[snorts] Are we live? >> Yes. >> It's funny. All right. Um, I'd like to call order uh the August 18th uh >> call to order. >> Yeah, the parks board meeting. >> Okay, [laughter] sounds good. >> It is now 6:33. And can we all rise and say the pledge of allegiance? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. [clears throat and cough] So, with that, I will look uh to hear any additions to tonight's agenda. >> I have none tonight. >> With that, I'll look for a motion. Motion >> and a second. >> Motion and a second. All in favor say I. >> I. Oppos? Same sign. >> None. Uh the approval of the minutes from July 14th. Reading through. I did not find anything that was out of the ordinary or that I could feel was incorrect. If anybody else has anything. >> If not, I'll look for a motion. >> Motion. >> Second. All in favor say I. I. Oppose. Same sign. >> Okay. On to discussion of music in the park event. >> Uh real quick here. Everything should be uh set up and ready to go. We did have one last minute entry we added to the slate which was Brood Awakening. It's a new uh coffee truck that is based out of Mayor. >> They started up not too long ago. >> Is that the one that was down here the other day? >> Really? >> Yep. >> Awesome. >> So we tossed them in on the flyer as well. got a contact with that. Todd Running's good to go. Uh we have Lions Club, Lockatrina, Journey to Wellness, Brain Freezy Ice Cream, Brood Awakening for Food and Drink options. Bounce houses are uh paid for and scheduled and ready to go. Carver County Archery is good to go. And then we uh almost didn't have ponies for this goound because they were scheduled at multiple, but then she was able to make it work. So >> Oh, beautiful. >> Awesome. >> So, we're able to come in on that. So, that'll be Saturday, September 26th, 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. out at Old School House Park. And then I did have to I ordered uh because we have the yard signs that we put up the week prior. I did have to order a new one since we changed the time. So, those should be here in time as well, and I'll get those put up the week before. >> Perfect. >> Otherwise, we're locked in and good to go. So, that's the update on Music in the Park. [clears throat] >> How many signs did you get? >> 13. >> Oh, okay. Good. because I got I think it was three along Highway 25 roundabout southside at 30 east and then one um in the middle there and then I've got one for >> by the bank, >> one for right out here by uh by Old Schoolhouse Park where people come in and out. Then I have one for the entrances to all of the subdivisions. >> Cool. Fant. Yeah, great deal. Awesome. All right. Any other discussion on music in the park? >> Who's Who's all going to be able to make it? >> You mean in this room? >> Yes. >> I hope to make it. >> I think I will be out of town. >> That's very disappointing. [laughter] >> I I do believe Well, >> you should have done this. Yeah. >> Yeah. I think I'll be in Michigan. >> Very sad to hear that. >> [laughter] >> That's fine. Um, I will try to make it >> awesome. >> I'll be there. Of course. >> Yep. >> You're the man. >> It's in my calendar. >> Didn't mind too. So is the truth. [laughter] >> All right, moving on. You review park improvement capital improvement plan. All right. So, updating the CIP for uh coming up on 2027. They had gone through our ranking process already. So, I had that printed off in the packet for perusal. I've got the slim down version on there with all the projects we've already done taken out, which was a good share of them we've knocked out in the last couple of couple of years here. And [clears throat] then I highlighted the ones in yellow that were scoring four or above. So, what we're still looking at, we got some uh general uh park park bench in Blue J Park. No, that should be getting taken care of. We did have two I'll bring that up quick. >> Say, didn't we? >> We have two benches going in. One in Westridge and one in Come on. One in Blue J Park. And uh Westridge is now in. So, Westridge being right here, we have this the volleyball court right there. >> And right there we have a garbage can. >> Yep. >> Uh public works uh took out the garbage can, ripped out the concrete, poured new concrete. >> Okay. >> And then replaced there was a memorial bench that was purchased. So, the memorial bench is there with the trash can there. >> Purchase the memorial bench. >> Uh the Lions Club did. >> Oh, fantastic. >> They got two of them. >> Nice. >> So, one went right there. So that was pretty good location because we already have one for Chucky up here. >> Yep. >> Uh so we figured and we have the ones in the park proper where we only have anything on this side. >> Right. >> Great. >> So we [clears throat] felt that was a good location for it. And then the other ones the Lions Club purchased. Man, I'm all over the place. >> Is in Blue J Park. >> Oh, cool. >> Um kind of call this all Blue J Park with the water treatment facility on top. But uh the bench was requested to go down near the car show and where that happens. >> So >> Okay. Nice. >> They I think they poured it today. So if you drive by, you can see the pore form there, but it's going right by the tree here next to the next to this area here. >> Nice. >> So receive a little shade once we get that in. So that one went in at Blue J Park. But if we're looking at any other benches up in this direction, certainly get those added yet this year. >> [clears throat] >> So that's a quick update on that. Uh other high ranking ones on here was west side uh of Blue J Park. So that would be adding sidewalk from here to connect down to the second street location and then this would carry on into the parking lot. >> What about the >> We talked about that for a second. >> A sidewalk in front of the cars there. Was that ever? >> Oh, yeah. We could add a add a segment that goes from say here to here. >> Yeah, >> we could add a se a segment there if you wanted to. It doesn't connect to anywhere. >> No, the whole purpose is what my thought is, it prevents people from going around the back side of the vehicles for kids and stuff like that. They can go on the front side of the vehicles and >> which way they go. But it's just I just prevent someone getting hit type of thing. >> Let's call that 110. >> Would you want to line it up with the one that goes in front of snap so it's a continuation? Do you know what I mean? Or is that too far in? >> There's a slope there. >> Is there? >> Mhm. And it makes sense for mowing lawn just >> connect it to the curb there and then go out. >> There's a big um fence too, isn't there? [clears throat] Or maybe it doesn't go over that far. So, never mind. Disregard. >> And what was the topic on the on the sidewalk on the west side? I I mean, I remember it, but I don't remember where it was led. I thought there was >> I thought it was going to be in front of the >> So, we had a discussion earlier this year on that and I got kicked out because we're looking at concrete here. >> Yeah. And that's what I Okay. >> Concrete is not grandill. >> Yeah. Because we were talking asphalt and then Okay. And that's I just wanted to refresh. I thought that that's what it was, but >> Yep. So that's why I got bumped because we >> because we were hoping to get it in with the grant. >> Yeah. The grant is only asphalt. >> Yeah. So >> So that's going to be 370 update cost. Save. Okay. So with the addition of that uh north side bring about 26ish,000 for that other ones trail lighting in Westridge Park but I think we do want to tie this uh when you would do trail reconstruction and the new segment. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. because we had talked about how how expensive it would be >> otherwise, right? >> And if you decide to change how this looks for whatever reason, >> right? >> You you'd want to then realign the lights with that [clears throat] >> light in the gazebo. I think we're still taking a peek at that for this year. >> Yeah. >> Light pack on that. >> We talked like solar or something. >> Yeah, I was thinking maybe getting a solar panel and see how that works, if it's going to work or not type of thing. So, >> yeah. Okay. For a inexpensive hopefully way to do it versus right >> running a line because >> you could do it when you run the line for the lights and then make a trench from there to the >> Yeah, at that time >> if the solar panel doesn't work out, >> right? >> So, we have options, I guess. >> Yeah. And solar's come a long way. I mean, there's a lot of things that are >> I mean, you see them on all the little weather things by the bridge and stuff like that. >> Flag poles. I mean, people are using flag pole lights and >> they're using them for cameras now for >> Yep. >> the cities. So, >> yeah, >> very good on that. Then we move to Discovery Park. Talked about uh gazebo and trail reconstruction. So, trail reconstruction, you look at the that's the total cost that we're looking at here, 407,000. Um, when we go over, this is another spreadsheet I have that looks at the DNR local trails grant program. Under that program, the DNR pays 75% up to 250. Anything like uh then the city's portion is 25. Anything over 250 becomes the city share. So when we look at the Discovery Park project on that grant share if we were awarded would be 250 and that would leave the city share at about 157 based on estimates and that portion is park only. >> I was going to say that's crazy for just park trails >> but Discovery has a lot >> does have a lot of trails but a lot of trails. Yeah, >> because that's here sweeping all the way through and around and then through to this point and then all the way down this segment, this segment. We're looking at uh when we're look on aside when the city looks at their 2030 street project that we're tenatively looking at this area, Seventh Street up in here, this segment, this segment, and then all field stone is due for a mill overlay. >> Okay. >> And then when we do that work, there will likely be curb correction. Since we have since we have pavers already in town, then we would likely hit this section and this section >> the through section and and then okay >> while we're doing the streets just to refresh the trail at that time. So that's why we don't have to worry about this segment down here or this segment here because the street project would would be tied in with >> that segment of the trail there on the south side. I when I used to mow baffled me. I'm like why do we have this >> right? It it just >> because it goes nowhere, >> right? It's just on the back side of the houses. I'm like, [clears throat] how did this come about? Right. So, I don't know how that came to be or whatever, but >> I don't know. I don't know. But a little bit of insight would be >> when the developer did this, they were told to pave this because let's say this developed >> they thought that was going to develop last. >> Yeah. They they and that's what I think it was, >> right? But also another is let's say this develops next year. Yeah, >> this developer is not going to pay for this trail. >> No, >> they'll pay for this affected portion. >> Got it. >> Yeah. >> Which again will be redundant, >> right? >> Because it's just a trail up of nowhere like you're saying. >> Yeah. >> It's on the outside of a neighborhood. >> So, >> although I guess it keeps them off the street. [clears throat] >> Yeah. >> It's like adjacent bike trail. >> So, if people down here want to jump on here and get the park rather than going up and over >> Yeah. going through the neighborhood if they don't want to do that. Yeah. >> Now, I know at one point the county or the state had talked about putting a trail alongside 25. Has that Have you heard anything? >> The county has talked about in their master planning process. I'm vaguely aware of it. They had inquired to me. >> Okay. >> About the city's propensity for it. I said, "Yeah, keep her in there to eventually hook up northward if the if and when the county ever gets around to it." >> Right. Okay. So that's still because we have the that there. >> Yep. Yeah. There's that short section and then there again it just stopped. [laughter] [snorts] [clears throat] >> Laconia had that for a while. They just recently finished it. >> And we had also talked about um >> the gazebo. >> Gazebo in your >> I would like to see something up there that's covered. Yep. >> Similar to what's in uh Westridge. >> Mhm. >> I'm getting down trail reconstruction in Meadow Park. >> That's a lot. >> That's West Ridge. Myself order here. >> Yeah. And then that's that cost is probably a little low because we're gonna have maybe have to figure out ADA accessibility. >> Yeah. ramping in that area. There's a little bit of it, but I I don't know of it. It may be, it may not be. I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but >> Well, I think right now >> that would have to be reviewed. >> A lot of fun on a wheelchair right now. [clears throat] >> Yeah. >> Get to the park quick in the winter, [laughter] >> right? So that trail reconstruction at 277 less than discovery but again we look at meadow cost on that would be about 70ish,000 with or without modifications for ADA. >> What grant cover for doing the parking lot at all for any of that or no? >> Nope. No, >> just the trail. >> Just the trail. >> We put that one aside. >> See you know to me that seems like a longer trail [clears throat] than than what's up in And maybe I'm completely wrong, but just I know walking through it and stuff, it seems like that's longer than Discovery. >> Feels like it, but it's not. >> Okay. >> Yeah, it feels like it. I mean, when you're walking on it's like you're walking forever. >> I agree. I thought I thought the lengths would be more comparable, but >> they aren't. Okay, >> walk downhill next time. It'll feel shorter. [laughter] >> And then uh Old Schoolhouse Park, I talked about rink boards. for the outdoor rank. So those those are the ones that are ranking higher. They're floating to the top with the fours and fives. And then once those get taken care of, we can continue floating stuff up to the top. [clears throat] >> So the question before park board, you don't necessarily have to make a decision tonight, but looking at this, what's go what's floating out of the fours, which are all of them, what do we want to focus on over the next year for 2027? And then looking at future years as well. >> What's in the worst shape? >> Discovery. >> That's what I was going to ask. And how how long do you do you feel we can push Discovery? I mean, it's we're looking at probably three years or less. >> We're looking at doing patch jobs this fall on Discovery. But if you guys lean in the direction, no, we want to do discovery next year, then I would not patch it cuz if you're going to tear it up and redo it in 6 months, >> y >> nine months, >> doesn't make sense to do patching at this point. Could we put the patching towards meadow then to [clears throat] you know you know make that because the following year's project you know do discovery meadow and then or we got to skip a year >> if you're going to do that um so then it becomes a question of funding y >> what you guys have available >> that was my next question >> yeah thank you I know where I was going I need to see looking at 406 and I'm like, >> "Yep, that's like a three-year budget, it feels like." But I think we have a good amount, but not half a million. >> Is it going to be 160 out of park side? >> Hopefully. >> Yeah. Grant was picked up. >> Yeah. And I guess that would be the other question is if we don't get the grant, do we postpone it? >> You almost have to. >> Yeah, we have to because we would have the money, right? >> Right. So we look at ending fund balance my predict if you don't do patching this year with what the funds are left in the fund at the end of 27 you're looking at 140,000 in the bank so to do discovery you might need you'll need more than what you've got however um like we had had discussions Emily at the city council level the general fund is sitting pretty well on its fund balance so you could do transfers into the park fund to help make up the difference especially if 26 sees a good revenue over expenditure year. Once again, it's a possibility >> if the city wants to do that above other stuff. Yeah. >> Yeah. There's competing interest for [clears throat] that >> surplus amount in the general fund. So, >> I'd like to see it done. I just it's a big price tag. >> So, basically 2027 we would do nothing else except for >> Right. And that's that's my big concern [clears throat] is right. [clears throat] I >> mean, if we can >> if you can patch it, how long is that going to last? >> Yeah. And say we patch it, what do you >> So we just be patching the worst of the worst. >> And >> the rest is not that much better. [laughter] >> I haven't walked it in a while. I need to get up there and walk through there. >> Yeah. um like the worst of the worst relative to Discovery Park. >> So, >> and I hate to kick things down the road because of >> You hate to as well. >> I mean, I think it takes president over rink boards. I think it takes president over park benches. I think I don't know if we necessarily need a sidewalk before we need trails right fixed. So, I mean, some of that, in my own opinion, I'm not speaking for everybody. Um, you know, I wonder would the public rather the [clears throat] trail be redone or a new gazebo? >> Yeah. >> I don't know. I think the trail gets used more than a gazebo would. Just comparing it. Not saying we I don't want a gazebo, too. But if we can put off the other things, >> I mean, if we can't decide tonight, can we >> Yeah, that's >> how do you run it by the council and see if they'd be willing to throw more? >> So, we need like 17,000 more >> more than that. >> Well, if the ending balance is 140, >> we do just the one >> and we get the grant for 250, then we need, >> right? >> We do just the one. I get you. >> Yep. And it could be a circumstance where if you don't if because the grant will be next year in the springtime they solicit for it. We'll do plans and specs over the winter for that. Um this price may change depending on >> cost of material. >> Cost of material plus >> the question then the question will be brought up. It doesn't necessarily mean uh that changes will happen but is this where you want the path? >> Yeah. How do we change it so it's on the other side of the pond? >> I >> other side of that. >> I'm not saying it changes. I'm just saying now that we're looking at repaving it because we're going to tear it up. >> Yeah. >> Not necessarily make major changes, but maybe this loop is a little there's I don't know if there will be many changes, but that'll come up and redesign that may shorten the lineal feet. >> But are you saying we we may not need that full loop up there? I'm saying that if the loop is kind of goofy, >> so maybe just have >> I mean, it's nice, but it's it's Yeah. >> Well, it's a long way to the park. >> It is a long way from that main trail. >> I mean, >> but I bet the neighborhood kids love doing >> Yeah, I'm sure you're right. is going at it. Very high level 30,000 foot view. The design may change a little bit which may reduce the amount of linear footage >> which could end up with some savings. >> Okay. >> I don't foresee it getting longer is where I'm going with it. It might get a little shorter if you make it more efficient. That brings the cost down slightly. So, wasn't going to spur a discussion of what that actually looked like, but a 30,000 foot view. >> And how long does a new trail realistically last? >> 20 30 years. I was just say 20. >> So I to me it makes more sense to pour the money there than other spots. Unless the trail lighting, didn't we discuss trail lighting being important somewhere? >> Uh that was on Westridge, but >> Westridge and that's >> you would tie it when you reconstruct Westridge and then add the new addition or the new segment. That would make the most sense. So to me, out of the yellow items highlighted, [snorts] trail reconstruction seems to make the most sense. >> Are we able to get most of the park board or park benches done this year? >> Uh, we h the park benches in the parks themselves. >> Yeah. >> No, I haven't ordered those yet. >> Okay. Well, that can be done. >> Okay. I'm just saying let's try to get as much as we can done this year >> in the budget we have. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um because like the one that's by Casey's there, is that one part of the park or is that part of the city that takes care of >> streets? Streets takes care of that. Okay. >> Streets takes care of that because that's uh that got tied in with parkboard because you guys chose the new design. >> Okay. So we want to make that uniform throughout the >> but that funding did not come out of this. >> Okay. >> Didn't come out of the park cip. >> But that'll be get getting done as well. >> Those are done. The downtown ones are all done. >> Okay. Cool. >> What is our funding left for this year? >> Uh approximate I got to update that but approximately 38. >> Okay. >> I had to do a quick update of that. Forgot to. And so you could potentially even put in rink boards or something. I don't know how important is that. >> Well, [laughter] okay. So, uh, getting back this So, this calculation of 140 >> Yeah. >> includes your sitting balance right now, >> where we're at right now. >> Gotcha. Okay. >> But if you still have to order benches, are [clears throat] those already taken out? >> Not yet. >> Okay. >> I see. Okay. And how much? So if those are if those are >> 12 >> 12ish. >> And how many were you wanting to get? >> So we're sitting at like 32. >> How many [laughter] closer to like 125 [laughter] at the end? >> We have 38 and we're going to spend 12. >> Yeah. >> So we'll have like 25 left >> roughly. >> Yeah. >> 20. >> What about like tree lighting and all that? Do we still have money? Do we need any money for that kind of stuff? >> Uh, no. That comes out of operations budgets. That comes out of general fund operations for decorating the trees and if you buy tinsel and >> that sort of stuff. >> Okay. >> So, basically after we do benches, we're almost best off saving what's left if we think we're going to >> do trail reconstruction to roll it into the following year. >> Y >> so that we have a little bit more funding. I think if there's a shortfall in the 2027 final amount, >> if that doesn't whatever's left over does not cover the trail reconstruction, assuming successful grant, then I think there's a request to city council that general fund would transfer to make up the difference >> because then that's it. There's nothing else to >> So then 2027 we would not budget gone. Yeah, they'll they'll spend everything >> cuz that's going to sit more at like 125. >> So yeah, you do the trail project >> looks like that, >> right? [laughter] >> We're not going to have very many meetings next year, >> right? >> That's what I'm saying. I mean, that's a little >> We got plenty of of [laughter] events that you guys >> We do have coloring contests to decide on. >> How [laughter] we How are we going to fun that? >> We're going to have to operate. That's That's operating. >> Let's get on a bikini and have a car wash. >> Oh boy. [laughter] >> Mike, you first. >> Oh boy. >> Wow. >> I mean, I suppose if the trail is that bad, I haven't walked it in a while. >> I haven't either. >> The trail bad, >> then that should probably be the priority. >> I would say it's the worst out of all the trails. >> As nice as the other things would be, >> don't take my word for it. Go walk them. We'll go walk. We >> got some nice days here. >> I mean, the only other for me, the only other priority would be the sidewalk here in Blue J. >> What was that, Mike? >> For me, it's the sidewalk in Blue J. >> Just with the school there, >> people getting in and out of the cars, whatever, trying to cross the street, you know, there's right now there's no crosswalk, >> there's no nothing. >> But if we do that, then we're essentially putting off Bluetooth. >> Yes. And and that's what I'm that's what I'm saying for me. That would be the only other one that would be really important >> because if we did the sidewalk then we could maybe do one of the [clears throat] other trails but then we're putting off. >> Right. But then we're right now we're kicking >> the can again. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Which I mean sometimes you have to do you can't afford something you wait till you can. Right. >> So, >> what was the estimated cost for that the sidewalk or either because that was going to be concrete then, wasn't it? 26ish. >> Oh, yeah. That one's [clears throat] not on the budget here. >> 26ish. Um, so this one's probably a little bit more for you, Emily, as a city council member. >> Even though this is within Blue J Park, if if the purpose of this sidewalk is more related to safety crossing at the school, >> city can pick up the general >> might not even be in the parkboard budget. it. You could say that no, this is trails and sidewalks or streets related >> and get that done this way, >> right? >> As another source of funding. >> Yeah. So, let's >> we'll just have to show up at council then, >> right? Put on the pressure. [laughter] I mean, it's a legit ask >> and I think people would be >> I wouldn't suggest it if it wasn't, >> right? And I do think I mean [clears throat] >> we're all parents on the board. I mean we get it. >> Sounds like everybody's leaning towards make discovery. Now go walk it again. This is if you >> right tonight. So >> I mean just looking it on looking at it on paper makes sense to me. >> Yeah. I do highly recommend walking uh uh Meadow and Discovery, but Meadow has cracks in it, but they're all pretty level cracks. >> There's spider, there's alligatoring, but there's not like heaves and bad things like that. >> Discover is a lot of heaving and >> is it >> roots? Roots, wide cracks. >> Yeah. >> More of them, I think. Quantity also >> and it's it's used a lot. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, there's kids running around all the time. >> I don't really go over there. So, >> and Fieldstone is I think a lot of our neighborhoods are getting younger again. >> Oh, for sure. >> Yep. >> For sure. >> We're the old couple now. >> Yeah. Right. So, >> it's really odd. >> Yeah. So, Okay. >> Yeah. National We had a lot of young families here. A lot that I didn't know. It was kind of shocking. >> Okay. Well, it's good. >> Yeah. >> Happy to see some >> younger people in town. So, >> okay. >> All right. All right. >> Sounds good. We just got to remember what Well, you'll put in the notes. [laughter] >> Yep. >> But we decided, >> right, >> I'll open that. >> Um to discussion of downtown banner replacement. We got the one picture. >> Got the one picture that is our existing banners. Uh they were purchased, I don't know, 12, 15 years ago. [cough and clears throat] They're falling apart on us. That's why they're not up right now because we don't have enough to put up. Um >> Oh, wow. >> So, with that, uh we generally work where are they? Work with a company called Display Sales. Uh they do quite a number of cities in Minnesota. Reputable company. And then close out of some of this here. Um right now we put up 17 banners. And this is really hard to see. >> Oh, the red dots. That's really hard to see. Um, we have 35 decorative poles that go from Shimcore all the way up to the roundabout on the north side of town. We only place banners on 17 of those poles. And how that gets assigned is uh it'll kitty corner. This one and then this one. >> Every other down >> every other along this section and then up here it'll go every other kitty cornering. >> And then you get back here and then it goes every other for 17. So there's 35, 17 being approximately half have banners on them and then half have flags on them. Uh so that's our current contingent is 17. Um so at since we're looking at this, that's what we have done. However, there I don't see a reason why we can't decorate all the polls >> on these rather than doing this every other skip. I tried digging into the history of it and I don't know why it maybe it was a cost factor at the time something of that nature doing every other or they decided well we'll do half we do the banners the other half get the flags and they did it >> and I think that was the initial [clears throat] >> and there's no floral arrangement >> I have no problem with half split it >> right or put banners on [clears throat] all of them but maybe like half of them are seasonal banners, >> but now you're purchasing two. I do like the flags. >> We do have two sets of banners. So, we do do the normal banner, then we have seasonal banners as well that go up. >> Yeah, we kind of have some old school looking Christmas ones. >> I feel like if we do all of them the same, that's a lot. >> It's kind of overwhelming. >> Yeah, >> I like them different. I think I [snorts] don't know. Half is >> Yeah, I like a half. There were two that stood out to me for >> the city though to replace and my notebook. >> Did you guys look at them? >> No. All I said was >> there were a lot of them. >> So I liked Welcome Home. >> Oh, was that the house one? >> The pole barn. >> Oh, okay. >> Or the um you have numbers. >> These two. Yeah. 750 and 749. But then um I really liked actually those were the first ones. One called Rivertown. So, if you tell me what page you're on this page >> and then the uh >> three then one of us came prepared. >> Well, like I said, I >> I figured it out after looking at the email a few times. I was like >> text and that's about all I saw. >> All right. >> Yeah. >> So, I liked those two welcome home ones. And you can change the Well, you can't change the color on those. You can change the color on other ones. >> Which Which one were you? >> The two welcome homes I thought were nice. that you look at. >> I'm sorry. Yeah. But then the other one that really stood out to me is called River Town. >> I gotta find it. >> That one I actually I think liked better than those two. >> I was looking at it earlier today and then because I was looking at we only do half and half this, half that. I think you could fit flags and banners on all the polls. I'll double check with public works on that, but you could do all 35, but I think you were right like having all the same is >> Yeah, I agree with >> Yeah. >> So, I was even thinking if you can pick a theme that you want to go with and then you do two, three, four types of banners because you're they're 70 bucks a piece whether you get all of the same or four different kinds. Y >> then you can just stagger that rotation. Yeah. >> Seasonal. >> Oh, I liked rural. Welcome, too. 649. I just thought we were supposed to come with a few we liked, so I wrote down that one. >> Uh, page, hold on, seven, >> but Rivertown is what I'm trying to find. Oh, same page. Rivertown. >> I just kind of want to >> I guess my question is, >> so 554 go down. >> What's wrong with this design if just updated a little bit >> right there? That's Rivertown. And you could change the color the blue on the right. D54 >> like sun crest over it. >> Right. >> So that one or that's the welcome home. >> Welcome home. I'm just going to load them here. >> That one I kind of liked. And you can change the color of that one because to me it seems kind of like us. But >> it's funny you picked that one. This is the last city I work for. >> I recognize all these buildings. you know. >> Um, but then my favorite I think was 554 that one because you could change the color too >> and I just thought [clears throat] that was classy looking. But >> I have no hill to die on with this. Those were just the ones I picked that stood out to me. The other ones seemed kind of >> I mean we're we do have cornfields. The other a lot of them seem patriotic which I'm not against but >> I guess back to my question I I kind of like this. Maybe if it was just updated a little bit. >> Yeah, >> it's simple, right? And it has exactly, you know, our our city statement on it. I mean, everything is >> there. >> Can you customize it then or do you have to pick from here? Because that cuz that look that's all customized. >> I could see about I can ask the company that the the rep that I work with >> because if we were picking from here, then you you have to move away from that, >> right? Exactly. Exactly. I'm just That's just my thoughts. To me, it kind of tells the story. >> So, you can change that to yellow since you guys like yellow. >> And then if you put our logo in there somewhere, you still have the same idea, >> right? If you can't, you know what I mean? You could put our logo like where Minnesota says or >> Yeah. Right here would be the logo. Yeah. These are all very customizable. >> So, but it it just updates a little bit. >> Right. >> So, welcome to mayor and then you'd have the black circle. That's why that one stood out to me because it was simple and it looked professional to me. I don't know because you could put the logo in the middle. But I liked those other two too. with that one. >> I just >> This was nice. You don't even need the logo. [laughter] >> Rising community rather. >> This yellow could, you know, it blends into the yellows here. >> This one? >> No, the Princeton one. >> You think it's too fancy for us? >> Yeah. >> Why? What does that mean? [laughter] Too fancy for us? >> We're a writing community. >> We're not quite there. I feel like we're not quite there yet. >> Oh, I think we are. I think it's very nice. Why not? I don't know. Just my opinion, Emily. >> I mean, as far as fanciness, that's the part I'm like >> I don't think we're not fancy is all I'm saying. >> But >> hey, I know >> they're banners, you guys. So, I don't really >> They're not WA. >> We are not. [laughter] >> This bar's kind of cute. I feel like we're just more rustic maybe. >> So I think start bring consensus around. We're don't have to have decision tonight of course, >> right? >> But sounds like we like So do we like the idea of are we doing half? Are we doing full? If we do full, are we going to be staggering the designs and so it's not just one? Want to get some group consensus on that. That'll help then narrow down what we're looking at. >> I like the idea half like Lauren said. Otherwise, it's kind of overwhelming and it's just kind of right. It's all Yeah. >> So, there's two designs we essentially need to come up with them. >> So, if we're >> But the other ones are just American flags, right? >> So, right. Yeah. So, we do American flags on half the poles and then we do the banners on the other half. >> And I have no problem with that. >> Yeah. If we want to continue doing that, that's perfectly fine. I just saying since we're looking at updating, now's the time to >> That's where he's saying half and half with the different designs. >> So, if [clears throat] we did all 35, then I would say probably choose two or three different designs that coexist together well on a color, >> right? So, they're not all the same exact. >> They're not all the same. All the poles get decorated and they look nice, but it's not one thing throughout. >> So, we split in half. We have flags on 18 17 are >> banners. >> Banners. Are the banners those banners going to be seasonal? So we'll have >> we'll have our mayor banner, but then when it comes to Christmas, are we going to change it to more Christmas themed banner? >> We think we do. So >> yeah, >> this is up most of the year. Christmas rolls around, we swap out to our Christmas banner. >> And those ones are still in good condition. So we don't have to apply up for a couple of months. >> Yeah, I think those are still in good condition. >> Okay. So I'm for that. Yes. I'm for >> half >> half >> continuing on as we currently Yeah. >> current current practice >> like if you can update it, you know, little something to update the existing banner. Yes. >> Okay. That's where I'm at. >> I think I agree with that. [snorts] You know, because there are people at your rep, I'm sure, can put it on the screen and go, "Yep, we can tweak this, give it to graphic designers, and >> yeah, whether it's changing printing or it's changing, you know, >> but if there's any of those designs, >> right? Yeah, >> I think it'd be fun to update that. >> I could modernize and that's what I was saying. Maybe just modernize this, make it up to a date, you know, >> like somebody did it out of their house, >> right? And that's, you know, I've seen some of the stuff Nick's done on some of the other logo stuff and it's pretty cool. [laughter] [snorts] So that's is that direction we want to shift to then? >> Okay. >> Yeah. Do we need to call a vote? >> No. So, I'll take that as consensus direction. I'll work with display sales, come up with some proofs. >> Yeah. >> What that'll look like, bring it to the next meeting. We'd like order. >> Okay. >> That sounds good. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> We could do this hello spring one. 7:23 >> with a cow. Uh >> oh. >> The cow one. What page is that on? >> That is page Oh, what a stupid thing. Four. It wasn't far from the top. There. Right there. [laughter] >> Mayor. >> Yeah. >> Oh my gosh. >> Somebody [clears throat] thought of that one. Well, Foley did apparently. >> That's funny. >> Anyway. >> All right. Should have dehorned the cow though, [laughter] right? All right. Uh, anybody have anything to report? >> One thing I did forget was by the old fire station where the crosswalk is, that one pole is down for the button. Is that getting taken care of? >> Yes, it arrived >> off a fourth, right? It arrived last week. >> Okay. >> And so the guys are going to be that's on their schedule to get that >> I just had a resident here ask about that because she has daycare kids and they walk to the park and stuff like that. >> Okay. >> It's been a long and arduous process to get that >> unfortunately. But >> and the sidewalk by Dollar General, what's been where's that up? >> Uh we had the community meet, well we had the neighborhood meeting with them. Uh all went pretty well. We gathered all the comments. It was myself, Bo, uh, Mike Dodge, and Phil Shrep, our city engineer. We met and we walked the entire length of the project. Every I believe we had darn near all of the residents show up, took [clears throat] all their concerns, thoughts, feedback on it. We have the wetland delineation happening. Did I close that? Yes. Uh, so on the south side on the open lot, we have a wetland delineation that's getting done. and I think they were there yesterday to work on that. So, we'll get the report back in a week or so and then Phil's working on drafting up plans and specifications. >> Nice. >> Incorporating the residents feedback into that. >> Okay. >> But it did sound positive they residents were for it overall. >> Generally, yes. Uh with anything devils in detail. So, once we have plans and specs, and now we're incorporating feedback and design, we're going to have a follow-up meeting with everybody uh because we delineated, well, we put stakes in the ground, you can see where the property line is, [clears throat] but then we're going to come back and put in this is where we're proposing the sidewalk. Everybody come out, take a look. Is everybody okay with this? >> So, um everybody's nodding their head going, "Yep, this looks good." Nice. >> But the residents weren't too the requests weren't too out of the ordinary or >> Nope. >> Too >> Nope. A little bit of land uh landscaping in some areas. Um making sure slopes uh potential looks at retaining walls just with slopes of things. >> Yeah. Away from their house and stuff like that. I understand that >> idea. They wanted it as far away from their houses as possible, but still, you know, minding the ditch and having slope and grade and safe traversal. >> Uh, a a number of trees will come down >> as part of that. Um, some are happy to have them gone, others would like replacements. So, that's perfectly fine. That's normal in a project of this scope. >> And then, uh, once we have the wetland delineation, how that then affects that southern property as connects up. I hate to see trees come down, but that sidewalk is >> well. Well, were some of them ash anyhow? >> So, uh I think a couple were ash, couple there was a pine one in there. Others uh they're just right in the path. They're a little off, but we're going to be cutting on that side. So, you're going to >> you're going to tear roots out and you're going to be >> you're going to hit the main root structure and then it's just going to die three years from now anyway, >> right? But they would get two 2 and a half inch caliber replacement trees of their choosing. Well, we get get a list of proper trees for them to choose from and then >> Perfect. >> Okay. >> We'll have them put in. >> All right. >> Wonderful. >> Anybody have anything else? >> Nope. That' be it. >> All right. With that, I'll look for a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor say I. I. >> Motion carries. >> I gave you a couple seconds. >> I know. I KNOW. I KNOW. I POINTED I'm like when we all do it at the same time.