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East Bethel City CouncilTuesday, July 29, 2025
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Okay. At this time, I'll bring the uh July 28th, 2025 meeting to order. All rise for the pledge of >> allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the fors indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Make a motion to adopt tonight's agenda. >> Second. >> Have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor? >> I presentations. No county. >> Good evening, uh, mayor and council. Uh, June was our busiest month. Uh we responded to 499 calls which uh was about 50 more than we had the previous month. Um we handled seven thefts, nine assaults, and six damage to property calls. Made a total of 58 different arrests for miscellaneous offenses. And we conducted 169 traffic stops that resulted in 30 traffic citations. Um our very first notable call over the month is a little bit different than what I've done in the past. So, we had one deputy uh working a shift uh on the evening of June 1st. Um between the hours of midnight and 4:30 a.m., he made three different traffic stops. And in those three traffic stops, and I'll just briefly describe each of them. Uh the first one at um 12:28 a.m. at Highway 65 and 245th, Deputy Martinez arrested a driver for a BAC of 0.12. So, a secondderee DWI there. Um, about two hours later at 1:23 a.m. at Highway 65 in Viking, he made another traffic stop and arrested the driver there. The blood alcohol concentration there resulted in a 0.14 which resulted in a thirdderee DWI. And then lastly, at 4:22 a.m. at Highway 65 and 221st, Deputy Martinez made another traffic stop and arrested the driver for DWI. The BAC result on that was a 0.125 which resulted in a fourthderee DWI. So in the span of four and a half hours, uh, Deputy Martinez made three traffic stops, arrested three drivers, brought them all to jail, booked them all on charges of DWI, and did the paperwork in his shift. Um, that's what law enforcement refers to as a hat-tick. So, three DWI arrests in one shift. Um, we work 12 hour shifts. This happened in four and a half hours. So, um, he was later recognized by the Office of Traffic Safety for his DWI enforcement efforts on that particular shift. So, um, well done on his part. We don't see that very often, but um, again, a little bit of proactive enforcement goes a long way and keeps us all safe on the city roads. So, thought I'd bring that up this evening. Um, real proud of his efforts there. >> Yeah. Thank you. Tell him thank you from our council for absolutely >> doing that and we congratulate him. >> Absolutely. Uh on the 7th of June, uh at 5:53 p.m., Deputy Madson was on patrol traveling east through the 1600 block of 209th Avenue when he noticed a group of people standing in a roadway. Deputy Madson recognized several of these people and knew that one of them have had an active gross misdemeanor warrant out of our county. He stopped to arrest the male and when he pulled his car over, the male began to walk away. Deputy Madson called for the mail, advising him to stop and walk back to him, which he ultimately did. Mail was arrested on his warrant and transported to jail. On the 13th of June, at 2:22 p.m., Deputy Grahams received a call of a male with an active warrant out of Max County at an address in the 23800 block of Filillmore Street Northeast. While driving to the location, Deputy Grahams observed a vehicle matching the description of the suspect's vehicle leaving that particular area. As it passed, Deputy Grahams observed the mail with a warrant in the passenger seat. Deputy Grahams made a traffic stop on the vehicle and arrested the passenger for his outstanding warrant and later transported him to jail. And then finally, on the 22nd of June at 9:10 p.m., Deputy Sefolk was conducting directed enforcement activities near a problem property in the city. While doing so, he observed a motorcycle without current registration. that motorcycle was displaying registration from 2017 past the squad car. He began following that motorcycle and stopped it at 65 and 221st Avenue. While speaking with the driver, the driver of the motorcycle admitted that he knew the registration was expired since 2017. There's also no insurance on the bike and the driver hadn't properly trans transferred the title as required. So, the driver was arrested for these violations, transported to jail. his motorcycle was towed and held for proof of proper documentation needed to travel on our roadways. So again, I had mentioned before, proactive enforcement was up for us over the month of June, which is nice to see. This is our busiest month by about 50 calls as I had stated earlier and we were still able to get out do some of that um proactive enforcement which really made a dent in kind of what we've been seeing over the summer which is that the vehicle traffic um the intoxicated drivers and some of the other hazards that we deal with on a roadway on a regular basis. So um it's hard to believe it's August so we're finishing up the summer already. Fourth of July has passed us. We're moving into the last month of summer. So, wishing everybody a good end to the summer. Stay safe. If you see anything out there, give us a give us a call. >> Any questions for deputy? >> No, but I'd like to say some. I'd like to thank you for these reports that you give us. It gives us the trends and outcomes, recommendations, all of which help us, I think, understand the challenges that you guys face out there and if there's any opportunities for like collaboration. Which brings me to my question. Um, are there any community outreach programs or crimerevention programs that the sheriff's department can recommend or is planning to implement in our community >> in the near future? >> Yeah, good question. Um, I oversee the crime prevention area of the sheriff's office, so I think many of you might see Laura Landis' uh updates through Friday updates, I think. Um, I hope so, at least. Um, if you're interested in getting on that email chain, I can certainly do that. For anybody that's interested, just send me a list of people who might want to see that, might want to read it. Um, Laura and I are always conversing back and forth on what we'd like to see. And, uh, certainly nightight is a big deal for her, big deal for us at the sheriff's office. So, um, nothing new on the forefront, but just maintenance of what we already have developed over the years, I think, has been very helpful. I remember going to those national night out or night to unite um events and they were very very nice to see. You get to engage with the public in a different setting. It's very helpful. So um if if anybody has any suggestions on what they'd like to see out of us on a crime prevention on the crime prevention side of things, definitely shoot me an email or you know uh give me a phone call and we can certainly we can certainly table it. Laura's um very willing and active in her role at the sheriff's office. So, she does a lot of the car seat initiative stuff. So, if people have questions on car seats, um she does the Friday updates. She organizes all of our in-house stuff. So, cast fishing is coming up this weekend, I think, over at Lake George in Oak Grove. So, um managing some of those programs are um on the forefront of her day-to-day responsibilities and activities, but we're always looking for something new. >> Thank you for that. And how how do you get on that uh email? Just email you. email me and I I have your email so I can just attach your city email to it and we can get you on that. No problem. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Anyone on council want to have that? >> Why don't you just add everybody? >> We'll add everybody. >> Thank you. >> Excellent. Thank you guys. >> Fire department report. Uh, mayor, members of the council, good evening. Um, I will continue to make these a little bit more uh PowerPoint friendly with some some data that we can show trends on as well. Um, I I believe um well, since I've been here, this past month was our busiest month at 107 calls. um 55 of them were medicals uh which was about 51% of the calls and then the other uh leading c uh category was um good intent calls. So these are going to be the smoke in the areas and that kind of stuff. Um we had one fire uh it was a brush fire that was uh an interesting call to say the least. However it was handled, um the party on scene agreed to get the correct permits and continue on with uh their burning in a more manageable uh setting. Um other than that, um we've had good participation from the membership um and the officers. Um, as we were talking about uh night to unite, we have a firefighter that's helping plan our participation in it, which is great to see. Um, and we have uh members stepping up in many different initiatives that we have going on. Um, we were able to come to an agreement on the turnout gear that we're going to be purchasing going forward here. um which was pretty much unanimous across all membership or all members uh of the fire department which is great to see. Um they got the chance to be part of that decision. Um other than that uh big thing's been uh recruitment and retention which we have part of that on the agenda for tonight. Um and then uh uh station upgrade have been a couple of the bigger things going on. Any questions? >> Uh so I just so we don't have to pull it from the consent agenda. I just wanted to say good job on your recruiting efforts and these look like some good candidates. So just want to say thank you and congrats on that job. >> I would like to give that credit to where it's due. that effort was put in place prior to my arrival. Um, we were able to carry it forward. Uh, Deputy Chief Uden uh carried it forward. We had committee members from the membership also be active participants in that. So, it's been a group group effort. >> Okay. Well, tell the proper people council thanks them and look forward to more. >> I will do that. Thank you. Yep. >> Any other questions? Thank you. >> Thanks, J. >> Okay, before we go to public forum here, I just want to reacquaint people with the rules of conduct of our uh public forum. Um, seems to be getting uh a little lack. So, I'll read this out. Uh, those who wish to adjust the city council must sign up to do so before the citizen input questions part of the meeting begins. They must be current residents of East Bethl, Minnesota and should state their name address before addressing their topic. Nonitizens will be allowed to speak at the mayor's discretion. Mayor will invite speakers to the podium. They are asked to speak clearly into the microphone. Speakers are limited to three minutes to present their comments and questions. If there are multiple residents who wish to address the same topic, they should choose a spokesperson to speak to them and it's choice city council may simply listen to the comments or may engage in a dialogue with residents. So just wanted to reiterate that to everybody because it's been kind of a been foregoing lately. So with that said, we'll uh have the public forum. Brian Bazans, Ryan Bazansen, 22337 Quincy Street Northeast. Um, I had not attended Booster Days Party in the Park for a number of years and uh, I was very impressed how it how it went last Saturday and I think that uh, I I was impressed. It was it was a very interesting fun day and um I would I think that anyone involved with it should should get some kudos or get a kudo. I may miss some of the staff, but I know a number of staff were there. But I especially noticed that when I ate breakfast at 8:00 in the uh in the senior breakfast next door, Carrie Frost was there. She was there when I came when I came back during the day and did my thing that I was asked to do. And she was there when uh they started setting off fireworks. So, it looked like she was there from before 8:00 in the morning cuz she was already running around to uh at the end of the day. If I missed any other city employees, I ask for their ask to get a pass on that one. But yeah, she really did a good job. I as like I said that's all I have. >> Thank you, Brian. >> All right. Consent agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve the consent agenda. >> Second. Have a motion and a second. Uh nothing pulled tonight. Pull pull C and D. C and D. That's it. Okay. We have a motion second uh for amended uh on the agenda. All those in fa favor I >> I >> opposed. Unheard. Item C. Item C, the additions and corrections that I asked for got done. And uh one thing though on page 32, line 36, it's uh it says Smith stated and I I'll second it. I made the motion. It should say Miller >> on that. >> Miller for second. >> Miller seconded. Okay. >> So with that, I'll make a motion to approve item C on the consent agenda. >> Second. >> We have a motion to second. All in favor? I I >> opposed. None heard. Passes. Item D. D. I want to pull the minutes. I actually I want to table them. There's stuff missing and I'll get it to staff. So, I'll make a motion to table. >> Second. >> We have a motion, a second to table item D. All those in favor? >> I opposed. None heard. >> Moving on to 8G, item one. Okay. Uh, Mr. Mayor and Council, we've uh been talking a little bit about the fire station floors in the past and some of the um cracking and degradation that's occurring. Obviously, we have very large equipment that's driving across it. And uh and so as part of the capital improvements uh this year, we've kind of gone out to get some bids. I believe we have three biders that are out there right now. And uh we had brought this before on a prior council meeting, but there was a a little bit of question on some of the warranties and so we wanted to bring it back, make sure we ironed that out um and and gain clarity on that and um and we've done that. Uh the the recommendation based on that clarity is a different company, Modern Concrete Coatings. And uh you can see the fiscal impact there is $78,000. That would be to do all three stations, including the office, bathrooms, and workrooms in in station one. So the flooring in station one is is kind of run its uh um lifespan. And then the other stations as well have uh have problems with their floors as well. So, uh, we're hoping that maybe the product that was used prior, whenever that was done quite a few years ago, isn't the product that's used today, but we have, I believe, a 5-year warranty on it now. Chief, if you want to Yep. Um, and, uh, material warranty on that and any cracking or anything like that will be their responsibility to replace. >> Uh, uh, I do want to point out one thing that has changed. modern uh concrete coatings to get back to me. They were incorrect on the manufacturer's commercial warranty of a lifetime deal. Um it's it's the five-year, but it's not a lifetime warranty on that part. Um, the other part is I just want to make everybody one of the logistical issues that we were going to run into or that we could have run into was having to empty station one which houses the majority of our apparatus and having limited space to put that back or to put it where it is still serviceable to the citizens. Um, modern uh, concrete coatings has recognized that and said, "We'll come out two different days or two different times and allow you to maintain half of the apparatus floor." That way, we're only relocating the utility vehicles and we keep the response vehicles, the primary response vehicles inhouse at station one where they're supposed to be. Um, so that's and that's at no extra cost. One of the other companies did say that they would come out and do that, but to mobilize their crew twice, it would be an additional cost on top of that. Um, and it is a verbal it via email. If we were to do this in the fall with modern concrete coatings, there's a chance that it may come back less, but the planned fiscal impact is what was noted. This is >> Yeah, that's sweet pro. Can I ask a question? >> Of course. Does anybody know how long it took before the floor started to crack with this last what's currently there? >> It didn't crack. What happened is right after it was coated and that except for the time it was supposed to first truck we backed in the heat from the tires adhered to it and when the truck left the next time pulled it up. has happened three times in a row after the floor was done three times in a row. >> And if I'm correct, that's currently an epoxy >> floor. Uh they're proposing to use a polyaspartic which is supposed to be more durable. It won't yellow or degradate as easy. And they're also putting on on a high wear polyurethane top coat to improve the wearability of this coating as well. So we shouldn't have that risk call it. Um we shouldn't. However, I'm not going to say we won't. Um we also have their workmanship warranty that would cover that. That would be on on them. They understand that it's a commercial application with heavy traffic on top of it. So, and it kind of happened right away. So, five years is a good >> within the first year, we replaced that floor three times. >> Wow. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Any other questions? >> Um, when they before they put the new floor down, I assume they take up the old one. They will be diamond grinding all surfaces. Um, except for in the hallway. Um there's a coping that comes up the wall four to six inches. They don't have a good way to diamond grind that. So they use a different process and they'll recode it to match. >> But the old products taken out before the new >> correct one is put it'll be down to bare concrete. It will be prepped for the new floor at all three stations. Okay. >> I know it's listed in your estimates so it's there. Good idea. So your proposal is which one? Uh modern concrete coatings. Okay. Well, I would make a motion to go with the recommended company of Modern Concrete Coatings that carries a 5-year warranty. for new floors at fire stations one, two, and three as provided in the quotes. >> Second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? >> Thanks for looking into this. >> Yes. Thank you for your support. >> Hearing none. All those in favor? I >> opposed. Unheard. Motion passes. Okay. Item uh gee, the purchase of property. >> Um Mr. Mayor and Council, um at one of the prior EDA meetings, um uh motion was made to direct staff to look into and negotiate pricing on 1347 Sims Road. Um 1347 Sims is on the corner of Highway 65 on the northwest corner and just south of uh MC's garage. And um and we were kind of discussing kind of opportunities that uh may exist out there for the city to, you know, to invest EDA dollars to kind of encourage development and to work towards bringing in um something other, you know, something that you can control to come in. In other words, if it's zoned for something and say it's zoned for a car lot, you may not want a car lot there, but it's kind of hard to deny that um if it's zoned for it. So, this will give you an opportunity uh to control what goes in here. Um and as we've talked a fair amount about um uh kind of the the future of this intersection, the future of this area in terms of uh going to the state looking for dollars for a uh a well and treatment a water treatment center lines going down to hook up to the schools and uh coming back for the for the sewer lines. Um we're we're hopeful to be successful in that. But this whole quadrant then will kind of with the proposed industrial park to the south, this parcel and a couple other parcels in there I think will become um very uh lucrative parcels you might say. Now lucrative means you can either sell it, you can uh encourage, you know, you can write down the value of it if you have an interested party coming in that you really want to have in the city. uh say a small grocery store or something that I'm just kind of spitballing a little bit. At any rate, um it gives you options and um and you have before you here a resolution that um kind of identifies uh the cost and um we um we were the original asking price was 260,000. They had to uh determine if the septic system was operational. That that failed. They got three estimates for the septic system. the highest was 25,000. So they agreed to reduce the price by 25,000 on that and um and staff believes that this is a pretty good price for 1.83 acres on the corner of 65 in Sims. At any rate, uh wanted to bring it before the council here and um uh make you aware of the EDA's decision and then uh if it's if it's something agreeable to the council, have a resolution here authorizing the purchase. Uh once authorized, we would then go through the uh survey work, go through the phase one, possibly phase two if need be. Um and uh eventually get to closing here, probably within 30 some days is is what they're estimating. So this is tentative obviously in terms of u you know contingent on on council approval. I'll make a motion to approve resolution number 2025-45 authorizing the purchase of real property at 1345 Sims Road Northeast pin number 03-33-23-34-00002 >> second we have a motion and a second discussion >> I have one question on a resolution do we have to do a public hearing on something like this >> Jacob I guess I'm asking you. >> Yeah, Mr. Mayor, Mr. Council, council member, no, you do not. >> Okay, good. That's all I have. >> Okay. Uh, shouldn't go back to the resolution? >> Back to the resolution. >> Shouldn't that read uh agreement after purchase? because that's what we're going into is a purchase agreement. >> Right here, purchase agreement. >> Yeah. >> Um, we can put that in there. I I guess I would I would ask uh our attorney if that's required or if it's assumed. >> Sure. Mr. Mayor, council, if you if you will. Um, Matt, can you point out where uh the language and question is? >> Right there. authorizing a purchase agreement or the purchase of >> bold underlined. >> Oh, I see. But you're >> Yeah. >> Um the the language there appears to be, you know, adequate to approve the the purchase agreement. >> Okay. The other question I have, are we going to do an appraisal on this plan? >> We can have an appraisal done on it. I think the um the uh the tax assessed value is 240,000 if I'm not mistaken and they were asking 260. >> Yeah. The reason I ask is the the property just uh west of it sold last August for 148,000 and that's three acres. Okay. and the other property right next to Cedar Creek they're selling right now at 165,000. So I'm wondering if the value of this is overrated or I think it'd be >> I think I think it'd be diligent to have an appraisal. I think you if the motioner and seconder want to want to include that in you know contingent on an appraisal and and all the necessary paperwork obviously >> I'll modify my motion to include the words contingent upon appraisal >> I'd second that too >> I wouldn't want the city to invest in something that didn't appraise it was a good point >> Mr. Mayor, council, if I may ask the question, when when we make this motion and have the discussion about including language about appraisal, Mr. Miller, you maybe just put a pin on it, what exactly do you mean by appraise out? >> Uh, the fact that if we want to buy something for say $200,000 and an appraiser comes in and looks at the property and says its value is a hundred, it'd be very it wouldn't be wise on our part because we only have two ways to make money. Investment and taxes, and that would not be a good investment. >> Sure. What what I'm really driving at and it was a poor question on my part is um considering that it's a motion that would be make the purchase agreement contingent. You'd be the contingency would be that if the property does not achieve a certain valuation on appraisal equal to the proposed purchase that the >> yeah it doesn't match the purchase price. >> Okay. Right. Just wanted to make that clear so we understand what >> for the record >> what the contingency would be not simply having an appraisal but that the appraisal has to meet the certain purchase price in the agreement. Okay. >> Any further discussion? >> I got a couple questions. Um, so the septic's bad, non-compliant. Um, are if we were to purchase, are we going to put any money into that? >> Um, so, Mr. Mayor and Council, uh, that's a policy decision for the council what they want to do with the house there. Um, it's currently, uh, zone commercial, but it's grandfathered residential right now. So, if you if you have, say, a a business that's going to come in there, you would not want that house there. You would possibly use it as a, you know, a training op for the fire department. Um, you could you could essentially invest $25,000 in the septic system. You could rent out this property until, you know, a development comes along that you find acceptable. So, you have options. Um, but currently, um, I believe there are people living there. if I'm not mistaken. Um, and for whatever reason, septic systems operate to some degree, but they don't pass the muster when it's when they're tested. So, >> septics can operate, but they may not be in compliance with the new rules based on grade separations, >> right? So again, that's that's a policy decision for council if they want to lease this out, if they want to tear it down, if they want to, you know, ideally, I think if you want to make it uh a commercial, you know, attractive commercial lot, you'd want to make it pad ready for somebody to be able to move in without having to take on that additional cost. But cuz that'd be my questions with if we do acquire the property, what's is there going to be any cost with the septic? Is there any what are we going to do with the house? Is it going to be removed? What will be the cost to remove it to tear it down, dispose of? Uh what's the cost of doing the environmental report? Uh in the uh purchase agreement, it shows that uh two ground propane tanks. I assume that means inground propane tanks. >> I'm not sure if they're I believe they're probably above ground for propane, but >> So it just says ground. >> Okay. >> Um I I didn't see any above ground when I drove by there today, but doesn't mean that they don't exist. But uh if they are in ground, what's the sizes? What's what's going to be the cost of removal of all this stuff? If big if if the city pays 235, what are the additional costs going to be in prepping this property for whatever use? And if we do purchase this property, we should probably figure out a use. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, these are these would be discussions we can have um once we know that it passes a phase one, once we know that it passes an assessed value, you know, once we sign on the dotted line, we can we can be doing the background check too along the way. Um, you know, I think as far as if you look at, you know, every man's treasure across the way, if they were to sell that land to us, we would have to take the tanks out and that sort of thing as well to try and make it, you know, obviously something that would be attractive to to people. um you could leave them in and say we we're selling it but you have to absorb the cost to you know to remove all this and that would then factor into their decision where you know whoever they are you know into their decision as to whether they're going to come and and utilize that property. So, >> yeah. And and the other thing is it's a a bit of a gamble cuz ideally this property would be useful with the sewer and water that would go in, but that hasn't been approved yet. We don't know if it's going to be approved. Um >> the sewer, sorry to interrupt, the sewer goes right by on the on the >> There's horse main. >> Yep. >> And so they have to put a lift station in and lift stations aren't cheap. >> Yeah. And the the um the water is the is the one that's not in close proximity. Yes. >> Y So >> So we don't really know what's going to happen. >> Well, we don't have any guarantees on that water project. No. >> No. Um, so if the water project doesn't go through, what's the public good of the city buying this property? >> Well, then you have essentially you have the same lot as um, uh, MC's garage and you they would have a septic system of some sort and not an ideal situation, my opinion, but we're still working hard on the water project. I think uh I think it's it's critical not only for the need of the schools but in terms of the again getting that conversation of the decommission landfill and proximity of things that it's probably best that that that um that the state aid us in in getting this project underway. So yeah, it's uh I think if we definitely knew that that was coming in, it wouldn't be much of a discussion purchasing this property. But right now with the unknown cost of what we do with it. Um and the unknown if the water tower is going to come, uh I think it's too big of a gamble right now at 235,000. this is taxpayers money and they should be expecting to get something out of it. >> So that's that's my thought on it. If we get a lower appraisal and purchase agreement uh the property owners agreed to a lower purchase price then my attitude may be different but 235 that's a large chunk of change. Okay. All right. Any other discussion? >> Yeah, I want to discuss the fact that didn't we have a guy come into the EDA that said as these bridges and this road system comes out of plane towards us, dropping more people and making the commute shorter that commercial property was going to go up considerably along 65. And in that case, this is happening. I think it's less of a gamble and an opportunity for the city to get something that is fairly cheap contingent on the fact that it must appraise out, which is only a smart thing to do with that one. But it's an opportunity for the city to have property in prime location as this comes forward. And as far as how cities make money, it's an investment and it's property taxes. And it's not that heavy on the investment side, but it does help. Good investments are hard to find nowadays. and real estate in that prime location on the corner of Sims and 65 into the near future could become very attractive to a lot of different companies and very um in terms of a profit for this city. I mean, nobody's going to flip something overnight and make money. We all know that. But the opportunity to invest in our own city right there. Um I I think we should take a hard look at. We discussed it in EDA as doing such. Uh and after that meeting how they were pushing commercial property down the road from us, the city is in a prime uh position to take advantage of something like this. And I don't think we should waste this opportunity. We don't have often too many opportunities to make serious money up here on investments and that would be one of them that I would say would would pan out very well. But that's my opinion. All right. Uh I think we should move forward just to get clarification if the land is doable and uh we have the last decision before we do sign on the dotted line anyway. So >> will this come up for a vote again before we sign? Well, not with a contingent scenario. In other words, if it does appraise out um at this value or, you know, or more, then we would meet that threshold and we would have the authority to sign for that. The mayor would, I would, and we close a deal. So if it came back you know 180,000 then you know we we if we don't if the council didn't approve it then at that point we would go back to the seller and say this is all we can do take it or leave it and they can decide what they want to do at that point. So there is a point that Brian made that I would like clarification on is what what unknowns like those tanks I would seriously like to know and and if that's going to cost a lot of money that needs to be reconsidered. >> Yeah. But but I think we need to do some more homework before okay we actually authorize go into a purchase agreement. >> I can clarify with the selling agent. >> Yeah. >> I mean we know that you know taking a house down is $10,000. Uh we know that burning a house down is probably less than that, but you still have to dispose of the material after it burns down >> and you can only dispose of it in certain landfills, which cost lots of money. >> So, it's a cost of training, I suppose, but it's um you know, there will be some cost to making this pad ready. I mean, there's there's, you know, whether the city takes down the trees, you know, and makes a pad ready, or you know, the the future owner assumes that cost. I mean there's there will be cost in preparing the site. >> Would you be able to do some homework on that? Figure out the some of these unknown costs. >> Yep. >> And have that at our next meeting? >> I can have that for you at the next meeting. Yes. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> And uh just so we know what we would be getting into in case we do purchase. We should know that. Is anybody opposed to tableabling this item to the next meeting until we get those costs? >> I was just thinking I'll resend my motion and make a motion to table this resolution. >> Second. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. Unheard. Motion pass. >> Okay. Okay. Item 8 G2. >> I'll be abstaining from discussion and voting on this item. >> Uh Mr. Mayor and Council, um we have before us, uh something we've been working on now, I've been working on for the last two years, but I think it's been a topic that's kind of been kicked around the community for quite a few years. And so, uh, we had the opportunity, uh, to meet with, um, Brian Mundle, Senior. Um, we met for about two two and a half hours, uh, and we kind of laid the cards out on the table in terms of where the city's at and where the contract is at and where BDM Construction is. And, um, and we were able to, um, come up to come up with an agreement. And, uh, there were times, I think, in the meeting where we didn't think an agreement was going to happen. Uh but in fact we ultimately came up with an agreement and essentially um the the large issues were um were were the costs of uh um the cost of operating up there. Your operating costs that is your electricity, your um you know your internet, your um cleaning services, your mowing and things of that nature. Um use of a sign. And essentially what's kind of been happening over the years is city's been covering that cost. Um and so we've, you know, kind of gotten to the point of saying this may not be an appropriate use of city funds to do that. And uh and by negotiating this this outcome, what what's happening here is BDM construction is going to be paying $300 a month uh for their share of electricity, internet, water, sewer, and other expenses would follow in the area of common area maintenance as well as placement of business sign. Both parties consider the road improvement deficiency would be satisfied through the application of interest that was generated off the 1.7 million purchase price in addition to the installments made by the developer and interest generated off the $2,000 installments per the contract. The city agrees not to pursue past taxes that would have been paid on that portion of the building for commercial purposes. and the city agrees um to uh the amount of 6,000 for a sewer access charge fee and 500 for water access charge fee as defined by the contract. Now, what happened is the original amounts in this contract were $6,500 and that was when the city was operating this septic system themselves and the water system um you know up there as well. And so when mech council came in and and we hooked up to the mech council system, what should have happened at that point is the contract should have been revisited to say, "Okay, this amount goes to the city. Whatever mech council charges goes to mech council, and we don't control that part of it." And that's currently how any other developer that comes into the city today, uh, this is the city's charge for sack and whack. This is me council's charge for sack. We don't control that aspect of it. But the contract was never um modified and uh and so I think there is an interest at least as far as the city is concerned is ensuring that we still follow the uh the requirements of that contract which is the 6,000 and the 500 and uh and the last point here is that BDM has agreed to u stay in the property for three years um from the signing of this agreement and um and what we'll need to actually have come before us is I was hoping that senior would be here today. Um but what we'll need to have come before us is a lease agreement essentially that that says that you know have use of the pro of the uh office space as defined by the contract and uh and kind of put a time frame on those three years and uh you know I don't think that's anything different than what this is saying here but essentially this is a non-binding letter um uh of agreement and uh non-binding letter of intent rather uh with BDM construction and And I I think it's a a win-win for both parties. I got some questions. So then I understand it right. We still get we're going to still collect 6,000 for sewer hookup, 500 for water hookup, and 2,000 for the roads. >> The 2,000 is still part of the per permit. Yeah. >> Right. I mean, it's something that I wonder when you write this, it should probably be in there because there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding between BDM, Firebird, and the city unless we can use the contract. I just don't want it to turn into another mess where they come back afterwards and go, "No, we didn't include that. We've already dealt with that forever, so we need to fix that." >> Yeah, Mr. Mr. Mayor and Council, the the contract is still in force. So, um all the requirements of that contract are still going to be adhered to. This is just uh you know, a letter of intent agreeing to essentially the $300 and that both parties agreed to the following conditions. So, >> okay. >> I think uh we should table this item for a simple respect. I just found out this afternoon that uh Mr. Mundle Senior has not even received this document. It would be nice to have a signed document to approve. I mean, he has not even seen this document. >> Okay. And I I believe at the end of our meeting, the intent was to draft the document, get it to him, and then he'd get it back. Is what? I believe Tim, wasn't it? >> Yeah, I do believe so. Yes. So, I I think we need to do due diligence here and let him get a copy of this so he can respond to any issues he has too, so we're all on the same page here before we move forward. >> Yeah, we've come this far. I don't want to screw this up. So, yeah, it's a good idea. >> I agree with that. But I I'm sure he's informed already on what's going on. But I agree. >> All right. >> So with that, I'll make a motion to table this. >> Second. >> So we got a motion second. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor? >> I opposed abstain. >> Thank you. Uh staff items. Okay. Uh, Mr. Mayor and Council, just wanted to um remind everyone of night to unite. Uh, we do have, um, quite a few properties here that, um, there's about, get my mouse here. Um, bear with me one quick second. I will pull this up and we'll put these properties on the Okay. So, for East Bethl, these properties right here and these families have agreed to um have 19 unite parties. and you'll see the time off to the right uh of when they start and like to end by. And um so if you're in that area, you want to participate in Night to Unite, that's uh that's a great opportunity. I'm assuming about talked with the fire chief, but I'm assuming that we'll have um we'll have uh fire trucks probably traveling around and the sheriff's office probably traveling around some of these as well. So, if you want to get a ride with some of those as council members or mayor, um we can certainly coordinate that. Uh I wanted to also report that Jackson Street is done. We we had some equipment parked on um in the rightway uh for well, we were delayed by rain and we received a complaint uh that uh the equipment was parked out there. I tried to assure the land owner that we're we're trying to get this wrapped up as fast as possible, but we didn't want to put the uh asphalt down while it was still um problematic to do so. But that project is done and that was the failure of the of the culvert and we got that replaced for a very reasonable cost and classic construction helped us in that project. So, we want to thank them for that. Um, and then also, uh, we had, uh, our intern was going to start today and I got an email last night that he had an emergency and wouldn't be able to start today. So, we're we're working through that to try and determine not sure what that means and uh hopefully that uh that'll work itself out. We'll be able to get that project started. That is the digitizing the paperwork uh all the files and um and getting that project underway. So, he was a student in St. cloud and needed needed a an internship to complete his degree and so he was excited to come on board and I have very limited information as to why wasn't able to start today. So, that's all I have for updates, there's questions, >> council reports. >> I got a couple things. Uh, July's planning meeting was cancelled for lack of agenda items and it looked like most all of us were all of us were at the booster days this weekend. I I think it went great. We had some new stuff there and I think it's a very good base to build on for next year and uh with that we will need volunteers. Anybody that wants to volunteer uh it's one meeting a month and it's pretty simple. But on that note, I want to thank all of the booster day volunteers on the booster day committee and the volunteers that helped with the traffic, helped with the parade, uh the city employees, Carrie Frost, the public works people that were out there giving support. And uh a huge shout out to Paula Girtz. Uh she last year we did not have a parade because we did not have volunteers. she stepped up this year and took that on herself and it it's a heck of a job. If there's one volunteer position I I would love to see filled is someone to help her so that next year's parade can be even better and longer. So I just want to give a huge shout out to her and it was a huge effort undertaking that. And uh otherwise on August 13th at 6:30 the bus day committee will be meeting for a what you call it a debriefing meeting where we will discuss how things went and how we can prove things for next year and that will be at city hall. So, that's all I have. Hope everybody has a great uh night to unite and hit some parties and meet some residents. Okay. And I want to second um Brian's commendations on booster days. Um I've heard a lot of good compliments about it. People were happy. I have heard a few negative Nellies out there and I'm just my response is you should volunteer. If you have additional ideas to make it bigger, better uh volunteer. And so there's that. The seniors are doing a night to unite from 11 to 1 over in Booster West. The city uh the council, everybody is invited. It's a potluck. Hot dogs, water will be served. Um so 11 to1 Booster West the seniors um they have their dance coming up first Friday in August. Come on out and have some fun, have some cookies and bars. Um in September it's the third Thursday is feed the city staff. So, all the fire department, the police, the city staff, come on over to the senior center and I will be reminding everybody for my the next three meetings probably, but um yep, because in the past the announcements haven't been out there. Um there was something else and I can't remember what I wanted to say. So, next meeting I guess that's all I have. >> Mr. Look, can you get the information about the seniors um party um from Suzanne and email that to all of us? >> Yep. >> Thank you. I want to say too, thank you for uh all the volunteers for booster days. I got to meet Paula. She did a great job on that parade. I'll tell you what, she was running back and forth and we kind of laughed. She's really a good person. She went all out. She did a great job. Everybody did though. But I want to have add one suggestion that when we uh got on the truck, we were given a five gallallon bucket half full of candy from the city. Next year, I'd like to have three five gallon buckets full of candy. Myself, Tim, and Suzanne, we brought candy and I'm glad we did. >> And we made it almost to the end. And I just want to put a shout out out there. I'll tell you what, when them little kids, they look and they see the candy flying, they're just so excited. It's It's just you can't imagine. It's just cool. So, if there's some that didn't get any, reach out to me because I want to make sure that you do get some because it I'll tell you, it's priceless the look on their face when they're just grabbing pieces of candy. It's just cool. That's all I got. Did you ever get your lipstick back? >> I accidentally threw her lipstick into the crowd cuz it was in the bucket. >> Some people want candy. Some people want lipstick. >> Some little girl is really happy. >> I got something to say here already if I could. And I I just want to take a moment to talk to everyone here and everyone who's watching. I want to take a moment to speak from the heart a little bit about this community. We're fortunate to live in a city that is truly a special place and I believe that and a lot of people do. You live here. A place where the the people care deeply about their neighbors and and the future we all share together. And it's natural for us to have different opinions and express them passionately. That diversity of thought is part of what makes our community a strong place to live. But when these disagreements turn personal, especially on social media, we risk losing the sight of what unites us. At the end of the day, we all want the same thing, a safe, thriving, and welcoming city for ourselves and for our families. We all make mistakes. We all Nobody's perfect. What matters is how we respond to these. And by owning up and apologizing sincerely and striving to do better, an apology should never be seen as a sign of weakness. It's a sign of strength and growth. And we need to create a culture where people can admit when they're wrong, learn from it, and move forward together. If we can't find it in ourselves to forgive and see the best in each other, we risk creating a future where division is going to oversee any shadow of progress and good things that we want to accomplish here. But if we choose understanding and compassion and unity, I don't think there's anything we can't do together. I really don't. So, just let's try and remember what makes this city a special place. Let's listen a little bit more, forgive a little bit more, and support one another a lot more. That's how we're going to build a stronger and more hopeful future for everybody in this city. >> Thank you. That's good info. Said, >> um, I just have one one deal. I got an email. Have we posted for reposted, I should say, for the planning? >> I will check on that. I believe we have a ongoing posting but I will double check. >> I just I got email on it and >> okay >> just want to make sure we're doing that. >> With that I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Second. >> I have a motion second. All those in favor say I. >> I. I. >> This meeting's adjourned. >> We have the HRE. Yep. >> Yep. Hang on one second. This is [Music] the corner. And if you go just to the west of this lot >> that goes it butts up to the >> butts up to the corner of the chair. >> It does. >> Well, no. This this one here. >> This is this is the one next to Cedar Creek. Nothing big. >> Nothing big. Just approval of minutes. >> Yeah. Next to that Cedar Creek and this is Okay. I'll call the July 28th 25 H meeting to order. Can I have a motion to adopt tonight's agenda? >> Motion to adopt tonight's agenda. >> Second. >> I have a motion to adopt agenda first and a second. Any discussion hearing? None. Proceed to vote. All in favor? >> I. >> Opposed? None heard. >> Uh the number uh three, approval of minutes. Can I have a motion to approve the minutes? >> Make a motion to approve the minutes from April 27th, 20 2025. >> Second. >> I have a first and a second on approving the minutes of April 27th, 2025. Any discussion? Hearing none. proceed to vote. All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. None heard. >> Make a motion tojourn. >> Second. >> Second. >> We have a motion to adjourn. First and a second. Any discussion? All in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Done.