all right we have 6 30 so we'll call the city of mayor regular city council meeting for monday july 26th to order if we could please start with the pledge of allegiance crawl all right with that we have any additions to the agenda tonight hearing none i'll look for a motion to approve the agenda as presented i'll make that motion we have a motion we have a second second we have a motion a second all in favor say aye aye aye same sign motion carries 5-0 now open up public comments if there's anyone who would like to discuss anything that is not on the agenda please come forward and seeing none we'll close public comments we'll move to the consent agenda is there anything on the consent agenda that needs to be pulled for further discussion hearing none all the promotion to approve the consent agenda as presented i'll make that motion we have a motion to have a second second we have a motion a second all in favor say aye all right same sign motion carries 5-0 that will take us to the public hearing then so we will open the public hearing at 6 31 for the groves academy project approving the issuance and sale of an educational facilities revenue now it's series 2021 and authorizing the execution of the documents relating to thereto all right mayor dodge and council this evening we are holding a public hearing for the groves academy project and that's for groves academy located in st louis park as part of the public hearing the city will provide a brief background on the project and information about the city's involvement after the public hearing the city council is being asked to consider passing resolution 7-26-21-28 that would approve the issuance and sale of an educational facility's revenue note that's series 1 uh 2 0 or 2021 that will authorize the execution of the documents relating there too so a little bit of background at the april 12 2021 city council meeting the city council moved to approve acting as the conduit for groves academy in st louis park it's for the refinancing of the 2014 issuance that issuance was another time in which the city of mayor acted as a conduit for groves academy so this refinancing would be in the amount of 3 million and then the new there would be new financing for building improvements in the amount of 3.6 million so a little bit about groves academy groves academy is located in st louis park and serves a unique student base that is drawn from a very large service area its students are those with adhd dyslexia and other learning needs so the project would include the renovation improvement and equipping of grow groves academies independent co-educational day school facilities so groves academy has asked the city of mayor to issue bonds on behalf of the academy and as a reminder as i previously mentioned the city issued was a conduit for the academy in 2014. so we do have a conduit policy that we've reviewed in the past bond count our catherine courtney of taft llp has been acting as a bond council for the issuance she has been involved with both parties throughout the entire process and assured has assured that there is no liability to the city of mayor we also did discuss previously that state and federal law does allow local governments to enter into these arrangements to issue tax exempt obligation and loan loans to pro to be able to loan proceeds to nonprofit organizations to finance or refinance capital expenditures so by doing this it reduces borrowing costs for the entity and in this case that's groves academy so the city will enter into a loan agreement under which we will agree with groves academy in which they will agree to pay all principle and interest on the note and the resolution that's being considered this evening outlines the responsibilities of each party and that includes referencing referencing the note that i've been talking about and the agreement so following the public hearing the city council will con discuss and consider the included resolution first i'm going to invite dan morgan with groves academy up to speak a little bit on behalf of gross academy and the project that they're doing thank you very much mayor dodge council thanks very much for allowing us to come in this evening we're thrilled to be here uh thanks for all the support in the past as well uh so we are really excited to uh hopefully uh with your approval uh get this going uh as you know a little bit about groves we do work with a unique population of students neurodiverse students who require a totally different approach to teaching kids with dyslexia add adhd and other learning challenges that you may or may not have heard of groves has been in our community in st louis park for 49 years and we're about to enter into our 50th year coming up in this following school year and we're taking that opportunity to really have a look at our building and look at our program and all of the different things that we do and with our facility itself it's used to be a public uh school a public elementary school it's been in that space for quite a long time we are looking to create really what i would like to say is the world's best example of a facility an environment and a location in which to educate the types of students that we see and we see students from grades 2 to grades 12. so we want to have the type of facility that can follow their entire educational career and get them to the point where they are equipped and independent and ready to go off into the world and be a really functioning happy member of society and so that's what we're looking to get started uh with this process here and it will really help us kick off sort of the first phase of what we want to do throughout the entire building uh and that will then allow us to move forward over the next few years and do a total revamp of our space to have this world's best example of how to educate these kids that's just the quick this quick story i'm happy to take any questions or thoughts or or anything that i can help you understand any questions from anyone what's your enrollment now uh we uh are about to enter into our next school year with 279 students in our day school so groves actually has three components to the organization the school which has been around for 49 years we also and that has 279 students we also have a learning center where we see over a thousand students a year from throughout the entire community where we do full diagnostic assessment we do speech and language services and we do a tutoring uh one-to-one tutoring and we run a center summer program right now we're in the midst of summer school with 230 kids in our summer school we also have a third component which is called our groves literacy partnerships where we take all of the knowledge and expertise that we've built up over the last 50 years and bring it out to other schools other teachers and other districts in the wider community in order to really help teachers teach reading the way that it's supposed to be taught and that we served over 6 000 students this year and we'll serve over 9 000 students next year with that program so it's really designed to help us kind of spread the word and you know at groves we see students at groves academy from all over the twin cities like the greater wider twin cities area including students from you know much further afield in minnesota so you know we really want to make sure that we capture as many students as possible thank you you bet what the school on an average what's your student-to-teacher ratio in our lower school which is you know grade two right now maybe first grade some years up to sixth grade it's six to one uh and in our middle school uh it is typically about eight to one in our upper school we can go 10 to 12 to 1 depending on the subject that we're teaching you know science it's better to have a little bit bigger group of kids together but no bigger than 12 in our upper school so really small classrooms and that's one of the things that we're trying to do is to make sure that we can build capacity within our school to see more and more students because right now we're pretty close to maximum capacity do the teachers follow the students through through every year as they uh uh move through the program or is it new teachers every year is the students that's a great question they actually i've been in some situations where teachers do follow through but it grows typically they don't however they will have a teacher who sort of acts as an advisor and that teacher may follow them for several years throughout their program at groves depending on you know if they move from elementary to middle or middle to high school and and so on yeah great question thank you appreciate it yeah now we appreciate your support absolutely any other questions no okay thanks for the time appreciate it um yeah so with that um i just wanted to jump back quick i just wanted to say that i'm recommending again in front of you is is a resolution that i'm recommending um so uh again resolution 7-26-21-27 i'm recommending that and that would approve the issuance and sale of the educational facilities revenue note and allow staff to take the appropriate steps to get those documents signed and the agreement through thank you is there seeing none of maggie were there any other emails or phone calls that need to be added to the record around the minutes there were there were neither thank you all right any other public comments and hearing none then at 6 41 pm we will close the public hearing and with that i'll look for a motion to approve resolution 7-26-21-28 approving the issuance and sale of an educational facilities revenue note series 2021 for groves academy project and authorizing the execution of the documents relating thereto i'll make that motion second we have a motion a second any further discussion so meg can you just explain to me what a what the conduit what the whole concept is yeah i don't understand reading the packet it talks about like we're not responsible but yeah borrowing the money right so i will do a quick overview um all right so as i mentioned previously um we are able to act as a conduit um to nonprofit organizations so we are allowed every year we're allowed to as the city of mayor or a city a local government entity to issue up to 10 million dollars in bonds um with this were i think in april we kind of discussed uh reviewing our projects that we would not be and we rarely exceed or come close to 10 million and so whenever there is a remaining amount or we don't foresee spending that amount of money a non-profit does have the ability to ask us if they can issue bonds within our authority so in this case groves academy is going to be using a portion of our 10 million we do have our fire station this year but we will not be exceeding 10 million and so with that um we're able to fit both projects in without exceeding that amount and so really it the agreement that we're signing and that's in the resolution as well that references the agreement it um we're merely acting and allowing them to use the funds that we're allowed to use like within our range and but they take on all the responsibility and they need to take they pay the principal the interest and they are responsible for for for that payment um so it's written clearly that we're just allowing them to use that and that but they are responsible entirely for for that bond that they're taking okay so now correct me if i'm wrong it's kind of using our credit rating and our double a bond rating to help with that where they'll get favorable interest rates for that so as soon as we didn't use our 10 we have an extra bucket there nonprofits can come in and and take advantage of that for favorable interest rates yeah and we issued them one in 2014. yeah i read through all of that i just didn't that makes more sense to me thank you any further discussion all right we have a motion a second all in favor say aye aye aye oh same sign motion carries five zero so thank you guys for coming in um said it's certainly a pleasure to continue doing business with you guys it's great a great organization you guys going thank you thank you so much all right with that maggie we'll move to seven a one uh public works the snow plowing ice control plot the policy yeah mayor and council in front of you this evening is an updated snow plowing and ice control policy for your review and approval so as you know snow plowing and ice control are the responsibility of the city of mayor within the public works department it's our responsibility to control the snow and ice on city streets and designated trails upon snow events so at the beginning of the year as you know public works will be taking we've been planning for public works to take on snow plowing this year and so since then we've been reviewing the policy and determined that there were some updates that were needed and so with that we did public works the public works department and i have been updating the document to include more in-depth information on priorities property damage protocol responsibilities of homeowners and parking and towing clarification so the policy also now includes a route map to provide a visual of the priority route so we'll include that for residents to access on the website and then the public works committee has also reviewed several draft versions of the document and at this time confident that this version presented this evening is is the final version uh and therefore recommending approval i am also recommending approval but be for that i'm open to any questions or comments um on the policy any questions or comments from maggie or kyle we have kyle at the meeting tonight so since we have such a small public works department i would hope we allow them a vacation so what do we do if one is on vacation and we only have one do we have some sort of backup or i think and kyle can maybe talk about a little bit but i know um part of our plan has always been to have um widmer on as a as needed or um yeah um i guess well as a backup i would say i mean we got a variety of local contractors and probably not take to if there was just one of us we would just have them like remove snow downtown you know and just do something like that and then whether it's whitmer henning excavating or schneider or whoever it is that's probably what the plan will be if that arises but i've never missed a zoe event so i get to say that so i don't think brian will let me drive the loader so no no there's um and then we got two part-time on-call guys that might be able to help out as well so yeah we'll we'll make sure we have a formal plan set set this fall but i just thought there was something in here about a 12-hour max yeah so we've we've set some standards in there just for safety reasons um worst case scenario we do have something in there that says that we can make amen we per our discretion can make decisions um that go against this policy if necessary but it's more of a guideline that we would prefer our staff not to be overworked and so again worst case scenario we would be able to extend that but i think this provides guidance where we're hoping i i don't know if there's ever been a 12 hour it'd be for like prolonged snow events the last couple days um probably just go out plow for 12 hours keep the roads open go home sleep and then head back in you know type thing just so we get a break but i mean if we're plowing for 12 hours and it's going to take us 14 hours to finish up we're just probably going to finish up so okay but yeah it said just being able to public works department may deviate from the policy when their judgment is okay let's enter the city and budget so that would include a scenario like say it snowed and we got eight inches on the ground but you guys generally starting the winter at eight o'clock in the morning yeah when do you start in the winter if it snows we start an hour before it's okay it's done snowing so you'd run this red route like before the everybody would have to get out and leave yeah the red route is the high priority street so this is i kind of just as in a lot prolonged snow event this is these are the streets that we're gonna plow right away downtown isn't gonna get touched we'll go out in the mac we'll go on the loader we're gonna hit the red routes we're just gonna open up the streets wide open let's say snow quits at eight o'clock at night everybody's going home they're in bed streets are clear we're just going to plow and we're going to hit every street and then go to the next street and then um not have to backtrack as much this route we'd have to backtrack quite a bit but with that in mind we'd still hit the heavy roads just for fire protection emergency response type thing so depending timing's everything when it comes to snow but yeah the red routes are definitely the roads that we're going to keep open even if it's just one pass okay and just for note this hasn't changed this has always been well this is kind of how we've been been running it for years and years yep since i've been with the city this is kind of my priority yeah so enlighten me on on the uh it's 7th now up and then it turns to 62 which is a township road what's our agreement with them again like where the oh like for snow plowing or or yeah how how does that work with open field stone there yeah is that part of that's legally a township road right it's all our road uh watertown township maintains the gravel portion for us okay it doesn't we own it all the way to the there's a t there and we owe it all the way own it all the way up to the t down 60 down the gravel portion but all the blacktop portions the city americas okay any other questions that'll look for a motion to approve the snow plowing and ice control policy i'll make that motion we have a motion we have a second a second motion a second any further discussion hearing none all in favor say aye aye aye all the same sign motion carries 5-0 kyle's been waiting for that for this all this heat i'm kind of looking forward to pumping that'll take the 782 trail sidewalk and road repairs all right mr mirror members of the council throughout the summer city staff has compiled a list of streets sidewalks and trails that are in need of some repair staff is proposing to have wm mueller and sons complete the blacktop repairs needed in the amount of 15 090. this price includes the repairs of 10 ma 10 manholes two gate valves 17 pedestrian ramps 10 small patches and four larger patches needed around some structures wmiler suns is a valuable company to work with and the city has worked with them every year over the past several years steph is also proposing to have gopher state sealcoat to complete the crack ceiling repairs needed in the amount of seventeen thousand eight hundred forty dollars this price includes the crack ceiling of all blacktop sidewalks in the hidden creek development all park trails a vast majority of the roads in hayden creek development and i also created a map to show these locations correct ceiling helps prevent water from entering the road which can cause significant damage during freezing italia periods so kind of the breakdown gopher state sealcoat all the park trails to crack seal is gonna cost about four thousand seven hundred seventy eight dollars the sidewalk uh repairs for crack ceiling in hidden creek is gonna be two thousand one hundred eighty four the crack ceiling of all the highlighted roads in orange there is going to be 10 878 and then the road well like i said the road repairs are kind of the pedestrian ramps which does include some pedestrian ramps in cold water i'll touch base on clothes while they're a little bit we did have a couple public works meetings regarding the sidewalks and everything in um cold water and we're kind of looking to put a band-aid on them for now and possibly do a complete reconstruct of them next year when we do mill and overlays whether it be blacktop or concrete um so we're just kind of kind of get by with them this year and then hopefully next year a vast majority of them in the cold water development will be hopefully new so yeah there's some rough spots yeah so we the price for wmu learn students does include replacing the majority of those ramps in uh cold water crossing but we will re-evaluate and uh so that we may not do as many as we originally thought just uh if the ones are all in okay conditioning we'll make it one more year we're just going to leave them alone but the ones that are really bad will probably just fix up and um kind of do the bare minimum not that we laid a new black top and then rip it up next year so total cost for everything is going to be about 32 930. street improvement fund we're proposing to take the street portions of it so that'll be about 28 152 and the park improvement fund is where we're proposing to do the park trail crack ceiling i have my lovely map with the areas highlighted with the locations any questions for kyle and i'll look for a motion to have mueller and sons complete the blacktop repairs look for a motion to approve gopher state seal coating and the amount of 17 840 for seal cracking and mueller and sun's road repair for fifteen thousand and ninety for a grand total of thirty two thousand nine hundred thirty dollars i'll make that motion mr mayor we have a motion to have a second second motion a second any further discussion i just wanna say uh for kyle like i've noticed some of his artwork on some of the manhole covers and it looks like not a moment too soon uh especially in the hidden creek um they were looking pretty tough and you notice it when you hit it with the car the snowplow yeah i can only imagine and like i said this is a band-aid to get through so we don't get more damage we did talk about this quite a bit of public works meeting initially hidden creek was scheduled for repairs next summer but during the discussion we think we'll finish off cold watercross and just to keep that running that way and then go the next year to increase so that's why we thought we'll get these repairs done the engineers agreed with it thought it was a good plan on how we were working that so we just shifted things a little bit yeah because there's some really rough spots on cold water yeah most of those will probably still get addressed i think i know which ones you're talking a couple dips in a couple yeah even then it's that's it's just so yeah there's like three or four blocks that are real sketchy have you walked them since i painted them up yeah i saw all your markings i'm like oh well they're looking at them oh yeah any further discussion we have a motion a second album here say aye aye aye opposed samsung portion carries 5-0 thank you kyle yep all right 7b1 uh change requests for painting of the new fire station okay uh mayor and console in front of you this evening is a change request for the mayor fire station for interior painting of the station in the apparatus phase this request is coming from the mayor fire relief association to pay for the painting through a donation of forty five thousand eight hundred forty five dollars um i'm here to i i know in the past we've gone over this several times so i am here to answer any questions um but with that i am recommending approval of the donation any questions for maggie now i'll look for a motion to approve the donation from the mayor fire relief association for forty five thousand eight hundred forty five dollars to paint the apparatus bays of the new fire station make that motion we have a motion do we have a second second we have a motion a second any further discussion all in favor say aye aye aye aye all the same sign motion carries five zero reports council member melender anything report on i will be attending the planning commission meeting on august 3rd and for the uh watertown community and i don't have a date yet on our next meeting but i will attend that's what i have it all right we'll look forward to hearing about it at the next meeting uh councilman wagner anything report on i have the ccl meeting tomorrow morning first one we meet quarterly so okay you have your introductory powerpoint prepared yeah perfect okay i was told 22 minutes is that yeah okay 20 22 here right on all right councilmember mcneil no no uh park board uh we looked at some preliminary drawings for the pavilion at old school house park [Music] just kind of getting rough ideas at this point where are we at with the uh archery is that is that died now or is that still not being discussed it is on our priorities um i mean it's on our list of priorities for the next five years at this time the park commission has decided that it wasn't going to take on any more projects for 2021 but again still we'll probably look again in august at priorities for 2022 so we can bring it up again at that time all right i have nothing to report on at this time so with that i'll look for a motion to adjourn i'll make that motion all right with that then we will call the city council workshop meeting for monday july 26th to order all right so mayor and council i just have some information for you for the 2022 budget kickoff so we're in july so that's kind of the time when we start thinking about next year's budget and so i just wanted to give you a little bit more information and then get some feedback from you as far as what should i be focusing on this year so with that i do have a tentative budget schedule in your packet this is tentative to change because as you know things change and priorities some things take longer some things go quicker and so we might get through it quicker more quickly and some things might take a little longer [Music] so as far as budget goals objectives and priorities um so the city of mayor uh you know every year we assess the community as a whole and the vision uh for the future what are our goals how are we gonna achieve those goals it is important for the council and the community to to be proactive where it can be and i think we've been doing that we have our we have our capital plans essentially already created for for multiple departments with that we have our long-term financial plan that takes those capital plans and puts them into a five to six year outlook where we prioritize those projects and and we're proactive in maintenance and making sure that we're not having we're actively preventing hopefully any anything from breaking down quickly and having those uh up front or those in the moment costs so um again with that uh my question to you is where do you see the community going in the future what is what's the vision for 2022 and beyond um have you heard anything from the community as far as where should we focus our resources and where where do we have control and where don't we have control so i did give some examples i know our park and rex department has been pretty proactive and we've been doing a lot of projects in the last few years and so we are kind of taking a break for the rest of the year as far as taking on new projects we're just kind of working on some concept plans right now um for uh do we want to expand communication i know we've been working on social media we have a newsletter our sign is there anything else you can think of that would would allow us to reach the community business retention attraction civic engagement creating that sense of community we are being since last year or a couple years ago we've been very proactive in our the maintenance of our current infrastructure and we continue to do that and then also planning for future needs with future growth so in your packet i did put together a little powerpoint i won't go through it completely it does include again tentative dates and timelines summary of our budget so we do have our general fund budget that's paid through with local government aid and and um taxes and then our utilities is the that's our enterprise fund that that's that's paid for through um user fees and i do go through that a little bit more in depth again our budget our budget schedule going through the refresher today getting some ideas as far as how we want this budget to look and then in september as you know we do need to to approve our preliminary budget levy that gets sent to the council then we are able to continue to go through our budget and make changes we cannot raise the levy but we can reduce the levy by by the final approval in december so in december we will also have our truth and taxation public hearing that allows residents to based on our what we've passed in september to comment on our preliminary tax levy and then providing any comment before we pass our final final budget in this on that evening or on the 20th that's historically what we've oh what we've done on this preliminary is we as we get all the numbers together and the things we want to work on where we're at we typically stay on the high end of things knowing we can you know whittle it down some by the time we finalize it in december like mega said we can't go up we can only go down with it so we have to be pretty accurate now with that said that doesn't mean if we're around 49 or want to be around 50 we don't come in at 65 for a preliminary you know just to give us that wiggle room we we're within a couple percent and then we try to do what we can do to get it at that tax rate and then maybe you'll go through later in one of the meetings for anyone who's interested in how we how tax rates then how they're affected what's what's the tax capacity per household and then how the tax rate that 49 percent of what i mean what's 49.09 of what and so yeah what does it mean so maybe you go through some of that i'm sure that future works but yep yep for sure try to try to get that worst case uh and then for the preliminary and then go from there so this is just kind of historical tax rate trends so as you can see we have been decreasing our tax rate over the last 10 years 11 years so um obviously we don't kept right here compete well with chaska chan house and eastern carver county but as far as western carver county we're really sitting good uh where our tax levy is in comparison yeah and council and staff right yeah and yeah keep in mind too that those those larger cities just they have they tend to have more business they tend to have more residential units to kind of spread spread the cost so but again yep if you you can see where we fit in there um so general view i just wanted to what we do know is we do know what our debt tax levy for 2022 will be it actually is a reduction from last year because we are seeing a reduction in our debt sewer service sewer that we love before so that's to pay that debt service is to help fund our which we're allowed to do our sewer utility um we do feel like we based on uh our long-term plan that will drop off eventually but at this time we still levy to keep that utility running uh in the in the black we can only do that for sewer correct right so as you'll see as we we have a long term plan on that to eliminate it out of our tax levy and get it back our enterprising funds should be running self-sufficient so we've done studies and that's where you see some of these increases we've been doing every year three percent increase based on that we know what number we have to get to to make sewer run self-sufficient so we don't have to levy right the money is still coming we either levy it and keep rates lower or don't levy it and rates go up a little bit but at least then we're transparent where the money is truly going to and what it's for so residents have a good idea what it's for yes and then you'll there are there will also be some of these that are falling off in the next couple years and as we've talked about with the fire station in our street projects we're kind of planning around that so especially with the fire station that is a lower number than we projected we had to just we had to determine a number last year based on not having the final uh final bond payment approved and so we did guess 75 that did that was high and so this year we do have that the actual debt levy or the actual number that we need to levy and that is lower and is that interest only that's uh yes so that's interest and then as i mentioned we're kind of wrapping um we were able to do interest for two two to three years until we're able to have some other debt fall off so it keeps our debt amounts stable so we were able i don't know if you have any questions about that we were we were being strategic in that once some debt was falling off we were adding it back on so that our the debt portion is stable just that was our way of being able to finance the new fire station essentially and our and our upcoming street projects because we knew we had debt quality right i think that some of these other older bonds will be paid so ellers i think was ellers that came in and walked through and said we can do two years of interest paint only on the fire station loan so that your tax impact is lower or not as high and then once those other bonds fall off then we would add in the principal and it's yeah yeah so it allows our tax rate to stay stable and allows us to again also fund our future street projects without our tax rate jumping significantly it keeps us below the debt we can only carry so much debt right our statute so that keeps us below that threshold of what we can carry too yep so that yeah so that shows that it will be lower this year but then um we'll see again we'll have to reassess for 2023 but i think we'll see something very similar um and then again right now we only know our debt service levy our capital fund we will review again if we're able what money we're able to put in to those capital funds to build those up this year um my preliminary assessment of the general levy i believe is going to be very similar to i don't see any real significant changes in the general levy so um i'm expecting not a similar to 2021 final maybe a little bit of an increase but i just wanted to give you an idea of our historical general fund levy in the next couple years uh that tax rate is predicted uh based on our plan go up uh four or five percent if i remember right is there any way we can we should be looking maybe balancing that to try to bring some of that yeah so what i've been looking what i've been looking at is when we do have years like this where i think things will come in a little bit lower we can maybe add a little bit more in the capital to build up those funds so then when those other pro those other jumps happen we can reduce the capital amount so we can then our tax rate will stay pretty consistent so i think it's again that capital fund is where we can fluctuate but i think this year would be a good year to maybe increase it and then maybe when there's a jump later we can reduce it but then still have the same amount that we were planning in those funds yeah it'll be a balance of course me personally would like to still stay around the 50 if we can and not have you know big fluctuations right yeah and i again it's all about um just researching priorities and kind of looking at being strategic so if we held the same so our tax capacity is based off of one percent of your home value you take that one percent and then we get taxed 49.9 percent of that one percent so even if we stayed the same and kept it at 49.9 taxes will likely go up because people's prop their values home values are likely going to go up some so that's where there's some of that misconception oh taxes went up well we did we held our tax rate but yes they went up some but your house value went up you know so that's so right and to sell it you would be coming out ahead on that based on what it went up so yeah and we will get those numbers in august kind of the market value increase that we've seen since last year um but yeah we just didn't have those available yet i suspect they're still going up yeah right yeah i'd like to stick about kind of where we're at for that number yep it sounds good uh i'd like to just know how many homes are coming on the tax bracket because we got to be getting close where some of those yeah so i did first um right now we have ten um that's based on i think end of june but then we do have the eighth edition of cool i'm talking about like these ten homes we won't have right in our values until 2023 so i'm curious of like yeah so that yeah so in august we'll get um the what was the the growth that's from the new houses that were built um two years ago yeah okay yep so that'll be one wasn't or something yeah i believe it was it was in the low 30s that we got that were built that's kind of been our average between 25 and 35. so that'll yeah that'll show up in our august report um yeah so then again just going over what i said before what are your takeaways what do you what are um some of the challenges we're seeing but what are what are what do you consider a priority what do we want to focus on and are there any specific programs or services also that we want to focus on so again tonight is just really as we start staff starts looking at our budgets um what do you want us to look at what are the priorities i'm hearing the 50 tax rate is kind of what we're shooting for again um staff will i'll be printing off the budgets for each department and then we'll be sitting down and reviewing those but we're open to any kind of feedback right now as when we start that process to make sure that we're working within council's priorities any comments any thoughts from anyone that want to start out no i remember last year when you brought everybody's capital improvement plans and their priorities for the coming years so that we can kind of see it and then i agree with mike that if we see those bigger increases coming do you slowly start a little bit now knowing that next year we might have to have a bigger increase because of some of the things yeah knowing it and just talking about what you had said about moving you know that yeah just kind of being strategic and planning for those big bigger jumps so that we can feel confident we can you know reduce in some areas then yep yeah and continue to move forward with our cips yeah like i've said you know the last couple years now we're finally digging out of that hole and actually getting ahead ahead of the game and let's continue that momentum i would like to focus you know and again i don't know how much this has to do with the budging side of things but certainly development and getting more more lots available so we can get back into the 30s versus the 10 or 12 or 15 we may do and we're just running out a lot so what it might take for these developers or we can help i like to also see what we can do for get businesses you know knowing that this coffee shop has been talking is there something we can do or something you know to help the community get that going or you know that's been a while now this buzz about it people have been talking about it looking forward to it but um you know it is there and i don't know if the eda can jump in and help out what we can do or even county eda for that matter but i'd like to see what we can do to keep them uh or get them up and running as businesses come in okay the lots are a big thing i see what we can do with developers see what we can do to get them going because the eighth edition's all we've got right now okay um yep yeah the as far as new platted lots yeah i think we have like i think we have some scattered lots but otherwise it's not very many anything else those are a lot of those are a lot of my comments um you know what was it this year we we're going to look at did we raise water rates for 2021 and we're going to relook at it in 2022 was that kind of our we're going to re-look at it in 2022 so i did talk with the financial advisor um who did our rate study and they said they're advising that we do one more rate increase for 2022 but then third year out of the plan that's our third year of the plan or fourth that will be our i think we did the plan in 2018 so we did 19 20 21 it'll be our fourth and then we talked about five we talked about five yeah but then we i he they were on board with reassessing next year they felt that that was appropriate to reassess i would think it is yeah just to get a re-handle on where we are and i mean everything's fluid everything's changing okay good can we also find out potentially what's going on with the car wash and laundromat oh yeah i'm going to open them both i'm just curious to and i'm glad to see uh quite a few work sessions and i think it'll be valuable for the new council members who want more just to get them up to speed and obviously any questions contact maggie ahead of time anything come in if you want to sit down with an hour with her and it can get up to speed but i think these work sessions and i liked having printouts of of things so i don't know if you know yeah i could print them out ahead of time but then you know sometimes on the ellers reports like make sure that the grids that show the years or whatever are all on the same page and not like i know you looked on the next page um that'd be awesome like if you can say hey nikki i have your print out you can just stop up and grab it they can send me a like a working document that i can print it all on one on larger people for me also okay yeah just because i like to make notes and then it's just easier than looking at my computer screen when it comes to the budget i found that really helpful okay maggie do you have you heard anything on the lga money is it going to be the same more or less oh lga i think it's going up like maybe 10 grand so it's not significant but it is going up good uh everything i've been hearing with the state budget that that may be this may be a big last year of a nice one you know who knows what will happen with state budgets but right um if we see any change in that we certainly have to get our legislators our representatives in here and talk with them if they if there's any talk so keep kind of keep your pulse uh and check on the pulse of that to kind of see where lga is going it's just hard for uh for these smaller communities to compete and what is the lga local government aid that we get from the state there's a lot of algorithm they use and for money we get from the state okay try to balance things out a little bit and i think last year what do we get about 270 thousand 280 it's i think it's up to like 330. oh okay yeah it was at the 200 so that's i remember i guess that was a couple years ago good okay um anything else for megan meg do you have any other questions do you have anything else you need i don't think so um yeah if anything comes up individually you can reach out to me and we can sit down and um but i think um no i think this is good a good start yeah feel free to reach out to her really if anyone has anything and this is one of our biggest items coming up now for for councils these budgets very important um it's one of the big so let's make sure we're prepared but when you say like staff is gonna go do it right like kyle's gonna go and put together what his priorities are and yep so we just we will sit down um and go we usually go based on again our cips that we've put together like project priorities for 2022 we'll focus on enterprise cips and then public works and then fire department so what we do is we take those and we look at what's coming up in 2022 and if if we want to focus on that or change it at all um and then we just also go through the trends of other you know minor maintenance or other operation costs and just see where we think things will come in at 2022. so i do let public works kind of decide well i'd do some part of it but kyle then kind of goes through his budget too like how much do i think i need for uh sand or wood chips for the parks and based on historical numbers and so we're just kind of they the department heads they kind of put together their preliminary stuff or priorities and then we'll sit down and kind of talk it through and then i kind of then put it all together to see how it all fits and if we need to make any adjustments but then again i'm very much i'm going to bring it to counsel have them review it talk about how we made those decisions and then make any changes that the council wants to make so so it's kind of yeah staff it's a lot of back and forth we kind of go line by line so it's pretty you know we talk each line like okay public works and then here's public works and it kind of goes through like what yeah like operations like again very simple stuff there's how much did we spend on phones last year or electricity or gas or what should we need for maintenance of the vehicles and stuff like that just to make things most of it remains pretty consistent yeah yeah it is pretty consistent unless we have equipment replacement and that sort of thing then it kind of jumps around but we try to be consistent between each year not that one year we only have five grand next year we have 100 grand type things and we pretty much have all our cips our long-term five-year plans now for everything now we've invested a lot of time and money in the last four four years getting those sets so we have a good idea from a planning standpoint you know the firefighters will need to turn out gear every ten years so we're setting aside ten thousand dollars every year for that knowing we gotta do it ten years so we're okay like i said we're finally getting out of that hole and planning ahead and getting getting money saved for these appropriately so again with a lot of work yeah and by maggie kyle and the fire chief it's right we're sitting we're in a good spot yeah and so by putting a little extra money away in different departments then we also plan for the kind of the long term and we don't have to have so if kyle needs i think one thing we're talking about it's eventually a public works expansion to their building so we're putting aside maybe we're trying to put aside a little bit money a little bit of money each year so that we don't do like a two hundred thousand dollar three hundred thousand dollar purchase at one time that impacts the levy significantly so what we're doing is we're like okay if we can fit in within our capital budgets 50 000 this year to put towards that building in the future that makes sense so that we're not having these big dollar amount items come up you know in one year so trying to yeah tools all right anything else to relate to maggie nope you got a good starting point though yep nope that's great thank you all right with that then we will adjourn