[Music] our voices what first thing to do is have a pledge allegiance I congratulations [Music] the next thing we'll do is to have the Roll Call all right here in the names here commissioner bees here commissioner Carlson here commissioner haploid here commissioner Jorgensen here commissioner Carroll here commissioner Lewis commissioner Lewis and also president of the city administrator laner I'm going to be clear softball's concert okay thank you uh we have a meeting to policy so we'll be clear my thumb okay I believe that anyone that is public that wants to come up everyone can speak for two minutes yes we have a few minutes Mr chair yes Mr clarification this is a public hearing that doesn't apply to them don't buy the book again that's that's our open mic on the city but on public sharing people can get up we ask them to make their statements concise if there's a difference of opinion we have to alternate with a pro and a con and nobody can speak twice before everybody who's wanting to speak to him has spoken division now okay I think we do a lot of the reason for public hearing is to get the input so that varies all right the next thing we're going to have is the group for a minute meeting near Janet September 26th 2023. would you like to make that motion I'll make a motion to approve tonight's agenda please commissioner pearl made the motion a little second commission B's seconded today it's a further discussion not for college board all right all right opposed motion here all right as you see in there from the office meeting have not been completed in the relation to approve with Barack obvious news [Music] the first thing we're going to do is open the first public hearing the first public hearing placement of 3200 square feet accessories in the front yard of an existing development the presidential property in numbers 233 2521 and zero zero eight one one what we'll do is ask our final presenters she has thank you Mr chair uh the applicants are here Eric Christian Mullen uh they're proposing new accessory structure they've been thinking about it for quite some time I've been working with them on a place in other buildings they do reside on the corner a lot another off of 188 flame just wraps up now then Boulevard their properties of corn a lot like I said and somewhat irregular and cheap it also has a granite easement personal so um the tricky factor with this lot is that the actual front of the lot is the xenolip side because that's the side that has the least width of the screen but the perceived front is 188th Lane because that's where their house faces and from which they gain access so the variance is allowing this structure basically within the front yard but it appears to be the side yard based on the orientation of their home so um in the last year or so the city did change the ordinances to allow 800 square foot structure in front of the house um provided it meets certain criteria but they are wanting to maximize the square footage which is 3 200 square feet for this size of a parcel between Queen and five acres [Music] so even if they had attempted to place the building on the other side it still would have been slightly forward of the house and needed a variance in that regard to I think they've done a good job of citing it they're all the way back to the 20-foot set back on the south side of the property and they were able to maintain 160 feet or so from the center line of xenolip uh the minimum setback could be 120. so it's nestled background there's a lot it will appear um it will coordinate with your home they're going they're going to reside their home eventually so in the kind of gray tones but this is a graphic of the setbacks for the front yard in Fred and the received front yard in Hulu so right in this vicinity here is where we're proposing that building this is an enlarged diagram showing how they're new driveway will connect with their existing driveway and this photo is a site looking toward the building site and this is a shot from the road that shows the excess number of trees on this side of the property um they've got a little chicken coop on that side and there's a bit more of a drop over here and this is an area where we're showing the topography they did drain I feel it looks like for regraded to raise up the building and original so down here um you know will require some grade for the proposed structure but I think there's been a lot of thought that's been put into it and then lastly our office looks at or wants to be sure that what they're doing is not taking up the backup septic site that's required for your rehearsals and their current site is in this location it'll be just west of the proposed structure it's out in here so they do have room uh closer to xenolith to build a backup system if there's clean too or they can also eventually be sort of warnings Elsewhere on the site if they wanted to put it on the other side for instance so um our office does recommend a true World experience subject to the conditions as outlined in your findings of that the Africans what do you have anything to say I don't think so but this does such a great job if you clerk verify the legal Publications and mailings and postings are disappeared I can verify that Mr chair yeah had any questions they'd like to ask the applicants you know okay what we'll do is is there any way in the public if we have to make the comment to this request that they have for this application all things out of position you know what I I wouldn't work with you there's going to be a lot of work and there's a lot of field we've been there but we're just placed here is the ideal place it's really going to look nice when you have done it from the road probably we look real closer to be able to see if you buy it right here people see it because it's quite a way back now it was in front of the house and actually there's no other place you can put it oh my God if you have any questions no I mean I always get it as well and um you know directly into the north there's another property that is similar constraints and they already have them building there so it seems to fit I think it's uh the location that it seems like the uh we're driving by just like these are currently over the lot it makes sense to put it where it's planned and uh like it seems more like the front yard in the actual quadratically because of our ordinances it seems like we should have a it's a way that allow this to be done in the ordinance that makes sense let me help him with little variance in the future the reason why there's a problem here is because there's two roads going by the property we give their answers and tasks for this and have something like this the ordinance could have changed but I don't know actually how deep how it could be changed yeah in this case it's kind of a technicality you run into that every once in a while we have given a setback variances for some sheds that were tight on space but this one doesn't need a second thank you that's the crowd out here you need anything to say is your chance position [Music] will act upon it all right we have recommendations here from our planner and this God [Music] this is part of the Jensen development I hate [Music] I couldn't even find a Johnson Space anymore not only because they lived back here anymore it's really a nice area back in there I understand was something that I can make a recommendation commission checklist and make a motion to approve it as written up in the uh we have a secondary solution also Mr jorgas in the second hit and quiz our discussion see you then hold that say hi hi both and you guys are here all right thank you so much you guys thank you Tim okay okay it means Trisha what's that don't you miss the meeting outside but yes I miss you guys thank you guys next second public hearing foreign has to do with uh unless my restrictions all right it's not comparing now it's going to be here a porch front porch variation at 8966 North Lakes Road considered the approval of the burns that allow the cover front forks addition to the in six feet closer to Norris Lake to King number zero eight days two and three James Spring pipe is 32.008 is close to 100 years old it's illegal enough conforming all in terms of setback meaning that um it doesn't meet current setback under the coordinates at this time but in this day it likely been hit there wasn't any hundred years ago it currently lies 28.08 feet from the edge of the Railway and 80.33 E from the center line allows that quote defense are asking for to construct a six foot cord covered deck Edition across the front of the house on their near the intersection Nelly Boulevard and North before this is an enlarged copy of the survey that they had done with the requirement of variances showing the house is slightly tilted but the northwest corner is 28.08 feet from this dashed right-of-way line the actual paved street is quite a bit further into the United Way since it's just a two-lane Highway on the northeast side here 28.91 feet from the right open the sex this line end with actually who's their current fence line here's an area of shop with the house being the closest building to the room and this is the schematic um building will look with the deck Edition facing Norris Lake Road and then from the side plow five to six foot um encroachment in the setback areas for entryways and porches but the Netherland ordinance does not it's not too often that we see this type of request but I do feel that it's reasonable it's given me existing circumstances they did have had quite a lot of drainage problems on site they've been working with an excavator to repair the foundations regrade and their residing the house and everything and want to increase this overhang unnotic side of the problem this is the current shot in the front of the house from the road you can see your kind of in the process with instructions and as you drive up to the house there's quite a few trees really really love so um again when we review variances we look at correct difficulties and whether or not the situation was created by the current landowner the Thompsons bought this home um I'm sure one or two other people in the original owners and like I said it's legally non-conforming so then one of the other questions you'll be asking is this a reasonable request is this something that you know other people are allowed to do Under the terms of the poll and the answer for that would be yes the front portrait very common so in um our recommendation would be to allow this is based on the conditions outlining findings if there's any questions or discussion I welcome that thank you Mr plans you only have any questions I'd like to ask them see you now open it up at the freeway in the public and especially about to ask chair um applicants here too Mr John Thompson no Liz did a great job I forgot his name again public like making comments what I live in the final result pardon me you're getting implied making comments office all I have to say is to change the real nice the buildings around there look real nice [Music] I'm just trying to finish it off now so it really looks nice and and I think putting that portrait in the bubble really make that house of blood nicer too and make my decision is that drainage funds into many years before for people like Daryl and that used to be the old George damn place yeah awesome people don't remember that but anyway uh if there's no more questions that you want to ask public hearing you know our planner has recommendations here all right anybody have any problems here it's a very interesting it's illegal the way it is it's going to be a little more illegal it's once that board with that porch on with uh it's one of the situations it had nothing to do with it but went back I I don't know if you're with that for me oh it goes back a long ways and it was a small dairy farm you need to sort of words through poor well I was to an auction [Music] and that's been probably 30 years ago yeah [Music] and it was a tree farm but I don't know it must be on that yeah it was a dairy farm campaign we can't stand there that's uh Mr chairman yes I would make a motion to approve the variance subject to the conditions written I will second that motion okay commission Pearl seconded include the discussion CNN Louisville clarification it's not illegal it's legally non-conformal well anybody saying that they got any illegal places what's the difference thank you thank you [Music] yes at the point of order I believe since we posted this at 7 30. start okay we'll wait another six minutes then I'll turn the clock [Music] started with big aliens [Music] a legal requirements well maybe while we're waiting all over them upcoming projects for next month we have received two three last subdivisions one of those likes to go on corner of Mountain Boulevard community and that's three laps plus two outlets dust that Center off the tangent um it's very late at three levels a four there are family members so we also may have continue our discussion on the Landscaping fencing it's really ordinance which has been uh on hold for a couple of months you know you may have an interviews permit for a home business that's on St Francis Boulevard possibly now that gentleman has a asphalt business well that is no longer aware of coming up oh yes um the ambulon property okay you have to add here okay was purchased and they'll be a request to subdivide the portion of it into residential locks and then the gentleman is asking or we'll be asking for uh permission to change the ordinance to possibly allow assisted living in the existing Airborne residents so that is completely up to the city whether or not that would be allow currently our ordinance says references group homes and treatment facilities up to six people assisted living is neither of those under the state law so it requires an amendment the state law recently changed to allow cities to make the decision as to whether they want to allow assisted living and holiday residents some limited at five or six um with a maximum of eight in a residence they are now treated like you know 800 unit assisted living facility so they're licensed by the state and have you know many rules to follow so that'll be forthcoming but before he can actually ask for use he has to ask whether or not the city is willing to importance so that's what will come first the subdivision part of it is separate if the Assisted Living Part is not passed then he will either just live in the house or so let Paul messenger resonance clarify a question when you say ask the city for an ordinance change are you discussing it with the the council or the coming to our commission it will come through you as a public hearing yep Mr chair yes mirror and just just so you know this is coming through as a request from him it's only about property the entire state which is similar to what we had down in the southwest corner there that people are asking for a change but that anybody with Metro same conditions would have important property and more commercial if we change that from what we have this could apply everything [Music] yes current Origins right because this new one would be something that we don't currently have in our organization because of our Lives who are already desperate which is most of the city will be making a recommendation a decision to constant decision here a recommendations [Music] so either the the ordinance change can be initiated two ways by the council you know or the city and by a resident so when it's the resident initiated requests for staff laws just like um in all these books or somebody with some division or something yeah and the way you understand it then they'd be classified in school it's commercially oh no this is a lit this is a just a living environment where people with traumatic brain injuries or older folks that may have had a stroke needs some physical help social systems ending so they provide food you know we have meals just later any assistive living room and then they have a nurse that issues the medication so we'll talk more about that and hope you don't know legal right now 7 30 so late start the public hearing and uh did we read what it was before no you have to start it now okay public Hearing Instruments yeah interns used for men in seven four one one one 181 minutes Admiral Northwest considering any turn to use permit request to allow the outside storage on the landscape contractors Vehicles materials and equipment for temporary period of time building numbers 33-33 okay 25 is 43-0011 so at this time we've got our plan for example she has thank you so many of you may know um this is a longtime landowner and now then um her son apparently is an acquaintance of Mr vonderling who has a landscape business and he was leaving the place to store some of his business items after meeting leasing another property in another city that was sold so he's been in there or was in the process of moving in uh this summer sometime between May and honest the May 2nd area code shows no items being stored so to speak and then the August 31st area portal shows everything there um this family thought it was acceptable to at least an acre to Mr bondaland and since we've talked he's he's willing to reuse that area in size to about a quarter acre um it does require an interviews permit under our home extended business regulations uh the current location however the area of Florida so the county property is down here on 181st just west of Melvin Boulevard all the existing vehicles and Equipment are along the eastern boundary so that he had originally talked with the owner about kind of having this beast and for his items but since talking to him and him learning that there is a hundred foot setback he's willing to move things over and trying to reduce on what he has he was originally planning to auction off some of these trucks mostly pick up trucks and some with snow removal equipment while I was inside there are currently three containers on the property which are only allowed under our ordinance for six months um so I took a look at the distance of the proposed storage area from existing homes and potential homes and actually there are new new landowner the Howards right to the east here which would probably be closest to what they're proposing although I don't know when it's there but the proposed location of their home but to the north he's got about a 1500 foot setback and then to the South we've got 800 feet 615 feet you know 1100 feet to the surrounding areas here's some photos coming into the site I'm looking at the storage area from a distance and then this shot is from Sharon's driveway looking across the field toward the East and here's some shots of the immediate storm area at the present time so kind of a variety will be putting it in the vehicles many of the vehicles or in some of the trailers appear to be unlicensed and possibly enough rules so we'll have to chat about that generally we don't like to see inoperable in their own license the ordinance really only allows two per property um so we want to keep that in check and [Music] in talking with the city attorney so the ordinance reads they live in your report when it references leasing of space I believe that the original intention there was a week ago releasing of indoor space such as shed space building space but it's not defined so I'm talking about the City attorney he was saying that it is legal for them to ask for this as our ordinance regulations are currently worded and since Miss peony is the owner Mr mandolin is the lessee we can move forward with that but we also have the ability to establish a deadline date and conditions related to the storage so I have gone ahead and drafted findings to be subject recommendations [Music] and I do think it's positive that Mr bondolin is willing to move the site slightly um you get it away from the property line I have had four calls related to this public hearing so I will read some comments that I got by email uh for the record and then we can talk about excuse me the findings that I've taken a stab at you'll see some question marks in those findings where we need that talk about it or fill in the blanks so the first email I received states that we have been known in residents for 20 years invested and improved their property immensely in that time we are expecting a sizable return on our real estate investment in the future this massive outside storage puts our home value injectory Jeopardy we have watched trucks and trailers and semi trucks falling up huge containers and multiple Vehicles over the summer it was extremely low all of this is now visible from our Outdoor Recreation Area use an eyesore and looks like a junkyard we are not in favor of any football storage on the peony property we would recommend it all be removed as it is in violation of the not in city code [Music] uh second email I received on the 18th of September uh it says I do not have an issue with storage of equipment and materials on this property as long as the materials are not chemical and our only rocker Lumber Etc no chemical material storage meaning anything to kill plants kill weeds bugs Etc no chemicals otherwise they are fine to park their stuff there we have many places in Ramsey doing the same thing you have an animal shelter we have a gravel pit we have many horse and sheep in Alpaca farms on either side of 181st Farms are going away to either housing and we need to preserve them yay for Farmers trying to make money please help the farmers to help the small landowner no houses let the small landowner do something with their land Mr chair yes can I asked atmosphere where is it no she was just referencing and say we have AMC doing the same thing but this is a resident of Melbourne basically across the road it's pretty much crazy yeah I believe it's on one yeah um the last one I got your references uh 20 to 25 Vehicles out there plus a number of trailers that do not look well maintained of the ones that we um could see appears that many have outdated license plates and some are missing from the front plates um there is one trailer that has a used hot tub strap down to it there is a stack of bags of who knows what chemical learning needs there's a portable sprayer laying in the weeds with a half full of indigo an unknown chemical there was a trailer with a 200 gallon tank cap full of chemicals who knows what that is trailer has a missing axle in one situation to this person's knowledge storage containers were not allowed um this resident applied to verify who actually owns the equipment um and and then again reiterated the need for licensed inoperable vehicles and trailers and then um it is true that to have to use chemicals of any kind there is a license through the state I believe so we had another Resident with a long business at one point we have made a large Financial investment in our properties between me and my wife and our other neighbors it is disappointing that we could end up with the equipment graveyard in our backyard I'm refrain from calling it a junkyard has one man's job is another last character but I don't think it's right that looking at it um every day at sunset thank you okay so um like I said let's take a look at the findings and kind of talk through what you are feeling or wishing [Music] that's the one I just brought tonight before you go to that you're just yeah reported to get all the names have been made out for me oh yeah [Music] okay he's an applicant here yeah yep thank God [Music] uh well we can make one before or after so I mean whichever one of you guys would like to go into what uh to plan our answer first because tonight's the first except we've got a hold of all these facts that she's got on me they've been working on this and she talked to our lawyers somebody I don't want to get a chance to read in the internet yeah based on the attorney's interpretation is used to allow the leaves but it is recommended that we establish a deadline um so this is not an open ended inter release tournament when it is an intern is currently you can establish a deadline so um the first and the second page are copies of what our ordinance requires for conditional interviews permits and it specifies when they need in their equipment and that he's willing to reduce this area down from one of your order acre um then on the third page um similar continuation of expendable modification requirements and then on the fourth a was where the recommendation begins where you can legally establish conditions as part of the IEP so in other words the first one is referencing hours about ovulation he made that from what I hear even come and go daily from this location but I think it would be best to limit his coming and going if he does need to do that to find a regular office hours and I'll be seven or eight in the morning to five or six at night so I love that blank so we could get Mr mandolin's input as well the hours I mean I've only been up there once per month for one day I just drive up there as well as far as the time you know that I'm not a compressor to worry about it I like to speak up in the evening because obviously it's after work stuff but well the way I have it written that you wouldn't be able to move equipment coming in line I'm not saying um is that okay okay none of that equipment is designed to move from don't say so I'm not coming up there to move equipment out is meant for story straight story okay so what is your plan if I might ask as far as did you find an auction house to deal with or I know you were working on it right and I'm working with the company of the cabin it's in an online auction house that is an Elk River and we're working on things so like what are is the suspect of timeline or do you have any idea getting rid of what you want to sell I would like to have the stuff in November be my auction name that I met just remove a lot of that stuff I'm still working with my banker and I can just do a little presentation to explain where I come from and what's going on there you know if you you want to stand up so I've been in business since before uh doing uh Lawn Care I know everyone likes to call it Landscaping but I stay away from that terminology because that means you always want to be moving dirt hauling stuff and stuff it's not that kind of activity that I do I do lawn care and we do snowfall so most Vehicles out there are going to be listed as snow removal equipment um we were in Blaine in a commercial site I think this goes 10 years back now and Blaine liked it when we got containers to be our fences so we would Shield everything and then we paint the containers green so that they wouldn't be uh isomer you're not seeing the blue or you know what I'm saying different colors On Your Horizon it's just the dark green looks like a tree-ish kind of color covers everything up when we were there then we got out of there and then moved our working facility one place and then just needed a storage facility for the rest of the equipment I know a lot of people like well why are you hanging on to all this equipment trust me my wife beats on me all the time it's not my idea I am in litigation with a couple companies that I had purchased and I'm required to hang on to equipment until they'll stop so that's where a lot of this comes now one of the litigations have come to term I have one and that's why I can sell most of that stuff so you're thinking all the pickup trucks on the top all those white ones and I'll just call it Ada you know those all came with that first purchase problem and uh now the banker the lawyer himself to release the liens back to me so that I can then get rid of that equipment I don't have to hold on to it anymore now I have multiple friends up on this side of now and 20 and North and they recommend that I come up here I tried buying property this spring apparently did not work out I was not the high guy so uh in the place I have just the storage stuff at it that guy then turned around and sold his land somebody finally hit his magic number he said he was never gonna sell because he ran his business out of that property somebody must have dumped a lot of money on them so he gave us six months he's like you gotta go and so we were like I say this spring then looking for places to go we had a couple opportunities in this neighborhood same with ones just east of us all the way over to East Bethel uh nothing seemed to work out during that process I had contacted Liz on the light side we didn't get into details but uh just about having because we'd be having the exact opposite obviously building of a large building and I got my property done here we'd be doing that and I would then be pushing everything in there so we were under the understanding and like I say if we don't check into it you don't know so they're the understanding that she could have some stuff stored out there we knew that we were going to be reducing the size of some of the stuff but just needed temporary storage for non-us equipment you know somebody in the email is listed that those we'll call them fertilizer tanks have liquids in them there is no liquids in any of those tanks I can confirm that you got the big one that's on the trailer that was in one of your pictures and then there's a smaller one that's sitting on the ground that is empty too it had water in it and where nope there it is impossible up there yep that's the big one that's the 300 gallon unit there's nothing in it that thins your eye and then the red one is in the bottom right yep right there and that if anything just has water in it um that was given again that's part of the litigation that one's broken and doesn't work so I don't have to can't do anything so again you know a lot of those yellow clouds down there those all come with the first litigation so I want to get rid of all that that tree chipper on the right side oh I guess on the left side there you go that's gone yeah um the two little tractors I'll have to hang on to a little longer so yeah blue ones are a little white one yeah um yeah and I unfortunately got stuck with this good hot tub I know you should have dumped it I think you could dump them at the dump and walk in the corner I should have done that before I brought it up but again a non-use item um big enclosed trailer is good to go like so when you look at the whole thing half of it's easily ready to go right so that's where I'm going to be trying to get rid of for November the rest of it like I said we I all this stuff is spread out so it looks like it takes a lot of room every place I've gone to has usually given me an acre but I don't need an acre like I can stuff that stuff all into a kind of corn so now that I can get rid of half the stuff I only need a quarter Acres I would like to have a quarter acre whatever consider in the red circle-ish up by the barn I would like to keep the three containers to be the screen paint goes green to hide the effects of anything that you'll be able to see and then we'd be down to just uh what I would consider a handful of things I'm thinking like the sheet said when me and Liz talk she lists the Bobcats which I put the Bobcat inside that container so again they don't you know what I'm saying they're they're not going to be outside they're not going to be seen when we moved everything out of out there it is still set up and what I consider a moving phase it's all spread out because that's how we picked it up that's how we loaded it that's how we transported it and that's how we got it off so we never got up there to finalize make everything what I consider look pretty before this stuff all started coming down so then I've just stayed away from up here because there's nothing I can do everything's out there that I want I now know what I can get rid of the lawyer told me last month that I've already talked to the banker and he's supposed to actually call me tomorrow for my titles uh to get rid of half that stuff and so I just want a little area quarter acre use the containers as my screen and just hide the stuff up there for a little while longer hopefully I know there's still a couple properties out in the boat nothing's uh as pretty as the stuff that was this spring but looking for short term so that I can find a place then and then continue on that I just don't mind when I think those because the containers become a necessity for the screen and I I guess I'm just that way because that's the way I just made a nice easy beautiful barrier and they were paintable anybody have any questions that offhand they want to ask I just want to make sure that you know not bringing materials up there I'm not on site for anything I'm not storing stuff no chemicals on that site all that stuff or that the other places [Music] these are just straight vehicles that are looking for storage okay thank you Pioneer here's the one with the finance effects that we sat in front of us here so Mr finally you read the finding Financial um are you okay with that November 15th date I think because the containers are not permitted more than six months are there exercises yeah there are extra copies of the time on the back table if anyone okay um I mean we don't give up if we don't get the containers out before winter then we're pretty much stuck with them you know in a spring um right and that's why I bring up I use them as a screening if you guys don't want to use them as a screening then obviously you're getting ready to go thank you [Music] so um you'd be okay then if we're talking hours just 8 A.M to 6 p.m in five days a week Monday through Friday night weekends if you when you know if and when it comes time to move I don't know before I come in November say we have our auction every year different environment but yes did they come to your side or do you have to follow them to the option they will they're looking at selling them on site for not bringing homework to their space so people would be able to come in they don't necessarily have we could again this gets into the whole thing I have not planned on anybody coming to help the site to see anything anybody who's buying any of those items it's like buying a generic piece you know what it is and you know what it does there's no reason to come look at it okay so yeah yeah they were to ask you then remove the containers and basically come into compliance and reduce numbers of items November 15th is reasonable to you right now that's sounding very very good yep okay Mr chair yes come here can I just ask any since it's public hearing get the other input here before you go through all the details and sure because then it might weigh in on who residents okay all right do you want to let the residents speak up before you go into the details and then have to make the residence backtrack because the residents here don't want to speak it's public here and give them a chance to speak okay yeah we could do that is there anybody here like to speak to this I would love to thank you I would love you too your name and address my name is Carolyn Olson and I live to the west of this property um 7361 181st and November I am not in favor of any containers can hate containers or not screens you can't paint containers they're I just say those containers have got to go I I if if there's a November 15th date um it has to be compliant with we're I have lived all summer long it was Mother's Day weekend when there was a truck coming up with a hot tub there was a truck coming up with the trailer with six uh six paws on it that that's not during working hours that's during Mother's Day when I've got company over and there were semis coming up the driveway I mean it was non-stop noise all summer with this stuff coming up it's ridiculous and nobody's containers are like by my bonfire area it's it's it's not screening it's not done neatly there's if there's vehicles on the license it's ludicrous it's it's we've got property we've got expensive valuable property the person here that is paid a half a million dollars for property that wants to build a house we can't look at this it's it's not storage it's not outdoor storage we don't want it to be a quarter acre storage we don't want it moved over or a setback it's like it's it's her home it's your home this is our property this isn't for someone to come up here because you can't find other storage property like you'll have to buy something find something like this is a residential area we're living here these are our homes you can't and and the distraction and the noise and the semis and the Bobcats and the plowing of the road it's been all summer long I've been really patient until I see containers that I'm like I'm it's it's beyond ridiculous it just is ridiculous that this is storage it's not a storage area it's not any this property is not storage we have beautiful places in London that we're all living in you know properties when you don't want to look at storage all this stuff and trucks that don't have license plates and I it's it's bizarre to me it's bizarre and the the your this dirt road is is right so close to my property and all this coming and going and all all day long and on weekends and I guess there was nothing put down as far as a time frame or days of the week but it wasn't even done you know it wasn't it wasn't done it's Mother's Day weekend like I say it's not done very respectfully of people that are that there's resonance you can see that there's my home is right there it's just it was I I think it's just disrespectful look at all this and and then another the semi that comes up with a com with these containers there's no other way to get a container up this driveway other than a semi just yeah anyway I am really upset I I I just I can't believe that this looks like this it's and I I don't want something to be passed that's is a temporary thing that oh we didn't get it out in November and oh now it's here till summer and uh this all looks all parked and all parallel whatever but we know what things look like when it's left unkept and there's nobody gonna mow this there's nobody gonna take care of this weeds weeds grow like crazy it's I I just I think it's I I just it's not a storage area and this attorney whoever you know whatever this it's so vague whatever this finding is that that it can be that it should have been indoor storage or for a pole barn or a storage area well this there's there's no one door storage here this is an indoor storage and I really can't there there's no containers to be painted to be a screen containers are containers storage containers are storage containers they're not screens I don't want to look at it this potential neighbor doesn't want to look at it but has now purchased a very expensive piece of property it's like so anyway that's that's my that's thank you we understand your position and this is something where we will be looking at if somebody else want to come up just don't repeat things and she said I can't see that fired up definitely um Tony Howard and I addressed the yeah she referenced uh uh my purchase was a 182 uh 88 novel Boulevard East and I would say the most immediately affected Miles because it has sphere planning on building a house I actually two uh two houses probably one for myself and one for my son my wife we're making it a family complex and the reason we bought it before we bought it there was nothing there right because it's just the only house in their Barn which you're okay with and you know we planned on setting our house up so we could look at the sunset every night we had an area all picked up now you have a storage area with less than beautiful trucks when we parked there right so who wants to look at that when you have a nice Sunset and you have storage boxes and trucks and equipped he actually paid a half a million dollars to 575 thousand dollars for that property and plan on investing a hell of a lot more so there's nothing saying that those that equipment will be gone when you said it's going to be gone they got there for a reason he didn't ask put it on the property that'd be like the first red flag so I know exactly what you guys are putting up with and dealing with it I appreciate everything you do um you know part of one thing I looked at is the your ordinance on um that might help you a little bit extended home occupancy uh Shelby Shelby carried on by one or more members of the property owner's family who shall reside and the dwelling unit but not more than one full-time or two part-time on-site boys that's another thing that hasn't been talked about here what employees coming back and forth you know you can say it through your boom in the face but there right there it says you are and said he can have employees coming back and forth okay then towards the bottom of your ordinance um one one dash 151 rental local space for storage boats Vehicles Etc are considered as extended pulled occupants are subject to interim use provisions so in other words I take that as the owner of that business has to the owner of the property has to own that business to have that storage facility that's why I read it right so he's not an owner the owner doesn't belong he doesn't own any of that property of the of the home so it's not performing again because he's not a resident of the own of the property does that make sense so it that's it goes against your ordinance in that aspect as well so not here I'm just here to voice my opinion and then get a result right um I hate seeing it I go out there and start every two days and see it see what has happened out there making sure it hasn't gotten any worse yeah so I appreciate appreciate your time and I appreciate what you guys are doing so thank you thank you we're aware of what the organ says uh we're aware of what the ordinance within our ordinance so we're trying to deal with this thing we will be dealing with this a little later on okay is there anybody else in the public school um [Music] yes go ahead I'm going to call the printer yeah come right up front give you a name I I just had a question maybe how did this originate unless you come in late unless and I missed it but so how did could you give your name an apple skip Carnell and I'm at 7263 181st Avenue Northwest [Music] [Music] was that he was looking at land and he called me about the ability to build a structure I never spoke with him about calling it up anything about the other story so he just on his own the court brought up to go and Parker correct when he worked up well he's yeah he's focused wow I see okay so that's a big deal and I mean it starts there it started in a lie so that's that's a big deal we I'm not so opposed to the look because I can't see it like shoot him I can visualize what she could see um but uh I'm also you know you talk about exiting thing in the commercial refrigeration business I've seen so much of this going on I think and this is more you know downwards where like Adler steel or where there's a lot of commercial and I just don't understand why he would put it in the residential why you wouldn't go down to a commercial area like you know like uh yeah with a steel or that kind of area where it's just strict with the commercial it doesn't fit at all and um so my question is I'm not as opposed if he doesn't get it out on time but the question is how do you put teeth in that who make sure he does leave continue on squatting you know much longer so but that's what I want to find out how it actually starts okay thank you is there anybody else that can make comments towards this [Music] CNN we're going fighting effects Mr charity spot clarified to the best you know my interpretation of these Technical and occupation ordinance was what Mr Holland was saying I feel like it requires you to be the owner and live in the house but yet it also allows you to leave space to me that's contradictory I called the city attorney who specifically asking that question and he disagreed with me and said the way it reads you need to allow this he says you can put an end date on it and it can be stringent with your conditions but you need to move forward the way it reads if you don't want to release any you know address in a leasing situations in the future you may change your ordinance but not until after this request is decided now I wholeheartedly believe that the intention of the leasing section was intended to be indoor space for leasing those structures because there were one or two older uh conditional use permits for many years ago where buildings released so it was probably ear to that but because space is not defined um you know that that complicates it so as I tried to draft these [Music] um like I said November 15th well let me go back so the process is if we are to set a date and end date and first a compliance date if it's November 15th and he has to have those Vehicles out of there and he doesn't then the interviews permit won't be go into effect until he is in compliance on that date if that's what you said as your compliance name if at any time you violate the conditions um this county is the responsible party she will receive letters and citations based on Mr bondolin's actions so they have to be intricately you know both understand exactly what's being said here or recommended okay so the best we can do at this point even though turning books out for the city and you know a pretty badass family Church to court that are unwanted so we don't need any lawsuits we respect him and you know unless there's something different that comes up between now and the city council meeting and understanding Mr chair yes I got a couple of things the clarification is consider this this said that you had painted your containers dark green to bloomed in you don't see any dark green containers are not the ones that are in the city these ones or the ones from the other storage I didn't have now that's good that was a industrial Zone commercial storage and you would you mentioned you'd consider painting these haven't done anything sometimes in Minnesota leaders we turn white senator of dark green it looked like in the winter my life into the summer but the problem the question came up here as to whether storage containers could be used in the screen he says the identity storage container by the 15th of November you had intended to score some of this equipment in those surgeons how were these storages containers went wrong [Music] they would probably be uh next to the truck okay and then I put them all around the site the ordinance requires in that outside storage materials this is the nine eleven four dash nine H all outside storage television screens review there is outside storage where it could be used for the extent of home audio education so again I don't know what your discussion was with alternative but send home occupations may be committed um if there's any equipment used for the extended home occupation may be committed such storage componential setback location maximum size requirements of success respect for all outside storage shelving school for review and that's it also that then goes into setbacks and send it closer that update your fencing as well and then we need to be able to find the definition of what screening would be I don't know what that containers I think it also obviously needs clarification by the council with our attorneys outside storage materials and equipment used for extendable marketing patients and this is for defining this as the Hallmark of Aging like it's not the first criteria of being run by one or more members of the property owners handle and then the other part of that is at least 90 CM releasing his face to another person confirm requires Peter Neutron that mustard came by this property owner of that seat if you're dealing with this again with Miss aoni because if there's any violation she lives there she's the financially responsible for it and be able to get somebody to learn about that proportion of it so she should be speaking to the conditions I'm not going to survival in because he is from last year so just to clarify some of those things make sure that again you've got the ordinances in front of you and the references in front of you're starting to clarifying should you not recommend just go forward or if you do what conditions you want to see Mr Jennifer I have a multitude of questions but I'm going to attempt to remove pretty simple and so piggyback off what Mr Pilon was saying I understand that most of the equipment and or Vehicles items on a property are not going to be used that was just exact words my concern is is then why are they in the property why are they having a push to leave the property um how many storage yards do you actually have different places yeah no I just got a place I operate out of and then one facility okay you had mentioned other storage chairs so I was wondering at one time so back five years ago we've been multiples I don't know if anybody else understands what litigation is but it can be years months before anything is settled do you have any proposed answers on that for me being free to get rid of all this stuff two years I would be out so not not short-term no okay so you're talking two years is now two months what two months is for some of these items right but the majority of items and that's what my question was in regards oh the rest of the items how long and now you're talking two years no no no no if you were asking about the litigation where I have to keep some of this stuff under two years that litigation will be solved okay so you've already started the process of focus okay because I can take up to five years or okay um well again my friends up here had told me that you know I should be looking at the property up here obviously most people think you're gonna have stuff you gotta get outside the city limits in the big series and I can uh well I thought I had purchased the property but apparently uh that did not go through but yeah I'm looking to purchase and uh you move over there if that happens prior to uh the litigation by no means am I looking to stay I don't want to cause any problems I just need a short-term fix oh it seems like uh she was just trying to help you out temporarily correct yeah I know her son and he do the predicament that was in and he's like well Mom could probably help you out you know Source line stuff so that is how we got our foot in this path um like that's right I know intend on keeping anything on her property my intention is to buy a piece of land and do my own thing either way most of all this equipment is due for uh so my one litigation's over that was four years so that's where I'm gonna get my leave my titles my name releases so my back hurt and those will go that I'm shooting for November getting rid of all those I would like to use the containers as a screen I thought it worked good and blank the people don't want it I mean I get it but it does make a nice cover so you don't have to see anything uh the Howard property is that an angle where you're not going to see anything not going to have a house on that property for a year so I'm hoping to be out of there by then you know we'll definitely be down to me like I said before events and items the way the way I understand if the lawyer is recommend the things that they have to do and and this is why we got these funny the factors here we've got to deal with it and the way there's going to be a legal way to handle it so I think we still got to go on and look at most of these uh things in fact my internet too and deal with it I have one more question go ahead um with your shipping containers you said that you stored some motorized items in them are they vented that seems like a hazard to me Well normally I store Wildcats in there again is it better they do yeah what is your concern for flammable okay flammable I mean shipping containers are in essence made to be enclosed area completely sealed tight right so my concern is that if you have flammable liquids inside and you have the door sealed and there is no beds actually in them open right and when people think about them they stay sealed they mean wind water kite by rubber seals they still have on them little bed box not all of them do but yes oh I'm sorry yeah yes I understand but that's why I was asking you because yeah Mr chair yes um so this um gets denied by this economics what's your plan well uh should come on after I mean obviously after stuff I don't have to worry about it I'm already looking at getting rid of that um I would have to quickly try to find some other place which I mean everyone thinks you know that that's easy but it's not a lot of people that have space it's always rented for a term and they don't know the term never seems to line up with when I want to move right like they'll be like well next spring I have a guy that's moving you can have this one well that's not an option if there's anything you know what I'm saying so then it just it it's a hard game trying to find a place so theoretically if the interviews permit was denied you would be out of compliance and it could be by groups that they have the findings and everything to get the no fines my final question um you said you have a work facility work location must be locked secured no yes why wouldn't you want to store these items there Jersey there's no room tour it's just a consider it like like a retail strip center but in a commercial area you only get so much so there's like 2 000 square feet of warehouse space and then the office you're not going to get all this stuff in 2 000 square feet and that's the size storage area [Music] consideration is where the audience is going away by November will there be enough room in that 2017 towards an essay we'd be looking at uh 10 Vehicles you're not going to get that in there so of all the stuff you're saying is going to disappear there's going to be at least 10 vehicles [Music] it's going to be like four trucks two trailers with Bobcats the dump trailer so then you have two tractors or one's a utility vehicle want a full trailer is that gonna go and then uh the two classes she said yeah okay [Music] but as far as to like pickup trucks you said we were getting rid of them already so there's 20 out there right now well there's like 17 maybe okay um working whether it's 13 17 20. I remember would you put the shipping containers if you're not allowed to do that here because they're not exactly something is equal and again if you're not gonna allow I would have to figure something out okay you know what I'm saying I'm not fighting the rules I mean if that's what you're going to say that's what you're going to say and I'll have to deal with that foreign [Music] trailers and dump trailers that would there be equipment on those trailers or is it just an empty trailers [Music] [Music] well I remember look into your chair yes I'm here um let's talk about these 17 or so trucks how many of them are currently licensed all alone license uh for the last few years [Music] and I mean that truck that's sitting out front used to be a daily use drug s it's just sitting up there by chance those pictures and one with the orange trailer right there [Music] normally if I put everything in the containers almost everything on that knee sideline all those clouds all that stuff goes in those containers I mean none of that stuff would even be out like I said it's just all set out for a movie to the point of the auction how much do you have a list of the things you've now been freed up to sell and those things will be an option anything the bank will give me a title too I'm getting ready you have a less than that no and again I was hoping the banker was going to have something to me today just anywhere foreign [Music] [Music] the existence of this stuff well there's going to have to be dealt with let's face it there's so many things illegally being done I missed Mr chair can I asked this before you get into the details then so lives on on condition number six don't forget in operable on my license is on site [Music] well because I was suspecting that it was some of these ones he was getting rid of so the kind of compliance you would need time to remove I was just trying to be original I guess and be consistent in a date for compliance okay thank you for just a close-up for the time to do the comments you can't pull the public health care so it looks like you've been close to hearing if you'd like because everybody has spoken okay chances okay so hours 8 A.M to 6 p.m I've been subscribing after storage area is limited to one quarter acre as shown on the site plan we located a minimum of 100 feet from the easterly lot line the parking with vehicles and equipment and any outdoor storage was limited to the following four pickup trucks two flatbed trailers one dump trailer [Music] you know about how many attachments you have here I guess no outfit I would not guess a dozen or well no I mean there might be eight different attachments between the two tractors okay uh so one tractor and one utility vehicle one enclosed trailer is what I have not including the containers [Music] is there anything else you can think of that have small one of those last ones that well again I I didn't want to get nailed down to exact specifics of which vehicles because I don't know which titles I'm gay we have to nail it down exactly because otherwise we don't if I go out there and I don't have an exact list I don't know if you're in lines or not so if we'll take a stab at it tonight if it changes slightly and comfortable we can talk about it again but if you don't have your stuff by then I don't know that you'll get an answer but um yeah anything else you can think of right now so in reference to Mayor Pilon there was one track here Mr Mayor up here on the picture and then this utility vehicle this is the enclosed trailer here in the chipper chipper you said it was glowing I thought should be cuz I don't remember that game with the first literation okay what about the tank uh a little a little sap to stay or a little but I think well the fake uh again like I said I used to put those in the containers like I said I used to stuff and all those tractors and bobcats that chipper you just put it all in the containers so that they were never out and about I mean they're not an eyesore and I you know I can't exactly say you know I the big 300 gallon tank was definitely stating if I have to I'll run it to the other yard and find a spot for it though it's shot that like I say that red one a little one I plan on getting rid of them [Music] how many gallons is the big one 300 okay and you were gonna get rid of someone about them correct this is this is one of the flat beds that one's normally go with the shop there's one that says oh come on here okay well we'll keep it at that for an hour um so any additional screening or fencing this is not going to be a permanent there this is not permanent no I mean but you do have you know the ability to ask for it I mean offering the moving away from the lot line but do we understand that we want that all removed but person made right there yeah that's the whole thing yeah you're going to require any screen you can explain now and comes to make to make recommendation to okay that's a good question well plantings wouldn't make sense to the screening items right so it would either be a fast or um allowing them to have one container or something I don't know since Jordan says all outside too much shall be strange computer we can well you could ask for offense foreign from the conversations of the neighbors that showed up and then the ones that wrote in it sounds like they don't want permanent anything they'd be fine with maybe a natural screening Maybe but doing that before the end of the growing season right now is kind of solid it's not going to happen because whatever we put in chances of it making it till spring will be very soon especially for it it has to be up to any damn size oh Mr chair yes there are trees that can get transplanted in fall but we would for screening at epidine Pines and a decent size and the care like awesome designs we're like young which they are a lot of TLC and and my understanding is we require from even in commercial areas a certain amount of screen or storage areas especially if you're invisible you yeah residential areas this this is the thing that father to me is the history of clean up this mess down here and this is worse than this is that mess down here a lot worse than that it should have never happened we apologize should never happen so let's get rid of it as soon as we can because it should never happen because uh he's been busy he should have knew he had to be in a commercial area for something like this yeah because there's no reason why it could happen it was handy to do it and so what this is why it was done and you know the mess we had over here we just got through cleaning up because of the same thing hi Mr chair yes we again for your considerations information I understand nobody nobody's looking at permanent screening and I do trades this time of year spices and practical but you can require sleeping as part of your conditions and it's temporary offensive it's important offensive and if you come down afterwards you're talking to me retire in 78 months now looking at things really uncertain how many things and saying is appropriate it can be part of your conditions they're making a requests the property owners making a requests on behalf of the best students [Music] it's up to the commission to make possessive conditions conditions you know our material has to be out by a certain time it has to be out by a certain time because remaining has to be screened and has to be screwed [Music] but this is also all the lawyer wants it's just it's just set down dates that everything's going to be removed yeah well and again li-fi ordinances he's just saying there's some lack of clarity in the you know the intended purpose of this renting space in a a building you know and if anything that might be outside that is related to that that home occupation so you're still abiding by the rest of the orders you're just saying that it will be greater if the leasing part okay the agreement but you still have to abide by the rest of the ordinance okay if providing by the rest of the ordinance it's illegal that if you haven't because he's supposed to be living there and he's also supposed to be part of the family so orders requires that and the attorney saying in this case there's some gray area as to whether even though that's what it says very clearly up front whether they can leave something to somebody else to unfortunate but if that's the case even if outboard storage there's still our environment that says it needs to be screened and he hits it with them when he leaves you know I mean you can go up to 70 without a permit [Music] or part of the term or anything higher than that screening like we have over here around the uh be here in the city slats or whatever just well you could have a regular fence or word fence yes nice fence to take a look so I guess my understanding then is we're we're putting forward all these um dates and things that have to be moved obviously the short storage containers will have been there based on if they moved in in may they would have been there then six months on November 15th which then it was supposed to be removed um trailers and vehicles if they have licenses and are operable they can stay as long as this is approved through to May 100. right right sure the ones that can stay are just the ones listed so four good stuff yeah the virtue four pickup trucks okay anything license yeah Mr chair yes and so question maybe for Liz um if things removed there in violation the ordinance in the first place yeah any obligation to approve the inner and use purpose now I would say at least one third one after the request we get for an interview's permit started off definitely they have the right to ask but we're under no obligation I mean yeah Mr chair yes mayor do we have a copy of the lease we have not seen the lease you're dealing with a homeowner on occupation and the requirement is at least so what guarantees do you happen Walmart has a lease to enforce aliens there's no lease then you can go back to Because unless you in the situation again it's not just they always Park equipment without a basically that's [Music] [Music] is that the only copy you have done yes that's true okay [Music] um agreed around one acre of land from 74 11 181st Avenue commencing April 1st 2023 through May 31st 2024 for this for this 501 University month San Andreas have to use carbon or any disorderly or unlawful purposes and other degrees of transfers interest in the property of sublets that's deeper to another person tenant acknowledges that he's responsible for obtaining any desired insurance or higher theft reliability Etc and a degrees of the owner apparently or her heirs dressed in her name and Leoni are not liable for any damage that we're in some tenants or the property due to occupancy of this land tenant shall not display any signs meant to conduct business really you've ever written rental agreement [Music] so I'll get a copy of that from Kyle [Music] that says equals that says May 31st as opposed to Makers and it started turns in April but nothing arrived until early after he expected will be really made for them sounds like Mother's Day [Music] because it's small yeah the contracts close to what you have in the uh that you have down here yeah very similar [Music] road restrictions would be the only concern on the new first date right now well yeah right only thing I have here research [Music] in some kind of Border Place yeah [Music] some like some sort of natural color well that would be a yeah chain link you can see through so it's not really a strange fence yeah I know it's our time together I'm aware just along the east side or what um if we want to start shield things I think it's got to do you just like hook is there a different spot on the factory that would be better for the Neighbors looks like it's alternative that's about the only spot it could be he did talk a lot possibly a little bit more for the garden yeah Mr chair yes the public hearings closed but we still have a homeowner's office is that question you know people the property especially that's all started out in the front Howard and Parnell the three owners yeah a question is about the screening of offense seven foot fence would there be any suggestions on what direction you may want the fence to actually be placed for screening for hiding of this items until we all know or moving the whole area up to the north central or north is that any better or worse based on the time now this is all steep song [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] right the understanding is that he cannot license them without a title and he's trying to achieve those items yeah that's my understanding so [Music] personal opinion I'd rather have more to the north versus by the hook by the driveway and [Music] seven foot fence you know my I'd rather just see it gone right so that's a pretty big burden for him uh all the medium of that because if you put a seven foot bounce up that's going to cost him a few thousand dollars I don't want a good waste of money I've ever seen him to get rid of this stuff one thing I've been hearing always release agreement versus Florida number right see them in that job sizes too yeah well her her left Lisa when we went to irrelevant if we're not allowed okay um the only other thing about moving into the door if I don't know where the septic system is for the house and all of that considerations there is it a problem Mr bondolin driving across the field versus you know being the culture of the driveway moving the equipment is not going to be a problem originally I was able to go up to the north side this is the only wanted me at the hook in the driveway so that is why the stuff was put there again spread out because you just moved it here I did not get a chance to make it look pretty so just moving it over to that Northwest side it will not be a problem like up in here right because that gets us also farther away from the east line and regularly from the wholesome element okay yeah that would be the idea for us okay as long as there's no more coming in right right okay so we're going we're not going with any screen then we're going to move it up to the northwest basically it's kind of straight north of the shed so all our storage will be in those trailers Machinery Etc not belonging to the property management after the African designated area no inoperable or unlicensed vehicles or trailers shall be permitted on site and the existing of the person kind of must be removed earlier than November 15th storage containers are only permitted under the student code for three to six months it must be 15. the storage of landscape materials including plants wood chips sand dirt gravel rock painters wall blocks engine pots Etc all other card or soft lizards were pivoted that does not sound like it's a problem objectional objectionable noise vibration smoke dust electrical disturbance odors feet or glare shall not be produced no hazards attacks attacks always show the store generated or discharged include including fertilizer fertilizers and other one chemicals there shall be no slight use of the cabinet with effect on health safety models and generally their welfare the occupants of silver Lambs traffic conditions including Lotus lights location or number of vehicles or parking outside are not in use in the studio bars [Music] now I guess in that regardless good it doesn't come and go every day property shall be interviewed for confines illustrator for building official final application to the city of non-compliance issues or complaints determination of the Iowa people would occur at the time the property is sold outside of the family a change in ownership or occupancy of the principal use upon violation of any condition discontinuation of the business or use or no later than May 21st 2024 whichever occurs first now Ms perro mentioned World restrictions if we get another real heavy snowfall could be beyond that so you could say add you know seven days after road restrictions come off for 10 days after something like that you know Mr Speaker there what recruitment is there going to be restricted of the roads well yeah thanks you've got a point because on this fall they require a semi but they would be gone so yeah maybe there's really nothing that would require looking at the list you have here the only thing on there's some copper shots like this in that little description it's County growth yeah that's a plus okay are we all okay with neighbors yeah objectionable side if we have another Snowy River you know it might take a couple more weeks for that stuff to melt out sometimes it's frozen to the ground I understand being that it's something that's far north corner but they're gonna cross that field to get we'll call Vehicles out there to move and stuff at that date may or may not be doable then you probably want to get it out of there sooner and you will not like that dirt road that is that don't know that goes through the property is always washed out always always an essence any other comments on the May first date [Music] maybe just have the stipulation of the snow cover um [Music] but typically road restrictions do play a lot with the ground being shot or enough to doing this you're talking first nothing well and come the April console meeting with the cat and a heavy smell of that thing we can talk about it you know thank you okay um so our conditions have to be put into effect no later than November 15th uh Orchard terminate unless you request is submitted to the City Marine medicine 30 years prior to the airport so we need to find out about their titles and stuff city council lady what can internet use permanent on violation of any conditions I get to the organization of the state of Minnesota or the United States any change involved instructional alterations environment and classification of these are similar teams not specifically committed I feel required amended IEP [Music] processed in the same as a new application the IEP shall remains effect until May 3100 these long as traditional agreed upon are observed but enough to change the status okay applicants are responsible for all costs associated but okay foreign [Music] [Music] true Temple's trailer one tractor and one utility vehicle and one tanker 300 gallon tankers trailer Miss peony are you in agreement were you able to hear all those conditions um I know they have to read them all later okay will you will you try to attend the city council meeting on October 10th yes okay great thank you I'll send you by mail a revised version you I don't think you have an email do you okay I need a copy of Wendy's yes you can um yeah I'll just take a photo of it before you go to the coffee machine in here not here but I'll take a photo before you walk out okay we need to make a motion for your training the fact sure yeah [Music] congratulations did you have the uh reports are back from the door slide on that play them bigger oh yeah it wouldn't be as big of a deal there because you're you're a quarter mile more than a quarter mile away from the closest house I'm good but you're not supposed to store I mean technically you should be 20 feet back that's a good point though because we should meet the setbacks or accessory buildings yeah yeah nothing on that exactly is that then it's a good change to a quarterback um yeah it says Puerto Rico number two [Music] okay this is [Music] yeah I'll make a motion we accept these friends of attack make emotional acceptance we have a second one second I miss you girl a second of it any further discussion both all right okay it's one of course okay uh motion by the L second one damn right right yes [Music] okay thank you here's your release so October 10th will be the city council okay back home baby so um it is isn't that fun okay uh Mr chair yes uh do I have permission to do that public hearings for next month you can still make changes but all the things in yellow were what was trying to developed and what he recommended last month the only thing really still up for debate about this was expenses was the uh installation of systems by Property Owners you know uh but we could talk about it next time for public hearing we might get some said feedback from our hello everybody maybe hopefully it would be nice just make sure you're finished well yeah all right well whatever you want to do is fine I just threw them out there we're gonna have a couple and ideas um the next meeting I mean any changes okay okay well we'll just say that then I mean the goal is to try to do this one more motion signature baby yeah um I will not be at the next meeting