It didn't take you too long though. Good looking group. >> Good evening and welcome to the Chesco City Council meeting for Monday, October 20th. Can I have everyone please rise for the pledge of >> allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> I forgot to mention I call it to order at 7:01. Uh Elise, can you please call roll? Council member Hatfield >> here. Council member Benes >> here. Council member Chevlin here. >> Council member McGrath >> here. >> Mayor Huard >> here. >> All right. Um, next we have the adoption of the agenda. Uh, does anybody have any additions or corrections on the agenda? Otherwise, I'd entertain a motion to adopt. >> Motion to adopt agenda. >> Okay, we have a motion from council member Hatfield. >> Second. >> A second from council member Bennish. Uh, any other discussion? Otherwise, all those in favor say I. >> I opposed. >> All right. Agenda is adopted. And then next we have visitor presentations. Um we have two on our uh agenda tonight. Uh the first is 5A Southern Valley Alliance Domestic Violence Awareness Month. Is Kim with us tonight? All right, come on up. Thank you so much for having me here today. U my name is Christy Larson. I'm actually the executive director at Southern Valley Alliance. Kim couldn't come tonight, so you're stuck with me, but I appreciate you all having me here tonight. As Mayor Hubard um mentioned, October is domestic violence awareness month, and now more than ever, it's imperative that the city of Chesca recognizes and works to com combat domestic abuse. So, for those of you that are unaware, Southern Nevada Alliance is the only organization to provide services to victims of domestic abuse in all of Scott and Carver counties. In our last fiscal year, we served 89 victims in Chaza alone. We answer over 2,000 calls on our crisis line annually. We assist victims and survivors in their greatest time of need by providing crisis intervention, emotional support, resources, and safety planning. We are a prevention and solutions focused organization and we partner with our local law enforcement, social services, and healthc care providers to make the communities of Scott and Carver a safer place to live. The organization was founded in the early 80s in Bell Plane by a local woman who experienced spousal abuse. We moved to Shakapei in January of 2024 and since then we have experienced a 20% increase in the demand for our services because of that accessibility to our advocacy center. As a community-based and community funded organization, Southern Valley Alliance is facing significant federal, state, and local foundation funding cuts. Amidst these cuts, it is important that the city of CHASCA recognizes domestic violence awareness month and does all it can to support victims and survivors today and throughout the year. We encourage our community members to follow us on social media and learn more on our website, svamn.org. So, thank you so much for having me out today. >> Thank you, Christie. Um, does anybody have any questions or comments for Christie? I guess I'd just like to say that um I know there's just such a stigma attached to domestic violence and it's very pervasive. So I really appreciate your agency being a resource center and a support center for victims of domestic violence. It really is extremely imperative that we have something um it saves lives, saves families um and also I think makes a legacy impact on the lives of their children if they have children. um to not continue that cycle of violence. Uh so it takes a village and I think it's u something for all of us to recognize that when we see something we need to say something. Um so I really appreciate you coming forward. I don't know if we do I know it's the domestic violence month. I know this is our last meeting for October, so I suppose like a proclamation or something probably, but I don't know what kind of tools we could do to recognize, but >> yeah, >> but I will encourage we do have some fundraisers. So um we have our annual poinsetta sale fundraiser and we are also doing um partnering with the CHA alliance to do uh purse bingo at size bar and grill. So I will leave those flyers as well as a way to get involved. So >> yeah. Okay, great. >> Thank you very much. So thank you for your time. Yeah, thank you so much. >> All right. Uh, moving along to we have another visitor presentation on our agenda which is Oakidge Conference Center update from Susan. >> Hi, I'm Connie Kane. I'll be going first if you don't mind. Okay. Um, I am a consultant for Oakidge Chesta. So, very excited to be here. Thank you for your time. And so, just by way of background, I am a licensed engineer. Um, I am also a licensed general contractor. I've been in this space for about 30 years now in the energy infrastructure space. Um my MBA also have an MBA in strategic planning and operations management. And so have the opportunity today I'll turn it over to Susan to just talk through our reopening plan and our security plan for the facility. I know you guys have heard from staff as as far as some interchanges there of where we stand, but really wanted to give a face to the name um to get to know you as we um intend to open our property and get invested in this community and not just be a part of the community, but certainly be impactful in the community, if that makes sense. And so, um again, we just appreciate your time. We're here to answer any questions that you have in an effort that we do secure a temporary certificate of occupancy so we can begin to open as a hotel and serve the community. So, thank you again and I'll turn it over to Susan. >> Hi. So, I'm Susan Ay. It's nice to meet you guys. Um, I'm the director of operation for Oakidge uh Chaza. Uh, like Connie was saying, really wanted to come more tonight just to meet everybody. Um, put a face to the company, let you know that of course we're excited to open a hotel, especially considering every single person I have met on my trips up here and mentioned the Oakidge Hotel to has their own personal story of who they know that got married there. Um, so it's very encouraging just it's really known as a landmark in the community. So, we're excited that it is does carry such a good reputation and name and to be a part of continuing that. Uh, like Connie spoke on, obviously, we're excited to open reopen this hotel and be a part of that. But more than anything, it's a great community that we hope to benefit and be a part of. Uh, I've spoken with several um people already from different charitable organizations and um even and I'm sorry that I forget her name that just spoke on domestic violence. Um we do we want to come to this community. We want to make a positive impact. Um we currently again just to kind of give you an update on the security and reopening. Uh we definitely we currently have a pending with the staff. Uh thatou is addressing everything from security protocols to phased occupancy that's going to go handinhand with our outstanding property improvements of the additional parking needed. Uh valet being um provided in the meantime. uh hiring plan. Uh Walter Hudson is here with me tonight. He is a part of our security company that we've um enlisted because we are aware that there has been some ongoing issues with vandalism and stuff to the property. Definitely wanted that addressed immediately. Um again though, definitely want to also say that the first thing that we know is going to stop this is again when we have an an occupied building as opposed to a vacant building. Um but in the meantime, we we definitely want to show that we have done everything. We've made um large large investments into meeting any requirements and really just want to through this memorandum of understanding make sure that any last things that we need to do on our part are met so that we can secure that temporary certificate of occupancy and move forward. Um, of course with it being temporary, we're also very aware that that gives the city the opportunity as well as us an opportunity to continue to meet any requirements that come up in the in the future uh to work towards that permanent certificate of occupancy. Um, but definitely just wanted to express our deepest desire to work along with the city and um and getting this thing moving forward and wanted to give you guys an opportunity for any questions or concerns that we may be able to answer for you. Um again, um Connie has a lot of the answers. I have some of them. Um Walter Hudson, which is actually a state representative here in um Minnesota, um can answer any questions regarding our security protocol, which because we do know that that has been a major concern. >> Yeah, I mean, I appreciate you coming and introducing yourself. Um and look forward to seeing action on that property. Uh, I also appreciate you kind of letting the cat out of the bag proverbially because you're right, being vacant, there has been, I think even as recently as this last weekend or or sometime yes, >> it's imperative that that place is being secure right now. um you know just for the safety of not only >> the people that are doing the wrong deed of breaking into your facility right or or that property but also our law enforcement agencies. I mean anytime puts their lives at risk as well >> and it's a drain on their resources. Definitely want to acknowledge that. Definitely want to acknowledge that we do we we have hired Integris uh security solutions. Uh we already currently have 7 pm to 7 am patrols happening along with camera installation. Um and again uh Walter can speak a little more onto that but definitely want to acknowledge that this was an issue. It is something that we have addressed and and again like you said safety issues along with it being a drain on resources that need to be spent somewhere else. I wanted to put some context too behind the talk about temporary occupancy. >> I appreciate that because that's news I think to the council here. >> When when that whole development occurred uh out there, so Costco and then the >> um Springs >> Yeah. >> What was it called again? >> Metal Lake Springs Lake Mcnite. Spring >> Mcnite Springs of Mcnite. >> Yeah. uh when that whole development happened out there. One of the dis uh discussions we had with the developer is that, you know, they were losing uh parking and landscaping uh with that project and that in order to have uh occupancy of that Oakidge Center, they needed to be able to build a parking lot uh that could accommodate the use of that building and then replace the landscaping uh that was in there that, you know, basically was needed for the rest of it. So, as part of the development agreement that was put in place even before Costco was built, uh we uh put in a condition that said that uh you can't get a certificate of occupancy for that building until you complete the parking lot and the landscaping and we actually retained dollars uh in case they didn't complete that work. Um, now we haven't taken any action to utilize those escro dollars uh because they've continued to work with a group to uh try to bring somebody in to to to do that. Uh, but we do have dollars that we're holding that if that wasn't to happen that we could put those uh uh into completing those final two things uh for it. So, uh, so really the the certificate of occupancy, it's really making sure that, uh, if there's a hotel use there, that there's actually a place for them to park. Uh, because there's, I mean, you think about that, >> the parking lot is gone. >> The parking lot's gone. The road is not a road you can park on. Obviously, 41 you can't park on. You can't go into Costco's parking lot because it's a private parking lot. And so it was really important to make sure that that was put in there. So >> absolutely. >> So that's sort of the context behind the that >> and we have pulled permits, we have hired contractors. Um and again there is the funds um securing funds. So we have met the requirements so far that the city has asked of that. Um and um so again really trying we want to work with the city. We want to again We want to we want to make the city proud as we as we come in and stuff and we know this is a big venture and we know that you know um but and we looked into flagging it a couple of times but honestly we don't want to come in as a corporation like a big corporate. We want to come in and again be a part of the community and and add to that be a great employer of people. Um, and we really want to work along with the city because again, we understand your role and how important it is to safeguard your community. Um, well, >> go ahead. >> I will say I think it's wonderful that you have interest in that building. It's been vacant now for some time. Yes. And as the area around it has grown up very nicely with Costco and the McNight Springs, um, it it'll be fun to see what you guys do there. So, it's exciting. >> Would you just give us just a little more background? Are you like is the restaurant reopening or when you say hotel like what are what are we just a little bit of background? >> Absolutely would would love to. Um I can't help be excited to speak about it. Um so again it is going to be a phased reopening very large part because of the parking situation. Um but long-term absolutely going to have the the restaurant operational. Um and um again very not repurposing at all. Definitely intended use of the hotel and the conference center um >> executive suites and things like that. >> Yes, absolutely. I've already spoken with a few people who have interest in um you know some of the um conferences that are currently being held inside Minneapolis. moving over to something a little outside that can provide the the conference center along with the lodging, that kind of thing. Um, but yeah, definitely long-term absolutely reopening the restaurant. We've debated on between possibly reaching out to an established restaurant in the area that would like to open a second location in the rest in in the hotel as opposed to running it completely separately. But definitely the plan. Um, but again, very cognizant of the fact that it has to be a um a staggered opening of things until we get that parking lot. But we do have the permits and stuff pulled at this point in the uh pending. Um we are putting a um completion date like a solid date of that having to be completed by um June 15th. Um my understanding being that they clear the exceptions. I'm sorry, that's not the thing. The road requirements, uh, the restrictions for the road due to the code and stuff, they come up the end of March. And so having that, um, set date of June 15th, there was should be no issue with between them lifting the road restrictions and being able to complete that um, parking lot. So that is part of the pending is a set date for that parking lot to be finished by June 15th. So, um, part of the, you know, visitor presentation, we don't take action on something, right? It sounds, this sounds a little like along the lines of something that's going to end up on our agenda, maybe for a more robust discussion. But I will say this, just from just the standpoint of discussions just in general, especially in regards to Oakidge, I don't know how that all works. I don't know how you make a temporary thing when you have a whole building. I think you got to have the right components in place in order to open a building and that includes the parking. Like the parking just has to be there. You can't open a part of the building and have a small portion of parking. I kind of have to have the whole thing >> because the building is is the whole thing. You have, in other words, you have you have like a checklist of code compliances, I'm sure, that you guys have to make in order to have an operational building. It's the same standards that we put on any other business in the city of Chaza. It's kind of the same centers that we have to put across everybody. It's an equity standpoint. >> Absolutely. >> So, like I said again, we can't take action on it, but it's just something that I feel like maybe just needs to be addressed. And I don't know if Nate, you would like to touch on anything. >> Yeah, you know, it's we've been working with this group, I think, for some time, right? We've had multiple conversations. Um, I think we've talked about the idea of a temporary certificate of occupancy. Staff's always had questions on how that would look. Um, so I'm thankful to see at 6:20 p.m. today that theou draft was delivered to my email. Um, I haven't had a chance to review it yet. >> Yes. >> Um, so all the information that's provided tonight is news to me. Um, so I think it'll be helpful uh to have that time to work through it and we'll work with their attorney as we have been. >> Okay. um to see if there's something that can work out. But right now, I'm not in a position to really comment much further on that because I haven't seen it. >> I appreciate that. >> But again, I appreciate you guys time. I don't know if there's any other questions that um that from especially from the security perspective because I know that's been a major concern that uh Mr. Hudson could answer or anything if you'd like them to come up or >> uh >> I I mean I think you've got the message that it needs to be secure. >> Yeah. can be right. I think >> yeah, it's imperative right now. >> Yes. And I think it's an issue. >> I think Nate did receive the email from Whitney telling you where we have put those protocols in place a couple weeks ago. Um I I remember there being a response from you. So I believe it was >> he had he had sent an email um and we had sent some questions for clarification. You provided that back. I think I think I said thanks for that. >> Okay. Great. >> So he provided a contact name. I don't remember who it was. >> Uh Nick Roganol possibly or Christian. >> Probably one of those two. Yeah. So, um, but it's been nice meeting you guys. Hope to be seeing all of your faces again as we move forward. >> Sounds good. Thank you so much for coming. >> All right, that moves us along. So, those are the two that I have on the agenda, but is anybody else here for visitor presentation? Something that is not an agenda item. Um, we can't obviously, like I had stated, we can't take action on it, but no one's running up to the microphone. So, we're going to move ourselves right along to approval of the previous meeting minutes. These meeting minutes were from September 29th, uh, 2025. Does anybody have any additions or corrections on the minutes? Otherwise, I'd entertain a motion for approval of the >> motion to approve the meeting minutes. >> Okay, we have a motion from council member Gra. >> Second, >> and a second from council member Chevlin. Any discussion? Otherwise, all those in favor say I. >> I opposed. All right, minutes approved. And then that moves us down to consent item. These are items that um receive little to no discussion. Although we are uh certainly can pull something off for a larger discussion or if anybody has any clarifying or simple questions, feel free to shout it out. Now is now is the time. >> I just had a quick question on the higher place. Um, is that does that mean they got the state lottery certificate or whatever to open a full you know dispensary? >> So the process works where they get it's a weird process. >> I read it but it's uh we so they uh they get notified from the state that they are eligible to have a license. then they have to come to the city to make sure that the location that they're going to be in meets our regulations. Uh and then so we have to sign off on that. Um and then which is in essence sort of what we're doing now. And then they have to go back to the state to show them that they actually have done that and it meets it. And but then before they can actually open, then they have to go through a process where the state actually comes in and inspects them to to make sure that they're going to be compliant with the state statutes. >> Well, it's exciting that it's one of the local businesses. >> Yeah. No, and those guys have been there for for a while now and stuff. So, it's um I mean it's I think that's always been community's concerns is that they'd have people coming in that they don't know >> and um so far the people we've had even the one that's new it's been people who have had a connection to uh the community and so I think we've we've known them and and I think um I think that just makes it easier for everybody. >> No, I was thinking that from a safety perspective and all that other stuff that we know them is good. So >> great. It's it's a really awkward process to be honest. >> Yeah. I mean, I was just going to comment that it was nice to see that they're on the agenda that this was something that was, you know, something that obviously is is moving forward as a state. And it's nice to see that um the gentlemen that have that business, they've made an investment in our community and have built, you know, built built themselves into the fabric of the community. So, >> no, that's why I was excited to see their name and hoping it was the same thing. So, >> yeah, it's definitely nice that it's someone that came into town and said, "We're going to invest before we even though we can have this license. We're going to, you know, selling other products and things too, but coming it is just nice." And that's kind of what you guys have already said, but to have a a business that already established themselves and invested before they knew they could fully have it is nice because you see that happen in communities where, you know, they get a license, then they come in and and they maybe haven't kind of weaved themselves into the community yet. So, this is nice. For sure. >> Absolutely. So, great. Uh, any other discussions on any other consent items? Otherwise, I'd entertain a motion to approve. >> Motion to approve consent. >> All right. Motion from council member Bennish. >> Second. >> Second from council member Hatfield. Any other discussion? Although all those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. >> All right. Consent approved. All right. That moves us down to action items. Uh first action item is AA. It's a public hearing. Adopt resolution 2025-75 approving the imposition of service charges for the 2026 Downtown Special Services District. Uh, mayor and council members, I I always sort of enjoyed this night each year uh because this is something that uh uh started now this is will be our 12th anniversary of of going through since uh we worked with the downtown businesses to set up a downtown special services district. And I, you know, see the two friendly faces back there in the back that have put a lot of time and energy into uh really helping to make downtown a special uh place and this is a tool for them to to be able to to do that. So uh each year uh you know basically they ask us as businesses to impose a a tax against them and then they are then able we collect it but then we provide it back to them then to be able to use collectively for the uh for the good of downtown and marketing and events and all those types of things. So uh this is that action that we have to take each year to do that. And so I'll turn it over to Julie who can sort of go through details and we do have uh representatives here from the uh downtown special services district too. >> Thank you. Thank you mayor council members. >> Um I don't have a lot to add to the summary Matt just provided. >> Sorry. >> As as Matt indicated or alluded to Oh, thank you. As Matt indicated alluded to, the special service district was established in 2014. And so this has come yearly before the council every year since. Um the funds support the enhanced services for the downtown businesses and the downtown area, the events, the special amenities that go above and beyond what the city would typically pay. So that's kind of what the the poolled funds are used for in this special service district. The Chaza Downtown Business Alliance was designated to manage that district and um they use the funds to support and promote the businesses downtown and some of the initiatives they h have planned for next year with these funds are to market and promote on their websites and social media. They've been um working hard to ramp that up this year. They're creating opportunities for the ongoing businesses to communicate with each other with their monthly meetings and then one-on- ones. the businesses have been working together more and more this year. They're piloting short-term activations like popups, um, art installations. They're going to be launching new reoccurring event series such as concerts, seasonal festivals, kind of more familyfriendly type of events. And then they're going to continue engagement around the possibility of enlarging the district within the next year. The 2026 proposed budget is uh $58,100, which remains unchanged with the last several years. There's there is not an increase in the budget this year. Um each year the council is required to approve the special service district's operating budget and the corresponding service charges. Uh it requires holding a public hearing and then adopting the resolution. So both the resolution, the operating plan, and kind of the outline of the service charges that were all attached to your reports. Um, this will allow the business alliance to continue working to promote and re-energize our downtown and the businesses within. Uh, public hearing notices, um, and the proposed service charges for each of the properties were sent out a few weeks ago and staff is recommending the council hold a public hearing and adopt the resolution in front of you. Jen Angel with the Downtown Business Alliance, she's the administrator and Mel Carlson, who is one of the board members, are here um, and to speak um, regarding I'd be happy to take any questions if you have and I know I think Jen and Mel can speak as well. >> All right. >> Um I don't >> you have to hold a public hearing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't know if we want to do this before the public hearing after, but I don't know if Jen or Mel want to come up and just talk about >> this year and kind of what's up next, especially talking about expanding boundaries and maybe some events. You want to come talk? >> Yeah. that to start >> if you don't mind. >> Yeah, it doesn't matter. We're in a public hearing. >> Um >> I heard Mel wanted to say speak about everything >> she wrote is she wrote everything that we're going to talk about tonight. >> Right. >> Uh so it's fun to be up here because obviously we have two new council members um who we haven't got to talk about some of the work that we're doing downtown. So, welcome and we're excited to share with you some of the things that we've been doing because they're a a big change to I think some of what we've done in the past and we have more of that coming. Um, I'd like to start that by saying I feel like some of the turning of downtown was because road construction brings everyone together and we have had our fair share of that. Um, but it's done a it's been a catalyst I think for where we are today and some of the things that I'm going to share with you. Um, and I'm going to use the analogy that we've probably all heard, the crawl, walk, run analogy. I'm using that a lot in AI as I talk to people about how you use AI in that framework. And I think it really speaks to downtown. Um, when I started 10 years ago, we were definitely in the crawl stage, right? Like we didn't have a website, we didn't have an email, like we were we were bringing all of that stuff up and it was kind of the foundation. Um, and some of the things that Julie mentioned are more of the run that I'm going to talk about. Um, but our walk was really good. Like we've done a lot of great things. Um, our Halloween event is is fabulous. Um, hometown holiday continues to be a a place you come for carriage rides. Um, which are by far our number one thing that happens that day. Uh, but there's been a lot of, I think, really spectacular events that we've done in the past, but we know we need to do more. Um, if you ask any business down here, I think their fear is that the events are in Fireman's Park. They haven't been in the heart of Chaza. We're doing a lot of things to bring that back. We did some popup events out here in the plaza. We're looking at some other spaces in downtown in addition to having City Square Park back in kind of our hub of locations that we can do things at. Um, but we know we need to be down here and we know we have to increase that walkability. And that's where the community events that are happening right now every Saturday help us do just that. Um, and I'm I'm going to jump from events to kind of business engagement because if you were to ask either of us what we needed to make things successful, it would be the engagement of the business community. And sometimes that's like pulling teeth. Um, it hasn't been of late. Uh we we have new owners at size and he is at our meetings and he is doing popups at Hoft for um our community events uh on Saturdays. Um he's just he's out and about and he's engaging other businesses and getting them involved. Um I mentioned Hoft like they are a powerhouse together. Um and they are full of ideas of things that we can't think of. like you look at a board member of four or five people, we can't figure out all the ideas, but when we have new businesses coming in, they help generate those things that we can go test and try out. Um, and I think, you know, Jones Coffee, obviously the coffee is fabulous, but just them being at the meetings and sharing what they're seeing on that side of town and what Second Street is feeling like, again, it helps us figure out how we we do something good for everyone. Um, one of the biggest feedbacks we've had from a business engagement perspective is what are you going to do for the service-based businesses, right? Like it's really easy to market to the retail, to the restaurants, to that kind of um establishment, but how do we get people into our service-based businesses or understand them? And now that we've got those businesses coming, we can we can build, I think, scalable plans that really talk about that. So when you when you look at our walk phase, it was a lot of just leveling up what we had done in crawl. Now we're making bigger changes. Um and I think the biggest one I want to comment on is our social media strategy. For years we kind of reshared things that the businesses were doing and we did a live event when we did an event and those things were great seven, five, eight years ago. That's not how social media works these days. And I'm not an expert on social media because I'm old. And you sometimes have to be a little bit more in tune to how people are engaging with different forms of content. And so we've done that. We've partnered with Orange Ball um and they are able to help us drive content that people want to engage with and people remember. Um, we've seen our page views up 61% in the month that we've done this what I would call a PC, a proof of concept with Orange Ball. Um, because there is a spend associated with that. But a 61% increase in our page views, our downtown Chesa Facebook um, page is crazy. Um, we haven't had those kind of numbers since we started the page and those people coming and liking and engaging with the content puts it in front of more people. we got a badge because we are posting more relevant contact content. Um, and those things help us get that that's how the algorithms work. If you've heard your kids say that, it's legit. Um, that's how it works. The more we post and the more that content is good and scalable, the more it gets our content in front of other people. So, um, those are a few fun things that we've done. Our biggest post that we had was Jones Coffee on National Coffee Day. We had 23,000 views and engagements on that post. I mean, that's crazy. Um, so good fun things there. Um, we mentioned events or Julie mentioned events. Um, we tried uh a pop-up series here in the plaza. We think that's a scalable event that we can do going forward. We want to add more events and we want to add more events like our Halloween event. Um, if you've ever done the Halloween event here, it's this uh Saturday from 2:00 to 5:00 downtown. We have about 25 businesses in St. John's with their trunk or treat participating. Um, and a sip and shop, which as a parent of four children, that is the only way to trickor treat. I'm not saying, I'm just saying. Um, so this should be a really fun weekend down here. And it enables if um if community events are kind of a new idea. It enables our restaurants to get involved in a way that people can come and eat and then take their beverage to go and move about and shop and in this case trickor treat. Um, what's cool about that event is it's a low barrier to entry for our businesses. And that's what we're thinking about from a scalability perspective. How do we get you involved when it doesn't take much for you to actually be a part of it, but it's a really big bang for your buck. Like you get probably 600 families in your door at this trick-or- treat trick-or- treat event. Weather dependent, but it looks like it's going to be 60 and sunny. Um, and that's that's not bad for buying a couple bags of candy. Um, that's people finding you on a map. um and people standing in front of your business and then having that realization. So, those are the kind of events that we're driving towards because they're not only restaurants and retail, it's service, it's everyone down here that people can come and stop into and engage with. I'm going to pause there because I talk a lot. Um and I only have one point left, but I'll stop for that and see if there's any questions that you have for us >> for her. Clearly, she runs the show. Any questions for for Jen? >> I'm I'm so excited to hear this last point. >> Yeah, me too. >> Like I feel like it's kind of the cliffhanger. Yeah. >> Oh, well, I kind of left my crawl, walk, run thing, but I think when if I want to come back to that, I think the only way that we can run is with the continued partnerships. Like, we cannot do what we do on $58,000 without the partnership and support of the city and parks and wreck. And I think that's the big piece going forward. If we're going to do these series of events, we have to know what parks and wreck is doing. Like we have to plot our in our events in to complement what's happening. We have to do the same with the chamber. Like we can't go against the farmers market and the music that night. Like it's all one big cohesive idea of how we get people down here and get them moving around downtown. Um and we can't do that without that support. Um you know, we mentioned enlarging the district. We've had interest from um directions, east and west. >> Uh east and west. Um to think I was just camping and I got out alive. Uh and that's something that we're pushing for. They they're interested in joining it. I think they're seeing value in what we're doing here and that was that was in our walk stage. I think our run stage is going to be even more valuable to the businesses. Um, I think the other thing that we're looking at our our founding I wouldn't say our founding principle, maybe my founding principle is to do more with less, right? Like we all know that we used to do reindeers at Hometown Holiday and then we switched that up and we do llamas because reindeers are really expensive and llamas kind of look like reindeers and are not as expensive and the kids still love them. >> They don't want escape. I still >> and they're nicer. Kids still remember that when the one reindeer got away >> and kind of started trotting through the >> Yeah. >> And we're all like, "Oh, this isn't supposed to be happening. Let's slowly move this direction. >> Get that reindeer." Uh, and we still believe in that philosophy, but we also know things cost more now. It costs more to do our gift with purchases. It costs more to get a Santa. It costs more to have kids dance come and do an event. And so what we're trying to build is a good foundation to come back in the next couple years and say we'd like to increase the budget to continue to do more of these things that are helping you out um in a bigger scale. So that is I think all we have. >> Yeah. I guess I'll just say as I've loved being the leazison from the council to the downtown business alliance the last seven years and it has truly been crazy this last year or two years where um it used to be I would see the same 10 people at a meeting um we'd be in a small space and there'd be 10 of us and it was always the same 10 people trying to figure out what to do and um really since the construction while that was a very painful thing for the businesses is really has been to your great word catalyst for um where they're at now, which is the there's new people at every meeting, new businesses. They're coming, they're sitting on the board. Used to be hard to get a quorum. Still occasionally is, but there are more. Usually, they come into the meeting eventually. And um those service-based businesses are getting involved, you know, and it it's all, you know, we've multiple banks, things like that. And it's all a partnership. No one's competing. Um, everyone is just trying to build a better Chaza, better downtown Chaza, and build community in what they're doing. And it's just been incredible and just exciting. And I, you're absolutely right, being in the run stage. You guys are about to do a marathon like the things you're doing in the next year or two years are beyond exciting. Um, you know, we've been filming these locally yours videos and we sat down with Andy at Redbench and um, I think I asked him, you know, what what would what advice would you give someone wanting to open a business in downtown Chaza and he said, "Do it quick because it's this is the place to be." And I think he was spot on um that this is really the place to be for businesses. And um I just am so beyond excited because you guys, the whole group that comes on those Friday mornings, mind you, it's at 7:30 in the morning, which is a terrible time to be awake, but they are. And they're thinking hard and they're everyone's happy and engaged and that is rare to because they're not getting paid. I mean, they're business owners, so they're they're investing in a way, but no one's being paid to be there. They're choosing that on a Friday morning. And so, I think that's really incredible. really lucky as a city to have such an engaged um downtown business alliance. So, thanks for all you do. >> We are very lucky. >> Have you tried to partner with the local um like St. John's or I think Guardian Angels has a preschool again this year or things like that um to sponsor the the service industries to sponsor school events or booths at school events. I know my children are at St. Huberts and a lot of the Chanhassen businesses. Of course, you know, the restaurants will support, but the insurance brokers, the realators, the, you know, things that you don't hear as much about will have a booth at a lot of the big school events or contribute to something because parents go where their pets go and their kids go and they spend money where their pets and their kids are. So, it's it's a way for them to let you know they're in Chanhassen and that they're interested in some of the things that your children are doing or supporting, you know, like a marathon or things like that. I think that's still an opportunity for us. I think um St. John's joined the Halloween event a couple years ago and that was a like that's a huge opportunity because it just brings in a whole different um group of individuals who are down here for another event and it just it it blends together. And when you think of hometown holiday like we we have the Girl Scout boutique that happens um at at the church in the mornings and those are all things that I think feed off of each other. Um, it's great to hear, it's great to hear that Guardian Angels is reestablishing the school because I think that was a big loss for us. Um, all of those parents, my kids are at St. John's that are driving their kids down here or down here for pickup or down here for sports are all people who are like I don't know if you if you all saw size events that he did during back to school week when he had like here's your back to school dinner. It's pizza tonight. It's hamburgers tomorrow. Just stop in, pick them up, and you're ready to go. and like >> all of that kind of works together, but I think we still have room to grow those partnerships. >> Yeah. >> No, it's a huge I know it's a huge thing that we look forward to. There's something called brunch after the bell where PTA and any moms who want to join Friday mornings once a month go to a local place in Chanhassen and the discount is because a local business person sponsored the discount that day on food. So, you know, again, where realers get their names in or fall festival and last day of school events. They have booths and they're sponsoring games that the kids play or prizes or just great ways for the them to get involved that bring the community out. Well, and I think that's something in their community >> support the service industry or the service businesses because that is that is something that we are continuing to to try and figure out >> um is how best to support them so they feel they're getting the same reward that that our other businesses are. >> Very cool. >> Yeah, it's been really exciting. I've been able to attend a few of your meetings. Sometimes I have a conflicting transportation meeting. Um, sometimes I skip that. Sorry. Some because it's way more exciting to come to the downtown business alliance meeting. Uh, but with that being said, I've seen the energy, you know, firsthand as far as new businesses kind of coming into the fold, being able to do the locally locally yours videos. Now, that's throughout the whole city of Chaza, but the ones downtown, just seeing the enthusiasm and um and renewed energy. And then also seeing just the future with uh some of the activation um plans that we have in regards to some of our new infrastructure in town and how you guys are going to be able to best utilize that to really bring. Nothing makes me more excited than talking about business and talking about marketing and promotional opportunities. So, I have loads of ideas, but I certainly don't want to stress anybody out by dumping them all out onto a table. But, uh, it is really exciting. It's just fun to see. And then we also even have I know so many of our residents are very invested in the success of our downtown. That was one of the top things that when I um talked to residents last year during the election season was the number one topic of discussion. And people really care wholeheartedly about the success of our local businesses in downtown and being able to have a place that they can enjoy dining, you know, recreation and and be able to kind of um promote themselves for for other for their friends to come. And I think that's what's happening. It's there. And then we're kind of building that into that next stage of tourism where we're becoming that regional destination um and even the national destination for people to come and be able to to experience Chaska to its fullest potential and you guys are an important part of that. So I really appreciate all the hard work that you do on a tiny tiny tiny little budget. Um and hopefully what you whatever you need as far as you know action and things from us just let us know. Um >> you know I'm here I can I mean I don't I can't speak for everybody up here but I'm very very invested in the success of our downtown and so whatever needs to happen with that that's that's always in the forefront of my mind. So thank you. Well, and we know we know the community believes in it because we started a community-based newsletter that granted it only has like 900 subscribers right now, but we're only in our fourth month, but we have a 65% open rate on that newsletter, which is unheard of in email marketing. Um, so we know the community is interested in what's happening down here and wants to support it. So, I think we're all in it together. >> Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for all your efforts, both of you. You guys work so hard. So, um, with that, I think we have a public hearing that we need to open up. Um, and so let's go ahead and get that officially done. I open this public hearing up at 7:47. Is anybody want to come up and speak to the downtown business uh, service charge for their 2026 operating budget? No one's running up front. All right. Well, with that, I guess I I will close the public hearing at uh 7:48 p.m. >> And do we do we take action on something? We approve this, right? Or is it just a public hearing? I >> have to approve the resolution. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. So, we have a resolution to adopt here as well. So, let's see. The resolution to adopt. Uh, I'd entertain a motion for the adoption of resolution 2025-75 imposing the service charges and setting the 2026 operating budget and plan for the Chesa downtown Special Service District. >> So moved. >> All right, we got a motion from Council Member Hatfield. >> Second, >> and a second from Council Member Gra. Any other discussion? >> All right, all those in favor say I. >> I opposed. >> Motion carries. All right. Thank you guys for coming. All right, so uh that moves us along to 8B uh on our agenda. Motion to adopt resolution 2025-73 approving the concept plan for Zero Creek Road Jennerhoff Rough Schlberof >> Schluto >> PC number 2025-15. I apologize. I should have sounded out. Uh mayor and council members, item in front of you tonight is for uh a site that basically is at the intersection of Creek Road and Savannah Way. Uh so right when you're coming down Savannah Way towards Creek Road, it's right in front of you. Uh looking at uh turning that into three single uh family uh home subdivision. And uh this has gone through the planning commission and is being recommended for approval of the concept plan. And I think it's Liz taking this one. So, >> thank you, Matt. >> Thank you, council and mayor. Uh, we have a concept plan in front of us this evening for the property known as Zero Creek Road. Um, being proposed by Jen and Scott Schlatterof. Uh, the site in question is highlighted in uh the orange yellow on this aerial exhibit. Uh the property is located within our southwest CHSA area. Uh the streets that abut this property is Creek Road on the south side and then Savannah Way um intersects with Creek Road at a new roundabout uh which basically um abuts the southwestern portion of the site. Uh the other adjoining uses in the area is mainly residential. Uh we do have other existing uh larger lot uh single family um uses kind of on the east and southeast portions of the site. Uh existing agriculture use with open fields on the north and west sides. Um and then you have additional detached single family uh even more south of uh those existing residential uses. Highway 212 also is within uh proximity on the west side of the site as well. Uh we're at the first step in our three-step process. So we will be seeing this two other times. Uh this first step is more of a highle overview and kind of the identification of issues and other comments for them to uh respond to in their next uh steps in the process. Uh just to give you a background, so Jen and Scott Schlatterof have resided in the city of Chaza for over nine years. Uh they do own the property at 4080 Creek Road. So it's the property immediately east of this one. Uh they did purchase this property back in 2024 with the intention to develop it for their family to live on. Um they started the process earlier this year and did conduct a neighborhood meeting in August. uh they did have two attendees at that meeting and there were no stated opposition uh to the project itself. Uh so the site in question this is an existing conditions plan uh just highlighting some of those uh major characteristics of the site. Uh the property itself is a little under or almost um 8 acres in size. Uh there is an existing field access road that um provides access off of uh the northwest portion of the roundabout at Creek Road and Savannah Way. Uh it's a gravel road. Um and again they'll um utilize this exist existing access point with their development layout. Uh the west side of the site which is highlighted in purple is uh mainly open field use um and is basically the high point of the site. Um and the rest of the development or rest of the property not shown in purple is encumbered by um either wooded steep slopes uh roadway easement or Chaza Creek. Um the highest point on the property uh is roughly 34 feet above uh Creek Road. So if you drive down there, you'll see quite a bit of a a grade change from the road and up into the site there. Um and with all of the uh characteristics of the site and what's considered buildable, only about 2.4 acres are really buildable of this 8 acre site. The zoning out here is an open zoning district, which is a holding zone until it develops and gets reszoned in that um appropriate process. Uh just a few images of the site uh looking north on Creek Road. Uh the top left image is looking on uh the northwest side where that field access road um is today. Uh the top right image is looking from kind of the east eastern leg of that roundabout um and looking north. So you can see that grade change from the road and up into uh the open field of the site. The bottom right image is looking from the site and down over the creek road roundabout. And then the bottom right image is kind of that open field space um looking north on the property. Uh so they're proposing a concept plan. Um and as Matt mentioned, this is a three lot uh subdivision being proposed. Uh only two of the lots would move forward in the platting process and be uh platted as actual lots while the third one would be platted as an outlaw for future development. Um the size of these parcels range in size from 1.6 acres up to 3.5 acres. Um the setbacks proposed are kind of standard uh residential setbacks. Um plus uh with wooded steep slopes present on the property, they have additional setbacks from those um uh natural characteristics as well. Um and then a creek road setback uh from the center line that has to be adhered to. Um and one of the reasons uh that they're pursuing two lots for platting versus all three um is that um uh in the beginning here they will be showing or using a shared uh access or a common driveway to access those two lots. Um and per code the max amount of lots that can access off of a shared driveway is two. When you get into three lots or more, you're looking at a public or private road setup. Uh that's required. Um as far as the comprehensive plan guides this area, um the m uh the open space of the site is guided that low density residential while uh the majority of the site is shown as open space. uh in the comprehensive plan uh the use that's being proposed is consistent with a low density residential guidance. Um and when we look at the description of uh the low density residential um uh uh land use within our comprehensive plan, it does guide a density threshold within that which is a two to five dwelling units per net acre uh guidance. Um the proposal for three lots is at 1.25 dwelling units per net uh acreage. Uh so in that sense it doesn't um fully meet the comprehensive plan's guidance for density out here. And I'll get into more on that in some subsequent slides. Um another point out the comprehensive plan does guide a future lo local road extending off of the roundabout. um in the comprehensive plan um which would be a connector point between Creek Road up to Angler Boulevard to the north. Um this would be a local road uh probably a two-lane road. Um with the two lots that are being proposed and moved forward forward with it does not warrant the construction of this road as the density just um doesn't require that much traffic for the construction of that road. Um we have noted uh before that the need of this road um in terms of its location um and overall design would be determined um at a later time uh when additional surrounding development occurs in this area. um but have also stated that it's important that the plan that moves forward on this property doesn't preclude the ability uh for the comprehensive plan to be achieved in the future. >> So Liz, are you saying that eventually the future local road will feed off of that of where the roundabout that north? >> Yeah, the way the >> and then their driveways would be kind of off the is of that. >> Yep. We'll get into a couple other slides that will kind of analyze that a little bit more, but yeah, the way the comprehensive plan is guided right now, it does show or guide um the northern side of the roundabout to have a local road extend off of it. I think there's still a question, and it's really based on how development is going to occur around uh the surrounding area, whether or not there's a need for that road. Okay. Um but at this point of what we know um the plan or proposal um is showing that that could still be fit into the the overall layout out there and not preclude it from happening. >> Okay. >> Um so getting into the analysis of how this proposal fits with the comprehensive plan, there are a few challenges that um are at play uh which make the density hard to be able to achieve. Um, and some of those factors are the overall buildability acreage of the site. It's only 2.4 acres of buildable space out of an 8 acre site. Um, there's significant topography um, as you can see just looking from Creek Road that um, limits the buildability um, on the the highest point of the property. wooded steep slopes and cumber a majority of the site and then factoring in buffer and setback requirements from that to also start to constrict that buildability as well. Uh access into the site um is also limited just based on the location of the parcel adjacent to the roundabout. Um and then um getting into um all of the buffer areas where access can occur um and so forth. uh it really creates an irregular shaped area to build on uh which then kind of limits where building pads can be placed and where future driveway um access points can be placed as well. Um and some goals and objectives that I think are both shared from the staff side as well as the applicant side. Um is there um is a goal to minimize uh impacts on the environmental resources that are out there uh specifically the wooded steep slopes uh but also an objective to maximize the density as much as possible um on site as well. Um because of the unique challenges of this property, um we've had conversations with the applicant that go back months of how to kind of look at this site and um uh look at the future development of it. Um, so we did advise the applicant to show and provide a ghost plan for how the development can fit into the long range plan. Uh, both from a density standpoint and a future roadway standpoint. Um and if there's a challenge in physically doing that on their own site um for meeting the minimum density um then um we advised them to show how that can kind of fit into a bigger picture outside of their their site limits. Um so in some um this advisement was to have them show a plan uh or a proposal that does not preclude uh achieving the comprehensive plans density um and roadway guidance for the future. So the applicant did take that advisement um and produced three different plans um as tangible demonstrations of how this development proposal can really uh look to the future and how it can fit in um to that bigger picture. Uh so the first plan they provided is more of a hand drawing or what we would call the ghost plat sketch. Um and this was done so that uh they could show how the proposal um uh just looking at uh their parcel alone um shows the extension of a local roadway through the site from that north side of the roundabout. Uh but also showing the grading limitations or grading limits of that proposed road given the significant topography that occurs there too and how those building paths or uh layout of lots um either fit in or don't fit in to kind of um those conceptual understandings. Um so that's what the bottom or the left hand uh image or sketch sketch shows there. Grading limits are shown in red. building pads are shown in green. Uh they produced another ghost plat uh this one meeting a standard zoning district uh of the city uh which is our R1A zoning district which is defined as a low density residential zoning district. Um and also showed um the areas uh to the north and to the west in terms of how they're guided uh per the comprehensive plan. Um so applying a standard zoning district out there meeting minimum lot sizes and setbacks. Um and also showing uh the local roadway access they're able to achieve a 1.3 dwelling unit per net acre density on that ghost plan. Um, and then taking it a step further, kind of working off of that plan and applying um, PRD zoning or more flexible zoning to get to that 2 unit minimum. Um, is basically the same plan, but um, upping the density on the north side there to get to that two units per net acre. Um again this is meant to show um that eventually um you know looking at the comprehensive area uh the plan would fit into what the comprehensive plan uh has this guided for. >> You said they own this land today. >> Yes. >> Is there uh water and sewer and all that to it? >> Yep. There are water and sewer stubs on the north side of the roundabout. >> So there would be no reason for like utilities to not be able to get to this. >> Correct. Yep. So they they do have a conceptual utility plan that they provided in um their exhibits to show how the utilities can extend to the lots. Yep. >> And that would be required too just based on the location of their lots. >> What's this what's this on that proposed road? Like I'm looking at the space on the map and there it's just like wow is it's a weird skinny road to try to get in there in that space to connect. What's this like distance from that and the offramp? That's the 212 right there. >> There's the offramp is north of there on Angler. Um and also south of there on Bigwoods Boulevard. This is Creek Road. >> Well, no. Like what is this? >> So it starts coming >> I screwed. >> It starts uh >> right here. >> Yeah. So it starts coming up and it starts coming up into Extra's property. I think that's their property there. >> Okay. >> Um I think one of the things that makes I mean I think it's good that we're showing sort of what can happen in the future so we're not precluding anything. Um because one of the the probably the differences of sort of how we may have anticipated development to happen out here when the comp plan was put together compared to how it's how it's being proposed is I think we always sort of assume that that whole area from Angler coming all the way down the creek road would be one sort of property uh coming down. So I think what this does is it says okay how do we make sure that this plan doesn't preclude that from happening in the future so that you can create connections um >> which is why that road is in there makes >> yeah there's there's that and you know at the time that southwest chasa was being planned um you know what is now largely the harvest and the areas south of that that are developing um land use did provide for significantly more density than what has materialized right and so the the nature of the um transportation network that needs to exist to serve what has now developed versus what could have are different things. >> Yep. >> Yeah. I recall like when we talked about even this the Ingler project with the county the potential collector road being this but >> Yep. And it basically it it comes out on angler at the entrance into points west. >> Yes. That's why it stands out so much in my mind. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I just had a quick question since this infographic's up. So they're currently the driveway will be the the current like service road >> with but this is for the future. So then that would obviously be removed. It would move. >> Correct. Right. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Yeah. Yeah, and I probably didn't clarify that in um earlier slides, but they would utilize the ex existing access point that's currently on the roundabout. They would kind of realign the driveway from there too to meet setbacks and grading limits and that sort of thing, but that would effectively go away should a public road or local road extension um need to occur. So, this these ghost layouts are kind of showing the reorientation of the driveways onto that local road. >> Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that that made sense. >> And again, I don't I don't think that this uh implies that it's a guarantee that there's going to be a road connection down there, >> right? Um, it's just saying we want to make sure that it can because to Nate's point, you know, depending on what kind of density actually comes up on the property to north, >> you know, if it's a higher density, it, you know, we probably don't want it all going to one access point. We probably want to have a couple different ways to be able to get in and out of that neighborhood. >> Um, if it's not as high density, then we may look at it and say, "Well, it may not be needed." So, just getting into kind of the zoning a little bit more. So, because of the zoning district that this property is in, it will require to be reszoned during the preliminary phase. Um, so we did uh complete a table um both here and in the staff report just to show how um you know there's kind of two avenues that the applicant can explore. um either a standard zoning district avenue, which would be R1B, um or they could go the uh more flexible uh or what we would consider more flexible route, which is a PRD, um which I think are both consistent options with our comprehensive plan. So, it's really up to the applicant to determine what um makes the most sense with what they're proposing. Um um so that will be something that they need to define in the preliminary stage, but the the table is really meant to show how their proposal um kind of compares to those minimum standards that are defined both in the R1B uh zoning district and the PRD zoning district. So just a few things for them to work on as they prepare for uh preliminary. um they will have to produce a tree inventory and preservation plan. I didn't get into too much of that, but because of the wooded character of the site, um it will be important to show uh a preservation plan in conjunction with what they're proposing. Um and then also for them to uh determine uh what route they'd like to go uh with a zoning district. and um depending on what zoning district they uh select, they'll have to meet the minimum uh standards that are defined in that zoning district. Uh so with that, uh we're asking you to make a motion this evening to adopt resolution number 2025-73, uh which is approving the concept plan for uh the three lot subdivision at Zero Creek Road. Um and then based on the conditions that are listed within uh that document, happy to answer any other questions. We do have um Scott Slaughter off here as well to help answer questions. >> Is there any concerns about a I just can't think of another spot where there's like a residential driveway off of a roundabout. Now, that's not a very busy roundabout and it likely, you know, if it ever is, then it's going to be a road. So it's I think a marginal concern but is there any I mean it's so little used I probably down there but any concern on that >> not that have been defined from an engineering standpoint I think because of the low density of it there hasn't been a huge concern uh granted you know we're still in concept phase so you know we're looking at this more high level um and more analysis This will probably come in preliminary, but nothing that's been stated that we we think um are big red flags or things that can't be sustained with the orientation of that access point right now. >> Well, but if I understand that correctly, too, just to double on your point, >> it's it's not really off the roundabout right now. >> Right. >> Right. >> You go all the way around and then it's there. Yeah. Yeah. >> And then when it becomes big enough to be a >> round, that's what leads off the roundabout. >> Yeah. >> Just >> it's close to the roundabout. I get that. But yeah, it's not like it's the natural curve and you're going straight. You're going to go all the way around. >> Couple things I can add um to that to what Liz laid out. >> Um yeah, I think I can I'll affirm, you know, the idea that this is two single family homes, so the level of traffic here is not significant, right? Um, so >> we have the same issue on the other side of the road too >> with the Cruz family that has the farm down there's >> they have an access that's pretty close to straight across from there. And if that was a lot of houses there, we'd say that doesn't work. >> But when it's one user like that, it's not that big a deal. >> Yeah. You're not getting the density of traffic. The other piece on there and the main thing that we've I think we have focused on >> with the slaughter offs is um making sure that it's accessible for emergency vehicles, right? So, primarily fire um and making sure that the trucks will be able to get up there. Um and if that's not an option, then we have to look at sprinkling and things. I don't think they're interested in that. And so, um we're working with them on that. Um and you know, so far I don't think we've seen anything where it won't be able to be achieved. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's a nice it's nice plan. It you know it's always nice to keep spaces wooded and you know low density and honestly like getting to live next to your sister is a dream. So that's cool too some >> I love that for some of them. Okay. >> I am best friends with my sister so getting to live next to my sister would be a dream. But um >> just wait till there's kids and they're all running down your road to you. >> Yeah. And next to grandparents. That's Yeah. Like a family compound. Sign me on. Um yeah, so I I think it's nice plan and um some good things to work through, but >> and I think the the design or the elevation at least of the proposed homes, it's very nice. It fits, you know, a lot with the area and the idea of a larger lot and a wooded lot and all those things that come with those things. You've done a nice job with kind of laying out what that would look like. So, >> we're excited. I would just say, yeah, I would echo kind of the fun. You know, we we look at a lot of developments that are lots of houses and they're going to be sold, right? And here's a situation where it's like they're all we already they already know who's going to own them, right? And that's so it's kind of a unique property and kind of a fun little piece, too. So, it's it's >> I think it's fun. >> Yeah. I the only thing I would talk about that is just the biggest risk with just low traffic, which is good. I'll make sure I tend to I actually start going that way more often now. uh coming from uh yeah, I like that route. >> Um it's just the quick turn, right? Like because you go a roundabout, you're not expecting someone maybe to be turning right right away. >> Um so it's just the fear of rear ending or being rear ended will be the little piece of it. But again, it's not a lot of traffic, right? It's families there. It's just and we all should be mindful when we go around roundabouts anyway. So >> no, very exciting. >> Yeah. I mean, I feel like everything has been said, questions and and uh further things to evaluate when coming through for the preliminary. But it is really exciting to see and uh what a great opportunity and the homes propose at least the look of them. They're they look beautiful. So all right. Well, with that you guys, I would entertain a motion for approval of >> motion to adopt. >> Yes. Motion to adopt resolution. Oh, you making a motion? Yeah. Oh, okay. Motion from council member Chevlin. >> Second >> and a second from council member Gra for motion to adopt resolution number 2025-73 approval of the concept plan for the three lot single family subdivision at zero creek road. Any other discussion? All right. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. >> Motion carries. All right. All right. Yeah. Thank you. All right, move us along to 8C. Motion to adopt resolution 2025-74 approving the concept plan for PV business Business Center uh SL Shaw Construction PC number 2025-14. Mayor and Council, the item in front of you tonight is actually uh this is a a strip of land uh that was once uh owned by aation uh industries when they owned the building to the south and it was actually uh owned as a parcel for them to be able to expand uh their business. Uh long quite a few years ago they decided to dispose of that. Now Aeriation Industries is no longer there. There's another business looking at that. Um, and so this uh site has been um has been up for sale for quite some time. We did have it come in front of us uh several years back for some I think it was office condos uh that had been looked at uh for there. Uh and this proposal would be uh putting an 18,000 foot industrial building with outdoor storage there. So this is a concept plan. So the first stage I think Ashley is taking this one and it is coming from the planning commission for uh recommendation for the approval of the concept plan. >> Thank you Matt. Uh so we are up in the northeast corner of Chaza. Uh the Chaza Chan border uh kind of wraps around uh this industrial area. Uh we are looking at these this property just to the east of Highway 41 uh between 41 and PB Road. We are in a concept plan. So as Liz mentioned earlier, our plans are high level. Our review is also high level and we're really looking at just identifying issues that we're going to resolve as we move through that process. Uh the request before you this evening from Shaw Construction uh is for an 18,000 square foot industrial building uh with outdoor storage in the rear. Uh there are two tenants that have been identified to occupy uh that new building. They are here this evening. Uh that is Southwest Rental and Sales. Uh they're relocating uh from another site within Chaza. and then crimson and copper plumbing which would be coming from another community. As Matt alluded to, uh the council in 2005 did approve a number of land use related items for the Chesca business lofts. Uh that was to allow for three buildings uh roughly 6 to 8,000 square feet each uh for to accommodate uh about 15 tenants uh total. Uh the zoning for the property prior to 2018 was PID2 uh for planned industrial district. Generally that district like many of our others established setbacks, permitted uses, accessory uses, etc. Uh as it relates to this project, uh that district also prohibited outdoor storage on lots that were adjacent to Highway 41. In 2018, all of those properties that were zoned PID2 were reszoned to PID8 uh industrial. There weren't many changes uh that came out of that reszoning. It was really to accommodate some additional standards related to residential uses that had developed to the east in the city of Chanhassen. And so that uh prohibitation of outdoor storage uh did remain uh as part of the district through that resoning. The site today uh is 2.7 acres. It's currently vacant. Uh so while the final plat for Chesca Business Lops was uh was filed creating that unique lot configuration for those condo spaces, um those buildings were never constructed. There is a crossaxis easement area that was also recorded as part of that project. Uh that area is shown in red. Whoops, I'm going to flip back. And that was really to allow the secondary access uh to improve site circulations as part of that previous approval. So, while the buildings uh were not constructed, uh the plat and that easement were recorded. There is a type one wetland uh that exists on the western side of the property along Highway 41. And then as you can see from these photos, uh this one looking west towards uh 41, uh a lot of the vegetation from the site have been removed uh for ash removal. And then as you're looking east, there are some remaining uh trees on the site uh that we would require a tree inventory to kind of show where their exact location is on the property to understand uh what the impacts would be from the site improvements. And the one of note uh that a condition of approval has been included for this evening uh relates to this large mature oak tree uh in that southeast corner. Uh the highest point of the property uh is up along that northern property line. Uh the property is relatively flat as it sits in the center uh with most of that drop off happening as you move down to PB Road. It's about a 14 foot uh elevation change. So, the plan before you this evening um really shows two phases. Uh the phase that we're focusing on tonight is that first phase. Uh it is a 12,000 square foot building uh with a 6,000 square foot mezzanine level. So, it's a total of 18,000 square ft. Uh the building itself would have would be 28 feet tall with two foot parapits to add some visual interest and some screening. and building facade materials would be primarily brick and pre-cast aggregate panels uh with some glass and metal accents. The there is also uh an 11,700 ft outdoor storage area that would be in the rear of the property. Uh the plans before you this evening and included in your packet show an 8-ft wood fence with brick accents on the corners uh to screen that outdoor storage. And then uh their plan also shows 31 parking stalls that would be constructed as part of phase one and then 15 uh proof of parking stalls that are inside that outdoor storage area. And then phase two, uh, which would require future approvals and consideration, but is shown on here to show what, uh, could happen on that eastern side of the site, includes a future 9,000 ft² building and additional uh, parking. Moving through our analysis of the plan uh as it relates to land use. Um the proposed use would be in alignment with the 2040 comp plan guidance for industrial uses and generally the uses uh within the building. Uh the floor plan is showing six tenants and those uh warehouse and office uses would be consistent with what's allowed in the PID8 district. However, as I noted before, uh outdoor storage on properties along 41 is prohibited. And so, if this project were to move forward in that next step in phase two of our uh land use review process, uh there would be a zoning amendment needed in order for that to happen. That's not under review for this evening. Um, but you will note as was asked of the planning commission, if the council so wishes to provide feedback on that outdoor storage, uh, that would be helpful for both staff and, uh, the applicant here this evening. As it relates, uh, to the building itself, uh, facade materials are appropriate. Uh, 42% meeting that class one standard above what our code would require. Uh, 50% meeting class two, again, uh, what our code would require. and then the remaining uh falling into that class three uh classification building setbacks uh meet or exceed what would be or what are allowed or required in the PD8. So that box is also checked as it relates uh to access and parking requirements. Uh the site would be accessed from uh PB Road to the east. uh no access would be shown on to 41 uh which is uh as required by the PD8 district. So we're checking that box as well. Uh the park proposed parking again uh at 45 stalls shown on the plan uh would meet the requirements by code for the currently proposed warehouse and office uses. However, our parking ordinance does have a provision uh that does require additional proof of parking or additional stalls. uh when a warehouse use is included and that's really to ensure that there's adequate parking if that warehouse use converts into a more intensive user like office. And so that's where those additional 18 stalls getting up to the 63 stalls um is coming from. And so as the project moves forward again, we would look for those additional stalls to be shown on the site plan uh likely as proof of parking. So that's included in your packet for this evening as well. uh the proposed parking lot uh and access to get to that parking lot throughout the site uh do meet the setback requirements from rights of way. However, uh the parking lot or excuse me the access roads are shown at a 5-ft setback from those north and south property lines when 10 ft is required. Uh so we would look for those setbacks for that parking lot to be adjusted to meet that setback requirement moving forward and then subsequently we would just ensure that uh site circulation uh for our fire equipment is still being accommodated as it's currently shown. Uh staff is currently also evaluating and working with the city attorney to understand uh the city's obligations and what our involvement is with that cross access easement that still exists on the property. Um if those site improvements that are described in that access agreement are not constructed. Is there currently not shown to be? Uh what are the implications of that? And then also understanding that the site plan is showing other site improvements within that access uh crossaxis easement area. Uh what are the implications of that as it relates to landscaping? Again, understanding uh the site impacts to that large oak tree uh will be something that we'll want to understand moving forward. Uh but generally the landscaping plan appears to meet uh landscaping requirements when it comes to quantity. Uh we'll look for additional landscaping details as we move forward to ensure that we're meeting uh the other requirements related to species and sizes. Uh utilities. Uh this plan is really just showing that utilities are available to the site. They're going to be extended from PB Road. uh storm water would be generally collected and directed to the two filtration basins, one on the west side of the property and then one on the southeast corner of the property. Uh in August, uh the developer did host a neighborhood meeting there invited 16 properties which meets that 500 ft notification area. No one did appear to that uh meeting. And then on October 8th, so I don't know a week and a half ago, it went to the planning commission. Uh the applicant and the future tenants were also present. They answered some questions that the planning commission asked of them. Uh just related to timing of construction of the future building as well as just some questions about site security and lighting needs and then just general uh overall business operations and hours. Uh the planning commission then also did discuss the outdoor storage area as it related uh just to location and screening. You know what does that look like? They felt that because it was behind uh the new proposed building that that was a reasonable location and would provide some screening from 41 which was really the intent uh they believed of that prohibitation. Uh they did also agree that uh stored materials should not exceed the height of the fence. So, whatever that fence height is should be the max height of whatever is stored within it to ensure uh adequate screening. Uh they also discussed just some concerns that they had uh about the potential for future requests from other property owners uh if outdoor storage were allowed on this property and what could be done to mitigate that uh and anticipate that that could happen. uh but ultimately uh they did approve the request uh move or they recommended approval of the request moving forward. So again uh if the project were to move forward uh there's a couple things that are required. Uh it would either be preliminary and final plat which would come before you. Uh that's really to address uh that remaining lot configuration coming out of the Chesa business lofts. Uh the other alternative would be for the applicant to just lock combined. that is something that can happen at the county. So that would not come before you. And then site and building plan reviews uh for that new building uh outdoor storage area and associated site improvements. Uh but then that third item occurring again in the second phase would be that zoning ordinance amendment uh to allow the outdoor storage. So things uh again just summarizing that we're going to continue to look for as we move forward into primary um or preliminary not primary thinking election season I guess I'm getting ahead of myself uh as it relates to parking again increasing that parking lot setback and then adding those additional stalls uh understanding the tree inventory and landscaping details as well as an illumination plan uh and then continuing to detail out the utility storm water and site circulation plans for review and then uh just continuing to evaluate the tree impacts and the cross access easement implications uh as well as outdoor storage. Uh so this evening again if the council so wishes uh you can discuss and provide feedback understanding that it doesn't guarantee any future or final decision by you. Um but if you wanted to provide some feedback on whether the proposed outdoor storage and necessary zoning amendment is reasonable and is something that they uh could continue to pursue for the site. That would be helpful. Uh, and then we would look for a motion. So, with that, I'll turn it back to you for any questions. >> So, I'm struggling with the orientation of this building, I guess, because not all of the buildings on there are oriented the same, but I want to make sure I understand, and you kind of said this, so I'm pretty sure, but from 41, we'll see like the front of the building. >> Yes. >> Right. versus because some of those buildings on PV the orientation is the looks like. Yes. >> So this the orientation of the front of the building would be 41. That's what you would see there. Behind the building is where that outdoor storage and then there's the potential future building. >> Correct. >> Okay. Correct. >> Yep. So this uh west this would be the western elevation. So this would be the front of the building where the customers or people visiting the site would enter. That would be your view from 41. Okay. And then the outdoor storage area would be fenced in behind the new building. >> Okay, >> makes sense. >> Um, do we the outdoor storage in the back? We believe highway 41 because I assume the reason I asked I assume that I met that ordinance is written that way because the 41 being a hightra space and not wanting a huge visibility of outdoor stuff >> because as much as you want to organize it it's going to be stuff right um I understand so my question is is there vis do we think there's visibility it's set back of where we you would see really see the storage from 41. So, one of the things that we've talked about a lot um in evaluating this plan and working with the applicant is understanding the intent of the no outdoor storage um you know on this area and I think you're hitting the nail on the head is it's really about that visibility to 41 and PV um and making sure that you know what is I think a pretty clean professional looking business park out there today um continues to be that way right and so um that's what we've sort of laid out working with the applicant say, "Well, you know, this isn't permitted today. Uh, you're asking for an exception. So, if we're going to go down that road, it really needs to be in line with the intent and the vision, right, for that business park and continue to maintain that." So, how would we achieve that? And that's where we've talked about really trying to orient any outdoor storage away from 41, having it, you know, not visible um from either road. Um, and I think, you know, the way that the applicant has positioned the building relative to 41 and then that that future second building, um, you know, should that occur really kind of buries that outdoor storage in the middle of the site and limits that visibility opportunity. You also consider the surrounding area and the buildings that exist. Um, and so the angles that exist to see behind what this new building would be are pretty limited. Um, that's good. >> Yeah, that's >> Well, I think also the fact that it wouldn't be over the top of the fence, >> right? >> Would also >> Yeah, we we say that and then we enforce I mean, and I'm not saying that the applicant that's here doing that would do that, right? >> But there's future applicants if things move on, right? And then it becomes an enforcement piece, right? Because we can say not above fence, we got to enforce above not the fence. So, >> um, okay. The second part of that question is I think first of all I'll just say that I'm not a huge fan of making special cases for special projects in general. Um so I would and I and I do worry about the okay you made one and as redevelopment happens what does that look like the other and for me it really is the key of the visibility of 41. Um, if you look at PV, I think that's important, too. But generally PV is going to be >> people it's people who are driving there are going to those places of business, right? It's not >> it's also a very pretty fall road. >> I highly recommend. >> Nice. >> Like right now it's high. >> Yeah, it would be really pretty right now. >> Again, I like that would be a little, you know, it's it's really kind of that gateway. 41 tends can be a gateway, right? And so you want to preserve that. So I think it'd be create if we like if we think about what that amendment writes. I think talking about the visibility pieces is critical because, you know, I don't want a situation where another down the road and they're like, "Oh, we're going to put it in front. You approve this. You said we could. We're going to ask for the same." Because that's not the spirit of what they're attempting to do, >> which is great. Um, so I really would want to think about and I'm sure staff would do too like what is the wording of that amendment because it'd be nice to be able to repeat use that if we're going to make an exception knowing that if you make one exception you're going to >> well it's a precedent that gets set >> you're going to get two >> and I respect the fact that they really are working with staff thinking about how do we protect that view um and whatnot. So that that's kind of just my thoughts like I guess I I'd ask the applicant I know for asking them up. My assumption is that in lie of an outdoor storage, it would be a warehouse that you would build. It's cheaper, right? That's that I'm assuming that's the reason why it's outdoor storage versus a enclosed building is it's ultimately cheaper for the use of what is going in there. >> You you certainly may. I mean, I Yeah, perfect. >> Craig John Garary, Southwest Rental and Sales, Southwest Power Equipment. Uh we've owned Southwest Rental and Sales since 2013. Uh Southwest Rental and Sales has been a business in Chaza for 25 years. Uh we are the third owners. Uh we are currently about 150 yards down the road. Um and we no longer can renew in our space. So uh we don't have much of a choice but to make a move by the end of 2026. Um we would like to stay in Chaza. There are not a lot of options for us to stay in Chaza. Um we understand that outdoor storage is it is very difficult everywhere especially in metro area cities. Nobody wants to see it. Nobody wants it. I get it. Um we do have a lot of equipment. Um but we feel that the equipment that we have can be very well shielded by the fence and the difference in the cost between outdoor storage and say warehouse would take us out of the market. We would not be able to stay if we had to build warehouse for all of our equipment. >> Understood. Okay. I appreciate like I said that was my assumption but I don't I always like to make assumptions. So just as you're up there what type of equipment does get stored there? Okay. To to give you guys a little bit idea if you you're not familiar with Southwest Rental and sales, we do party rental, equipment rental, um and tool rental. So, uh we do a lot of grad graduation parties. We do some small weddings. Uh we rent to the city of Chesca. Um tables, tents, chairs, uh is pretty much the hard items of of party rental. We do all of that. Um, we do I would say small to mediumsiz equipment. So full-size skid loaders, small excavators and down. So uh track skid loaders, wheeled skid loaders, mini excavators to dig trenches to dig pools, to dig ponds to right, but not big stuff, right? Uh I think we measured our our tallest excavator as is 8'2 in tall. Okay. Um the tallest piece of equipment we have is 8 foot six and that is just the chute on a wood chipper. So uh for brush chipping, right? Um but we rent mini skid loaders, all of that stuff. Uh log splitters, chippers, uh and then all of your regular lawn care needs. So, aerration, uh, deatchching, seating, sod cutting, uh, as well as all of your interior project needs, uh, sanders and routers and planers and and chipping hammers and everything you could think you'd need for remodeling projects. So, um, we currently have like 16,000, uh, clients, uh, within the surrounding area. Now, we do ex we service customers as far as Bell Plane, as far as Savage, uh, into the lakes area, uh, and as far west as about Waconia. Um, but yeah, we do trailers, uh, and that would be the other concern is like if if we didn't have the space to put the trailers in an enclosed area, we're going to have to now have those in an open area, right? Which I think you guys would prefer them to be in the Right. and for security reasons, we would prefer him to be in a fenced area. >> So, >> okay, I appreciate that. Like I said, just a good perspective. And so, that's my comments. Like I said, I think I I like the spirit of how it's shielded. That's why I asked the question. Um, and I would really like to say like let's make sure that we're flexible to allow others to exceed seek that exception but be but meet the spirit of the what we're really still trying to protect is that kind of visibility from a hightra gateway into the city of Jasa >> and the drawings that were submitted. Um, the last one I presume is the fence that that looks very appealing because it kind of almost matches the building. Is that what you're planning to make it look like or will it be like chicken wire down the road? >> No. Uh, we do not plan on doing a wire. >> Okay. >> It will be a wood fence paint in the same color. >> Okay. Yeah, it looks it looks nice from the drawing. So, I was happy to see that when we're talking fence, we were talking chain link. And >> I would agree with council member Gar like it's the spirit of it. Um yeah it I always wor worry about precedent but I think if we can word it well and and definitely in that area thinking even about PB road there's a lot of mature trees so you know I know it's concept so we don't have landscape plans and whatnot but hopefully we'll see some of that come back to kind of continue that because it is there's it was a bummer obviously those ashes had to go but um it does look silly now especially because that area is very wooded. for having a business park there. Um it's very wooded and that's kind of nice. So I think the landscaping will be um important too. Um but I think it makes sense and I don't know if you were the owner when I worked at the K9 Club now the Hound Dog, but I remember them always being very good neighbors um across the street and um so I think that's a good thing too and keeping business in Chesa is important. I think that's something um at least I know I care about um and we've uh talked about. So, uh yeah, I think it makes sense and I appreciate the effort into um you know, really getting some good photos. I appreciated, you know, the tape measure photos to really give us a good view um and everything. So, yeah, I think uh landscaping will play into it, but um it's nice that this the outdoor storage will be shielded by the building and that thankfully the building and the um what's around it will help shield as well. So, >> and I do just want to commend you wanting to stay in Jesus. That's huge. I mean the fact that you service all around us and you want to stay here and you provide jobs here I presume and all that is is you know while there's a precedent there's also rewarding people who are bringing jobs and industry to our city. If I understood correctly, because I see the gentleman with the hat that matches the other company, that's a new business coming in, Jaser. >> My Crimson Copper Plumbing. Uh we're out of Wakonia. We've been there eight years and we're looking to move to Jaza. >> Nice. Good choice. Just >> kidding. We think >> she's hammering on me because I have a business in Wakonia. So >> Wakonia is a good town, too. >> That's right. >> And cheerlead for you, too. So, >> well, welcome as well. I appreciate it. >> Uh, just out of curiosity, the proposed second building. >> Yeah. >> When when Yeah. Come on. Yeah. Come on up. Come on down. When When the What's the plan? What's >> Mike and I are are partners in this building project. Um, as of right now, I know they had said as many as six tenants. In all reality, we are hoping probably five at the max, but mo most likely it's going to be three or four. >> Okay. >> Um Mike is going to occupy somewhere around 30 to 50% of the building. I'm going to occupy somewhere around 30 to 50% of the building. And we are hoping one other tenant will occupy the rest. >> Okay. >> Ultimately, Mike doesn't particularly need retail space. >> Uh he loves the idea of having 41 frontage. Yeah, the signage is important. Yeah, >> but that 9,000 square foot future building is really probably going to be his future building. >> Okay. >> Right. So, he right now you have six plumbers, >> right? >> Right. So, right now Mike has six plumbers. He's looking to continue growing his business. >> Sure. >> He really needs open warehouse space with maybe a couple of offices in a in a a conference room type of thing. >> Okay. So that 9,000 square foot space hopefully would be we either between my business and and I believe the other business we have coming in. We absorb his space or we're getting to that point. Yep. >> So then we can build the future building and Michael move. >> Kick him out. >> Well, not kick him out, but um and that that would be the hope. And then our hope is that this is our first building project together, right? So, >> um I I would foresee in the future, >> I believe in the next 10 years, Southwest will probably control 2/3 if not the whole front building. >> Okay. >> Um we foresee growth to be able to do that. Um and then Mike would be in the 9,000 foot building in the back. And then uh we see a lot of opportunity with um especially small business growth in the area >> where they are lacking uh we were hoping to have enough space to do a little bit more uh incubator work uh out of this building. We're hoping to do some uh where small business incubator kind of help other especially working with your hands type businesses get off the ground. Um and we hope to work towards that. >> Sure. >> So, >> okay. Well, that's wonderful. Yeah. Thank you for expanding on that for me. I was curious like you know the future in that regard and I think I'll echo the same statements that council member Gra and Hatfield had said in regards to just you know the and also council member Chevlin the fencing to kind of screen and shield. It's really well done. Um we do we're always really careful. It's not anything personal or anything, but any decision that we make up here is obviously it's a big decision that kind of sets a precedent for anything else that kind of comes before us. So, we have to be very diligent and thoughtful about what we, you know, are discussing and what we're setting forward because guarantee you somebody will come forward with that and we just want to make sure that we're kind of checking all those boxes. So, I think as those conversations continue, I think it was really well said up here. And uh I just also would like to just to say thank you for your continued um desire to be in a business in Chaza and and to invest in Chaza as a property owner and also, you know, grow your business here and grow jobs and grow industry here. And then I do I am thankful for you to move over to Chaza. I even though I know I um I understand that that takes a lot of work and effort and then obviously you have future plans to be um to grow your business as well and I I'm all about business. So >> like a great spot to grow the company and that's what that second building is about. Craig and I are both growing our businesses and as soon as we can we're going to build that. >> Yeah. So that's wonderful. It's great to hear those plans. So thank you guys. You could potentially have some office space above on the second story if you're interested. >> I'm photography and plumbing. >> I'm okay on the corner by your hands. >> It was It is work with your hands. >> Oh boy. >> Appreciate that. Um Yes. >> If you've never been to Southwest Rental, they're they're my favorite business in town. You can get anything. Well, I >> absolutely anything you can get at their business. >> Really? >> It was like something that I'd go in there and probably bring something home that I shouldn't bring home. The >> good thing is you take it out and then you get to bring it back. >> Yeah, it's very true. You get to try it before you buy it sort of thing. >> So, I could dig in my own swimming pool on a city lot here in the word mini excavator just really like sign me up. >> Dig me a pool now. >> So, um no, I mean this is this is great. These are these are fun. These are fun things when they come before us. So, uh, any other discussion or questions? Otherwise, I'd entertain a motion um, for approval or to to adopt resolution number 74 approving the concept plan for PB business center at 4200 PV Road. Motion to approve. >> All right. Motion from council member Chevlin. >> Second. and a second from uh Council Member Bennish. Uh any other discussion? All right. All those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. >> Motion carries. >> Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Thanks for sticking it out. >> All right. So, that moves us along to the most entertaining portion of the night, the bills. Does anybody have a question on a bill they're itching to ask? No. All right. Well, with that, I would entertain a motion to approve these bills. >> Motion to approve the bills. >> All right. We have a motion from Council Member Hatfield. >> And a second from the mayor. All right. Uh, roll or any other discussion otherwise. Roll call, please. >> Council member Hatfield. >> Yes. >> Council member Bennish. >> Yes. >> Council member Shlinin. >> Yes. >> Council McGra. >> I. Mayor Hover. Yes. >> I was like, "Wow, >> maybe we do have to have some discussion." I was wondering next. I'm like, "Wait a minute." She She skips me. Um, okay. Well, that leads us into the second most entertaining portion of the night, the uh the round table discussion here. Um, Council Member Hatfield, start us off. >> Sure. Here I am back with your events. Put them on your calendar. First up, trickor treat all day on Saturday. You start in the morning in the common chest commons and then you can go downtown and trickor treat 2 to 5 and then the jambbury at the community center at 6. So literally um you know the downtown business lines mentioned it earlier, but there's over 20 businesses participating in the downtown trick-or-treating and it really is one of my favorite days because there's just like a really cool energy. Everyone's got their kids down there and this year you can sip while you do it which does sound extra fun. Um so that's happening and then some um some of the things coming up for downtown. Deer weekend is 118. All the shops are um you know doing fun things for those usually and it's just it's another weekend that has a lot of really fun energy downtown. Um so you can come eat and hang out. You know we talked about the service based businesses. You can get adjusted at the chiropractor, get a haircut, and then go shopping. That sounds like a great Saturday to me. Um, the fireman tree lighting is 11:23. Small business Saturday is the 29th of November. And then hometown hometown holiday is 12:6. So, those are all a lot of fun things happening downtown. And you can sip something while you do all those Saturdays. So, highly recommend. Um, some other things happening this week on Wednesday. I'm very excited about this pizza with a cop at Redbench. >> Um, so that's in the evening. So if you've been really bummed that you couldn't go because you have a 9 toive job. Um, you no excuses. Now you can. So red bench 5:00 p.m. go have some pizza, hang out with the cops. Um, for a good reason. That's always the best plan to do. >> Not that we don't want to hang out with you otherwise. >> I just meant like don't get, you know, just go have pizza. Don't you don't need to get arrested to hang out with them. Um and then uh Katrina Fest is also um coming up. That's this Friday. >> Friday. Yes. 6:00 to 8:30. So that's always a really fun event, too. Really high energy, really, really cool. Like if you haven't done it before, go down because the it's just a really cool event um to see everyone dressed up and all the things they do for that event. So um those are the that's your schedule of events that I just gave you there. Um, the other thing I was just going to mention, I saw the historical structures and signage up downtown and they're really, really cool. So, if you haven't >> take a tour, >> like go read those, see them. I know like staff in the historical society put in a lot of effort into those and um it's just really cool to see that they're up and it just really like felt like it completed some of those PO areas. Um, and I'm excited now because I think at least for a bit here, I won't have to worry about crashing my car when I see a new thing downtown and get really excited. So, especially because the first one I saw >> a really good thing. >> Well, what happened when the little lights went up on the poos, I almost crashed my car noticing those and then this these went up and I almost crashed my car again because it was on 41 and looking at and looking to the right and you definitely should look forward. >> I always do like a Wait a minute. Was that there before? >> Did I miss that? How long has that been there for? So grateful to hear that it was. >> Yeah, they look really nice. >> It's right away. >> Yeah, I think it was um really a labor of love to get those done. So >> beautiful. >> That's Yeah, >> like >> I know one person. Yes. Um >> Kevin >> and yeah, so a lot of work went into those. So it was really really exciting to see those up. So when you go trick-or-treat downtown, you can go look at those as well. >> Yeah. learn learn about the history of Chesa. >> Yeah, I it was really fun. I'm very excited. I haven't got to like stop and look at them yet, but um my step grandma's on one of them and I'm really excited to go see that. >> And yeah, it's just uh they're very cool. You can read a lot about all the history and they um for the most part where you read about them are is like it's >> Yes. It's relevant to where you're standing. So um >> Oh, that's cool. >> Yeah. >> Very cool. So, that was um all I had. >> Great. Great report. Awesome. All right, moving along down the line. >> Have anything? >> No report. >> No report. >> All right, we're going to skip me and we're going to move over to you. >> Um the only thing I would say is last week because of many different things. I had my puppy groomed at Furball and because there was a bubble tea spot next door, got a bubble tea and I needed a car battery. So, I went over to O'Reilly and got a car battery and then while I was waiting for the dog, went to the dive spot. And so, I think we talk a lot about downtown and we focus here, but there are some great businesses on the other end of downtown. And that's not to say that there aren't more that I didn't mention, but that I just hit in a week. Um, and I I would encourage people just to also go to that end of downtown and uh visit those businesses because there's some interesting stuff going on down there. >> Did you have a corn dog at Bubble? >> I did. Th those cheese >> those cheese dogs are like like So if you haven't had a cheese dog and bubble tea from >> I don't it's called bubble time. >> Bubble time. >> It's amazing. And then if you go around the corner the dive spot has some really interesting little finds and I think the plants are really cute. They sell plants in like thrifted pots I guess. But anyway, very cool. Um and they sell everything from clothing to you know knickknacks and whatever. They were featured on the news or they were long live or something I saw. Yeah. >> Yeah. And like I said, the guys at O'Reilly super helpful. Got the battery in. The people at Furball are couldn't be nicer to my old dog and my new puppy. So, I was very impressed and just thought we should give those businesses down there a shout out as well. >> Great. Wonderful. >> All right, moving along. >> I'm full of questions just to go in after a little bit. So, boy, >> um, >> botting tour is this Thursday, >> correct? Okay. Because in here it says next Thursday. So I'm trying to figure out how to read that. >> That's because they wrote it on Friday, >> right? That's why Thursday 2:30 to 3:10. >> Y >> um >> why don't you talk? I think it's good for people to understand that. Maybe I'll ask you a little. >> So get it on record. >> So uh few weeks ago we had the Senate Capital Investment Committee come. Uh they took a tour of City Square West project. We have a bonding request into them. Uh we also have a bonding request into the House of Representatives capital investment committee. So they're coming to do a tour of City Square West. Uh but we also have sort of a secondary uh request and for bonding for the sewer extension into our new industrial park. Uh so uh if you notice, they're actually going to be here for I mean 40 minutes doesn't seem like a long time, but that's a long stop for for >> especially because like what the Senate was here for like 15 minutes. >> Yeah. 15 minutes. We we have like 40 minutes and so it's given us an opportunity to talk about the >> uh requesting dollars for the sewer extension uh going down into our industrial park which would be a huge boost for that development out there. So um basically it's it's uh you know it's the first step in being able to be considered for for dollars is making a tour. And if you make a tour, it makes it a lot easier now because these people have seen this uh to be able to be considered and and be called in for a hearing during the legislative session itself, but it's basically them preparing themselves for the legislative session. >> Perfect. Thank you. My second question, putting the mayor on the spot here, Southwest Metro Chamber of Commerce mayor's lunchon. >> Yeah. If I read this correctly and nor has anyone been asked, are you speaking at that? Because typically that's been a conflict. >> I know, but it is not this year. It is on a Tuesday. >> Okay. >> And >> that's good cuz I think I was next in line to have to give that speech just for the record. >> Yes, you are off the hook. Although I was >> Are you driving the >> No, I Well, you are, but I I thought you would throw it back at me because I made you do >> No, I love talking. I don't know if you noticed. >> So, right. >> Yeah. Yeah. No. Um, we actually sta I met with staff today to talk about kind of an outline of the state of the city and we talked about as part of that actually. So this, you know, the the mayor lunchon is a chamber event. It's kind of really geared as far as uh attendance towards our businesses, which is great and they need to be in the know, but we also residents need to be in the know. And so we're going to really look at having an opportunity in January where we give the state of the city for the residents and we bring everybody into the fold with it. So >> cool. >> So yeah. So Nate, get your uh get your microphone out. >> You can use the handhold microphone. >> Yeah. Where's tour guiding? You do the same thing. No. >> Test test. we kind of talked about some ideas to kind of bring people into the into the um event and then just um and have this be a part of it. So, more to come. >> Okay, my last question. Obviously, upcoming events can't always be fully encompassing what's coming up. Is there a plan to do a Santa parade because I do not see that on >> Yes. Okay. I was just >> Yeah, we haven't we haven't exactly chose the date yet, but typically we try to do it the same. uh evening that the kids get out of school. >> Okay. >> So, and I think that's been like December 22nd. >> Late. >> Yeah. They're all excited. They stay up late. >> Get them all sugar high and Yeah. >> But yeah, we we try to aim for that last day of school. >> Perfect. That makes sense. And then lastly, because we will not have another meeting in October, uh there'll be lots of tricks or cheaters as we talked about next weekend and Halloween the following weekend. So, drive safe. You know, I always think of, man, I look back at some of the Halloween costumes and the masks like those my plastic Teenage Mutant Turtle Mutant Turtle mask that I wore like had zero visibility. You're like, how did you know? Thankfully, I was in a small town. We had maybe two cars coming down our street. But, uh, I think it goes both for people tricks treating, be visible, be smart, candy is exciting, but make good safe choices when you're crossing streets, as well as driving, right? I know uh I think especially in in neighborhoods that maybe have a lot of younger families that trick-or-treating can start early and so you may be like coming home from uh work and >> don't race into your neighborhood at 5:00. >> So be safe. Uh and uh have fun. Uh and it doesn't look like there will be a snowstorm at this point. So just >> Oh my gosh. Why did you even say that? >> I just had to say it. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait. Show of hands. Who was here for the Halloween blizzard? >> I think I had the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. I wasn't in Chaska. Sorry. I was here. I was alive. >> No, but like in Minnesota. >> So, yes, >> we all have our story. >> Holly and my Teenage Mut Ninja Turtle plastic bag. >> Yeah, probably. >> Um, I think I was a mic. >> We went to two houses and they dumped their entire bowl into the bag. So, you were done after two houses. >> All right, those are all my questions that you successfully passed the quiz. So, I appreciate it. That's all I have. >> Great. Great report. All right. Uh, Elise, nothing. Nate, >> I don't have anything to add. >> What about you on the back? Got anything? Oh, come on. >> We were expecting some good report. >> Coffee with a coffee. >> Coffee with a cop. >> Pizza. [Laughter] >> Kristoff, got anything? >> You know, today I'll just say that um I'm very pleased to see the uh the Comcast pole attachment agreement got adopted in the consent agenda. It's been something that that Andrew and I have been working on for quite some time. Um I'll say goodbye to it as Maybe I'll leave a an a blank space on my >> gonna go visit the pole like and tie a ribbon around it or something. >> Excited about really small things. >> Well, that little small thing is probably taking up a lot of it. >> I was going to say it probably was not small to Kristoff. >> I Yeah, I take it back. That's It was not being very sensitive. >> That is great to hear your perspective on that though. We thank you for all the hard work you put in as well. >> What about you, Matt? I think I have to apologize to him now. So, >> how about you disrespect? We're getting a live on air apology like >> uh No, the only thing I'll uh add is uh this next week I will be uh Monday through Wednesday at the International City County Managers Association's conference. So, uh if anybody has anything during that time, you can talk to the lease. So, >> what can go wrong? >> Yeah. >> No, no. What can we set up a lease for promotion for by >> uh wonderful well um just I have a couple things that were not hit. Um there's a highway 4110 ribbon cutting that the county is putting on next Tuesday the 28th at one o'clock. I think it's over at um Shepherd of the Hill Church over there. uh yard waste. We So, two things with yard waste. One, uh this whole entire month, you as a Chaza resident have been able to take your yard waste to the Dakota Prairie >> composting >> composting site that's just um south of here uh off of uh 41 um for free. But if you are nostalgic and want to go down to Athletic Park, we do have a yard waste uh day, it is on Saturday >> 25th. >> The 25th. Uh so this Saturday uh what's the times? Because I didn't write that down. >> 8 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. >> So 8 am to 2 pm. So plenty of opportunity whether you can make that Saturday and just drop it off in town or um you know before the end of the month get over to the uh Dakota um compost uh recycling. >> I can't remember if I mentioned this at the last meeting or not, but staff is in discussions with Cara County now uh about looking at because we get a grant each year to do the the yardways cleanup days that we do in the spring and the fall. And if we can start looking at partnering with at least the four cities sort of around us uh to um you know at the very least have May and October going forward in the future as being free for residents down at that Dakota facility. Um because >> I'm sure you have other communities that would be very interesting. Well, the the biggest biggest complaint we get about our cleanup day is that, you know, well, the leaves didn't fall that weekend. They fell three weeks ago or, you know, they haven't fallen yet, so what if they haven't fallen yet? So, >> um, pull them off the tree. >> It just to me, I think it'd be a lot more user friendly uh to people to be able to do it at their own leisure. Uh, so we haven't come up with anything finalized yet, but that is a discussion that we're having right now. >> That's wonderful. Yeah, I know that there's some folks that like uh have plans at Saturday and so it's kind of frustrating when they aren't able to utilize those services and they're understand you know it's understandable in that regard but they're also understanding that the you know staffing and everything like that to to facilitate that. Well, and that's a, you know, I grew up in a town where you went to a police department and got a key to get into a dump site where you could go dump your leaves and stuff like that. I mean, that used to be the way cities did it. But now with all the restrictions that there are for of what you can put in your garbage, >> it is amazing if you don't staff these things what ends up in those piles and it becomes very expensive to get rid of it. And so, uh, that's why it really is restricted to two days is because of just the cost of staffing. But if we could sort of shift that, you know, you know, over to a place that's staffed anyway. Yep. >> Um, it just makes it easier to offer that. >> Absolutely. >> A mayor, can I jump in for a second? The actual date is November 1st. Saturday, November. >> Oh, I screwed up. >> See, I thought I thought that was wrong, but I was like, >> it's always in October, but I guess not this year. But there's no trick-or-treating that whole day as Michael just pointed out. >> Christa, let us know. >> Thank you, Christa. Yes. Okay. So, we have a correction. November 1st is our Chaza Yard Waste uh day at Athletic Park from >> 8 to 2. I got that part right. >> 8 to 2. 8 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. All right. >> He's not convinced of that. >> Not convinced. Go look it up online. I'm sure we got it somewhere on our website. >> I'm thankful for the correction that was made. I think it just demonstrates the good hands we'll be in when Matt is away. >> I Yeah, that's very true. Well spoken. >> True. Thanks. >> Um, two other things. One, and I'm going to completely I can never I can never pronounce this correctly, but I always am trying. Um, so if uh if you're up at the community center, there was an affenda set up from um Latino Voices and also our human rights commission for Diaz Delo Mortz >> Muertos. >> MTOS. Thank you. I >> I can't I just I I try so hard. I want to get it right. >> Watch some more Coco. It's great. >> Um I know. And that is an excellent movie. Um which describes that very very well. Uh it's through November 9th. So it's such a great thing to see. I recommend everybody go visit. Um so >> you can't miss it either. It's like right when >> Yeah. It's like kind of right as you come in the gallery part like uh of the the community center. So, um, and our next meeting is on November >> 3rd. November 3rd. Yeah. >> Yes. >> And then that's it. That's all for me. >> Well, maybe we should also just brag for a minute and talk about how we were on the top 100 best small cities to live in in America list. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Wallet Hub, right? Yeah, we're on the top 100 best cities. I mean, was there ever >> and wasn't best small? Um, yeah, I was reached out to by, you know, our local nonprofit newspaper outlet for a quote and I thought, well, this is a fun fact, but I didn't want to like share the secret right away. I figured I'd wait for the article to come out and very nice. And so, yeah, I mean, there's no doubt we're amazing. We're the best. All right. Well, with that, I'd entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> All right. Motion from council member Hatfield and second from council member Grath. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. We are adjourned. >> We have an meeting. >> Wow. I hit that hard, didn't I? >> Oh, we do have an EDA meeting. >> Forgot about that. Sorry. >> All right, we're going to go right into it then. Let me get there. All right. And then Christa, are you ready for me? >> Okay. All right. I call this meeting of the CHASA Economic Development Authority to order. Um, roll call, please. >> Commissioner Hatfield, >> here. >> Commissioner Benes, >> here. >> Commissioner Chevlin, >> here. >> Commissioner GR >> here. >> President Harvard, >> here. All right, that moves us along to adop adopting the agenda. Does anybody have any additions or corrections on the agenda? >> Otherwise, I'd entertain a motion to adopt. >> Motion to adopt agenda. All right. Motion from Commissioner Hatfield. >> Second. >> Second from Commissioner Benes. All those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. >> Agenda is adopted. All right. Let's move along to the approval of the previous meeting minutes. These meeting minutes were from September 29th, 2025. Does anybody have any additions or corrections on the minutes? All right. Otherwise, I entertain a motion for approval of meeting minutes. >> Motion to approve the previous meeting minutes. >> All right. Motion from council or commission member Benes. >> Second. >> Second from commission member uh Chevlin. Sorry. >> Trying to remember titles and names. Titles and names. All right. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I. >> I. Opposed. >> All right. And then this moves us along to the um uh action item tonight. The discussion item I should say, the amended land donation agreement. >> I'll let Elise take this one. Uh, President Howard and commissioners, back in February, you approved a land donation agreement. This is for that quarter acre parcel that's between the old Cooper's grocery store and the EDAowned parcel to the south. At that time, it was not subdivided. It was all part of the grocery store parcel. Um, as we had worked with the Klein family, um, as they prepared to sell to the Gorches, they were interested in kind of cutting off this triangular section and donating it to the city. This allows us to square off that property. We talked about it at the last work session about the opportunities for redevelopment in the area and whatnot. Um, since February, we've been able to finalize that land donation agreement. And most of the time if it's small changes, we wouldn't necessarily bring it back to you because of the administrative approvals that we can do. However, there were some um changes that we thought warranted bringing it back to you this evening. So um kind of the major pieces is that that actual description of the land being donated has been added because that parcel has now been split off and recorded at Carver County. Um the donation will occur prior to the end of the year. Um, we were trying to get it all done before the end of the month. That likely won't happen, but it'll probably be early November. Uh, the donor will pay all taxes for 2025. Even though we're receiving some of it prior to the end of the year, they'll take care of all that. Probably the biggest piece that is different from what you saw before. We um, as a city will be respon or we as the EDA will be responsible for all costs. So, that title insurance commitment, the closing cost, and the deax, it's about $1,000 plus or minus in there. So, that that's slightly different. Um, so we're recommending you approve the amended land donation agreement. >> Wonderful. Um, all right. Does anybody have any any questions on agreement? >> No motion to approve the amended land donation agreement. >> Wonderful. We have a motion from Commission um Commissioner Tatfield. >> Second. >> Have a second from Commissioner Benish. All those in favor or any other discussion. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. I. >> Opposed. >> All right. Motion carries. All right. So that uh moves us along to other business. Anybody have any like talk about? >> I will hold this. No, I'm kidding. Wow. Okay. All right. Well, then I'd entertain a motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. >> All right. Motion from Commissioner uh Chevlin. >> Second from Commissioner Gro. Good job getting your name on there. I agree. All right. All those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. You're >> all right. Thank you. Yeah, that's what I was reading.