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Mayer City CouncilTuesday, October 26, 2021
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all right at 6 30 we'll call the monday october 25th 2021 regular city council meeting to order please if we can start with the pledge of allegiance let's start with the pledge of allegiance all right do we have any additions to the agenda tonight hearing now i'll look for a motion to approve the agenda as presented make that motion wait a second second second say hi all right five zero motion motion we have a second second second all right do you want me to hold for a minute hi we're good we're good then okay all right so with that we'll move to public comments if there's anyone who would like to discuss anything that's not on the agenda please come forward seeing none we'll close public comments move to consent agenda is there anything on the consent agenda that needs to be pulled for further discussion mr mayor i'd like to pull 5d 5d all right we will move 5d down to 6c all right anything else that'll look for a motion to approve the consent agenda uh with the exception of 5d i'll make that motion we have a second second we so with that i'd like to congratulate both brady and rachel as um being appointed as new firefighters it would be a great addition and with that then maggie i think we can open the public hearing for delinquent utility bills all right samir dodging counsel as as you you're being asked to conduct a public hearing today for the certification of delinquent charges for payments with taxes this includes delinquent utility bills and other service charges that have been performed over the year so on an annual basis the city of mir and other cities have the opportunity for minnesota law to certify for payment with tax collections delinquent utility accounts and other service charges that have not been paid throughout the year a public hearing is required prior to any certification and property owners have been notified of the public hearing by letter the city of mayor has us has to certify charges to carver county for the tax collection with their 2022 taxes by november 30th we have set a hard date of november 25th for residents to get their payments into the city of mayor to prevent certification since friday uh october 22nd the delinquent role as you can see in the appendix is at ten thousand two hundred twenty one dollars and seventy one cents uh we have continued to receive some payments and expect the number to continue to go down i apologize um continue to go down as we get into november um so right now we are at 15 properties at 9290.98 so we did get some payments today so throughout the year staff does notify residents that with delinquent accounts of their delinquencies and we help where we can so we do offer payment plans we also provide information um to these residents about utility payment assessment assistant programs there have been a number with coven 19. we have notified them of those opportunities to take advantage of those programs so we are we have had the opportunity to work with residents on their utility balances the charges that are proposed are is similar to other years so we have with our certification we do one year with six percent interest it also includes a fifty dollar special assessment fee that goes towards city and county fees so with that i'm recommending the uh that following the public hearing that council approve resolution 10-25-21-41 that approves the certification of unpaid charges as currently listed understanding that some payments can come in between now and november 25th thank you is there anyone from the public who would like to come up and speak all right seeing donna and maggie were there any emails or phone calls that need to be added in records there were not perfect all right any one last chance any other discussion or public discussion hearing done then we will close the public hearing and with that i'll uh look for a motion to approve resolution 10-25-21-41 we'll make that motion we have a motion to have a second a second a second any further discussion maggie did anybody take advantage of the covet money that was available um so our specific so i know when we had coveted money that was actually in 2020 so we did not offer anything for the 2020 one year but we did notify residents of a state program that recently was i think went active on october 1st so i know some residents did call and talk to me about that and as far as if they qualify or not i don't know i just get kind of the we signed the agreement that i talked to the city council about um being a partner in that but i i haven't seen any come through at this time again i don't know qualification details it all depends on kind of the personal their personal status so do we know when we would hear from that i mean i would assume right once we turn this over to the county then what does it look like if they get money on that grant yeah they should know pretty quickly because as far as i from what i was reading for that grant they said that they expected it to go really quickly with the funds that they had and the accounts that they expected to or applications they expected to receive i think they were expecting it to to go pretty quickly and notify the water companies pretty fast so i would expect if people do qualify we wouldn't we wouldn't know in the next few weeks i can also check in again with the state um but to to to today we have not received anyone i know people have applied i know some people haven't qualified and so it's not that they haven't tried it's just based on kind of i just want to make sure it's not extra work for you right like we do this and then we get the money yeah no and and in the letter i did notify them that that we um regardless of that we were working with them and that um and they're still aware that if the payment doesn't go through that they would get certified so that was your kind of your questions too and these numbers aren't much higher than they have in past years okay five six seven eight nine years they've been you know they're a little a little bit higher you know sometimes more around six thousand seven eight thousand but they haven't skyrocketed because of that and we've added more homes to every years it's not way out of line from what we typically see if that matters at all all right any other discussion all in favor say hi hi motion carries 5-0 all right maggie let's move to the uh 2022 police contract mayor dodging council in front of you is uh the approval for the 20 oh i got the wrong one uh 2022 police contract so we did bring this to the city council for review in at the first meeting in august to go over the contract it is as you can tell there's not many changes to it um the contract is with carver county sheriff's department we have a .88 fte that we share with new germany they have a .12 to complete that into one fte so that is what we budget for we also receive an additional 130 hours of cso time and we pay for southwest metro drug task force and we've been doing that for a very long time so no changes there we've maintained the 0.88 fte for the last two years before that we were at 0.67 and the hours in the last two years have been mainly evening hours between two and ten uh this year we did make some changes in the summer um having those four 10-hour rotating shifts right now we're currently working with carver county in changing in the hour in coverage because they're navigating through some changes in staffing and coverage and they need some flexibility so for 2022 we are continue continuing to monitor um and work with carver county on their needs to to have flexible hours we're currently doing the 12 hour 6 a.m 6 p.m and then 6 p.m to 6 a.m contract um again continuing to monitor that they think it might go into at least the first quarter of 2022 and then we're going to reassess at that time so this contract we are looking to maintain the 0.88 fte coverage the 130 cso hours and the southwest drug task force and we do budget for the ability to purchase extra hours at a rate of this year will be 68.78 per hour we have 50 hours built in as far as costs personnel costs have gone down a little bit and so we are seeing a little bit of a reduction from 2021 to 2022 so with that i'm open for any questions otherwise i am recommending the contract has written and approving resolution 10-25-21-42 approving the contract between the city of mayor and carver county sheriff's department and allowing the city administrator and mayor to sign that document then i'll look for a motion to approve resolution 10-25-21-42 2022 police contract between the city mayor and carver county sheriff's department i'll make that motion motion wait a second second second any further discussion hearing not all in favor say aye aye aye same side motion carries 5-0 that then maggie will take us to the 2022 fire department contracts with the townships mayor dodge and council in front of you is the 2022 fire contracts with the four townships that are that we service sections of uh within the mayor fire department district so the contract is the same as previous years and that it's based on the number of parcels with buildings within the township and the city i usually reach out to the townships at the late in the late spring time to get an update on their parcel count information and let them know kind of where we're at as far as projected budgets because their budget cycle is a little bit different than ours um so as you can see our final budget between the city of mir and the townships will be 264 950 for 2022. the budget for 2021 was 252 7725 and that's an increase of 12 225. that increase is mostly seen in wages um so uh within the last couple months we did approve um taking into account um firefighters attending those monthly meetings um so we wanted to increase those we needed to then reflect that in our budget also utilities we do have two fire buildings in the upcoming year and um also based on trends we're seeing just some minor increases so that actually the budget increase is actually a 4.8 percent increase um i did send the contract out to the townships for review the one change that is in front of you there is a sheet i was notified late last week that watertown since or watertown township since i talked to them in late spring they have added a parcel and so there will be a slight change in um the breakdown of cost the budget will stay the same it's just going to shift the percentages and the amount that everyone pays so everyone else will see a minor deduction and then watertown township will see 173 about that of an increase so with that i'm recommending approval of the 2022 fire contracts between the city of mir and the four townships with those changes to bring watertown township up to 76 parcels and to authorize the city administrator and mayor to sign on the contracts parcels are 890 are those actual numbers so we're projecting 890 at the end of 2021. we kind of kind of behind like our taxes like are we behind a year we're behind a year so we could because we don't know usually what that final number will be and so we're yeah our numbers are kind of based off the year before um 35 increasing 21 to 22 was actually from the houses in 2020. yep our final because yeah this year we're we're about it 12. so any other questions on this is that a resolution on that maggie i'm sorry um we do not have a resolution just the contracts with that i'll look for a motion to approve the 2022 fire contracts with the i'll make that motion we have a motion to have a second second we have motion a second any further discussion hearing none all in favor say aye aye all same side motion carries 5-0 then that will take us to the edition of 6c to discuss 5d the vince meyer and city of mayor wetland project so i i'll do a little summary and then i'll ask for additional questions um so as you know at the the previous meeting on october 11th the city of mayor approved the second agreement with joel finkemeyer and moving forward with that lump sum payment for his wetland credits so with that agreement we decided that we would do the lump sum per the contract as written he would have to make sure he files all his paperwork and the wetland becomes certified upon that being verified then we would we would make that lump sum payment so this evening i'm just bringing back the resolution that formalizes that inner fund loan that we talked about so we don't have enough funds in our storm sewer fund right now and so we're essentially borrowing money from our sewer fund at uh and we are paying it we are going to pay it back over five years with a three percent interest rate and so that is what this resolution is showing approval of that loan between the departments and the payback schedule so two questions i just came to mind is on the payback i know we talked about we would sell our wetland credits right and also martini said it could take some time so we have a five-year schedule to pay him back um what happens if we don't sell any of our credits well based on talking with the engineer and the our financial advisor we do have interest in them already and so we do feel like we would be able to get a large majority of that back quicker than we think and so whether we follow that schedule and have reserves in the storm sewer and just pay it back over time or we can even pay it back in the lump sum if we get it back quicker than we think so we can change that schedule but based on the what we're projecting and when we think that we'll be able to sell them just based on interest um we think we'll be able to pay it back within that schedule as long as there's flexibility there and we're not gonna there is like if some taxes to pay it i'm okay yeah no there's no tax this is uh the enterprise fund so we don't have any taxes that go towards this if something does change we can always amend it and then on the uh vanquier's responsibility to pay the or to file for the conservation easement so he's got to do that he's already done it he's done that and has it been approved um i would have to ask um i know he filed it a couple days after october 11th so it's at b is that they call it bowser right now and um we're waiting for them to give us the go ahead and verify that then our wildland will be certified so we will not make any payment until we get verification from them that the wetland is certified that's all i had then that answers both your questions okay so i'll make a motion approve um d under the consented agenda the big byron city uh mayor wetland project so approving resolution 10-25-21-38 yep perfect wait a second a second any further discussion hearing none all the favor say hi hi all right motion carries 5-0 because the council reports uh house member melender anything nothing to report councilmember wagner nope i have my quarterly meeting tomorrow yeah the carver county yep are you going to be able to attend okay it's the last thing i do before i get on the airplane dedication yeah right uh councilman mcnealy nope nothing yeah council member health not at this time i don't have anything myself just a couple comments on the fire department dedication it was an excellent event well perceived i think thank you to andy uh chief one great job you did coordinate along with my iggy and staff and public works and the color guards out there the dalmatians it was just a great turnout the weather helped some but you guys did a great job fantastic job so i appreciate that well perceived a lot of great positive comments so with that i have nothing else and i'll look for a motion to adjourn i'll make the motion a second a second i'll favorite say hi we are adjourned so then meg i think we can roll right into the workshop and we'll uh call them monday october 25th workshop meeting to organ okay so our first topic is the 2021 street project as you know the public we've called for the public hearing to be on november 8th we did invite residents of of the public or notify them of the public hearing we did send them a letter also with their potential assessment and other information i believe i provided a sample letter of what that looked like in your packet if you have any questions on that so what we had decided that is that we were going to have a workshop on this ahead of time just to give council an opportunity to ask questions um ahead of time uh before we just so that everyone's prepared and and that you have um any questions answered before we go into the public hearing so one thing we wanted to and i know you can't read that very well we wanted to give you information on what those total assessment numbers um are based and then also compared to the feasibility study that we did in december of 2020. the spreadsheet in your packet includes the difference so we want to i don't i'm going to try and zoom in as much as i can um so you can see and i don't know if you can zoom in on your uh computers as well um it depends again on the property so the properties are based on mostly on square footage and so the changes because the dollar amount was four assessments was a difference of about 120 000 between the feasibility study and the bid that went out and so when that breaks down there's a range of savings of about a thousand six hundred to for mayor lutheran high school at the highest of twenty four thousand dollars um so this is based on our assessment policy this is the highest that would be assessed based on that policy um i know in the past we've talked about discussing other assessment options as well but this again is based on our policy and so we wanted to provide that information to you and give you the opportunity to ask questions um at this time based on that information i guess for me that does help seeing that the difference from what we first thought it may have been yeah and i apologize i thank you for doing that yeah and i also wanted to provide you and i sorry i didn't mean to cut you off um with so our rate i wanted to provide you with information on previous projects as well so this current project financing is 15 years at a rate of 3.45 percent our past projects have ranged from 10 to 20 years at a rate of about 5.75 to 6. so um just to give you a little history on those other projects as well thank you any uh questions people have or more clarification we're going to need no i think i like the 15 years it just gives me a little bit more time brings out the really total a little bit down and then the lower interest rate due to the fact that we got just better yeah so now remind me again and i know we talked about it i know you said it but we're locked in now on the number of years or can that change i did talk with todd residents came in and they all said hey no we want we all want 10. can we each get off early but how about 20. um i did talk with the the financial advisor with ellers and when we did set that schedule we set it for our payments back so he recommended being consistent um because we base that revenue coming in based on how we set our own payment schedule up okay so but people if they wanted it sooner they can they can pay it off sooner yep that's great and then how is the process on this if we come in we have a public hearing if we get a whole bunch of comments is is there an expectation to have this approved that night or can we take another meeting that takes more time to discuss it think about it based on public's feedback you know i i you jeff you might know a little bit more than me this is the first time i've gone through this process the only thing i would say is that generally and i think we do have some flexibility generally assessments are due to the county by the end of november early december and just with how our project lined up we're kind of on the edge of that timeline but i think there is some flexibility but i would i don't know if you've seen that before or um good evening mayor members of the council i'm jeff wyatt with bolton mink you do have a little bit of flexibility like maggie said you don't have to make it to make a decision that night you're you you can take testimony you can close the public hearing and you don't have to make any motions but we do have to check because we are getting up close to that time where we have to uh make a decision i'm sure we have a couple weeks we might even have a month let's check in about make sure we have at least when we know what are some of those things that we we could change because right now we have ordinance or i don't know what it is um based on like how the assessment policy is if we're going to make a change don't we have to change the assessment policy before you change this um you would be going against policy if you do so you would be essentially setting a precedent for one future projects and i think i believe specialist the policy has been followed for those other projects so um yeah i don't know if that's going to happen i'm just thinking ahead on if that did i don't know if no one say things personally so no i haven't heard anything and there's been lots of opportunities too before the public hearing to have these conversations and coming to the meetings yeah and i definitely like the reduction from yeah yeah and i think we can show them that information we can show them our past project information we can um i think showing this to the financing that you know right um i was just curious i don't know off there yeah yeah maybe it'll all get resolved you do have flexibility to you you do have a policy you're trying to follow it but you do have the flexibility to that night if you want to cap assessments to make a policy change change the years change the interest rate you can you can do all that yeah anything else we want to research or have maybe put together before or any other direction i would just make sure that was my question yeah i would make sure you include what our original assessment was we were able to get lower bids project came in less than expected to show that savings and show that you know you are getting a very decent interest rate you know you're getting that 15 years so that if that payment shouldn't be as large and that you can pay it off early okay good anything else on that does that give you what you need yeah no that's perfect unless you have anything else to do perfect thanks for coming jeff thank you thank you thank you all right let's go to the american recovery plan uh act fund so mayor and council uh i'm just bringing this item back for discussion again this is an item that doesn't it's it's good to have these discussions from time to time it we do have a longer time frame um than we did with the kovid 19 money um so but i think it's important to at least set a time or be aware of that timeline and maybe get some goals and priorities set um in the in the early um in the early months so um as you know the city did receive money from the arpa fund um we got we got 239 781.38 cents we approved that resolution that allowed me to request those funds and accept them we did get our first payment which was about 125 000 in september uh and then we will get the other half next year after 12 months uh so we do similar to the kovid um money or kovid money that we received in 2020 we do have reporting requirements and we are able to spend money by december 31st 2024 but we do have the ability to decide um or we're we need to decide what those funds will be for by 2024 but then we're able to spend them by the end of 2026. so if the project goes over we're able to still spend that money so i did provide in the past some information about some guidance from the u.s treasury what we can spend this money on um in eligible uses so and i know we did discuss that and give some give some feedback at that time one thing that i want you to keep in mind is that other government entities are getting money as well so we really want to focus on um either one collaboration or not duplicating maybe where other government entities are already focusing i mean we can but if those resources are already available to our residents maybe we can find a more creative way for something else that we can help them help them with and we are notifying and i know carver county cda continues to notify residents and businesses of either state federal or county projects so i know one thing we did is we let residents a utility the state did has the energy assistance program for utility assistance and we did let all residents that could could use that or benefit from that program we didn't notify them of that i know carver county put out a notice to businesses for us their assistance that they're working on and then they're also really focusing heavily right now on keeping people in their houses so rental assistance and mortgage assistance so they're really that's kind of where their focus is right now according to elise recently um so i just provided i a lot of cities are starting to talk about it but haven't really finalized what they're spending their money on the city of carver they they already have their full schedule out of what they're spending their 533 000 on so they're doing utility projects and fire department pages pages and radios i did attend a league minnesota city seminar where cities of similar size to mare attended with me they did three different groups depending on the size of your city so i had a discussion and they they had an overall discussion with small cities and what they were going to focus the money on a lot of cities are focusing on utility projects um heavily on replacing infrastructure getting maintenance those are those kind of those expensive projects that um a lot of cities are dealing with and so when i was reflecting on mayor we're actually in a really good place because our infrastructure is very a lot of our infrastructure is very new um we have three developments that have gone in within the last 20 years and so that we're we're just focusing more on maintenance the older part of town we've been really proactive with so we've i think we have one more year where we're going to line sewers to reduce ini and so we're sitting really well and so when i talk to public works about any infrastructure projects we really don't have a lot in the trunk lines but one idea that we did think of that could be a benefit is televising private lines because um and i did provide information on influent infiltration one it's one of those things that um it's like rain water that gets into cracks within ours within the private lines the public lines and that's where then it's then um fresh water that gets into our sewer system and then flows to our wastewater treatment plant and we're treating clean water and that's an additional expense that we don't really plan for and so a lot of cities um have been working to reduce as much ioni as possible because it is it ends up being costly and so one idea that we came up with and i did talk with um the league about it is uh for the older part of town which would be about a hundred properties televising the private line seeing what their um what the uh like the how those lines are if they're cracked if they there are sometimes where these lines can be crumbled um just seeing if they're a huge source for that ini um so again televising those lines but then offering and i've done this in another city where you offer kind of a matching grant to then get them to replace their lines or line them and so we can then the benefit is is that we reduce ini and then we reduce the amount that we're spending on cleaning fresh water um again this is like a this has been a priority uh um for our public trunk lines and we've done a really good job with it but if we can incentivize those private lines and further reduce ini i think that's a benefit for for everyone um so that kind of jumped into kind of my suggestions at this time kind of what what um the list i've put together [Music] and i'm i'm i this is just my recommendation talking with department heads but it's it's to open up that discussion again where do we want to focus this money and um keeping in mind that we do have four years so we don't have to spend all this money at once but what do we think would be the best use and so as you can see there's some fire department items there's the sanitary sewer projects public buildings i think are phase two of our when we upgraded our audio visual we also had a discussion on when we got that all updated getting our rings set up and getting all of our buildings connected that we would then focus on possibly security access who's just knowing who's entering our buildings and then having those cameras as well so that's an option um but other cities are looking at projects could we use it for anything down at the wastewater treatment plant for like the clarifying uh pools that we need to upgrade um or is it more i could look at that it's possible i think it would like some of the money could could qualify it just depends on um again that timeline uh if we um i know that that's on our list to come uh in the next few years to get replaced so how did we budget to pay for the lining that we're doing next year i mean could we use some of that we could um alleviate the expense somewhere else right we do levy about um well let me just think about that for a second so it it wouldn't impact our [Music] our general levy like our tax levy uh because it's an enterprise fund and so that's where we um that's where we budget for it we budget about 60 000 a year in our enterprise fund for the lining i think this was a good start i do have andy here the chief one just for questions about fire department items but yeah we just want to have i think we want to brainstorm we want to get more ideas and guidance um and kind of a timeline put together as you know which which projects we want to take on now versus um over the next four years so what should we get now we have about a hundred and a little under 120. maggie i like the two that you listed with the question mark the business support and a premium pay for essential workers right i and i and i put that in there because i know um we did business support in 2020 um we did get some interest in it um but if you want me to look into that again i will i don't know if carver county cva is willing to collaborate again because i think they're focusing more on housing and so it would be something that if we did look into it we would have to really understand the administrative side of it and make sure um that we build like a solid understanding about what our responsibilities that's gonna be one of my questions if there's any talk from a county or our municipalities handlings individually in no county right now um they just don't they're not focusing on that um it doesn't mean that they won't in the future it would just be something if we wanted to do it now that we would likely be taking it on ourselves what about just like the the restaurant loss of revenue for the restaurants in town that you could just give them a grant out of the money the funds for the loan revenue yeah it's it so we don't are you talking about like our loss in revenue or theirs theirs again it would be setting up standards and making sure we're doing it the program is so we can't just give them money there has to be strict requirements and reporting requirements that we're meeting certain guidelines and we're making sure that we're giving i i don't know if we need to i mean we would have to look at their financials that's private data again we'd have to structure it in a way first that we know what how we're distributing money and how we're assessing who we're giving it to so it is something we can look into and we can draft that i'm and this was all done when we did it before we gave money to the county so that they would do all the all that work so they had the legal and everything figured out and we did have local businesses the advantage of it yep and get money okay so yeah there were some yeah like essential workers in that people and mayor like say the fire department like when they made um health calls or ambulance what had called ambulance calls they're under this they're working under the assumption of risk or they were during colbit um at the height of it like back back pay premium pay for that i think there are i think this goes back to march and so i think that is something that i think the council expressed interest in back when we were thinking about getting the money or when the money was becoming available so that is something um [Music] that i wanted to bring again for discussion if that's something you want me to pursue and i'd like to see that yeah okay i think it's worth looking into i know i know we did last year when we were in the heights of the and we were getting the kaizak money right for summer i don't recall what came about um and certainly keep keep your finger on the pulse like you have been with other communities and see what they're doing and what can we learn from that and things that right thought of i know for me i'd be prioritizing uh for me on how i'm going to look at what benefits the entire community versus what might benefit you know and they all seem to you know even if you say uh television sewer lines for 100 properties well that does benefit the entire community if we get rid of ini right right security i think is big fire department stuff all that stuff up there i mean we can have some just i want a little more clarification on some of it but those are things that benefit our entire community that we need to purchase eventually so i i think those are good it's a good start it does seem radios it didn't we just replace our radios andy so um what we've got the 16 radios on there is some of them would be updating some old radios the rest would be so we've got enough radios for each member that way we're not sharing radios and stuff like that when it comes to you know that type of stuff you know so then each kind of member would would have the radio what we just replaced was our pagers those pagers got replaced okay yep correct because we had to upgrade to the counties correct because they're going to 800 megahertz that's why we had to replace our pagers these 16 will round us out then yeah so what it'll do is replace some of our oldest ones and then get us enough to then where everybody would have one the base radio and handset is so our base radio right now that we have at our station that we're planning on you know moving over to the new station is probably 20 years old when talking with uh motorola or ancom uh about when we were gonna we'll move it over there he said well we can move yours over there he said but where we're gonna have to put it in the in the station to tie into our speaker system and stuff like that is going to be in the closet the electrical closet so then we can't really use it as a base radio it'll be able to um it'll be able to go through the speaker systems and stuff like that so we can hear it we can't really use it as a as a you know a base station so what we're proposing then is a base which then goes in there and then these what he calls a kind of a desktop or a handset that ties into that that we would be able to put in a couple different locations in the station yeah good good and then the jumpsuits are our medical jumpsuits that we wear to calls a lot of ours are pretty you know they're probably 20 years old or whatever to replace them and then it would give guys that they can keep their old one you know so we come back to something they need to wash wash theirs they can throw it in the wash they still have a subset uh to utilize and stuff oh no here he is we do use yep jumpsuits now um for medicals yeah of like having that second one for washing because you never know what you're going to get on so well how often do they think you would want right not to wear the same suit yeah out in the wash and then we've got a set but um and like i said a bunch of them are they're old so with the 16 radios how old would your oldest radio be at that point if we well so the the ones that we would be replacing are the older ones that we're replacing i wouldn't say are just over 10 years old i think you know some of the older ones and then i'd have to look back at how many is it were actually replacing versus adding extras i want to say it's only we're only like six or something like that away from where everybody would have one replacing like 10. how much of this stuff is budgeted for 2022 i don't i i it's none of it's budgeted for um and let accept uh the replacement andy was at a 2022 the replacement of the 10 radios we've got we've got in there kind of a number set aside you know for years for radios type of thing as they need to be replaced type of thing but it's just kind of just awesome let's get it done i'll just keep yeah keep going into that fundamental correct keep growing yeah so that yeah if we would get this then that money that's budgeted would just go into our capital improvement fund and yeah i think those are all good items and it certainly benefits the entire community along with our first responders obviously okay any other questions for andy are you able to start using the money now or yeah we can use the money now so if so i think one i'm trying to understand priorities and trying to set a timeline um like what are the items that we think are we want to focus on the you know right away um whether it's i think the um the sanitary sewer might be a little ways out just because we need to educate we need to for a project that big i think we need to do kind of some bidding work but again yeah we need to do the education part so i would say yeah it depends on how you want to approach it for fire department those items can be purchased now the security that's kind of something we discussed months ago or even last year and we got two bids on that so that's kind of a go like an item that we've already kind of navigated through as well i don't know if you want to discuss that a little bit further again though before that gets approved but i guess i'm looking for guidance from you to like what other priorities now kind of in the middle future i'm i'm trying to kind of gauge it all i guess andy would it be beneficial now with still kind of implementing the new station to have the base radio now [Music] um yeah so right now regardless i think if we would order something right now it's still going to take a few months to do it or you know to get the stuff he's still going to take our you know is moving our base station you know into that closet which isn't doing any i mean there's a small little bit of installation costs of putting it in but isn't really going backwards if we you know would put that there and then put you know order the stuff to come in later type of thing if that kind of answers your questions um i could see us moving forward you know now with the jumpsuits i would think especially with covet and everything i wouldn't see that being an issue and possibly even the base station for now and then you know definitely looking into the security so andy how would you prioritize the the items for the fire department um i would say the base radio i would say would be kind of my first priority on that kind of list um so we do have a little bit more options there when using it the jumpsuits i mean as of right now i do you know everybody does does have one um but to get that kind of updated so that i would say the radios and then the jumpsuits would be my prioritizing of those three items okay i don't i don't mind doing a small amount now i'd be hesitant this early into it to do you know if we did the whole 73. right and then other things come up and we could have balanced things and now it's we've already spent it i'd like to at least spend another couple months maybe brainstorming other ideas see whether things may come up so we don't get ourselves back into a corner with the money being right but i would be like base radio yeah do that and the jumpsuits i would think you know that feels comfortable to start off with doesn't it my opinion i would wait i'd wait on them just because they're not in need we have some right i just don't need to get them replaced right but i just like the idea small amount would it bother me a huge amount no but um like nikki i just don't want to spend up too much of it because i do i personally think security is a big thing too that we should right absolutely you can give me guidance tonight and i can bring this back to a future meet um something in the future because again you can't make really any wreck you can make a recommendation on and guide me but then approve it at another time i'd look at that and kind of keep an idea of where that money is and where you think we're sitting on the spot you know like i said i just don't want six months or nine months from now another community may come with something to be like oh we could really use that's a great idea and the money's gone well we know andy's in the fire department's priorities so we've got that i i would be fine with the base rail handset that seems to make sense i know the one down there now is really old now moving in the new plates seems to make sense i would be okay you know if you want to look into that maggie and work with handy on that but i don't know andy would you have to purchase all the radios at once nope no okay well they're not getting any cheaper are they no and you said you had 10 budgeted next year or that's kind of difficult any budgeted it would just be the um i'd have to look at it you know just replacement of some of the you know older ones and stuff as we had one this year that got damaged and stuff we ended up replacing um but uh yeah i would say if we could do the base radio on that right away i think would really help if we you know decide to do some of the radios right now um to get us kind of there and then some of the old replace some of the older ones at a later time like you said even six would get them to their total for now not saying we wouldn't buy the other 10 with the money if we can balance it out i'm okay with that maggie i'd be okay with that um like i said i do have some hesitations on it i i i do want to get them but we didn't budget for them in 2020 so it wasn't a huge priority now so i'm not overly concerned if we didn't get them right away unless you're telling me different but that's my only hesitation is i don't want to spend it all right away or or we can i don't want this to drag on for 18 months either sitting here we get nowhere i want to i want to kind of get like that maybe kind of that timeline here's let's finalize where we think we want to spend what we want to do and then prioritize it move forward and move forward sounds good and then i'd be curious too maggie were you going to look into what mayor dodge said about the ponds spending clarifying pools yeah oh yeah yeah yeah because i know that's a necessity how about it adding on to buildings i no no so the jumpsuits are okay what happens if you have multiple first responders in a day um [Music] yeah i mean there is there is that there is that potential um you know it's a so how do you like you say you had a pretty tragic scene and you're you're you you're out on a call again i mean did you just swap another guy's jumpsuit out or turn off at times yeah okay let's say i threw my you know had had my gear in the wash and something you know something came up um i will either one of two things depending on what kind of call it is you know if it's a if it's another medical um now maybe just i'll throw my turnout gear on or something instead or i know so-and-so is not here i'll just go grab his quick or something our chances of that isn't as high priority as some other cities that you know run a ton of you know but that chance is always there maybe give them opportunities to actually wash their exactly right now that a lot would wonder if jump suits have been washed because i know just it's one of those things every time you you put your stuff in the wash and you're bound to get a call you know when you don't you know no call for a week type of thing you know they come in they might throw them in the wash but then what do you guys do to dry just hang to dry we've got um a gear dryer that we hang on that blows air through them and stuff to dry okay so the same as the okay but yeah that's just another thing that they that you have to all right let's let's certainly take time for the next you know other ideas anything else maybe you could maybe yeah i'll maybe talk anything that may come up with any of us in the meantime and try to get a good list put together and then yeah i'll maybe work on a kind of a timeline and priorities and um working with department heads on kind of doing the timeline and focusing on when it would make sense to to purchase things and then bring it back to council with that information sounds like a plan good all right right anything more on that all right then is