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April 8, 2025 Park Board Meeting

Mayer City CouncilWednesday, April 9, 2025
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and action. You're the gabble man. All right. Uh it is April 8th, Tuesday at uh approximately 6:34 6:35. Um we can call this meeting to order. Uh we can all rise and say the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Maybe raise that up. What? Yeah. Now you're Now you're lower. There you go. I have short legs. All right. Now that we have the meeting called to order, um, first off, uh, it it, uh, I would like to, uh, say welcome to Lauren. Thank you. Mother-in-law, grandma. Lauren, grandma, uh, happy to have you here. I'm excited to have you here. um you know uh you do a lot of things in the community and I feel this is just another great addition to what we have here. I mean we have some really good people here. Yeah, I'm excited to be a part of it. Awesome. Awesome. So, welcome. Thank you. Does uh anybody have anything that they'd like to add to the agenda this evening? I would like to propose we axe out number 10 discussion on rinkboard purchase option. Kyle and I went to take a look at the ring boards in Chanhass and half of the boards are rotted out and yeah, like I said, I don't know, research. Well, we went and looked at them and the way they cut them up, they did it as best they could, but you'd still need plates to reassemble the whole thing and it'd be such a nightmare to put it back together. Yeah, we can strike that off there. But it was good to take a look and it was good to take it as an option, right? I was hoping to come back with better nudes on cheap rink boards that we could put in. That would have been nice. But yeah, what do we do? Uh, any other additions? Without any, I'll look for a motion to approve the agenda. Make that motion. Second. Second. All in favor? Say I. I. I. Motion carries. All right. Uh, on to last month's agenda approval or the minutes. I went through them. I didn't see anything that except for you know you didn't record my food. Yeah, I try to keep them clean. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Video. Yeah. Uh and if we have no changes or nobody needs to anything change, I'll look for a motion. Motion. Second. All in favor say I. I. All right. On to discussion items. this golf course. Thank you. Mayor Lutheran has officially approved their end of the land use agreement. Yes. So, that is in good order. Uh this is an updated uh Jason Clark continues to work on updating this. He's actually working on getting this GIS mapped into the county software, which would be nice. So, in here you have more detailed on the lengths of the holes. Uh, so you you if you were to look at this a little bit closer, that's the whole number. That's its total length. The number in red is the width of the fairway. We tried to keep that in six foot increments because that's what our mowers are. We want this to be as maintenance friendly as possible. Um, the red line here, that's a snowmobile trail. We wanted to position things that were not interfering too much with the snowmobile trail. Uh the purple area is a kind of a walkaround path of it's not related to the course itself necessarily, but if people want to walk around the property course coincides with that as well. Okay. So that's more of a complete with the disc golf course incorporating the cross country trail in there as well because we want to be mindful of that as well. Otherwise, uh just a more detailed map of it. Um, city council had this as a disc as a discussion item at their last meeting. Our good mayor, uh, we talked about sponsorships, all of that. Uh, the good mayor would like to see us have sponsorships in hand before we proceed with the project. Um uh then he also shared that um he had mentioned something about uh some boards some image boards that were done years ago about CI it seems like CIP planning for the park project or the park uh improvements in general. I wasn't able to find those boards, but the more information I gathered and more more it sound like it was a visualization of what we were here we did any of that the the move stuff around in the parks. He said it was a vision board where you guys just kind of had we just we took little images that were cut out and pasted them on a map of the parks. I don't know if you were here yet at that time. So yeah, it was quite a while ago. I couldn't remember exactly how long attic somewhere or something. Yeah. I like I say, I think that was even that might have even been with Luan. So, that was He said Lan. Yeah. So, um Yeah. And like I say, that wasn't anything in concrete. That was just kind of us figuring out some sort of a plan for the future because we really didn't have anything discussed or anything down that was like, well, you know, what should we have in this park and what, you know, how do we divide some of these things up? So that's kind of what that was was a visual CIP, right? Um and that's a changing document all the time. So yeah, and that's why we have it under the night to start that review process, right? As new ideas come up and others drop off for some reason. We keep this fluid and changing. So it's not just this is set in stone because we set in stone 15 years ago and now we follow it blindly. So, but to his point, it was why are we focusing on this when there was other stuff in the back burner that we aren't addressing, right? Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. He came uh the good mayor mentioned that and I think that's that's where we evaluate each year what the CIP offers. Right. Right. And I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm not I'm not sure what exactly he's hung up on. I mean, like I said, it was kind of it was one of those things the idea came up and it's an easy one to get done. I know what he mentioned was, if I may, if that's okay, that um since the splash pad and everything is kind of coming to a completion that he thought we would maybe take a pause then and go back and readress and relook at the things that were kind of thought about over the years before jumping into another project. And I mean, did you get a chance to speak with the mayor about that? No, I haven't yet. So, we, you know, we didn't vote on it yet. So, it's back here. Okay. To discuss it. I I don't know if if we justify prioritizing it or or not or is that what you're thinking? I don't know. And that's what I want to come back to the board with. Um, brought back with some questions um from the park board. Uh we've been doing work on it. Um I know it's a project you guys have wanted to do, but I don't know if we've actually sent up a unified voice one way or another of this is what we'd want to do or we're okay putting it on the back burner and taking a break and do other stuff. What was his view on sponsorship? Are we was it the 250 annually or a,0001 deal or didn't necessarily they liked both but they just wanted to see a commitment because they didn't know how legit that would that was that if anybody would actually do that. So they wanted us to get kind of feelers out in the community and and and see if anybody would commit now. Yeah. To sponsoring ahead of it. I brought up the question, how do you get people to sponsor if we're not even committed to doing it? Yeah. But, um, they all the council agreed, I think, that it was a doable thing to speak. I guess I would say then we need to get like a a plan like you have there so we can then propose it to the sponsors in town. That would be interesting. So they were we could show we should get a mocka plaque what it would be what size it would be. Um that's a good idea. And what would be your interest? Annual or just one time type of thing. And I know a few people we can talk to in town. I'm sure Mike does. You do. I mean we did tell I feeling I could have it sold in a week but Oh, see. And that's good. I think there's enough people in town here that would do it. I think so. I think there was some a little question over that how committed people would be to doing that. But I mean it's something a lot of people are going to see. Mhm. I mean if the way you're talking I mean frisbee golf is it's been going for 30 years if not longer. That and disc golf or disc golf and pickle ball are the top two recreation sports. Right. Yep. Right. I mean, I like that you brought this out because it'd probably be good to look and make sure we're not missing something that's more important. Yep. So, in last year, we went through a ranking process like this where we had all of these listed. And if there's something that's not on there that we miss, you might take this home and over the the course of the month, you go, "Well, we forgot about this here." Well, we bring those things in and say, "Well, what about doing this in the park?" Add it to the list, figure out where it ought to be prioritized, get cost associated with it, and meld that in with the CIP itself. So, you look at a longterm through here. I didn't print off the whole thing just because it's you won't be able to when you pull on the financial side. I'm trying to plan out stuff towards 2050. Yeah. A little smaller. Right. So, are we going to jump ahead to nine then or do you want to um I'd like to wrap up on We'll wrap up on dis disc golf first. I'm I'm excited about the project. Uh personally, I think uh it gives the community something else to do. um you know, some of the maybe the the older kids or or adults that aren't so much into the splash pad. Um I think we can bring a lot of people hopefully a lot of people into town with some interest in in yeah, having another amenity and then hopefully, you know, visiting some of our our other establishments in town. And yeah, that's what the biggest people come to town and they haven't been here before and go, "Oh, hey, right. brought that exact idea up at city council. I said, I think it potentially could bring revenue to the city because people don't know we're here. People say you're for mayor. I mean, Laconia, because nobody knows where, right? Right. It's gotten better, but it has. Yeah. Right. and and you know in speaking with you know uh Jason and a couple of the other guys that have been working on this I mean they have a vision of of hopefully holding tournaments and you know putting this you know they they they have a there an app or something that they use and they keep scores of all these other places they go and play and it's kind of you know it's like a tournament but yeah I mean and and I I think it can only do do really good things for the community. I mean, I know there's some other projects that we may have. [Music] Uh, but I don't think that any of these other projects are going to bring interest into the city like I I feel this will. Well, this this helps bring money in. I mean, if we have sponsorship, that's why I kind of leaning towards annual because well, then yeah, it'll pay itself off in three years, but then we'd still it will go towards other projects in town, right? The revenue. I mean, is there a way to bring some of this um evidence of the popularity of the sports and what they think? You know, you're talking about Jason talking Oh, yeah. I'm sure. I mean, we could say shows I mean, I'm sure, you know, that we get these guys interested in coming to a council meeting. And I mean, I'm sure that they would. Yeah. You know, I mean, they're pretty avid players. you know, they're playing all the time and and I mean, because I think if it can be shown that that it's going to be something that's lucrative or not even lucrative, but really just gives more face value to mayor or whatever. Um, and like you said, gives people things to do other than the splash pad. I don't have little ones anymore. And that's Yeah, I mean, teenagers and stuff, I mean, they're not going to be interested in splash bed. It's, you know, but it gives them another alternative than just maybe playing basketball or hitting a ball on a ball field. I mean, this gives them another option of maybe something to do without having to get in trouble, right? Which is good, right? I mean, you know, something to do outside. It's a little bit of exercise. It's outside. It's Well, and then to show that it's again going back to CIP that it's a higher priority project then that the other things aren't as pressing, right? Yeah. So, I think that's the mayor's concern. I don't think he was necessarily kaiboshing. He just said, "Yeah, it wasn't against it. Just wasn't sure it was the highest of priorities just because like the things we want to do in Meadow, it just that stuff's going to cost a lot more money. This is something that's Well, it's not. Yeah. And for me, it's not even about the money. It's about, you know, we can build gazeos. We can we can build these other things. But how much service are people going to get out of that? I mean, you're you're now you're limiting yourself to one group. Maybe it's, you know, um whereas this I feel is is something that's broader and a bigger spectrum than just a gazebo at a park. Well, in my opinion too, I mean, I think it's huge that it's partnering essentially, not a full partnership, but with Mayor Lutheran because now you've got a whole bigger community, right? Um, and this that's involved here. Um, because bringing businesses in to help with our city is what we want. And now you've got a huge school that has a huge outreach that they're going to bring people to the disc. I mean, I don't know play disc golf. And I was like, hey, that's pretty great. But who knows what they'll end up doing with it in the future, right? I mean, they may have clubs where they're having tournaments and they're having, you know, all we know could be in an Olympic sport in a few years and then everybody's gonna want to play, you know. And didn't you show too there are other things that we'll be able to do there? You know, you'll have pavilions and things or what were you talking about that potentially in the future for other usage for disc golf? Yeah. Wasn't there something like a I'm not remembering that. Like a a part where they could have there was a little like a like a concrete part where they could put Oh, that so that was up in Discovery Park, I believe. Was that with the pickle ball courts up here? Yeah. And that's just Was that by the disc golf course or No. Yes. So that's by the disc golf course. So that's located right up here. Okay. Yeah. And we we've talked about, you know, there again putting a pavilion or gazebo or something up there. Yeah. Putting a gazebo up here. I mean, and like I say, that's those those are great for shelter and whatever, but we're not going to get anybody into town to sit under a gazebo, right? Unless we're not and that's you're not a lot of times I know growing up in town here that was just a place for all of us to meet and cause trouble. Yeah. You know it was so well it's like Waconia has their I work right across from it. It's pretty. It's cute. It's used at Christmas time and during events nickel dickle but otherwise nobody's in it. Right. Maybe a wedding here and there, but that's I've never seen a wedding out there, but yeah, I performed one. Probably have been. I'm so used to seeing dead people. Yeah. So, yeah. But I can speak from my experience. The first city I worked for, Cami, we put in a nine-hole disc golf course in 2012, 2013, some somewhere around there. And it went gang busters. We had people playing in winter. The school district use it for community ed and student programs. Uh we had tournaments there as part of the community celebration days and then just on its own. Yeah, there were tournaments held there. Well, that's that's what I'm envisioning. I'm you know I'm envisioning this thing getting a lot of use. So I don't get what anybody else's ideas or opinions are. But I mean and I know we're going back and can be is a community that's nine miles from the South Dakota border that was a population of 1,800. Yeah. Good. And I know I'm going back to the CIP, too, but they talked about like the skate parks. I'm like, well, how many people actually use the skate park? I mean, how many There's kids that do, but I was going to say I I see quite a few. I mean, I don't know how to judge it against like the other facilities. It's like Right. Well, against the golf course. Um Well, yeah, that'll I think that'll probably draw more. But I mean, there's when we go to the the park next to the skatepark, I mean, there's almost always a kid or two out there. So I don't know what the threshold is for like you know I thought it died with my but I mean there's kids out there all the time us Gen Xers okay well so then we have to what do we do in order to yeah what what what are next steps I mean what do we do you put feelers out we ask questions I like the idea of having a mockup I would say have a mockup plaque have meet with Jason set up for the next council. So then we have a plaque that if that's enough time if we need two months or whatever it needs to be but this is the prime time to get it done is sooner than later. Absolutely. But then you know have our ducks in a row maybe speak did you speak on to the mayor of what your can be? We've talked about that a bit as well in private. Okay. He knows my experience there. Okay. Um that was just his stance on it. Yep. Right. That's where we're come back to the park board because I don't know if we ever send I know in previous meetings we've all been excited. Well, some of the membership has changed a little bit, but we were all pretty excited. It this came up as an option. Uh Andy and Jason came in and they talked to us about it. Seemed like a fantastic idea. So, bam, we jumped on it. Yeah. Did it jump in front of a bunch of this stuff? Sure did. Okay. But when a good idea crops up, you know, and we've had other ideas that we've looked at. We've looked at archery, which isn't isn't gone. But there again, you're you're you're kind of limiting yourself on who's going to use the archery, you know, and then you have people worried and nervous about letting their, you know, young adults or whatever go out there and and shoot and and, you know, so this is just something that I feel is just It's just an easy recreational thing that can, you know, bring people into town and Well, and I don't think the cost is too high. No, to be honest, for the for the amenity, for the price, I don't think there's anything that beats it, right? Like, as a new as a new amenity, like that's and it's just something we never had thought. I mean, dirt cheap compared to anything else we like I said, I've never played disc golf. I'm excited to try it. I I never would have thought of it on my own. Y I've seen people walking around Crown, not even playing, walking with people that are playing and like, "Oh, that's pretty. That's fun." Well, yeah, we actually we've been talking this in the board for about six months. The mayor does doesn't know we talked about it for six months. So, yeah. So, he's like, "Yeah." So, I personally would like to pursue it. I don't know if anybody has any other feelings on it, but I Yeah. I mean that's just something I feel that we can so coming in late u is there just there mayor just basically asked a question uh kind of where did this come from type of thing or you know let's make sure we want to do this before we do it yeah that was basically the feeling um it came up quick I was looking at minutes it was about a year ago in April when we what a year ago yeah it was April when Andy first came in and just mentioned the idea to us at the meeting so it's relatively new and we've been working on it and I think it's just that we've had all this other stuff in the mix and now this is jumping the line to get to the front. So there might be I haven't talked to him so careful what I go assuming his thought processes are on camera but for me if I have a good idea that crops up it can jump the line if it's a really good idea. Well, and mention possibly taking a pause because we had just finished. Sure. Another big project. Sure. I'm also a foot on the gas type of project first and it's like, yeah, bam, bam, bam, let's Right. go. My thought is if one we had a a vocal, you know, someone come in and actually speak to it, which we don't really have for almost anything. And so like that that gives right for me like puts weight on it. Well, it's like, oh, there's enough appetite for someone to come speak about it. Also, if as long as we're not uh I think as long as we're not um jeopardizing our ability to maintain anything that we currently have, I don't see a reason to pause unless there was something we really really wanted to do that we were then having to like push off. and and on our list like I don't I mean aside from in my the only the only thing in my mind that I would I personally would like to see is some sort of uh you know other use on the back side of Westridge but I don't have a personal opinion of what that should be or like and we've kept a lot of things around there and it's like well well they did bring up the parking lot too the possible parking lot by the park by the donut donut metal Mhm. Um, which I I thought about this after the fact to be fair, but we're going to probably be having construction on a Dollar General on that intersection. I don't know. That seems like a pretty big project to undertake. Isn't that right across the street? Kitty corner. Yeah. So, we had talked about entrance up around the fifth streetish area is one of the possible ones. We go straight through. Yeah, that's what we had talked about. straight through because we've got rightway here in between the two properties. Possibly in here into parking here. So, relatively speaking, Oops, wrong one. That's the Dollar General lot right there. Yeah. Or that's a potential entrance. Okay. So, it's a little further down. That would be the only real option. I mean, I don't think the one on the other end, Sixth Street, maybe you'd have to move the sock, you'd have to do some a lot of stuff. Yeah. How was there, Let me just ask because, you know, new to the park. Um, when did this come up? Was there a big demand for it when it first came up that people wanted more parking options over there? There wasn't really it was an idea that we discussed because there isn't a real access to that park. Yeah. Right. So, that was something that we Nobody came and asked about it. I don't think we've ever brought it up at any of our events. Um it was just something that we had kind of looked at and said, "Well, some parking back there would be nice." Okay. Um the issue with the parking is the way ordinances are set. It's got to be asphalt. Mhm. or concrete. It's got, you know, there's so many measures that we're we're not talking a cheap project, right? I mean, this is not something that's just, you know, throw some gravel down and call it a day. This is I mean, that's we got to do sewer. Is is the trails is the trail from me compliant or is that getting updated as part of the trails project? Oh, yeah. Coming down from me. So, I've got I've got those caught. We're dabbling in number. That's fine. We can bounce a little bit. But in Meadow Park on the CIP, the parking lot itself is about 60 grand for 15 stalls. The trail reconstruction is about 70,000 69,000. So I was just kind of wondering like, you know, Westridge doesn't have anything more than that. It's very equivalent like the distance you're walking from Meadow down to the park because you got to park up here to really access. Yeah. But that's about the same you're doing in Westridge. Like you there's not anything better in Westridge like you're parking along the street along the alley. Yeah, we put that parking on in in the alley there. So my question is do we actually need to provide parking versus just like street parking you know like a community park like you probably you you already have to do the trail reconstruction like that's kind of a needed. So like do we have to do addition more additional parking than is available in the along the street there versus or is it just because it's less visible, right? Because we when my kids were little never went to the park or are we trying to encourage use of the soccer field? We don't go there a lot because we we you know didn't know how to get in there for one. It just wasn't on our radar. We always went to the other parks that were easy accessible. But that being said, we didn't necessarily drive to them. We we walked by. Yeah. So, I don't know the demand for a parking area. Granted, it's really great here because you've got all the stuff, but I I think I remember us talking about it was like about trying to promote use of the soccer fields. Oh, okay. For that was the reason. I've been approached that people would like to rent the field for their soccer field. I see. Okay. Okay. I was wondering what the draw I was just curious what that neighborhood would think if you're adding Yeah. between the properties now. Well, yeah, the properties and then there's, you know, the homes that are kind of around that that meadow area there. Same thing. The uh I I just don't know if they if were there feelers put out about any of it at the time? No, not that I know of. I don't think anybody I know it's still devil's advocate. Parking in parks is a normal thing. It is. So, it is. If they don't like it, well, every park, nearly every park I've ever been to has parking. Yeah, true. With residential around it. So, it's not a new concept. True. If they don't like it, maybe can put up some shrubbery to help stop the headlights. But how do you fence? Yeah, I think it's prioritizing. And again, we're going to have to go back to and that's what I'll get back to is yeah, a parking lot would be nice there, but you weigh that against something like a disc golf course. I'm in disc golf course territory for a third of the co cost that potentially could bring and it's a new amenity and like it's there's nothing currently impeding re actually impeding anyone's use of that at the moment. Correct. So, it's like, yes, that's a nice thing, but it'd be also be nice to have a whole new entity for a lot less money. Well, and all the things we talked about bringing the revenue to the city, partnering with the school. I don't know, the potential there, I think, is a lot bigger than parking spaces for I agree. I I I would love to see a parking lot there. I mean, we've talked about that for quite a while, but I I just don't see the urgent importance to me. I if we could go that area needs more planned a long time ago, but in my opinion too, that area almost needs a little bit more planning. I personally would like to see like I don't know. I'm assuming we've done this before, but you know, we have a lot of space there. We have a lot of space in Westridge. We have a lot of space in the what we affectionately refer to as the swamp. I would I mean I'd be open to Is that whatever's on the end of Fourth Street? Oh no. At that that end of Forest Street the swamp down by you. Yeah. Swamp behind Mayor Luther there. Yeah. So, I mean, I almost would like that I'm I'd be open to or interested in pursuing like a potential like consultant where you hire, you know, like a group who does park planning or something like that and be like, "These are the spaces we have. Like, can we get some ideas or something like that?" Because it's I mean, it would just suck to do something with one of these large spaces and then be like, "Oh, man. It really would have been nice if we would have done that." But we didn't think about it. Um I don't know. I don't know. Well, that's what I mean by never done that or I feel like it needs more planning and so this is something disc golf's ready to go. Yeah. So it's jumped ahead. Yeah. But it doesn't require a lot architects. We didn't have to hire nobody was hired. They was all volunteered. That's another 20 grand right there. Right. and and you know, we've got Mayor Lutheran agreeing to to you know, assist kind of with the property. That is a huge thing. I I think you can't look the property in the face. like they're willing to let us just use that basically for a well it's you know handshake agreement basically he mows their lawn and they don't have to pay for mowing lawn themselves and then we get to use the propert where are we going to find that chunk of land for that and it's like right free everybody sees it when he go it's on 25 it's like oh look at that so you guys are all coming to city council then right absolutely I really feel like they need to hear all this because I I do believe like the city council. That's why I was like, "Oh, shoot. I want to talk about this." But, right. No, I I and and that's, you know, I think it's a fair question. We've done that with other stuff. Absolutely. Well, we we talked about it with the pavilion last time where it was there was some, you know, wanted to make sure this is what we wanted to do. Yep. Well, I even said at city council, I said to his comment, I said, "Well, I'd like to see that other list." And here it is. Thank you. of of things that are pressing, you know, and seeing these things. Some of these things have been on the list since good gracious, you know, 2007 or eight when I started on here or getting doesn't mean we can't start planning for some of these other things because the other things are going to require time, right? And every year these things have been moved around and shifted from year to year to year. What makes more sense now than it did back then? What we've taken stuff off. What doesn't make sense? The timing and everything just seems really right for the disc golf. In my opinion, I think you can't you can't say no when when the school's willing to partner with us like that. What do you think? New new park board member. Um I definitely think it's a good idea. I mean, yeah, older kids and adults and yeah, if the school's going to let us use it, then I think that it would be a good addition for sure. Where what town has is closest to us that has a disc golf course? Is there one? Water town has one college. Yeah, there a handful around us, but this adds another dis. Golf players like to go to different courses because if they just play the same one over and over again, it gets boring. I like golfers. Yeah, they like to have their choices and mosy around. And this will be another one that gets put in the rotation and hopefully one day we have, like I said, have tournaments here. Yeah. Qualifiers for other things. That's what we're designing the standard to. Yeah. I mean, you know, school uses it. That's the thing is the biggest thing is you're designing it to have tournaments. You're not just willingly throwing it out there. Throwing it out there come too and speak on his knowledge on it too and how it's being I mean to show how I mean to me it's so well planned out. It's the group did an excellent job. Yeah. Yeah. They've got I know that the guys have gone out there and they've thrown it. They've changed it. They've thrown it. They've changed it again. They've gone out and thrown it. They've they've I mean they've worked hard on this and I budget from one of the major disc golf companies. They have sent over a former professional disc golfer to look at our course, walk it with us. So, there's been quite a bit of thought put into it. It's just not slap down here. This works, right? Yeah. I think that should all be presented. It's been professionally reviewed. Mhm. Was this something like obviously you have to get the funding, but was this something you hopefully wanted to start right away or is this something like what you did with the splash pad when the park board came to the city festival and you asked people's opinions on what they wanted like just to put feelers out for we talked about doing that actually. So my counter to this is nobody seems to push back when we say pickle ball. Why? Right. Exactly. Nobody asked for the word is everywhere. Nobody asked for feelers on pickle ball and now disc golf as up there number one number two recreation sport is suddenly under the microscope. And like I say we've had a lot why that and not pickle ball. And it's not like we don't have another one. Like we've got the baseball fields, we've got soccer, we've got ice rink. Well potential ice rink. We've got and that's 300 grand to make that very um we've got the basketball and all these other things. This is one more outdoor thing. And we're still doing the pickle ball in the ex, right? We're going to stripe them. But we did talk about having it at the festival that you do too is um having a little booth with Yeah, we had you know I called them frisbees but was quickly was quickly correct corrected discs. I probably would have called them a frisbee. Yeah, they probably would be frisbees at the the festival, but yeah. But yeah, having my own experience done one of these projects before and witnessed how popular it was and I know it's still as popular as it has ever been, if not more. Uh, I know it'll be good. I think a lot of the stuff being bringing people to town, I mean that that's all good stuff, but in my mind the primary is and we probably all feel it. This is going to be great for our own residents, for our community. I I agree. just for mayor as a whole, I think. Everything else is icing and cherries on top. Yep. Try something new that they haven't tried because it's right in your backyard. Well, and maybe then you'll need the bike racks because people will be st stopping. That's right. Putting their bike somewhere. That is right. A motion or I don't I don't Yeah. So, what is it that we need a motion? I don't think we need a motion. Is there something to motion? There's nothing to motion. Um, I guess I want to make sure the board's wishes and desires to see this done are expressed. I think we're reiterating our support for the project and we'd love to come talk to council about it if they if they'd like to hear it. And reaffirming that it's the right time, but at the same time, so we need to be there, Jason or whoever needs to be there. And then if we could have a mockup plaque there to show what it would look for the sponsorship. So that way we're all, you know, we get this done in a more quick expedited as soon as we can. I'm kidding. But next council meeting will be the one or the one after that. Days from now. So I was going to say maybe in on Monday. Yeah. Yeah. So the one after. Yes. Yeah. Oh, this coming Monday. Yeah. Yeah. The one after that. I mean, I'll be there, but unless you want it. We're Whoa. All of a sudden, gone ho. Oh, we can wait three weeks. No, I'm just saying. I mean, I I don't know if we can get everything pulled together. I'm thinking that's going to plan for Monday. Okay. And I will work on getting that mockup tag board. Put it on a tag board. Yeah. Yep. You know, your 3x4, 2 by3, whatever we're thinking. Are we thinking? What size are you thinking? up on an easel. Well, I can send this out, too. Yeah, I would do that. In fact, that better than what we saw the last council meeting because it it's even more if you want to reach out to Jason or if you want me to reach out to Jason, whatever. I mean, I've got I've got a text message group with the Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, please inform them and and get them all on board and Yeah. I think we really need to um reiterate the timing, especially because you guys saw this one. Yep. That was the original plan. And see, that's what we saw. Yep. That's what you saw. Uh, this one was as of the the 31st post that council meeting. What's the dark red line? Oh, yeah. So, the red line is a snowmobile trail. Oh, okay. The purple line is a walking path throughout the course that also incorporates the cross country. Nice. Path. What's the dotted blue line? Dotted blue lines are the walking paths between holes. That's what I thought. Okay. the cross country. Is that open to the Does not use that field for soccer anymore? No, not really. That's what that big rectangle is. Yep. Yeah. And she doesn't know that they offered it to us or to let us use it as long as we mow it. That was it. Essentially, we we mowed the soccer field and they'll let us because this is all their property. And there was something if they they have a certain amount of period. Yeah. That there's a six-month period that if let's say somebody comes in and they want to develop that property. Sure. They have to give us six months notice and then we just tear everything out. Sure. No. Yeah. So really there weren't a lot of stipulations other than that. It's not like we're purchasing the land. We're not doing you know. So then we're just out concrete per se. We still have the baskets. We have the stuff when we can move it somewhere else. Right. Right. So I mean we got to look at that too. I mean yeah. Okay. But realistically what are the odds of this developing? Right. It's going to be we got a lot of other area that's ready to go kind of prepped and ready for development as well whether or not the school does something but yeah that's going to be long term I think the school they would have said something if they had something on the books I'm sure yeah right now but I'm saying like 10 15 years yeah well if this lasts 1015 years I think paid for itself it's like three times and it's good for the school I mean you've got one of these right next to Crown College it's good for the school Yep. It just is. Yeah. Instead of see the kids hanging out in school, they can just walk out and do a few holes and come back to school, right? They can do open hours and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. They got open hour, you know, lunch hour and different things. They have blocked normally at 6:30, too. Monday nights. They're mayor nights. Yeah. Uh council Monday 6:30. Yeah. Okay. All right, Monday night splash pad. Let's plan on it. Uh splash pad update much shorter. Uh next two, three weeks they should be back to do concrete. They pressure tested the lines last week. Uh they found a couple of small leaks. Those have been repaired. Uh this I think next week they will be back to doing the back filling on some of the areas. Okay. Getting that all graded up. Two, three weeks concrete install it. Once that's So once that's done, installation of features, they'll be working on the equipment room, getting all that wired up. Um the the plans are at the Department of Health. They've been approved. We just need to line up inspection once it's all done. Okay. So that's all good raring to go. Then our plan is the trail was approved. Uh all segments were approved to be constructed. Okay. The idea is we're going to try to align that to come in right at it's going to piggy back right off the end of the splash pad. So splash pad's done. Concrete poured trail start going in. As soon as that's done, we're hydro seating the whole area. Good. So by festival it's hopefully beautiful. When is the splash hydro fertilizer is green anyway. They have a tenative opening for June should be done in May. So, we have a uh uh grand opening is June 7th. June 7th. Okay. We'll likely be open before that, but the grand opening will be June 7th. Awesome. Is the plan for that. And then the trail and seating should be ready by July 12th. Oh, seating is part of the splash pad. Okay. So, that's being installed with the splash pad. Okay. Trail should be piggybacking right on. We're going to try to align that as best as possible. Engineer and I spoke yesterday. We're learning trying to line up the pre-construction meeting with the company to make sure we have everything in play on that. Yeah. So, keep your people off our lawn. We'll likely have snow fence around because the grass won't be established yet. We're going to have snow fence around to keep the kids from running out back in. So, they're hydro seating up by the pavilion, the new pavilion. Okay. Get grass established. Right now, out front, we have a bunch of rock and gravel. Yeah. beyond the asphalt. All that's coming out. We're putting it in a black dirt hydro seeding that. Okay. We'll make decisions on future parking in the future. That'll be great. Oh, then we have to plant some trees, too. Yep. Cool. It's going to be beautiful. Mhm. They would have looked over. It's been a long time coming. That's the splash pad update. Easy one there. Okay, next. Music in the park. Yeah, music in the park. Yeah, but where we where are we at with that? Uh, we're just starting the talks. Okay, that's what I I don't remember talking about this. Well, we had talked about making sure Mike was available and we had talked about we like to get So, this is in September. I don't know if we wanted to change that date at all. I know there was talks about potentially changing it, but fire department 125th is on September 20th. Uh, Music in the Park would normally land on September 27th this year, that Saturday. So, it' be a week after the 125th. Can't go any further than that. It potentially get pretty cold after that. We had one year where it was like 90 something degrees and Oh, it was un Yeah, we've had two years that were pretty, but it was it was a lot better having it in the pavilion area this last year. So, last year we had Michael Handler as the music. Uh, Lions did food, baseball club was there, cookie store. We had an ice cream truck last minute which was awesome. Uh, what else did we have? Do we have anything else? The horse. The horses pony rides for food. The pony rides. Pony rides aren't food. No, they're not. I mean, some countries, but somebody needs dinner. Uh, for entertainment, we had pony rides, we had bounce houses, we had archery range. Those three things, those three things seem to go over really well. Yeah, that was good size. I don't know how much bigger we actually want to make things. That seemed good. That sounds pretty good to me. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good turnout last year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless there major changes, I'll start lining all of that up once again. If anybody thinks of anything, feel free to shoot an email on it. This would be a great idea for food option or an entertainment. So, baseball club, we no longer have Grimshaw. We don't we don't have insurance for liquor because we don't have a team to provide liquor for. So drop the ball. Um so we may need to look for another option if we are looking to have somebody provide gotcha. Adult beverages. Can one of the bars in town like do it? Unless they have a cater if they have a caterer's license. Yes. Yes. So um that would be Do either of them have it? Knuckleheads does. Oh, well, no. Knuckleheads does not. Sorry. But we're They can serve up at the community center. The way state law works, we're allowed to authorize them up at the community center, but not anywhere else. It's only 100 ft that way. Isn't it part of the community center off the corn? We can set them up right. What if we have like a little paperier-mâché tunnel like And doesn't do catering. Yes, he does. Hel does. Oh, so they could. Health could. Okay. Helps does. Yeah. What do they cater? Does he don't have any food? He does events up here. He just did um what was your not not uh not the fish fry, but before that was a big thing. Um not gun club. It was something. Bango he catered for. Well, yeah. Mike, do they don't have a kitchen there, do they? No, they bring it in warmers. Oh, okay. Hey, we have a kitchen, but it's not a commercial kitchen. No, no, I mean Hel doesn't have a kitchen. No, doesn't have a kitchen. Can we get That's what I was wondering. They serve pizza. I was going to say they like they have frozen pizza. Maybe they just bring in pizzas like he caters. I hear I'm not asking questions, I guess, then. Well, I mean, could we ask if they'd be interested in It's possible what I don't who knows what her plan is with the Mexican if they're going to do any catering or not either. Well, we talked about they haven't indicated they're going to do catering, but if they are, great. But I haven't heard anything on that front. I think they're just still getting their feet under them. Okay. With what they're doing so far. So, September 27th, that would be the date. Michael Handler for music again or he was good. Yeah, he's he's great. Um, and then back to the CIP. Yeah, I don't know if we need any other stuff for for food or I mean, if anybody knows anybody with a food truck that would maybe want to be invited or There are a lot of food trucks around here now, but Right. And like I mean, I'm sure you've been in contact with a lot, right? No, not you. Oh, everybody. We tend to use Well, we use the Lions and we use the fire department mainly and then we try and bring in like one other food truck because we want the Lions and the fire department to be able to they just pay us 10% of what they bring in and they get to keep the rest. I got you. So, cuz like Elephant Joe's has been Elephant Joe's does come. Yes. Um, and then we had um the Mexican taco truck that sets up a colony. Can he just show up? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was there was a little bit of a misunderstanding. Um, and then there's the um that the is it the Guda one that always goes up to Maryland's room? Guda Q. Yeah. I Yep. I've never spoken with them. Um, sweet winks though. We want someone local. Um, he's associated with Mayor Lutheran. So, and I'm fine with just sticking with maybe a dessert truck or two like we have and then letting Lions serve hot dogs or whatever burgers, whatever they decide to serve. I'm I'm perfectly fine with that, too. I don't know if you keep it simple, right? Yeah. I'm just throwing out ideas. I mean, if there's an influx of another 100 people plus and there's lines everywhere, then we'll discuss it next year and go, "All right, we need to get another couple." Good idea. Yeah, let's let's let them make their So, good. Yay. All right. Capital improvement plan, CIP. Pretty much gone through that already. We kind of have. So, every year as part of our CIP planning process, we do it for all the uh other major funds that the city has. Um, this is what we've got in the listing so far. If anybody has any ideas, jot them down on the back. We can This is a living document. This is our document. We don't pay consultants to put this together for us. So, this lives and breathes and grows and shrinks as we want it to to suit the needs of our community. Uh we've got it split up into the departments which are by parks. Um that's what we've got listed for anything there. Everything there. I've got costs associated with most of those things. Was able to pull a lot of that together. But then it's rank ordering what we feel the highest priorities are. So it doesn't need to be we don't need to rank order necessarily right now, but giving it a piece of paper. Take it home. That's nice. Start scribbling on it. So you can see up on on here there's uh some shaded in lines. Um it cost money to print in color and I simply didn't deem this worthy enough to spend money on. So um how this looks actually you have the gray one the gray up top is actually yellow highlighted. I have those grouped together as far as notes because that's more of the trail reconstruction, the paving because we're potentially looking at a 2030 street project. So, critical mass, you already have people with equipment in town doing that sort of work. It might make sense to wrap that in as part of those projects. Just trying to think into the future. Uh the bottom one is the OS old schoolhouse park baseball field improvements and rehab. Since the baseball team is no longer uh in in form or function that probably dropping off the list or much lower. Yeah. What was that? If you build it, right? Right. Yeah. If we build it, somebody may get them to come. I don't know. Um, is there any safety concerns with the dugouts and stuff like that though? Like currently? Yeah, currently. They're questionable. I mean, like I mean they are questionable like they would collapse or something or I don't I don't think they're that bad off but I mean they're they're they're on the best issue. Yeah, they're Yeah. So I mean in the next five years we should maybe I it probably is something that Yeah, dugouts probably should be looked at. Um, you know, depending on how much Mayor Lutheran or or whatever baseball, you know, desires to use it. I mean, they're using it right now. The field Yeah, the field could use some leveling. Yeah. Do they pay to use the field? No. You know, so yeah, the field could use some leveling. uh pitchers mound, you know, the infield stuff is is pretty, you know, it it needs it needs to be redone. Is there to do do it and phase it? So, if we did dugouts and did the field work, just do that for now. I I think it would be a good playable field for for a lot of different things. Okay. How costly is something like that? Dugouts and pitching mountains. I don't know if I'd go with concrete dugouts again. I kind of like what Watertown did with theirs, you know, and some of the other ones with the just a steel sided structure. Oh, yeah. You know, they're cost effective. They're easy to maintain. Um concrete can kind of, you know, that we all know how concrete can be, especially when it's suspended, you know, whatever. Um I don't know. What do you What do you Well, I mean, that way if we do metal, we can put some color to it. It's just not just a right concrete gray and kind of boring, you know. I mean, but as far as cost, what would you kind of with with your experience roughly guess? I mean, look at 20 grand. Yeah. 20 grand something like that between the two of them. Yeah. And whether or not we did a seat plus removal. Unless we, you know, if you do a pole porn frame type of thing, well, maybe we do we put a deck up there just as a, you know, and that, and that's a question, too. I mean, do we plan on for kids that there? I don't know if it'd be annoying for the players or not. Someone being up there. Well, no, there's lots of lots of them that have decks above their dugouts. And I mean, that's the new thing now is everybody's got a deck. I think make it modular. Yeah, modular. Yep. Start with the dugouts knowing that these dugouts are made potentially to y be expanded incorporated. Yeah, for sure. But but you're saying that's not that's super pressing right now. As of this moment, I don't believe it is. Within five years, we need to rethink and re prioritize the base project. Yes. Like 2030 timeline. Something like that. Something. Yeah. 30 30 to $50,000 for you know, you know, some rehab. Basically, those are deteriorating unless all of a sudden we would have something that would look public works would be able to do the removals on it. We've got the payloaders and whatnot. Yeah. So, so I'm penciling in 50k for baseball rehab. Yeah. Inflation, but it should be realistic. I mean, for me, the biggest one on on on this list that I would like to see sooner than later is some of the lighting in in some of the parks. Um, I know Westridge gets a lot of night use. I don't know. I I mean, I know you would know that, right? And and and I know not all of it is Would that be annoying to have the light? I Is it plum for schedule 40 and just have to run wire to it or what? There's nothing there. Oh, nothing there. So, even if we just put like we could put a little solar thing in there. And that's my thing. Yeah. Just something to get something in there to kind of deter just the kids from Yeah. Put an emotion like type of thing in there. We could we could spend $300 and put something Y like agreed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's already people out there like I right and I know I mean I know that from what we found in the parks when we go to clean them and stuff. I I know that there's people out there doing things that they probably shouldn't be doing if they're prince but um you know do you want me to look talk to people or do you have talk of people or does Kyle and that's something we could do in conjunction again it's not like this other one's going to eat up our the disc golf is not going to eat up our whole budget. We got room, right? For others. There's not power really in that park at all, is there? Runs behind it. What's behind it? Power runs through the back the alleyway be Oh, between the park and your house. Yeah. And I believe power runs through the back there. Between my backyard and the park. Oh, no. No. Dig where those arboritas are. Yes. But well, no. It's probably in my in my in my yard. My ar doesn't go as far as it looks like on either side. So, how much does it cost a knife and your foot these days? I don't even know what it cost to to do that. And that's what I was wondering. I can ask I know two people I can ask. Okay. It's kind of pain to you just have to go under. I mean, you could you could under the trail. Yeah. It wouldn't be that's not Yeah, that's the least of our worries is is the trail. It's trail. Yeah. I like I say I I to me that that's a big one. So that was lighting West you said. Yeah. Okay. Eric, you go under the right part of that trail, nobody noticed anyway. Yeah. Right. That's what I was thinking like especially over there is that find the crack and just um you know and we're always in need of bike racks. Um you know we've talked about benches at at the at the basketball courts. We've talked about, like I say, these things kind of they kind of move and and evolve as they can, right? Um, you know, we we we had a lot of conversation a few years back about bench donations, and I think we've only had the one, right? You know, somebody donating a bench for a park. Oh. And I think I think the only one that I know of is the one that was donated for Chucky Island up there. Um I you know so what do we do? We put that I mean right and there again I mean is that something that we try and and put more emphasis on to to take some of these the benches and stuff off of you know uh off the list. Um next flyer advertise it and I mean it one of those things you put in the flyer every month and get one or two a year maybe. I don't know. So, like I say, a lot of this stuff I feel just kind of it just kind of bends and flows as as as we see that we have the money or or we see that there's a need for it. I believe that then we kind of go to put it in. But yeah, you kind of have to like separate out like all right, where are what are our big projects, right? Well, I see that dog park. Then you just spread out the rest of them. when you're talking about a big project. I see the dog park and I know you kind of mentioned that when I first came on and I'm Is there a huge I mean I have three dogs. I don't need a dog park. Is there a huge demand for it? I don't know. We there again that was something that somebody brought up years ago that that hey, maybe we should, you know, think about putting a dog park in. Okay, where do we put it? And we've gone over and over Meadow to Westridge to I mean we've tried to come up with locations. There's just no real good place for a dog park. I think Well, that's why we were thinking about the river spot, right? Yeah. We talked about, you know, potentially potentially if if you know if that worked out. Yeah. So, so again, it's not something that's pressing was my point. It's just kind of a thought, right? It's it's a that's where we want you to rank order this stuff. Everybody feels dog park. It's like it's the low priority, but maybe one day when it makes sense. Yeah. To me, a new park in Cold Water would be make more sense because we don't have a park over there. But then again, we're not lacking of parks in the city either. Do you know? So, but Cold Water, I was promised one when I moved in when the market crashed and you know, 18 years ago and they never put one in. So, so we did just fine. Didn't go forward. Just fine with no work. for park park and cold water to touch on that real quick. Yeah, this is the ninth though will be the ninth edition eighth is right over here. You can see kind of the pre-graded that'll go there. Y I think right here is where the park should go. Kind of an entrance to that neighborhood from that side. See, and initially I think they talked that it was going to be over by the man-made lake that they talked about and then they kind of drained that and I don't know what happened to that, but it's over by Nasis. They were going to have a man-made lake. And I was going to say all those are man-made lakes. We dug all those. I know. But that's why Well, so when we moved in, we were the only like the gravel. Yeah. It was more water back there. We swam in all those ponds. They said it was going to be like a swimming one with No, it could have been just a developer trying to get us to buy the That could have been That's exactly what it was. But he said there was going to be a park over there is what he said. But I see what you're saying. I mean there it's all grown up now. So it would make more sense to have it there. This is a good distance between parks. Vertically it's in that heart. And then this land that's developable. This is developable. You get out in here, it's developable still before you hit flood plane and some wetlands. But there's still plenty of land this way that could still be cold water. Um It could be. So, you're probably looking at a park. Well, Jude's Park would be nice. Jude's Park here. Jude's good proximity between these two as that is too, right? I've seen some really creative uses um of low-lying areas, whether it be flood plane or sometimes you have like storm water ponds that are just dry and you just use their you have them set up as uh like fields like you could play, you know, football or catch out there or whatever and then when it floods it floods and then when it drains it's you can use it again. But again, a future park that's $200,000. Yeah. Plus. But so those end up be So how does educate me um with these developments going in like they pay park dedication fees like when they develop or when they plat or how does that how does that work? Part of the platting process when they start the the whole the the pl the pre-plat process there are park dedication fees. So they have the option of building the park or paying a dollar amount instead of putting in a park. Sure. So if they if they they're like, "All right, we have this they that's currently platted as an outlot, I'm assuming, right now." So when they come and they draw up all where the homes are going to go and the street and all that, they come back to the city and they want to plat it and they if they come with no park drawn up, they pay park dedication fees or we tell them you're doing a park or we're not approving your plat. Yes. Yeah. We ultimately have the control. So, if they paid park dedication fees, does that big chunk of money just show up in the park fund? Like, how does that work? I don't know because I don't know when the last time a park dedication fee was paid. Yeah. They just I don't know if we've ever gotten those fees. I don't put in the park. Don't know. Yeah. Or or you know, or the city ate them. I think I it might have just went to general. I I don't know. Well, that's junk if it happens. I mean, I think it was also a time when CIP wasn't really had we weren't funding it like we are now. Yeah. Now we're I'm hoping I'm not speaking too early before city council here, but my Okay, I'll phrase my recommendation for 2026 is that we go up to 100,000 a year for park in CIP because we right there, right? Get some good stuff done. Absolutely. It's been It was 50 for a while, 75. This year was bumped up because they're uh balancing the budget on that, but I think going up to 100 would be good. Just from my perspective, seeing all the funds and how the tax rates are moving and all that, that 30,000 foot view, 100,000 makes sense. especially with what we're looking at for doing and if the day comes you know five 10 years down the road where the park is do parks are doing great we really don't have that many projects things are going great well you tone down the CIP then the amount you give to parks the idea is you have this planning document that helps guide you on that whole thing so you're not overfunded or underfunded you're doing what you need to do when the appropriate times to do it I see a playground equipment replacement on here is there equipment out there that's really needing that. How how high is metal the next one that playground equipment itself generally lasts 15 to 20 years, right? And I think Meadow is on the before you rip it out and replace it. Well, that's what I'm asking. Is there a park that is like I said, I think Meadow is on the on the verge of that. I've got Oh, I have No, I have those. Does it say it on here? West Ridge playground equipment replacement. That's going to be in 2034. Here, here you are. Yeah. Sorry. On the far right side, I've got other notes. Cost, expected life, year to replace. 203. Okay. So, that one was just replaced. Yeah, because I pulled the installation dates on all the existing equipment. So, the reason park doesn't have it. Oh, yep. Yep. There it is. 23. Take us back just for one second. The reason I asked that line on the park dedication and all that, we have a line item here for the future park to be determined, you know, 200 grand. Like I don't think I guess I don't think we need to plan for that if if we're assuming that it's either getting put in with the future development or we get money from a development coming in where then we would build another park. So does the developer then get to pick what they put in? No. Okay. We'll tell them what to put in. works. Now, it's not going to be the Taj Mahal of parks because if you make it too expensive, they go, "Well, the development can't bear that. We're not paying that, right?" And then that's where you make that's where the city could then come in and say, "All right, well, you you put this in and then we're going to add this or whatever if we wanted to, I suppose." But I make it a reasonable park. You know, standard playground equipment, wood chips. I'm not going to do poured in place. Yeah. Rubber because that's insanely expensive. Oh, that is insane. It's expensive. Um, just do standard park in there. Yeah. Have them build it and then they turn that over to the city. They'll carve out that parcel. They'll put it all in. They'll make sure it's up to snuff and then they gift it to the city as part of the and that's written into the development agreements and all the legal documents. I guess what I'm looking at too is just and I know it keeps kind of going back to the disc golf thing, but I want to kind of show them. Yeah. Hey, we looked over this and there's nothing that that should be over it that should be ahead of it. That's more pressing, right? or that's more um worth and we're not at we're not at a position where that's the only thing that we can do this. That's what I was asking him earlier. I mean we still have budget right if it was if it was $200,000 that'd be a different it'd be another I mean we're looking you know what are we looking 10 15,000 somewhere in there 20,000 I saw for the dis golf that was 20 was the line but was that before or after the donations? So total 26ish. Okay. On that I have some trash cans in there, but right on that whole sponsorship. I'm figuring we have 19, but I'm figuring 17. I have a couple thoughts in my head about ones we want to gift. Okay. I special organizations and people who have contributed greatly to the project that are deserving of recognition through a whole sponsorship. Have a couple thoughts in my head about that. So you sell 17. I just went with the thousand model. Well, that's 17 grand right there. And you're talking about So we're talking we're 10 10 grand possibly. That's Yeah. Looking at this list. And and what do we have in our bank right now? Yeah, I was going to pull up mine, but I did bring my laptop. That would be the only other thing maybe that to have uh as a point of, you know, I'll get that spreadsheet for the Yeah, exactly. like you've you've provided you've prepared basically our we had the budget of our we had the budget presented at city council. Yeah. And I just got to remember where I put this. We were under here. It's in the last email, is it? I don't have email on this particular laptop. Security airgapped security. Security. You're probably going to find it by the time I get this out, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah, I will. Oh, it's going to be under CIP. That's where I had it. Got it. There it is. See, I'm just putting pressure on you. Thank you. So, this is my park fund uh tracking since when I started, we had we had pavilion, we had splash pad, we had all this going on, and I need to reconcile a lot of the accounts because we're getting the grant money and what have you. Yeah. So, this is our current fund balance as of 228. Some of these other items, you will see notes accounted for. That's why you see zeros in there because they're already included in the fund balance. Okay. Um we have the second uh splash pad payment of 247 248. Uh the old school house trail reconstruction at 95 96,000. Some just general miscellaneous expense miscellaneous expenses contingencies because projects are going to have them. Uh helping balance out. So running deficit once that's all done DNR outdoor recreation grant for 314,000 shores that up a bit more. Park CIP of 95,143 shores it up a bit more. We have disc golf course I got at 26 without donations. However, if we get donate all the donations that well depending what we get annual versus the one time. So I just throw full cost in there. outdoor pickle ball court conversions. It will not be that much because we're just striping lines, right? We're just And yeah, should be low thousands to get that done. But I like to budget conservatively. So, it'll be over than under. Yep. And we're still under. Mhm. That's what I was saying. We had Alliance club donation. Uh that was for the picnic tables and then we had the baseball club donation that is for the trees that will go in. That's kind of part of this 20 grand miscellaneous. Your gloves, right? So, you can see there's still a deficit here. And when this whole thing kicked off a couple of years ago, I presented to council, there will be this deficit. And the plan was from our 435 general capital projects fund that's doing well. So, we would transfer funds out of the 435 into the park fund to balance out the difference. And that figure I always had pegged from the get-go around 125 to 130. Nice job. See, so we're under. So we're landing around there, but should be under considering. Yeah, the smaller pickle ball and we get we get this turns to 10. This turns to three. Not using all the 20,000 potentially. It looks better. So, is there consternation on the council for that transfer? No. Is that where the question on I think mayor was just um like, oh, whoa, we're jumping into another project. I think he just was in my opinion just like, okay, are we sure we don't have anything else that's super pressing? Sure. Right. I mean, it just seemed like I mean, and for me coming in, it was like, oh, boom, splash pad, boom, pickle ball. So, if anybody were to say we're jumping in, it would have been me. But I mean, I think it's really good to see this and show this to the city council to say, "No, I mean, other things can still be done. There's still room for other things, and we're not even going to use up the whole budget to take to do this." I mean, to me, it's a no-brainer, honestly. You're adding a huge thing to the city at minimal cost. I take some of the blame because I'm a gas go 100 miles an hour on projects. And when it came to the disc golf, I just repeated the process that I had success with and can be. I remember when I came, you were like, "Yep, done that before. Let's go." That's what I mean. I knew how to do this project. Why sit on a project? That's what the confidence is is, well, you've done it before and you've had good success. Why? And it's a smaller town than here, so I mean, why wouldn't And we're close to the city, so I mean, well, and I've never even played it. And I was like, that sounds good, right? You know, I mean, it sounds like visually it even adds something to the city in my opinion. I think disco golf courses are pretty. You talk about of can be the closest town of any reasonable size. Can be was 1800. Marshall was the closest one was Marshall. That was 25 miles away. Yeah. So, and it was considered close, right? I think people like to see things being done. Yeah. So, and and to have these added in and you know because people are a little indifferent about Dollar General, but to have some things that are pretty and functional and open. I mean, you got splash pad that's got to be open up to all the little kids. I mean, we really got a lot of stuff going for us in our little town in my opinion. Yeah. I mean, I think we're moving pretty good and and this will just Yeah. Okay. So, uh, goal is to your homework is take this home. Frank it. You have your column with your name up here. Fill in the numbers one to 10, one to five. One being the lowest, high being the five. Did you send out a spreadsheet version of this? Uh, the last time. The last time. So, paper might be a little bit easier. So, number one would be like our most important to us. No, you want it the other way around. Says at the top five is highest. says at the top you did that last right and I think you ranked every time it's like highest priority so beyond so it would points the light in the gazebo was one of your the top ones right the light not the trail lighting no the light the the gazebo lighting so yeah if you'll get 10 if you think a park bench in Westridge park is the greatest thing since sliced bread give it a five okay if you think it's an awful idea and that it has way too many park benches already give it a one and did you notice that Like there's your own column right here. I saw that. I saw my name went on. Woohoo. I didn't even see my name up there. When you said name, I'm like, what? You're not ranking yourself. I have to do something. Okay. All right. Uh, any other discussion on CIP? I don't believe I have any more for you. Okay. Uh, any other commissioner reports? Anybody get anything that you need to bring to the table? And then uh welcome again to our new member. We're excited to have you here. Thank you. And uh I think you got a better welcome than either going on around here. Council me. Um with that I'll look to for a motion to adjurnn. So moved. Second. All in favor? I I awesome.