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St. Francis City CouncilTuesday, August 19, 2025
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Darcy, I said last%. >> Yeah, I'm just trying to understand it a little bit more. >> Keep asking [Applause] like last year went down. But our taxes went down like [Music] that's everything. to >> when did you send that? >> We're gonna start in 6 p.m. on Monday, August 18th at 2025 at 6 p.m. Please rise for the pledge. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Roll call, please. Jenny. >> Mayor Bogle, >> here. >> Council members Muower >> here. >> Conis >> here. >> Edvig, >> here. >> Robinson >> here. >> Do I have approval of tonight's agenda? >> Motion by Councilman Udvig. Do I have a second? >> I'll second it. >> Second by Councilman Fis. Uh, any discussion? Uh, go to a roll call, please. Jenny. >> Mayor Bogle >> here. Council members >> I sorry I >> council members Robinson >> I >> Dig >> I >> Fis I >> Malbower >> I >> on to the consent agenda. Do I have a motion to accept the consent agenda? >> I'll make that motion. Mayor >> motion by Councilman Robinson. Do I have a second? >> I'll second it. >> Second by Councilman Fis. Any discussion about the consent agenda >> hearing? None. Uh we'll go to a roll call vote, please. Jenny, >> Mayor Vogel, >> I >> council members Udvig. >> Then I Robinson. >> Hi. >> Mbower. >> Hi. >> On to meeting open to the public. Anybody wishing to speak, please come forward. State your name and address. Uh Tina Carol, 23045 Ambassador Boulevard. Um, just this is something minor, but I just noticed on here that okay, we have surplus property of an iPad and a laptop and that we're selling those items. Why wouldn't we donate those items versus selling them? I mean, that's something that lots of lower income families in the in the city could possibly use. You know, students could use those items. So, yes, I understand the city needs money, but for those minor items, in my opinion, that's something that we should look into donating. >> Thanks, real quick. Is there may council, we would have to go back to the state donation kind of rules. Um, I don't we would have to look at creating policy for that and a process if law law allows. Um, at this time we don't have those pieces in place. So tonight you would have to make a decision if you want to move forward with this. Um, if you want us to spend time looking at that then these items. Typically computers go back to Metro Inet. Um, most likely Metro Inet would not allow us to sell to or donate to an outside party. I'm comfortable with selling, but I mean it's a good thanks for bringing it up and as we've had other discussions too, donations get really tricky from one public. So, thanks Tina. >> Uh on to new business. Okay. >> Yeah. Mayor and Council, tonight I am requesting a work session or a special meeting for September 22nd beginning at 5:30 to do the interviews for the community development director position. >> Does anybody have a conflict with that date? Will that work? >> September 22nd. >> Joel. >> Oh, I should be good. Okay, Amy, >> I'm I'm good on that day, but if it could be earlier in the day, that would work out a little bit better for me. But this day works every if it works for everybody else. >> I would jump at 5:15 on Monday. So, I can't >> sound like 5:30. I don't know. Kevin, >> I can come anytime. >> I'm the same way. So, I mean the accommodations there here though. I think what five You can make 5:30 or >> I can make 5:30. >> Okay. Sorry. >> Right. >> So, I think we're set for 5:30 on Monday, September 22nd for a work session to do the interviews for the community development director. Okay, we're back to meeting open to the public again. Anybody wish to speak, come forward, state your name. >> Hi, uh, Aaron Roshan. uh 23514 to gardener circle, also a member of ASET. And um I've talked to you guys earlier a little bit about this and uh I sent um texts to you guys about and with a link to a video with uh what we just came out with and it was just briefly touching on how um we have looked at the statute in the state and how they've kind of uh and the difference in the interpretation of what that statute is and and uh with the pull pads and uh electronic voting and stuff like that. So, just bringing this back up, but I just wanted to I did talk to you guys briefly, but yeah, just mentioning that and uh hopefully uh can hear from you guys shortly and or well, I guess within the next week or so, maybe a couple weeks and if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me. So, and yeah. All right. Thank you. >> Thanks. Thanks, Erin. And and to to Erin's point here, I'm going to be addressing it a little bit a little later here. I I hope everybody at least reads up on on this ASET stuff a little bit because I think I think it's going to lead to other further discussions. I'll be talking about a little later here, but I just want everybody to listen to what ASEAD has to say, listen to what the county has to say, and then we're trying for that balance. So, I was talking with Kate about getting somebody from Monoka County here to present their side to us as well. So, please please stay up with that stuff because I think in the near future here we'll be having further discussions on this. So, >> can I add something? >> Absolutely. >> Can you can you come back up please? >> Sure. >> And tell us what ASEAT means and what synopsis of what it's all about. >> Well, ASET is an acronym for an Oka County Election Integrity Team. And um what we just would like is just to make sure that our elections have just full transparency, full integrity. And so we in our mission and we're we're a bipartisan group. Um so we wanted to initially we wanted to try to go back to paper and we thought that was the best way cuz then uh we can count everything. everything is is recordable and trackable and and then we just didn't Andover just have or no no it was one of the uh Noa County commissioners that actually we had to have a recount and it was through the papers and in the machines had made a mistake. It wasn't a big mistake but they did and so we had to go back and we found I can't remember the discrepancy but we had to find it in the paper because the machines can't interpret intention. Um, granted, you know, they're machines and we program them, but you know, it it was just like with kind of our mission is is just to look at things is just to have, you know, um, no doubt, no shadow of a doubt, we'd be able to look at it and we'd be able to point, you know, who's the winner, who's the loser, that's it, you know, and the best way to do it was going back, you know, and it seems like it's kind of a way of just like, well, we're going backwards and it's like, well, maybe the technology needs to catch up, you know, but it's like then we don't have this uh bickering of like, well, they're cooks or they don't know what they're talking about and then we're like going, well, we just want to know who's who's who's got what. And that was the easiest way to do it. Um, yeah. You know, I just I just want I don't I just want to have the the the ability to look back at it and be able to go if there's any kind of shadow of a doubt, you'd be able to point it out and then there's no more arguing. So, does that make sense? >> Yep. >> Okay. >> And if I may add, the ana the uh union that we get here at city hall, I pick up a copy on our last meeting. They had a usually they're a little more not middle of the road paper, but they did a very good job at least reporting for those who don't know anything about it as far as what commissioners served us and what didn't serve us or some didn't vote at all. And there was some it was an interesting article anyway to you can brief yourself on. I thought it was I read it yeah twice actually. But um the fact is there's some commissioners that we voted for that are there and they're not completing their job. They're not representing the people that put them there. uh by either not voting or not voting but not saying anything or not addressing public concerns that have brought been brought to them. They're not answering some emails from what I understand from some uh players in other cities, mayors and council people from other cities. They're not getting zero they're getting zero response from their commissioners. >> I mean, not one day, not two, not three day. They're just not answering them, which is a bunch of hoie. So, but this is something that I want to be more involved with down the road and we should talk about it. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you guys. >> Anybody else? Anything for Aaron? Joel. >> Oh, thank you, Aaron. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Aaron. >> Anybody else? Tina, >> Tina, Carol, 23045 Ambassador Boulevard. Um being the planning commission meeting has been cancelled for this week. Just wondering if you guys can give us an update on the status of the property behind subway area that >> I could give you but Kate's going to be more bottom line the offer. I'll let Kate explain it. Thanks Kate. >> Mayor Council. So the property right now we are working with final design to get the road to an L to get that finalized and bid this winter and then the property is still under a purchase agreement until April 1st with the developer. >> Okay. And has he have they come up with any new designs? >> Yep. We have talked about a couple different designs and we will be looking at that as we go forward. >> Okay. And that will be presented back to at the meetings. >> It will. So every land use application has a process of a public hearing and then approvals. So it it will come through that process and then notices would go out for an invitation for that public. >> Okay. And we there's no updates on as far as when they're looking at that in the spring or over the nothing yet >> right now. We don't we haven't even seen any layouts. So right now it's just conversation. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Thanks. Thanks David. >> Uh yes, Mr. Mayor and members of the council. just to address the uh issue on uh disposal property. There's a charter piece on that and then section 873 uh subparent A1 directs how the city is disposing of property and it doesn't include donation. This the council could certainly look at that. Um but just in terms of the language, staff is following the process that is laid out just so just for everyone to know what's going on. for you're talking about >> any donations. >> Uh well, for the iPad. >> Yep. That's issue, >> right? >> Yep. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Real property is a different process and that's laid out in charter, but I just I quick had to pull it up and and make sure that council and the public know what that is. >> Thank Thank you, Dave. >> Question, mayor. Go ahead. >> But then the sensitivity like Kate said of electronics that might have some encryption or some other information. I know they can wipe these things clean, but just to put them back like that back out in the mainstream might not be the best practice. >> And and Council Member Robinson, Mr. Mayor and Council, um council needs to be notified. That was the process there and it said it can be sold for salvage value, traded in, recycled, or thrown away at the city administrator's discretion. So, if it's a sensitive computer that's got data on it, that may again, as city administer uh Kate said, Metroet wants to recycle that and and make sure that that data does not get divulged. >> Understood. If there was a dozen of them, it might be worth a an effort, but these are these are what uh Jenny, these are what, six years old plus, aren't they? So even the technology is old but and I understand some people could still use something like that but but I get it but yes for the council and and the public's information on that. Thank you. >> Thank you Dave. Thank you Kate for the update on the land. Uh no other nothing else under meeting open to the public. So we're on to reports Dave. Mayor and Council, for your review is the monthly report for the fire department for the month of July. Uh we did respond to 73 incidents on the month, which was down from June, which we're always excited to see. We had an average in route time of 5 minutes and 23 seconds and an average onseen time of 9 minutes and 19 seconds. So, we're getting back to that under 10 minutes of our goal pretty consistently as we roll through the summer months. You can see the distribution in the graph below as we have coded the calls after we arrived on what we actually found at the incident and the distribution between the station duty officer and below that graph. Um our projected current growth on the year is 12.9%. Again that's down from where we were in June. So we're seeing our numbers kind of level off throughout the summer with an average daily um incident responses on 2.3 per day for the month of July. Our busiest times a day still remained in the afternoon. For July, it was at 1 to two and then again from 2 to 3 um was our busiest time of day and our busiest day of the week. June for July was Wednesdays. Um our responses were a little bit flat from personnel throughout the month, but we typically see that in the summer months with vacation and traffic, things like that. So, we're a little bit lower than what we have been for the rest of the year. Um and we do see our influx of staffing kind of increase towards the late afternoon steady through the evening and kind of tapers off the over. We responded to 16 fire incidents on the month and 57 EMS incidents with an average onseene time of just over 27 minutes per call. We did have $750 worth of property loss reported in the month month of July and that was for a lint trap on a dryer that had caught fire. So it was contained in the dryer itself through that reported loss came from. We did give three mutual aids on the month. Two to NAND, one to Oak Grove. And once again, we received zero mutual aids on the month. With that, I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. >> Amy, >> I don't have any questions. >> Zero. >> No question. >> Kevin. >> Yes. Well, just one, Chief. Yes, sir. Excuse me. You me you mentioned uh you anticipate some flat numbers flattening out for response and whatnot. How do you how does a team like yours converse is what central point do they converse with about I'm on vacation? How do you how do you compartmentalize that and who's going to be here? >> We have a pretty informal process. Um, we have a kind of a general expectation if somebody is going to be gone for an extended period of time that they let their station leadership know. Most part they do pretty good job of, hey, I'm going to be on vacation. I'm going to take a long weekend. I'm cruise. Um, part of our issue, and not really issue, but part of where our numbers are a little bit flat in July is we do have a couple people on medical leave and a couple people leave. So, that certainly skews our numbers down a little bit. But every year we see it in July. every year. We see it in November, especially when deer hunting season comes along. That starts to impact our numbers a little bit, but it's fairly predictable and we do have an informal process. Again, we measure their performance on a monthly and quarterly basis. We don't measure it from a day-to-day basis because they have full-time jobs and family and sports and church and all of those other. So, there's really not a good mechanism for us to manage 27 different employees on a day-to-day basis. But by and large, they do a pretty good job of letting us know when they're going to be out for an extended period of time. >> But in the past, as of in late, it hasn't impeded your service. >> No. No. >> Period. >> Our numbers will always wax and Wayne. There'll be days of the week where we have 10 or 12 people that are available and we'll have days and times of the week where we will have one, two, or three people. Unfortunately, we could have a hundred paid on call firefighters and you always run the risk of having a deficit of available responders depending on what's happening in their personal or private lives. >> The communication's open. Everybody absolutely knows what's going on. >> Yep. All right, that's all I had. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thanks, Kevin. Joel, >> uh, no questions. Just thank you and again, Senator appreciation staff. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, thanks. Thanks for the report. The only this is more of an end of the year kind of question again besides the mutual aid one and it's just you know if we keep hovering around this 13% increase year-toyear. >> Yeah. >> I mean we're going to have to look for answers and I'm not sure they're going to be financial answers. I'm not sure it's going to be another position or anything like that. So I I guess all I'm asking for is some preemptive brainstorming as to how we can reduce that increase because it's not sustainable if we keep seeing a 13% increase yeartoyear. I agree and I think 13% is is a little bit less than we've seen the previous handful of years. Um, you know, as our population grows, you know, one of the things that you and I have already had conversations about is keeping an eye on where Vista Prairie is kind of impacting our operation. Um, myself, the police chief, we've already had initial conversations with leadership over there. We have actually have another meeting coming up tomorrow with their staff to really try and be proactive in how they present to emergency services, especially when they have a paid service on staff. We have a really good model right now with select urgent care where they're dialing direct for some of these lower duty stuff to Alina, which works out great. But again, they have staff, they have physicians, they have nurse practitioners, they have those people that can triage that event with the person in real time with diagnostics. So, we've leveraged that. We've had really good success with with select urgent care. We hope to be able to replicate some of that with Vista Prairie, but I agree with you. This is something that police chiefs and fire chiefs across the country are watching, right? As our society evolves, the expectations and demands unfortunately evolve with. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome, sir. >> Uh, council member reports. Uh Sarah, >> um I attended the parks commission meeting on Thursday the 14th. Um we had a good discussion. Um that's a really really eager group of people. They really enjoy being on that commission and they come up with some pretty good ideas and um we are um moving forward with um the installation of the new park at Rum River Woods. That's slated to begin on September 22nd. Correct. Um, so we're looking forward to that and um talked about more about the warming house and and some upgrades to that and adding pickleball courts and outside fireplace and um I think that space is going to end up looking really good and it's going to get a lot of use by our community. So um I'm excited for continued meetings and continued growth for our parks in our city. >> Thanks sir. Kevin. >> Uh yeah, I want to take a question. Um take one minute to talk to Chief Schwagger. New school year resource officers. Any discussion or any happening at regard or >> we have regular discussions with school which we've had last week. Um but no discussions about a school resource officer. >> Okay. >> So it's pretty much based on call response um you know what things are going to look like in absence of a school resource officer. So we typically have those discussions every year. In hindsight, it's 2020, but last year looking over your shoulder, did you Was it more than, less than, or about where you thought it I guess not where you thought it would be? Was it more than or less than? I guess calls for service. That's >> Yes, sir. >> They're praying. I think they're staying pretty consistent year to year. Um, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but you know, uh, since we lost our last school resource officer, I think in 2021. Um, I want to say since that time, this the calls have, uh, stayed pretty consistent year to year. And um you know, some schools are busier than others during each school season, but all in all, I think overall calls for service. Uh we're not overwhelmed. We're dealing with it, but unfortunately, it still takes resources. >> Okay, great. I appreciate your help. Thank you. Um I attended 9th at in my own neighborhood this time around instead of coming to Central Park. The weather was kind of iffy, so I wasn't sure, but it turned out to be a nice evening, but it was nice to see. I think we had um I want to say nine families there that showed up and they stayed. It it was really good and the the fire engines showed up from the Bethl side of town and I found out two of my neighbors are actual fire fighter members of the community. But it turned out very nice. It was nice to visit with people that I usually I have come to in town so it was nice to meet with other people. Um, I took a tour of the water plant with Amy and then uh citizen Mike uh uh citizen goodness sakes Mike Roger. >> Thank you. Anyways, it was very intriguing. Um I I did it six years ago when I first ran for office and um Parish does an excellent job and Paul does an awesome job and it's if we could afford it or decide to set aside we told Parish, you know, if you can make a YouTube video even a a brief walk through with some some levity perhaps but uh because it can be kind of dry stuff if you if you don't get into wastewater treatment plan and freshwater etc. But I mean it's knowledgeable. It really gives you some knowledge about where what takes place in our city to just to get fresh water to your tap and then what happens after it leaves the tap, etc. So, um maybe down the road we can set something aside, some funds or do something and actually get Paris to put on his Broadway hat and actually do a because he does a good job. He really does. He's sharp. He's We're very very lucky to have him. Like Paul said, it's uh it's an anomaly to have somebody that has that much knowledge and and really has passion when he wants to talk to you about it. He's got a lot of enthusiasm for wastewater and freshwater. Um other than that, we put our money where our mouth is. We the sign is out there. We have a meeting September 15th, our regular council meeting. I encourage everyone to come and we will get a uh I will hopefully encourage that we get a tutorial if Parish is here to talk about it or a PowerPoint if we can put something like that together. I don't want to give extra work to to people, but if um it's well worthwhile if they could see what Amy and I saw and Mike saw as we walk through there and um again what it's all about. Uh we don't we don't raise money just for the fun of it. We raise money to keep the city functioning properly and efficiently. So, but September 15th, mark your calendar. That sign will be out there for the next month and I'll get ask Paul some point we can turn it to the other direction for a little while. But um now's your chance. And as far as that one lady who said, "I have no faith in our citizens." That's a bunch of BS. And uh now we're giving him fair notice. Come on down. So that's all I have. >> Thanks, Kevin. Real briefly, to your point, Paul, I I got I have to reach out to Parish for something else, but I I I'm hoping Parish can be here if you check with them on September 15th. So, thank you, >> Amy. >> Um, yep. I I was going to say too that I went to the wastewater treatment plant. Kevin said it all. It was very informative. Um, so thank you for the invite, um, Paul. And then also I'm really excited to see the grasses growing outside. Um, I noticed that right away. And, um, I also went to Night to Unite mostly to see our mayor get dunked. That was fun. Um, but I thought it was, um, a really good event. There was a lot of people there. That was that was really good to see. So, that was good. Um, something else that was kind of fun today, um, my daughter, one of all of them, but are on the soccer team and the varsity team was doing a special picture for their calendar. And so my our oldest daughter went and I didn't really know where she was going or I was busy and I wasn't paying attention and she came home and I said, "Well, where was the where was the calendar picture?" And she said, "We went to city hall." And I'm like, "What? What did you guys do there?" and they made a really great picture in the conference room and it involved coffee cups and ties and I I don't really know what it was all about but I thought that was pretty cool that you know I'm not sure if they reached out here or and and so thank you for for accommodating them. She had fun and I thought it was a cool idea. I'm excited to see it on the calendar. Um, and then my only other I guess more of a question than a report, but um I thought I read in the off-week memo last week that there was some change for AM Ambassador and 47 something about a temporary light or maybe you could update us on what where we're at with that. >> Yep. So, mayor and council, at one point the state had considered, they were working with an open county and had considered a temporary roundabout at the Ambassador intersection. From that conversation, we spiraled off to maybe we jump that one forward and we do the permanent roundabout ahead of schedule with the greater project. Um, now what they have done is they have landed on uh doing the full project in 2027 and not spending the extra money to put something in that's going to be scraped out. Um, so it sooner. >> Yep. We are working diligently to get the design and environmental done by the end of this year and then we would look to do a build in 2027. So that would be the states portion and then that would also fasttrack our water and sewer line project. So we would have to bring that back at least another year as well. So >> Okay. Well, that's good. In the meantime, I wondered um and this is for Patterson, too. Um, I mean, I travel through those intersections a lot and I wonder if we can do anything. Um, I feel like on 47 and Ambassador, when you're coming when you're traveling east and you're you're sitting there, when you look to the right, there's just a lot of obstacles there. Um, and if you stop back where you're supposed to stop, back behind the stop sign, you know, you can't you can't see to the left. So, everybody moves toward. And if you if you stop there, there's just a lot of obstacles there. And I I think of it a lot cuz I just have new drivers in my house. So I'm in the car a lot with new drivers. And um so I don't I I wonder if we can do something to to just kind of look at obstacles and see if we can remove them or figure something out. The same is true at Person. Um if you stop where you're supposed to and you look to the left and you're going to turn right, there's this huge electrical box right in your way. And so and this h now I'll be honest I don't usually stop back right behind the stop sign. I pull forward where I can see but all of my daughters have had to learn to stop where you're supposed to stop. So, you know, this is how this comes up. And I'm thinking that most on Patterson, most of the accidents happen because people turn right on a red. I'm just imagining this. Turn right on a red. And that right turn lane is not technically a right turn lane. And everybody uses it as a right turn lane. And I hear myself over and over and over saying to my daughter, "Do not go in this lane. This is not a right turn lane." And unfortunately, they've probably seen me do it a whole bunch of times. So, and everybody else does it. Literally, everybody else does it. And so, I'm wondering if we can do something to remind people that that's not a right turn lane. And or can we can we ask for a no turn on red sign or is something something simple like that? Um like on Viking and 65, you can't turn right on a red there. Um, and so there's there's definitely intersections where they've decided that it's too dangerous to turn right on a red. And I I feel like that one could be one that if we don't let people turn right on a red and we do something to tell people that's not a right turn lane and and avoid that. I'm just wondering if we can do something simple like that. I'm sure it's not simple um to to get a sign. I'm sure it's not, but those are the obstacles that I see. Um, and we we've just had so many accidents at those intersections. And granted, you you make a change, people are still going to not follow it. But if we I don't know, do something to not let people turn right on a red or remind people that that is not a right turn lane, I think we would have could have fewer accidents. I don't know. Those are my thoughts. >> Well, either that's I don't know. Mayor and council, that would be a discussion with the state so we can let them know of those concerns. And at at Patterson, we have >> some leg control, but entering and accessing those highways, we would have to go through the state. The ambassador intersection is 100% state and county. So, at our next meeting, we can talk to them. Um, but what type of response we get, I don't I can't predict, but we can let them know. >> All right. Thank you. >> I do know what you're talking about, so I don't know whether it's >> right >> be anything else? >> Nope. That was all. Thanks. >> Joel, >> I don't have a lot to report. I did uh get some updates from Kate over uh some of the goings on. Um stay updated. I've been pretty busy at work working seven days a week for the last two weeks. So, hasn't been fun. Disappointed I missed the 19 night. And uh I'm super thankful to hear that you participated, Mark. And that's awesome. >> Could have been you. Could have been you, Joe. >> Yeah. Maybe next year. Thanks, Joe. So, National Night Out. Yep. You missed it. I was in the dunk tank. It was only comment I'll make on it is is actually harder than I thought. I thought a half an hour it's easy. But when you're going, you're being dunked by every single person who comes up there. Climbing that stupid little ladder to get back up on the board is it was a workout. So, it was good. It It was a good night. Thank you police and fire and city staff for putting that on. Very much appreciate it. I thought it was a decent crowd. I thought it was down a little bit from last year, but still a decent crowd. So, uh on August 12th, I went over to the harvest festival kind of sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce over there at the American Legion. Just it was just a good event. There were some very cool photos there of old stuff. That's I I know Michelle and them will put something together out of all that, but just I thought it was just a very good event. Very just a very fun city event. Not city sponsored, too, which makes it nice. I uh was late, but I made it to the city hall sale of selling the old city hall. So, I know Jenny signed and I signed. I I screwed up the time. It's supposed to be noon and I thought it was one, but we made it. It's all done. The deal's done. uh when I was talking about ACS as the Noka County election integrity team. I was talking with Kate prior to the meeting here and what I really want to do and I've asked for this before but I I kind of told Kate I mean if they don't come out and talk soon I I I just feel like we got to go ahead with resolution but I want the county to come out here and present their side of this. So she's she's going to be talking with Jim Dickinson and seeing if we can either piggyback on a meeting they're having with Oak Grove. they're coming out to Oak Grove to do talk about local elections or whether we have them come here to one of our special sessions, whatever. But I want to hear their side of it. So this is my shout out to them. You got a chance to come out and make your presentation, make it. So like I said, I hope everybody just stays up to date on that stuff. So, and lastly, I've been in contact with our representative Lawrence and our state senator and Andrew Matthews about and our excuse me, our lobbying firm about uh the highway 47 project. They both the Senate and the House conduct what they call a bonding tour where they get in a coach bus and they come out to some of these sites and those requests had to be submitted by our legislators. So, both our legislator both of our legislators submitted the request that we be put on the botting tour. That doesn't mean we're going to get it, but hope hopefully they'll be stopping by our site sometime between September and November. I don't know. We'll we'll see. So, stay tuned. H. And lastly, I I asked Kate, I I wanted to put this on I just want to get your quick thoughts on it, but just as a standing agenda item, what I'd like to see, you know, we all do council member reports, but I would like to see a uh city administrator standing report on every single every single agenda just for a brief just brief updates. Uh you know, like getting an update on the uh community development position we're trying to fill and things like that. So, I I I think she's in agreement with it. I don't know if you all find it, but I just I I don't I get some very good information when I'm sitting down with Kate on that. I want to share that with all I think that should be shared with everybody. So, I just I'm I'm asking to put put it as a standing agenda item on all of our meetings. So, I don't know any thoughts or opinions on that. >> I I think it's a great idea. Kate doesn't mind. I mean, she does a good job when we put her on the spot, which is usually every meeting. So, she's fast on her feet. And like I told her, I said, "If you got nothing, well, sometimes we've got nothing as well." That's that's that's okay to have nothing. But I just assume have a standing report from your city administrator. >> We'll just stop there. We get Jenny. Jenny can give us a report. Quick report. >> I think >> she seems she seems very excited about that. Joe, any thoughts of comments? >> Yeah, I don't have any issue with it. I think I usually call Kate, try to do it at least maybe once a week or once every two weeks. Um especially if after we get the packet usually. Um, unless it's a meeting like today, it's not a lot on there. Um, but if we do a report, long as it's not too indulgent right now, she's got a couple jobs she's doing at once, wearing a couple hats. So, if she has a time for it now, I have no problem with that. >> You you okay with the Kate? >> Good. Thank Thank you. So, that's really all I've got. Anybody any anything else? Okay. Meeting adjourned at 6:35 p.m. Thank you everyone.