do the entire screen. No, we just did one. All right, there you go. Awesome. Thank you. How did you end it? That's true. How many times is it going to do it? Close once. Look at the same thing. It was okay. It's an infinity. All right, y'all. Have fun. Um, anything we hope you need? We're outside. Thanks, John. Let's get started. Go down to her. Guess you're you're in charge. I'm in. Yeah. Field promotion. I like it. Meeting called to order, right? Oh, man. The meeting is called to order. uh we will have to uh just myself Mark Inhardt in attendance we have to skip approval of the minutes because we do not have a quorum to be able to vote on that and we will go to work completed and in progress. All right, so we're completed in progress. Just want to give a shout out to the teams, uh, especially William Tennant High School for all the things that they accomplish above and beyond what they have to do on a daily basis. It's crazy this time of year with fine arts fest and senior nights and uh, testing and track. They have a 15 team track meet the last week. Uh, we're Mr. Symphonies multiple times and uh, just so many things they're doing. um is uh outstanding and they just do it. They don't complain, they just do it. That's what's great about it. Um we got a new piece of equipment last year to take care of the fields and we've done some uh highlighting on the fields like the baseball field we did defense and the dugouts. And I just wanted to again put out there that all of our all of our fields are looking so much better every time we work on them. They're getting more refined, easier to play on, easier to keep up. So they're doing an outstanding job on that also. And I would like to just second what you said. Those guys work their tails off. It looks it looks great. Yeah, it's great having our own guys in house that obviously care about doing it right, you know, makes a difference. That's uh with work in progress right now. We kind of aren't doing anything major just because it's the time of year that it is. Yeah. And there's so many things going on. So, capital planning, we're still I'm still working with very to get uh some people out here to do a full look at those rooms this summer for hopes to do it last next summer. Okay. So, we'll have more detail on that coming. Any any um outside of the box funding sources, grants or things with Not that I know of yet, but a lot of that's on hold at the moment. Okay. you know, with everything that's going on. So, not that I am aware of, but I'll continue to look. Um, I've continued to refine the uh seven-year capital project that I'm working on. And as I've went through and got some roofing companies out here to look um some of the things we've nailed down that I've actually brought this down just over a million dollars over the seven years on a couple of the projects getting the numbers refined. So, like I said, the first snapshot was these are the things we need to really look at tackling and I'll continue to refine when we do them or when I think they should be completed and the amount that is going to cost. Yeah, I appreciate you going out seven years. That's a lot of work, but and I want to take it 10, but I'm really ref I'm really looking at the next four right now, you know, and then yeah, a couple of big important things the last couple years. It's important to align it to our fiveyear plan that we do every year, right? I think the alignment of the capital plans, the alignment of our long-term financial plan really go hand in hand. Mr. Gman, a couple years ago about um the uh you know the capital pro funding and capital projects, the capital fund is that I know where we are with the budget. That's that's still a very hard thing to look at, but is there a way that I'm sorry. Um you you know talked about trying to fund a capital project fund separate. But we have and we have and we're trying to continue to fund that but it's but it's tough. Does this help having that? We have right we have successfully funded majority of the money we put into the debt service fund right but as as the current budget includes a transfer of of funds from the debt service fund into the capital fund. Um I think at LA the current budget had that sort of running out of money u by um by the the fifth year 2029. Um it depends how we use it, right? If we use the debt service fund to to uh eliminate the deficit in our plan, uh that will go away quicker. Um, you know, when I came here, the capital fund had $300,000 in it, right? You couldn't you couldn't do anything with $300,000 air conditioning, right? So, it really creates a dangerous situation, right? We we did a refinancing for money uh to help that. The last two re the refinancing we did in the fall was actually to save the district and the residents money, right, by reducing our debt service. We have two more debt service opportunities. Again, that we're not taking money out, we're plowing money back in uh to reduce the overall uh general fund expense for debt service. So, right now, we we do have that debt service fund which has over $20 million in it uh that we can draw down on uh and move it to the capital fund to to make sure that we can continue to fund projects. But like last year's budget, the current year budget, right, that two and a half $2 million came from the debt service fund to to balance the balance the So where's the um so where's the line between you put stuff off, you know, in taking money from the debt service fun, we don't pay off the debt, continue to pay interest, but but if we don't do some of these things, stuff goes bad. We're paying more on an emergency basis, we're paying more down the road if we have to find it's a high rate. So, I'm sure there's a trade-off somewhere. The debt service acts more as your savings account. The debt service fund acts more as a savings account to be used, right? You can't necessarily buy down your debt, right? That that doesn't the debt is fixed. It'll eventually, you know, wind down. Um, but you you can you can use it. We are we are uh committing a piece of it to reducing the expense on our side uh by moving that from the debt service fund to the general fund uh to make a $500,000 reduction in our debt service which was talked about in as part of the plan last year. So we will continue to do that. U that's a small that's small peanuts if you will. the the trick is to make sure that we are or we find a way uh to get fiscally balanced, right? Structurally balanced uh our operating expenses aren't exceeding it, right? Because you and and schools schools don't, right? So schools will plow through it. Uh and and you know the logic in my mind is then you run out of money uh and and things become more drastic and not in the in the best interest of our students. Yeah. Like perfect example, log college parking lot. We do it this year. It doesn't take much milling but a surface mill to do that except for a couple areas. We let that go three more years. Yeah. you'll see that you're going to have you're going to have a 30 to 40% increase on your cost of what it does because you're going to have to do a subbase to mill all the way down dig do a subbase do you know do multiple layers instead of just one layer in part areas that but if it goes so many more years you're going to have a 30% increase on what it cost so that's what I'm saying it's not clear I'm not a money guy but clearly but um you know does it make more sense to take that money out of the debt service fund to save having to pay larger later, right? And we kind and we eat just eat the interest on the It's got to come from somewhere, right? We just eat the interest on the debt service, but at least getting things done that need to be done and we're not paying more later. You could sense what we what we are doing is we're sort of again identifying that that debt service or savings account, right? In in in school uh accounting, right? Once money goes into the capital fund, it can't come out, right? Um so that would certainly lock up that money. Leaving it in the debt service fund and transferring it as we go each year, right, allows us the utmost flexibility in terms of uh in terms of financially balancing various needs. Okay, then I guess I was just saying it wrong. So instead of transferring into the capital fund where it's locked in, using that debt service fund to pay for these on an as we go basis, right, it will move. Does that match? Yes, it will do that in a capital fund. And if you think about you average us out, it's it's not a huge sum of money in a grand scheme. It's one point. It's 1.3 million just over $1.3 million a year on average. So, if we were to transfer 1.3 each year and I only use a million of it, when I get out to go to do William Tennant High School's full roof, if we transition that $300,000 that left over each year down, we're not going. We have that $2.5 million in the account, then if we wait three years to try and do that, we don't have $2.5 million and we've got to find it. So that's kind of the concept of managing these outwork, but it's it's key to your I think your your true point, right? Is making sure we're committing an amount of money to capital and to our planning, right? And I think that is is very important. And you look at MBIT, right? MBIT didn't do any money in now we're now we're working hard to catch up, right? We had a meeting the other day at MBIT and we are 25 26 is the last of the uh sending school contributions to their capital repairs right collective we we have given them uh I think over $9 million over the past four years. um this current year represents the last. But in my, you know, in the discussion we had at NBIT, right, they want to make sure and they repeated it. They sort of had like a new slogan to their their spiel, right? And that we're the we're the fifth school in your lineup, right? Or we're the sixth school. I'm sure you don't forget, right? So, uh they have projects. Dr. Coll is trying to be very proactive. you are to avoid exactly that in the future because you said that was a problem and now they have to come to us and say we need a lot because a lot like so now they're trying to walk the line between being proactive too. Yeah. When the perse it's just tough. Yeah. And catch up is hard. Yeah. Yes, it is. And we don't have other schools to ask for. Right. Um this is the other one we're working on is bus replacement. Obviously, another one that we need to put a little money aside each year. And this this is ridiculous. This is because we're so far behind in that. We have 20 buses that are 18 20 buses that are over 15 to 18 years old where transport, you know, buses are, you know, so that's another one that Karen and I are working on and continue to work on. That we're going to have to balance that, right? I mean, I don't think we're going to be able to buy all of those buses each year, right? But, you know, right now we're buying four or five buses every year. Yeah. You know, the just in in sort of the approach, right? I think we've got to manage that like we do everything else. This is with co- stores, right? So, we're we're getting kind of the best price we can get anyway. But that's Yeah. Well, this is average of what we've paid for other buses that size lately, you know. So, this was a snapshot from Karen and Tim at the bus garage of what this is their wish list obviously. So, I'm still refining this with them and to come up with a number that would be feasible for us if it's $500,000 a year. I don't know what that is exactly, but in order to get some of these buses out of there, you know, you look at 2006. Are we allowed as we have to do co-stars and there's a lot of restrictions and all but I mean are we allowed to try to um we bid the buses tag along with with other dis other large districts that are buying huge amounts of buses and getting a volume discount and say can we get in there for 10 more and get your discount? Yeah. I don't know if that's a the way our bid system is allowed. Yeah know when I was with the fire department years ago we would do you want a new engine you'd look hey if it's New York buying 100 engines Yeah. make 101 and give us your discount. Yeah. You know, I don't know if we could do that. Um, we certainly do that already in in many areas, right? We do that with power utilities, right? We do that in in fuel purchases, right? That we through the IU and they they run the the piece, right? We do it in food service. uh in food service different schools own if you will different contracts but the the group of schools that come together share in that pricing. So that's that's we do that. This is anything new on capital updates from you. Uh no no so that's I mean that's the the current year plan right? We had planned to spend 2.9. We're at uh the next page, right? It shows you we're at 21. So, we've spent most of uh our capital as as budgeted for. Um we have $850,000 remaining. Um we had some contingency. We had some things that we didn't move forward on like Jim mentioned the FCS classrooms in the middle schools, right? So, we we expect and anticipate a little bit of a surplus there. Um, and as it shows up top there in that revenue line, right, the second line down shows that $2 million interfund transfer. Uh, and that's that money coming from the debt service account to fund the capital account. And this includes building capital, it includes buses, it includes uh any anything that you know uh large part in it uh projector replacements and so forth. This just looks at sort of the five-year plan um that we had as part of this this current school year's uh budget. And as you can see, as I mentioned, right in 29 um assuming transfers in at the top uh from debt service, this this capital fund would would run out of money. uh 2029, but we've been successful in managing year-over-year surpluses and things that are extraordinary, right? So, when we have extraordinary interest revenue, right? You can't run the B you can't run the building thinking that your interest revenue is always going to be $3 million, right? Or $3.2 million, right? Because four years ago it was $80,000, right? So, you've got to try to manage that. And that we've been able to do is take those surpluses and and keep them in our savings account, so to speak. And there it looks like those expenses are the ones that are right off of your fiveyear extension, right? Mr. This is before Jim's work got done. So there should be some crossover. This is the budget that you would have seen a year ago. Okay. Last year. So those numbers are going to change based on Jim's Jim's projection. Right. So I have I have a half a million dollars in buses, right? Jim has a million and a half dollars in there for budget. I don't think got a lot of talk. I want two million. Ask for more. You're right numbers. Why not? So next is obviously a section presented to the board. So there are multiple items. Uh this is going to be a retroactive request. It's something we do every year. just we just got it like last week from them as a request instead. So, um 185 bucks. It's nothing to support them. So, that's going to go forward as a retroactive. Um you talked about the planetarium. So, if you would like I know I guess I guess you had a nice preview from Mr. Gabriel, but some of your thunder go back to board docs and open uh that if you like click on that middle that tab can you open up right which one's that one the planetarium sheet yeah perfect um so this would be a multi-year project that would need both capital and general funds to support it. Um, but as we've said previously, you know, it's a space that's just sitting empty at this point. Um, so to the next page, right? I think that there's a lot of um for the community to be proud of in terms of its history with space with the stars. Um, and planetariums have gone way beyond that, too. So, the planetarium, if revamped, could offer us curriculums and sciences, in anatomy, um, in medicine, and then even just, um, kind of more fun events. March the Penguins can now be playing at the planetarium, things like that. Um, so we put together a multi-year plan here to think about the best way to kind of not hit us with a a giant expenditure all at once. Um, but basically because no one's touched the planetarium in about three or four years, pre-COVID really um we our technology there has disintegrated and it's no longer supported. It would be a danger to the network to kind of just reboot it and and get it up and running. It's running a Windows 7, so that's not great. Um, so that would be the automatic first thing we would need to do is update the computer server in there, get that up to kind of where we are in 2025. Um, and that would allow us to run the planetarium right off the bat in year one, just for our own students. Um, so just getting that computer already, we can see some sort of return on instructional investment with being able to bring our own classes in. The other kind of big elephant projector in the room is that we have one projector. Yeah. If you want to scroll down just a little bit there, Jim. So, as we look into year two, then um the current projector could work great, but it's not really built for that size planetarium and planetarium technology has just evolved to a place where they make different recommendations. And so, there is a recommendation for a dual projection system. Um that would be kind of the very big capital lift of what that arch needs to best support future programming. Um so we could think about that for year two. Um that would give us an actual functioning planetarium the way that planetarium is designed to function. So we're kind of bandating through year one just to get us up and running a little bit. But that's the actual work that needs to be done and in year one, right? I mean as as I discussed this with Anthony as well, right? I think that it's it's a build on, right? So, I think in and the the years aren't structured, right? So, year one could last two years, right? For sure. Uh as we get our hands around reintroducing the planetarium to to Warming Stern and to our students as well as possibly offering it to outside districts, right? Because it still will, you know, my mind the planetarium I grew up with was only a star showing, right? So, you left the stars, right? Oh my I I have a flashlight. This is Beetlejuice. This is the And you love I did. I love you. Got a classroom for the day. You get to see the stars. You know that that opportunity I think is they have integrated it with uh which is neat. Other aspects of curriculum, right? So Whiten wisdom has a science piece to it, right? that is is talking about English but in and writing but is um also talking about the stars and being able to interface those two things is is a really neat idea. So that first start I think is is the jump bed. Yeah. Right. We can talk about phase years as a phase. So I got a number of questions on this because um you know Anthony covered it pretty well yesterday but he was on the phone and it was difficult back and forth was very difficult. So um so start off by saying I love the idea. Okay. I mean I mean I the planetarium was super cool. I I I think it's great and um and I remember I remember from years ago I mean the planet was just fantastic. So, and it's a great draw for the for the district. It's great for the kids. The space isn't doing anything. I'm all for it. I love doing the space. Um, so the full upgrade, it wouldn't just be stars on the ceiling. It would be you could do shows, you could you do all you can all kinds of student facing educational stuff. Correct. Community events. So, once you get through kind of all of the phases, there's a package you can purchase. And so, I use March of the Penguins as an example. They do um Christmas movies there at the holiday times or Halloween movies. You could run a Saturday night under the at the planetary. So if districts came in, they would pay us so that we could get some kind of return on that. So So I know the questions that you're going to get that you know asked about this. Um like I said, I think it's a fantastic idea. Um but you know, we're looking at $45 million budget just to provide educa. You know, we can't even do special ed right now. that's eating up so much of it and things like that. You know, these are big numbers when we have a huge hole. So, um so the $86,000 we if we did that and just nothing else for a little while, then that can be looked at as an $86,000 investment directly student facing for our students. Correct. And and we could just let it sit if it took years. We could just use it like that. Correct. Until the projector died. There is a projector. Right. So right years ago whenever we had the na the the landing of the Apollo uh thing here, right? We had a big to-do here in Warster and the the fuge was all lit up and you'd go sit in the centuge cart and you my brought my wife along and we went to the planetarium. Um and and it was it was remarkably better than the planetarium I I knew of. Right. So I I think that that it's really a phase, right? So I'm looking at this, but to be clear, so yes, we could do an initial expenditure of 86, you know, 86k there to get it up and running. Then as long as you wanted to, you would have a small general fund expenditure every year to keep the software current and that's built into there 6,000 6,000 6,000. So I I want to make sure that it's not just a third person to run, right? But I look at this as, you know, we're, you know, we're we're just only um to spend a whole bunch of money on open s that was a large amount of money. So So it's a large amount of money that went towards bringing science to kids. This is just another version of doing that. So I'm so I look at the expense that way. Um you know, the 86 and the 7500 a year. Yeah. Um look, you know, that's just another expense to bring really cool education to kids. So I'm okay with with doing that kind of thing and looking at it now and I think um you know the board could look at it in that way and say you know it's it's a very unique way for us to bring a cool educational thing to kids for that amount of money. It's not a huge amount of money. So if we could if we you know if we had the option of just leaving it that for a couple years until we more financially solve it and we could and then there's larger numbers are if we get to the point where we realize once it's in place people know it's here they've seen it and we get the feeling like hey we would love it if you guys made this thing state we bring a lot of people in and we start looking at okay now maybe we can bring some money into now we look at doing the upgraded thing. Yeah. Um, so we don't have to we we're not locked in we have to spend 300 grand after we spend the 86. We can do the 86 and it's just like buying a bunch of textbooks or a science program for our kids. It's just another expense towards educating our kids. We could leave it at that and then the yearly cost. So there's that. Yes, we could do approval year by year by year. So we're not spending the 86. Now we have to spend 300 down the road. Correct. Now if we commit to everything at once, we get these prices guaranteed obviously, right? And down road prices. You have to I mean to Tim Jim's point nothing ever gets cheaper. So I'm like this is obviously you know best price. I mean I mean so I like it as being a start and I and I like what we'll bring to the kids and I think you know um getting the excitement going for having a working planetarium again is cool. Um but um but you know but I mean it's still it's not huge but it's it's a good amount of money and and we're going to be asked we're at a $4 million hole and you know you know it hasn't worked for a couple years. So, um, so my question is going on to know what we're going to get and what you guys are going to get is sat there not used for like three to five years. I mean, it's a waste of the space, but it's not actually costing us anything. We're not we're not putting money into it to have it sit there and do nothing. So, why can't we wait another year or two, get out of this hole, maybe find some other funny uh Mr. Gabriel had mentioned there's grants from NASA. So, I mean, I think it makes sense. As much as I would love to just jump in and do this, why don't we look for grant funding? We can cover the initial opening by grants or cover a good part of it by grants. And and then it's it's a much easier cell to say, "Yeah, it's 86 grand, but maybe we got 60 grand in grants. It's costing taxpayers 20 20,000. We have a planetarium." And then we can, you know, and then we can sell that. And then we can look for other community investment, business partners, more grants to get closer to 300, more commitments to people saying, "Yeah, I want to do this. We're willing to pay for it." Now, we have a much um better financial base to get it going. Um so that's I know that's that's the way it's going to be approached. And it's not that I don't it's not that I don't want it done. And if we had 86 grand sitting around that, you know, we were a balanced budget, I 100% on starter then you take something off my plate then we don't look for grants but if it's going to be a starter if we find the grants that's a good directive so I think that's a discussion to have maybe at the meeting that be that can be brought up in that way and I think I think it's going to be asked um uh you know and and I know it's as much as it's not we don't want to do it but bring it off for a year or two um you know 86 80 90 grand a couple years down the road to get it going if we find grants and it's matched if we if we get that asset grand or whatever and and we get that money even if it goes up a couple of grand if we're getting the the grant then that offsets whatever a little bit extra and and our net out of pocket is still less. Yeah. It's just I can see as much as it's cool and I love it. It's going to be a hard sell saying we haven't used it in five years. It's not costing us a dime to sit there and now we we're $5 million in the whole. We're struggling to to fund special ed and now we want to put 90 grand into a system that we haven't used and it's cool but it's not essential and and and it's going to make us now want to spend another 300 grand down the road because people are going to look at that number y and we're still $4 million. So maybe if we approach it from that way maybe maybe just extend the time frame one a little bit. Um, I I I mean it's up for the full board to decide and it's up for the community to decide, but I think when we're at, you know, to to say we want to spend 90 grand to get something working that hasn't worked in five years and kids are still learning. Oh, and by the way, we're going to raise your taxes because $5 million. I don't have an answer for that. I mean, and just for not that I don't love it and I want to do it, but I just don't have an answer. Um, and those are all great points I was going to write. They're they're very logical and and and very sound. Uh, but the the 86, right, as as shown, right, really comes out of the capital fund. So, it does come it is in some ways similar to maintenance capital, right? So, but that capital fund paid for those enormous repairs. So that's 86 grand that's not going to it is it is 86 grand I understand it's not in the capital fund right so it's not in the general fund right big capital means that's 86 grand was to fix facilities sure and and in some way right that's what happened to our the pools at the middle school right so we had pools at the middle school until we stopped replacing them until we stopped investing in in that maintenance capital right and then they fell apart Maybe we just have what's that? The pools require maintenance, but but the structure would require maintenance, right? It would require maintenance. What's that? In what way? The pool the pool piece would get the technology requires maintenance. But the pool requires maintenance because it's a pool. It holds water. It has filtration systems that has or or they rot your bed. All this is is just computers not being used. So it's not space not being like the pool I mean the pool space is not right so that's an anchor to to an extent but but the thing right what I'm getting at is if so if you don't maintain the pool the pool falls into disrepair now it's an unusable space because it's been deteriorated been destroyed now you either have to spend a ton of money to fix all the decay and get the pool running or you have an unused space or you have to spend a ton of money to convert convert it to something else. Correct. In opposition to that, the planetarium is nothing's going to go bad if we don't use it. It's just going to sit there. So, it's not going to deteriorate. We're not going to have to this. I mean, this is its point of decay. Right. Right. So, right. So, and this is a technology decay. It's not physical decay. So, so my point is unlike the pool that deteriorates into something that is broken and has to be fixed. this cons not that I want it to happen but as an as an example for the next 10 years and not cost us a dime and and all we're going to do in 10 years is the same as we would do right now is just buy new software and get it going. So it's not costing us to maybe wait to try to get grants. It's it's just it's the missed opportunity for education which is I I get as a problem but we're having a hard time doing basic education and keeping our stuff running and it's I mean it's just going to be a hard sell even coming out of capital funds to say that's 90 grand we're not we're not going to buy an air conditioning unit with or 90 grand turns a bus or you know something like that. I mean, I I great I love the idea to do it. And if we could get some grants and community involvement and even get as close, I'd be I'd be over the top of, hey, we have to put in 20 grand. We got 60 from from grants and community and we got to pay 20. That's a no-brainer. But I just know that's where it's going to go. Sure. And I just I don't I don't want to do it. I would love to do it. If we could find a way to make it happen and not have a $5 million budget and have holes we can't fill, I I'm 100% for it. But I know that's where it's going to go. I I mean I mean I but I think it's worth a discussion and absolutely moving forward and it's worth a discussion at the meeting if you know whoever handles that you or Anthony could speak to that and you know especially if if we if we push hard on we're going to we're going to get grants maybe we defer for six seven months and see where the grant process goes and if we're looking towards we we're getting grants then we do it. But I I think we I think we have to make the point that we understand it's important and it's cool but not at the expense of basic education of building maintenance and we're actively looking for ways to make this happen that are going to make sense and aren't going to kill the taxpayers and and you know to get something going that's not been going and we've been doing okay without it. Yeah. I hate the poop on the parade because I love it. No, it's not a poop on my brain. I love this idea, but I just if we weren't where we are, it's it's just going to be such a hard sell. Sure. You know, I I'd rather have the honest conversation my sales and then put me up for failure. I want to find a way to make this happen 100%. I would love to, but we got to just find a way it's going to make sense. Yeah, you know, for sure. See, you're up again. So, another chance. Yeah. Um, this is about So, as we were looking for ways to actively reduce our budget, we are up with our Verizon contract with cell phone. I'm solid saving. Yeah, T-Mobile takes us down about 1,300 bucks a month for our cell phone lines. I write that down. Okay, I'm good. Perfect. How do you not want to save your breath? How you see T-Mobile, right? Nothing's going to change. The service is going to be great. We're saving 1,300 bucks a month. Or how do you not want to do that? Yeah, it's a nobrainer. Sorry, I thought I would do that because of the plan. Maybe I should have done reverse. No, I'm just kidding. No. Good. That's it for me, Jim. Awesome. The next one's an agreement for that's again parks and recreation to use the pool. They use it every year. Every year it's reduction in, you know, a 35% reduction based on who they're bringing and it's pretty straightforward as per our policy. Yep. Right. Yeah. I'd like to be able to reduce more and help my neighbor out, but you know, it is what it is. But no problem with that. It's interesting. We we gave the the symphony, right? Went from paying to use our facility to being it's now free. Yeah. And they've added like three shows. So they now cost even more. How about that? That should be once. Yeah. Once they found out it was free, they added three more shows. That's right. We should look at that. Yeah. Well, we should one free show and then if we should look look at redressing that. I I it will come back around. It'll come back next year as well. So next fall. It'll come around in fall. do them for free. I'm just keep the same. All right. Or if you want to do three, you pay for the other two. Or we say we get Thanks for these. We'll pay for the Yeah, I did not did not know that. Three for the three for the price of two or we did touch a truck. Um last one is our paving project. Yep. Talked about it before. It's got to get done. This is one of those that the front part of that and the bus side is just holes opened up all year long. Got to get that. So the biggest question is is there's the base bid and the alternate and I recommend we do both because of the condition, but the biggest one that needs to be done is log college. Um, so where where are we with um tenant as far as the extra cost we're going to recur for for waiting? I know that's kind of bad, but it's not as bad as it doesn't have great big pots everywhere, but it's probably not too far from it. You know, I mean, if we get one more like we have Yeah. Could that get a cheaper band-aid like like the tennis courts and buy us a little bit of time or I mean, I want to be pennywise pound foolish. So, you know, that doesn't make sense either. This one's definitely is white. This might last another year or so, but it's not gonna get better. That's the That's the teacher lot. That's the lot in the back and and also used as the stadium. So, not to speak for Mrs. Branado, but if Mrs. Branado was here, I I think she would push to do both. um you know when at the meeting when it goes in front of the board we can you know we'll vote on it accordingly. and and right we had we had assumed about a half a million dollars in capital uh to do paving each of these years right to get to have college and that teacher lot done the teacher lot uh as we said is also the stadium lot right and so having the potholes and the work so it gets a lot of nighttime use it gets a lot of people use uh and I think that was what Mrs. drink. One of the reasons a little cheaper, too, is because when we worked with when Barry Isaac originally did it, they looked at these different techniques of they thought would be cheaper when they put their initial proposal together. And then when we got the contractors out there, we value engineered it. We're like, why would we do part of it mill and then not mill another part and put this wear material on it? And and it was mainly in the bus loop. And I looked at the guy, I said, "How long is that going to that might hold up for cars, but how long that material?" It was more expensive material. How long is that going to last up with bus doing turns on it all day? And he's like, the guys that do it are like, "It's not going to." They said, "We mill the whole thing down and put normal asphalt down that we normally do, it's actually cheaper. It's it's better and it's cheaper." So, we got to these numbers because of that, talking about it and coming up with alternate ways. And that's one of the things I try and do is come up with alternative ways to do things that work as well. And you came to each other on lines and didn't want to buy a backup. Um so yeah. Um I would like to do them both. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you know your business and I I don't want to not do it and then I think that if it was a different lot I think you'd have more Yeah. maybe not use it as much is used by the public. We can't even we can't even shift things. It's getting to a point where it's wearing down. It hasn't it hasn't went through the top layer, but it's crumbled enough that you can't see the white lines very much because they're kind of marly. I mean, it's coming apart. So, one one more winter like we had, that thing's gone. It hasn't opened up, but it's it will. Yeah. Yeah. Proactive is cheaper in the long run. It's just a little more now, but it's cheaper in the long run. And that is it for projects. Here's what we we only got two bids back just so you have that in there. I wanted to show you that. But look at the difference in the two. And these are this is the same company. He did clinger and it's fabulous. Yeah. And he came in on on you know his costs were right. He didn't there's no extra costs. He he did it correctly. It's not like he came in lower and then had to add to it because he didn't correctly, you know, and that's one of the things you worry about, but that's that's there. And then any questions? No. Awesome. Well, thank you very much. So, we don't really have any actionable items uh because of only one. So, we appreciate you being here. We're excited to give our Kristen isn't happy. I'm reading the cell phones, too. I think I