All right. So, today is November 17th at just I'll say 5:53. We're opening a few minutes late, but uh we'll start with the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Miss Johnson, you roll call, please. Mayor Hib >> here. >> Council member Bryan >> here. >> Council member Glazer >> here. >> Council member Randall >> here. >> Council member Swenson >> here. >> Attorney Corey >> here. >> Uh and myself Natalie Johnson. >> Roll call is complete. >> Roll call complete. All right. So we are going to go into a closed meeting. So m shut off. >> Before you shut that off, >> I just need to read for the record what exactly we're doing. Uh we are going into a um closed meeting uh to consider allegations against an employee of the city. Uh those vi those uh allegations will be considered only in closed session. Uh the employee may determine whether this meeting must be open to the public in which case it will then turn into an open meeting. Uh the purpose of the meeting is to determine whether discipline is warranted. Meeting is being closed under Minnesota statute 13D.05 5 subdivision 2B. Uh if after uh proceeding in close session, council determines that discipline is warranted, council may open the meeting and uh consider and actually impose discipline. >> Okay. >> All right. So, we're um the meeting uh was closed. It is back open now. That's my gel for tonight. All right. So now we are going to discuss um what this can please put your phone on. I don't know how to do it. I got a new phone. Um talk about what level of discipline is going to be um that we're going to vote on. So would anybody like to start the discussion on this? >> Mr. Mayor, >> Council Member Rainbow, please go ahead. Based on our discussion during the closed session, I move that employee A receive a written reprimand um to include um the requirement for additional training. >> Was that a motion or a motion? >> So, do we have a second on that and then we go to discussion on it? >> I'll second it for discussion. >> Second for discussion. >> Okay. Would you like to add the next comment for discussion? All right. We're second for discussion. Um, anybody? All right, I'll start up. Um, considering what evidence we've we've had, I I think a written should be I'm going to state the minimal piece that should happen. Um, I'm going to recommend one level higher, which is a written to include a suspension without pay for 3 days. That would be that would be technically amendment to the motion that we make. >> Well, it's right now we're in discussion. It's my recommendation. So, she's still got the motion on the table and we're in discussion. >> So, we could amend the motion if we have any level of agreement, but wanted to go around the table and get everybody's input on what what the recommendations would be and then we can go forward. >> Mr. Council member Blaz based on on what the council has been presented with this evening and what we've what we've experienced here in this room tonight. I would be in favor of what you just proposed, a a written reprimand put in file with a three-day suspension and that written reprimand to include that this is not >> me. >> Uh yes, >> um I think a written reprimand is certainly appropriate. Um, I think we need to document it and I'll make sure it's documented. I don't know that it would go as far as a 3-day suspension, but I don't feel super strongly about that. It's within reason. Um, but yeah, my thought would be record. >> Thank you, Cart. I'm just weighing weighing the issue of um the event and certainly would be minimal on knowing um I I I don't I don't have I I could go either way right now. I'm still trying to figure out which where we where we are at. >> Okay. So, we have a motion on the table right now in the second. So, >> um, >> we'll go back around. Is there any other discussion any of the council members would like to have? >> It's okay if we have some silence if you want to certain thing for a minute. >> No, that's we can keep moving forward. >> They don't really think we can move forward because it's time to vote. >> So, are you are you amending council member Rainville's motion? >> I I certainly can, but we're doing a >> Here's where you would ask. I I would like to now amend Council Rainbow's motion to state that one, it would be a written recommend to include a three-day suspension and the additional training that we talked about from the municipal. That's the motion I would like to push for. >> I'll second that motion. >> No, from a procedure that's is a motion to amend. Right. >> So it it does step in front of yours, but the vote is only on the amendment, not to impose the discipline, but an amendment to your motion. >> So there's really going to be two votes. >> First vote is shall the motion be amended? >> Then if the answer is yes, the next vote is do we pass that motion? >> No. Well, that's I'm assuming that's rabbit rules. >> It's kind of it's Yeah, you may don't operate under rabbit rules. way too complex but that's the normal procedure for how to take a motion with an amendment friendly amendment as well as >> thanks for the indication I appreciate that we might need a few more >> so Mr. Mr. Mayor, um I um do not accept your request to amend the motion. I would like my motion to stand alone. If it doesn't fail, then somebody else can bring forward a second. >> There's an additional. Okay. So, at this point, we already had a second. Any further discussion counc I move that based on the discussion during our close session that employee A receive a written reprimand to be placed in his in in their personnel file and the reprimand include the requirement of additional training. Okay, we already had a second on, so we will move to vote on the >> first your amendment still still out there doing that. >> Okay, but she she declined it and I I still think it goes to a vote. I could be wrong. >> We've not we've not done that in the past. >> Okay, so your procedure is then vote your motion. >> Okay, motion there's an additional one coming up. There could be additional one added to >> or no. So if you if if so generally speaking we would we would have a motion to oppose discipline >> and that's it. >> So you get one vote. >> Yes. So if your motion passes that is the discipline you guys oppose you get one pass at if you if you vote no on that motion then another motion come up >> and that motion could be your motion of both things suspension and all three suspension. So the first vote would be to state that we do not want the motion from council member Rainbow. Is that correct? It's it's either pass it as the discipline or reject it as the discipline. Okay. And then we would go through another one. >> Yes. If if you reject it, you go to another come back to what's the motion. If you pass it, you're done. That's the discipline that's composed by C. >> Okay. Does that clear for everybody? >> All right. Let's go through your vote. Um, council member Ray, will you read it one more time to make sure everybody's got it? >> Based on discussion during our close session, I move that employee A receive a written rep reprimand and it be placed in their file and the letter to include additional training. >> Okay. All those in favor say I. I >> I >> opposed. Nay. I motion carries. >> Okay, it >> is done. >> All right. So, Mr. Mayor, >> Council Rango, >> I move um that we identify employee A as Joseph please. >> Okay, we have to take a vote. All those in favor? >> We need a second. >> We got a second. Thank you. All those in favor say I. >> I oppose. >> Motion carries. >> Mr. Got Mr. Turn.