5 minutes.>> All right. I now call the regular school board meeting for Forest Lake AreaSchools, Thursday, May 21st to order. Please join us while we recite thepledge of >> allegiance.I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to therepublic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty andjustice for all. >> All right, member clerk, will you pleasetake the roll call of attendance? >> Yes. All right. Member Castle>> here. >> Member Corkran>> here. >> Member Tyson>> here. >> Member Christensen>> here. >> Member Reveline>> here. >> And member Anton is here. Everybody'shere. >> All right. Great. I would entertain amotion to approve the meeting agenda. >> So moved.>> Second. >> I have a motion, a second. Is there anydiscussion? Seeing none, all those in favor signifyby saying I. >> I. Those opposed.>> All right. The motion is adopted. Brings us to scheduled and unscheduledvisitors. I do have one green card this evening. Um, Mrs. Morehead, would youlike me to read the uh preamble here or are you good?>> I'm okay. >> You've heard it a time or two.>> I did. >> Thank you. you wrote it here.>> I just have a very short observation that over the last couple of weeks,months, you've had many fine community people step up and and fill the seat,the vacant seat, and time after time, it hasn't happened. But I'm here tonight tojust ask you to please look beyond your own self and look for a someone who isvery qualified, someone maybe the community has already voted for, maybesomeone who's worked at the schools, who knows a lot. You've got a lot of goodpeople, but my my thought is it should be someone with a very short time to behere and it would be nice to have somebody that the community has maybeknown for a while and can take off on day one and and then not run. And so Ithink there are people that I would like to see run for the board, but I don'tlike to make it a little spot up. If you put him on the on theboard now, then the community has already got his name or her name,whichever. And I like them to go on their own to run for the seat. So, Ithink there's plenty of good people that could sit for the six six, seven months,whatever it is, do the job very well, and then let the community pick a newboard or whoever they choose. >> That's all.>> Thank you. >> Experience matters. I think there's athing assignment that or something. Experience matters.>> All right. That is actually an excellent segue as we move directly into the uh[clears throat] schoolboard vacancy inter interviews. I'd like to um welcomeMrs. Schroer. >> All right. So, getting to go first ofcourse always brings in the uh the nuance of how do we do this? What are wedoing? And uh exactly how we proceed. Um so earlier todayum Dr. Massie actually uh provided aquestion to the board to just kind of kick off our deliberations. So, I'llI'll bring that to your attention. And I'll just say uh Wendy, uh please take amoment to introduce yourself, including your professional background andqualifications you believe are relevant for this open board position.>> Thank you for having me. Thank you for letting me interview. Um as far as myqualifications go, I worked with the school district for 10 years. 10 years,fantastic 10 years, learned a lot about the schools and learned a lot aboutum how to believe in a system that works for the greater good as far as thecommunity goes. So, it was just a a great opportunity for me to come fromprivate business to public and get my foot in the door. >> Wonderful. Thank you for thatintroduction. And now we're all going to try to figure out where our paperworkis. It's a folder that Joy provided us. >> Um, we each have a question on here. I'mgoing to go in the order that they're they're presented on the paper here ifthat's all right with the board. Um, so we'll start with member Christensen.>> Thanks for being here this evening. >> Thank you.>> Um, what are your goals and aspirations for the school district this schooldistrict? >> Um, to have everybody see it in apositive light, more of a positive light. Um, you try and be that personthat says and personifies the the idea behind what everybody is trying to do asa team. And you just want to you want to make sure that everybody understandsthat we're here together. We want to make sure that we're working together.>> Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, member Castle,>> uh, what legacy would you like to leave as a result of your time on the schoolboard? >> O, um,the one that did it, [laughter] the one that brought everybody together,the one that that kind of made it, um, an even balancedum, great place to be. >> Thank you. U member corp>> me. Okay. Thanks for being here tonight, Wendy.>> Um if you had a really tough decision to make, how would you go about making thatdecision and what are your steps or processes?>> You just have to look at the entire picture. That's one of the things thatand I think parenting comes in handy with that. You really get to see likeall sides. They always say that there's three sides. Their side, your side, andthe truth, right? And so you always want to try and make sure that you understandwhat the actual truth is and come up with areasonable solution that way. >> Thank you.>> Thank you. >> Thank you, uh, member Antonson.>> Okay. Nice to meet you, Wendy. Thank you.>> Nice to meet you for being here. [snorts]>> Um, how important is it for you to have a trusting relationship with thesuperintendent? If it is important, how would you achieve this?>> Uh, I think it's very important. It's just like anybody working in a workingenvironment. You have to have a teamwork. You have to have thatcollaboration. You have to have that understanding and that trust. And if youdon't have that, it makes it very hard. So, you just need to make sure that youyou open yourself up to communication and to collaboration>> and that's how you would achieve it. >> That's what I would conversation.>> Okay. Thank you. >> No problem.All right. Thank you, >> Member Tyson.>> Yes. Well, Wendy, thank you for applying a problem.>> Your resume is impressive, and we appreciate you going to the work andbeing here tonight and putting in the time. It's really wonderful to see you.>> Okay. My question is, what would you intend your major contributionswould be to Forest Lake Area Schools? um helping the communityunderstand a lot more about what happens. Um being a little bit on thetransparent side on the on the side of making sure that it's a an equalconversation. Um you always have those conversations that are a little bittougher and you don't tend to have that equal, but you try and equal it out thebest way you can. And so you just want to make sure that youtry and bridge a gap, I guess, is the best way to put it.>> Very good. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. Um that brings usto our final question here. Um for me, uh briefly describe the kind ofrelationship you want to have with your fellow board members.>> Um I want to have a collaboration and um open communication. I want to havesomething where people are safe to talk, safe to talk about their their opinions,their positions. Um, you don't always have to agree, but you always want tohave that open mind and come to a resolution that is forthe school, not for your own personal ideals.>> All right. Wonderful. Thank you. Yeah. >> Um, so now I have a question for theboard. We had originally decided we were going to ask six questions. We weregoing to give three minutes per question. We moved through that>> pretty briskly. >> Do we want to give umuh Mrs. Schroeder an opportunity to ask us questions? Do we want to move on tothe next candidate? How do we want to>> I think we should let Miss Mrs. Schroeder ask us a question if she hasquestions. >> And we're not doing two questions,right? Our own. >> Correct. We are just doing what wedecided upon in the meeting a couple of weeks ago is we were just going to askthese six >> and then we were going to move on to thenext candidate. But uh I feel like that >> that's gone really fast.>> Really fast. >> Quick answer.>> Sorry. [laughter]>> This is a good problem to have. >> It is very good problem.>> Like I said, you get to go first. So you get to handle the logistics side things.Yeah. >> Um if we are going to um allow Mrs.Schroer to ask us a question, should we handle that in the same manner that wedid with the superintendent where um we allow her to pose us question and thenwe just go around the room and uh kind of maybe the same order as we askedquestions. >> Yeah, sounds good. Good idea.>> Is that agreeable? >> All right. In that case, the floor isyours to ask us a question and uh member Christensen will start with the answers.>> Okay. All right. Um, as far as a question goes, I was justconcerned about the ones coming to me, not the ones coming out of [laughter]me, right? Um, I guess >> putting you on the spot.>> Yeah. Yeah, that's okay. My I guess I do have a question, but I have a questionmore for the entire board if that's >> that question will be will go to eachboard member. >> Each board member to answer. Okay.>> To answer it. >> Yeah. Okay. So then, how do you findworking with the school board? um to come up with a solution. It it's it'sright now we have such a split and I want to try and put together thatopportunity to say let's not be as split. Let's have more of acommunication. Do you find that that is more of a challenge or do you find thatthat is something that you feel safe having a conversation about in theschoolboard? Like do you feel like you can talkwhen you're on the school board? >> Uh you mean like as an individual boardmember? >> Like as an individual board member?>> Um um yes. I feel like um that we the boardhas their uh power if the word is right as a collective. I don't have any morepower or sway than any other member on the board. And so I think uh yeah wehave to work collectively to come to agreement and and I and you know we'vehad this discussion you know um if we're a dysfunctionalboard or if we are um a functioning a well functioning six member board Ithink if I think if the question or the topic isthe the the handling of the school the paying the bills the the agreeing on anew superintendent the um you know kind of the normy things that a school boarddoes. I think I think that we can come to agreement with things and I thinkthat we can work together. Um I think where we uh struggle a little bit is ummaybe with some things that are not uhum maybe like directly related to the running of the school. maybe more ofuh societal issues or cultural issues or those kinds of things. When we kind ofwade into those waters, I feel like is where we have um some difficulty. But umI feel like I can speak on my mind. I think everyone here can. You know, wewere elected by a certain segment of the um of the electorate to be the voice.There's only six of us here, seven uh soon. And uh yeah, we're we're we'reelected to speak. I mean, maybe sometimes I'm nervous or I don't knowwhat to say or I don't want to say some, you know, but but um I think once you'reon the board, you find your voice if you didn't, you know, already find it andyou realize that there's people that elected you to do the business and to tosay things um and to speak your mind. So yeah, thank you. That's a goodthoughtful question. >> It was.>> Thank you, >> member Castle. And please state thequest the question again. Basically, do you feel safe in conversations here onthe board when it's something that is either opposing or something that maybeI guess maybe the way I'll put it is something that you feel you'restronger on than others? Do you feel safe in bringing that up in the schoolboard? >> As an adult, I don't feel unsafe inspeaking whatsoever. That's something that children haveproblems with that we need to bring them out of.So [clears throat] feeling safe is not an issue.It's the f folks that when you go out and campaign and and the folks give youtheir perspective on how things are going and this is what we are this iswhat I was elected for to bring these things toa point and to have them be discussed and to eliminate the things that theydon't want or attempt to and bring in things that they do want or attempt to.And this is what a republic does.We are not a democracy. We are a republic.And so we do as we are elected to do by the public that elected us.[clears throat] >> Um member Corker.>> Oh, me next. Okay. um to what Jill had said about beingelected to represent a certain group of people that uh believed in you andyou're trying to be the voice for many when you're only one. Um and as a boardI believe, you know, we all are here to to do the best we can and and to try tomake things better. We might have different viewpoints about certainthings. I I feel like the brain of the school district, I believe we all aredoing a good job with that. I believe that as a sec six member board we'rewe're doing a good job. Um and we do run into some issues about things that areoutside the line. Uh policy changes, things that are unexpected. Um maybe alittle surprising at times. I think that I don't like surprises and I I uh Istruggle with them and I don't always agree and I think that is where thingscan go a little badly for me. Um, but I believe we still have voices and we canspeak our mind and and we normally, you know, if it's a three- three vote, it'sa three-3 vote um at this time, but there's a lot of times we have 60 votes.I mean, when we believe in the same things and we're running the schooldistrict. So, um, yeah. So, I feel like everybody has their voice and I believewe all we all feel comfortable to share how we feel and I don't think we'reintimidated by that at all. So, um, we're just, we all can be pretty strongadvocates for what we believe in >> lately. I feel like it's been [laughter]I've been pretty strong advocate a lot lately. So, um, but I think that's whatpeople expect and and I think, uh, the community expects that from us.>> Thank you for the question. >> Thank you.>> Yeah, >> Anderson.>> Oh, okay. Do I feel safe? Um,I agree with some of the things everybody has said so far. MemberChristensen says and you know there are just a lot of general business typethings that really you don't have much to argue about. Um there's not a wholelot of reason to disagree on. Um so in that aspect it's straightforward. Umwhere it gets tricky is like member Corkran just said she doesn't likesurprises. I mean, you know, there were multiple elections in the last, youknow, six years and it created new board members at the table and we are electedby people in the public and that does not mean that umwhat I hear sometimes is, you know, that those issues don't exist. We don't havethat here. Well, I'm here to say that we do have these issues. People are tellingme that we have these issues. They are concerned about these issues. and youdon't get to just say that they don't exist because you don't like hearingabout it. And that's what happens a lot up here. So, um, feeling safe, I mean,there's no real threat to speaking it except for, you know, groups of peopleout there that some members of the board may or may not be affiliated with thatare, you know, calling you names and calling themselves pillars and leadersof the community. So, do I feel safe? I feel safe enough. Um,there have been issues and it's not necessarily easy when thesecontroversial issues come up, but they need to get talked about. That's why I'msitting here. >> Thank you, Member Tyson.>> Yeah. Well, Tina, >> can I I apologize. Can I just redirectjust a little bit because I just don't want to emphasize the word safe. I guessI just was saying safe area, safe conversation. I'm not saying do you feelthreatened in your own space? What I'm trying to say is do you feel like youcan have a free conversation? I don't feel like that that was taken that way.>> Oh, >> and I want to kind of redirect that justa little bit. >> Yeah.>> So, >> does anybody who's already answered wantto provide a >> Yeah.>> clarification? >> No, I think I answered it.>> No. Okay. Member Tyson. >> Yeah. So, thank you Wendy for clarifyingthat. And that was kind of my takeaway from your question. And again, we'reputting you on the spot making you come up with a question. So, you're doinggreat. Don't think that you're not. So, anyway, for me, the main thing is we area collective board. Um, we're all the same. We're all equal. Nobody'sdifferent, right? I'm in my fourth term. So, you kind of learnexpectations of your constituents that I elected you. You kind of learn what theywant to talk about. they come back around and revisit conversations aboutdifferent things to do with our school district and priorities. So, there's alot of learning about governance, good communication, communication styles, youknow, you learn all those things over the years. And um I think part of thedivision can come when we're not being a collective board. And that that reallyis important to understand that everyone's elected equal. We need to allbe good listeners, respectful. We don't get to, you know, do things withpolicies. We need to talk about them. They need to go through proper channels.So, it's just kind of a learning curve that comes withbeing in the system and being a board member, going to trainings, learningthings, learning from colleagues from other boards, learning from otherpeople, peers in other districts, and families in other districts at whenyou're at events. So, you know, feeling safe. Yeah. You know, it's kind of mystyle to be out there with people that go to our district, to be listening tothem, to be available to them, and um it's just part of having a communicationwith everyone on the board and a communication with the district atlarge. So, that answer your question? >> Yes, it did. Very well.>> Good job with your question. [laughter] >> No, I I think it was an excellentquestion and I too. >> I think I probably captured your intentbehind the question when you you first gave it. So, I've been kind of thinkingabout it as I've been going through this and um I have a unique perspectivebecause of the chair that I sit in. Um it's my job to kind of conduct themeeting and try to be as um neutral as possible while conductingconversation, but especially in a 33 board that becomes contentious because Ihave a say in the matter as well. And there's been times over the pastprobably seven or eight months especially where if I would have changedmy mind, I could have conducted the meeting differently. I I think back tothe the evening where we had a broken quorum. If I would have said, "Nope, I Iagree with three board members that we shouldn't have the special order ofbusiness, that we should not prioritize this." I had that prerogative to changemy vote. And that's where I go back to your do I feel safe maybe isn't the bestword, but do I feel safe to express my opinion? That's where I express myopinion. Um I thought it was the better approach to keep that that rule thatwe'd agreed upon in place and actually get the work done and move on. So, um Ithink that just fits kind of my my personality. I'm I'm direct. SometimesI'm too direct. And I hear board members say they they don't like surprises. So,I try to provide information and the risk in providing that information isthat um I mean just a few weeks ago I I said this is the way I'm voting tonight,but if things don't work out in a way to to set the next superintendent up forsuccess, even though I support his hire and I I'm spending countless hourshelping write that contract, I might vote against the contract because Idon't want to set him up for failure. Andin in times like that, I think there's an occasional lack of respect foranother's opinion because it there's an attack rendered back against you. It'snot a I understand your perspective. How do we get through that? It's a well, onehas nothing to do with the other. So, how dare you link those things? Well, inmy mind, they're linked. So, if they're not in your mind, help me get over thathurdle because maybe maybe it's my problem. And if I'm willing to admitthat maybe it's my problem, maybe you can help me get over that hurdle. Butwhen you attack the opinion and and maybe it's personality flaw, mymy own. I have a tendency to dig in rather than to open up and and bewilling to accept new ideas. And and I think I've seen that play out. And andthis is the reason I why I bring it up, why I say it out loud is a I feel safetalking to the the other five board members here and telling them what Ithink. I think we're all a little bit of a victim of that is when there isdisagreement around this table rather than helping others get on board. Wekind of dig in and attack a little bit and that that just solidifies ourpositions and and that's not beneficial because uh I do believe that all six ofus are here and and eight I'll include Dr. Massie and Joy here is well, we'rehere to put students first and do right by the community. We all want successfulschools. I I've never doubted that. Uh about any of the other board memberssitting here, any of the other board members that I served with, any otherother board members that have ever served here at Forest Lake Area Schools,I don't think there's a single one of them that has ever been here that havesaid, "I I don't want students to be successful. I don't want there to be,you know, a fiscal responsibility. I don't want the community to come along.we all do and and I think that's the uh the foundation that we need to kind ofpull back to every once in a while and help one anothersee things through a different lens to to reach that end goal in the mostefficient manner. And asas the board chair with some of the reactions, a lot of times I do feel likeI'm threading a needle on what I can or can't say from this position whiletrying to remain some level of neutrality. Um I've approached thisprocess in the past of um just trying to sit back and say, "Look, I'm open to Ithink all the candidates have been been beneficial." Um I don't know if that'sbeen that's been good or bad. We haven't gotten the work done. So, um we'll seehow I approach it this evening if I lobby behind somebody or not. But, uh Ithink communication amongst the six of us is we're all willing to speak ourminds and I think that's good. >> That's good. I would agree.>> Well, if nobody has anything to clarify with their answer, we can uh I'd like tothank Mrs. Sharter for coming in and applying.>> Thank you. Thank you. And we are a little ahead of schedule. Is >> Templeton here.>> Thanks. [clears throat]>> Thanks. Get the other two. Welcome, Mrs. Templ.>> You uh >> are fortunate enough to be our secondperson here. So, we have a little bit of the logistics,>> okay, >> kind of figured out. So, I have anopening question that I'll ask uh just to kind of give you yourself a littlebit of an introduction. >> Okay.>> And then we have a number of uh pre-anned questions um that are preparedfor you to answer. >> Okay.um and we'll go through each board member um to ask those questions. Andthen if there's time at the end, you'll have about three minutes for eachquestion. If there's time at the end though, and we're running a little bitahead of schedule, so there might be um we'll give you an opportunity to ask theboard a question. >> Okay?>> And uh then we'll go through the same order board members wise, and eachanswer your question based on our perspective.>> Okay? >> Um if that makes sense, I'll kick thingsoff with our first question. Um, please take a moment to introduce yourself,including your professional background and qualifications you believe arerelevant for this open board position. >> Okay. Um, Tracy Templeton. I am anautism specialist with school district 916, Intermediate School District 916,which I'm sure you're all familiar with. >> Um, I have been there for this is my31st year. I was recognized for 30 years because, as we know, school calendarsare a little unique in that way. Um I started off as a setting for autism orclassroom teacher with working with high school setting for EBD students. Umbecame really interested in autism and went back to school to be an autism tobecome an autism specialist through a master's program at St. Thomas and havesince consulted to a number of member school districts. So, I was in ColumbiaHeights um for a lot of years, 16 years, and then I was um back at 916 programsfor a year and then in Spring Lake Park to help them get started with somesetting three programs for three years. And then when they were off and running,um I've been able to be back at 916 at our setting four program in White BearLake at South Campus, which is now Mariner Middle School. Um, I believewhat I would bring to the board is a long history of working with families umin a really collaborative way. I Ibelieve it's really important to center um family voice when we're thinkingabout decision- making within schools and um listening to what theirexperiences are with um their their school experiences and and what theybring to the table and what it really is, what priorities their family has.and then of course centering that student voice and then the educators andthen again the school and the the educators and in the um leadershipwithin schools. So, I've had an opportunity to work with probably rightaround 60 different school schools and just have felt like that has been reallyan amazing um way to um to gain to gain a wealth of understanding andinformation from a variety of backgrounds.>> All right. Thank you. Uh Member Christensen, would you like to kick usoff with our questions? >> Yeah, thanks for being here thisevening. I appreciate you >> taking the time. Um, what are your goalsand aspirations for this school district?>> I um love Forest Lake schools. I have had four kids that have gone throughForest Lake schools um along with my my husband who was a graduate of ForestLake as well um long time ago. And I just really believe that as a communitythat is growing and the demographic is changing that making sure that we areincluding um the lived experiences of all of the people within our spaces. UmI also believe that we can continue to do better with universal design forlearning and making school accessible for all of our learners. um with astrong background in special education, I believe I would would bring a lot ofum knowledge and ideas that that could be um you know really forward thinkingin terms of of um universal design for learning and um support a diverse groupof learners. And what I learned in consulting is when you support ourstudents with special needs, you support all of your learners because anythingthat works well for a student with with a um unique um or high support needhelps students with other needs as well. So, it's been um a fun collaboration forme with general ed and special education kind of blended.>> Thank you very much. Member Castle.>> Uh, what legacy would you like to leave as a result of your time on the schoolboard? >> I really feel strongly about being aperson that listens more than I talk and just takes in information and makesdecisions based on what I see as for the greater good of the community. Um andjust my um my title for years has been advocate. And so how do we bringadvocacy work to a school board to make sure that we are not just thinking aboutthe people sitting in this room, but that we're thinking about the the peoplewithin our community that are directly impacted by the decisions made. Becausereally a great school makes a great community. As all of you know, if youyou all own homes here. So, if you were ever to go to sell your home, that wouldbe a question people would be asking is is where would I where would I want toeducate my own children? And and I believe Forest Lake has a great school,but continue can continue to move into the 21st century with with um innovationand all of those pieces. >> Thank you.>> Thank you, >> Member Corker.>> Well, thank you for being here tonight. I appreciate you coming. Um, if you hada really tough decision to make, how do you go about making the decision andwhat are your steps or processes? >> Because of the kind of work I do, I workoff of a lot of an awful lot of data um all decisions within um assessment and Ihave [snorts] probably done over a thousandassessments um special education assessments over the the 20 years thatI've been doing that. um we use data really really intentionally and then wealso use the um interviews with with families andparents and with educators and and observing within spaces. So I do a lotof taking information in and then looking at the data and then making adecision based on what makes the most sense. I also believe you put a group ofpeople around a table with different expertise, you have an opportunity to beable to to lean in and listen and understand what their perspective is,why it might be different than yours, and how you could work with thatinformation to um to make a maybe a different decision or or you can decidethat um you can collaborate your decisions together and do somethingthat's sort of a hybrid of what you're both both are after for for um aresolution. So, lots of data. >> I'm like sort of a data geek. Yeah.Thank you, [laughter] >> member Anderson.>> Hello, Tracy. Nice to meet you. >> Nice to meet you.>> Um my question is, how important is it for you to have a trusting relationshipwith the superintendent? If it is important, how would you achieve this?I well there there would be no part of my job that I could achieve withoutwithout support from leadership within schools. So I have made it um a practiceto build that rapport and that relationship through through my actions.Um I believe that any anyone in leadership trusts you when they see thatyou do what you're say you say you're going to do you follow through andyou're a person that can be trusted. Um I have had very strong relationshipswith with um various people in leadership, principles, umsuperintendent, and it and it really has been through just that relationshipbuilding and and centering that teachers that feel supported by someone whoconsults within their classroom. that trickles down and leadership hearsit and then they have they have confidence in what you're doing and theycome to you and and have that conversation. And I would say the numberone thing in my evaluations has been um feedback around the relationships I'vebuilt with the people that I support. >> Okay.>> Thank you. >> Member Tyson.>> Yes. Well, Tracy, thank you for coming tonight and for being [clears throat]willing to interview and provide all the information you did.>> Um, really glad to see you here tonight. >> Um, here's my question. What would youintend your major contributions would be to Forest Lake Area Schools? >> Some of that I've answered, I feel likein other questions a little bit, but I I because of having um a background withinum K through K12 systems and special education as well as higher ed. So I Ialso am an adjunct instructor at Hamlin University and have been doing that for14 years >> and I have um a lot of what we've donein our higher ed settings is work on how are we going to bring people into thefield and then how are we going to retain them in the field of education.>> And I really feel like Forest Lake has a great history of of longevity with a lotof teachers. I can say that because some of my kids had teachers my husband had.So that was just like wow that's amazing. But I I think that that senseof teacher retention we're we're in a really um challenging time we know in inthis era of of how do we keep and attract teachers to the field? How do wemake them feel like they're part of a community? And I think Forest Lake doescan do that well. And I but I think we can continue to do better with thatbecause if you care about your community as a teacher, we often just stay we stayin that role because we love the building, the school, the teachers, thefamilies, the administrators, all of those pieces become an important piecein that. And I and I really feel like through my work with the statewideleadership group, which retention is a big piece of that, um, higher ed andthen within the K12 systems. And then I think just having a really goodunderstanding of of K12 systems and and all of those operating>> um, budget kinds of things that that go into decision making. And we know thatit has to spread across and and there's only so much, right? So, thank you foryour help. >> Wow. Thank you for that.>> All right. Thank you. Um, briefly describe the kind of relationship youwant to have with your fellow board members.>> I would want a relationship that was collaborative. Um, and I I believe thatstarting from a place of respect that we can respect that there will be timeswhere we um agree to disagree. Um, that we aren't we aren't coming from the samelived experience and therefore we're not going to see something in the same way.Um, I would want to be heard as much as I'm willing to listen. So, um, I reallyfeel like I'm I'm good at that. I'm good at listening, sitting back, and andobserving. I'm a very strong observer of um human behavior. Being an autismspecialist, I do an awful lot of that. Um, soI I would just center the relationship and making sure that that whe even attimes where things um because I describing a special education table, wehave a whole lot of people, sometimes as many as 15 and you're very clearly attimes going to have a difference of opinion with somebody at the table. Butour goal at the end of it is to meet our students needs. And the only way we canmeet our students needs is to figure out where we can share common ground.>> And and in those in those conversations, I've learned a lot the first year doingthat. I I would would think, gosh, I want it to go this way. But then Ilearned a lot about what somebody else brought to that conversation that Icould think about and consider. And then how could we we can both win? we canboth get this kid what they need, these students what we they need, and thesefamilies, quite frankly, because what happens at in the classroom happens atthe dinner table. These families are going home and they're they're havingfeelings and conversations about what's going on. And um I just really believethat a group of people that are around a table that have the power to make thatbetter then we should figure out a way to come to some common ground on that.So relationship and then um collaboration would beprobably my two s central tenants. >> Wonderful. Um Joy I believe we do havetime umfor Mrs. Templeton to ask us a question. Is that correct?>> You've got 11 minutes.>> 11 minutes. >> Perfect.>> All right. Okay. >> Let's be concise with our answers then.Um, what question do you have for the board and we'll start with memberChristensen on answering that, but we'll each answer the same question.>> How about we start at the bottom and work our way up?>> Um, we can do that as well >> or somewhere. I don't want to I don't Ianswered the first question the first time. I'm not I don't want to answer thequestion the first question every time. >> Sure. We'll we'll work in reverse order.I'll answer the question the first time and then uh>> point. >> Okay. Uh what are you looking for forsomebody that would enter this board? What is what are some qualities thatyou're that you're hoping to see? >> That that's a great question. I actuallyaddressed this with one of our superintendent uh candidates as well.And I think the big thing that I'm looking for is somebodysomebody who we who we can really trust come in and help us build thoserelationships. That's somebody who's served the community, who's got the thereputation of coming in and really umhelping build bridges and can handle conflict and who understands leadershipat a high level and um can help. the the last question I answered was about uh umyou know you you just kind of hit on it respect being respectful of boardmembers understanding that maybe their opinion isn't the same as yours or maybetheir perspective is different and um rather than attacking that perspectiveor or that opinion helping build that bridge of understanding of okay I see itdifferently and here's why rather than I see it differently and you're wrong. Ithink there's a big difference there. So, so I think that's kind of the thebig thing I would be looking for in a a seventh board member is is somebodywho's not necessarily coming in to to really mix things up or worried about abalance of power and what's my affiliation going to be, but somebodywho's going to come in and and recognize their role is to help us make decisionsthat put students in the community first.>> Thank you. >> Um, so we'll move to member Tyson then.>> Yes, I'm next. Um, well, we all know, Tracy, how important diversity ofthought is, right? And we know as a district a lot of complicated thingsthat we've done and things that we've accomplished over the years. We have tobring groups together. >> And our superintendent has been reallygood at that. Bringing people together to get that diversity of thought in theroom so that exactly what you said, you can find common ground. And so I'mlooking for that person to have have that that can be trustworthy,um, transparent, that can help find that common ground. So, as you said, then wecan all win and we can be successful and we can do what's important for thestudents in our district because that's why we're here.>> So, those are kind of my tenants. trust and um having that person just be thatbridge that can help um build that common ground so that we can win. We cancontinue to move our district forward. >> Thank you, Member Tyson. We'll move toMember Antinson. >> Well, I mean, you can'tdisagree with collaboration and building trust in relationships. I don't know what else I could even saythat I would be asking for. I mean to me those are the utmost importanceand I and I unfortunat I mean I think it's hard tosecure uh what's the word I'm looking for solidify that in this tiny shortlittle interviews with one question each that we're doing. And you know, they'renot even our questions, but um definitely someone that has conflictresolution experience. >> Um and someone who is willing to notonly not fight another's opinion, but um not to grade them for it>> and yeah, to be respectful.>> Thank you. >> Member Corker. Um, yeah, great question.Um, to me, I think we need a board member tobe open-minded, coming in here with um, positive attitude. Um,>> I like the word respectful and collaboration. That's what we try to be.But I think um, just I mean, everyone comes in with their life experience,right? Everybody has how they feel. They have strong opinions about things. Butwhen you sit at the table, you kind of have to not you're representing not justyourself, you're representing the whole community. So that at times is difficultto do. But I think coming in here, especially with a lot of things that arevery >> usually very confrontational lately. Um,but having that open-mindedness to look at all sides and and trying to do what'sright for the community and for our students because I said it's not aboutus. We're just here to set policy and trying to make the district as strong asit can be. So that's what I'm looking for is that relationship builder,open-minded person, and respectful and collaborator. So all the things youspoke about, but yeah, very well said. Thank you.>> I heard I heard years ago, and it was a great thing to hear as an educator,assume positive intent >> going in. And it it changed like it wasearly on in my consulting and it really changed my>> my thought about a family that sat down at the table that maybe felt like theywere, you know, really frustrated. How do we, you know, how do we keep bridgingthat conversation until we can come to a place where everyone feels good? So,yeah. >> Very good. Yeah. Yeah.>> All right. Member Castle. >> Um, every everything that everybody saidis right on board. >> [clears throat]>> Um but as as I think mostly is that the you representing the the people in thecommunity for the best education for the students.>> The whole purpose of the school is to educate the students. Everything else issecond to that. >> It can support it but the education isthe is the biggest thing. So we need to put things in place and agree or and aswe when we make decisions they need to be focused on so that the students canbe an independent person when they leave the system and the least they can relyon anyone else then the better the job that we have done.>> Yeah, absolutely. Independence is always a goal for my students for sure.>> Yeah. >> All right. Member Christensen. Yeah,thank you. Um, a lot of this, you know, respect, collaboration, all thosethings. But, um, one thing that I'm really looking for is experience. Imean, this is going to be a short-term position, approximately six months,>> uh, because once someone is appointed, I think there's a 30-day window orsomething. So, um, this is a short, um, position. And so, I'm really looking forsomeone who knows kind of the lingo, knows, um, you know, the schools, knowsmaybe some of the players. I mean, not that you can't learn them, but you know,someone who is familiar and has experience um in education. That'sreally what I'm looking for because, you know, we'veum seen a lot of really great um candidates and um but for me, you justkind of need to hit the ground running and you know, there's so many acronymsand all those things. So, it would just be really nice. we have a lot of thingsum coming up to just have a board member. Yeah, I know what that is and Ican speak to that because I've done that or you know I've been around that. Andso that's that's really what I'm looking for. And also someone uh you know withjust a really professional demeanor, calm, you know, respectful the waythey're speaking and um yeah, that's that's really what I'm looking for.Thank you. >> Thank you.>> Yeah. >> Thank you so much for coming in, Mrs.Temple. >> Thank you.>> Nice to meet you, Tracy. Thanks Tracy. >> Thank you.>> Thank you for the opportunity. >> All rightJoy, we will move on to Mr. >> Sever. >> Suborder. [clears throat] >> 25. >> Oh, I see. Okay. So 25 is what I keeptrack of. So 751 is when we'll start and then 25. Okay. >> 25.>> Dr. Seor, >> welcome.>> Well, thank you. >> We have uh figured out some of ourlogistical challenges of working through these. Um so I'll just kind of give youa little uh recap on how this this has been working here. Um I have kind of anopening question and it's more of just an opening introduce yourself and thenwe go through six questions. >> Sure.>> And uh um you'll have three minutes to respond to each question. If there'stime left over, which there has been the first two interviews, um you'll have theopportunity to ask the board a question and we'll each go around and answer itindividually for you. >> All right,>> that make sense? >> Yeah, reasonable.>> All right, so I'll all things start things off. Uh Dr. Sab Sabard>> Seard >> Savor Okay. Um Dr. Savor, welcome. Uhplease take a moment to introduce yourself, including your professionalbackground and qualifications you believe are relevant for this open boardposition. >> Um I've had extensive uh educationalexperience. I've uh got three degrees um a bachelor's, a master's, and ofcourse DDS. Um, I started out in chemicalengineering. I found out I I like chemistry a lot,but I don't like chemical engineering at all. I like talking. I like discussingthings with people. And uh I didn't know I had a problemuntil the the department caught on fire and I trying to stop the firemen andbribe them with coffee and donuts to give me stories becauseI I enjoy the conversation. I enjoy people.I uh enjoy working through problems. Um, I'm a communicator and uh there's twotwo people that are the best communicators.One is dentists and the other is hairdressers.>> And and I fit in with both and I have both as patients.So, um anyway, um I'm here basically to help out. Um I've been here before. Iunderstand the lingual the the the ling linguistics. I understand the theproblems. I understand the schools and the the situations they have and whatthe teachers are going through. Um I'm here basicallyat your call. In other words, I would hope that youwould you would use me as a sounding board and you would say, "What do youthink of doing this?" And I would probably say,"What is your intent? Tell me how you want to do this." And I would illustratethat by by telling you that um dentists are also big in art.I mean, pretty much every dentist that I know can carve, can paint, can do thingswith with very artistically. And I invite you over to the office andgive you a lecture if you wanted some sometime. But you can do dark on lightor light on dark and it's a totally different effect depending on what youreally want to do. Now, why do I throw that out? Because you might say we gotthis money and we want to do this and then say okay what do you really want todo with it? I mean what is the effect that you want to have done and that isthat's an important criteria in terms of the boardum because everything is on outcome and we have limited resources to dealwith everything and so we want to have efficient use of that.>> Okay. >> All right. Thank you.>> Thank you >> member Christensen.>> Yeah. Thank you for being here this evening. Um, what are your goals andaspirations for this school district? >> Um, accountability.Um, I have had four kids that went through school here. Um, they pro they did okay. Now, the it'sit's interesting. Uh the guys, my two or three I have three boys. Two of the boysdid okay. By that I mean like B students, but theyshould have been A students, but they weren't.And they didn't blossom until afterwards. My my son um Paul ended upbeing number one academic for the entire Navy>> when he went in. So number one in everything. And yet he wasn't number onehere. And I I didn't understand what his issue was, but you know, it just is whatit is. And then Dave on the other hand, if you knew Dave, Dave isMr. Genius. Literally speaks fluent Spanish. He he basically could doanything. Um be a student. And I said they when I was on the board, they cameto me, the teachers, and said, "I'm gonna give him a B, but he deserves anA, but he doesn't turn any homework in." And I go, "Dave, did you turn did you doa homework?" And he goes, "Yeah." I said, "But you didn't turn it in." No,it didn't seem important. Now, I can't explain that except that hebecame when he went graduated finally and I I cracked the whip on himbasically and said, "No car, you know, you're going to get a certain amount.You're going to do this." Um, he basically became an A++student. He um he he learned to be a EKG tech by reading a book.>> He passed their test and became certified in Floridabasically just by reading a book. >> When they found out that that he coulddo that, they tried to recruit him hard to be a nurse because he learn he'sSpanish. He can do translation. In the middle of the night, he fit in like gangbusters. And they said, "Where did you where did you whathospital did you work at?" He said, "I worked at Target." And they said, "Yeah,I have a hospital." >> He goes, "No, no, I was in bicycles.">> That's a truth. But the point I'm trying to make is is that there's some kids,and I could verify that and vouch for it, that get overlooked, that don'treally flourish. And I I would like to see more accountability.>> Thank you. >> Thank you. U member Castle,>> what would you like to leave [clears throat]as a result? What legacy would you like to leave as a result of your time on theschool board? >> What I Okay, what I'm looking for hereis to help you guys. I don't expect that I won't want to run uh next election.I'm here to basically uh to be somebody that has done thisbefore that had doesn't have to ask questions and bother you with trivia. Ican step in and and do any slot that's available here and do it and understandit. Uh but the big thing I think I would contribute to is isexplain what your intent is and have it flesh fleshed out to me. So I would be asounding board basically for everybody and it would be as a confidentiality.I don't go and spread things around. I'm not running to the paper. Even though even though they like news,I'm not here to spread gossip. I'm here to basically look and try to improve.And I think there is room for improvement. Um I wish my kids hadgotten a little bit more. I wish they had gotten a scholarship, either ofthem, but it didn't happen. Uh,I I guess that's that's my intent. I have no ulterior motives.And like I said, I'm I'm here for one thing, one short stint to kind of bail aposition out where where I've already had the experience to do it.That make sense? >> Thank you. Thank you, Member Corker.>> Hi there. Thank you for coming tonight for the interview. Um, if you have areally tough decision to make, how do you go about making that decision andwhat are your steps or processes? >> You know, that's a that's a really goodquestion because umI me I would be looking for me >> because you it's it's hard to come intoa position that you all occupy and just sit down and start doing it.Um you have interactions with students, you have interactions with parents, youhave interactions with faculty, you have interaction with administration and allof them are pertinent and all of them are part of your your structuraluh network that you really have to you have to they have to feel likethey're united with you. And um and that's a hard thing to get if you'reonly there for 6 months or a year. >> Does that make sense?>> Definitely. >> All right. Member Antonson. >> Hi again, Irv. Nice to meet you tonightand thanks for coming. >> Thank you. Mhm. Um, how important is itfor you to have a trusting relationship with the superintendent? If it isimportant, how would you achieve this? >> Well, I think that's the most importantthing you can do. Um, in my my time, I've run into my first stint. Um, I ranbecause the people that were running were I call them borderline incompetent.And um I just really they were running for the wrong reasons. And I I reallyfelt that that the school and the administration needed people to talk.And so I basically introduced myself to the administration. And they said, "Whodo you represent?" Me? No. No. Who what group do yourepresent? And I said, "I I don't represent a group. I represent me.Well, you're not going to get elected. Well, I did and I got three terms out ofit. It's it's I don't mean to I was an anomalybecause there were there were groups sometimes that had you you had a clickthat basically had a group. And the problem with that sometimes is is thatis that in communication, especially with administration, it's tough.And I was viewed as I'm all by myself, so I don't matter.But I did. >> I did.>> I p I persevered. And that's probably the best word I cansay. I persevered. Well, thank you.>> Thank you, Member Tyson. >> Yes.Thank you for willing your willingness to fill out your application and be apart of our process tonight. So, here's my question.>> Sure. >> What do you intendyour major contributions would be to Forest Lake Area Schools? for lack of a better word, I'll just saycommunication, openness. Um,I I defend you guys. I defend the the [clears throat]teachers. I defend the students. I defend thefaculty. And I've run into all those scenarios. I could give you I couldwrite a book honestly and some of them were pretty profound things thathappened and I was the in my particular circumstances I was the only one thatventured forth sied forth to the fight so to speak. Um but it was importantthat I I felt I needed to do that. Um, everybody needs an explanationand sometimes rumors get around in the community that are wrong and um,you you as a group need to be defended and I don't mind doing that. >> Thank you. Um, briefly describe the kindof relationship you want to have with your fellow board members.I hope it would be very colleial. Um, you know, it's it's umI have a different background than probably most of you do. Heavy medical.I I took everything. I did three separate uh gross anatomy courses andand I did it for a reason because I really really really really wanted tolearn. And so, you know, I bring uh some things background in, but that doesn'tmean that I I don't have I don't like art or I don't like uh communications orI don't like um other things and and I I would gladly talk with you and and tryto understand whatever it is you're presenting to me because umI'm still learning. I'm still bringing forth things. Um, you know, this is not probably the timeor place and you guys don't want to get bored, but I could really give you somelectures that you'd like. I think [laughter] >> does that answer your question?>> I think it does. >> Yeah.>> Um, Joy, how are we doing for time? >> We have 10 minutes.>> We have 10 minutes. Wonderful. Um, >> do you have a question for the board?>> Um, no, not really. The the big thing I Iguess I would say is come in with an open mind on me if I'm I'm the onethat's that's uh perseveres here. Um, u I'd be glad to give you a a CV andshow you what I published. I've published quite a bit. I've gotten u anew drug through the FDA. which is no small thing.>> I was told that it couldn't be done. It I did it. I did the research.Um I did the studies the the dog studiesand I say that with I know everybody is doesn't likedog studies but you have to sometimes do something before you do it on a humanand you have to be invited into do doing dog studies. It's not a thing you justwalk in and do. You have to be invited and then you have to do good things. Youcan't maltreat the dogs because it's a big deal if something happens. It'sit's it's suicide in terms of of of your career. Never leaves you. It's it's likeyou have a a stink on you and and so you you have to choose your things that youdo very carefully. Um I did and I did some really great things but it'sbasically because I was in the right I I I was talking to Mark when Mark came in.Mark and I started out delivering [snorts] papers.I delivered papers for the for the Tribune. And why did I do because it wasearning money and it was the first thing I could do at 12 years old where I coulddo it. And I did it so well that the supervalueguy hired me because I was the only guy that he ever had that put him in thedoor and close the door and he didn't have to chase the paper in theshrubbery. And then the the the dairy guy basicallysaw me running stuff in from the from the uh food from the from the red owland he said, "Come work for me." Well, okay. It's it's the story of my life isone thing leads to another leads to another. And because I really put myeffort in doing it, I fit in somewhere.Somewhere different. Little bit different. a little different.When I came transferred up here, I I was transferred out of uh Memphis uphere and the chief my chief of dental came up andsaid, "Ur, I didn't know you did all these things." Well, it's not I wasn'ttrying to hide. It's just that I don't brag.I just did it. And he said, "You know, the exams fell off." "Well, yeah, I didthose." "Well, the recall fell apart." "Well, I did that on my computer athome." Well, [snorts] my god, that was like half the clinic'sprogress or production. You were just doing it on the side. Well, yeah, that'sokay. I had time. I used my time well. So anyway, if anybody had wants to seemy CD, I'm glad to share. >> Well, thank you very much for coming in,Dr. Sabard. We enjoyed speaking with you this evening.>> Many years. >> Thank you for having me.>> Thank you. >> And I hope to see you.>> Thank you. >> Thank you so much for coming.[snorts] >> They've done everything.>> Yeah. That brings us to our final interview this evening, Mr. Sean Thomas. >> Mr. Thomas, it's nice to meet you.>> Good evening, guys. >> Welcome.>> I think I saw you in the the crowd there, so I I think you know the processand how we'll work through this. >> See if I can through a little bit.>> Yeah. So, I'll kind of kind of skip that even though I feel like we finally foundour stride. [clears throat] >> Um, but that's okay. I'll I'll startwith uh hold on I'm going to record the time so I know what Joy has got going onover there. Um I'll start with the introduction here. So uh please take amoment to introduce yourself including your professional background andqualifications you believe are relevant for this open board position.>> Yes. Uh well good evening to everybody here and thank you for the opportunityto talk with you all. Um uh my name is Sean Thomas, lifelong resident here. UmI graduated here 2001, Forest Lake Ranger. Um I have four kids. I'mmarried. Um one of my my oldest boy just graduated last year now serving in USArmy and my other three kids are still in school here. Um middle school and uhand Forest Elementary. Um, I've been serving um our community with theForesight Fire Department for um over two decades now. UmI'm currently the district chief. Um I'm the senior member of the personnelcommittee. Uh this handles our hiring and mentoring. Um I was our department'straining officer uh for many years and I served a 10-yearterm on our um fire department relief association board. Um,as part of our command staff, we I deal a lot with our policy development andenforcement. Um, our long-term planning and of course ourday-to-day fire and emergency response of protecting life and property. Um, I am a small business owner here. I runa real estate business. Um, I'm a real estate agent and an investor,consultant. I've been doing that for just over 20years as well. Um I recently served on the reimagine um 2025 elementaryboundaries. Uh that was a really fun opportunity to be part of. Umgave me a new light into the Foresak school district and the system and someparts I hadn't been previously exposed to. Um been coaching in in uh Force Lakeum for more than 20 years. everything from wrestling to lacrosse to football,soccer. Um I'm a huge believer of what sports does for for young people'scharacter and adversity and um all of these independence development that I Ilove to see in these young women, men and women. Um,I founded and I am the lead instructor for um, Hearts Safe Forest Lake. It's aCPR and AED program. Uh, I've put um, uh, over 3,000 of our residents throughthis training. Every single Forest Lake High School student goes through thistraining. I'm in the I'm in the schools as you probably saw in my in my write upum multiple times a year teaching teaching students. Um I'm running forthis position because I believe uh education is paramount. Um above allelse, strong academics um and my lifelong roots and leadershipis what I'm hoping to be able to contribute right away.>> All right. Thank you. Um, member Christensen,>> thanks for being here tonight, Sean. Very nice uh advertisement with thewater bottle. I like that. [laughter] >> Good advertisement for uh football. So,thank you. Uh, what are your goals and aspirations for this school district?>> Um, I don't see this as a broken district.Um, I'm not looking to come in here and and make changes. And I'm coming in to Iwould like to come in to to to be a to be a a voice of reason when when askedupon and um for our district. I want to always always prioritize what's best forfor the kids, what's best for the community. What can we do that maximizesthe uh the kids experience to make it fun,to make it exciting, to make it educational, to give them opportunitiesin sports and and clubs and and at the same time supporting our staff and allstaying in budget. Hard to do, but that's what we aretasked with. >> Thank you.Member Castle, >> what legacy would you like to leave as aresult of your time on the board? >> I don't think I'm here to build alegacy. Um, but if someone wants to remember me by it was fair. Um, somebodywho always always put what was for best for the kids. Um, I don't have an axe togrind. Um, I don't come in with an agenda. Um, I never saw myself as aschool board member. uh candidate. Um up until four weeks ago, I had neverconsidered this. And um I want to come in to be fair. I want to come in to be alistener. I'm going to come into umuh to take something that is maybe somewhat dysfunctional and try to helpwith transparency and communication and um reaching out to the public as much aspossible to um help people understand the why we makedecisions and understand why you vote a certain way and to just be a be a fairlistener. to all the points and try to representthe community best you can. Just fair and fair and listening.>> But I'm not here to build a legacy. That's for certain.>> Thank you. >> Member Corkran.>> Thank you for being here tonight, Sean. >> Thank you.>> Um if you if you have [clears throat] a really tough decision to make, how doyou go about making that decision and what are your steps or processes?I am a firm believer of a good old-fashioned pros and cons chart.>> Um, when I have tough decisions, I want to I want to start eliminating uh someoptions. Oh, if I have uh five five hard choices, I'd like to start getting ridof one at a time. So, I'm now I've done it two tough choices. And um>> I'm not saying it'll be a perfect choice, but I guess for me when it comesto in this position a tough choice is it'll always come back to what is bestfor the kids, what is best for the athletes, what is best for the students,and what is best for our staff. And will it be a perfect decision? I don'tthink very many are. But we'll do our best to always put the right prioritiesfirst. >> Okay. Thank you very much.>> Thank you. Good question. >> Memorson.>> Hi Sean. Nice to see you again. Thanks for coming tonight. Um my question ishow was important is it for you to have a trusting relationship with thesuperintendent? If it is important, how would you achieve this?>> I I believe your CEO you the board has to have a a powerful relationship.powerful in terms of of trust and communication and um understandingintent with within each other um knowing their communication style best you canto be effective in your time. And I don't think we can steal Dr. Massiey'stime um all day every day. I guess we have to be concise and figure out whatwhat it is we're trying to say in a in a in a in a um in a concise manner sowe're appreciating the efficiencies that we need to. Um but it has to be um hasto be trust. It has to be trust from both sides. Um and always knowing thatthat intent is there to be positive to be moving forward in the rightdirection. And if there is a disagreement, which there always will besomewhere along the line to be able to work through that, listento the viewpoints and to explain why you see it one way versus another way. Andif you can articulate what you're trying to say, it goes a long ways to um to uhhaving non-aggressive conversations. [snorts]>> Yeah. Okay. >> Great.>> Thank you. >> Thank you,>> Member Tyson. Yes. Well, Sean, nice to meet you. I think I met you when youwere here for the and you were here for the superintendent interview.>> I was I was impressed. >> And thank you for all your work you putinto your application, your resume. >> Um, and nice to see you again tonight.>> Likewise. Thank you. >> Here's my question. What would youintend your major contributions would be to Forest Lake Area Schools?>> I I talked about this a minute ago, too, and I just I don't see Forest Lake areasas broken. I'm not coming in to to be Mr. Fixit. Um umas far as with within this board is to maybe be a bridge of some sort to um tobe a listener, to be fair. um to try to extend um uhacross from one table to another and one voice to another and try to listen toreason as best we can and viewpoints and and together come to to always come backto what is the reason we're here. The reason we're here is to create a greatcurriculum to the best we can to create independent independent children turninginto young adults and um to always be furthering the opportunities these kidshave. That's that's my number one goal for a school, a school district, aschool board is great curriculum, great kids, great staff, staying in budget,supporting each other, and safe. These kids need to feel safe all the time.Whether it's from the outside or from the inside, these kids can't be going toschool, feeling someone's there to harm them, someone's um looking over theirshoulder, not wanting to go to the bathroom alone, just always feelingsafe. >> Very good. Thank you.>> Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, briefly describe the kindof relationship you want to have with your fellow boardmembers. one of understanding. I think um I seesix people who are out here committing their time. I think volunteerism overallis a dying breed. Um I think we see it in the fire service,in the volunteer fire service. We see it in boy scout troop leaders. We see it inall over. and you guys are here committing your Thursday nights andwhatever other nights that come up and and um knowing that you're in ittogether and you're there for everyone here has is here to make the schoolboard better and there may be different ways to get there in our mindsbut one of understanding that we're here for the reason of supporting ourcommunity of supporting our our youth and knowing that although there's adifferent step here and a different step there, we're still always tryingto be there for the right things, rights. And here you are sacrificingyour time away and you could be practicing your bow or working on yourgolf shot or whatever it is and but instead you're here and a level ofunderstanding and knowing that that person's not out to attack me. There'sjust a different lens they're looking at it through. But ultimately we're stillin this together to fight for the community, to fight for the youth, andand to do it in a in a proper way. All right. Thank you. Um Joy, it lookslike we have some time for [clears throat]>> Mr. Thomas to ask us a question. >> All right.>> Mr. Thomas, do you have a question for us?>> Um I do. I think I want to always circle back to my why. And I want to I'd bereally curious to hear why each of you chose to run for this position back whenyou whether it was months or years ago. Um why you guys chose to run for thisposition and if whatever that reason was if you're still holding true to thatbelief today. >> That's a really good question.>> Did you want to kick us off? Um, sure I can. Um, yeah, that's a great question.Um, um, wellum, I guess my why and why I ran uh, was I was naive. No,[laughter] >> I didn't know what I was getting into.Um, no. Um I ran because we have four children and uh they two are graduatednow but they're all going through um Forest Lake Area Schools and I've workedfor 10 years um as an aid at Scandi Elementaryum and I think about a couple years ago we had um a speaker at the um teacherwelcome back day and his big thing was what was your why? And um so I thoughtabout it a lot and I mean really my why was was the kids. It it was the kidsbecause my family was fortunate to have a good experience um in Forest Lake areaschools. And I know that that is not true um for every child. we, you know,we wish it was, of course, and there's all kinds of different experiences andall kinds of different things. Um, why that might be, but but um I just, Iguess I just wanted to give back. Like I our kids went to Scand ScandiElementary. I love it so much. Um I've been around the teachers. I used to subat the high school um a fair amount. And so I don't know, I've just been aroundreally great people, really great people that this district is made up of. andpeople that want to help and people that are there for the kids and and willvolunteer their time and, you know, kind of just do whatever it takes. And Iagree 100% that, you know, volunteering is is a dying breed. I mean, it's it'salways the same type of folks. You know, I um did a lot with youth wrestling. Imean, I've known known you a long time um through wrestling and other areas.And yeah, I mean, the same people are the ones that are always kind ofstepping up and um usually that is. And so I don't know, I Ium yeah, I did it I did it for the kids. I did it uh to give back as a way togive back and acknowledge that my family has really benefited from Forest Lakearea schools. That's why and it's still my why today. It's why I'm stillsitting. >> Four great kids on my dad.>> Thank you. >> Remember Castle?Um well I have when my kids were in school um I did chap rowing and allthese kind of things. I helped out I wasn't a coach but I helped out with thewith the sports. Um um I actually got a coach's shirt because there was an extraone and I was so involved that they they gave me one of the shirts. But umthe I just see what my kids went through.Um, there was a previous candidate that talked about how theirchild didn't get the grade that they thought they should get. Um, one mychildren did, the other one didn't. Um, had similarsome issues that were kind of similar to things that I ran into when I was astudent. And um what was the tipping point for mewas that one of my neighbors talked about some of the completely subject books that had subjects in themthat are not appropriate for school. And although that wasworked on and I don't know if it's completely taken care of, but there weremany of these objectional books taken out even beforethe election happened and everything. But along withthose that subject matter um [snorts]we need to keep things that are appropriate for students attheir ages and [clears throat]some things are need to be a little bit more advanced. Um, we we do have a newmath curriculum that we're looking at that seems to bring things much more inline with getting the students to like math. Thisis what we need. We need people to know that things are not a downer. It'slearning things should always be a positive things for students. theyshould need uh when I was campaigning, the the folks wanted their students tobe able to be um as you've said, independentuh people when they leave the school system. And so this is what I'mmostly here for is is that the students are independentpeople. This is a country of independence.Um everybody should be their own boss. They should be their ownruler. We are rule a country of self the self-ruule and you can't do that if youdon't have a proper education. >> Member Corkran.>> Uh yeah, you had me thinking over here like why I started. It was like 19 yearsago. A long time ago trying to remember. [laughter]Well, mine was um I'm an accountant by trade and I don't get a lot of there'snot a lot of passionate coming to accounting. I mean, I work for manydifferent companies, but um but I never felt fulfilled. It wasn't like somethingthat you're excited to go to work, you know, kind of thing. So, um and I'vealways been involved with the schools since my kids were, you know, they werein uh um ECF. I was always helping there and then I kind of got into theelementaryaries and then as they got older always volunteering for basketballand football and every sport imaginable. Ran tournaments. I mean I've always beenactive with children. Things that they're whatever my kids were passionateabout I became passionate about whether you know sometimes I got a little boredbut I was always there supporting. Um so then you know also flaw all thedifferent things I got involved it. And then remember Morehead and I I mean I'veknown Karen for many years and her son was my um baseball coach and she saidI'm going to be resigning from the board and I'm what do you think? Do you thinkthat'd be something you would be interested in? I'm like hm and I reallymade me think about like giving back. It was like the progression from all thethings I had done in the past. It was like this you know kind of that's areally great idea. So her son said don't let her talk you into it. I rememberthose [clears throat] words as I was sitting on the bench watching baseballand I would really think about the commitment because it really is acommitment. It's um uh and I s I took great pride and I still do take greatpride in being part of the school board and many times I've thought what are youdoing? Are you still on the board? But I'm I still I feel a lot of pride and Ifeel like we're always moving our district so forward and I take I justfeel feel joyful about it and I haven't lost that passion and and commitment andand I'm always hopeful for the for the future. Um my job still my job which Istill do but I do really look forward to all the things we've done for our schooldistrict. So that is my why. Um the public sector is intriguing to me umover private. um this whole world of public education is just the passionthat our staff feels and you feel it when you go in the schools and the kidsare excited and and I've just always it fills me up um with pride. So I uhthat's my why. Yeah,>> it's a >> Yeah, a great question and umuh you know my I have several reasons um why I decided to do this. Umthere were just a couple of people in a small circle that had said maybe youshould run for school board because you aren't afraid to go in to the listeningsession and and ask questions and and say things that maybe some people don'twant to hear. Um, and then also and mostly because I have threekids in this school district and we have zero desire or you know realuh plans to move anytime soon and we're going to be here and I you knowwhat with 2024 several years after the height of COVID but I mean there weretimes for almost two years straight pretty much that you I mean you couldn'teven go into buildings and I felt really sad about that and I'm not blamingblaming anyone. That's just how things were. Andand and you know to miss out on um being able to connect with your kids duringthe day in that setting. And I I thought, you know, how can I getinvolved and be of service and understand more of what this wholesector actually is and how it functions and works because I know I there'splenty I don't know. So I just thought, you know, maybe I should do that. Andand another reason is because you know I I I come from healthcare andyou know when when when you're going through when you go through co andhealthcare and in the educational realm and all this COVID and the politics andthe personal beliefs things that started just all erupted at around the sametime. It's it became very hard for people to ask questionsum or or disagree and I wanted to be an inspiration to other people that wantedto ask questions and be able to disagree safely and um know that there's morepeople out there that are wondering the same things and have the same questions.>> Thank you, member. Um Joy informs me we've only got two minutes, but I thinkuh member Tyson and I will finish our answers.>> One minute and you get one minute. Sorry.>> I think I think what we'll do is you go ahead and answer the question to thebest of your ability. I'll do the same with mine. We'll go over a little bithere if it if it pleases the board and then we'll move on to uh we have a10-minute recess set up on the schedule here right after this. So>> well, I'll go ahead and start then. >> Yes, go ahead.>> Um so I followed a similar path to member Christensen. I lived out inScandia. I worked at the school as a parah when my girls were little. Went tothe elim church. My girls went to that preschool. We so much love Scandia eventhough we were on the Chicago border. We're like no questions asked. We aregoing to foresight area schools. So I got involved with PTO's FL sports. Myhusband coached, I coached, I did Girl Scouts, all those fun things you talkedabout. But I soon started to realize that Forest Lake was an awesome schooland a wonderful school community with lots of great families, but it wasneedy. The buildings were horrible. They were rundown. I then transferred to workat the Central Learning Center, which is now gone. But we had pickle pales in thepreschool classrooms for catching the drips from the rough.>> They were there when I was there. >> Yeah. [snorts] So, you know that ourbuildings were a mess. Our um curriculum had been gutted. Everything. We werecounting paper. You could only have white paper. It was so many things. So,I decided to run and we moved to Forest Lake also because it was convenient formy husband's work. But I put on my tagline on the district site that Iwanted to be on the board and see that four area schools became the premierdistrict that it's it can be. And you know, people came back around to ask methat. When's that going to happen, Gail? When are you going to pass the levy?When are you going to pass the bond? You know, my son is sharing a textbook. Youknow, all those things. And at some point I was like going, "Oh, I put alofty thing on there." But you know what? It came around and it happened.And so like member Corkin said, I have so much pride that I stuck out all theseterms on the board. I'm so humbled by all the people that elect me and now ourdistrict has been on this awesome trajectory. And yeah, that that's stillmy why that I want to just see us continue on that upward path. And we area premier district. We've made it to the top and we're just going to keepclimbing. So, >> right. Thank you for the great question. >> So, one of the reasons I love theopportunity to have our candidates ask us questions is I think the questionstell a lot probably more than the answers to our questions tell us aboutthe candidate. And this one particularly struck a chord with me because I'm inthat decision-making process. Uh I noticed on our agenda later this eveningI I need to make the decision within a couple of months. is am I going to runagain? Is this something that I want to continue doing? And this question reallygrounds that decision of, you know, reflecting back on why did I run thefirst time and do I do I feel like I can continue contributing? And that's that'swhat I love about this question. Um, like member Tyson, um, I lived outsidethe district when my kids were growing up and getting to the point of coming toschool. Uh my wife and I had made the decisionthat we were going to open enroll our kids into White Bear Lake area intoWhite Bear Lake into Forest Lake instead of sending them to White Bear Lake AreaSchools because we felt that this school offeredbetter balance, better opportunity and was going to be uh a far more enrichingexperience for them uh than White Bear Area Schools would offer. And that'ssaying a lot because as everybody in this room likely knows, White Bear LakeArea Schools eclipse us as far as financing is concerned. They're probablyrunning laps around us. And the opportunities that they can offerstudents are um unfathomable to to those of us that sit here and try to manageour budget. But the thing that they don't or that they can offer students isthe positive culture that we have here at Forest Lake. And that was evident tome. My daughter's now 22 years old. So that was evident to me, you know, thedecade and a half, two decades ago that Forest Lake wasunique and offered opportunities for students that were far more enrichingthan anything any hyperinflated budget could offer. Um, it offered a culture.It offered a an experience. And um as you know being on the board like me manymany other members I I do feel pride that our programs are so enriching toour students and that we're preparing students for the next step in their lifewhether that's you know career technical medical we have we have tons of optionsa college. So how do you root that back into wellwhy do you sit in this seat? Why why do you take um especially as board chairwhy do you take the heat that you take and um you know if things go well umthere's some praise but regardless of what position you take there's somebodyin the community that disagrees with your decision and when you're the faceof that decision a lot of times uh you end up taking the heat no matterwhich way it falls. So, um, gosh, so, so why am I here? Like, what what got mestarted here? And and really what I saw was that Forest Lake was doing a lot ofreally good things, but I felt like we were missing out on some of the minordetails. And I felt like there was some opportunities out there and that mybackground uh in in executive management lent itself in a unique fashion to comein and help kind of clean up some of those details and help offer uh supportto administration because I'm in a similar role. understand what it lookslike to uh be thinking on that macro level, but to have all of your feedbackliterally come from the micro level where every student um matters. Andthat's difficult because you're trying to do that balancing act of what's bestfor the system, but you're trying to balance that against what's best forthis student and every single one of those students matter. So, it's a it's areally difficult needle of thread and uh that's exciting to me. I'm the kind ofperson I like to dig into really difficult uhdifficult problems and try to find ways to solve them, new unique approaches todo things. And uh um modernization was another big part of it too. Uh we'veover the the course of of years when things work, it's easy to kind of getstuck in the rut of we do this because this is how we've always done it. And insome cases, I think that's okay, but I like to challenge that thought process.And I thought that was something that u my experience could lend itself in. Andlike uh member Castle alluded to, I I do believe that education is foundationalwhen you're trying to make changes to education system, especially in the Kto2, you have a lot of passionate voices on every side of the the aisle. And itdoes take courage and it takes a a different kind of personality to come uphere and actually speak your mind and represent a community that does want tosee a change here and there and I feel like that's something that I canbring to the board. >> With that, we are overtime.>> Yes, >> I I suspect>> we do have a 10-minute recess here on our interview schedule. Um, so I' I'dlike to start off thanking Mr. Thomas for his time coming here tonight. It wasnice to meet you. >> Likewise.>> And uh if it pleases the board, we will recess for 10 minutes.>> Okay, sounds great. All right. All right. I now call the regular schoolboard meeting for Forest Lake Area Schools, Thursday, May 21st, back toorder. Member clerk, will you please take the roll call of attendance?>> Sure. Uh, member Christensen >> here.>> Member Castle >> here.>> Member Corkran >> here.>> Member Antonson is here. Member Tyson >> here>> and member Reveline >> here.>> Everybody's here. >> All right. Wonderful. The next item onour agenda is the deliberations for the uh Forest Lake Area School Board vacantseat. Does anybody want to kick us off? [snorts] >> Well, I think you can.>> Yeah. Do we want to talk person by person or how how do you want to addressthis? We should go around with the first ones.>> Maybe we just kind of go around each person and talk about them and then I Idon't know. >> Yeah, do it through the order of>> who they who we interviewed. >> Um, we definitely want to uh speak aboutMrs. Young as well who was unable to attend this evening, but she is still aviable candidate in this process. >> Um, >> we can absolutely do that. Uh, memberCorkran, with this being your idea, did you want to kick us off with Mrs.Schroeder? >> I would love to. Um, so, um, WendySchroeder, uh, well, her answers were, you know,she was the first one, so she was she was short. She got things done prettyquickly. Um, so I loved some of the things I loved when she said about toughdecisions. There's three sides to every story, which I totally as a mother andas a school board member, I do understand. You got your side, the otherside, and you got the truth. I mean, the thing is there's different perspectivesfor different people. I really like that about her. I love that she worked in ourschools. She was um worked for 10 years as um at the high school. So, she hasreally good knowledge of of our schools and staff. A lot of people know her inthe community. She knows the administration. She has she understandsthe the way schools work, public education. She's currently working atCentennial right now. We lost her, but um but she also just has a very good umuh um kind of even even personality. Sheseemed very um you know, she answered things really, but she also has a littlesense of humor, which I think in this position we kind of need at times. Ilike that she talked about teamer can trust which is also something that'svery important for our district. Um so that's the things I liked about Wendy. Ithink she would be a great addition. Um I like the whole collaboration too. Soshe says a lot of positive things. I think she's a very positive person justfrom interpreting her and are also reading her um her background.>> All right. Thank you. Member >> Parker.>> Would anybody like to go next or do we have anything more to add? Or do we want to move on to the next?>> Excuse me. Can you just say the pro are we speaking? Are we each maybe what isthe process that you're thinking about? Are>> we all talking about we're talking? But then did you just say we're moving on orwhat did you say? >> Well, those of us who wish to make acomment about the candidate may >> So only if you wish to make a candidatea comment. We're not going around. >> I don't think we have to force eachother to do it. No, I'm I'm just understanding the I want to understandrespect to their process and their time they took out. So that's where I'mcoming from. So I am going to comment because I think they invested a lot oftime in this process. And >> would you like to go next time?>> And so okay, >> I'd love to.>> So anyway, I agree that Wendy is presented as just a really positiveperson. Um, she talked about she'd like to be the one to bring it together and Ithink that that's just kind of a perfect attitude. I mean, that's one thing thatwe really need. And yeah, I really liked how she talked about look at all all thesides and come to a reasonable solution. Um, that's what needs to happen. We allneed to be reasonable and come to a reasonable solution. Um, one other thingthat I really liked about what she said is she would like to help the communityum, on the communication side and with transparency and and being be bridgingthat gap. So, I think she recognized that her personality, her background, Imean, obviously in her um application, she's worn a lot of different hats.um liaison and support in def different positions and um understand systems asbeing an administrative assistant and would understand our system as well. SoI love she talked about collaboration and communication. She said that severaltimes. So >> yeah, thank you member Tyson. MemberChristensen. >> Yeah. I also just wanted to thank Wendyfor um applying and for coming to this evening. I also she also sits on thecommunity ed advisory council um that I'm on and uh so I see her at thosemeetings and she does have a great sense of humor and she seems like a verypositive person um and I do appreciate her 10 years here at Forest Lake AreaSchools and I think it's also a good um sort of uh experience level that she hascoming at from Centennial Schools. Now she's in the Centennial Public SchoolDistrict. I believe she's in somewhere in the district office. She's teachingand learning. >> Teaching and learning. Okay. And youknow, so she might hear some things or have some ideas or, oh, they do this atCentennial or, you know, there might be some ideas coming out of that orsomething. Um, but but uh, no, I think she's very positive and I like herexperience. >> I agree. Very good.>> I would agree. She's a very positive person. Um,I like what she has to say about looking at the entire picture. Um, beingtransparent, just all the same things you guys have emphasized about how, youknow, what does sound good from her, um, collaboration, trust, openconversations, um, helping community understandhow and what happens here. I'm curious to know how she might want to go aboutdoing that. I mean, there's a lot of negative things and misinformation goingout um from different one or sing multiple groups in our community. And Idon't know how somebody would counter that. I think the best way to counterthat is to be paying attention to what's going on here on your own, you know, andthen asking direct questions to the people on the board.Um, but that's just me. Um, I think she dida nice job and yeah, it went really fast.>> It did. >> She zipped right through the interview.So, >> yeah.>> Yeah. >> Yeah, she was succinct. Uh, um, I'llI'll jump in next. The thing that really stood out to me was uh her very firstquestion that member Christensen asked about uh correcting some of the publicperception and it hearkens back to a Mark Dwayne quote that uh I absolutelylove that it's the trouble with the world is not that people know toolittle. It's that they know so many things that just aren't so. And that's areal problem that we have here right now today. we have very vocal groups thatare spreading so many things that just aren't so. And that stood out to me thatthat was something that uh she'd recognized and was willing to um try toto help us fix in the community. >> Um>> member Castle, did you have anything to add to this or do we want to move to thenext? >> Well, I I also like her financialoversight and her travel experience and uhthat liaison support and she has a lot of uhdifferent things that she's that she's done.So, and she seems uh very personable, >> easy to get along with. Yeah,>> good word. >> All right. Do we just want to workthrough these in order that they interviewed and we'll we'll get Mrs.Young last? >> Okay. So, we'll move on to uh Mrs.Templeton. Does anybody want to kick us off withMrs. Templeton. >> Well, I guess I can go first again.>> Sure. [laughter] >> Thank you, Member Cork.>> Lucky me. >> I was just reviewing my notes.>> Okay. Well, Tracy was a very impressive [clears throat] candidate. Um, verypersonable. Uh, I loved a lot of things that I love her background. She's workedK through 12, which is also and special ed and just her incredible education andthe words she used about collaboration andjust she just you could just feel it from her. Um I also wrote down um shehad K through 12 systems experience but how important is to ret retain staffingand she's a good active listener and I think that at times is very criticalespecially in our role here. um listening before you talk sometimesreally could get you out of trouble. I think um all about relationships andsharing common ground. I think I just really liked her background and also herabout data driven uh decision- making >> which I do uh I do that as well. So Ihad that listening her talk about that and interviewing with the parents andkeeping an open mind that is really important in this role coming in becauseI said you're going to come in with your past experiences but you have to keep anopen mind because every decision you make is not about you it's about the thecommunity so and the students. So she also kind of said that too. So I reallyconnect with her in a lot of things that she talked about and I think she wouldbe a really critical thinker which I think she would really weigh things outwell and really come up um with a really good kind of a bridge. I I really feltlike her role is what she's dealt with in her career and with her experience. Ithink she'd be a really strong advocate for a good seven member.>> Thank you. I'll jump in next here. I I I really in appreciated her background inthe special education space. It's >> I have one kid who's working throughthat process. It's a challenge. Even when things are going smoothly, it'shard >> and there's confrontationalconversations even when things are seemingly normal. And I I reallyappreciated her comment about when you I I'm gonna paraphrase this because I Idon't have it written down exactly, but about how she said when you when youhelp bring improvements for the special ed community, you you help raise the barfor um all students. >> And I I think that's really important.And one of the other things I have actually noted here in the corner wasthat in many of the things that she was saying, especially when she wasreflecting back on her >> special ed experience, I saw Dr. Wilsonnodding in the background there >> and that gives me the the confidencethat she was right on about some of the things that she was saying because Ihave a lot of respect for the work Dr. Wilson knows as well. Soyeah, I I appreciated those comments for sure. Member Christensen.>> Oh, I was just going to say um a couple things that I wrote down as I was takingnotes. I just wrote down wow so much experience. I mean>> I I would well I don't know if I can ask you a question. I mean do you know herfrom 916? >> I don't but I recognize her name.>> We just did the uh she mentioned the >> appreciation for years of service.>> So I remember seeing her name on the uh the agenda having seen her application.>> Yes. So she shortened my 916 report for later which is good because we're goingto be running against the clock later in the week. No, I was just I was justcurious and I mean I wrote down that she said she has worked with over 60 schooldistricts >> because she talked about being a aconsultant and I loved she said I have a really good understanding of K12 and Ireally liked how she said she's good at listening and observing>> and also uh to member Corkran's point about retaining staff. She spoke aboutthat quite a bit and >> that is something that you know we'vetalked about in Forest Lake area schools. Sometimes we get the youngerteachers or we train them and then they might leave for you know greenerpastures and more money somewhere else. So um I really liked what what she hadto say about um ret retention and I like that she's an adjunct professor. I meanit looks like she just has lots of varied experience and very professionaldemeanor. >> Um yeah. I really liked her a lot too.[clears throat] >> Yeah, I think her she can[clears throat] with the people that she has beendealing with um the autism spectrum, you can have very little you can have quitesevere challenges with with these folks. Um and she seems towell I haven't seen her interact with those folks but it seems that she doesthat very well uh with 21 years experienceum leading the the department there and um[clears throat] so I think she has a a good ability tocommunicate with people. >> Member Tyson, remember member Aninson?>> I can go. So, yeah, just this resume is beyondimpressive. this she is, you know, and you wouldn't know it from her warm kindof just down to earth um uh interview with us, but she's a veryhighlevel professional with her master's degree. Um I liked how she started fromthe beginning talking about how her kids went through our dis our district, herhusband is a graduate, how she loves [snorts] Forest Lake herself and haslived here for many years. Um, so there's that grassroots forest lakething too that is so impressive. But Jill, member C member, who are you?Christensen, >> who are you?>> Commented on the 60 different school districts she's worked with. And I thinkthat that >> and she stated it a couple times that Ireally understand K12 systems because >> I've got all this experience with the 60different. But more impressive is that she's done a thousand assessments>> that >> and in her 31 years. Um, and part ofthat she talked about how that's a collaborative in and of itself becauseyou're meeting with families, you're meeting with other professionals, you'retrying to come together around decisions and all of that. So, um I also reallyliked how she answered my question and member Christensen alluded to that aswell, how she talked about that about retaining teachers and retaining staffand how that's that's a thing that you've got to work on. That's somethingthat we need in our district. I mean, she said our teachers are here for along, long time, but with our new teachers, it it seems like she has a lotof experience and knowledge and really values how you need to retain your staffand you need to make them feel integrated and part of the system andwelcomed and supported and all of that. So, I really like that in terms of herum major contributions to the district. Um,>> I liked how she talked about um how she would listen more and talk less.>> Um, I think that's a that's a skill and sometimes I think I can do a good job atthat and sometimes I think I don't. So, I like that listen more than talk. Umthe other thing I wanted to touch on is that she said umin question six that the relationship should start with respect which I thinkwe've all talked about and noted that that's something we all want as well andex that we all have different lived experiences. So we want to be heard aswell as listened to and um I think that's important. And so the other thingI wanted to note that I thought was really umjust you could tell that she's she's got experience in governance governanceexcuse me but she quoted or she put in here policy our policy 1202I'm fully committed to the care management and control of the districtas outlined in policy 1202. So>> I mean >> this she is just an exemp exemplaryum >> um application and um applicant here aswell as um I think that she would bring that calmdemeanor and that presence that would help us continue to accomplish what weneed for our students and our staff and our district moving forward. Sothat's it for me. >> Thank you, Member Tyson.>> I think everybody has said all I don't need to>> repeat the positive things that you know she brought to the table and to herinterview. >> Umum I don't think so.>> All right. Well, then we can move on to Dr. Sabard. I'm willing to to jump infirst uh with Dr. Sabard. I I felt it became very apparent as we went throughhis interview and it from one question to the next that really he's he's afacilitator. He's somebody that uh he's not necessarilyuh doesn't necessarily have a desire to come here and and drive the ship, buthe's here to help us drive the ship. More of a more of a sailing analogy thanthan driving the car as where that's a massive team effort. a lot of the workthat we do here at the board is a team effort and he certainly recognizes that.He's an appreciation for that. Um he's sat um maybe not in these chairs but inthese chairs before um as having a a tenure as a board member, so he'sdefinitely got the experience and the background where he's he's done thework. He's he's built those relationships. Uh um but although it hasbeen some time, he's definitely a facilitator, somebody who's willing tolend his ear and help us bounce ideas off of uh off of him. And I really likethat uh um he kept striving for the the motivation behind what's your intent>> and I think that's important because in any decision if you let if you peel backthe layers of the onion and and you get to that core intent I think that's whereyou you know ideas can really blossom and thrive. So that's what I appreciatedmost about his interview. >> Yeah. Oh>> yeah. Go ahead. Okay. >> Yeah. Go ahead.>> Um II really enjoyed his um demeanor and his his ability just from life experienceoverall and past experience of being on the board that he seems to bring adifferent kind of um leisure to the conversation where he's laidback enoughand he's just going to talk about what he thinks is important and get to thepoint when he gets to the point and that's the way it should be, you know,like um Iappreciate that, you know, when he talked about his his son's experience inschool here, I highly identify with that. It's been a struggle at times. Umaccountability for the kids and and I wanted to clarify what he meant. I'm notexactly sure I think what he meant is accountabilityfor these kids to take accountability for their um education and be encouragedand inspired is what I think he meant. But anyway, um I just appreciate thefact that he's sat here for three terms much like member Tyson and memberCorkran have done. I thinkmany people at the table here this evening have talked about the desirewhether it was superintendent or um an incoming possible board member to havehad experience. Um,I think he he brings that he desires open communication and says that wouldbe one of his biggest contri contributions to joining the[clears throat] board and defending us teachers and students from, you know,any misconceptions or rumors that he hears out in and I think that'sadmirable because not everybody's willing to just stick their neck on theline for any other group even if they don't knowthem. So >> thank you member Hson member Cass. Yeah,[clears throat] I think u he was very relaxed and uh I like how he wantspeople to understand each other >> andbe very clear about whatpeople intend that intent again um I do identify with them that just getout you just get out there and do it. paper out was my first job other than,you know, mowing the lawn, but working for somebody else, it was the paper. Um,and so I just did that and I just I just went out andand did it. So, he's a he's a doer in that way. It seems that he's more of uha facilitator of what he'shis intent seems to be here is to not necessarily do but to see that everybodyelse understands what everybody else wants to do.So I think that's that that's a very good thing to toput forth is that understanding when there might not beproper understanding about something. >> Yeah.>> All right. >> Christensen,>> I can just say that I um I appreciate his service. I mean, three terms, youknow, that I I appreciate his service. Um, I appreciate his experience. Um,and I appreciate that he wants to get, you know, [clears throat] get back init. So, um, yeah, >> I can go next. Go ahead.>> Yeah. So, I I felt I got to talk to his daughter and I introduced myself to herbefore it started and and he um he got on the board when she was inschool and I think if I remember correctly, she graduated 1996,something around there. So, I I thought that's that is reallysomething for him to come back around and want to be on the board again. thatthat's really cool to to even consider. And some of the things that I took away,I mean, he he's he's worn a lot of hats, chemical engineering, dentistry,um, all those things, that that's a lot. And then the testing that he was talkingabout at the end. And but some of the takeaways I heard from him were that hewhen he was asked by member Castle what legacy, he said, I I don't come withulterior motives. And I think that's that's always important to for me tohear that somebody doesn't have their own agenda. And clearly he doesn't. Umhe also said at the very end um that he's colleial and he said I'm stilllearning. >> And I thought that was um commendablethat you know we are we're all still learning and and that's an important wayto look at things. So >> yeah, I guess I'm the last one. Um, no,I thought he was he's just such a laid-back kind of just someone you canjust talk to and he'll I mean he must he loves telling stories. You definitelycould tell. I mean he'd be talk I mean he he's left lived quite a life. Um Ilove that he had you know he was in the Navy.>> He has just a different perspective about life and just his role I think.Um, but I loved loved the defend that that he talked about defending rumors. Iliked that he would go to bat for people and he's not afraid for that. That thatthat was really good. Um, and accountabilityand also um he said about the relationship with superintendent is ismost important and and you and he said it should be preserved. I like that wordpreserved. It sounds it's very old school, but also it it's him, you know,it kind of says who he is as a person. >> Yeah, I thought he was I thought he wasvery fun to listen to and I his experience I mean someone you could sitand talk to for hours and really learn from him. So I really did enjoy hisinterview. >> Good guy.>> All right, that brings us to u Mr. Sean Thomas. Would anybody like to kick usoff with Mr. Thomas? I'll start.>> Sure. Um,so I very much appreciate uh the fact that he does serve in our community andhow he comes from this school, graduated,what did he say, 2001, still lives here, has grown his ownbusiness here, serving on the fire department and multiple things within,you know, all the different layers of responsibilities he has. And um I lovethat he started the Hearts Safe Forest Lake and and brought that to all of ourhigh school students. I think that's pretty amazing. Um,and he always came back to like uh I think memberTyson just said that you know the previous candidateum had said this legacy thing like he's not here about his legacy. I mean Mr.Sean Thomas said the same thing. He's not here to build a legacy. Umhe is someone who aims to be fair and he's not here forany agenda. He's here to listen and be transparent and listen to all points. Umhas a straightforward nononsense way about making decisions.um evaluating the pros and cons and um understands that your CEO umthat pro that relationship with your CEO is one of the most important things youcan have and trust is necessary. We have to do what we can tocreate and maintain it. So,um I just appreciated everything that hehad to say pretty much. And I'll I'll just say I have had a personalexperience uh watching him in his role and was able to see firsthand hiscapacity for maintaining composure, respect, and calm in in asituation where it could have gotten, you know, maybe a little heated. And Ijust was very impressed by the way he handled himself in the in his role>> in his role as a fireman. >> Yeah.>> Okay. So,>> thank you consent. Anybody else want to dig in?Member Pork said to raise the hand or >> I can. Yeah, I can. I can.>> I just saw it out of the corner of my eye.>> I can um No, he was uh he did a great job in his interview um reading abouthis experience. He's got great experience. Um,so, um, yeah, I liked I liked a lot of the answers he said. Um,so he's here for education. That's that's first and foremost. Um, he alsotalked about budgeting. He's wants everything, you know, and that's goodbecause we are we [snorts] have to be um that's a very important part of ourjobs. Um, the voice of reason, what's best for kids. Um,and he said that quite often about what's best for kids, which I liked. Um,he talks about making a decision, pros and cons list, which I of course do.That's kind of the way and eliminate the the worst and you have down to a couple.>> Um, I do like that about him. Um, so also the relationship with thesuperintendent. Um, building trust and communication and work throughdisagreements, which I also liked. He said that. So yeah, he said, you know,being a bridge um for listening and umI don't know if he said it this something about not broken. I don't knowwhat I wrote there. Um but that yeah, he said some really and uh understandingand um he likes volunteering too. So he's that's he's you know kind of likethe volunteering person. So yeah and I like that he's you know he's served ourcommunity and volunteerism. I think that has been great. So, um, yeah, I think hedefinitely has some, you know, it's, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to saynegative, but so, um, yeah, it's the only the only thing that's missing isthe school, uh, having the other candidates all hadschool kind of more school >> centered>> uh, centered um, uh, applications. That was the only thing that I feel wasmissing on Sean's >> was that piece.>> Thank you, member. >> Yeah. Anybody like to go next?>> Castle. >> So what I like most about is that everysingle answer was focused on the achievement of thestudents. >> And that's why that's why we're here. Umhe has the volunteer work. I agree if everybodywho's talked about all the things that he's done with volunteers, thefirefighters, >> [clears throat]>> um the skills that he's learned um throughreal estate investor consulting. Um he knows how things work with finances.Um, I think the only thing that he lacks isa is a direct although who knows how much he's studiedand watched schoolboard things and whatever, butum it's about the only thing I see that isa detractor, >> you know, but he's coached so he knowsabout, >> you know, he's I'm sure talk to kids.Coaches hear a lot from from kids aboutespecially about other kids. Um so I think he has a very goodvery good grasp on students and how things need to go so that they areeducated very much on the education and thecommunity and that it's all about them >> and the transparency.of budgets and everything that goes on inthe district. >> Yeah.>> Thank you, member Castle. >> Anybody want to go next?>> I can go next. >> Sure. So yeah, I I thought that um Imean I've just met him the last time and then tonight and umuh I think he does have a lot of um familyfocused stuff that he does in the district as well as you know the heartssave program, the fire department, um youth sports coaching. Um, I likethat he talked about and put it in his resume being on the elementary boundaryadjustment. I mean, >> it's important to have people that getinvolved and parents that commit to being involved with those discussions.We we need that, right? >> So, I also liked um he said he he talkedabout kids being safe in school, which is really important to me,>> like way up there. So, I like that he commented on that. and a couple times hesaid he's not here to fix it. Um, so that makes good sense to me. Um,we're already a premier district, [laughter]>> just to borrow my word, >> destination district.>> So anyway, destination district. So um, >> yeah. So for me too, it just seems asthough I was looking for more for more more school governance forward and moreschool and governance forward in his application.Um he did talk about I did make a note here that I can still read even that umwhat other board what board experience does he have? I know he talked about arelief board, but then he didn't talk. He mentioned it, but I don't know ifthat's like a board. But anyway,um I think that I was just looking for more depth in this school world, in theschool realm, um experience in those fields, and just more governanceover throughout his application. >> All right. Thank you, Member Tyson.Would you like to go member Christensen or would you like me to? Uh, no. I justI um I appreciate it, Sean. I've met him, as I said, several times um throughyouth sports and I appreciate his volunteering and coaching. I know thattakes a lot of time >> and so I appreciate uh that he does thatand gives back to the community in that way. And I appreciate that he's a forestlike firefighter and um umbut yeah I I also and just coming back to the fact that this is about asix-month um stint really. Um, and so I just think I just think that umsome other candidates brought some stronger and more direct relevantexperience um due to the short, you know, the short time that's going to beon the board. >> All right. Thank you, MemberChristensen. I guess I'll throw in my two cents here at the end here. Um,so like has been mentioned a few times, one of the things that really stood outto me during his interview was that he kept coming back to what's best forkids, what's best best for staff. We we need to ground all of the decisions wemake in those two questions and and that really stood out. But another thing thatreally jumped out at me um especially in introducing himself and talking abouthis background when I look at all of the notes that I took and like what whatgrounds this individual to this board, why why here? Why now? Um I have morenotes for Mr. Thomas than I do probably the rest of them combined.and they all reminded me of the superintendent surveys that we sent outto the community. >> What What do we want in the nextsuperintendent? And I guess that made me kind of wonder is what does thecommunity want in our seventh board member?>> And I'd be willing to bet there's a lot of overlap between what the communitywanted and our next superintendent and what>> our community wants in the next individual to join us here at thistable. So, um, things that jumped out at me, a lifelong Forest Lake resident, weheard over and over in the superintendent survey is that beinggrounded in this community was important and he's lived here his whole life. Um,I believe he's the only candidate that we have, at least the only one thatmentioned it directly, that uh, he walked our hallways, graduated from ourschool. Um he mentioned with member Tyson that uh he remembers some of thesame things she does about uh the buildings and some of the problems we'vetried to correct. So he's got he's got firsthand experience of livingthat and understanding what it's like from a student's perspective. He's gotfour kids in our schools in multiple schools. The middle school forest lakeor forest view elementary. Um and you want to talk about communityinvolvement. I I've got notes here that just shocked me that his position on theForce Lake fire department, which member Anson brought up about his composure andhis ability to perform under stress. That that's impressive. Um he does haveboard experience. U maybe not sitting on a school board, but uh I came to theschool board with board experience and I felt that uh in my very first meeting, II hit the ground running. I understood procedure. I understood process. I knewhow the flow of meetings went and I knew how dis uh discussions worked um in aboardroom and that's something that it takes a lot of people time on boards toreally fully understand and and be able to to work through the rules and and hecomes with that. Um he talked about his policy development work and his planningdepartment uh work uh in his planning from a departmentwide aspect and andthat's very there's a lot of parallels between that kind of work and what youdo on a school board when you're when you're planning systemwide and thevacant position right now is actually assigned to our policy committee. Sothat would would carry over very cleanly. Um, from a governancestandpoint, he also mentioned that he's a a local small business owner. And ifyou don't think or or if you think that that you have to be on a school board tounderstand governance, open up your own business and and start looking at theway that the world works. So he comes with a governance experience as well.And then as far as uh um education experience, he talked about coaching inour district for over 20 years. Um I had the opportunity to coach as well andyou'll learn quite a bit um especially in working with students and studentneeds and um the types of things that you need to do to deliver results forstudents. And then member Tyson even brought up his reimagine 2025 committeework. That was probably the most difficultuh work that we've asked a subcommittee to do in>> no >> in probably the last decade since we didthe uh the levy and the uh um the bonding issue. That was one of the themost intense uh committee works that we've had.And and again, I I I ground this all in what did the community ask us to find ina superintendent and are there parallels in what thecommunity is going to ask us to find for a board member? And I thoughtSean hit every single one of those marks and and stoodstood out on his own. Um, that brings us to U. Mrs. SusanWhite. >> I thought it was Susan Young.>> Susan Young. >> Okay. It's a typo on I I thought it wasSusan Young. I looked at it. I'm going, "This is not right." Um,>> you have 19 minutes and 14 seconds remaining of your hour.>> Thank you. Okay. So, um, Mrs. Young, >> we did not have the opportunity tointerview Mrs. young, but were we all able to at least review her applicationand maybe have some speak with her over the last week or so?>> I met with her. >> Would would somebody like to to kick offthe discussion with Mrs. Young? >> I can go quickly. Um yes, I met withSusan Young. Um her application just also has just a wealth of experience. Umshe's been on city council several terms.um planning commission. We know we've seen her when she's been in here withour Rotary Interact students. She's just somebody that is um deeply committed tothe community, to investing her time. Talk about volunteering her time.>> She does so much for the community in terms of the things that she's involvedin. Rotary, wherever there's something going on, there's a need, she's there.Um, but what I really impre impresses me about Susan is that she's smart. Ifyou've ever gone to board meetings back when she was on the city council, shehas got a very smart mind, but as what goes along with that is just a humblepersonality, a fun personality, an engaged person in her community. Um, sheraised her daughter as a single mom. She's had different hardships and pathsthat she's gone down there. She's just risen to the top. She worked for theMinneapolis um city of Minneapolis in garbage hauling and came up with greatcreative ideas to do things better with less people when they had to make cuts.And you know, she was on the board in for Forest Lake when it was contentious,the mayor, um the makeup of the board, it was kind of contentious for manyyears. And I think she she brought um commonalities and bridges bycommunicating with people. And I just really admire that about her and I havea lot of respect for her. And if she wants to find something out or beinvolved in something, she'll call you up and she'll want want to have coffeeand find out about it. You know, it's not um where she just walks away fromthings that she doesn't know or understand. She's just veryvery um what's a good word? Just she's just very very involved andshe's very um willing to help with anything work.>> Yeah. So anyway, we had a great talk at coffee.>> I've I've known Susan quite a while just when she was on the city council. Umshe's she gets things done. She's not afraid to put the work in>> and uh she is she's very passionate about what she believes in.>> That's the >> uh yeah, she's very um if she cares andshe's always trying to make the best decisions and for what'sbest for the city at the time. I mean, she was always looking for creative waysto make things better and she did sit on a very hard board and she found ways toget things moving forward. I was very impressed by Susan and I still am. Um Isee her everywhere. She's no matter where you go, she's there. I mean, shejust is a a staple. I like remember Morehead back there. Karen Morehead,she's everywhere. And I just appreciate her willingness to apply. And um andlike I say, if if you want things done, you invite you have Susan help you. Shewill get it done. So, uh as far as I think she's, like I said, hardworking,very smart, creative thinker, and I think she'd put a good bridge in our inour uh in our board. she would get things done and I think she'd findcreative ways to make it work with [snorts] us with the six board membersthat we have. >> Thank you, Member>> Corkin. >> Anybody else want to>> I'll just I'll just speak really briefly. I I agree with what uh memberTyson and member Corkin said. I would also add when she was here with herstudents, you could tell her passion for the students and speaking about,[clears throat] excuse me, the student Rotary group that she was working with.So, >> she's with the students, she's active umand you know, all the things that you guys said, but you could just see herpassion for the students and her involvement when she was at some of themeetings earlier this year. [clears throat]>> I agree. >> Thank you.>> Yeah, I spoke with Susan um earlier this week for over a half an hour. Um,[clears throat] and she, you know, as far as my thequestion that I was responsible for was with trust with the superintendent. Um,and she said something that that I find interesting because it's sort of a endsup being a conundrum for me personally in this entire situation. But inresponse to how important is trust with the superintendent,she talked a whole a lot about the various roles she has had and held overthe course of her life and um how how very important it is to have trustin your professional staff and also that it basically starts out by trusting andthen trust but verify is what she said. And and I say it's a little bit of aconundrum right now in this process is becauseyou know we have talked about broken down trustum eroded trust and trying to build it back up andI I I think it's hard to in in the midst of trying to do thatwith other board members then also bring someone else into the mix tooand just blindly trust them because you don't really have a whole lot of ways toverify until you blindly trust them to show up and see what happens.We're talking about Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's it's it it just sort ofcame to me while I was conversing with her that that's part of the conundrum, Ithink, right now. And maybe not just for myself, but maybe for more than boardmembers, too. but she definitely does have a lot of experience. Um,and I guess that's all I have to say. Um,it's very datadriven decision maker too is one of the other things I havepointed out here in my sheet. >> Um,yeah. >> All right. Member Castle, would youlike? has worked in the public sector um and then moved at in the private sectoras a consultant. So >> it's to be a consultant, you kind ofhave to know your business. >> Otherwise, who's going to hire you toconsult? But she seems uh she seems veryversed in in organizations and and [clears throat] wanting tounderstand things and have the facts. All right. Thank you.So, I had the pleasure of finally connecting with Mrs. was young earliertoday and I'd known her from previous encounters over the last year and a halfor so, but uh I think member Corker put itput it right when she said passionate. >> Um the more time I spent with Mrs. Youngon the phone, the more I I got feeling like her and I are a lot alike.>> And I guess if you you like the way I operate, you're probably going to likethe way she operates. And if you don't, you might not because she's prettydirect. She's pretty thorough. She's willing to dig in. Um she's willing touh kind of turn over every stone to find uh new ways of solving problems. Andshe's willing to recognize when problems exist. And um I know that justpersonally, some people love that about me and some people hate that about me.So I guess I guess it kind of depends on where you fall on that one. But uh thething that uh I really appreciated about her was the willingness to have directdialogue. Uh there were direct questions that we had for one another. Um someexperiences that we both had with each other that uh we wanted to clarify. andshe wasn't offended when I dug into those topics and I said, "Hey,this is a concern that I have and I think it's better if I try to clear theconcern rather than just going into the the meeting with with this concern. I Iwant to understand it and um she had similar questions uh for me." So, I feltat the end of the hour discussion that we knew each other a lot better and thatwe probably have a lot more in common than we we initially thought. And>> um I think we could probably work together. Um so I I was impressed withthe time that I spent with her. Um with with that Joy, I think we'redown to eight. >> I have 9 minutes and 45 seconds.>> 9:45. Okay. >> Um>> so I guess I I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna throw that out to the board. 9 minutesand 35 seconds doesn't necessar 45 seconds. nine minutes doesn't>> nine and a half minutes doesn't necessarily seem like enough time toreally go through all five of them to me or or even to pick out a favorite andand have have our comments but uh we want to be respectful of the clocks. SoI guess I would ask the board do we do we want to stretch that or do we want topostpone action on this until the 28th? >> I don't see any reason to postponeaction. I mean, we've had time to review them. We had the interviews. I mean, allthe other groups, unless I'm mistaken, we've>> Yeah, I don't either. I mean, we just had a discussion on each one of them.>> This is the No, this is the first one we've time boxed in this manner. So,>> we just don't have to vote. >> Makes sense.>> People can call to the vote. >> Yeah.>> Are we going to go around and vote on everyone?>> I >> like is that how we've done it in thepast? a roll call vote.>> Right. >> Okay.>> And I just want to add that, you know, our community has blessed us again withgreat applicants and we're really fortunate.>> Very lucky. Yeah. People keep applying. >> All right. I'll I'll jump in with mycomments then and then I have a motion that I'll offer to the board uh when Ifinish. Um, over the past few months, I've beenasked several questions along the lines of how did we get here and why has itbeen so difficult to appoint a seventh board member? Other than a simplesummarization of my belief that there are multiple board members who preferthe current imbalance, there isn't a short answer to that question.Therefore, I'd like to provide some additional context on this processbefore we finalize this round. This all started with the board comingto a consensus and unanimously committing to making an appointmentbefore moving on to routine business. Instead of proceeding under thatagreement, we had three board members who stood up from their chairs, walkedout of [clears throat] the room, and refused to return to future meetingswithout prior agreement. >> Member chair, we do do not need torelitigate this whole thing. And this is your>> these are my comments. It is my the floor is mine.>> How many minutes do we have left, Joy? We have 10 minutes for each individualto speak per the rules. And these are my this is my moment to speak. Instead ofproceeding under that agreement, we had three more board members who stood upfrom their chairs, walked out of the room, and refused to return to futuremeetings without a prior agreement in place to discontinue attempts to make anappointment. The broken quorum had a ripple effect throughout the districtwhen bills didn't get paid and other critical work wasn't addressed. As aresult, I made a proposal that would satisfy their demands and suspend theappointment process, knowing full well that it would likely lead to anindefinite impass. This impass has continued despite havingseveral extremely qualified applicants. There have been multiple applicants whohave been able to obtain three of the required four votes, including some thathave I have personally not supported. The first individual I did not supportran in the prior election and finished second to last with voters.>> This individual then proceeded to make a violent threat directed towards a boardmember immediately preceding the vote, >> seemingly because things were notprogressing >> in a manner that he felt wassatisfactory. >> There is a police report to that effect.The next individual that I posed admitting admitted to being associatedwith a local hate group during his interview,>> a hate group that continues to openly spread propaganda and false informationabout the district and has been connected to multiple threats ofviolence against board members. >> Since being rejected by this board, thisindividual has become even more entrenched with this group thatcontinues their attempts to further divide our board in our community.The other applicant I voted against made it a point to highlight her reputationas a rubber stamp for administration during her previous board tenure and herstrong political affiliations. >> Although I agree with her sentiment thatour community is in strong support of solid conservative leadership on theschool board and I respect the work that she has done over the years. I rejectthe notion of rubber stamping any proposals. Decades of rubber stampingand so-called boring schoolboard meetings resulted in reduced academicperformance, declining enrollment, irresponsible district fund balances,and a lack of trust between stakeholders, especially parents.These are problems I've made significant strides to correct during my tenure onthe board, and returning the board to a majority rubber stamp mindep was notsomething I was willing to accept. Conversely, there are a few applicantsthat I've supported for the appointment, starting with a highly respected retiredcolonel that was rejected due to a supposed lack of leadership experiencethat I still find perplexing. >> I believe he was um rejected because youweren't able to fill a vacancy with someone when the season>> point of order. Seeing that board members had a desire to supportcandidates from the prior election pool, I was also open to the idea ofappointing the next highest vote getter in the prior election. This appointmentwas rejected due to a lack of educational experience and inadequatecommunity support despite this individual garnering significantly morevotes than the applicants uh than the other applicant that was being promoted.In the next round, I put my support by an applicant who had significantexperience working in schools, has served on multiple board committees overthe years, and even lobbyed the legislature for muchneeded funding thathas significantly impacted the STEM program at Linal Lakes. Based oncomments prior to the vote, this individual was rejected because theylobbyed the legislature for STEM funding instead of transportation sparity.>> Tonight, we have another strong applicant in front of us forconsideration, one that stood out amongst the crowd that uh he was in, uh,Mr. Shawn Thomas. >> This is an individual who has receivedspecialized training in dealing with conflict and handling pressure.>> He's made significant contributions to our community. He's a lifelong resident,a Forest Lake grad, a chief in our local fire department. He served on boards,policy development, planning development uh departmentwide. He's a small businessin the area. He was instrumental in the reimagine 2025 program>> about him. Point of order >> and he's been a coach for over 20 years.>> He is a proven leader in our community who has continually shown that heunderstands collaboration and compromise in dynamic and critical incidents. Hisservice to our community and our and qualifications to serve on this boardare indisputable just >> and he would be an ideal individual tojoin us to help establish clear direction to move our district and ourcommunity forward over the next several months.>> That is why I'm putting my support behind Mr. Shawn Thomas and wouldencourage the board >> to do this as well.>> You just disparaged everybody except for who you choose.>> Call the vote. >> There is no motion on the table.>> Oh, let's make a motion then. You're grandstanding.>> It's not appropriate. >> To appoint Mr. Sha Thomas via boardresolution to fill the vacancy. >> Second.>> I second that. >> Okay, we have a motion in a second. Isthere any discussion on the motion? >> Well, member Christensen,>> um, I believe the process matters just as much as outcome and I have concernsabout the process and the manner in which the support for Mr. Thomas wasadvanced prior to interviews and the deliberation process and for that reasonI do not feel comfortable supporting his appointment and I will not be supportinghis appointment. >> I just want to add for my part that I'vehad calls from a community member and two parents on things that they're veryuncomfortable with on Sean Thomas's Facebook. I'm not on that. If I werelike you guys, I'd go look it up and I'd tell you exactly what it was. But I'mjust putting that out there that I'm not comfortable based on what they've toldme that they've seen on his Facebook. >> Could you share that with>> So the other thing I want to share is that you approached>> member Corkran during superintendent. >> Let's let's not go there, Gail. Let'snot go there, but >> with his name.>> Well, >> to call him. Yeah.>> Trying to manipulate the situation. >> Let's not go there. But I also have toYeah, I know. That's wrong. I know. But I also the Facebook that I'm not>> Well, I don't want to say disparaging things, but I also researched inFacebook and it was not pretty. I was very disillusioned by a lot of posts,real negative about the schools during CO. It was really bad. A lot ofnegative. It was pretty upsetting. And that's why I never called him because Iwas already pretty upset about him >> because of posts that he made during>> it was the negatives about the school. A lot of negatives about the school ofschool stuff. Well, I mean in I also think>> there was other things too, not just during co there was>> Okay, but you were bringing it up. >> Well, because it upset me and that's whyI'm bringing it up. You're bringing up post that he made during>> coh. >> Yeah. But>> um Okay, let's >> I shouldn't even look at I mean I shouldlet's step back a minute. Let's >> I don't want to say disparaging thingsabout anyone, but that is my >> Ken voting yes.>> Um member Tyson and member Corkin, you both brought up Facebook posts. Uh>> yeah, >> I am not aware of those. I don't believemember antinson is or member castle research.>> Can you please help the board understand what it is you saw?>> No, I think you understand and you can go look yourself because you looked upother people's Facebook stuff. So, go look it up.>> And when that occurred um like for the uh um the applicant, Mr. Cornier, when Irecognized that he was part of a >> Yeah. And you just disparaged a wholebunch of people. >> I uh I brought it up to the board. Ibrought my concerns to you for the volunteers. Can you please be morespecific about what concerns it was that you>> call for the vote? We have a motion >> signaling that we have our one hour isup. >> We we are up on our hour.>> I don't want to say anything more about it, but that's just I don't want to gointo details. >> Well, our 1 hour is up and we agreed toone hour. We still have an entire agenda to get>> this uh vote is pending, but due to the special order of business that we passeduh >> go ahead tick last week. Call for thevote. Thank you um Joy for letting us know the time has expired. Therefore, wewill move on to the next item on the agenda.>> So, we're not going to vote on anything. Why would we move on to the next agenda?>> Per the special order of motion or special order business that we passedlast week, >> we are moving on to the next agendaitem. Should we want to bring this back before the board? It will be before theboard on the 28th. >> Excuseorder. What are we talking about? I'm sorry.>> Special order. We set a one-hour time cap on this. That establishes a specialorder of business with a time box. >> The time box is now expired. So the work>> I make a motion for Tracy Templeton. >> Excuse me, member chair. The the we hadnine minutes left and then you >> said that you were using your 10minutes. Everybody had 10 minutes. So that's why the time ran out.>> The time expired. >> Isn't that what happened? I'm not toread as long diet tribe. >> I offered to the board to expend extendthe time. The board was not interested. >> No, we're not going there. We're not>> The time has now expired and we are moving on to committee reports.>> So that I nominated Tracy Templeton. >> So what so>> that motion is out of order. We are now on committee reports.>> You're out of order. So then we just don't>> Can I just say member chair, this is the kind of stuff that we're talking abouthere. >> This is the kind of Come on, guys. Thisis the kind of stuff we're talking about. lack of trust, lack oftransparency, trying to manipulate the rules. We had time to make a vote>> and you chose to take >> You were out of order. I made the offerto the board over 10 minutes ago to extend the time so we could have opendiscussion and come to a vote. I also offered to the board that we can move itto the 28th. The time has expired due to the special order of business that weunanimously accepted per your recommendation in the last boardmeeting. >> Throwing it in your face.>> We now need to move on to the next order of business.>> Can I >> if the board is interested, please reachout to me and I may put it on the proposed agenda to handle this nextweek. >> Okay. So, right now it's it's a deaddeal. >> It is a dead issue.>> So, we don't have anything on these people.>> Exactly. >> Okay.All right, >> we are now on to committee reports.>> Took my time disparaging the 916 report. >> Um, at 9:16 we had a presentation onteacher appren uh the teacher apprenticeship program. This was inincredibly impressive. Um 916 is part of the state's first registered ITRA. ITRAis the intermediate teacher registered apprenticeship collaboration program.There are four intermediate districts that have partnered with the MinnesotaDepartment of Labor, Labor, and Industry, and Minnesota StateUniversity, Mano. Um, I'm happy to report that all seven of the 916apprentices from cohort 1 are graduating um in May and cohort 2 just began yeartwo and cohort 3 will be starting in June. We also had our first reading ofthe uh fiscal year 27 budget. Um, as uh Mrs. Templeton mentioned in herinterview, we did uh years of service recognition for staff that completed 10,15, 20, 25, and 30 years, including uh Tracy. We had some policy work that weworked on and approval of the strategic actions for the 2026 2027 school year.And we also approved four contracts including the educational servicesagreement with Spring Lake Park, um the Aries Clinic agreement provideeducational service, the contract agreement with the city of Fidley, andthe food service agreement. And that concludes my report on 916.Unless there are questions. >> No questions.>> All right. Seeing none, we move on to uh AMSD. Dr. Massie. uh the AMSD monthlymeeting. Um in addition to routine business and the executive director'sreport, they had two guest speakers from the Minnesota State Board of Investmentrelated to the permanent school trust fund that was passed unanim notunanimously but with overwhelming support from the legislature and thatwe'll move on to um a constitutional amendment on theupcoming ballot in November. And they also had two guest speakers,Representative Brian Lawrence and Representative Carrie Ray Rrower. And umthey gave an update from the legislature prior to the adjournment last week. Andthat concludes my report. >> Thank you, Dr. Massie. That will bringus to our committee reports. Uh buildings and grounds. Uh DirectorAmber. >> Thank you very much. And thank you toJames Larder and uh Jim Caldwell for taking uh the meeting tonight while Iwas away. Uh the summer grounds planning we talked about again just teaming upour people to make sure our grounds look great. So far dandelions are going well.So that's wonderful. Lack of dandelions. And then uh we talked about our houseproject. This is a project that we are super excited about. Several years ago,uh the students in our uh industrial tech classes uh built a house and thenum they transport it offsite. Obviously, the buyer does and so we're back intothat uh cycle again of wanting to do that. And so it did go up for bid uh thefirst time and we did not get a buyer. We did lower the reserve on that um tosee if we can get somebody who might be interested. So it's on Facebook and alsoon the district website. So, if anyone's interested uh in purchasing uh the homethat the students would build, please look at those areas uh for informationon how to bid on that. It will also be in the Forest Lake Times.>> Again, more more local if we're going to be moving a house. Um and then summerconstruction Wyoming kicked off. We turned off the boilers and started totake out some of that stuff already, even with kiddos around. And thenmaintenance building, uh you will approve the bid later. So, we'll learnmore about that then. And that was our buildings and grouts meeting.>> All right. Thank you. Um, are there any questions?>> I have one question, >> director. Do we How many houses have webuilt roughly? Do you know >> that I don't I only sixth house or fifthhouse? >> When I was at the high school, we didthree houses. >> There you go.>> Okay. That that bid after the actual construction,>> correct? >> And sold after the house was built andthen awarded the bid and then moved off site.>> Did they do part of the cons concession, Dan, too? They Oh, they did a number ofprojects. >> I was just gonna say last last schoolyear was the um for the threshing area up in Holland. They did the ticketbooths for those. Um we have a partnership right now with>> Scandia Park and a coffee shop. >> Yep. A coffee shop. So, yeah. So, reallyexcited. So, yes, we have a lot of community partners um to come in and dodifferent things, but hoping to we've been scaling up from the the little woodholders and all the other stuff and and back up to that.>> And just to give them recognition, they built the softball concession stand.They built the concession stand up Fenway Fields,>> right? >> They built some of the dugouts overthere. >> Yep.>> It's amazing. >> Very talented. And they've been doing itfor a long time. And I just want to add um so it warms my heart to know that inthese struggling times where groceries are high and housing is bad that we'reselling a home that'll go to a family. >> Yeah.>> So thank you. >> Yeah, that's great.>> Yep. >> I'm just curious what levels of the kidsin um carpentry build the houses. Is it does>> advanced carpentry class? >> Oh, so there is an advanced>> prerequisite for Okay. Y>> we do also have several trades that are on board. So they come out and helpmonitor the site, work on all of the the items with the students. So yeah,>> a lot of quality control in there. >> That's so cool. I love it.>> Yeah, the items are built to code and they're>> very high quality. >> Yeah, they'll have to be inspected andeverything. >> Very impressive work.>> Yeah. [snorts] >> Is there apprenticeships going on withthat? that well [cough] I think the whole class is really in theapprenticeship but again working with um as I said several of the trades to tomake it happen excited about >> and I could have one of the things thatwe've talked about too is we have a number of like certificates that we canoffer the students that they can earn and we're we're always trying to growand expand that uh principal Caldwell talked a little bit about uh some of thedifferent certificates and stuff that we're aiming to add through this processas well. It's it's really incredible opportunity for students Thank you very much. Uh we we'll callyou right back for >> I'm not gonna go far.>> Um finance. >> Yeah.>> Yes. So uh finance tonight we were able to just uh get through our first or noteven through but talk about our first agenda item and that was the fundbalance policy that was in front of you at your last meeting. So we're justworking on kind of word smithing and figuring out uh how we want to proceedwith that policy. [clears throat] So I believe it will be coming back to theboard uh at some point. And then um we will get out the um budget status andthen budget adjustment information um just over uh we'll put that packet outand include it in the minutes. >> Thank you.>> Thank you. >> All right. That brings us to curriculuminstruction and equity. Director Jacobson.>> Yes. Uh thank you for letting me join you tonight. We had two topics on theagenda for uh curriculum instruction and equity. The first was our annual titleone uh uh public meeting that we do each year. It's one of the things that we doaround presenting uh information around title one funding. Um uh couple ofupdates for this year included uh um that the district going into next yearis going to receive a smaller piece of the overall state pie when it comes totitle one funding. It has le nothing to do with our percentage of students onpre-duced lunch. that doesn't factor into the state's uh methods for um uhfunneling dollars to different districts. Instead, it has everything todo with um broader census data around how many school age students we have inour system and how many are uh qualify for poverty related status. And so we'llsee a reduction there this year when we've already planned for that withinour budget. Um, we also talked about this year is the first year, the yearwe're within where we've had schoolwide title in our two title schools, thatbeing LO Lakes and Forest Fuel. Uh, those teachers now instead ofexclusively doing pull out uh services for students, they also do push-inservices for all students, which is a uh creates great flexibility within thoseschools. And so we we talked about Title One for a little bit, and then wetransitioned over into um the review of the 2022 math standards. Uh new mathstandards are coming through the state of Minnesota. These are exciting mathstandards. Uh heavy emphasis on data and probability across all grade levels. Uhcertainly something that is relevant for the career force today and going intothe future. uh our math one of our math coaches,both of them had hoped to be here, one could be here, uh presented on the deepreview that they have done both with standards and connecting that to uhpotentially new resources, new uh materials that we use in the classroom.uh a lot of uh make uh activities around ensuring that students have not onlytheir fact fluency but they have conceptual understanding around how do Iapply what I'm learning into new situationsuh and then understanding the the reason behind why we do certain things in mathif they can think mathematically and picture math in their head a goodconversation between member Castle and the math coach uh during the thepresentation um around just making sure that werobust math conversations in our classrooms. And um those were the twomain main topics. I think if it pleases the board, perhaps over over the summerI can uh come back and do a full board presentation on some of the things thatare happening in math coming up next year.>> I was going to ask. >> Yeah, [clears throat] I would love tosee it. Let's make sure that that that's a priority. I would especially enjoygetting your personal perspective as a former math teacher>> on exactly what what this is going to mean for our teachers and our staff andmaybe some of the questions that I remember when I I saw an earlier versionof this. It was um there might not be as many questions of when am I ever goingto use this and I think that's probably thethe most welcome change amongst our math staff but uh I'll let you speak to that.Yeah, we certainly want to end the question as to why am I learning this orwhy is this important? And we instead want students to be really excited aboutbeing able to do math activities that they find fun, they find engaging, thatwe shift away from um some people thinking that they're good at math andothers that they're not good at math. We want all people thinking that they havereally good math aptitude. So, >> for sure,>> uh the one thing I forgot to ask was about Okay. So, it's done. I I askedabout changing from the school free or reduced lunch to another method. Andwith the census, if a census is done every 10 years,there do they do a census for this especially more often than 10 years. Sogoing back to the title one conversation around how the state and well thefederal government um uh parsons out the federal budget to states and then thestate parcels out the state budget to to uh school districts. Um as I mentionedthey use and I they use what we call safe census data. I don't know how oftenthat is collected. I don't know that that's tied directly to the 10year. Ithink they use a number of tools in including um people's medical filingsand a number of other things in order to determine that that happens completelyoutside the school district. So I I could I could get more information toyou on that if you had interest member Castle but I have tobe share my limitations here and be able to explain that that formula from thestate level. >> Yes. It would be good to know that wedon't have to wait for another 10 years to say, "Oh, yeah.">> Yeah. Well, it readjusted on us last year. So, it readjusts every year. Yeah.And it's a and it's a and it's a it's a formula that happens 100% at the statelevel. >> Yeah. Thank you.>> There's nothing that we can do internally in terms of a district andgetting more free lunch freed lunch forms or anything that would that couldimpact that. >> All right. Any other questions?If not, if it pleases the board here, we'll move it as staff welfare before weget to the contract update. Um, Dr. Massie.>> Yeah, staff welfare. We had a limited agenda really. We get had an update onenrollment and how that ties into current budgetuh framework and parameters. And then we also spend the remainder of our timetalking about classroom supports for teachers as well as love differentlevels of support for students who might need additional support.>> Thank you, Dr. Massie. Uh we'll pivot here to the uh superintendent contractupgrade. I'll um provide some insight here and then I'll get member Corkransee if there's anything that I missed. Um we're still in the process of workingon the uh superintendent contract. I think uh between myself, member Corkran,and Director Jacobson that we've made some significant strides and we're veryclose to having this finalized. Um, of course, we brought it for legal reviewearlier this week and um no offense to any lawyers in the room if there areany, but that had to had to throw a wrench into things for us, right? Umsome of the statutory changes over the last couple of years have necessitatedmaking some changes. those changes have a pretty profound trickle down effectand I think in in fairness to Mr. Jacobson and fairness to the board. Umwe really need to consider um the side effect of some of thosechanges. So we have a a very fair and thorough contract moving forward. Sowe we were able to meet with some attorneys again today. Um, I think wehave some options moving forward and we hope to meet tomorrow uh to get thatsolidified, get it back off the legal for a re-review, have it on the agendafor approval on the 28th and have it to the public as as soon as possible assoon as the legal review clears it and uh um we are all satisfied. We we'lldefinitely have that available. Um I'll continue to offer the board updates as Iget them. The board does have access to and has had access to the draft contractthat we're working on. The draft contract when you review it is updatedin real time. So you can even see our notes and our comments. Um the onlyindividuals who are able to make those notes and comments are myself, Mr.Jacobson and member Corkran to avoid a serial meeting, but uh we want to beforthcoming with information so that when the contract is finally availablefor review, um you have adequate time to do so. And like I said, we'll we'll postthat to the public as soon as possible. Member Corker, is there anything Imissed in that summary? >> Nope. I think we're Yeah, I think wejust got to get it done. We're getting close.>> Yeah, we're done. Yeah, we're certainly motivated toget it done. I I feel like on Monday when we first sent this for legalreview, we felt like it was going to be a couple of hours and maybe a couple ofsome sentences and punctuation and instead it was uh statutory items thatgot in the way and um trying to carry forward some of the language in theexisting uh superintendent contract and director's contract is it it's been achallenge, but we will get there. I I I have no doubt. So, um, with that, ifthere's no questions that I can address, we can, um, pivot to the consent agenda.And I'll ask the board if there's anything between 8.1 and 8.4 that anyboard member would like to pull from consent.And if not, I will entertain a motion to approve as presented. [clears throat]>> So moved. >> I will second that myself.Um, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Those opposed.>> Right. That motion carries and consent [clears throat] agenda is approved.>> That brings us to action item 9.1. Adopt a resolution relating to the election ofschoolboard members and calling the school district election. Dr. Massie. Uhso this is routine as we um begin to prepare for the upcoming Novemberelection. you have the longer version of the resolution in your board packet anda summary of that resolution um is as such in the 2026 in 2026 threeseats are up for the November 3rd 2026 general election those currently held byJoe Christensen Kurt Rabeline Jr. and the board vacancy seat previously heldby Luke Hagglin. Uh to meet the legal timeline, theschool board needs to pass a resolution calling for the school district generalelection. Filing dates for the open seats are July14th to July 28th, 2026 with the withdrawals allowed until 5:00 p.m. onJuly 30th, 2026. In order to arrange for the timelyprinting of ballots, county auditors must be notified of the final candidatenames and filings by August 11th, 2026. And with that summary and the uh longerformal B uh resolution in your packet, administration would recommend yourapproval. >> And I would entertain a motion toapprove the resolution as presented. >> So move second.>> We have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion?All right. Seeing none, I'd ask the clerk please take a roll call.>> All right. All right. Member Corkran.>> I. >> Member Reveline.>> I. >> Member Tyson.>> Hi. >> Member Castle.>> I. >> Member Anne Johnson votes. I. MemberChristensen. >> I.>> Can I ask a procedure? Why did we take a roll call vote on that?>> Um, >> did we need a roll call vote on that?>> I don't think we needed a roll call vote. I just uh>> resolution. >> It's time. It's time.>> Well, yeah, it's it's a resolution, so it's customary to uh Yeah, it'scustomary to do a roll call. >> Resolution.>> All right. Just double checking action item.>> I Well, thank you for that, Member Tyson. I couldn't remember why I had itnoted as a roll call for me, but uh yeah, it was due to it being aresolution. And then the next three will be roll calls just because they're bids. >> All right. So, that brings us to umaction item 9.2, award dishwasher bid. Is that director?>> Thank you very much. Um, so several weeks ago, you approved uh to go out tobid for the dishwashers at uh Lynwood, the education center, and Columbus. Sowe uh opened those up actually just this week, a couple days ago. Uh and we'rereally excited. So we had um budgeted around we thought the half milliondollar mark. So, the winning bid 473 to uh 48 plus the alternate of 8,607. So,coming in under that projected budget was really great um for our food servicedepartment. Um again, all of this maintenance throughout the kitchens uhhas been needed for a long time. So, we're really excited to get going onthese projects and should be able to get them going throughout next school year.So, we'll do a couple over the summer and then we'll get one done, I believe,during the year. So, >> great.>> All right. Thank you. Are there any questions before we move to a motion?>> Funded through category. >> Funded through food service.>> Yep. >> Yep.>> Yep. [snorts] And again, rack construction.>> Yeah. >> All right. Thank you. With that, I'll>> work on it. >> I'll make a motion to approve aspresented. >> Second.>> Have a motion, a second. Any discussion? >> All right. Seeing none, member clerk.>> Roll call. >> Awarding the dishwasher bid. MemberChristensen. >> I.>> Member Antonson votes I. Member Castle. >> I.>> Member Rabine. >> I. Member Corkran.>> I and member Tyson. >> Hi.>> In the eyes have it. >> All right, that brings us to 9.3 awardmaintenance bid. I welcome you back, me director member 80.>> Thank you very much. Um, so on Tuesday, May 12th, uh, we opened up the bids forthe maintenance building. You may remember that we're redoing the roofthere. So, some of us took a tour in the buildings and grounds committee there,and you're able to see some light come through in some of the spots of theroof. So, needing to replace that along with fire suppression and then some ofthe ventilation system. And overall, uh the bids ranged from about 1.4 up to 1.7million. So, um we had good biders, total of four biders, and then thelowest bid, um being that $1.42 million. So, again, well within thebudget and able to um move forward with that project. Eert uh Inc. is thewinning bid on that one. And with that, we'd recommend approval of EERT.>> All right. Thank you, Director Amberghetti. I I noticed a a note hereon the the agenda that I kind of want to call out. It states that districtpersonnel will serve as the construction manager.>> Yeah. So, when you do a roof, um you don't have to coordinate as much uh forroof roof and fire suppression. Um EIRD is also kind of the general contractor,so they'll bring in the fire suppression people and the others. So, we don'tnecessarily need KA uh Cross Anderson, our current construction manager to dothat. >> Well, the point I wanted to make thoughis this is a kind of a testament to the the staff that we have here. You know,serving as a construction manager, although you you say that the project islimited in scope, I I had a construction manager manage the replacement of myroof, my house, so it's it's definitely a skilled>> process. So, I just wanted to call that out to>> the skill of this the local staff that we have and how it's going to benefitthe district and it's going to lower costs for us. So, um it's appreciatedthat when we do projects like this that you look in on opportunities like thatuh to keep the bids low. Um with that, I will move myself to award themaintenance building bid as presented. >> Second.>> Second. >> We have a motion, a second. Is there anydiscussion? All right. Seeing none, member clerk, pleasetake the roll call. >> All right. Awarding the maintenancebuilding bid. U member Reveline. >> I.>> Member Castle. >> I.>> Member Corkran. >> I.>> Member Tyson. >> Hi.>> Member Christensen. >> Hi.>> And member Antonson votes I. The eyes have it.>> All right. Brings us to 93. If this wasn't the last item of business, Iwould suggest we have a chair for director. But welcome.>> Thank you. We've been busy. Um so the dental bid came through uh again every 5years. We do the dental unlike uh our health insurance that we have to doevery two. So Delta Dental again it came through with a great price. We areself-insured uh for dental just like we are medical. So the main keys that we'relooking for our coverage limits and then also your per member per month fee. Sooverall Delta Dental um was very competitive with the others theircoverage. As you can see, some of the other areas were not provided. Um, sowe'd have to do plan changes if we went with somebody. Um, also there's a costof changing um, providers and so for staff and everything. So for consistencyand also the price of the bidding coverage um, the recommendation is DeltaDental from National Insurance Services. Good.>> Any questions before moving to a motion? If not, I'd entertain a motion toapprove as presented. So moved. Second. Okay,>> we have a motion, a second. Is there any discussion?Seeing none, member clerk, please roll call.>> All right. Awarding the dental bid. Member Christensen.>> I. >> Member Corkran. I. Member Tyson. I.>> Member Anne Johnson votes I. Member Castle.>> I. >> And member Rebeline.>> I. >> And the eyes have it.>> All right. I see no new business on the agenda. I will remind the board that ournext board meeting is on 5:28. I would entertain a motion to adjurnn.>> Some move. >> Second.>> A motion and second. Is there any discussion? I have something before youadjourn. >> Seeing none, all those in favor signifyby saying I. I. >> Those opposed.>> All right. Motion carries. We are journ.