Oak Grove City Council — Transcript

Monday, October 12, 2026

Discussion on Transitioning to a Full-time Fire Chief Position

Votes (1)

Discussion on Transitioning to a Full-time Fire Chief Position

Information requested for future discussion.

Dissent: Council members expressed a strong need for more data and a detailed job description before making a decision, indicating a desire for thorough justification rather than outright opposition to the proposal.

The primary discussion centered on the necessity and implications of converting the part-time fire chief role to a full-time position. It was noted that the current chief, Rob Engler, functions effectively as a full-time employee due to his retirement from a previous career, a situation deemed unlikely to be duplicated by future part-time chiefs. Arguments for a full-time chief included the city's significant growth, increased call volume, the opening of a new fire station, the need for consistent leadership presence, enhanced emergency management, and proactive grant seeking. Council members emphasized the need for a revised, detailed job description for a full-time role, outlining expected duties, responsibilities, and a clear compensation plan, along with data on tasks not currently being completed due to the part-time structure. Concerns were raised about the ability to attract qualified candidates for a part-time role given the demands, and the risk of using the part-time chief role as a stepping stone.

Notable Quotes (6)

He's essentially functioning as a full-time employee. And between him and the current assistant chief, they certainly are.

Discussion on Transitioning to a Full-time Fire Chief Position

There just never never is enough time. There There even even with what's going on, there's so many things I don't have time for that it because I am, quote unquote, part-time, right?

Discussion on Transitioning to a Full-time Fire Chief Position

I think the the the department looks different with a part-time chief versus a full-time chief. And like, when I said that before about the part-time chief, no no slight to the former part-time chief at all. It's just him as most part-time chiefs would be, they have another full-time job somewhere else. They just don't have time and the ability to spend as much time as a person like Rob has who's retired from his day job. And I don't think we will duplicate that if we go out to look for another part-time chief when Rob decides to hang it up in the very near future.

Discussion on Transitioning to a Full-time Fire Chief Position

I need something that's brought to me that says, "Here's the full-time position. Here's what we expect that full-time position to do." So, that it it actually fills in with what John's asking cuz now it explains to him, "This is the duties of a full-time. This is" You could even have what your part-time is currently, but I think we need a new job description for a full-time.

Discussion on Transitioning to a Full-time Fire Chief Position

This is sort of to my point is we don't know. We don't have all the data to make a decision whether it should be what he he could get done in 20 hours or not... I need to see the data.

Discussion on Transitioning to a Full-time Fire Chief Position

What things are we not doing because he's not a full-time chief? Are we being proactive on all our grants? Are we doing all the training we should be? Or we're doing the core that we have to because I don't have enough time to plan all the rest.

Discussion on Transitioning to a Full-time Fire Chief Position

Ordinances & Resolutions (5)

federal safer grantOther

An application submitted by the city to fund the potential full-time fire chief position, currently pending.

preliminary levy that was approved for 2027Other

Includes funding for the potential full-time fire chief position.

job description for what a fire chief does for the city of Oak GroveOther

Existing document for a part-time chief, requires updating for a full-time role.

city's compensation planOther

Needs to be updated to include the full-time fire chief position and its compensation schedule.

Record Management SystemOther

Identified as a system that has significantly increased the administrative workload for the fire department.

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