You guys ready? >> Ready. Let's do this. >> All right. Um, planning commission meeting of uh January 26. Well, kick it off. Um, call to order. And I guess first thing Oh, the interview's canceled. >> That's right. So, we're going to need a recommendation and a motion to continue Gerald's reappoint on the commission. >> Do we need to approve the minutes for service? [snorts] >> Uh, that's >> not the agenda. >> We put uh we talked about this and we put the appointments first and then the agenda. So, we could take a motion in a second to consider to reappoint. >> Okay. I'll make a motion then to reappoint uh Gerald to the planning commission for the next term. >> Okay. And do we have a second? >> Second that. >> Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed? None. Welcome. You're on for another term. [laughter] >> Yeah, >> you're hooked. Okay. Uh, could I get a motion to adopt the agenda? >> I'll move to adopt the agenda. >> Second the motion. >> Second. >> Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Second. >> Okay. We're looking for a consultation update. Well, good evening planning commission and residents. Um, good to be here. I'm Suzanne Urkl, the new liasin for the city council. Um, month of January was not too busy, but busy enough. We, uh, appointed, we had the HA meeting this last week. We appointed officers, approved minutes, um, designated the newspaper both for the H and for the city council. Um, we advertised for a snow plow operator and we hired um a past member for our um Dan Doabs for our part-time snowplow operator seasonal. Um we discussed the Cedarwood estate estates um mobile park issues and that's a work in progress. Um and we appointed council members to new um committees. Uh we had a work meeting and we talked about the garbage hauler situation and it doesn't look like that's going to go too much further, but we'll see what happens. We had a EDA meeting and Brian Ben Vzansen left is no longer with us. Um we talked about the 1347 Sims Road purchase and that's moving forward very well. Um we lost a park commission and a planning commission member. So we're looking forward to refilling those seats. We approved the purchase of a forestry mulching head which I think will be a great asset for our city. Um we approved the hire of a new city planner. So we're all excited about that. Um we'll see how it works with him three days here and two days remote. But with Kendra working remote, she's kind of proven that it does work. So we'll see how that happens, how that works out. And that's pretty much all I have. Does anybody have any questions? Are you replacing Brian for us then? Okay. >> Yep. I will be replacing Brian for this year. >> Thanks. >> We'll see who comes next year. >> Any other questions? >> Yeah. Susan, so um what what is the plans then with the Sims Road property? Have you guys decided on anything yet? >> No. We're hoping you guys um discuss it too and maybe come up with some ideas. We're um once it's all purchased, we're going to probably at a work meeting discuss different ideas because I know I have my idea my ideas, but I heard some of the council say ideas that I might not be really happy with. So, there's some discussions. Yeah. >> Okay. >> To be had. >> And and when does the new city planner start? February 17th. >> Thank you. I didn't know exactly what date that was. I just know he was hired and >> wonderful. >> He will be at your next meeting. >> Okay. >> Lots of new stuff. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Thanks, Susan. >> Next up, we have a approval of the minutes. Can I get a motion or any discussion on that? Any corrections? I wasn't here. So, >> I was not here as well. So, two. Any corrections? >> No motion. >> Motion to approve the minutes. >> Second the motion. >> Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> That passes. Okay. Um, next up we're going to consider a plan for uh Friday stable estates. Uh, well, it's uh 18215 Glenbrook Drive. And so we're going to talk about a concept plan. First off, we're going to have a public hearing on it. So if anybody >> I'll start first a brief overview of public hearing. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Commissioners, uh this site is on the south edge of the city. So the lighter gray uh at the bottom or grayish is the city border with Ham Lake. Uh the site is an existing farmstead and is proposed for redevelopment. Todd Christensen on behalf of MC Land Holdings LLC has submitted this concept plan review. And this was on your December meeting, but he asked after reading the staff report to table it till tonight so he could revisit uh the the concept plan that was prepared. The property is guided and zoned rural residential. And so the new concept, the concept we're reviewing tonight is to allow eight lots. That is the maximum allowed under our zoning ordinance. The property is guided rural residential. Again, you can see the yellow is East Bethl and the stuff to the south of the red is Ham Lake. It is zoned uh rural residential as well. and the properties around it are developed. The properties to the east are developed with much smaller lots about half the size of the plots proposed here. Generally oneacre lots um and uh some larger uh subdivisions to the north and the west in East Beville and then to the south in Ham Lake. Again, similar size 2 acreish lots in Ham Lake. So this is the concept plan uh that we're looking at tonight. There are three lots accessing on to the north and uh five lots accessing onto the road to the west. Uh I want to point out if I can make the pointer work, which I sometimes have trouble with. Um again, these five lots access onto the road to the west and these to the north. There is planned platted right ofway here and traditionally when subdivisions happen, we want to connect streets. Uh we want this road to come through and ultimately connect out here. In this case, because this is a large lot subdivision, it it is not being proposed to be connected. The ride ofway still exists, but we are not proposing that planned connection as part of this subdivision. The original request was a resoning to PUD, but because he's revised the and it is consistent with the rural residential. So this is a straight zoning proposed flat. Uh the proposed subdivision is 1 point or 2.56 one unit per 2.56 acres and this is something in our code and comp plan that's that conflicts itself. So the comprehensive plan uh says no more than one unit per 10 acres in the rural residential district but our zoning ordinance allows one unit per 2 and a half acres with a minimum lot size of two acres. And what we've said is we're applying that one per 10 across the whole city in the rural residential. So because we have some large farms that kind of offsets these smaller subdivisions. So with that, that is consistent with how we've applied our zoning ordinance and subdivision to allow the eight you eight lots proposed here. The lots comply with the density and the minimum lot size standards, but lots five through seven do not comply with the lot width standards uh of 150 ft. And they will need to be revised. That I think can be um addressed by uh moving the lots to the north of it where those three lots are are on the uh east west road. So right now it doesn't comply with a lot with but it complies with everything else in our ordinance and should be able to be revised. Uh because of that this is simply a concept plan for a plat. There's no PUD requested. There's not currently a request for a variance. And so if he revises those three lots to widen them to the minimum lot width, he would be able to come in with a straight plat. We have uh limited discretion in that. Does it meet the code requirements? then we would recommend approval. So in this case um you really have two options. You can uh recommend approval uh with the condition that they comply with the minimum lot with requirement. Alternatively, because this concept plan does not comply, you could recommend denial based on the finding that the lot with standards are not met. Uh I would say it's a pretty simple solution though to bring it into compliance. So um with that um I'm I'm happy to answer any questions from the commission if you have any. technical questions otherwise uh this is a public hearing and I'd ask that you open the public hearing and take comments. >> I think the only question I had was on the letter we got from the engineer talked about the density of 2 and a half and 2.46 46. Would that be corrected if they made the whis? >> He was not calculating it right. So density is calculated based on the pre-development area and he was deducting land or land for rightway that would be uh dedicated with the plat. >> Okay. >> The two 1 point one unit per 2.56 acres is actually accurate. So that's an error in the updated um engineers memo which was on on your desk tonight. The staff report is correct. >> Okay. >> All right. That's the only question I have. So, nobody else I don't have any question. Okay. I think we'll open the public hearing on this. Anybody coming up to speak on this? Hey. Yeah. So, do you have like a layout of this laid out for us to figure out and see visually of the layout of the land that you guys are? >> It's up on the screen. >> I see that. Do you have one I can get from you guys? >> Is it all right if I give my >> You can give them yours. There's a a packet that you can look at every time you come to a meeting. There's a packet of that deos that you can look at as well, but it sounds like commissioner will give you his copy. >> And to the developer want to speak? Is he here? >> The developer is here. I don't have anything to add. It looks like so here to answer questions otherwise if there's no one to speak. >> If there's no one else I guess >> I I guess I just have a quick question again just curious on why we went from 17 to 8. >> Well if Oh sorry yeah we'll have to and then if you could >> my name is Todd Christensen Embassy Land Holdings. Um it was really just um after working with city staff and understanding the zoning better and a comprehensive plan, this seemed to be the only alternative. >> Okay. Okay. That I mean I kind of figured so >> I do like the other one better. >> I get that. Oh, I have a couple other questions. Sorry. >> Yes. >> Um do you have any concerns then as far as like creating the wisp of the lots as far as making of them? >> No, we can make that adjustment easily. There's enough frontage there. >> Okay. Okay. Um, wonderful. And then I guess my only and I'm not sure if this is a question that you can answer was so having those driveways coming off of the county road. Any concerns with that is that >> um the county has authority over that and they have certain distances between driveways and apparently at this time they feel that that's you know doable. So >> Okay. Okay. I mean, that's my only concern is that is the >> We looked at traffic. >> We did [clears throat] look at some shared driveways, but they're not um they're not they're not very uh attractive, you know, and then you got issues, people dealing with each other, and we know how people can get along sometimes. >> Yes. Okay. Okay. >> I think I think those are all Thank you. >> Thank you. I think with that we'll close the public hearing. All right. And then discussion. Anybody want to start? >> Yeah. I mean everything as long I mean he said that he's going to sees no issue as as far as making the width the lot was up to the the code standards. Again, it's just my concern about the the all the new driveways, right? five driveways coming onto the county road is something to think about, but I did see that they're talking about possibly having them have to put in a turn lane or something of that nature. Um, but that would be my only my only concern would be those extra driveways off of there. You know, that's something >> Wait, wait a second, sir. Do I have to reopen the public hearing then? >> Well, you've already closed the public hearing. So, you have discretion to let anyone speak at this point as the chair, but the public hearing has been closed, >> I guess. Have you signed up on the list to speak? >> I didn't. We just We kind of came a little late. Okay. >> I will sign up. >> Okay. I I mean, I'm okay with opening it, but can we get your name fill that out? >> I'll reopen the public hearing. >> It's just it's a simple question about the about these driveways coming on to Highway 68 there. That that can be a very difficult spot. I live directly across the street and that can be a very difficult spot to get out on especially during rush hour time. There's many times we have to wait five, six, seven minutes just waiting there for traffic to clear. But if we got more people coming out there, it could become a problem that isn't being recognized right now. There might needs meet some kind of traffic control put in to keep that from being as crazy as it can be. >> And I'm assuming, you know, the county has to approve all these driveways and how they're installed. >> Yeah. >> So, it won't be >> Well, I'm just Yeah, >> I want to say that that's that if there's a problem with this whole thing, that's the problem because >> Okay. You can't imagine what it's like at rush hour that there's there's times of the day you can barely get out on the street. So, and I know we've got more people trying to get out on the same street >> in the same area. >> Okay. >> All right. >> All right. Is there anybody else that wanted to comment? Okay, this will I will close at this time for for good public hearing. So discussion amongst us. >> Yeah. Um I just got maybe a little bit of concern but I think um he did he did kind of mention a little bit about it. Uh is that something you're waiting to work with the city on as far as the driveway goes? Okay. Okay. All right. So, you are Okay. Yeah, that's basically all my concern. I don't see much of anything with that. >> The city engineer noted that an MN uh would be required to be completed by the applicant. Um what sort of uh asurances will that study or that provide? Um and they mentioned it u regarding the the drainage uh in this area. So could that be an issue? I guess was something that jumped out at me. >> Yeah, the the minram which is uh mentioned in number one of the engineers comment the minram is really just a quality of wetland and so what that establish that helps us establish the width of the buffer around the wetland. So it just it doesn't necessarily have to do anything with the storm water, but it does it does need to be done before the plat is submitted so that we can identify the wetland quality and establish those buffers. Storm water um analysis would be done um as part of that preliminary plat as well to make sure it's meeting uh city uh and state requirements. [clears throat] Glenn, do you have anything? >> No, I was I was just going to say things like that would be handled at the plat stage. If if they weren't handled, we get notified by the engineer who review it before it came to us. But it should all be have been handled by that point. >> Okay. I guess I don't have anything to add. So, >> one last thing. So, with the with the existing house that's right that it butts up to um we didn't get any letters, anything I would assume. No. Okay. No. So, I'm I'm good. >> Everything looks good then. >> I guess I'm looking for a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the um concept plan with the stipulation that the lot widths on the west side of the plot be brought up to code or is it code >> brought up to code? >> Second. Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed. And that passes. >> The both of these items will go to the planning, excuse me, the city council on February 9th meeting. >> Okay. So, all right. Next up, we have a public hearing. Do you want to go first? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, can we just >> highlight again briefly? This is a conditional use permit for a cannabis micro business at 23773 Johnson Street Northeast. This is an existing building and again, Highway 65 to the east and uh 24 to the south, Johnson Street winding through here. Um, again, a commercial building. It would be uh purchased by this applicant and they would use the entire site for the micro business. Happy Earthmade Products Hemp LLC has applied for the conditional use permit. The property is guided and zoned light industrial and cannabis micro business is a conditional use in the light industrial district. And so I just want to chat a little bit about cannabis. Uh state of Minnesota adopted regulations. cities are required to allow cannabis operations. And there are different types of cannabis operations. There are um in layman's terms, there are growers, there are processors, and there's retail components. And so, a cannabis business that that grows cannabis plants from seed or immature plants to mature plants um is what we're talking about here. And then additionally the state has what they call endorsements for different components of the operation. And so with this application uh they would have two endorsements. They would be able to cultivate or grow the plants and produce consumer products which um could be pre-rolled um product or things like that. I would let them talk more about what that entails, but it's cultivation and and uh production. There is an endorsement for retail. This applicant is not requesting retail. So, there's no retail component to this piece. We've seen some that have had retail. This does not have a retail component. So, it's essentially a manufacturing plan, but for cannabis. The uh packet included a a floor plan for the business to give you some sense. And I I realize it's difficult to read on the screen. This is in the packet. All packets are also available on the city website. But it breaks down how the operation works. And you can see that it's entirely uh devoted to different components of growing and and processing the cannabis. There is a small mezzanine um above the building as well. So in the ordinance there are uh 10 conditional use permit standards that are required to be met uh in order to grant a conditional use permit. A conditional use permit is a permitted use provided that the applicant meets those conditional use permit standards. And in your staff report, we did outline what those standards are and do a complete analysis. For the purpose tonight, I'm not going to read through each of them, but we did find that the conditional use permit standards have been met. In addition to the conditional use permit standards, the applicant is required to comply with section 30 of the zoning ordinance related to uh cannabis operations and section 18, article 8 of the city code, which deals specifically with cannabis. So both sections of the code they have to comply with as well as all state and federal laws, rules, regulations, and registration requirements. And so I know you've seen a couple of these, but I'm just going to say for you as a reminder and for the audience, uh, this is the first step in the process. So the applicant needs to get city approval before they can be licensed by the state. So it's sort of a different parts. They've been working with the state, but once uh they work through the city process, only then can get actually get their license. Some people want, you know, will ask why don't they have their license when they're here because they can't get that. Uh so tonight, um again, staff finds that the CUP for the cannabis micro business with the production of consumer products endorsement and the cultivation endorsement uh does comply with the standards in the city code and uh the planning commission does have two options. recommend approval based on those findings that that the standards have been met. You do have the option for denial, but you would need to very specifically identify which of those provisions have not been met. Um, and so those are the options that we have tonight. This is again a public hearing, Mr. Chair, but if there's any technical questions from the commission before we open the public hearing, I'm happy to answer those. >> Yeah. Um I know you mentioned a little bit about it but can you elaborate the impact it's going to have uh with with the uh citizen within that area or once it's start to manufactured have they ever done any research on that? >> Um this is a permitted use and the city is required to allow this use. We've identified districts where it goes into and we've identified the 10 conditional use permit standards. They do have a um um uh I don't want to say HVAC. That's not right. And I'm going to ask the applicant to speak to this when they come up. Air handling that ensures that the Yeah, that ensures that the smells stay in the building. um those aren't the right words, but yes, whatever we call it. >> Uh and they can talk a little bit uh I think they're here tonight and they can talk a little bit about how they manage that, but from again there's no retail component. So this is people will come in and work here and go home. >> Anybody else have questions for Kendra? Kendra. Yeah. >> Um real quick, uh if the issuance of the cup is approved, uh but the um obtaining of a license from the OCM with one year is not um is there going to be capable of u I guess re reapplying for a cup? >> Yes, they could. >> All right. And I guess I have one question. If they got this and it went through and went through console, all that and they opened uh say they owned it for two years or three years or whatever and they decide they were wonderful owners and it was a good business and everything and they decided to sell, does it get to move on with new owners or would the new owners have to reapply and go through the process? >> Great question. So, conditional uses run with the land. >> Okay. However, um in this conditional use permit, uh it does require within one day of any uh sale of the ownership or change in ownership. Yeah. >> They have to notify the city of that because there are some compliance checks. The state also requires notification. So they uh cannabis licenses are similar to liquor licenses in that there is a background check component to it. So, if there's a change in who owns it, you don't need a new conditional use permit from the city, but you do need to update the information about who owns it. And you do need uh I think it's a new license, but at least an updated license from the state. >> Okay. >> So, there are some triggers if there's a change in ownership. >> Okay. >> And is there we have a limit on how many we are doing, right? Per our in East Bethl that we're providing. We we do in the um I put this in here in the uh retail components, but I don't believe we do in the um >> mezo business. >> Okay. >> Did not, but I just did a report on it and I will find that uh for you uh and confirm that uh while we're holding the public hearing. I don't have any other questions. Do you any of you? >> Okay. Well, we'll open the public hearing on this if anybody would like to come up and speak. >> Would you state your name and address, please? >> My name is Andrew Dunson. Um my my depends, I guess, on which address you want. I um I work at the law firm of him, Sean Culverson. Uh located at 250 Nicollet Mall Suite 1150 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Um, I represent the applicant and uh we would just ask to be, you know, given the opportunity to answer any questions that anyone may have. Uh, respond to any comments that that anyone may have. We have our licensing consultant here um and my client is here as well. If there's any concerns, we can address those hopefully this evening. Um, we've been working with Kendra and your city attorney to put this application together. They've been wonderful. It's been uh a good process from start to now. Um, hopefully the application is clear and transparent. So, um I would just note that the uh the OCM has quite a few requirements and and those all of the requirements of the OCM are going to have to be met before the actual license would be issued. Um so that that one year, you know, we our pre-approval was issued over the summer. We have 18 months from from that date to get the final license. So, this is kind of the next step along the way is to locate a property, make sure that we're in compliance with all zoning, um, and then to purchase the property. So, maybe, not sure if it's clear from your packet, we haven't purchased the property yet. It's under contract. Um, and we've included a diagram showing our ownership structure, intended ownership structure of the property should the the sale go forward, if this all works out. So, if there's any questions, I'd be happy to answer them or defer to our, like I said, our licensing consultant is here if you have any specific questions about the the process with OCM or any of the um required approvals. Um, I noticed I noted that the um the issue of the HVAC did come up. We HVAC is is one of the really quite serious components of the the OCM's requirements. Um, and we actually have a letter here from our HVAC company regarding um the the HVAC equipment that we intend to have installed there. It's um that's a requirement of the OCM and and they're pretty stringent requirements when it comes to odor odor mitigation stuff like that. So, um, really, I mean, our our intention is once this starts running that no one knows it's there. I mean, that's that's best for my client as well as the community because they don't want anyone bothering them. They just want to grow their product and sell it um on the open market, not retail. So, >> okay. >> Should be fairly fairly unnoticeable business once they get moving. Any questions of of us off the bat >> or do we >> um go ahead. >> Yeah, I got maybe a couple for you. >> You said that um they [clears throat] so you haven't purchased the the the [snorts] place yet, right? Um is that something that uh you guys already put it in like a estro? because if if for some reason it changes the mine, uh is that something that you're just going to withdraw everything? >> So, we're we're under contract to purchase the property. Um we've put up typical earnest money situation. Um we have a contract with the seller and uh this is a one of our due diligence items. My my client wouldn't purchase this property if if they didn't think they could run a business out of it. um just like you wouldn't buy a house if you didn't think you could live in it, I suppose. So, that's kind of the idea here is that we need to get these pre-approvals and we've got our pre-approvals, but we now we need from the city of the CUP and to make sure that, you know, the the zoning is going to work out before we move forward with the purchase. But, >> assuming the the CUP moves forward and is approved, then we would we would want to get moving very very quickly. Um because the OCM will not issue the final license until after um the entire buildout is complete. So they want to see the entire setup as it's going to be final before they issue the the final license. Uh so that means that we would have to get our building permits. We would have to do the whole buildout process, finish that all out, uh finalize everything, and then have a an inspection with with the OCM before we would be able to open for business. So, and that all needs to be done within 18 months of the pre-approval, which clock is ticking. So, anything else? >> No, I'm good. But not >> um I guess I just have I have a couple questions. Um so, it looks like you're about 10 to 15 people will be staffing it, give or take on this the cycles it looks like in the season and that kind of thing. It looks like um if I'm understanding right kind of how it works. >> I believe so. >> I mean you could >> Yeah, if he has a better >> Can you state your name and address? >> My name is Evan Jones. I live at 2565 Kiwani Way, Golden Valley, 55422. I am the CEO of Happy Earth Products. Okay. >> [clears throat] >> Yeah. So, I was just looking at is that is that what I'm understanding about 10 to 15 people will be working here. >> Uh, it will mostly be around five people. >> Okay. Yep. I see that. >> Uh, harvest cycles happen every two months and we'll need to bring in temporary help to to uh accommodate that. >> Okay. And is that going to be from like our area? Are you going to provide like is this going to be job [clears throat] opportunities for our local area or is this something that is you're taking from your Golden Valley or other? Absolutely. We would prefer to take candidates that are in this area >> uh so it's easy to get to our facility. >> Okay. Okay. That's that's that was kind of really my big question is if you're bringing opportunity to to East Bethl. So for these >> Yes. We're looking forward to working with you and and the community. >> Okay. Wonderful. Yeah. >> I had a couple. Um, sure. >> My two biggest concerns are security and smell. And I believe they're both covered pretty heavily under the OCM. >> That's correct. Yeah. >> rules. And so will the building have like I think when we were putting in our ordinance and working with that other firm, it was like you had to have excessive amount of cameras and is that am I correct on that? >> Yeah, the the security is is uh very stringent. Yes. >> So, you'll follow the OCM's rules on security? >> Absolutely. To the letter. >> Okay. And then will the building be fenced? >> Uh, no, it won't. >> Okay. >> It is somewhat unclear, but we confirmed with the OCM that since it's an indoor facility that we don't need a fence. >> Okay. >> Um, all right. >> And I I say that because the the rules that they're uh very quickly laying out can be kind of unclear, >> right? And um like I say, I think we've covered kind of the smell or under the those are my two concerns. >> I can I can kind of speak to the smell a little bit more. Uh we're going to be using a VRF HVAC which will recirculate air in completely sealed flower rooms. >> Uh and beyond that, there will be a UV system and a carbon filter. So air that does eventually bleed out will go through that carbon filter. Okay? >> So there should be virtually no detection on the outside of the building. And like what about signage on your building because I know like like he had he had mentioned earlier he's like kind of like you guys are just going to run no one's going to know what this business right you're going to just quietly be doing business. >> Yep. Yeah. The signage rules I I read over those today and uh we are not intending to put up a big sign. Like you said we want to be as covert as possible >> and we're mostly uh businessto business. So >> sure >> we'll be well known in that that area. >> Right. and and like he was saying security to keep also you and and the employees safe, right? Like we want to make sure that is also, you know, we're thinking of that as well. So, yeah. Okay. So, I just want to confirm again because I'm kind of a little stuck on what he was trying to go after as far as the u not so much of the smell, but it's a like a like a limit or a rule or the law that how much you can produce in in one factory. Uh yeah, because if you produce like a thousand unit, let's take for example, why you need a big bigger age facility. If you producing about 500 and know yeah they can keep your assistance. So is that like a limit that you have to follow or is that something? >> The micro license allows us 5,000 square ft of benching. >> Okay. >> Uh in our first phase we're only planning to do half of that and then we're going to do an expansion later on after we have we have some income. >> Okay. >> And I'm sorry the second part. >> Yeah, that was the second part. Uh if you if you expire, is that something that you're going to have to change your entire? >> Oh, yeah. The HVAC is being outfitted for the entire expansion. So, we should be able to accommodate all 5,000 ft safely. >> Okay. >> No questions. >> Okay, >> I'll hand it back to Andy. >> Okay, >> there's no other question. We'll just >> Andy. Yeah. Okay. Is there anybody else that would like to come up and speak on that topic? Nope. Okay. With that, I think I'll close the public hearing and now discussion amongst us. >> I can answer uh commissioner's question about the number of businesses. Um so uh different types as I said different types of the mezzo businesses or cannabis businesses have limitations. Standalone retails uh standalone retail is limited to a total of two in the city. We don't have any yet. Um mezo business with retail is limited to two. We don't have any yet. Micro business uh with retail is limited to two. We do we did just approve in December uh the 5D dispensary. There is no limit on mezo businesses or micro businesses which is what what's in front of you tonight. >> I normally do not try to factor in my opinions when I weigh these issues. I just hear what's presented and try and think fairly about them. From my personal experience, I think cannabis is a very destructive thing. I don't see any good from it. I am stymied as far as anything I could do about that based on the laws that permit this. But I won't be voting for it because I think it's a terrible thing and how it affects people from my experience and what I've seen how it affects their brain functioning. Um, so anyway, I I can't vote for that even though it like if it were a broccoli business, great just because of what the product is. I can't lend my support to >> anybody else. >> No, I mean it's it's if it's in compliance with CUP standards. Um this is another business for the city. So, I guess that being said, um I'd like to make a motion to recommend approval. >> I just wanted to say one thing before you did. I kind of feel that way. I'm being pressured when this was brought up because we live probably a quarter of a mile away from it and uh my significant other kind of feels like Glenn, you know, but I struggle with it because of the fact that it the business meets the rules and we have to allow it and it is, you know, I think I think it's uh not up to us because I just don't want it there. I don't think that's right. Right. And um I guess I would like to see a fence at least off the building that goes around the entrances and the parking lot per se for I think it would help security a lot. And um I think I would push for that as the project moves forward. Um, but I guess that's how I feel is that I think that I mean we had that other firm come in when this came up a year and a half ago and you know by law we have to allow some of this if it comes to us. I mean we can't just do it because we don't feel that way. So I guess that's my opinion on it. So, so if anybody else got anything else? >> Yeah. Um, yeah, for me it's it's just going to more more of the the the restrictions and maybe in uh inspections um just to make sure our environment is safe. Um, and that's something I'm not hearing that they will, you know. So yeah, for me it's like yeah, I would definitely I would definitely approve of it. >> Yeah, I our world is changing. So I I think at this point um anything to bring business into our community um as long as it's following rules, guidelines, and and it sounds like they they are very knowledgeable. They're they're following as they're supposed to and and it sounds like they're they're being very responsible about it. There's no reason to deny that. So, um regardless of feelings of of of anything of that nature. So, again, that's those that has to be set aside from whatever however that uh feeling part of it is. But no, I I I think uh again it's we have to look at as a black and white and this would bring good opportunity and um 10 years from now, who knows what this landscape's going to look like. So um I'm excited for any kind of new businesses to come into East Bethl, provide opportunities for people. I think it's a it's a kind of like a no-brainer really. It's growth. >> Yeah. But I just want to see like at least like more details u and know especially um it's a it's a good business and it's a bad business but um if I can get a little bit more paperwork on the inspection is it going to happen like every now and then so that we make sure that we save I think that's something that would definitely move as well. All right. With that, I guess I'll look for a motion from someone. >> Um, I'd like to make a motion to approve the conditional use permit for cannabis micro business um with the production of consumer products endorsement and cultivation endorsement at location 23773 Johnson Street. I'll set that out. Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. >> I. >> Opposed. >> I. >> And we'll note that Glenn's opposed. And uh the motion passes. Okay. Uh next staff update. >> Well, Councilwoman stole my thunder. I was going to give you the heads up that last night's council meeting, the council did a hire a new planner and I expect that at the February meeting he will uh be in attendance. >> Okay. Will you work with him a little bit? Will >> Yeah, I've been talking with Matt about a transition period, but he's an experienced um government employee um city administrator and planning role. So, I think he'll be able to jump in pretty quickly. So, is he from what is he from another city? >> Like local Yes, but off the top of my head, I can't remember where, but um I'm sure we'll be excited next month to give you background, but yes. >> Okay, >> that was all I had, Mr. Chair. >> Okay. >> Um with that, I guess we'll make a motion to close. >> I made a motion to close. >> Second. >> Thanks.