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All right. So, we're going to do roll call. Roll call. Flaming Godson here or Ken Hart here and anticipating Dr. Maguire. All right. Number three is approval of minutes 3.1. So move second. I I those passes passing through nothing. Uh and approve of the agenda. Move it. I second. Yes. And passing to do nothing. Then we have with uh Mr. Gabriel 5.1 upcoming board meetings and topics. Just like in past meetings, uh we will just be bringing a slew of renewals. [Music] So Dr. Yeah, Magguire's on her way in. Let her know we're here. Oh, yeah. You know, so then moving on to 5.2 comprehensive plan. There is a one pager that just has a and upcoming taken game in order to get the plans process up and running. And you have already have the survey up, right? The survey is currently open and will close on Monday the 19th. Okay. But we'll share with the board after that the results. We'll get the committee together probably in June and then move forward from there. Okay. Are we doing this through the IU again as we did last time? Yes. I've been working with Chad Evans to sync up his schedule and hours. Okay. My hope is to get a communication out on Friday to everybody on the committee with uh some upcoming dates. Okay. Any questions? It's very long. All right. Anything else from you on the comprehensive plan? Or can we move on to 5.3 refresh options? So we have been um as you all know the the Betty planarium has been closed so to speak since co we have been exploring ways to help to get this rejuvenated are there any ways of finding corporates funding sponsorships that would help you know some of these expenses down the line because I thought it was a pretty sizeable amount, you know, in 26 27 in our plan. Yes. In our plan, um is all we're asking for for year one is uh a capital fund approval of the 86,000 approval. But once we start, you know, obviously we're committed to the whole thing down the road. So, is there any way to make our money back on that in any way? Yeah. So, if you look through the plan over the next couple years and if you look in the notes, the plan is made with TEF as well as the alumni association to start talking about fundraising potential outreach to donors. And then we missed the window this year, but there are NASA grants or things like this. So we would look to start to explore those as well. To your point, Modard, yes, our hope is to as we start to build this out, we can start to charge other districts for field trips as well as the community for events outside the school. D. Could this be made available to other school districts or is it just Yes. Okay. Yes. No. And we already mentioned it at county IU meetings and people are excited. I I was just going to ask you because we had FAB, you know, lab, you know, from the IU right here in Warinster and if there was a way of maybe tying those two things together up. So, I I absolutely love the idea of the planetarium. They're so cool. It's a great thing to do. Um, but because it's a very significant amount of money and it's been, you know, a couple years that it's not been used, I think it just makes sense to fully investigate all the different grants funding sources first and see where we stand before we make any sort of financial commitment, right? Because once we make the once we make, you know, the 862, we're we're in for the 300 or more because you don't spend that keep going. So, I would like to see us get get a solid answer on funding first. That won't happen for another year. So, then this will this is a $1.5 million um asset that's not being used, right? But it's not it's not cautious money into what we can do with the 86 is start by at least offering internal use with older software in terms of projectors, re-evaluating the spring and make decision to see if we want to go bigger and what to then charge up and year. Yeah. Anthony, can I just clarify something? Hi John. Uh just for our own clear the 86250 is what we need to get this operational if only for use for our students. Correct. Correct. Right now it's not I just wanted to clarify Mr. Ghart because it was a good question. It is sitting empty. We're not using astronomy classes internal field trips anything. So what my question is is if the 862 gets it up and running for us internally, what's the difference? Why all the extra money for out for for outside vehicle? You're working is working, right? I mean, if we get it working, it's working, right? Anthony, you want to address that? I couldn't hear. So yeah, my question is if we spend the 86 and get it up and running and it's working for our students internally, working is working, right? So why do we need to spend the extra money to have outside agencies use it if if that upgrade gets it working and it's working? No, we don't. Right. So So we don't have to go beyond just our own students, right? That's an option. So I think the ash is only the if you look the cover sheet in in the approval section of this is only asking to approve year one of this plan. That's it. Got it up and running with our capital funds. $7,000 on some software and we'll stop there and then we can evaluate in spring. Give us a year to look for grant opportunities, look for sponsorships, talk with CE, talk with the alumni association, work with our community partners, and then scope out a business plan which is in the works already. We have some high school kids working with Dr. count on that to see if we can raise the money to do the 300,000 for the tool projectors and then that would be a second approval in another year to say hey we have found all this funding right we found all these sponsorships we do think we can make money off of this and make it you know available to local schools in Baltimore County that want to do field trips which we can charge them for as well as run community events, community movies, birthdays, things of that nature all which come an expense obviously that we would make money back. So the approval right now just for clarity that I think to Joe's point is it's just for year one which is spend the 86 out of capital spend the $7,000 out of teaching and learning let's get it up and running for internal use for our courses at the high school for our middle school courses our elementary schools. Um if that's as far as we get uh over the next few years then that's as far as we get. Um but the goal would then be giving us we have to we would have to place the order now to get the summer going to get the technology in and installed. That would then give us a year Mr. Dinard to your point to explore grants other funding sources before we even commit to years two and beyond. Okay. So I just so I just want to be clear so I it's clear in my head. Um, so the 86 will get it up and running and if we don't find other funding sources short of equipment breakdown or something like that, we can pretty much stop at the 86 and and we'll have it in perpetuity in house unless we need to fix something. But other than that, until the at some point, right, at some point we just don't know when that is, right? And that's like with anything else, it just ages out. That will get us up and running. And we can stop there till we find. Yeah, we talked about this, right? We talked about this Anthony kind of being in two phases just very very frankly because it sat dormant to get it up and running for internal use at the high school for electives internal field trips which does save us money on the back end immediately so we're not sending buses and field trip costs outside the district. The second shoe to drop on that Mr. again are and I'll say this just I this could be a cash cow for the district because then when you be get partnerships and grants you make it external facing and open to the public other school districts we've had outreach Anthony knows this this goes back pre- pandemic but we had districts like Penridge reaching out to OTL because they don't want to shle kids down in Philadelphia from Quakertown and Percoy they could rather just stay in county and use planetarium so we have that need, that interest is out there. There's a the planetarium. It was we're we're one of only four high schools in the state that have a planetarium. There's only four. See, I've never seen it. So, before the pandemic, it was open and you had people coming in and out. I don't. It was dedicated, you know, several years ago, you know, and renamed the Betty Off planetarium. Yes. uh and she was very instrumental you know back in the time you know it was used Dr. McGuire mainly internally only right and very and I I I'll say this with judgment only in my time here very sporadically very sporadically um it was there was never a grander strategy or plan for phase two and three here to say we need to open this up we need to partner with the fab lab to just move down the road from the IU we've got NASA to partner with we we're the hub here of NASA yeah we got the future fuge right here I mean there's so from putting my teacher hat on. A school can come here and spend a day between the fuge going to the Fab Lab and our planetarium. You could rotate kids around and that's revenue for the district that's just waiting to be had in that space. So, and and and on top of that, I mean, I just know that the IU were given a $450,000 grant, you know, with corporate sponsorship. So, and Anony's already had the IU. He's already done outreach with the I and the Fuge has donated money before to us and yeah, we could work in correct. So, so again my question, so my question is if we spend the 86 and it and it we get it up and running for internal use, what's the difference between internal use and letting outside people come in? Because once it's running, it's running. So if if it works for our people, why why can't we use the the 86,000 and have other people come outside agencies come in without spending the extra money? Great question, right? Uh, working is working, but I think, and Anthony will correct me if I'm wrong, this is like an automobile that's been sitting in the barn for a couple years, and we just have to get it up and running. You can see even in stage two, there's a we have to update the software package. We only have like four shows, Mr. G. Okay. Only four programs that we have going to the before times. Even if we kept it internal, we have new curriculum. Uh, we have new electives. We'd want to buy new programs, software to upgrade it even. Okay. If we use it internally. So the 86 gets it physically working but then but then we have to look at getting up to date with current issu. Am I explaining that right? Is that is that what it is? You are you are Mr. Ro is both the the quality of the program. So like the the the catalog so to speak doesn't exist right now beyond just a handful of stuff. But then also the quality of the picture, right? So we're going to be running a brand new software. You know, it's like putting a brand new engine in an ID50 sh and it'll get the job done, but is it really gonna are we going to be able to say to somebody, "Hey, we're going to charge you to bring your kids here, but look at the fuzzy green." Okay. Okay. I think if we choose to expand beyond, you know, again, I think giving us a year internal only, right? If we we can get it to the steel standards and we can you know the high school talked about elective in that would run out of there every day you know as class um if we can connect in with all the new curriculums as Mr. Ross mentioned there's a lot of alignment between written wisdom and social English curriculums and you know and the science curriculum we're moving towards with this that we think we'll get robust. Okay. So it's we can work out the process and get the kids over what's the transition look like then spend the year looking for partnerships for grants. You know I said NASA has a series of grants that I just learned about. So that would be something we'd start to explore this summer in the next year to see what we could get. You know, I know the local um you know state recruit thing, you mentioned the fuge, right? Like there are opportunities out there. We just haven't really gone to so it's good enough and the board's approval to at least take the first step. So it'll get us operating enough is then starting to do all the outreach for funding. So get us operating at basically almost like a subpart suboptimal level but good enough for internal but not quite good enough to get outside. Right now I have because they're not getting their money. Right. We have a third grade unit. Okay. Right. On oceanography. I can't bring the third grade over right now to show them a program because it's not running and I don't have a program to project on oceanography. I've got US history at the middle school in eighth grade. They're chomping at the bit to come over planetarium and watch a US history program for 40 minutes and do some breakout groups and some work over there. It's cross cross subject areas but we can't even do any of that internally. Astronomy stuff we can do. Oh projection. Oh history. How many people can that or kids or whatever can it hold? Anthony we're at about 66 now but we would look to expand that. Correct. So the the guy came out the other week. We had the the company that put this together for us years ago came out and did an assessment. So we currently have I think it's right about 66 seats currently, but he believes that we'd have to double check with the fire marshal and get it to come back down actually fully measure. He believes there's room for a good number of seats more. Uh and the idea too is I think Mr. kind of alluded to this is identifying a classroom in the high school um that would be a flexible space that when groups came over, we could have kids do some hands-on work in a classroom and kind of move back and forth between both the planetarium for the show and then do some either pre-learning or followup learning in a classroom over there in a space that's flexibly available. So they could do some hands-on theme related building and then go in and watch a film on that same topic. But if an outside group, thank you, comes in, they're not going to be here as long as our own kids would be. Correct. Okay. So, and then you have to get the insurance and all this. Yes. Yep. Okay. So, do you do you other question related to that is taking the 86,000? Is that going to impact anything else? Because we're in budget season. Sorry, that the capital fund conversation. And so it'll just depend on what other projects we have in the plan. What are anything else that's critical that we need that we have to spend money on? We'll have to talk to Mr. W. I know we're coming up on you know there's roasted HVAC's there's things that we're trying to build the capital fund for. I mean this thing is super cool though and just the the PR and the outreach and you just Yeah. It's a gem to have. It It is. Yeah, it's a good It's a good word for it. And I think Yeah. I mean, if I mean 86 is a big number, but it's not like it's not outrageous. And if it gets it so we can at least our technology world, that's a small number for Yeah. Yeah. get reevaluated in next year. And if we don't find the funding, we can make do with that 86. Just keep going in the house until we figure out a way. So we're not so we're not absolutely locked into those better numbers. No, we can just keep going in house until we find as as Mr. Gabriel said, we we have to take the baby step of year one, right? To even consider that then we take a pause and now we can consider expanding out any other phases and you're hearing interest in it because people remember it. I think for what it it's going to give our kids 86 is a small number. We got to start and see what see how they like it. Especially if it aligns with some the curriculum and everything. It just that's not a huge number. I can say that if we all power people that pay taxes, but um but it's something that it's it sounds cool. And um I think there is there's a lot of people I'm sure they could get um grants and then you're going to get your money back, I believe, if there's something to be said for looking for grants and help, you know, updates. and so forth. Okay. So, so what kind of questions do you think at a board meeting would somebody be asking besides the ones that we were asking? What do you think? The ones that you will see questions from is the same lynch because he has a history with this. Yes. No. No. I think she would be very much in favor because he has a long history with baby. So, okay. Yeah. It's just, you know, where are we going to find the money? But it's it's really student facing and student improvement. So, I think that's a pretty easy sell because it's not endless. I mean, I think Have you talked to the fuge yet? Um, Anthony, I don't know if we talked to the Fuge yet. Um, we have not taken any steps. We wanted to get have this conversation first and get approval from the board that we were okay to at least start with your one before we spend any time on this. if it makes it through next on the 27th that hey know we're good that we're good to start with at least year one and a lot of next year will be outreach with everybody we don't want to put any time we weren't ready yet to go ahead let's speak to process okay thank you thank you all right moving on to 54 where everyone belongs I don't know if Mr. Wilson is there or not? Yeah. So, thanks a lot. Um, taking a look at the agenda, we had um the everyone belongs, right? And uh and the perfect segue as Anthony wrapped up when we're talking about approval for year one is uh I'm really excited about what was presented uh uh to us to administration by um Mr. Goldberg and Mr. change the every day belong everyone belongs another word for is the sixth grade ambassador program so I've asked uh Mr. Golder uh to come today to the education committee. Go ahead and speak to it. Um you've also received the supporting documents and impact statement. That's a lot of the drill down stuff um in terms of the ambassador program. Hey, can you guys hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, uh that's a lot of the drill down stuff. So, if you have a copy of that, you can go ahead and read that at your leisure as well. Um but I really wanted uh approval for year one to hear from Mr. Goldenberg is representing both middle schools because I think this is a worthwhile um uh initiative uh for our rising students to middle school capture them early and support them all the way through and um at and minimal cost quite honestly for the impact that we're going to get from having such a program. So Mr. Golder um if you would mind if you would just go ahead and jump into speaking to um the actual program itself and then we can uh you know jump back and forth there. Sure. I'll keep it simple. So, uh, every year we have new sixth graders that come into the building. It's a it's a big deal for them. They go from, you know, you're going to experience this a couple times as a student from being the oldest, the biggest to suddenly the youngest, and smallest in this new place, uh, which is middle school where they're changing classes every day and and they're seeing a lot of new faces. They're mixing in with another school. Uh, so one of the things that we wanted to do was make those students feel more welcome upon arriving. So, we do some things already. We have some tours that we do uh that where they can come in with their families. Uh the building's open at various times, you know, during the school year and over the summer. Uh but what we wanted to try to do was to a build some capacity with our seventh going into eighth graders. So, our rising eighth graders where essentially they could be think of them as like camp counselors or leaders. Uh and what the program breaks down into is is really two things. The first part of this is that we get our soontobe sixth graders to come in one day over the summer. And then prior to that, we train our current seventh, soon to be eighth graders in how to run some of these activities. You can see up here, some ice breakers, uh like a buddy system. And and basically what they would do is run like a half day with the students where they have the chance to come in our buildings over the summer to have our eighth graders work with them and and basically have like a half day where they get introduced to the school by some of our current students. So it teaches them to be leaders. It teaches our fifth graders to get to know the building a little bit to get to know one another a little bit. So then when they come to school a week later, they've met some people, they've met some of the teachers, they're going to be that are going to be working with our eighth graders, and they know some of the eighth graders that are in the building. So it's really nothing more than an orientation, which then kind of lends itself to some future help during the school year. Uh, and for you guys, really, the only thing that we need as far as um a commitment is just to get us transportation for the day. So is this is this a program that we're buying? No, it's not. Okay. something you just named and wanted to No, it's it's something that that does exist that uh we had a teacher that had come into Clinger that that talked about it with Mr. Hayes. Mr. Hayes sold me on the idea. It's it's an easy sell. Uh it's good for our kids. It's it's minimal cost. Like I said, it's transportation is really uh the big request. You're talking about doing this over the summer, correct? You know, so how are you going to get about a week before school transportation to work? That's it. That's the big ask. So yeah, I looked this up and I I saw a lot of lot of different districts that that do this and they're all loving it. Like it's great. The kids love it. It's a great like like you said coming into the new school. It's a great transition. It's a great program. So just you know the way that something like this would work beyond this is we would you know inform our our elementary schools about it. They know about it a little bit already but not too many details because we have to get it approved first. uh just work on coordinating, you know, getting the word out to our fifth grade students and parents and then setting up a schedule to be able to get them into the building and then from there, you know, we would have our own training going on with our own students. Uh and then we would have that day in the building. Well, you had need to have um pay for this building being open and faculty. Well, the building would be open already. We're always open by that time and the cleaning is already done by that by the date that we have projected. We're looking at the date to be August 21st tentatively. The training dates for our current seventh soon to be eighth graders. I'm just going to say rising eighth graders from now. The training for our rising eighth graders would be on August 19th and 20th. They would come in for like two half days and we would have we have two teachers at each building that would be the people on site that would be assisting in addition to myself and uh and my assistant principal and the same thing over at Cleaner. So the idea is to bring eighth graders in and sixth graders, you know, new sixth graders, correct? You know. Yeah. The idea would be, let's just say a ballpark anywhere from like 25 to 40 eighth graders as the trainers and as the counselors, we'll call them and then however many fifth graders that we get. So we don't know what that number will be yet because we've never done this before. So this will be the first time putting it out there. I'm imagining we'd probably get pretty good numbers. I would say I' I'd expect at least half the kids to come, but I don't know that one. Will there be a registration system or how are you anticipating finding that's and that's the next part is us just kind of organizing that? Um I lost my train of thought. No, it's delayed. I'm like, okay. So, we're not we're not buying a program. We're doing it in house. Correct. And pretty much the costs are for teachers and transportation, more or less. Yeah. And because two per bill there's a lunch bunch meeting in there as well, but that's what I'm sorry I didn't hear you. The lunch bunch meeting is not something that would require funding though. That's just uh there there is a lunch with this. But our plan as of right now is reaching out to our student council uh to cover that because they had money from fundraising. Come out of cafeteria funds or can we not do that? you guys support right now that cost but they have to come in and get their computers right or they don't think no but I'm just saying that kids have to come in anyway that that week pick up computers so they would they think about maybe staying and that might um or go sign up for this or I I don't have any information about like the computer delivery for next year So, okay. I I didn't tie that into this at all. And this is only sixth grade, too. So, seems like the the investment would be minimal for it to be a fantastic program. Try and find out, right? So, it's a team building, leadership, correct program. Yeah. And and you know, and just to just to add one more piece on here, about five years ago, I reached out to maybe it was less than that, maybe it was like three or four years ago, I reached out to Rachel Holler at the uh the Bucks County IU. And uh at LO College at least, what we were finding was that our sixth graders traditionally were the the group that scored the lowest um based on what their expectations were on their PSSAs. So we reached out to the IU and asked about that. What they found was a direct correlation to whatever school a student started their first year at middle school. So in districts where they start seventh grade, seventh grade was their drop. Where they started sixth grade, sixth grade was their drop. And and you know, part of what we saw with some of our survey data, too, is that uh our students coming in that it's a it's a new experience for them. It's like a a frightening and and big experience coming into a new school building. So, we were trying to find ways to make them for feel more comfortable and settled in quicker. And, you know, I'll give Mr. Hayes credit on this one. This was this was his idea, and I I'm 100% on board with I think it's a really good idea. Middle school's the worst. you related that to some of the data collection national talking about we see county state and national so we don't know the how much right now so it's again it's for us I mean I I I honestly think that we the only thing that we would have to get you know uh assistance with would be transportation you are you using counselors or are you using teachers teachers it's teachers we do However, we have programs within our buildings that that uh that those are functions that can fall within the um the clubs that they already run. So, I'm thinking of just one bus each. But now, but no, because of the community. It depends how many students, right? Right. You know, if we only have like 40 kids that sign up, we could probably get around with one bus. Oh, you want to do transportation drop off? I'd love to do both, but it's if we're going to try to be equitable and make sure everybody can do it, we want to have that. Yeah. As an option. Would this be like pay with co-curriculars then since it's club stuff or it it it could be that's you know for just right now Mr. Hayes has a club called builder's club and I have a club called kindness club. Okay. And they they kind of both perform these functions and uh we can build them into their job descriptions for those clubs. Uh and they could do it through that. possibility. I currently like the standalone uh separate from the attaching it to cocurricular because that's stuff that's you know we would have to change up some things and we're currently in talks anyway with uh CA regarding uh the work that we have assigned to co-curriculars. um keeping it clean and keeping it separated uh with minimal cost to the district kind of keeps this thing, you know, uh clean and away from any back and forth that we would need to do going back into um already approved uh uh the agreement that we already have with right now around cos and once again minimal cost. So what we've asked for at this time is uh because there's some talk that still need to happen around transportation as soon as they get a sense like we know our cost of what it costs Karen in order to operate a bus. Um but we do that by students not until we put this out there and get the number of students who are um are interested can they go ahead and calculate that number. This phase it's conceptually really seeking approval that they can move forward. Well, you tell that I've done this before as a middle school principal myself in a far more ambitious way. I like this version of it though. Um when when I did it um in a different district, we packed all the kids up and we took them up to the Poconos for this leadership type building thing and it cost us a ton, right? So overnight in the whole deal were the same outcomes. I like this in a more localized way, limited expense. I think both uh Margie Hayes and Mr. um and yourself did a good job with this and uh so that's that's our ask as far as this moving forward. Okay. And you'll do a survey with the kids and see you know if it's doable for the following year as well like yeah like we've already reached out to our our uh rising eighth graders and we have students interested to come and do it over the summer and the fifth graders are coming now to visit the schools, right? Aren't they? They've already they've already visited us. Okay. I'm going to talk about it. What was your thing? I'm I'm concerned about the title only because it might well that it is a program. So I know I know I'm just thinking about the backlash. Not me personally, but you never it's it's a thought. Um but um I'm I think it sounds great um of the program and u what do you guys think? I'm I'm okay with it. Um the only thing that I could see, you know, would be to establish some sort of fee with it so that we could bring that cost down, you know, and not cost a dis anything. That might see because it's a club thing. I understand. But then you might not, you can know to make we already done. But it's a free and open, you know, it's not a mandatory thing. It's not mandatory. But somebody might not the opportunity to take the money. You could still do it like you know with scholarship money or you know in kind support from where to move this forward if I'm hearing agreement uh for approval to the body. I am in favor of it, you know, either way, but I'm just you looking to see is there a way of finding, you know, a way to cut the cost down after the survey stuff and uh in terms of getting the uh total students interest uh we can certainly drill that more. Hey uh Pat, if we make the assumption on 100% participation, we never get 100% participation. we can crunch out uh that transportation cost times all of the rides even though we know we won't get that and then uh share that number when it goes up. Um with the caveat that you know this is the worst case scenario. Um however you know we never get 100%. That make sense? It does. I I I do I will say I think that a lot of people will drop their kids off. like I I think so too, but we're probably going to need at least at least a bus for each school and and we can factor in the cost of drop off and everything else that transportation cost will be a lot a lot less than and we talk about half a day or not. So it would be for the for the eighth graders when they come in that would be they'd be coming in three times. They would be they'd have to get there on their own. That would be their their training. and and then the actual implementation day for the orientation day. The sixth graders just come in one time. So the first two days are teaching the kids this is what you're going to do when all these sixth graders show up. The third day is when they actually show up and that's it. So it's basically three days. Yep. One day for the sixth graders, three day for the eighth graders. Two days of planning, one day of execution. So what's going to be the process for the eighth graders to be selected? We have an application we put out for them. Okay. Yep. We already put that out there. So, we want people that are passing their classes that aren't getting in trouble, right? And uh and you know, beyond that, it's it's just a teacher recommendation. That's the way that we put it out so far. We have had a lot of students that have that have shown interest so far. Now, can you check with their parents and make sure that they're off that day and that they're not going vacation or sorry, can you go a few slides? Um, hang on a second. I think it's the next one. Yeah. So it says monthly theme discussions, but we're only going to do it three days, right? So that's just a general program. We are, but one of one of the things to carry through is just that remember we're going to have these eighth grade students that are going to be like essentially like leaders within the building. Okay. And that's the chance for them to come up with something to try to keep the the sixth graders, you know, to feel like welcome at the school. So I don't know what the the themes will be and stuff like that. Oh. All right. So So it's going to be a three-day thing during the summer, but then it carries through Yeah. Yeah. During the school year where the eighth graders Yeah. It's not like after the mentor. It's not after school things and stuff like that. So you can see for example like a lunch bunch if they have a chance for them to get together uh student led projects to improve school climate. Those are things we do any anyway, but it's just uh a lot of times it's done through either our NGHS or through student council and stuff like that. No, I thought it sounded like it was three days in the summer and done, but it's three days is the startup and then it continues forever. Not not a project. Nothing like that. It will continue through the school year. Maybe not not like this like there there's think of it the it's like their big project is the summer. The other part of it is just keeping the climate and culture in the school good. Okay. Yeah. Like the buddy mentorship like we do for example at log we have certain days where we do like dress down days for something. We have like a themed week for something like that that that kind of stuff can tie in with this. Got it. All right. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's go with it. Fantastic. So, uh, Anthony, we're going to move that one forward. Fantastic. So, um, and also you have the, uh, copies of the slide, this brief slides you see up there and the impact statement information you guys have copy of to drill down even further. But thank you. Hey, uh, the next item there is, uh, your name too. Hello, Jay. Right. Um, so this is aformational as well because we've already Hold on, Mr. Wilson. Hold on a sec. Sorry, Dr. Wilson, real quick. Are you okay if I run back the log because one of my teachers is about to get his outstanding educator award at 1:00 and I'd like to be there when he gets there. Thanks. Thank you so much. I appreciate see you. Appreciate you guys. Look forward. 10 minutes you can make item that we have up and we have here uh to share with you. You receive some information as well as that is our um uh uh BCMA. Okay. Um and we participated. It's our turn again. It's a it's a it's a music um I want to say festival, but it's really a big uh opportunity for the kids across the county, right, to go ahead and share and showcase their skills and and the stuff that they've been working on all season along. And uh so I've asked Mr. Linux to go ahead and provide some uh top level high level uh um information about it and um she can drill down for as well and give you some details along with the information that you already have. So Gina, if you would go ahead and explain um and I believe the last time we participated um was 2018. Is that correct? That is correct. that agreement was it's rotating but it has rotated through the various districts and it's now turning um and it's it's a worthwhile endeavor as an opportunity for us to showcase our students now with us. So if you will go ahead and share some things with the uh committee. This is all the kids, right? Um just for your information, Buck County Music Educators Association, that's what BCMA stands for. Um basically for the most part, almost all the school districts in Bucks County participate in this association of music teachers. We provide a festival every March um where we have six different ensembles. We have two um three middle school ensembles and three high school ensembles uh in choir, band and orchestra. And students from every um district that participates send students to audition for this festival. And they are judged and um some students are selected uh to participate and we bring in guest conductors every year to run those um those honor groups. And each year the festival is passed to a different school to host. So like Dr. Wilson had said, we have hosted this several times. In my tenure, I've been here since 2002. We hosted at least three times. Um last time being 2018. Um approximately 700 students across the county will be coming um to our district to participate. Um and we will be using three different buildings. will be using clinger log and the high school to house those rehearsals over a 3-day period uh culminating in two uh three different concerts. Um a concert on Friday, March 13th um for the choirs and then two concerts on Saturday, March 14th for both the band and the orchestra. Um we are the smallest district that is has the capability to host this festival. Um so you know some of our smaller districts across the county like um you know pen pen or sorry excuse me um new hopeberry is an example um aren't able to host this due the lack of facilities but but we are and we've had great success doing it over the years um and there's minimal impact financially aid to the district when we do host most of the uh financial um obligation is coming from DCMA in terms of providing um license to the guest conductors, purchasing music, providing food, all that kind of runs through um the the organization itself. Um since this is passed on to different districts that host each year, there are some underlying costs that we eat. Um basically kind of our share of of what we give with having our students participate year after year in other districts. Um, in the impact statement of uh that's being uh presented right here, you'll see some of the costs that we have put together. My colleague Chris will put this together. He wasn't able to be here today. Um, mostly nursing. Uh, we need to have a nurse on site. Um, that's part of our bylaws at the uh to provide that um along with security to keep everybody safe. Um, and then uh and I believe that is it. Those are the kind of the big ticket items. We do have some AV needs um that are minimal. We need people to run the AV equipment for the the concerts for the three concerts. Um and um and and that's pretty much it. I'm not sure if I missed anything. Dr. Wilson, if you want me to speak to anything more specifically, I can certainly go into more detail. Well, bec because we have the the actual performance times on that on on the Saturday, right? And then you have those rehearsal times. You know, a lot of the times where the students are present and they're rehearsing in preparation for the culminating event, right? Um those times are actually being captured during already operating hours. Therefore, the existing custodial team or existing security team or existing nursing will be present in order to support that. Now, these schools just like when it was our turn, they are traveling with their teacher chaperoons, right? So, they're they're coming to our buildings and they're being supervised by their band chaperones from their schools just like when it was our time, right? You know, ours went there and we did a good job of supervising. Now that being said, our security staff, our custodial staff operating during hours, so that's not incurring any additional cost during those during school hour times anyway. It's the culminating events when they have to perform. So when you see the hours, well that's capturing those additional hours uh because it's a Saturday um and uh we need to make sure that we're doing our part as a great host and uh having uh additional security present or facilities present uh during the after hours times and um to Miss Lenn's point um we benefit from the same thing that the host have provided. Uh it happens in like an eightyear cycle. So for the last eight years uh minus COVID you know our students were there and and we weren't paying any additional charge because the host district was carrying the additional nursing or security or custodial and then it's our eightyear cycle so it's on us and we'll carry that as well has to be agreed. Yeah, I think I saw on the supporting documents it was like $4,000 or something. I was gonna say this past year Ben Salem school district hosted. Um so all of this was happening in March this past year at Benale and then the year before that I think it was Penridge. So it kind of rotates to different districts each year. Yeah. I think and I think I saw in the supporting documents it's like like $4,000 or something. I noticed documents that have the prices. I feel like I saw on this I think it's on the the attachment for the agenda and I think it's like like four grand or something. It's not a lot. Is the stu is the nurse responsibility just to students and not adults. Yeah, it is open to the public. Right. Well, I just I just need to know that how is what is the um how how does the nurse that's going to be here? How is she going to connect with the area other schools to find out the health problems of these kids? Are do they so I'm sorry. Okay. Um so we kind of do a double thing at least it depends on the district. Um, from DCMEA standpoint, we send out to all of our directors, um, a medical form that has to be completed prior to the event and those career for her review to make sure we we know any of our, you know, highly medical needs, diabetics, etc. Okay. Centennial Centennial or Centennial students. Likewise, many districts like Salem Council Rock provide those similar forms as well. So, we kind of have like a double catch on forms. Okay. Um and that information we we gather that prior to the festival so that our nurses can review that information. All right. Thanks. That's a great great question. Yeah, 6,000. Well, you had to know my background to ask that question. So, so Mrs. Lennox, you said we did this, you know, eight years ago. Do we have any numbers of public participation from them? I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you. But do we have any numbers of how many from the public, you know, attended this event? Oh. Um, number one I that would be um hard to estimate. I mean we have about 700 students participating if you times that by two, you know, two parents, sometimes grandparents attending the concerts. Um, you know, but that's split over three separate concerts. Um, so we do have family members coming in for those evening concerts and and Saturday concerts. So we have that Friday concert. will have um you know community members outside the district you know people coming in for an event just like we would do for any evening concert in the district and then the same Saturday there will be two separate concerts one um in the early afternoon like 1:00ish and then another one at like 3 is there a fee and once again those during the during uh school hours um but also work hours so like our facilities our custodians you know, they're in our buildings all the way up until 10 o'clock in the evening or or sometimes later. So, we're capturing that time anyway that they can support whatever. It's really that weekend the weekend uh concerts that require the additional support. Is there a fee for going to the concerts for people to get in? They they do. Um we do charge a fee for that, but that is directed through BCMA. So that's not a chance for us to rec um provide uh subsidy for all the costs that BCMA occurs with guest conductor fees, providing music, um providing meals. We we do feed the students um Friday evening before the Friday concert and then also in before each of the other concerts on Saturday, but those are all run through the CMEA and part of that ticket price that helps us fund it for the following year. Okay. Okay. So, none of those fees go go towards our recent guest conductors. We the host school every year is uh charged with the responsibility of finding a guest conductor. We too have a number that we go back to year after year um that we know and we we like. Um we've kind of vetted over the years. Um most of these conductors are college professors from local universities. Um I believe I'm trying to think we've had people from University of Delaware. We had Temple. Um we've also had uh previous um retired music educators, even our own uh Joe Levio came back one year after he retired to guess conduct the high school orchestra. So uh we go with people that we we met personally that we know um are solid people. So and all their clearances of course are all made available as well. Jim, one of the challenges is again this is pre-planning because you know there's a lot of information that you've been provided but we have to lean forward because this is all the way for execution next year. Yeah, there's about a thousand small tasks that have to happen between now and March. U beginning with solidifying those guest conductors because they woke up very quickly. Um so we want to get those involved. We want to also locking down the dates. Locking down the dates. Um we have a meeting for I'm actually on the board of directors for BCMA. Uh we have our annual uh June meeting coming up where they're going to ask us, hey, are we good to go? Um are we ready to um have those dates? If not, they need to go to a different district and and have a contingency. So this is really just part of a cycle and this is not for until 26. So spring 26 correct? Yeah. We have to move this forward. So that's a big deal. Thank you so much Mrs. Lennox and Dr. Wilson. And I guess we go back to Mr. Gabriel and the parent square. Yes. Yes. Fantastic. Just time. I got a class coming in about five minutes. Great. Thank you. All right. Back to Mr. Gabriel and parent square. Y if you can jump right to the cost slide and Mr. Rocks. It is uh slide seven package comparison on that one. Um if you guys remember last May you had approved us to purchase a technology called reach 12. It was a two-way translation and messaging app that allows our teachers and families to connect both as the sender and the receiver in a language that is more comfortable for them, but then it translates into a language that's understandable. So, for example, if I'm a Russian speaking parent that just got here and I don't really speak if I don't speak English, well, I can type my message in Russian, send it to my teacher speak Russian, they'll translate to English, teacher can understand the message, I'll respond in English and translates it back into Russian. So, that was an approval that we that you had given us last May. It was about it was just under $21,000 for the technology. Um it was a newer technology. Um we had a very um slow and audible rollout process. It really hasn't worked out the way we had hoped um in terms of usability um thinking with our systems. Uh these were things that we tested up front. You know, we we thought were going to go well. Um did everything we could to try to get it to go well and so we sort of get an impass with that particular company. Um, we did a little bit more research this year and we found a a product called Parent Square. Um, it is the the engage package on the left is the only one we're looking at. We were just showing you what's available. Um the uh we are confident uh that this will be a better match to our district for biggest reason is this will build this is built and it is connected with Skyward which is our student information system. Um we talked with a few other districts in the area that are currently using this um who are also Skyward districts. Um, so a lot of the challenges that we thought we would be able to figure out with the prior product uh that we were not we were not able to figure out working with their team wasn't for lack of effort. Uh, this very naturally integrates with Skyward. It layers right on top of Skyward. Um, the cost for the first year is $4,000 higher, just over $4,000 higher because there's a onetime implementation fee. Um, once we get beyond that, it's pretty much a wash. It's it's around the $22,000 a year or so. I don't know the exact numbers on the um you know, we're asking for approval of the 31 package, but as we're talking, I'm going to just ask we're not going to ask for that. We're going to ask for 2251 175 um for the one package. We don't need the package. Um so, basically, it's just we're taking money that was going to one tool, slightly more expensive, and we're just going to put it into a different tool. uh but we still be able to provide our families with the uh two-way translation services that we we have been trying to provide over the past year to to not great um when is are you planning on sending this packet as is to the whole board? No, I'll strip out because I was going to say strip out engage pre because otherwise we're going to get you know all kinds of questions. Focus on learning. Yeah, that this was more we were goingformational at first. We show both. We decided to leave both, but after obviously our recent conversations around budget, I'd rather we're going to just focus on the left side the engagements 251 175. We'll do in the notes of the cover sheet for the full board. We'll do current cost, you know, future cost with um implementation fee because I'm beyond year one. is I think it's within $1,000 or slightly over. I mean, it's comparable to what we would pay for it if the current product if we would have kept it moving forward, but this is a much more established um product when it comes to its integration with Skyward. This was unfortunately just a product we hadn't come across a year ago in our initial research, but we had always said, "Oh, it' be really great if Skyward had an add-on that we could get that did this for us." And lo and behold, here it is. Um so but we just didn't uh didn't come across on that our research a year ago but we did this year. Um so that that gives us a lot there's a lot more automatic integration. We're not asking teachers to go into another third a third tool for this. It's all going to be you know built in with Skyward. So we'll have a plan again like we always do a very slow methodical systemic plan to roll out next year. um so that we'll be able to uh actually have it work in a way that will help both our our faculty and administrators as well as our families or our parents. So this is for all students, not a student who chooses to have it or family chooses to have it, right? This will get this this will be available to everybody. It will only be for those that need. So So it's targeted towards ELS students. Well, it's it's well Yes and no. It'll be a messaging system now for everybody. The translation will work for folks that need it. There will be it'll be a way to translate communicate with all family discussion. Yeah, makes sense. Same question by reach um Mr. Gabriel m maybe I'm not sure how many people when they they get this on the agenda will read the um uh supporting documents and maybe just go to the slides. So maybe on on on the first slide if since you're going to be taking out the other half maybe that's where you put in the compare prices where it's going to cost the same and where put in there that other districts are using it with Skyward and it works well. So in case people go right to the slides and don't look at the beginning stuff, don't see the important thing. We'll make it much we'll make one slide much simpler like here's why here's what is replacing and what the cost is here. Yeah, makes sense. Yeah, makes sense because yeah, we'll keep that very simple and we can even replicate some of that on a smaller scale in the um sheet for the approval. Okay, I think it's an operator. Yeah, let's put that forward as well. So, and we don't have any presentations. So, that we have uh the six items that's being recommended and we're basically going to move them all forward. So, making that motion. A second. Second by Mr. Ginhard. All in favor? I I I. So, it's passing three nothing. Six items. move it forward to the board uh meeting on the 27th and I guess we are then ready to adjourn with the next meeting being held on June 11th at noon. Thank you. Wow. Thank you so much, Mr. Gabriel.