get our whole thing though. I used to never get all of us. Good. Good evening everyone. Um, calling the Chaza City Council meeting for Monday, April 21st, 2025 to order at 7 o'clock. Can everyone please rise for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Um so okay uh Nate would you be so kind as to call roll? Yes. Council member Hatfield. Council member Venish here. Council member Chevlin here. Council member G here. Mayor Hubard here. All right, moving along. Uh the next thing is to adopt the agenda. Do I have any additions or corrections on the agenda before I can entertain a motion to adopt the agenda? Motion to adopt agenda. Okay, we have a motion by council member Hatfield. Second. Second by council member Benes. Uh all those in favor say I. I opposed. All right. Agend agenda is adopted. Uh next is visitor presentation. So uh if anybody's here for a uh to talk to the council about anything that's not on the agenda, please feel free to come forward. You'll just have to state your name and address for the record. Um come on down. You're you're the winner. Well, good evening. Uh, I just want to thank the city of Chesa for helping us do the things that we do. As you recall, you made some money available to us to uh revamp our boat. So, I can report the boat's in the shop. It's been stripped down to the deck. And now, of course, we're waiting for this flooring to come in. So, we have no idea how long it's going to be, but thank you very much. Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. Thank you so much for for coming up. We appreciate hearing the update, and we look forward to when that boat is done. Um, okay. Next on the visitor presentation, I have a Southwest Community Park master plan update from Mr. Marshall. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um, just give me one second here. I'm going to pull up a presentation to Sure. Thank you. walk us through. Looks like we're finishing with the end. I'll I'll start us from the beginning. Well, we do have questions. What's What's Start right out the gate? Yeah. Um, it show there we go. Which house is yours? He said he would. All right. Happy to come before you tonight and share another update on the um future of the Southwest Chesa Park um and go through uh some slides here. So over the last month and a half, uh, staff have been really busy going through what I would say is like phase one of our community engagement process and the majority of things that occurred throughout that this phase are listed there. Um, it really kicked off back on Friday night of March 7th with our um, carnival event at the community center. Uh we had um a whole presentation of boards that were interactive for families to um engage um by putting dots up on things that looked interesting to them. Um it was also an opportunity for us to talk with the parents, mention um information about the project website that uh was available and encourage people um to go online. Um, and that was really kind of the next part of it was putting up the specific project website for the park. Um, once that became available, we really, um, promoted that far and wide. Um, put it up on our various city web pages, got it out on social media, sent it out through a variety of our different um, list membership list serves. um emailed out to various groups such as like athletic associations um things of that nature. And you'll see in later slides um that we had really good engagement on that project website. It it's meant to be um informative and interactive. Um gives a little bit of context about the park and the site. Um, and then on it was an online survey for people to take along with an idea board. And that was where people could submit photos and videos or just text that would uh showcase different ideas that they're thinking about. And it was kind of fun because people could then go in and like or dislike them, too. So, it was, you know, pretty interactive in in that sense. And we'll I liked the idea board. I liked that it was accessible. You didn't have to sign in. That was like so nice. You could just be yourself, right? You could be anonymous. Yeah. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah. Um and then we uh conducted a variety of focus group meetings um seven of seven of them to be exact, which I'll um go through um along with a market study. So, jumping right in, um the online survey, we had a phenomenal response. Um, we had over 3,000 unique visitors go to the site and over 1,400 people take the survey. Um, so phenomenal that our consultant group, Confluence, has said this is the most they've actually seen on any other project they've worked on. So, big kudos to the staff, but I would say even more importantly, big kudos to the community um for taking the time and um going in and taking the survey. You can see it hit um right out the gate that very first week is where we saw the big uptick. Um it kind of leveled off and then we did another push right before the deadline and you can see there was another another tick up there at the very end. Um here we're showing uh the makeup of who took the survey. We asked the question where where do you reside? Um you can see um a little over 70% represented Chaza and then there was some others um from the um bordering communities um which is what I would expect. Um I don't have slides on these other things but just to point out some of the other demographics um as it relates to who took the survey. So in terms of age, individuals under the age of 34 made up 21% of the survey. uh individuals 35 to 54 years old was 68% and then those 55 plus uh made up 11% of the survey. Um when asking about the number of people that live in your household, um 80% of respondents would have three or more people within their household. So, kind of what you would imagine, a lot of a lot of families um that took the survey. Um in terms of ethnicity, it was predominantly white. However, we did have representation from all of the different ethnicity groups um respond to the survey. And then as far as household income, the majority were above 100,000 per year. However, we also did have representation amongst all the um groups below that um within the survey. So overall, I think a great representation of our community um took the survey. Um so jumping into some of the highlights. So here's a question where we asked you know which park trends should be considered um as part of this future park. And you can see the things that jump out would be um splash and and spray pads, nature trails, um sort of this enhanced food concessions, food truck type of option, um along with health and wellness and and pickle ball um rose to the top there. um when asking a question about what types of amenities should be featured within a park shelter building. Um just sort of thinking beyond our typical um shelters that we have in Chaza. Um you can see overwhelmingly people um desire yearround restrooms um compared to summer only. Um there's this notion of maybe a winter warming house which I think kind of goes along with indoor space. Obviously we we need indoor space for that. And then um that covered open air shelter. So that stands out, you know, as people wanting shade and a place to uh have like a picnic underneath it. Um so interesting feedback for us to consider there. Um we're also really thinking about how we activate this park year round and thinking about winter. So we asked a specific question about what would encourage people to visit it um throughout the winter. And you can see um sledding um along with um ice skating or an ice trail um were the highlights there. The good news is we got some good slope in this park. So it really lends itself um to to to have a a sledding hill. Um you know an outdoor hockey is in there too. I think that would relate to the the ice skating as well. Um, next up, what this slide is representing is the survey then really went through and it what we're really trying to do is kind of start at a high level and understand what what are the themes that are the priority um that that people envision in this park and there was there was the ranking of high priority, priority um low priority or not needed. And so what this is slide is representing in the blue there would be the the percentage of ranking on high priority per theme and then in addition to the the priority. So for example on the very bottom there you can see play um you know 55% viewed play as a high priority. And then if you add on the priority, it took it took it to like 83 84%. Um so if we factor those two together, you know, really the three themes that jumped out were play, sport, and nature with a move in water um close behind. So then after that, what was sort of an interesting question was after after individuals thought about each theme individually, we asked a question with all the themes together and how they would rank them um kind of in in in priority rescue. And you can see it's pretty similar um but a little bit different because it's based on the average from low prior priority all the way up through high priority. Um so you can see play nature and sport are still you know some top things. The gathering sort of moved up within this averaging um type of question um compared to how it got viewed as an individual question. Um, so it's sort of interesting to see the difference there. And here's some um some scattering of the different ideas that came through on the idea board. Um, which was fun to see because, you know, this is really that that sort of stage where people can dream a little bit and and think outside the box. Um, so we had things from, you know, skate parks to ice skating ribbons, splash pad, water park. Yes. Um, camper cabins, a park-based restaurant, um, thinking about, you know, this notion of remembering what came before the park, um, a dog park with water access. So really kind of the whole gamut of things come through on the idea board. So was there one thing on the idea board that got like the most likes? I don't even know. You maybe don't know have that data, but yeah, I don't have that data in front of me. Um yeah, whoever put that pool in there did a fantastic I think what it I think what it showed me is just there's a variety there's a variety of interest um that people are are thinking about, you know, within this park, you know, and a big part of that online survey and this idea board is really just activating our community and letting them know that this project is coming and getting them engaged. Um, because there's going to be more opportunities for engagement as we go through the planning process. Um, here's the variety of focus group meetings that we conducted. Um so we met with all the athletic associations. Um we met with a group of individuals um you know that um families that have um people with disabilities. Uh we met with the active older adults within the lodge at the community center. Um we met with the parks and recreation staff along with public works um park maintenance staff. Chaza Rotary and Lions, uh the school district leadership, and then we had a meeting with um the residents who live within a half a mile of the future park. Um the objective of those meetings was really again to um talk about the project, talk about the the planning process, um create some context around it and then really just start having some discussion and and getting some ideas um from them for for us to consider. Um and then to also encourage them to take that online survey and tell other people um and and to sort of um be those stakeholder groups to follow along as we go throughout this process. For some of the groups, um what I'm showing here is we we did what was called a mentter survey. So, if you're not familiar, it's it's sort of a survey that you take on your cell phone and it's live that we just did with the group on the spot. Um, so the first slide here is with um a meeting we had with the parks and recreation commission and all of these are just comparing the groups that we did this with and how they ranked those themes again. So just trying to see is there any major difference between any particular group compared to the larger um community and how it came through on the online survey. So you can see with the parks and recreation commission um play nature move and sport came through as the top themes. Um and then with Rotary um they've got sport, nature and play um coming out on the top. And then um with the staff group along with park maintenance, play, move, nature and sport came through as the top themes. And then with the neighborhood meeting, nature, move, play, and sport. So, you're starting to see generally some consistency around what I would say play, nature, and sport really kind of being the the top three. Um, you know, with kind of this idea of move and gathering and water um close behind. Well, and I think remember one of the opportunities we have with this park is we have 55 acres that's open. So that's just stuff that we'll develop. But you know, we have how many acres do you think the woods are? About 40 acres of big woods. Um we'll be able to preserve about well much of it is preserved by ordinance and things. Um but it'll continue to be owned by the family who owns it at least for the time being. Um but we have about 10 acres of it that is usable right not what it's steep slopes that we will be preserving through the development process with fourstar. Yeah. So there's a real opportunity to have nature-based programming that we really haven't had as much before. Not that we haven't had anything but that'll be a specific place that we can have it. You know eventually there's going to be a school next to it. So there can, you know, when we've talked with the school uh through this, they've talked about their excitement about the nature-based programming that they can do being next to the big woods like that. So it's it's a a unique site. Um and then as part of this initial phase, like I mentioned, we did a market study um and we worked with Pros Consulting um for this um which they're a national consulting group that um focuses on parks and recreation um agencies. And what this slide is depicting is that shaded area represents um those that would live live within a 15mi drive from the future park um which essentially makes up the service area for this park. And the market study was really evaluating the different um park amenities that are available throughout this um 15minute service area. But then it also looked um specifically at um Chaza's um park system and um was evaluating uh the amenities within our system and comparing them to the um National Park and Recreations benchmark um for kind of best practices and it's based on population. So, it was based on communities between 20 to 49,000 people. Um, we're still fleshing out some of the specific numbers. Um, however, I can share with you that um, essentially we meet or exceed pretty much every single um, benchmark there is. And that's sort of to be expected, especially in Minnesota. Minnesota on a national level um typically is regarded to have some of the best park systems in the nation. Um it's why we often rank highest in he in healthiness and happiness and things of that nature. Um our real our real intent in conducting this market study was to evaluate whether or not there were any significant gaps. um because if there were if there were we would want to account for that um within this future park. Um there's some areas where I would say maybe we're a little lower on um rectangular fields um being one of them. Um but beyond that um we predominantly are are exceeding everything. So the great news is with this future park, we can just further enhance our system here in Chesca. Um, and I think it also presents the opportunity um to potentially incorporate some different things and and um differentiate um compared to some of our other parks. Um, as Matt mentioned, the nature component um would be an example. Um just to highlight some other planning activities um that has occurred over this last month. So back on Friday night of April 5th um other staff members Ashley and Aaron and I were able to go to the Confluence office at their Minneapolis site in northeast Minneapolis that weekend. They happen to have um a companywide team event. Um they've got nine offices across the Midwest. So all of their landscape architects were in Minneapolis for that weekend. And on that Friday night, as part of a team exercise, they broke into 10 different groups and did a design chet on our park. Oh, cool. Um, so it was a pretty cool exercise to observe and watch and we sort of hit the ground running with some ideas. Um, those concepts we plan to have posted at our upcoming Park Palooa event which I'll be talking about. Um, keep in mind, you know, they didn't have a ton of context on the site. The the main objective was just a team exercise. Um, but it was pretty neat to see um these professionals come together and and within an hour and a half come up with 10 different unique ideas um for us to consider. Um and then back on April 10th um some staff along with some um park and recck commissioners um went out and toured um some parks um throughout the southern metro area. And then we intend to do the same um this coming Thursday um focusing more on the the north metro. Um the idea there is to get out and see some different things and and get some ideas flowing. And then all of this is kind of the buildup to come to the next phase which is this Parka Palooa event that we're hosting on on Thursday, May 8th at the Chaza Community Center within the Brick City Banquet Room. And so here the um the landscape architects from Confluence will be there um from their Minneapolis office. I believe they're inviting some of their architects from their de mo office to be with with us that day as well. Um but the task here on that day will be to start to develop three different concepts um that all represent the feedback that we've received um throughout the community engagement process. Um so they're going to get a kind of a head start throughout the morning and then um during the afternoon we've got staff coming in sort of at different scheduled times um from all of the different city departments to stop in be a part of it um share some ideas share some information um to help shape these concepts. And then at 5:30, we've invited city council and the parks and recreation commission to come in. And that's really our chance to display what we did through the day um and get your thoughts and um um showcase uh the different ideas that came through and you know get your feedback on whether or not you think it's hitting the mark with what the community is saying. um because what we come up with at the end of that day isn't necessarily the end- all beall. Um there'll be some future refinement afterwards. So after that event, um based on that feedback you provide us, um they'll go back and refine those concepts. They also just put a little bit more detail into them. They label it more. really it's getting them um more prepared to then put back out to the public. Um they'll conduct a high level cost estimation for us across those three concepts. You know, before we put it out to the public, we want to know that we can we can actually build it. Um and it's high level. So it'll be a range. um we won't have the detail to really get, you know, to really kind of fine-tune the estimation, but um give us a good sense of what they would cost. Um from there, we'll have another round of review with staff just to make sure we're all feeling comfortable with where they're at. And then that'll once we get through that, it'll kick off the next round of engagement. So, those three concepts will go back onto the project website. The project website will be very engaging. Um, folks will be able to go in and literally zoom in on the park concept and and create pinpoints on it and then leave comments and then similar to the idea board, other people can weigh in and such on that comment. Um, so we'll uh we'll communicate that out again far and wide to let everybody know that the concepts are available on the project website. Um, encourage people to to provide their feedback. And then we'll also have physical versions of the concepts that we'll bring out to our large community events, Fire and Ice and River City Days. Um, and those will be situated to be very interactive and engaging um, for us to get more feedback. And that is all I have for tonight for an update. Anybody have any questions for Marshall or comments? No questions, but this is obviously very exciting and it's been fun to watch like the idea board like I mentioned and exciting to see the survey results and um whenever I talk to people about this, it's they're always very excited. There's people literally looking to move to Chaza because of this park and the pro potential proximity to this park and um it's just exciting to see it. I'm excited for Parka. So yeah, great work on it. Um, in the north metro, this might be on your list, but if it's not, it should be Gleon Fields in Maple Grove on the list. We're going there. Yeah. I mean, I'm just looking because I've been there for the baseball stuff, but they have pickle ball courts. I mean, and it's got turf, which I will mention. I can't have a conversation about this topic and not mention turf baseball. You should get a turf tattoo. Uh, turf field. Yeah. Um, but I also, the other interesting thing is I'll be go I was there last weekend and I'll be going back this weekend. Uh, and I was curious on size. Uh, Holiday Park in West De Mo is a huge complex 62. So, not quite as we're not quite as big, but you just kind of see when you do a park and it and it's a destination. I mean, there were now that's largely a baseball complex. They have a water aquatics field uh, as well and softball. But I think it's interesting like if you observe the hotel in West De Moine and you do things right, it becomes such a destination. Now, you think 4 hours west of here is not much more tropical than it is in Minnesota, but I mean from soccer going on down in West De Mo to 100 plus baseball teams from Minnesota driving down 35W on Friday. Um, you can really see how it supports the community at large as well, right? You want it to be a community gem for for citizens to use, but have that ability to host things like that and bring people into that community. It's just it's amazing uh watching that number of teams kind of flood down. You know, they have and they interesting enough they don't have turf fields there. Those are all green and it looked much greener than our fields up here. It's it's four hours south which seems so close. Yeah. We're kind of on the if you like with soil and planting, we're kind of on that that categorization, that bend of where you So, I just pointed out because it's just amazing to watch in that area like that springtime. I mean, you you might be in a hotel and say it's soccer, you got soccer, you got softball, you got baseball, and they all come down because they've invested in facilities that can sport those types of things. So, um yeah, I think that's cool. And like I said, I I'll I'll say it again. Turf turf sports are turf fields can be multi-use fields when you use turf. Were you sad that turf wasn't a specific question on the survey? I'm I I know for a fact when they met with the baseball association and I'm guessing it wasn't just the baseball association that mentioned turf. Um but yeah, I just I think you think about the unpredictability of spring in Minnesota. Turf tends to have a lot of advantages. Yeah. And I was going to say um Centennial Lakes in Edina the way they have like the paddle boats and the you know I don't really want to call it putt putt but the putting green and things like that they've really worked into a inner city area some really cool nature type things. Um and then are you going to Clifton French when you go to the north? We're going to Tamarak Nature Center. Yeah. Okay. You should try to hit Clifton French because it's up it's in Plymouth but they have the most unique setup for playground and I have little kids. It's amaz and Highland in Bloomington are the like the old shoots and ladders but it's like that with the nets and the you know but it's like three different levels and there's like these almost like an amphitheater for adults to sit on so you can see all three levels but then there's this I wouldn't call it a warming house. I would actually call it a, you know, a structure that you can, it's heated and has bathrooms where you can go buy food in and it is just, you know, and then they go down to the beach. It's a huge park, too. They have lakefront, but just its play area is so neat. And there are people that we drive from Chaz all the way to Maple Grove just to go there. I mean, it's really a destination. So, when you look at play and stuff, looking at some of those guys who have really taken playgrounds to a new level and made it comfortable for families to sit and spend the day there, it's really, really cool. Yeah. Great. Great job. Yes, it was it was fun to see the response totals. I mean, over 3,000 visitors, over 1,200 took a survey, if I saw this slide correctly, and the fact that 70% of them were from SA Chaza, but you know, 30% I mean, around the community, I mean, a lot of people like are invested in this and engaged in this. And so that's it's so great to see uh the excitement around it. So I look forward to seeing what comes about and being at Parker Pooa like saying the word parkooa fun. Uh and uh I mean it yeah it's exciting. It it we've been talking about this for so long and it just seems surreal surreal that we're here at this point but we're kind of we're in it now. We're walking the We're walking the trail to to make it happen. So, very exciting. And any kind of pool there could be is turf advocate. Pool advocate. Yeah. Mini golf. Well, mini golf. Okay. Like I often say, you know, the community engagement and what what the community is telling us is is certainly a major factor in how we want to proceed with the design of the park, you know, but there's other things that factor in to the end result, right? I mean, obviously, we have a budget, you know, that Yes. Mr. Podski is making me work within. Um, I'm the fun. Um, you know, blanket over there. There's the the site itself, right? I mean, the uniqueness of the site and trying to take advantage of what's there, you know, to maximize Yeah. that budget comes into effect. Um, and then, you know, it's beyond the cost of constructing it. It we got to think about whatever goes in there. what's going to be the cost to maintain it and own it going forward, right? And so, we're not quite at those levels of detail at this point, but over time, those are going to start to kind of um present themselves as we forward. Appreciate that, too, because that that's a big that's a big component. We want to make sure that we're building something that's gonna be nice and be um you know be able to maintain you know for the community that's going to be a draw that people are going to want. So I think the public engagement's been really good but it's also been good because you know we're seeking that you know it's intentional that we want the public to give their ideas and be a part of the process so that they have a stake in that. So, I think that's important. Anybody have anything else for Marshall? Thank you. Great. Thank you, Marshall. You all right, moving right along. Next, we have uh 5B, our communications update. And I I know we have Mr. Kevin Wright here. Yeah, mayor, council member. One of the things I wanted to have Kevin talk about is some of the uh projects that they're working on as you remember and probably can still see with the sticky notes in the back of the room in our retreat. Obviously, communications was a big component uh of that and uh how we reach uh more uh community members with the uh communication we have going out. So, Kevin was going to just touch base on some of the stuff that they're working on. We love a prei. Yeah. You know, I just can't get enough of prei. So, I'm just gonna I'm gonna stick with it. Still learning, still fine-tuning my skills within prei, but um kind of found it to be just a little bit more fun than PowerPoint. Even though if you go on TikTok, there's a lot of good hacks on PowerPoint. So, so just if you're a PowerPoint person, you can get there and and see a lot of cool things and Excel, too. Excel. Um but good evening, mayor and council members. Uh, I'm Kevin Wright, the community engagement manager here at the city. And Christa, who's in the back working the meeting, is also a big part of what we do. Uh, so I don't want to forget her. She's just doing something more important than I am right now and making sure that this meeting is broadcast um in our kind of newish equipment, we'll say, but we'll get to that. Um, so just as a reminder of what we kind of support here within communications and community engagement, obviously all of our strategic visions and goals. Uh, one thing to note, uh, as we kind of roll out the new ones or kind of the redefined visions and goals that we have, um, from the strategic planning session this year, we'll actually be updating these icons as well. So, we've been working with a local company here in Chaza to kind of just create some um engaging icons so we can kind of put them more on the website, use them throughout a lot of the things we do just to kind of continue to uh emphasize the strategic goals of the city and what they are. Uh so that hopefully people will continue to see them and kind of get familiar with them as we go. So, and this is where I'm still learning. I had to jump down to this one. So instead of going so there's going to be a little bit of a hopping around but as kind of just a refresh here of what our goals are for uh 2025 um you know the I'll kind of maybe hit on the things that we're working on at the moment uh as opposed to the things that are still in the future here. The big one for us is uh consistency in communications. I think uh there's a lot of things that we do and have done, but what we're really trying to at the beginning of this year at the very least is uh make sure the things that we're doing that we're consistently doing them and that we're making sure to update and kind of build that cadence and build the muscle memory so that these things become a routine and become something that happens uh on a set cadence versus, you know, one thing here and one thing there and seven things over here. Um, so that's a big one. Our website refresh we're working on now. Um, as well, one thing that's not on here, but that we just recently completed was, um, you might notice that the Zoom mics, I should have checked beforehand, but I'm assuming they were gone off of your desk, too. Um, that's just the trust that we have that they got they got done. Um, but all that's now incorporated into the camera system that we did have. So, for probably about a year or two years, uh, our switcher was down, our camera system was down. It was dated equipment, but now we got it all back up and running. So, on Zoom now, it's got graphics that show you what agenda item we're on. Um, it can zoom into different people. It's not having to show the same uh webcam feeds. Here, you can see how much more room I have with my hands. So, I'm not going to knock any cameras down over here. Uh and then as we get into June, we'll be more than likely be able to get the uh cable station back up and running as well. So, kind of step one is just getting back the cameras and step two will getting the the station back going as well. So, so those are the highlights there and this is the this is the real reason I'm here, but I got to throw in more than one slide. Um but so the the one thing we're bringing back is uh Chaza today. Uh actually we're gonna I think we're actually going to keep the name as well. So um this was a magazine or kind of a newspaper insert that was in the Chaza Herald back in the early 2000s. I think 2008 was when it kind of um retired for or took a hiatus I guess. So uh and let's see if I can zoom in on this. The one thing I've been trying to kind of figure out on this, but I think that's a young John Kellen. No. No. Okay. No, that's a this No. Who's that? I was trying to figure out who it was. Does it say in the article? No, it doesn't. That's poor journalism. No caption on the the picture. I was just going to say it talks about John in the article. Photo. This is a real one. This is a real issue. Oh, yeah. I know. I I uh AIDed this. Yeah. I was trying to figure out cuz I was like I don't I know uh what uh is Chili's in the middle there. Okay. No, I'll tell him though that you thought Oh, I'll tell him. Oh, no. I got See, I zoomed in. Oh, it kind of looks like him actually. That's what Yeah. Oh, you know what? We'll move on. You got other things to do tonight. Um but so the big thing with uh with this piece that we're bringing back is it'll get mailed out to all of Chesa residents. Um, and well, and businesses, anybody in the 55318 area code. So, uh, or sorry, zip code. Um, so that'll actually probably reach even more than just Chaza residents, but there's no way to really stay within the actual border either if you use CHASA or 55318. So, it's uh, every other month. So, we'll have that go out and it'll have kind of cover city news and initiatives. uh try to be broad in what we cover as well as incorporating local businesses and other um kind of areas of topics as well. So, uh it'll be 11 by7 folded, so front and back. Um so that's just going to be kind of a one sheet and as we go if if this year goes well and we get a lot of positive feedback or or just I guess feedback would even if it's negative would assume that people are now reading it. So to me that's a good thing. Um, so depending on what we get feedbackwise, we could always increase that next year if uh if it turns out we need a little bit more space. We also are working on a few new video projects. Uh we have our very own Matt Podski who's in a you ask we answer series. If you saw that this past week, I think last week was our first one we rolled out on park development and how parks are paid for uh within the community. our our next one coming out is going to be on City Square West. Uh talking about that and then our our hope is as we get going with this that uh residents and people start actually inputting questions. Um locally yours is the other one that's coming out. Uh we've shot a few of them already. So uh you can see uh Taylor Hubard and Michaela Hatfield there in the forge. So that was one of the places they visited. Um, so I we've shot two of those so far. So we'll this one will be I think the first one coming out shortly. So um stay tuned for that one as well. It's part of our support local campaign that we're working on. Kevin, where is Locally yours is going to be Oh yeah. Or the podcast the Podaraski cast. Yeah. So that's on uh Instagram. So the Podaraski cast. Who's on Facebook? Because I could use it. Yeah. So, it's on uh on Facebook and Instagram. Uh for the locally yours, that'll be Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. Um the you ask We Answer will also we'll try to get on YouTube as well in the shorts part of that. But yeah, so those those are where those will be. Locally yours will be a good one too for kind of that longer format. And then eventually when we get the cable station up and running again, the locally yours will go on the cable station as well. So nice. Yep. Love that. Yeah. And you can tell there's an open space here. This is where I was going to I was trying to add a photo in from uh Taylor Tries and andor uh Tay Talks here, but um for whatever reason it wouldn't it kept loading it sideways and I couldn't get it to rotate to the correct way. But uh the you just tried tried that. I'll give this to you afterwards. That's okay. I gave up. I just said, "Well, guess what? This will be a question mark. It's a blank space. Yeah, it will be a fun surprise canvas. Y when it when it comes when I come back to present to you again, I'll just turn every picture sideways so it looks like it all blends in. Um and now we have our website refresh. So it's not necessarily a redesign with Civic Plus, but they kind of give us an opportunity every 3 years to uh kind of look at the graphic elements especially of the website. So not so much site navigation or the basic building blocks but you know color scheme, photo, other kind of dynamic elements especially on the homepage. Um so our big focus is always to kind of go more mobile friendly, streamlined, you know, try to make things so that people can see them on the homepage or at least the things that a lot of people want to visit on the homepage. Uh so it just makes it easy for people to get to where they need to go. Should we call it a redesign? No, because it's actually I they say it's a redesign, but it's not really. It's more like a I think of it as a refresh and I just was I had for some reason I had don't call it a comeback in my head. So when I was you know thinking of headlines makes sense. So but uh yeah cuz a redesign for me feels like it's the whole website. This is you get kind of like five to seven elements you can kind of change or update. So a lot of these kind of modules or there's a refresh. Yeah. Thank you. See, now you're all going to be with me on that one. Um, and then the last exciting thing that I just wanted to tease is our uh new 5 trailer that we're working on. So, this is Officer Martin and myself on the You've heard of our community engagement trailer that we've been Is that what we're calling it? The 50 trail. Yeah, it's that's the work it's the working title. Okay. Is that It stands for fun interactive vehicle engagement opportunities. So the police Oh, it's sign stands for something real. Okay, I like that. Also a police call. Yeah. Five or the police, aren't they? Yeah. Yeah. Uhhuh. Well, it's part of the police. The police are part of this trailer. So, uh, we kind of my question. What's that? Go ahead. Ask your question. Yeah. It's a It's a term for police. Um, but as we were I mean this is also the city of uh Aurora, Colorado kind of I think originally came up with this idea. So we've been talking to the officer that put this together for them. So this is actually a picture of their trailer there. Cool. Um so ours won't look quite like that. But I think the whole point is we're we want and I guess we're we're open to ideas. We haven't necessarily put any skins on the trailer yet. So, uh, we just want it to be a really kind of engaging name and then also kind of a fun look to it so that, um, people when they see it, uh, do want to come up and engage with us. So, one thing we did learn in kind of our, uh, exploration is to not only just focus on the food aspect of it all, still have some of that, but then also kind of work in uh, some other ways like potentially like uh, a TV screen that can kind of sit in the serving window. So, if we need to do presentations to people or, you know, for kids have potential for some video games or just other ways where if we're not um because we have 10 events we can serve food in and then outside of that, we can still use this and still be quite engaging. So, so that's kind of my presentation. Michaela, if you have other names, we can always go with uh something for like a what could be on a license plate. So, is it just for like food or is it um I get that it's like for 10 events like there's I'm watching their videos of theirs and they have like cornhole boards and like a lot of other things in it. It's kind of like a mobile block party where you can go. So, it's not really like because for a second I thought it was like a food truck. Well, so originally that was kind of our thought was to be more It was always going to be an engagement trailer. The food was the easiest way to engage people is food. Oh, obviously. Yeah. But um but when we looked at especially when we were looking at uh Aurora's trailer, we're like, "Well, if you put a TV screen in there instead of the serving window, we can still have hot dogs and other things, but with the way the permitting works for uh for food through the with the state health department, you kind of there's a limit to 10 and then if you go above 10, then you're almost going into a full food truck type situation. So, we really kind of wanted to say, well, we'll start with 10. I guess if you know, if we decide moving forward next year that, well, shoot, we really need to serve more food at more than 10 events, we'll we'll look into upgrading that piece to it, too. But, uh, we thought then doing it this route might also create an opportunity to say, okay, if we've already hit our 10, we'll still have a something that people will be able to kind of engage with. And so we'll bring this to community events, but then can people also request it to go to community events? They can request it in the sense that we're going to try to get out to like some of the neighborhood parks. Yeah. Uh so actually get more into the neighborhoods where people can just walk up to it. We'll have it at some community events as well, but but really trying to get more into like, you know, someone's having neighborhood watch party or just announcing this day we're going to be here at this park. So, if you live in this neighborhood type thing. Nice. Yeah. So, I mean, no one I mean, people can't rent it. It we'll be the ones towing it and coming out, but Yeah. But if if people want us to come out to their neighborhood, then we're more than happy to bring it. And this is uh the old uh search trailer that we're refurbishing for this purpose. Yeah, it's good to know. So, more to come on that, but just figured I'd throw that in there. All right. Question goes for both you and Marshall. That old trolley thing that used to be in the city, you know. Was it owned by Jes? No, it was Southwest Transit. Oh, I thought it was CH. No, I was going to say that would be cool to link all the parks, the big parks, not like the little city neighborhood parks, but like Lions Park, Fireman's Park, New Park, you know, like a trolley, like a tour. Yeah, like a torch. Yeah, I was thinking like do that park, but it would be cool so that people could see all the parks and like get, you know, do a park trolley day. That's good. They could definitely provide the trolley. Could be like a park of Palooa. You know how I like to have those progressive dinners, you know? You like that's like a real park of Palooa, right? Park has an event. Go enjoy all the parks. I'm serious. Like a special event at these park spot. Mhm. Aiden Furry does it every year where they go from Riley to Round to I forget what there's like three. But anyway, it goes around and then it stops at the high school dome at the end for like playing. Yeah, it's just it's cool. Like that'd be cool. Tram or I think they call it a tram, but I thought the trolley was ours, not Southwest Metro. Never mind. Well, is kind of ours. We can get access to it. Yeah, it's a joint power, so it's like kind of one third. Okay. Yeah. I don't see it anymore. Is it dead? No, it's just used for River City Days. I mean, they've used it for a lot of other things since then, but they got like a lot of special events. I feel like I feel like I used to see it around a lot and I haven't seen it in the more recent. It's mostly for special events. Cool. Any other questions? Any questions for Kevin? No. Matt, any questions? No. No questions. Great job. I'm I'm I'm really excited to see the uh well all of it, but the the newsletter especially. I think that that's going to be a really great tool and resource for our community members, especially the loss of the paper. Um and not everybody uses social media and it's nice to have a source coming direct to people's uh mailboxes that they can save and hold on to. Um, I think that's, you know, a nice tangible asset to have. So, thank you. That's a lot of hard work and I appreciate your work and Christa's work and and all of that. That's a great update, too, to like you can do more of those. We like those. That was helpful. I don't know how to say that a different way. Sorry. Sounds good. Hey, anytime I can pull out resies, right, I'm down for that. It would also be fun on that that news that news brochure that's going out to highlight like a city worker every month because I feel like I didn't even know who you were until you came to our block party last year. I mean most people probably know he's not actually a city employee. What? But I mean like the police there to to recognize who the police or fire or even the council like there just there's so many of us that I don't think everybody knows. Yeah. other city did like meet meet your plow driver and they did like a series because you see you I mean you see yourselves or we all see you guys or us whatever in the stores and in the parks and in you know so it' be nice to oh I recognize you from I think that's one thing we talked about during the retreat too is how do we personalize the services it gives humanity I think to what we're doing so something we can do and it was funny because I was getting a jersey mics the other day and the guy in was like, "Aren't you the new city council?" I'm like, "Yeah, for your word, actually." Oh, really? Can I get a picture with you? I'm like, "Yep." Um, awesome. All right. Well, moving right along. We've got uh approval of the previous meeting minutes. So, let's see. We're having the website is crashing over and over or Civic Plus's agenda if anybody's noticed that here. So, I'm just going to do a little reboot here. Um, but uh we have the meeting minutes for March 17, 2025. Does anybody have any additions uh corrections on that meeting minutes? Otherwise, I'd entertain a motion to approve. Motion to approve minutes. Okay. Motion by council member Hatfield. Second. Second by council member Gra. Any discussion? Otherwise, all those in favor say I. I opposed. All right. The events are approved. And that moves us along to consent items. Consent items are items on the agenda that need little to no discussion. Um something can certainly um be pulled off the agenda to have a further discussion. Otherwise, does anybody have any questions on any of the We've got little laundry list of consent items, but does anybody have any questions on the consent item at all? No questions. But it's always exciting to see like River City Days and Music Festival and things all the summer events popping up on there. So yeah, I know a 7J with the Idol House. Uh it was really cool. Some I don't know where I saw it, but I saw like before and after pictures and they did a fantastic job in there. Good job. Um I went to pre that was my that did that. Very very beautiful. So, I can't remember where I saw it, but I saw it on Facebook. Blown away. I went to preschool in there and uh Wait, is that the building you went to preschool in? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for knowing that. Yeah. Well, the before pictures is very evident that it was a preschool. So, it was kind of fun to like remember preschool in there and like see how it's beautiful. So, so um the one thing I did want to mention on the overlay program, so our overlay program came in significantly under I was thinking that I was like, "Wow." Yeah. So, to the point where uh we're going to be working with the contractor to see if we can potentially add additional uh uh road uh lengths onto there. And we had planned on just doing the north half of the town course parking lot. Uh we actually pro if if the contractor can fit it in, we can probably do the entire parking lot this summer. That would be great. get. So, it's it's uh you know, everything else seems to be going up in price, but uh we're not the only ones who have seen good pricing for overlays. That's good. Market, baby. So, cities, if you're listening, get your overlays. Exactly. Oh, true. Just kidding. Um all right. Well, uh I didn't entertain a motion to approve consent items. Motion to approve. Okay. Motion, a second. All right, I got a motion by Council Member Benes and a second by Council Member Shiblin. Uh, any other questions or discussion? All those in favor say I. I post. All right. Um, action items. Okay. Aa tabled from uh March 17th, 2025. Adopt resolution number 2025-14 and ordinance number 1055 approving the preliminary plat and resoning for Fultonwood/Pultyomes/PPC number 2024-21. Uh mayor and council members item in front of you tonight you'll remember was at a previous council meeting uh the March 17th meeting and was tabled to that point. At that point, uh, uh, the council had a number of comments about, uh, ingress and egress out of the neighborhood, uh, mixture of housing types, those types of things as as comments. And, uh, did not want to take action on it that night, but asked to have, uh, it tabled so that the developer would have a chance to go back and respond to some of the, uh, the comments that have been made. So, uh, Liz is, uh, here to go over the presentation of what, uh, PI's been working on. We do have representatives from PY, uh, here as well. So, I'll turn it over to Liz. Thank you, Matt. Thank you, Mayor and Council members. Um, I just have a very short presentation for you to kind of give you an update on where things are at. So, I'm not going to go through a full um, analysis of the project itself, but happy to answer any questions if anything comes up. Um but as Matt mentioned, this is uh basically a resuming of discussion over the project known as Fultonwood uh which is for the England and twoacre friends parcel being proposed by PY Homes. Um it is for a preliminary platin resoning. Um so the discussion uh halted at the city council meeting from February 24th of uh this year. Um it was tabled to March 17th. uh during the February meeting, but uh the applicant did request to have further time to work on their plans. Uh so that's why we're seeing that uh the revisions this evening. This is kind of a again a uh resuming of that uh discussion and looking at the revisions that have been made. But to give you a little bit of refresher, which Matt has provided um some um highlights as well from that February meeting when this was first uh reviewed by yourselves. Um there were a few comments that came out of that meeting in regards to the preliminary platinum resoning. Um so one of them was to look at the addition of a second access onto Spring Creek Drive. um mainly related to the emergency access into the development itself. Um and then also commentary surrounding uh the variety of housing type uh within this neighborhood in general to have them further look at um other h housing types that can be incorporated to provide a balanced approach to density of the neighborhood. Uh so that was kind of a overall high level uh the feedback that was received during that meeting and kind of what PY has been working off of in in terms of their revisions. Um so the plan on this slide is in response to the comments received in February. Um some of the the main changes that have occurred since February is they have reincluded that western access on Spring Creek Drive. Uh so this access point here is new uh whereas before it was a culdesac. Uh the lot count has also changed since February. Um so with the addition of the new access onto Spring Creek Drive, it did eliminate one lot within their development. Uh so they are at a total of 52 lots uh for this neighborhood. Um from a density standpoint, that brings them to 3.03 dwelling units per net acre. Um and then in terms of the housing product, um PY uh will still be providing um uh two-story uh plans within this development, but they've also uh will be including two uh singlestory slab on grade uh plans as a part of the resident's uh choice. And those are the Mariam and Passport plans. Um so a few images of those plans. Um, and I'm not going to go into too much detail because PY uh will be presenting kind of more so their um their thoughts on uh where they're at from the housing product side of things. Um but to give just a little bit of a high level overview um they are offering the twotory plans uh that they were before um as well as introducing two singlestory slab on grade plans that are featured on the right hand side of this uh slide. The two stories um are between the price points of $500 to $600,000. Um will range in size from $2400 square ft up to 3,000 square ft and have the option for both either two or three stall garages. Uh these singlestory slab on grade units which are also considered their move down product uh for PY will range around the mid $400,000 price point. Um and they will be roughly 1500 square feet in size and have two stall garage options. Um and then PY will again have their own presentation to give you this evening to kind of go in a little bit more depth on the analysis that they uh went through uh regarding your commentary from last time. Um this slide which is just a carryover from where we last left off in February is just some things that they need to work on. Um, so I'm not going to go into too much detail there, but um, just some things regarding landscaping, evaluation of pedestrian connections, further coordination with both ourselves and Carver uh, for utilities and um, Spring Creek Drive and Storm Water Design, too. Um so from a staff standpoint um we're in a position um to maintain the same um recommendations as last time which one is to um make a motion to adopt resolution number 2025-14 which is approving the preliminary plat um and then based on the conditions that are listed within that resolution. And then the second motion would be to adopt ordinance number 155, which is approving the reszoning to the PRD 88 district for this neighborhood. I also just want to point out that uh uh within the state statute review requirements, um we did uh request an additional 60-day review period, which brings us to ultimate deadline of June 5th. Uh just want you to keep that in mind as you're kind of uh talking through things. this evening. Um, I am happy to answer any questions. We do have PY here and they do have a short presentation, but if there's any questions before they kind of take the the stage here, I'm happy to answer any questions. Does anybody have any questions for Liz? All right. Otherwise, PY can representative, you can come on up. Take it away. Thank you. Um, we have a few slides, so I'll just wait for that. Just one moment. Yeah, I suppose name name. Yeah, thank you for having us tonight. My name is Haley Dailyaly with PY Homes. Um, our address is 1650 West 82nd Street, Sweet 300 Bloomington, Minnesota. I also have with me tonight Dean Lauder, our director of land planning entitlement, and Tom Desutter with Westwood Engineering, should there be any specific engineering questions arise. So, as Liz mentioned, I just have a brief presentation to go over kind of who PY is, our approach to the site based off feedback that we received after the February council meeting, as well as to go more in depth about our proposed homes. So, for PY, we actually started in 1950. We're a national home builder throughout the United States, but we build throughout the entire Twin Cities metro area, as you can see from this slide. Um we currently are building in the city of Chaza but under our Dell web brand. Um Adalwood by Dell Webb was a development that PY went through entitlements and was the builder on. Um it's one of our age restricted communities. So it's 55 plus uh larger in size typically and highly amenitized. This proposed neighborhood would be a PY homes neighborhood. Um, and then one other thing that kind of makes PY unique is we're really focused on consumerdriven designs, which that means we're always looking for feedback from our customers and we do a lot of prototypes to make sure what we're building is what the market wants. As Liz mentioned, we made some revisions since our February submitt. Uh, two main things I want to address tonight is access as well as product. Um, as you can see from this slide, the February plan only had that one point of access. And we understood that there was concerns about safety in case that access point was ever blocked off. So, we did reinccorporate that western access point directly west of that existing Bird Street. And we did try to line it up so it's in between that green spaces for those other homeowners to the south so it doesn't hopefully negatively impact them. So, we try to take that into consideration as well. And then additionally, we had some crosssections drawn up from our engineer to kind of show what this site looks like from adjacent streets. This slide shows what it looks like from Chaza Boulevard. Chaza Boulevard is slightly higher than our proposed site. Um, but there's over 150 ft from the shoulder to the actual home. And then we would also, of course, add additional screening. That's what those green dots are showing because we're increasing the landscaping around those homes to hopefully add another buffer as well. Additionally, this shows it from 212. Uh quite a bit of diff distance here. It's over like 430 ft. There's a lot of vegetation. There's a pond. And on Mindot property, there's a lot of mature trees that we aren't touching. So, that will provide a nice natural buffer as well. And then, of course, we'll have landscaping in the back as required by city ordinances. for when it comes to product. Um, we originally were only proposing two-story homes, but we understand that there is a need for single level living within the city of Chaza. Um, so first I'll talk about our two-story homes and then I'll go over our one-story homes, but our focus is to provide the buyer choice when it comes to these homes. Um, so our two-story homes, we would propose six different floor plans, all with multiple front elevations themselves, and they range around 2400 to 3,000 square ft, 3 to 5 bedrooms depending on the floor plan, 2 to three and a half baths. And as Liz mentioned, these could be two stall or three stall. And then when you do three stall, three wide or you go three where it's one deep? No, it just be additional 10 feet on the side. So it would line up. And then this next slide shows some of our different elevations that I was talking about where there's a lot of variety within them. And PY offers over 30 unique color packages per plan. And all of our plans would of course abide by the city of Chesca anti- monotony code when it comes to new construction homes. And as mentioned, we've revised our plan to incorporate some single level living. This plan shown here is a called our passport plan. We actually build this in the Dell web community. It's one of our best sellers, which is why we felt we should incorporate it into the site because we know it's does well in this area and it does well overall in the Twin Cities. It's single level living. It's 1500 square ft, two to three bed, two to two baths, and it's two stall garage standard. And then this next slide again shows some of our different elevations that we would propose and that homeowners could choose from. Again, these all come with unique color packages and would abide by the city of Chaza's anti- monotony code as well. And then lastly, just as a quick summary, again, this uh community is 52 homes proposed. Um we did incorporate that western access point. So, if there ever was a safety concern, there's two ways in and out. Two things we didn't mention particularly, but we did incorporate that tot lot, which was something we discussed during concept plan, and we didn't incorporate it along Spring Creek Drive, so it was more centrally into the community and not off that road. And then, as Liz mentioned, this is consistent with the city's comprehensive plan. We're proposing a low density product. And as in response to the comments from the February council meeting, we are incorporating different one and twostory home plans. So that way the buyer can choose what best fits their needs and then all of our homes of course are high quality and very aesthetically pleasing. So, in regards to the one versus two story, are you designating certain lots for one versus two or does the homeowner get to choose and then choose, you know, where, you know, like I want this lot, I want it to be a onetory or, you know, how's that pan out? Right. Madame Mayor, at this time, we would let the homeowner choose what product they want on what lot. Perfect. That's wonderful. Thank you. That was my main question, too. Yeah. same. Anybody else have any questions for No, I would just thank you guys for putting that together a lot better to have some one-story options. I think that was a good solve. Um I also really appreciate the second access. Another thing that really made me think is when I I was driving that stretch the other day and how we've talked about how it just you it's like a straight down and there's speed concerns. Adding that other access gives it kind of a block feel that helps just um slow traffic naturally um or traffic calming to have that other access. So, a lot of safety, but also I think it gives it less of like a stretchway raceway feel. So, um I appreciate that being added and still having the tot. So, I think a lot was achieved. Um so, I appreciate you guys putting that effort in and um the presentation as well. And actually, just to add on to what Michaela said, I really do appreciate that you have the onele living because that is I have some friends in that car part of that neighborhood and it's mostly two-story homes right now and it's mostly families but with kids, but this would allow for a different demographic if wanting to be part of that neighborhood um to buy. So, that's really great. Have your parents live across the street from you? Well, I'm thinking about like the oak whatever this oak tree or whatever is across the road. I think you're building there too, but in Carver and they have the one story and they're really popular. Like they're extremely popular for the young families with only, you know, one kid or the old to your point, mom and dad. But I like that you're incorporating that into a neighborhood that's right now predominantly twotory young families. Thank you. Yeah, I would just echo the comments already and and just say thank you. I know last time wasn't the outcome you probably were expecting and wanting. Um but again I think the appreciation of the partnership we've worked before in the city and so I I I appreciate that willingness to to look at things and and kind of come back cuz um like I said it wasn't necessarily the outcome that anyone wanted or expected. But I think again I think this is a really good outcome. I like the mix. Uh, I actually really liked your comment, Council Member Hatfield, about you're right. It does became feel like it's a neighborhood again because you got two streets other than a runway. Um, you know, and that piece too. And again, I will then appreciate also the intentionality of trying to align that other exit so you're not beaming lights into people's cars because they'll go complain to Carver and we won't even hear about it, right? Because it's across the street's Carver, right? Yeah. So, what what does that cha do to cross the street? But I it was definitely intentional. I appreciate that to make sure that we're being mindful of our neighbors. And I'll echo all that. Thank you for doing that. And the second access point really I I was concerned about that myself and I appreciate that you guys went back to the drawing board and came back with something that works. So, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'll round it out to say that I think this is kind of that key touch point when we talk about housing legislation and we talk about, you know, local control, this is a positive outcome of something like that that, you know, um granted we're in a unique situation where even though this is sort of like an infill, the neighboring uh neighborhood is a different community, but we still weigh out their needs in mind when we're making up here and we're making our decisions. And as council member Grod touched on, maybe the last time this came up for preliminary, it wasn't the outcome that was expected, but um hearing the input of what we are looking at and seeing and what we wanted to make sure um we had as a a standard of living in that neighborhood that you guys went back to the drawing board and you incorporated those um key elements and those feedbacks into the into the design. And so we were able to come up with something that's going to be just fabulous over there in that neighborhood. So I really do appreciate you incorporating the feedback that we gave to you and having the presentation tonight so that we can have a full discussion about it again and I think it makes everything um better as an outcome. So mayor and council members, thank you for your time tonight. We're excited to be in Chesca. Thank you. To clarify, we need two separate motions. one for the resolution and one for the ordinance. Is that Yes, you would be correct. I believe we have one for the Yep. resolution and then the ordinance number 1055. So, we'll tackle the uh resolution um number 2025-14 uh adopting uh the preliminary plan reszoning for Fulton Woody Palms PC-2024-21. Can I entertain a motion? Motion to adopt the resolution number 2025-14. I was going to say I did most of the heavy lifting there. All right. We've got a motion from Council Member Bennish. Second. And a second from Council Member Gra. Any other further discussions on this? All right. Um All right. Otherwise, all those in favor say I. I. Opposed. All right. That one carries. And then yeah, we have an ordinance uh number 1055. I entertain a motion to adopt that as well. Motion to adopt 1055. So we have a we have a motion on the floor uh from council member Chevwin. Second and a second from council member Benes. All right. Uh any other discussion? All right. Uh all those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. All right. Both are approved. Thank you. Thank you for coming in tonight. All right. Moving along on the agenda, we have uh item 8B, adopt resolution number 2025-22, approving the preliminary site and building plan for Beckman Coulter at 316 Lake Hazeline Drive, CRB PC- or PC number 2025-05. I feel lost without this thing, being up. Anyways, take it away. All right, mayor and council member, I have in front of you tonight. This is an exciting one. We've talked about before uh with the addition for Beckman Coulter up at 316 Lake Hazelton Drive, a building they purchased, I think about 5 years ago or so, uh not too long ago, but uh uh this is coming from the planning commission for a recommendation for approval. So, I'll turn over to uh Liz to go through the presentation. Thank you, Matt. Thank you, mayor and council members. Uh we have a preliminary site and building plan for Beckman Coulter at their building addressed of uh 316 Lake Hazeline Drive. This is being proposed by Beckman Coulter and their engineering consulting firm CRB. Uh the site in question is highlighted in kind of an orange yellow on this aerial exhibit. Uh it's located on kind of the northeast uh boundary of the city of Chaza. So it does border uh the city of Chanhassen as well as the Twin Cities and Western Railroad on its northern side. Um it's in a industrial park uh located on Lake Hazeline Drive and Lyman Boulevard or County Road 18. Um this aerial also shows um that Beckman Coulter really does have a campus up in this area and so uh the red dots indicate all of the buildings that they own or leased up there. Uh so this is one of a few um within that campus. We're at the second step in our three-step review process. So this is where we get into more of the technical analysis of the project. Uh there is uh an additional step following this one. Um that's more uh dotting eyes and crossing tees. Uh should this uh approval move forward this evening. Um, just in terms of those previous approvals that have been done, um, I'm not not going to go over everything on this slide, but I think the more important thing that's happened recently is in December of 2024 is when we had the concept plan come forward for this building edition. Uh, the concept plan is shown as the image on the left hand side of this slide here. Uh the site that the building addition is located on is roughly a 13 acre site, almost 13 acres. Um it's within a planned multi-use district, PMD1 to be exact. Uh this area is uh zoned for industrial use. Uh the building on site is currently a one-story 60,000 ft² building. They also have surface parking lot that is approximately 180 stalls in size. Um there's two access points on Lake Hazelton Drive, both of which will be maintained with this building addition setup. Um there's also a couple wetlands that exist on the north sides of the property. Uh trees that also exist up there as well as a an electric easement uh running along that northern property line. Liz, what's that little triangle that's not up there? That what is that? Uh I believe it's owned by this neighboring site here. If you notice that curve uh going in there, there used to be a rail spur that came off of the Twin Cities Western Rail into that building, which was Preferred Products. And so I I it's either owned by the railroad or or by the the company that's there, but it it had to do with that spur. Yeah, it just looked like a random lot size and left over and Yep. Thank you. Uh just a few images of the existing site showing um the building from Lake Hazeline Drive and then some of the open area in the north side of the property on the bottom image. Is that the path? Uh so the request this evening is for preliminary sight and building plan uh to add on to their existing building which would be a two-story building addition totaling 148,000 square feet for both stories. Uh with that, uh they're also doing a a parking expansion to their surface parking lot. Uh the preliminary plan is shown on this screen here. Um it's proposed on the northeast side of the existing building. Uh the footprint of the the new addition would be roughly 88,000 square ft. However, it'll be two stories in height. um that'll add on uh additional office area as well as warehouse and manufacturing space. Um the proposed plan also accounts for uh four a little over 400 stalls uh with the initial construction of the building addition. However, the site can accommodate up to 529 stalls to meet parking code. Um so 128 of those are shown as proof of parking. So if they do need additional parking, they have an ample supply of parking stalls to construct if needed. Uh the two access points again will be the main access points into the site. Uh truck access would mainly use the eastern access point which would provide a direct uh drive aisle around the building to uh the east side of the building edition which would be um one of the main loading dock spaces. And then there will be another loading dock area on the northwest side of the uh proposed building addition. Both of which can accommodate uh large semi-truck trailers uh through the parking lot. Uh storm water uh will be handled mainly in an underground system. They will have some above ground systems too to help uh treat and reduce volume. Um the building addition does meet the development standards that are outlined for this zoning district in terms of Florida area ratio and building coverage. They stay within those thresholds. Um and then the parking proposed is also within parking requirements. Uh this is the proof of parking plan. So if they needed to add additional stalls, it would um likely be added on the north side of the property um outside of the wetland areas. And then the landscape plan, they're also showing a landscape plan that meets uh the city's requirements uh for this size of building addition. Um so they will be right at uh the caliber inch requirement for overstory, a little bit over the understory requirement, and then provide the necessary shrups on site too. Um these images might be a little bit hard to read but these are the building elevations. Um just generally speaking they are planning to use uh similar materials to the existing building out there which is primarily made out of uh concrete panels. Um so the majority of the building addition will also be concrete panels with um reveals to provide a little bit more interest. Um they will also have some significant um window or glazing on the building edition too to help provide more of that emphasized entrance into the new building edition. Um just a few renderings. So, the building addition will be um set back pretty significantly from the existing building, but we'll still have um a pretty appealing view from Lake Hazeline Drive, which is shown from uh these renderings. Uh so with that um we are asking you to make a motion this evening to adopt resolution number 2025-22 which is approving the preliminary site and building plan for 316 Lake Hazeline Drive uh also known as Beckman Coulter uh based on the conditions that are listed within that resolution. Happy to answer any questions otherwise we do have the team um for Beckman Coulter here as well. Does anybody have any questions for for staff or Liz? No. No. It's pretty thorough, but excited to see this come and thanks for staying in Chaska. Does representative from Beckman Coulter want to come up? Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Amy Salsbury. I'm the senior director of operations at the B mccultter facility here in Chesca. Um, yeah. So, thank you for entertaining us through all of these um updates we've been provided you. We're very excited to be able to be here in Chesca and um provide, you know, approximately 300 more jobs here u for the city of Chaska. Maybe they'll go to some of those py homes. It's the benefits of having to stay in the meeting, right? Um yeah, so I don't really have any comments. I I know you guys have seen a lot of this before, but h happy to answer any other questions that may have come up. Yeah. Um I don't have any questions otherwise other than just to comment that I mean the building looks beautiful. Thank you. And I'm sure a lot of work and detail went into it. So just um echo the comments of council member Hatfield to say we really appreciate you making the continued investment in Chaza um and bringing those extra jobs here as well. So thank you. Thank you. It's been a long journey. It's been a long time developing, I'm sure. Um, anybody else have any questions for Miss Salsbury here? No. Thanks. Thank you. All right. Uh any if any other discussion otherwise I would uh entertain a motion um to adopt resolution number 2025-22 approving the preliminary site and building plan for the building addition at 316 Lake Hazeline Drive. Motion to adopt. Second. All right. I got motion a goto. My turn. sweating over here on the right here. Uh, Council Member Bennish. Uh, and then second by Council Member Hatfield. Any other discussion? All right. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. All right. Motion's adopted. Thank you for coming in. Thank you. All right. That moves us along to um action item 8 C, transient accommodation license, Chesca Lodge Management LLC, DBA, uh Towns Square Place. Uh mayor and council member, uh tonight is the night that we uh renew all the hotel licenses. Uh we have two hotels in the community. You notice we put one under uh consent agenda. Uh I I purposely pulled this one off because I wanted to give an update uh on where things are at. Uh as you know, Towns Square Apartment, uh we have had issues uh with them for quite some time. Um uh to their credit, uh they've been trying to work to uh get things resolved. they do still fall under a level three uh which is our sort of top level uh based on where things have fallen over the the past year. However, I will say that since August of last year, they have not had any qualifying calls uh to the facility. Uh so that's a dramatic improvement uh from what we've seen uh over uh over past years. It's certainly not perfect. um they had made the request uh to ask that since they uh uh since they haven't had any qualifying calls since August if we would consider recommending them and going to a level two. Um the response that I had provided to him is is that um it's really important for us to stay consistent with our ordinance and that uh if we were going to reconsider it, it really would it really would be inappropriate to consider it before we have a whole year under our belt where they can show that they haven't had any qualifying calls. So, um you are seeing that we are recommending that you approve it. Keep them at that level three. That level three requires them to have uh a security uh officer in the facility throughout the night. Um and all the the different stuff that goes with that and working with our police department. Um but uh what we do plan on doing is revisiting this with them in August uh once we hit that sort of year mark and see at that point have things changed uh are we seeing continued positive progression? Uh does it look like they're heading in this uh in the right direction and then make some determination to be able to come back to it at at that point. So again, we're recommending that we keep them at a level three uh like we had before. Uh and if it seems appropriate to you guys, uh we will uh you know, revisit this in August and if it looks like it's something that makes sense to bring back to you, we will. Um if if we're not seeing any change, we probably won't and we'll probably just provide an update uh to you. Um the other thing I will mention uh that's happening down there obviously they have their restaurant space that uh they're trying to lease out. Um they do have uh an interested party to to uh come in there. Uh we're still yet to see if they're able to to you know get the the deal done with them. Uh but they are actively out trying to market that towards a restaurant. Uh and so uh our hope is is that within the next few weeks we'll be able to come back and you know announce that a restaurant's going back into that that space again. But again, I I pulled this off more so because I wanted to give an update to you guys on sort of where things are at and answer any questions you might have. It sounds like they've been better at communicating. Is that true? Yes. and the primarily like with our police department, Jamie Preonius is the one that uh is really in charge of this case and and if you ask Jamie, he'd be the first one to say that they've definitely seen improvement uh over time and they've been communicating better. uh and they have been uh from a planning perspective, administration perspective been communicating with us too about you know asking you know when they're looking at potential tenants there what we think you know do we think that they'd be successful tenants there and things like that so uh I will say I think that the communication has improved have we seen them make I mean it's probably not much of our business but I don't know if they've shared if they made any improvements inside or they worked on Okay. Not not that I not that I know of and and I don't think they pulled any permits to to do anything. So, I have a couple thoughts on this. Do we want to continue to give a license for that property to Transient? And I only asked this because it's so close to City Square West, which we're going to try to do a lot for. Yeah. It seems like that would be prime because there's not a hotel in Chaza and he's talking about like the baseball diamonds and all that. It seems sort of silly that we have such prime lots and land and so close to like down building up in downtown for this. And then secondly, if you say yes, that's okay. But then we should force them to have to make some updates at least to the outside. You drive past and it's an eyesore. The siding is falling down, the shutters, there's some windows board. I mean, it looks like it really looks when you come across 41 like you're coming into a ghetto in Jasco and you see that. And I don't think we want if we're spending all this money on parks and downtown revitalization for people to see that when they first cross over. So maybe putting some teeth into you have to at least get the outside looking nicer. Yeah. I mean, I don't disagree. I I I we would like to see them put improvements in there. You know, I I think I I'll defer to to Kristoff from the legal side other than to say that um there's a process within there's a process within the licensing uh for hotels that um you know, if they don't follow the process, we have the right to uh to pull their license and uh and then they wouldn't have the ability to have a hotel in out. Um, I think it would be really difficult for us to have that stand up if they're making progress in the right direction for the hotel. I there would be criteria for denial of the license. But if they are meeting the criteria and they're eligible for the license under the ordinance, I wouldn't think that there's there shouldn't be um discretion for the city to deny that license. they would be entitled to it if they're meeting the criteria and they're not ineligible um based on the standards that are in the ordinance. Um as far as the the exterior those aren't criteria that are in the ordinance. So, um, if there were nuisances that were identified, potentially the city would have options for enforcing under those standards or if there were other standards in the code that the city could look at um bringing enforcement for, but they're not part of the the transient accommodation license. Yeah. So, we have a we have a separate nuisance uh license uh which gets towards uh some of it gets towards the exterior material on buildings and uh when we get those types of complaints, the person who goes out and inspects those is our building official to to really look at uh is the is the property well is the property in compliance with the ordinance and if it's not in compliance with it, what what is it that that brings it there? I agree that there's there's uh you know some things on the exterior of the building that don't look good. I I don't want to speak for Nate, but I I would think it would be difficult to to say that they would meet the criteria in the nuisance ordinance. I mean, when it comes to nuisance, we'd be looking at things like overgrown weeds, um you know, blatantly deteriorating. I'm not saying it's that or anything. I It's not Yeah, I don't know that. Oh, I I don't disagree. And I mean, that's some of that's some of the the uh you know, that's some of the what's the communication that we have with them. Yeah. Is that it doesn't look nice. It doesn't function well. Um, I mean, I was just thinking also fairness like we put the screws to py on and you have to come back with this. You have to make and there's wasn't bad. It just didn't quite mean what we thought. So now then we're saying like a building that's right at the the difference there though is that that building's zoned already. When when we hadn't zoned that property out there, we had a lot more discretion on what we could require them to do with that. Basically, as that building is zoned, they have legal require or they have legal protections uh that allow them to uh well, they have to they have to go to extremes to not meet the the zoning requirements. Makes sense. The the city council has more discretion as you go to some levels of of of decision- making in zoning. There's um the the city has probably the broadest um the broadest level of discretion in making zoning determinations. Those have to have a rational basis um for for how the the uh for for the council's decision um articulable reasons tied to specific things. But as long as there are rational basis, a court would never or students who would would never but should not um second guessess the city's determination in that. Uh but when there are for example like a license entitlement where an ordinance entitles um an applicant to a license if they meet certain criteria then the council does not have discretion to deny it based on criteria that are not listed in the ordinance. Makes sense. I had a similarish question. Um first of all glad to hear that things are improving since August. I agree honorable wholeheartedly. let's see sustaining. Um, and I do think that that I mean if until you can really fix that, how much money are you going to turn around and invest in the property? Because if you continue down that path, you can invest all you want, but if you can't fix that issue, you ain't you will cease to exist, you know, potentially, right? So, ho, I appreciate that. Uh until I heard that information, my initial reaction reading this in preparation was how long in theory would someone continue to stay at level three until you say enough? So, no, we're not making that decision tonight, right? I I hear that. Um but I'm just curious and it maybe is probably not come up very often in the city chasa, but that was my initial request. like, okay, like if this is if August comes and it goes airshape and they're a level three and they're having all that, how long does that sit? Is there is that in the ordinance of saying like or is it really then become like three is okay, but you're four, you're done and we have to make that decision. I'm just kind of curious with that. Well, I can tell you that especially since this is renewal time, if if we looked at their statistics and they had gotten worse, we probably would be making the recommendation to say pull their license. And so I I think uh I again I I think it's hard for us to make a a good legally sound case when they're making progression in the right direction. Agreed. But if if if they were going in the wrong direction, um we would be coming back and making that recommendation that we take away that license. Well, good. I hope it sustains. I mean, I will say that it's, you know, I'm trying to look at I mean, I first ran for council prior 2020. I mean, if you in that area, those neighbors, it is the number one talking point to that those neighborhoods. It is. Yeah. Um, and you know, and I know like it's hard to tie everything that happens in that space to a location and that's necess not necessarily fair, but I also know and I can't don't have evidence to show it, but like you know, individuals unconscious passed out in cars that maybe aren't exactly on the property, which probably doesn't count towards a property. Now, again, I'm not saying that I've heard any of that happening in the last year. Hopefully not. That was some of the commentary with my door knocking it. Those are difficult. But I am hopeful that that improvement is incurred because it is needed. Um you know I think that is you know safety and concern for all humanity and individuals in that neighborhood are important and the prior years you know frankly were unacceptable. Um and so again I believe in improving and getting the right communication and those are promising. So, I hope they continue that trend because I think they're seeing really clear that the endgame, the other result, the endgame isn't great for them. Well, and so that should be all the probation they really need to say, okay, we got to do this. We got I think too it's good that we've been trying to work with them because I would be very concerned if we had to revoke their license about that building sitting there empty because if there's not a current it's much more marketable for another hotel to come along if it's an existing hotel. The second it's empty who knows how long I would sit there empty and then we'd really hear about it. So I think it's good to try everything in the books to work with them. and it does seem like I would have loved to see them here tonight. So, if they're listening, I guess show up, but um beyond that, I think they're they've made some effort. So, and I'm glad to hear about the effort. Like I said, I talked to the owner of, you know, the Tommy's before he moves over Sand Ventures, and that was some of his biggest concerns. And you know, now that Guardian Angels is opening up a preschool this fall, you've got kids right in the vicinity. And just I I would I I I wholeheartedly agree with there should be a place for everybody to stay in Chaza. And if that is the, you know, accommodations they can afford or need at the moment, that's great. I just don't want it to be something that impacts City Square West or a new preschool or anything any of the businesses and and residents that live in that area right now. Uh, are we and this might be more of a Kristoff question, but do we have knowledge of how many individuals are still living in that uh hotel on a more longer term basis versus actual customers that are coming and just lodging for more short term? Uh, I don't know if you know the numbers. I do not know the numbers. Uh my sense is is that you see probably most of the people who are there are probably there on a month you know monthto-month type basis and I forget is it that we is there a limitation of how much percentage they can have as that or is that not a limitation? No cuz there you've you've actually looked into the zoning on this property. The zoning is sort of unique. Well, it goes to the definition of what a hotel is. Yeah. And you know hotel is probably get the number wrong but I think it's something like 29 days 30 days um you know no no more than that of continuous stay well so what do you do to break that continuous stay you just don't sign a lease right for more than that and you know it's very hard to enforce what is you know the coming and going within that that's what our definition of a hotel sets right um so if I'm if I'm staying at a hotel and I stay there for wherever the number is. It says 29. I walk out, come back in, it's a whole new cloud. Start a new 29. You know, that's available for for folks to do that. So, and you know, that's not unique to this location. No, I know. And I it's not unique to Chesa. I my walking down the pathway with it is my thoughts are you know I'm I am also grateful that they have had zero qualifying calls and if I'm understanding you correctly because I was writing something down that if they continue to have zero qualifying calls in August we are going to step them down to level two maybe. Yeah, to me this is part of to me this is part of the ongoing discussion with them is we we wouldn't have to at that point because they met they they meet the definition now for the renewal of their 2025 26 time period. I I was just saying that if they went that we wouldn't have a discussion before August. I guess it was probably the base. The reason why I'm talking about this is I'm also slightly disappointed that I there's nobody else in this audience. So they could be on virtually. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt of that. But it's unfortunate that we can't continue to have this conversation with the owners because one of the things was um is talking about some of the elements that are being discussed up here and having that conversation with them. And I think one of the things is is the recognition of that we would like to see improvements. We have a hotel, but we don't have a hotel. No one can stay at the hotel if they're staying there long term. There's I don't that's why my one question is I don't want to assume that there's zero rooms to actually book as a hotel for a short stay. But if there if the majority or all of their capacity is a more shortterm longer stay then they're not serving the purpose that we've intended it for in this community. and and we have events coming up in no short time that will help us if we have lodging and we don't have lodging. I'm saying that's here and I'd like to have a further conversation with this owner about, you know, the intention of that space and what it's intended for. And I get it. I understand having a hotel in a suburb is probably challenging and off the main highway. How do you fill the rooms during the weekdays? But I also think that it would be really great to have that conversation and I understand that maybe our hands are tied in some ways. But it one of the things I recall us asking was for them to really highlight that they're under new management, which they did. It's like the first thing you see on their website. Okay. Cuz I But that's the only I mean but that's the only place you see anything. Their reputation is still the same. And I and I get the onus is on them to demonstrate that. That only hurts themselves. But it's just one of those things where they're part of the community. I want them to be here and owning up to the fact that they're part of this community and they're big part and they're they're a domino that dominoes down to all the other businesses in this community. even a space that they lease, you know, for a restaurant. That's imperative on them that they're doing their part in order for the success of another business to come in there and be able to be there and lend to the community because that stuff falls back on our shoulders when it's unsuccessful and I'm not going to take ownership of that. It's not a great place because we had a friend come from Delaware staying two weeks. He went back to Delaware after a week because it was so bad staying in there. Mhm. So, it's not, you know, it's not where we're going to want curling center or baseball teams or any and they do market themselves as an extended stay and extended stay suites and apartments, not as a hotel, which is very unfortunate. Unfortunate for us because it looks like we have a hotel. We don't really have time to I mean again to your point mayor it would because the question I'll ask that we probably don't know the answer and they can't answer for us is what changed in August because flip side is good you didn't have anything since August right the flip side of that is you had a whole lot before August and so what changed well they did they they did see management change and so if that I mean and so if that's the case good because I'm just trying to figure out cuz I guess I'm trying to get some belief is that sustainable or well their management changed in May 2024. Mhm. They got before a maybe less than kind council around that a shortly after. I can't remember when they were in Yeah, I know. I know. I got an email around that time last year of somebody concern because they were evicting I think what were some of the tenants that were maybe Yeah. I mean, that's I mean, that's something that they've shared with us is that they, you know, they've gotten rid of certain staff members that have been problems for them. Uh they've gotten rid of certain tenants that have been problems for them. Um, okay. Good thing. But again, I I echo that just because it's like I give you the benefit of the doubt until the benefit of the doubt comes back. So, I hope that that sustains. Again, we'll have that conversation what that means for levels. Um but it is in its current state unacceptable but it really is hoping for hoping those August hoping you I don't have hope it continues. We'll see half full my water bottle is half full in this case. Well, I mean, I will say that uh the being classified as a level three is a economic it's a pain. It's a pain for them. Uh I mean they have expressed that that you know they they do not have the desire to stay in level three because it's economically difficult for them to sustain that. Um which I get. I mean if you're having to hire that staff to do that. Um, and you know, you know, to your point, Mayor, I mean, uh, you may we set up a a meeting where we get them together with you as, you know, love to have a discussion. Yeah. to to sit there and and and talk about, you know, you cuz we deal with more the technical side, but you can really speak to that community side that, you know, and and how the council feels about it because it's obviously this is one that uh I don't think anybody's happy about the condition that it's in. It's Yeah. You go door knock down there now, I guarantee you that's going to get brought Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I don't and it's rightfully a concern. Sometimes you hear things that like okay we have a difference between 100%. That's a concern. I just think it doesn't go along with the plan that we are all trying to make for Jessica to be this destination you know for curling for baseball for whatever you know it's just not in line with some of the things we're planning for this city. Right. Remind me if a new owner Well, all right. Never mind. I know the answer. it the the level follows suit. Yeah. Which also makes it hard to attract hotel types that would be hotels, right? Although because you're inheriting most hotels have you're inheriting that that that level of cost and that level of scrutiny. Although I would say if if they were to bring a user that we'd say, "Hey, it would be a great user." All that's negotiable to me. Yeah. I mean that that reputation. Yeah. That that if you have somebody that has that type of reputation that's good and they're bringing in something new. I mean to me that's that's something that you'd say, "Hey, we we can look at starting this clock over again. It's the chicken egg problem. Invest in the property, get better different clientele, create behavior issues or fix the behavior issues and invest." But yeah. Yeah. And one of the challenges too, I mean, because we've, you know, we sort of talked about, you know, when we talk about a hotel in Chaza, you know, what we hear from developers more often than not is if they were going to have a hotel in Chaska, they'd put it up on on 212. Well, not by Costco. They put it up on 212 and 40 44 up on the industrial park. And you know, one of the challenges is is that uh there's just le less hotels are being built now because Airbnb and VBO have taken over a lot of that. So it's you know getting a good hotel and getting any hotel at all is getting more and more difficult. Does the Chan Hyatt get a lot of people? That's the closest hotel that I can think for Holiday. Oh, I was like oh maybe it changed. We know for a fact there's issues at that one. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I mean, they tore down their country and suites for redevelopment over there. So, they have the American. So, I mean, you got several new ones that were built in the Shakip area with the Super Bowl. Don't know. I don't several in Eden Parade. Well, you got to look you got to look each community is different though. Look at look at some of the things that are drawing. You got Mystic, you got Canterbury, you've got an amphitheater going in and Valley Fair and I mean, you know, so every community is going to have different drawing points for their hotel. And I think some of the biggest things, like I said, was that the weekends are never hard. It's the week days that are challenging and so it's, you know, providing that sort of thing. But, but at the same time, when we have this ex existing space, we have this hotel owner, they've, in my opinion, battled half of the problem, which is a hard half. They've done like some of the hard work of cleaning it up. I want to see them be better at the other half, which is invest. Invest and be a hotel. Be a hotel. Exactly. Don't be a hotel. Yes. We'll get something set up because we have the We just did the transient license for Super Eight and we have some other spots like that. So, yeah. And I mean we don't see a whole lot different you know type of use at super eight but the management has been consistently better. Sure. And you know they're smaller their their location's a little different like an eyesore. Yeah. So yeah. Well I see here does anybody have any else other discussion on this otherwise? Uh I saw that there's a motion to approve um their level three uh transient accommodation license um for effective May 1st through April 2026. Okay. Motion. Okay. Motion by council member GR and second by Chevlin. Uh any other discussion? Okay. All those in favor say I. I I opposed. All right. Almost done. Um 8D. Moving along. Public hearing. Oh, public hearing. All right. Adopt ordinance 2025-1059 amending chapter 5 article 5. Is it 5.44? Is that how you say that? 5.44. 44 sections 5.44.010 and 5.44.020 alcoholic beverages. All right, mayor and council member. Each year we have to go through the process of renewing our licenses for our uh establishments that sell alcohol. uh we actually because the state actually issues those licenses uh we actually do it to meet match up with the state's calendar year which is July 1st. Um but before we go through that process uh if we make any changes to our fees we need to do that so that as people are filling out the applications they have the the new fees. Uh you'll see in here that uh Denise did do a survey uh of uh communities out there uh looking at the uh sort of typical uh license fees especially for on sale intoxicating which is our most expensive license and you'll see that we fall quite a bit below uh what sort of the average is uh out there. Um so we are uh suggesting that we do uh increase it uh I believe it was by 3 uh% uh in each of the different categories and uh um you can see in the the chart that uh uh Denise put in what the actual dollar amount increase would be for uh for each. Um so as part of this uh uh part of changing uh the fees we do have to hold a public hearing and then uh a if we are to establish this then uh we then have to publish this uh in the paper uh before we actually implement that. So if there's any questions I'd be happy to answer them. My one question is because this is a public hearing, was there notice given to the liquor license holders currently in our community like specifically or was it just Okay. And make sure and Denise said that nobody contacted her. Okay. So, no, nobody Okay. Um Okay. Uh anybody have any questions for for Matt at all? No. seems like a reasonable change, especially since our rates are so much lower than the cities around us. Cost of everything is going up. Yeah, I think it's fair. Well, that that was my question was, you know, just trying to take a feel for the business community and, you know, if it was no one can see, there's nobody sitting in the audience right now in our council chamber now at this point. So, um, that was why I just wanted to see, uh, still obviously we'll still conduct the public hearing, but garnering the public feedback because like you said, costs have gone up and just seeing where people's feelings are. But it is good for us to make sure that we're staying in the in the same range of communities around us. And the thing you don't want to do is you don't want to not do anything for a long time and then all a sudden you get so far behind and then you have to make it's a little bit easier if you're just consistently making smaller changes. Stair it taxes. Yes. Yep. Stair stair step. Okay. Well, uh, hearing no discussion or questions from council, uh, I'll open the public hearing for, uh, this, uh, uh, ordinance adoption at 9:00. Anybody would like to come forward? Look, 901. Hey, you have to enforce this. You should, all right. Well, with that being the case, oh, that worked out very nice. Um, I'm going to close this public hearing at 901. Uh, and so with that, any other discussion? Otherwise, I believe we have to do a motion, right? No. Correct. I don't see anything. Okay. All right. I'd entertain motion. Motion to adopt the ordinance. All right. So, we have a motion from council member Bennishes to adopt ordinance 2025-1059. Second, and then a second from council member um Hatfield. Uh any other discussion? Otherwise, all those in favor say I. I. Nay. Okay. Motion carried. It's late. I'm sorry. Okay. Uh next we're moving on to bills. Uh, anybody have any questions about a bill? There was a million pages, but I couldn't find a there there was so many pages. It was resale resale resale resale. Yeah, there I think there was also it's it was a month worth month. I expected it to be long, but I was like, but no questions. So, I'll throw a question out there. I just uh I didn't give you a heads up on this. Here we go. Let's see if I can answer it. The challenge. I just spotted this one. I'm more curious. What does WAFTA do? WFA 2025 WAFTA. So WAFTA is a western area fire training academy. It was set up back in the 1970s and it was a consortium of a number of cities that came together to purchase the old Nike missile silo site out in St. Bonnie. um worked great for a long time. The fire department uh used it for training grounds. Then they determined that there was uh it was contaminated uh from the old Nike missile site uh that was out there. And ever since then, it's been a fight between uh the Department of Def of defense and WAFTA to determine uh to determine who is responsible for cleaning up the contaminants on the site. So, it's us Chan Eden Prairie, you know, all the cities sort of around here a part of it. Okay. I'm glad I didn't stump you. And I learned a lot. That was that was good education. Um, I don't know if it goes I I had looked earlier through these bills to see if I could see it, but when are all these um Oh, what's this? The internet provider telling me the streets are all marked for the internet. The metronet when is that going in? Well, Metronet's been sort of taking neighborhoods at a time. So, there are some neighborhoods in Chaza that have already had that installed and have it available to them and they're just sort of they're sort of taking subscriptions as they take down neighborhoods. Okay. Now, they're not going to offer TV. Uh they're going to only offer the fiber internet probably because no one watches TV. What's that? Nobody watches TV. Yeah, I watch TV. But they're not they're not a vendor through our public works. They're their own like they're a private company. Yep. Yep. The flags are in our yards right now and I'm like, "Oh, they're coming in." They marked it all off and Well, I mean, it's it's fiber service to the home. So, I mean, it's it I think it will be popular when it when it comes in. It is not in my neighborhood yet. I just looked. Fine either. It's all the flags went up a week ago in ours and they started digging yesterday. So, yeah. I Man, I think they came through the Clover Ridge neighborhood already, didn't they? No. No. Okay. Yeah. I think that's on the I I think I heard my neighborhoods in the near future, too. So, yeah, Canyon Road is on it this week, I think, because they started digging. Yeah. So, very cool. Well, I just didn't know if there was any money the city was going to make on that or not. But no, that's I mean where that sort of falls is we have the ability to charge a franchise fee if it's cable, but we do not have the ability to charge a franchise fee for internet. Um, which is sort of interesting because the whole point of a franchise fee is they're using the public's rightways. So, it's to pay for it and all that. Uh but I at some point in time, Congress decided that they wanted people to have more access to internet and felt that if they put too many impediments in the way that these companies wouldn't go in. Yeah. But is it our public works team digging the lines? No. No. No. It's their private crew because our public works team was putting the flags in. They were there with the Yeah. We have to uh so uh each so when you call go for one call for uh like getting your lines marked in your yard if you're digging or stuff. So each utility is responsible for sending uh their employees out to do it. So uh so our water employees will come out and do water and sewer lines. Our electric crew will come out and do electric. And then there's also storm uh storm water stuff. The build I was talking to the Chesa guys. We were at the park plane when they were going through marking and flagging. Y didn't know if we were build doing the lines or just marking. No, we just mark them. Any other questions? Otherwise, I'd entertain a motion pay. Motion to pay the bills. Motion by council member Gra. Second. Second by council member Venish. Uh nay. Are you calling roll? I am. Awesome. Member Hatfield. Yes. Council member Bennish. Yes. Council member Chevlin. Yes. Council member Gro. I and Mayor Huard. Yes, I know. Until I forget. Okay. Well, that brings us to other business. Let's start with you, Council Member D. Um, boy, I don't It seems like forever since we've met. I know. It has been and I've been personally really busy with transitioning of sports. Um, I guess I'll just comment, uh, you know, in this last several months, uh, sitting on the board with Southwest Coast Transit has just been really eye opening and interesting. Um, just kind of what's going on. I I, you know, I think the big conversations that really impact that, and I'll be honest, until I was serving on that group, I didn't necessarily realize how much it impact that, right? But just the federal government and grants and uncertainty with money and when it comes because you know grants get promised and you know uh different things are happening at the federal level you have the uniqueness I'll use the word uniqueness at the state level and how that is playing out. So it's just been really interesting and I've really got to know other commissioner members. I don't know that's what we're called. Is that what we're called? Yes. Yes. Commissioner me commission members. Uh and so yes, it's just been a good opportunity and uh again I think it's cool and unique like we talked about like the trolley right like we have that connection you know we have that resource where um you know there's a state tournament and how do we get people to the state tournament and everything like that so it's kind of a really cool asset that I I don't always take for granted. I took for granted how difficult that running that organization could be. Uh, but I just think it's a good reminder for people to understand that um it's a great asset in the community. So, that's been fun. Um, I guess the other commentary just a shout out to uh city works crews and fields and spring and getting baseball fields which I've made it pretty obvious is important to me in my life. But there are other play structures and fields that I'm sure they're getting ready to go and hopefully spring continues to cooperate um because baseball games are starting here soon uh which is fun. Um, so just appreciate cuz I know a lot of goes when the snow disappears, there's a lot of stuff left and so I know the city works really hard to get those uh fields and play spaces and soccer spaces and football spaces really active again and ready to go. So um lastly, I will say that I took my first time I'm going to get the road wrong. I'm going to be embarrassed by this. just left me the collector road going north and south that just opened up. Thank you. I live right next to it. You live right next to I took it because old habits are hard, right? So I go to community field. I still go on Fortnite or 29 or 212, take the exit, go through go through clo I took that. It's it's great. I will not if I can remember myself and break that habit, I will not go that way anymore. I'll I will take Savannah. It's just fun to kind of see that space and that's how me and Nate get to work and home every day. Great route. Yeah. So, and a huge shout out whoseever idea was to put the digital sign there that says open to, you know, right? Like to make that connection because I don't think that people naturally know knew that that road would get you to where it got you to at the end. And it feels a little bit like you're not supposed to be back there still. So, as more of it gets built out of signage and stuff. Yeah. And we put up that sign there too because the worst and it's the worst cuz I've done it myself is when you turn and go down uh England and you come up and you're like ah road's closed and you got to turn around. So we put it up there so people in Clover Ridge if they're coming downtown would remember hey you don't have to go that way you can go this way. Uh and then lastly just some more connections to things that I interact with in the community. I know we uh several months ago DBAT was in here looking for a continue to use permit. Uh I will say they have actively been connecting with softball and baseball communities to get people in there. Uh and so and and have good results. They um I think every player got like 75 free swings that you can go in there and everything like that too. So jumping into the community obviously they have incentive to get people in there to look at the facility but that good partnership. So, good to see that uh company open later this month, right? Yeah, I think they're but now they've been working with like the associations and people have been in there. But yeah, they're hiring looking for people and coaches and they're looking for their they're opening here soon. So, um just kind of a fun welcome to Chessa community event. So, yeah, that is all I have here. Awesome. Great. Uh Council Chill. Um, so I think similar to what you said, spring sports have sprung and we've been up at the community center for gymnastics is what we're doing Mondays this. So we the kids were gymnastics this afternoon, but it is really fun to see that community center at least from the hours of 5:00 to 8:00 when I'm there. Very busy. There are people on ice. There are people walking the track. The gyms are full. Pools looks like it's got a lot going on in it. Um, you know, it's been particularly full this year. I felt like it last week when I was at gymnastics, it was very refreshing to see people using the facilities and, you know, in in some contexts bragging about the different things that they could do while their kids were in, you know, recreational sports. Um, so that was very nice to see. It's also really great to see all the road work happening. The, you know, the, um, Bavaria road closure is already up and there's a lot of work being done there. 82nd Street I saw was starting to put their signs up and and work. So I think that's exciting. Um and then lastly, I got to speak a couple weeks ago to the Catholic school club scouts. So it's Sachs and St. Hubert's um boy that are in Cub Scouts and they just are amazing and they I actually invited them to come and they part of their um government badge is to come and see a live session. So they might they might come do a visitor presentation on what they're learning in Cub Scouts next time. Um but it's really fun to see those kids and in that same vein because my kids do go to St. Hubert. The spring gayla is this Friday and so if any of you are ever interested in what is going on in Catholic schools in your area, there's a lot of Chaza members and the spring gayla is a really great way to find out some of the great things those kids do that don't always make the news because they're little tiny teams, but they're they're very there's a lot of fun stuff going on up there. Wonderful. Do they still do the little stuffed animals on the beams for gymnastics? They got They sure do. They sure do. Love that. Ah. Uh, okay. Uh, Council Member Hatfield. Sure. Um, few things coming up. Coffee with a cop is Wednesday, 9:00 a.m. at Duncan. So, that's always nice. Get some donuts with this one. Um, Taste of Chessa is coming up May 14th. So, that's very exciting. Um, Christmas in May. It's also coming up. The date's escaping me at the moment. May third. May 3rd. Thank you. So there still you can volunteer for that. Um that's always a it's one of my favorite days of the year. So recommend um if you're looking to get involved and just want to dip your toes in the water of get volunteering. That's a good day to do it. Um and so those are things uh some other things. The downtown signage is looking amazing. Yeah. I can't wait for us to turn the string lights on. When are they going to turn on? I saw them out there working on them today. I'm I'm I'm looking forward to that, too. Yeah. Every time I drive around there's like a new sign up or whatever and then I saw the wires go up for the string lights and then I saw the lights actually go up. I know. I did the when the arch first went up. I was driving down fourth and I was like, "What?" Yeah. Almost done. Anyways, um but it's very exciting to see all that going up. So, it's like there's a little bit more every time I drive around. So, um I'm excited for the historical markers to go see up as well. That'll be really fun. Um and then I've gotten a lot of comments on like the bigger signs too, like as you are on 61 or on 41. Um that those signs are very nice directing and and then also the public parking signs. So, all of that is very exciting. Um the loop in the town course opened April 10th, so that was very exciting. Um, so you can get back into golf. It's been beautiful a lot of weekends. Um, and you can actually highly recommend trying out the loop. Um, and or the practicing your putt. Like genuinely, I'm not even just saying this cuz I'm biased, but my putting improved a lot just spending a little bit of time on the middleas because it is challenging. Yep. It's really challenging and you do just like So if you're, you know, need to work on being less of a for putt, that's your time, the place to do it. So, um, uh, they open, so they they do, uh, grab and go type stuff until usually about May 20th. Okay. Um, and then last, just to kind of, um, Council Member Gra kind of touched on Southwest Transit, but, um, they officially launched the 686 route, which I mentioned at our last meeting. Um, and we had a launch party for that. Uh, unveiled the two new bus wraps that two local students did. One of them was from Chaza. They're very They're both very cool designs. And I may be a little biased, but the Chaza one is really cool. It has sunflowers and the rusty patch bumblebee. And it's just like a really cool bus. We saw that on our way back from the capital. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I saw it yesterday, too. Yeah. So, it's just really fun. And um that route is already being is very successful. We've had about the same amount of people using still like the direct to the airports um which you can only use through the end of the month um as the new route. So it's already um adding a lot of value. People really love the park and ride. You can park and ride for $5 a night which is huge. Um so that's amazing. So lots of exciting things happening. Also as council member Gra alluded to there's lots going on with the agency. So, for a long time, we've been working towards um being a direct recipient um for funding. And so, we're kind of working through some different options for that. It might be um Matt worth having a work session to kind of get everyone up to speed because for the new council members, it is a joint powers agency that um is Chesca, Chanhassen, and Eden Prairie. Um and so that board is made up of those members. Uh, and then it would be probably just good for you guys to all be aware though of all of that that's going on because it's pretty big deal. And I think um I'm not sure if Eric, our CEO, is quite ready for it, but I know we had talked about getting either trying to get all three cities together to do one or just some individual ones, but I think it would be good for you guys just to be aware of some of the efforts we're making legislatively to do that. And also, it's it's pretty imminent, at least it seems. So, I mean, things kind of change with the wind sometimes, uh, when you're dealing with like the Met Council and whatnot, but, um, it does seem like probably in the next year or two that that's going to be a very real thing, which is a huge change. Um, just a small example, right now, we don't buy our own buses. So, those very expensive buses is they're paid for by the Met Council and we essentially we use them. That would go to for direct recipient, we would need to buy our own buses, things like that. So, that's huge. need to add staffing, all sorts of things. So, um, just want to kind of keep you guys in the loop in that, but might be good to have a quick work session on as well. So, that is everything I have. Okay, wonderful. All right, Council Member Bench. Um, I just wanted to bring some attention to first responders and mental health. Um, 5 years ago today, my paramedic partner at the time, Carl Meek, didn't show up for work. Um, I found out later that morning that he had committed suicide. Um, and so I just wanted to bring some remembrance to him and also let everybody know who was is a first responder that it's okay to ask for help. It's okay to not be okay and there are resources. Carl left behind uh a lot of family and also a lot of fellow paramedics who still think about him and uh you don't want to do that to those people. just reach out. So that's all I've got. Yeah, that's it's a hard topic, but it's good to but it's it's good to say that and it's good to keep that in the forefront and and um and have that. So appreciate you bringing that up. Um okay. Um moving along. Uh oh, Nate, do you have anything? Okay. Okay, Kristoff. Matt. Oh, sorry. Can I I'm so sorry. Matt, can I ask you on the bi-weekly you talked about the cannabis situation with the state? I got a little confused. Well, that's cuz it's really confusing. Okay. Thank Thank goodness cuz I was like, wait, what is happen? Could you just like take a couple minutes and explain? Yeah. So, so the way this works is that there is different levels of licenses uh that the state has. And the first grouping of licensing that they're doing are called micro businesses. And micro businesses are defined by how big they are, but they also have to be a grower as well. And they uh have an unlimited number of of micro business licenses that they issued at the state. You had to meet criteria, but they didn't have a limit. They have a limit of only like 50 retailer uh licenses within the entire state. Oh wow. I don't think there's ever going to be a true retailer uh the way they have this set up because they have I think it was over 1,800 uh of these micro business licences that they've given to. Then what they do is they come out into the into the communities that they want to be in and uh uh you and then have to get registered by uh by the cities. And so our ours as well as most every other city's licenses or registrations are set up as first come first serve. And so uh people come through the door. We actually uh say in our ordinance that they have to go through, get their inspection, pay their fee, do everything so that they're not just holding a spot. Um they get their sort of temporary registration from the city. Then they have to go back to the state. Uh tell them, okay, I got my registration from the city. This is a location I want to be in. The state has to come out and do the inspection of the actual facility. And once that happens, then the license becomes permanent there. and the registration becomes permanent there. So it's essentially whoever meets those qualifications and does that first the first three for us. Is it still three? It's still three. Yeah. So so it doesn't change it. That's why I'm convinced that because most cities set the the licenses at the minimum number and if I mean how many cities are there? 800 cities in the state. Um, and most of them are really tiny. Um, and so based on population. Yeah. So if there's almost 2,000 of these micro business license out there, my sense is that most of the retailers are going to end up being these micro businesses uh and that you won't actually see it get to a retail uh license uh which is just selling the product not growing it too. So they have to the micro lice businesses have to sell or to grow and sell. They don't have to grow on site, but they do have to grow. So in essence, they're selling their own product. Yep. Do we know if any of the businesses in Chask that might be in that we might have any in that category right now? Uh, no. But no, I mean uh we hope I mean I mean I mean because to me this is to me this is just sort of I don't know to me this just uh it's been sort of indicative of this whole process of how this has come out that it's just been sort of a freeforall. And you know, it doesn't change the fact that we can only that we're only going to allow three licenses to come in here and there'll be three businesses. Um, but I I really sense that the, you know, that these businesses that establish themselves and communities sort of ahead of this with the hope that they could be like already have a head start to start their business when when the licenses from the state occurred. I just don't know that it's going to play out that way. Yeah, that's kind of what it seemed. Okay, thank you for explaining that because I did get a little confused, but that's more clear. So, yeah, it I'll tell you what, when we when we first sort of saw the flowchart of how everything went, it's like this is this is ridiculous. This is way too complicated. Did they make it confusing to prevent it from really happening? No. I think they to me it's I always say it's they made it by committee. I was just gonna say that. Yeah, it's it's just taking a while. Yeah, I I think you know it's been how many two years that they've been working on this and it's uh I guess that's the thing that that that I struggle with the most is that I am positive that there's probably businesses in this community that would like to have the license but um but they just may not fall in line uh with the state licensing process that that allow allows them to be sort of that that group that gets it. So, but we'll see. I mean, that's I we expect that we're going to get uh inquiries very soon because the administrative law judge approved all the rules. Now, they're getting that stuff out and they've already sort of preliminarily decided who gets these licenses and thank you. Uh the only other thing I had is uh the so we have Christmas May on May 3rd which is a week from Saturday. Uh but this Saturday at 8:00 at Community Park is the tree planting. Um and if you go out there now um there's flags where all the trees are getting. So we're planting a lot of trees. Uh it's 50 to 60 trees uh planting out there. uh replacing a lot of the of the uh uh ash trees uh that we've lost to the emerald ashbor. Uh but it's a it's a fun event. It's a it's one to bring your kids to. I mean, it's it's just a fun event. You know, the holes dug for you. Shimmy that tree in there. The tree. You just shimmy that tree in the hole and you just put dirt in there. Well, that was my question was, do you for folks that are interested in volunteering, do you want them to bring their own shovel or rake or both? Is that something that you'd like? Yeah, it'd be great if they bring their their own shovel and and rake. Um, we do end up uh bringing some of the Christmas May stuff down so that there are some things of people cuz isn't it all in the water tower anyway? It's all in the water to Well, not that water tower. It's a It's a It's a different water tower. Yeah, I've been inside the Clover Ridge one. Yeah. Um, uh, okay. Uh, okay. So, last couple things. Uh, yep. Couple groundbreings happen. If you don't know and you haven't been around, we have some road construction in this community. So, work is being done on 82nd Street and also um, Ingler Boulevard and Highway 10. So, just make sure that you're looking at detour signs, road closure signs, respect, sign showing you where to go. Signs showing you where to go. Take an extra minute for your, you know, to get from two to, you know, two to fro on your commute around the city. Um, as that work is ongoing and it will continue to be ongoing all construction season long. Uh we were able to get a bond hearing for our city square west. So we went down and uh testified before the house capital investment committee. So that went really well. I felt really good about it. They had some positive words to say. So we'll just see how the session goes and we'll we'll see what happens. Um Highway 41 keeps the project keeps winning awards. So was able to attend the ASCE a uh banquet and they had an award American society of civil engineering which you know I found out some I mean it was a whole presentation so I found out a lot of things they're actually global which is kind of interesting um and they have like a ring and that you have and all that sort of stuff. So, but we won an award. We won the top award for that and then it sounds like we also won national award. So, with different different Yeah. So, the American Public Works Association, we ended up getting the national award for best transportation project. Is it was it for the roundabouts on the north side of it or was it for the coming? It's for all the stuff through downtown. Okay. Y So, yeah. So, every award it's gotten entered into, uh, it's won. Very cool. So, it's kind of a it's a very big uh very big deal. So, um and work is starting tomorrow in uh the City Square Park. I was just at public works this morning and they said that the the fencing was coming in tomorrow and they were, you know, going to pull the pavers and then lay the stuff down and do the ramp. So, he had a whole plan, which is going to take time, but it's really exciting to see some work happening in the park. Um, also on May 3rd is spring yard cleanup. Uh, so, you know, if you have uh yard clippings and and things of that nature down at Athletic Park, uh, open from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Real quick on that. Yes. Uh so the uh Shakabby Midwakan tribe has their new uh recycle center, organic center across uh the river where the Melkerson's horse track uh was down south here. Uh in the month of May and October of this year, uh if you're a Chesa resident, they're allowing you to bring down your stuff for free anytime during the month of May and October. Oh. Uh, so we're putting that advertisement out so people know. So, how do you prove your chords? Are they like driver's license? Driver's license. Yep. Um, well, that's that's really good to know. Um, and then let's see, I lost track of where I was at. I'm trying to find something else. There's also this Saturday, uh, Friends of the Library, their CHASA chapter is having a book sale from, uh, on Friday 2:30 to 5, Saturday 10 to 2:30 um, on fiction books. So, if you are a reader and you want to score some hot deals, they're pretty inexpensive. So, um, let's see. You talked about the taste attach taste of chasa. Uh the southwest chamber two thing or so actually along the lines first responder lunchon is on Wednesday April 30th at the event center. Uh yeah have to sign up through their website for that. And then um lastly I like to mention uh every so often certain things that are fun through parking racks. And one of the things that I participated in last year and I signed up again this year is a 100 mile uh run 100 miles or walk 100 miles in May. So it's like a 5K every day basically. Um and you register, it's open to residents and non-residents. And so for a nominal fee of either 40 or $48, you can sign up through the website. You log your miles and they have little competitions each week. And then um at the end you get a like a sweatshirt or a apparel or something. Run 100 on it. Yep. And so you get to wear it as a badge of honor. So you know get get your summer body going in May. I don't know. But uh but it's fun. It's a fun event um to do. And obviously you can do it outside inside at the community center on your own. It's going to be fun. Next meeting is Monday, May 5th. I think we have a work session. Yeah, we're having a work session beforehand on uh discussion and franchise fees. Yes. Oh, yes, that's it. So, uh yes, 5:30. Y and there was one more thing. I I feel bad if I didn't say it, but I forgot to add it to my thing, but Mikasa is having an event on the Saturday, April 26 here from 1:30 to 4:30 in Chaska. I think it's at the event center. Um, Dia Del Nino Children's Day. It's a tradition honoring the innocence, joy, and well-being of children. So, it's a fun-filled day dedicated to celebrating kids, pro promoting their mental health, and raising awareness about child abuse prevention. So, uh, so yeah, that's all I got. Uh, anybody else? Otherwise, last call. Uh, I'd entertain a motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. All right. Second. Okay. Motion by Council Member Hatfield and second by Council Member Bennish. I think you've gotten yourself on every single one like must been like a personal goal of yours tonight. All right. Uh all those in favor say I. I. We are adjourned. Thank you everybody.