concerning the 2526 so call excuse appr same 256 presentation that comments the calar similar to this year uh as you may recall uh couple months ago we made a decision to form a four we t or 4 day school week task force consider for future years but this is a pretty traditional calendar here um it has spring break and make sure the right um spring break the week of March 30th April 3r which for those who are interested in where Easter falls that's the week uh preceding Easter year um we had debated the week of the 6th through the 10th but there were some local activities and then there were some State activities that we may couldn't move um that would have cten the way up so the committee elected to go at the 30th through the thir for Spring Break um it has students last day is an hour early Hour May 28th teachers last Workshop day May 29th five virtual snow makeup days the ability to use a PD Day on May 15 as a us some options second are regular meeting with all students learn wellong excuse now we motion to approve the agenda all those in favor signify by saying I move same sign motion carries approve the minutes of the previous meeting motion to approve the minutes any discussion all those in favor signify by saying I same sign motion carries there is no old business we are now to new bu us we should have given done the and Scott schol Stud I'm really excited to tell you about a new opportunity to your tomor we have our first don't stud interested in Tri Tri helps develop soft skills in AER like more comfortable public and develop also an opportunity to and team MERS a lot of into pring our materials for the child preped an open ACH to a PR whatness on cramin Witnesses on the and from we have witness testimonies interv and from both sides of spent advis days after school going over each of evidence overall a lot of hard work and dedication has gone into for our compor really excited to bring in the of school thank you to everyone who made this OPP possible what the St or know only from question thank you we have St presentations next I have intentions of coming to Jenny and also set so we also exced also know you went just about the big idea toote [Music] is have to is there anything else te we're good thank you very thank you no so our presentation from school with this though is these spils from the fs classes and one of F that we've eaten so um there are very on no pressure for the rest of the buildings know I'm just teasing I'm just Jing unless want to have brown radio group is I know it's a lot ofal maybe be 10. 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dedicated teachers and outstanding academ and extracurricular programs help every child succeed commity schools We Believe and 30s were yeah community community school district dedicated teachers engage students and supportes every so those guess I have a question so are we the only School District looking to do this no no I guess what I'm looking at is I mean when we did en on my facebookid so we we got a this year open enrollment it was more I seven or en this year um and usually it's not quite that many and we didn't have as many open en RS out as as the last think in terms of those I haven't I saw zeroes um I just feel like I did like an informal poll on social media of respons people it's a lot ofy count the March 1 deadline we only well we don't either way we don't know we don't know work ading yeah respons I feel right bottle on we want to actually regroup and get solid idea as ad team toote our district I all in favor of that I this was rush I was so we got some great relationships going Withers but thisnot radio again I don't think this is the right time for scho as a district I do want to say something to why why I brought that even though we didn't need it's because it was something new and I didn't want I didn't want to Blindside anybody with it I I just wanted to have that feedback that's so I didn't mean to I did not mean to make that a big deal and I apologize right before open enr we we could do that open enrollment thing but advertising is not quick short BL it's about recog it's about getting your name out there every day people think about us to think about changing where their kid going from school or this whole the whole state is experiencing declining if you look at the morning they're going to close schools okay U and so I'm of the opinion that we are going to have to try and get as many students as we now I will admit that March 1 Blitz really didn't say much different than all those other schools they were all out there I think we were the only on had students it was and I've heard people say what sounded like you know the Medicare opening ROM thing but I and as sarahan Mark and I have talked I think the next step for us is that we can't just say the same thing that everybody else is saying we have to do one of those you got to give people reason to choose us and I think the biggest reason is numbers if you look at for example we have five Math teachers 7 through 12 you go to m go to Arabia okay our numbers are much better than their numbers they can and if I was a parent trying to figure out the best place for my kid part of those numbers would also be we give away $35,000 nobody else does that and that's what we want to put in people's minds is that by the numbers and we got them we got every one of those other school districts I mean we got them down without a we just want to get our message out and $112,000 a year isonly less two students I just toou I think that's a good point I think are areen I I can't I can't remember what we signed for a contract but we do that for advertising okay um we were originally told on that that we would have data showing results when got okay I don't know what results you can show us okay I guess so so in my think on that end of it I have to see results our heart knows this is how many listeners I have in County this is you know this is my target specifics see that that goes back to my next one is quite frankly I'm going to be 100% this was not a decision this I know you this guided decision as far as any adver and that is for we need to together so with that se and of 125 15,000 ads spots over time there some 15 18,000 ads and so I I got just a little bit of background what you said about we spent money on this pit also been and I specifically we were spending ,000 a month and we had to SPO and everything and most stuff that came back and so we didn't get our money out of that is a little different I we supposed to getc but they are doing a lot to cover Sports Stu so there some things the newspaper and that you know we do we need some feed back yeah think we reserve that but but they've done something what I will say about whatever the plan will so it won't be like whatever we do it will happen and I can I can testify that there were we we met once a week once every two weeks for years there's some we we couldn't get together and we didn't have a plan out there we usually plan like 6 weeks out advertising didn't do that she called and says hey you know we didn't me I just want you to know I ran this spot this spot this spot and so the spots were always bu so it's been and so I have let's talk and and I know that on the radio a 360 and quite frankly we're not we're just not so what's the value in doing radio advertising everybody hits it but this type of advertising throughout the year is top ofine advertising to get people to think about schools and when it comes open enrollment time when you're doing that targeting Market you know we're top of mind that oh yeah I've been hear about programs all year now it's time to do so so there's some advertising strategy to do it 12 Mons but I also so there's reasons to do it but I think some things that that you said and D said is the right I'm not I think what we can do and if she can help us with this is we need to do things like YouTube PR we need to do video because the TV is kind of Dy and and people are using this to watch their streaming services so if we can get on that and we can get in front of we can per parents and kids through what they're watching because once they watch that the other thing because one of the things that happens you got the right platform to do that because I recently did this one I um I was looking to make a purchase of something substantial and I was on that I start right and so then what I did I got the I clicked on the more I C the more I get that and I kind of like that instead of all the other so if you get some people to the ad direct website they and get the TR put on and all that kind of stuff all noes but it works and and that way if they clicking on maybe checking some little ads in there it starts to come up the other thing about that type of advertising if it's and I'm not sure what the rates are on this but through my trade Association I you're not that c so that firstc if you skip 5 Seconds adver that becomes a free it BEC l so on like a 30C ad you have to like watch at least eight or 10 seconds and it's long watch certain percent those change time but it's when you if you like skip a lot of people are doing that you got a free 5c so there's some value that because it becom so so I think if we're going to do some advertising which we I went back from one of the datas that we had from some I think we lost 200s in the last million dollar in state funding that we don't get that's a lot of money and when you look at our open en out we're paying for multiple teachers in multiple districts that that money could be here at school so I think we have to be aggressive to get kids back here and to stay in here and do that so I think there's some advertising but I think we also we need to Target the media in the format and if you can help us with the with the pre-roll stuff I think that's where I wouldt rather than something going over I don't know station whatever I agree on the I think we need to have our okay I just think that we need to Carol said there we need to come together as a board figure out how we're doing that prior to any proposal I to me that's a good that's a good Workshop that is part good that a it Mom and Dad worked in this town it's easier to go there there are a few that are mad about something because mad about something the majority of the online ones or because they want to be online but but a lot of them it's you or I went there my dad went there my grandpa went there um so it's a lot of tradition in a lot of to me if you're the right option for what we decide as a board on how to proceed great but I think we need to come together as board the seven of us first before any proposal is put out I I only had a proposal I was requested to bring one so that's we do dis video connot AIO as as all things I know so we can do anything all those as well and I can R proposal times over I'm very Pati and I only had it tonight requested willing to and of cont is the for me I you could take care of allm social media that is yeah and the different typ they're talking about from display connect that's that that's what we move forward but I think with that but if we're not in here fig sure I think that's a good idea and you know when you have this adver you know I'm certainly not an although I but still you want to know who's going to make that decision is it usually the parents make that decision probably on the high school kid is be more want to go for this reason I mean depend on family Dynamics and everything like that but I think that if we're to me if we're going to spend money and spend a lot of money frankly we need to have as a board this is sure that's a good idea I of I want to bring mention we need find out why kids are just as important maybe more important is why are they enrolling in we have to ask that question what made you come here because then we'll know what we're doing is and if we're promoting so I think we're [Music] here me but I think we need I don't know how that Workshop works as far as going to come up I think we need to I don't feelt so not discuss work s yeah and we we kind of went to the every approve go all there so that would it be appropriate even though she's trying to sell us something would it be appropriate if she attended at some point in the meeting to say yeah we can do that I don't to me I mean I think we need to figure out as a district what do we want this anything thatly sent sh and I would say also soti I have learned now how all those things work from the other end they are little so we can can do that would that be good information for oh I can so we're looking at the 24 the information the information and any other questions Derek did you have anything all app the opp you toay for the C I am notate know my circle I was going to have a this is we're it approve the 2425 calendar okay um two proposals for for you with what's happened with snow days or I should say weather days inclement it days because they're not all weather days even um in looking at what we've had this year we've used our five virtual days uh those made up for five of our our weather days we dealt with there are two additional days beyond that one which was the water main break at Lake View which we did nothing that day so there was no virtual stuff that day and then the most recent uh wind blizzard event um that everybody can work um The Proposal that I really like the board to consider is first um to forgive for all staff the um the water main break day including non-certified because we've got non-certified that are going to make up five days at the end of the year already from snow packet days and I'm really concerned that there's not going to be enough work for them and it's just going to be disaster for those folks so in that it would be um taking that Waterman break day for giving those hours for those folks giving them a a paid holiday on that day um so they can make up those other days at the end and then making up the um the most recent wind event on the May PD day um it's the PD having kids and pushing that PD day to the day after students let out which I I have that up on a tab here I have so many tabs open um that would make that uh may day would be May 27th the day after Memorial Day and then teacher Workshop day would be um you well like um not have them have to yeah so like the real challenge we have with noncertified we have some people who are like year round that spread their salary out over and then we have some people who are hour so this would allow us to just say to all of those people like that day is taking care of hour for that day like we do for a yeah ESS that when they're making up those five at the end um they're not making up the six it just seems like that one could be a nice way to forgive it would forgive for staff we have the hours to forgive that for students as well and still have a little bit of cushion um and it just would be a way to kind of deal with what ended up being kind of a little bit crazier winter than we expected at one point um just to make it a little easier to get to the end of the year noers come back days after Memorial Day the students would still be out on the 23rd but would have that I said 15th I think 16th which is the um they would just have school that yeah coming back after especially for your attendance we've made some good progress on so I hate to K it if I can help it um the the alternative that we could do is to go ahead and make up both days which would put us coming back on the 27th with kids the 28th uh for a professional development I'm sorry no 27th with kids and then the 28 or future Workshop um and still using that 60 um I just think if we could do the one forgiving that would really help out probably have the toughest position financially our Associates are paid folks and this would be a way for us to take care of them and say hey realiz this is for of this is we can our okay so how many days how many days that's possible and we can afford to give student hours for that day because we built in enough cushion ask Associates the challenge we run into cians worked each those days so we have to make it right for them uh when we do that but we would want to make it right for okay bus drivers um I guess in my think we're not able a hat that I've worn in the district before I would be I would wonder a little bit about employee Equity because we have certified staff that we expected to do those days non certified sta that we have um but I think you're right it's a different employment category and that that plays into that so I'm comfortable doing whatever we want my my proposal though that I would give to you is to do to forgive that water day and make up as just a make make take the PD day and make that a a student day and make up the day that'd be my proposal room principl have in their buildings for them to do away summer well that's kind I'm wonder they could you know maybe compromise those days and up one of the days I'll be working some of the days but something I would ask Wonder yeah that'd be awesome yeah hey principles do you have any thoughts on how much youd have for people to do at the end of the year none of you were l no it's not it's not necessarily whole staff like our building lead I could definitely find oh I think like Library work I think checking things out I mean I to be real honest there's times where we've let our Associates in the past like we have a lot of mailing sometimes the other ones Stu in the envelopes putting the stickers on you know things like that I I don't know that we have five days though yeah no I thought you were talking a middle like a middle 100 employees I at the preschool that would not benefit me aot of the first yeah and I think you could do some of that um there's only so many copers in the district though that run one time I think we're kind of and I think we're doing a lot better job utilizing technology more instead of copies of the old some I mean I think I think there's some um some great opportunity to have a few days with people but I don't know that we have five days for this let me ask a question if you're the most abely so we're talking six days right well why would we turn the 16th into a would you have enough work for days yeah [Music] [Music] like this the funny thing is there's been two or three different times this year where a new superintendent starts saying we're going to viral how does everybody deal with the fact that the associates aren't there and the bus drivers aren't there what do you do for that so every time somebody comes into it they're like oh shoot we got to solve this problem um but if we could even just make the calendar adjustment for today and then I could R certifi pay adjustment make that work on 24 that beide thank you okay any more discussion all those in favor wednes tell me um so we ended up with some conflicts that were outside of our District's control U for the concer and Jared has done some good work working with our our music teachers to try to find soltion to that and a solution with the band in particular that worked and had very few conflicts was to allow them to do a Wednesday night concert so they could have uh their their members there Tyler you want to talk kind what Tyler had to say I don't oh you're fine um so I just messaged them both because I knew there's some conflict with soccer uh the night of the original one we host Alia for girls and boys soccer and some other stuff and um there wasn't a lot of flexibility with the Alia date uh especially when it comes to stalker officials so I just ask them like you know because I I've created a calendar with all our spring stuff on it they had it I was like can you guys look at it and see if there's any other dates on there you think might work um Mr McCutchen kind of pulled his kids in his fire class and there's only like one or two that we're going to have to miss for uh other activities so they opted just to leave theirs on that Thursday um Tyler on the other hand was missing some major um kids for his and so he wanted to split it for this year move it up a day um so that they wouldn't have to miss so just for this year they kind of came up with a solution where they would split and on Wednesday uh and inquire on Thursday and then our goal is uh when we sit down in April to I'll have everything from activities wise rolled over to next year so when they plan it we hopefully won't have any conflicts next year here yeah there was a little in the kind of scrambling for some dates we got kind of Left For What winter and spring dates were really yeah and then the other the other problem with spring was we canceled soccer for the boys last year so we had I messed with it a little bit when we readed that stuff awesome what was the uh the 30th is it 30 days in April 30 yeah 30 and we and we approved a Sunday drama production weekend so we've done two or three of those we on suay performance [Music] thing want Drama We may have a of people have yeah so my question is push back on this Wednesday um I do believe in our choir concert was a choir concert was a musical thing that we had to do earlier in the year remember that from like November I think it was Cho the musical was on Thursday Friday Saturday there was something that I think we had an individual that it was a conflict for but um obviously we just made that right well I know Tyler's worked with this with are able that would be the expectation that it sounds like we're going fix in place next yeah I think having having same person and we're all going to sit out in in April at our PD day and with the calendar and make sure that we're picking you know days that work for everybody so we've had a little turn leadership that department over the last couple years to try get Jar's doing this pre-planning and again getting out in front of it with people that April meeting he talking about is like what we did and I try not to do this job back in the day when I was a teacher um we would get together at a PD day during the end of the year the music department and we have that whole calendar there and we map out our GES there so those were I don't want to say sacred GES because that's the wrong word to say when you're talking about Wes prce those were committed dates that you you can't um top of and then we got that so this is a clean up of of some turnarounds that caus us and if it doesn't work then we can we'll look for another clean I mean we've talked about what we can try to do and but this is the one that kind of works best for group as sit do that but I think like to give that side of it because there are some important commitments there for some kids I don't know that there many on Tyler's well there's more band kids than chir the CH kids are a smaller amount I think what what we're and what we talked about we want this will be a solu we we got a motion second um in your packet you have a 256 calar um I can tell you the biggest conversation item this year uh with the committee and with some parents that reached out and communicated with me pardon me was uh when put Spring Break um because what we found is there are a set of colleges that have one spring break a set of colleges that have another spring break and there I remember right but um people wanting it to line up with different colleges and everything and um as we talked as a as a committee we found out that a large event that we have on one of the weeks is our our big red track meet which um to build up a track meet to the level that that's at is difficult we have 40 some kids out for trackers here or am I off yeah between boys and girls pushing 40 yeah okay push about um which is great growth so like I don't want to see us uh hurt that program so we picked this date it it is the date uh the week preceding Easter uh which didn't necessarily have to be the case but was a nice benefit it fit that Good Friday that we give to our non-certified folks within that week so we could end just a hair earlier though it's not super early the way the calendar Falls next year um our last day right see that our last day still pretty close with you on there this is what I for scrolling through thank you yeah um so the last two days the 28th was an hour early out 29th is a teacher Workshop day um so it's still close to the end of the month but out before June and we C that by kind of having that little trick with spring break there to have one of the days will beid yes that and that was another part of the debate at the committee I um I was kind of up with C this is aad thing to say but I I would just assume go to June happily off the middle be happy but I don't think a minority on that opinion um so um I try to up that as a result but [Music] yeah you know just because I'm a ner really like love it these kids are over here like Taylor that's great I love that too that's what they're thinking right now nobody darn it captain my captain and all that stuff it's that connection week the we of six um and so that was the other week we looked at for uh for spring break and just to move that then you get because every school hases their corresponding dates so then you have to start again and build back a new new group of schools that are willing to come so again the you know the spring break is never uh that's always a topic right um this year is kind ofd with the two mini breaks um at home I've received a lot of negative feedback about the two mini breaks I don't know public people are nicer to say anything I think but at home I've gotten up a little bit not by my wife but um so you know it is what it is not saying it's something we could never do again but I'm just telling you that feedback is what I've gotten yeah yeah I think it's okay remember motion cares second reading policy have ation a second any F discussion all those in favor signy by saying I motion carries approve the 101 yes uh approve the 2025 26 feature leadership positions okay so in your packet there is a list of people who have applied for interviewed for and been accepted for TLC oppositions uh for the upcoming year the lead positions in the instruction coach um the uh instructional coach proposed is T who a title teacher at Lake View we have a series of people positions Julie and I have talked about we did receive a few L applications that we would have liked we actually had budgeted for an additional I want to say three or four spots Beyond this um that we'd like to open a second round uh for but we wanted to get these names approved uh with the board and maybe come back with a few more lead feates uh later on if that ends up working out if there's anybody that's interested think it's possible some people might have been a little afraid of the interview process beforehand because it used to be a lot tougher than it is and now it's a little bit more like just talk to us about youring talk us about a little bit more open less make a video cor and we did not have many any further discussion those in favor signified by approve the LG G have a motion we have a motion those sign by approve the person business procedures excuse me you made the motion second we have a motion to approve all personel business procedures except I think it's we theast and I would like to move to approve Mar re and or in case people pushing 50 years to been an employee in our amazing thank you thank we've done that that's what we've done in the past so I don't I know that's a precedence for long long I can't think anybody this is ay long this is pretty long what do you propos well maybe a maybe something I I don't think we're violating any sort of Precedence here for somebody that's been years we look something at the of C I'd love to Cate that number of years something at the end of yeah abely I bet he probably won want to go on I'm I was looking at I wanted to see reaction what you want to go on the morning show but no I motion any further discussion all those in favor signi by sign motion carries thank you we are down walk through and it's really nice about really walk through here is of more than which is great Mr you want to so I just want to make one note on those there's 31,000 going 000 going to C so we talk about advertising and open how much does c benefit from $3,000 how many teach second okay we have a motion in a second any further discussion all those in favor signify by saying I I same sign superintendent report I don't have a lot because it was quite a bit of a meeting but I just wanted to say a couple one you might have noticed in the U Personnel reports that we had a couple staff members who were on the list to be sub bus drivers uh including Crystal Bronson one one of our nurses so was just cool and then we had an associate as well would put in for that so it's just I think it's really me Alex gr she's at I want say Alex but uh but uh just great to have a couple people willing to do that um and getting that trained so that that can for us alleviating a little bit of the problem that Mike shared with us about a month ago um we're still looking for more drivers obviously so we're still kind of uh hitting the beat on that and and looking for what we can um thanks for working with me on the calendar stuff uh it really helps to to be able to communicate that out and maybe try to take care of our our non-certified folks with that um if you haven't got a chance to see some of the video ads that we've recently done um some of those are on Facebook and I can help get people there it's been really neat um as we've done Those ads that uh what has happened is kids have seen the ads of other kids doing their activities that they like they're coming to us saying when can I record an ad about blah blah blah blah blah um and it's kind of vital how that's worked um so just really happy that our kids are doing that uh this weekend I had a chance on Friday to drive up Cedar Falls in the morning have a go to a career fair talk to the future of Education recruit some really good C candidates for us that are actually coming in for some interviews later this week and early next week um and then got home turned around went to Council Bus with our Middle School robotics kids um and got to spend the day with them on Saturday that was awesome because usually when I've been around the robotics I've been judging so I haven't gotten to watch the kids do their thing with the teamwork and to see them working with each other and problem solving what happened with their robot when it was in the ring and what they need to change was really neat I know group of kids share a lot of interest in May 9th when the new challenge for next year comes out they want to start preparing so they've talked to Mrs Mitchell who's like the most awesome volunteer person you're going to run across who said yeah I'll let you in over the summer we can work on it and start getting your robot going so that uh we we have a leg up on next year um tomorrow at Marshall Town of mon trial is going to be another fun event and the end of kind of a rwind tour I think and then we'll we'll kind of settle in a little bit but um really looking forward to showing off our kids for all the smart things that they can do any questions a good job she really thank I hope she's in spech that is oh yeah she does all that she likes to talk okay any questions for the super we're down to board takeaways and I'm going first first of all I think it's outstanding that we soccer has has come back I remember when we didn't you know wanted that we'd have a team and uh but I'm very impressed with that the next thing is many years ago an administrator gave me some advice he said don't get too far out in front of them because they'll forget you were with them and they'll shoot you the and that's what happened and I apologize I am sorry well you know you didn't feel like you were far and that's not right okay who's next I was really impressed with the way tonight I just felt like so much a part of this board more so than I've felt for nobody's fault um I just listen to each other and it is the way it should be and I enjoy I think kind a procedural thing I think s of us probably had last week or two I think it's important for all of us to remember that myself included um that we need to encourage people to go through the processes the chain of command how things are going how they're set up we ultimately as a board only have one employee that's superintend so we need toage people they have to go through the processes at the end fin thing but we need to myself include said and that just goes back to councils and everything else that ultimately seven of us have one no I I uh I thought the the career day thing is to get that many people involved really good and some of the kids you know there's so many different things that they you know they're in high school they're not going to make good decisions now all of them maybe juniors seniors may do some just to show that there's all these different things that they can do and talk to some people that have done it I think that's very important no matter which direction we go I think that's good so I thought that was good I'll say one person that that called me he has come into a public place and done his complaining before too which I didn't appreciate you know one of the rests here not an appropriate age appreciate we said on I'm support ad I just think we need to do so I think on the um I appreciate that comment but hopefully feel like we were piing on some of our comments but certain I was me to do that no no but I can I yeah go ahead I get I had the feeling that you didn't feel included and that's the last thing I want I want you all to feel like we're a part of before we move forward and I'll do my best to take so with with that I I I do think there's a lot of financial reasons to do the advertising and um and I said last my takeway last rat because that and obviously policies thatone calls on are probably two good reasons to do a retreat where we have a lot of dedicated time because those are those are issues and we didn't do one last year we got behind on the schule that but I think those are two really really good uh issues to take the time to do a deep dive into those if we get Tammy to do it then those counts towards our hours and that's not has to be we cannot it's it's not a closed session so it has to be open but but but I think you're saying like the topic kind of with that and there's a little bit of fluidity as long as it's within her uh her agenda because we the one we did with her we had a little bit of fluidity just to kind of use topics as an example of how we want to how we want to two years AG brought and we [Music] did like that so we can do anything we want in those there was a lot of freeone discussion those but it has to be an open meeting but what it does is it we did it an hour and um you know nobody attended that wasn't so it's still no conven but and people can come if they want to still have to adver there but it's an 8 hour meeting so most people they don't come for so it just it gives you the opportunity to really um spend a lot of time on a topic and I think those two topics are going to be a lot of time I think the sooner we scheduling better is to P them we can we can do that if they if they're willing we can also record it we can yeah no I get what you're saying but we can do all sorts of things with it um I I'll say it's probably not ex don't a retreat's not required we're not allowed to make decision the only requ is that it's maybe for the 24th can I can I off off of your real quick Sor I think I think maybe I I I like the Cy thing but I think it may also be important for a work session of some sort where each of us come up with one or two things that is really important for us to dig in deeper on and we have that pre-planned on the agenda we can openly talk about that stuff yeah it's kind like what's this has been on my mind talk about Mr burer okay um I'll say that I do like the way the board engage with one another tonight feels besides all that I want to give a shout out to Cameron was nice to see that's it's a good way of putting it I'm super excited for what it's going to be soon it's going to be sweet anything else second all those in favor signify by saying I O carries we are a