You got me right in there. Very good. Good. Zone me right in. All right. Good evening. Uh like to call to order my ETH uh park board meeting. It is now 6:30. And if we could rise and say the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Um, I would like to add to I believe business probably. Um, we have a representative here from from Discolf uh that would like to talk about a potential tournament that they'd like to put together. So, um, I would like to add that. Do it right away with that. Do it right away. First item. Yeah, let's Yeah, we can do that. We'll do it. Yeah. As soon as we get done, let's do it right away. All right, with that addition, I will look for a motion to approve tonight's agenda. Motion second. All in favor say I. I opposed. Motion moves on. Uh minutes from last month. Um everything I found no issues. Of course, I'm not very wellable with finding spelling corrections and stuff, so I'm not sure if anybody else has anything. If not, I will look for a motion. Motion. Second. All in favor say I. I. Motion carries. All right. On to business. take it away. The first item is yours. You added to the agenda. I did. I did. So, um, we were informed last night, uh, we had our baseball club meeting last night, um, that some of the awesome designers of our golf course will have, uh, an idea of potentially to kind of get the word out and whatnot to host a disc golf tournament. So, with that, well, you want to bring up some of the you guys kind of get a I don't know if you guys have seen all of the work we've done, but Oh yeah, greatly appreciated. We're 18 hole disc golf course, so it's enough holes to host like tournaments, have leagues, um you know, sanctioned, unsanctioned events. Um so my kind of vision is to continue to kind of like let this blossom and grow. um add features, add things down the road, you know, make it kind of a premier disc golf course for the area, you know, one that people want to come and play along with some of the other courses, but a big draw is having like disc golf tournaments um eventually. Obviously, it's too late this year because the city fest is just next week, but to add on to that event, it' be cool to have, you know, disc golf tournament like in the morning as part of one of the activities just to kind of add to it. But for this year, um, sometime in September, I was thinking maybe the first couple weekends after Labor Day, having kind of a grand opening community event slash tournament. And along with that, um, having some items that can like commemorative items that you can give out to people attendance or community. um members and um that's one that I asked for from the mayor baseball to help fund that. Um there's companies like Inova Disc Golf where we got the baskets from. They can do different packages where they'll do like custom discs that have you know like the day um near this golf course like a grand opening. and I have some ideas for that custom stamping that they they do. Um, so that's kind of what I'm thinking. Um, as far as this one, you can do like an unsanctioned event, get people from the community have different um, like levels like a advanced just to a recreational player um, just kind of for everybody. Um, yeah. Do you guys have any other questions? I don't know. So, would you head it up? Yeah, I would help head it up. Um, what you could do, there's kind of different ways to do it. Um, so there's different programs like apps like this disc scene where you can advertise the uh tournament and that's where if you want to have like a a fee to play that all the money would go for that into that and then would get distributed to the people that like did like the top three or whatever in each division. So it kind of gives people incentive to want to come and like play. Um generally sometimes they'll do like a players pack with that and that's where like the money from the baseball association would come in. So they would get a couple discs or they would get for playing the tournament. Or you could just have that money set aside that, you know, a window before the tournament, anybody comes can get a disc or something, you know, open that to like the community. Does that make sense? But like if you do like where it's, you know, let's say it's $20 to enter the tournament separate from that, then that would give another draw for people to come in because if they placed, you know, the top three or the top five or whatever, they would get some kind of a cash reward for that. Kind of generally how they work as far as like tournaments go. How many people usually make it to the tournament? Well, it just depends. Um I mean I think they try to cap it at like 70 people or 75 people. Um now the uh Buffalo part of their um city days or whatever there's a course 18ole course at the church there Buffalo Covenant and it's an unsanctioned event kind of like we would have. I think they got like 40ome people. It kind of get it grows every year. H what do you need to do to make it a ch san sanctioned well I don't know I'm kind of learning myself because I'm newer to this um with that makes a little more tricky because then people have like PDGA like professional disc golf like numbers and then it rates them and if you have unsanctioned people they'll charge them a little bit more to play but I kind of want to keep it you know approachable keep approachable to where yes, you can have like an advanced um tier to it for people that are really competitive, but then you can have the wreck level like myself for people that just want to, you know, that are in the community that want to play. Okay. So, I know like you I I know you've talked and and you know, Jason's talked to you guys use multiple discs discs to throw. Is it possible to use one? Yeah, you can play you can play with as few as one disc or 100 discs. So, so even if it was something say a tournament where we handed out the discs just for showing up and playing, right? Um that person could use that disc to play. Yeah, they could. So, I would one thing that I'm kind of a newer to intermediate player. So there's certain lights with working with like ina you would tailor it to a disc that is most common maybe like a mid-range or a fairway driver. Like I wouldn't get a long distance driver because they they're like the really like thick rimmed ones. Okay. Those are for more like advanced players. So yeah, it would be like items that anybody can use. And like sometimes the player packs, they could be a fairway driver, a towel to wipe your disc with, maybe like a like a popkin koozie kind of a thing, like stuff like that. Okay. And that can all be like ordered through like, you know, or something. Okay. And what like what would a like a mid-range like what what price you're looking at for like a one of those? So, um, if it's not stamped, let's just say what it normally is, it like five or 10 bucks or something. And they can be as cheap as um under $10 up to because they do like there's different premium plastics. So, if you have like a higherend plastic, you know, you can go from 20 like if you pay $30 for a disc that's pretty expensive disc. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of the cool thing about this sport is that it's very accessible. You know, you can play with one disc or you can have a whole bag full of discs, you know, and they're pretty common. You can go to, you know, there's even no middle school. So, I really like that idea like if we did have like Yeah. a grand opening tournament or whatever that for people who just wanted to check it out like that they could come and get a disc and they could play, right? um even if that included like their me you know their fee to maybe maybe that's most of the cost of the disc is their fee or whatever but that's something you could it's easy then it's like oh I sign up and I get a disc I can go play for the day that's that's pretty cool or is it possible then we as as the park board could we sponsor say like three spots well I guess that's where I want to circle back to who's actually running it um do you have experience in running a tournament. So I have my friend um Greg Netalship. So he actually is a ambassador rom and he's very experienced. [Music] How many people does it generally take to run a tournament? Um for something like this it probably like myself and someone that's it. So you guys would do advertising and signups. So there's there's a couple Facebook groups or like there's a Hutchinson okay disc golf group and there's like a Twin Cities um disc golf group that has like maybe like up to like over 10,000 people that are do they use so you advertise there and then also through those like disc scenes that's where so that's nice if you go through an app like that um that's where people sign up that's where they Okay. So, it's kind of taken care of. They could put all of your caps and all of that like that. So, a separate aside from like let's say the the baseball. So, the but the baseball association would do would pay for like the extra that we'd be giving out the money that's collected for the like signing up. That money would get distributed to the top players who play the tournament. So they get a decent money. I mean I mean if you get depend on how many people $20 usually unsanctioned events like this go anywhere from you know 15 to $30 to sign up. That's the the sanctioned ones. I mean people they get rated they get points and they can be like $50 $60 to sign up. So, um, you know, if you get say $20 person, you get 70 people minus the cost of the disc and whatever you're paying whatever you're paying the app that's for the 10 20% or something the the money for whatever given players pack or the money that's what would be coming from the donation. Okay. I just I want to find some way that we can get the community to come and play. And that's that's you know I think it's great to have agreed players from all over to advertise this. Sure. I just want to make sure that we have a way for locals to get in into it and involved and not push them out by feeling I'm this guy plays like weekly and I'm like Joe Blo never thrown one you know or I suggested that like let's say you know let's say the tournament started at 1:00 from you know 10 to 1 have like kind of like an open house style okay that's where you could get something that sounds great. Okay, that would make more sense. Right. And then if they wanted to stay and play the tournament, they could then we have to advertise it in our community because not every majority of people in our community are not on those Facebook groups, right? Myself included. So, we'd have to find a way. I mean, we have next door. We have Yeah. The only thing about dates, um, the mayor fire department 125th is on September 20th and then music in the park is the next weekend on September 27th. So if you're looking at dates in September, you probably do not want to do either of those dates. I'm thinking either the Well, Greg, he can do Saturday the 9th. What's the Saturday after Labor Day? The sixth. The 6th. Yeah. kind of like that day or the next like Saturday. Okay. Beginning of the So after Labor Day, so you have about a month and a half to get everything up and running. That's feasible. Um I don't know. I think so. The baskets just arrived. I'm going to help facilitate getting those built. 19 baskets to build. The signage is in final stages that should go for production this week. Well, like Yeah. And the signage that doesn't have to happen right away either because um there's another app that most players use called UISK and once Jason hits live on that then it'll be uploaded and then people can follow GPS. I think that the only thing with piggybacking with like what you said with it being a grand opening, it'd be nice for people to see it done. I understand what you're saying, but yeah, to go out and see it and its glory, I guess, not opposed to it. I'm just seems like a short window, but Well, we kind of had a short window putting it together, too. So I mean it's it's you know one of the biggest issues they have is let's say you know they donate the money getting it to where it's you know from a is a 401 thing and then having the city maybe giving it to the city paying like say Inova and then they have a lead time to get the hot stamping on there probably four weeks or three weeks or something. Yeah. I'd say probably like tops is like four weeks. Yeah. Be kind of some Yeah. be a little tight, but I think we can do it. Yeah. I have no problem. I I think it's a great idea. I think introducing it. Like I say, I just want to make sure that the community has an opportunity. Um and that's why I was asking if you could play one disc, right? If the if the community shows up, they get a disc, they get to try it, you know, they get, you know, Yeah, they're not going to be multi-iskers right off the bat. I know I won't be Well, that's a really approachable thing like come check it out. There'll be some people there to talk and talk to you and we're even that like window before the tournament starts. Yeah. People would be free to go and play the course, check it out. Yeah. And then even with the tournament, that's where you'd have you have your two different sections where you have your advance and then you'd have your wreck. So then someone if they were like, I don't know, I kind of want to join or start throw the tournament, but that would be like a division for that. Yeah. You don't have to feel like you're competing against I I even be, you know, the bottom tier. Yeah. Do you think uh I mean I know you said you're kind of a little bit new to it or whatever like has there been have you been to other uh like inaugural tournament type of thing like and it's just kind of curious like how not not one where um where we opened course but I've been to other like couple tournaments. Yeah. Yeah. I was just kind of curious like what because you said that one in Buffalo draws like 40 or something people now. I'm just kind of curious like if it's tough to tough to get one off the ground with a brand new, you know, a brand new course or do you feel like the community is always kind of like give me another place to play? They're usually pretty good about give me another place to play. Yeah. But if you do have some of those parameters with like get something and then there could be a cash prize. That's definitely Well, there's a draw coming. And I did the the summers. So Minnesota is one of the like top states for disc golf in the nation. And we just had the world's um masters tour come through. There's like five or six different courses that they played. Over a thousand people came. Wow. So every weekend is pretty like hooked up. But those two weekends of September, there isn't a lot of like big tournaments. Nothing's advertised. So get on there going on. Yeah. Okay. Do you have Go ahead. Do you have worry um you know, you've been looking into this quite a bit like do you have worry with I feel like couple times I've looked at getting started on those kind of apps and stuff like that. There's usually like a time period you got to get your bank accounts set up. I mean like is there any worry like that stuff wouldn't be functioning? Like my um friend Greg is pretty like knowledgeable on this. Okay. Does that app then set up the tournament for the day then too or does somebody have to physically do that? And is there a sign up date like or can people sign up the day? Yeah, there would be like a dead there's usually a deadline you need to sign up by this date or the registration will close. So with that said would would say I go up there and I'm like I can do this. I want to join the tournament. You can't Would I be able to that day? I mean, yeah, you can kind of set the rules. I mean, some places will be like it's an extra fee if you sign up that day. Okay. But I think we get to kind of like make the rules. Yeah. Okay. But this is so this is the app right here. This scene. So then you can click on tournaments. Let's see. Okay. There's flight deck. Can you see? It'll have all the information. How many people is one person signed up? At this point, they'll have a button to register. It'll have like all the different information, what time it is, the different classes of, you know, what it costs to like be different divisions. So, that app kind of helps advertise too, does it? Yep. Yep. Like to ping certain tournaments in your area or something like that. Okay. And then the the other app that I um disk that actually has a map if you go anywhere in the country and it'll have the little icon the area you're in. It'll show you where like the disc golf. It's actually so if you look on there right now it has our course listed. It just says under construction not available. Wow. Is there a cost of these apps? Not for that. I mean, you can get the person that anybody can register it on there for free, but if you want the premium package, like if you're that would be up to the individual to like buy that and they get added like features and they're taking a little cut of whatever the course fees are or the, you know, the registration fee is and whatever. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm assuming they probably do. And then there's um they've got some stuff on there with like cancellation and returns and stuff like that too. I know for like I think Greg he is available on that Saturday the the six. So I think this sounds awesome. Um, it sounds like you, you know, you're pretty far along with like conceptual level planning the event. Like what do you need from the city? I don't I mean it doesn't sound like you need much from us. No, just the approval to do it and go Well, we would also need to advertise. You have to share the app. You have to make sure that make sure everything's done. Can we get it on the next uh water bill flyer? That one will come out in August. August. So yeah, probably got time. Couple weeks at least. So we have a That's kind of your deadline for advertising for us anyhow. We need to have it by then. Couple weeks out from having because the pads are in, the sleeves are cemented in. We have the baskets. Those arrived on Monday, but they need to be assembled. You need to assemble the baskets and then you slide them in and then you lock them in place. Uh and the signage, right? we have here right now. Sponsorship. I'll take one home. Sponsorships we can continue to work on, but we'll have the main course sign up along with the the T signs. Yeah, the sponsorships we can put up on the post as they become sponsored. It's probably somebody you could advertise that day, too, if you want to be a sponsor if we don't have them filled yet. Whatever hasn't filled. the main core sign, the T- signs, those are going to get ordered this week. We're finalizing just making sure the T signs are all it's coming down to the what the ver the verbiage on the bottom right here. Right. Once we got the sign off on that, then it's off to the sign shop for production. We should get those within a week, I would think. So then would the city or would the park board be in charge of deciding what the fee should be and all of that for the tournament? I don't know if we want to get that in depth. I don't think you guys necessarily would need to. I think we would handle that on our end. Yeah. I'd almost encourage keeping it like your guys. I think that's generally how they do it because like you know I played more in uh they at Stein Lake Park they do their ribfest. So they'll have a doubles tournament every year and there is a individual that takes care of that and sets all that up like the director. Mhm. And the city just allows them to do it while the festival's going on. That's what I'm thinking. We allow the use of the property. They handle the rest. That's we would just need to know what you guys are going to charge to advertise it and the deadlines and all of that. Yeah. Yeah. For you to advertise it, Mr. Facebook. I would have them give us the advertising materials and then we would throw it up on our Yeah. platforms and the other would thing kind of kick is getting the money and then getting it to like let's say Inova and then getting them ordered and pressed. I can I'll I'll talk more about that. I say we kind of have to have an idea of how many we need to order though. Like we don't need to order like under order over orderer. Well, some of this has to do That's what I mean. I feel like there's with discussion from last night, so I don't know how much I can say. Let's talk oneonone. Yeah. Okay. So, that gets more into the operations end of things, right? And I can simply handle that. Yeah. I do I don't I have kind of an idea. There is a example of this particular tournament that's coming up. I don't know if you guys want to see that. Sure. I'd be interested in seeing we could possibly have Right on. So, I guess we just have to basically give look for a motion uh to approve the use of the course for the tournament. Would we have to even have a motion on that? It's kind of open to the public. I mean, like when when does a line get drawn? What if there's a tournament? Then don't we have to announce to the public that it's not open to the public this day? Because there is a tournament going on the public. That makes sense. You can also do that on the new disc, you can put on there. So like when they had the big worlds tournament last weekend, the courses that they're normally like open to the public courses, it would say like restricted closed event, right? But some teens that want to go throw discs when it's, you know, they need to know that it's not open except for, you know, during the open house hours or if they're playing in the tournament. So then do we need to make some separate signage then of that and just have it generic so we can use it for But I think that they would have that up. Well, I guess if we're piggybacking it as a grand opening, there's more involvement with this one. Maybe not in the future, right? But there is more on our end for deciding to help I mean to help facilitate it in my opinion. Right. Because then shouldn't we be there if if it's the grand opening of the disc golf course? Right. It kind of feels to me like that's ours and then you guys are having a tournament there in the afternoon. So the open house hours would be the hours that we would be there. Yeah. The more the more of the morning. Yeah. Say 10 to 1. is that that you're welcoming the public. You know, this feels it feels like the city is it sounds like the baseball clubs may be interested in sponsoring some discs, but I mean, it feels like something that the city could also do, too. Um, unless we have enough money to do as many discs as we want, but yeah, that feels like something like the cities or the baseball club is providing this as part of the grand opening. Could you maybe say a free disc to the first 50 people that sign up? That way you're not buying 150 discs and 30 people show up and you're stuck with 120 of them. You want a few extras in case like let's say you guys want you know but like generically speaking like I know there's a lot of like events around and they say a door prize to the first so many people. I kind of like having discs available for part of the community just to show up like not how do we even gauge how many we need to have. Well, you could say that's what I'm saying. You could say the first 50 people or whatever for 50 families that come like you know a disc or whatever. But you're not going to hand a disc out to like I've got four kids. Maybe you're not going to be handing out four discs. I think it's how many the baseball club wants to buy. It's going to be your money. If you buy a thousand, I don't care because the city's not paying for it. And then they're just And then there's in city hall. Like I mean if this by city hall you mean our dumpster. Okay. But are the discs only going to the people that participate in the tournament or are you doing something for the open house correct part? Be able to hand them out for the open house. Okay. But is the baseball club going to be then providing the discs for the open house portion or is that our job? I took it as baseball providing discs. They're providing the whole thing. The whole thing. Okay. Do we Okay, just playing devil's advocate. Maybe we want these separate events because it sounds like a tournament is really inclusive is really like I mean people are going to come out to this grand opening but watch people play a tournament. Well that would be that would be after like the open house part. I think it's important to have both is like a showing. Um because when I like one thing Greg said if you just have like an open house you may you're probably not going to draw as many people. So you kind of want to have like a combination of both so you can kind because you do like yes we want the community involved and showcase it to them but you also want to kind of get the word out as well. And I believe you're welcome to to stay for the tournament. Yeah. You can advertise it as a bookended open house. Like we're having open house from this time. There's going to be a tournament. You're welcome to sign up, right? Sign up, stay, watch. But I I think to get people involved in it, my myself included, I would like to go out and see somebody that does this. Yeah. Right. And if there's if there's multiple people that are there pl, you know, practicing, say they show up in the morning, they're practicing. Well, I can watch that then, right? It's not just a matter of this is an open house. this is only open to the community and now you guys can come in and play, you know, whereas that way I think anybody's welcome to come and and but the actual tournament will start at a set time. Sounds great. Um part of that during the open house, um one thing like I could ask Greg if he's comfortable because part of his ambassador like Neil is that he does throwing clinics. I don't know if you could do like Sure. a little clinic for people that just want to see, hey, how does this how do you actually grow this thing? Yeah. I I mean, and there again, I mean, that's something you guys can set up on your own. I just don't know if like I said, do we have to have a motion on them permitting them to use the course or is it just I don't know. So, that would come from the city council. Okay. Authorizing closure. Essentially, it's a closure of the course like for a private event. For a private event, okay, in time and if it becomes a regular thing, it would simply happen like when the mayor rising community festival goes on. I'm sure in the beginning the city had to give authorization for it to happen at the park, but as time goes on, that's just when it happens. So, I suppose we would recommend approval to the council. Yeah, that and that's follow. That's why I was checking code real quick. But then we have one more meeting to get our side of things planned for it, right? Which Well, when is so we would maybe action on it next time then is if we're making sure everything's in line. Is there a city council meeting is over every two weeks, right? Yeah, we have next Monday. But I would say I would think you would be able to move move forward with getting some of your stuff in line that you need to get in line, right? Because your your time is going to go very quickly, right? Yeah. Right. So, I mean, but I think that, you know, I I wouldn't see a reason why the council would say no. Yeah. I think you you could condition the approval on having it ready, right? Sure. I don't see why you wouldn't say. So, we could recommend we could recommend recommend approval condition now and then let them I mean, it's just I think it's just a matter of getting the word out there that we have one and Yeah. introducing, you know, like I say, introducing some of the local people that are maybe interested in permits for private events or anything like that. These sort of thing. Nope. Okay. Similar how we don't have permits for a rising community festival. Just allow their use, which is interesting because other cities do and all that. We're not other cities. I don't know how I don't work at the beginning. We just say that it's always the same date. I know. Yeah, just with because we I went to that's one of the courses I went to was you know because they have to have security and road closures and well why not that all of that. Yeah one not really full it just goes out there. Yeah. Don't drive runs around. Yeah. We were at that. Yes. I was thinking if mayor got bigger bigger and busier with events then we would start implementing that kind of structure. Okay. Now, where is that line? I know because my neighbors are just asking about a block party. Yeah, I got that email and they're like, "Councilwoman Emily or Jackson?" I'm like, "Listen, folks, I don't know. We always talked about having one." See, we we have a policy on block parties. Okay. See, so there's for that. Yep. See, there you go. There is. So, especially if you're closing a road, but for stuff in the park, it's like, yeah, just ask counsel. But yeah, I think I think you know, you can communicate kind of back and forth on where things are at on the other end. you know, as far as you know, the the the baseball club type stuff. And we're not overcommitting ourselves because we've got two other events. Well, we're not really helping with the fire department, but we have the music. I mean, you can. I know. I know. So, I just want to make sure. No, this the city's end on this will be allowing its use and showing up in the morning saying, "Hey, welcome." You know, you give me promotional materials and I help spread it. Is there what's the process of getting food? That's on you. You probably have to call them and ask them. Anything from the city from that? Nope. We don't regulate food trucks. Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Yep. Yeah, that'd be the only thing. So, and then get a flyer. Get some promotional for a flyer because I know there's businesses in town here. We can put those flyers in, too. So, who runs the Facebook? There's three of us in the office, so we're pretty easy to Who's the very closest to the computer, right? Should be all of them, but it would be him and the water bill before. Yeah. When do you uh print that? Newsletter goes out the start of the month. Yeah. When do you print it? Um, we start working. She'll get that together the week prior. So, Friday prior, you have like a week and a half to get your that together because it's already mid July. Two weeks. So, if we could get that the 28th, by the 28th by the 28th to get into the newsletter. Get your group on it. to have involved. I think we're looking for Perfect. I think that'll work well. Is there like a QR code or something to that app you can include in your advertising because that'd be easy for um Greg might know. So yeah, I can re I can recommend you a graphic design artist. Now you might know one, too. Okay, perfect. You guys have any other questions? I I just say I'm really appreciate all your work and yeah, this sounds like a great Sounds like a great event. It'll be really cool. Well, it's just something that And then the cool thing is over time it can just grow and get better. Yeah, like I said, you can have leagues and then you can raise money for adding features to the and there's all kinds of you look online like you know you have your target the basket like you can do all kinds of crazy landscaping make it like super unique and cool. We definitely had like our course has there isn't too many like prairie courses so it's a little bit different. Okay, we have one of the targets that's on top of a big mound. You don't see that very often. So, we definitely try to use what we have, but there's definitely things down the road we can add to make it even better. Yeah. The only one I've been to is Crown, and they've got like a bridge with water and trees and Yeah. Cool thing about disc golf, it really just it's the one of the best ways to utilize a space that doesn't take a lot of maintenance. You don't have to really like the more obstacles and the more things you throw over the more trees. Like that's kind of what makes it better, you know? Like it isn't like traditional ball golf where they, you know, it's like everything's wide open. Yeah. You want, you know, as you get better, you shape the disc to go through trees and around stuff and so but it's very accessible to everyone. Yeah, it's a great sport. Way cool. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks for the info. Yeah. Am I good? You're good. You're free to leave, too. Thank you. Keep you posted on other stuff. We'll do. All right. Thanks. All right. Discussion on Memorial Park bench program. Do do we wait before we move on? Do we need to make a motion to recommend approval to the council or is it just would the board like to make I would like to I would move to make recommendation to the council to approve use of the disc golf course for this tournament. Do I have a second? Second. All in favor say I. I opposed. Very good. Can't believe I got that out in one try. Yeah, that was and it was smooth. It's very professional. All right. Memorial Park bench program. Thank you, chair. Uh, so we've the city has a Memorial Bark Memorial Park bench program. Yep. And um it's in desperate need of updating. It was enacted back in 2020 uh back when prices on things were a whole lot better. And uh we didn't have anybody really take advantage of it till here recently. And we got the one bench. And this is the spec sheet for that bench that was selected at the time in 2020. Yep. It was that. And then when we got it, the uh the quality was not what we were hoping it would be. Let me get over to here. So, what we did is we ended up we stripped the boards off, public works did, and then um put better boards on than what it originally came with because we just weren't satisfied with the quality that we got. Um, that being said, the program, existing program asked for $500 to cover the cost, which doesn't even come close. Uh, the plaque and the bench together were $800. And then we have you have concrete cost, time, public works, putting it in, what have you. So, you're talking $3,000. That all depends on what kind of bench you really want to go with. This one was 7 This was 720 bucks and the plaque was $80 to go on there. So, that being said, uh looking to revamp the program, I put together uh program documents for a revamp. This one just adds some more guidance on the whole thing, how the process goes. I think the thrust of it is we don't put a price on there. I was researching what other cities do. Some have a cost. I saw anywhere from a,000 to 2,000 bucks depending on the bench that is pre-selected for that. Or other cities would say whatever the market dictates for whatever the pricing is at the time. So if you want a Memorial Park bench, you throw in your application. Staff would then go get the what the cost is. Yeah. To have it produced and transported and installed and go, "Yep, this is your price. If you still want to move forward with it, let us know." Yep. And we don't I would say go with that kind of do we um in with the old program I mean like the old program it was $500 like I'm assuming we we just cover whatever the remainder was. Are we in this new program or are we is it then 100% donation funded? That's the idea basically. Yes. That's what I saw a lot of the other cities were. They didn't do matching funds. It wasn't you give this we give this. It's we offer up the program to allow it to go into a park, but you're responsible for the cost. Sure. Okay. Have you done any research as to where people are ordering these from? Currently, there are many different park bench manufacturers out there. And that gets to a question of what style we want to go with, right? This is the one we have um in Discovery Park. This is the style of bench that's up there that we have. You have your standard powdercoated steel. I don't like those. Well, that's kind of like the state fair, right? Don't they have that where they put people's names on it? Don't they Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that. Not nearly as nice. I think if you're going to want to honor somebody, then they probably want it to look nice. Like bench looks very nice. That is a nice bench. But the nice thing was new mounting a plaque on it. I don't know how you Where is that one? This one is on the south leg of the old school house trail. Yep. That one looks like it's ready to cut someone's leg open. You said it's black. I started looking at benches and I started realizing that one's not going to replace benches sooner rather than later. Well, that was kind of why I asked about the even along the trail, they're starting a little That's kind of why I asked about cost participation. I what what that was because like I know we identified some like needs for benches as part of you know when we did our scoring like if if we have I guess it's fine if we're saying all of our bench program is via donation I that's fine or are we are we saying we're going to commit to the doing the ones that we ranked highly and then if anybody wants that the rest are extra yeah I was say how many people actually ask about well it sounded like none for a long time, right? So, I Chuck was the first one that I dealt with and then that's not very many. The Lions Club wants to do a couple. Okay. Okay. Well, that's So, we've had three benches of interest in five years of having, but it looks like maybe we need to invest in some new benches. Well, I even discovered it when we went to the basketball court. There's not even one there. And I finally realized at Discovery Park or the one by Zion. Yeah. I was like, we could use a bench or two here. I was sitting on the ground. Mhm. Yeah. Ants crawling up. We talked about that. We talked about some volleyball court. Yeah. Talked about some, you know, just just Yeah, we briefly talked about and it's like it's actually a bigger need than I realized that we need. Some of them don't. I think some of the parks are fine, but I think that's going to be the discussion. You're going to have park benches that you want there and you're not going to want to wait till somebody wants to put in a memorial bench. Correct. High demand. This is where we just got to have them as even if you didn't have a bench program like this, you'd be still putting in a bench. Correct. But then you have other locations along trails or maybe an added bench at that those facilities that you could certainly Right. And that's stipulated in the uh program documents. donors can make suggestions on where they would like it located specifically. Ultimately, it'll be for city approval. I mean, say some we put a new bench in here and somebody absolutely wanted that bench. They could be add a plaque or something, right? They could be paying for Well, it's fine. They're just It's already there. Yeah, but they would still pay the same fees. They're just That's now their bench. And then we add that to the program. We can put a new one in wherever we want, right? Yeah. So that's that's essentially the program documents kept it to a two uh two pager just that uh you can suggest where it will go. City will be the ultimate approval of it. But unless they unless they're really wacky about it, we're not going to and same goes for the engraved plaque. They'll suggest what they want on it to have it subject to city approval just so they don't get the odds of it happening are incredibly slim, but as soon as you don't stuff in there that I don't like and then ultimately the cost is borne by the donor. Yeah, that sounds good to me. Yep. Yep. I agree. It was time for an update. I mean, we had just put that together just cuz we had had been asked the question and then there was no follow through. Yeah. Right. So, at the time it was just like, okay, what do we do? So, as far as that, if there's a particular style you guys Well, it doesn't seem like mayor has a uniform theme. I personally like the one that we had speced like of the pictures you showed like I like that one the best. I think I do too actually. Do this but we just get a better quality of that. Is it Is this like that? Uh it's like plastic. Yeah, it's like the stuff you put on a tricks. Yeah, it's probably going to last. Well, that was my comment. kind of like that versus like, you know, the other one looks really really nice, but I I mean wood even really well finished wood doesn't last super long outside. We finish it. So I And that was us in a pinch. We've got it. We're we assembled it and went So this wasn't this wasn't what that one looked like. This is considered it was like this but much lower quality. Oh, okay. All right. All right. I was going to say I was like, "What's wrong with this? I like this a lot." Yeah. If you like this style, I will find one that is in a good quality. Yeah. Yep. I like it too because it's installed on the ground and you doesn't look like is that concrete work under that or is it just tipping it in? You probably just So maybe you're saving money on concrete by just doing footings, right? Or whatever. Well, that's inside of a playground. You'd still want it on top of a a concrete pad. Otherwise, you wear the grass off in front. They got to try and mow around it. It's just a lot simpler. If it's concrete pad, you mow around it, you're done. Yeah. If if it's not in set within the playground itself, which I would bet the majority of yours be like this. If it's along a path, if it's sitting on the outside of a playground, a budding, it's going to be on a path. On a p just for ease of maintenance. But I do like the maintenancefree. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, for sure. material. For sure. Okay. All right. Examples on that. Nice. Thank you. Review items for music in the park. Music in the park. Uh Michael Handler is booked. Glitter ponies is booked. Archery is booked. Bounce houses. That's where we'd like to make a decision. So last year we did the threein one wacky combo and then we also did the tiger bounce house with slide. Yep. Which aren't those? Those are the ones. Not I that wasn't our photo. No, that wasn't our but that's Yeah. pictures of them. I'm not logged in so I can't see more photos. And forgive me but we monitor these. We run these just kind of set them up. I don't think we really they do their own. Somebody doesn't stand there and allow people to come in and I'm pretty sure everyone I've been to with my kids, there's somebody saying only so many people can be in there at a certain time that I'm talking about inflatables. I think mine I think when I put through my kid inside that tiger, it was go ahead your own scopey come out alive. I think that's kind of how we did it. Okay. Back in my day, we had pee gravel and metal bars and I was just I'm with you. Listen, I yelled at some kids at I just at one of the events was like do not climb on their kid down right now, right? But I mean that but that's the adult parent thing to do. See it as a babysitting too. I kind of feel like you should have somebody regulating how then we got to look for staff. I will sacrifice myself on the lamb. I will volunteer to monitor the violence houses this year. All right. Do they come when you rent them? Don't they come with safety protocol? Like how many people can be in? There is a plaque on the outside and that's it. I'm assuming you sign away all liability when you pick that thing up. Usually they come with instructions. It's like you say like a pool, you know. No, they set them up and everything. We don't talk. I know, but yeah, they Yeah, same with the festival. They'll just put them out the night before and we blow them up the day off. Plug it in. We're supposed to have volunteers, too. My daughter will be volunteering. Yeah. See, because I don't have volunteers protocol, but Okay. Yeah. And I guess to that point, I've never I've been helping out with city festivals for 15 years and we've had inflatables. It's just make sure the kids don't get too rough and don't allow too many. Yeah. I mean, that's I've never actually seen a safety guideline. Parents duty, is it? So now you're the you're at the bounce house. I know. Okay. Oh, yeah. They must put them in and talk to their friend. Make them cry. It'll be if there's beard involved. Yeah. Well, they won't be it. This one maybe. They used to have one of Dona days, but that's cuz you only got a limited amount of time. Oh, they set a timer. Yep. I remember running that clicker. You're done. Get out. See, that's what I remember from my kids. I mean, I would hate for somebody to get hurt. I remember when my kids were little, whenever they went in bounce houses, they were only allowed in there so many so many kids at a certain time and then they kick them out and let the next group in. It was a way to regulate it so kids didn't get hurt. So, it wasn't a liability for the city. So, it wasn't I mean, but you said that you haven't. So, if that's the way they run it now, that's fine. We've had them numerous years. We've never had anybody I don't know. Okay. Um, so we're picking pick two. Pick two. The the joust arenas are really fun. Uh, and you get some older kids play that. But if you want, but it's nice to have those things the little kids can do in particular. I think those joust things. They're like you put it's like two posts you stand on and then you like smack each other with them like in a it's kind of like it's kind of like you're the rockam sakum robots but you got like gladi wipe out. Yeah like Yeah. Gladiator or something. Those are but yeah those are I mean adults can do those too which is kind of fun. But it I mean it is I do like having them more for the kid. Like I have I have four and fivey olds. So I like you like have it after 8:00 inflatables. We always like I the the train one is kind of cool cuz that one's not available. Okay. They did say that one was not available. Okay. But like the obstacle course type thing is always What's the moon the moonwalk? What's that? I guess we don't have pictures. They told us we had to go at their Facebook page to find pictures. So there's the train. There's a train. There's the jungle one. We've had that one before. I don't have my phone so I can't Well, I have my laptop. I guess I can. Or is that the zoo bounce house with slide? And that's the Well, clearly that's the tiger one. One, the one where you're strapped in. You get like velcroed in and then you like from the wall. I don't know. There's one like that. That big slide one looks fun. Have they only have three pictures on their n if you're I'm not logged in here. There's a tiger one. That's really interesting angle of the tiger one. I think Freshwater's done that one. Yeah, I think we did. The tiger was good. I I like the tiger. This one might be the moonwalk one. See that slide? That big slide looks slide thing. Was that what you said last year? They have a a board. I don't know if they gave you that to you last year, but it says remember that last year. Safety rules right on the board. So, they didn't give us that last year. So, maybe they just don't have the board. This one might I don't know. I don't know what that is either. Out of the park. What if somebody gets hurt and sues the city? Do we for inflatables for real? I'm good with the What was the other one? Unless we're being crazy. I think that's right. Must be like an obstacle course type thing. The zoo thing looks fine. What is the name of the company? Midwest. Midwest Party Supply. Like that. That's Oh, I rented stuff from them before. We've had that one in the past. The Jungle Man. Yeah, we have. Mhm. That's the green one. I don't know. Remember when we had it set up down below? Yeah. Just like pin the tail on the donkey like this. These all look great. Right. I Exactly. Right. I don't think you could really The big long thing is the moonwalk obstacle course. Okay. That's what I thought. That looks fun. That looks fun. I like I like something other than you, right? That's the one where you're stra You're you get like I don't think you're strapped in for for this guy. Oh, that's some different This is the moonwalk. This is your jousting one. Oh, that's the moonwalk one. You're like going through all the little That's the one. Freshwater head. I think this is the jousting one. Yeah, that's that's where you like bonk each other. I don't know if we bonking each other in the head. I think those are that was my favorite. I mean, we we could actually get kind of violent on that. So, that one sounds like maybe a bloody nose if nobody is monitoring. I think they come with little like those masks. Oh, the head things. Oh, well that sounds like headlights, too. If that's the moonwalk, I think the moonwalk would probably be a good I think the moonwalk and I got to invite some council members. Yeah. Yeah, the one you want to help. Oh my gosh. Take out the garage. No, I think my votes for the moonwalk and the tiger. That's fine. All in favor of the tiger. I'm in the tiger. What does the moonwalk look like? That one I said freshwater. Yeah. Yeah. You like run through it and there's all these It's got like the the arms that like stop you. Yeah. Why is this Facebook in Spanish? Perfect for my get lost or whatever language. He's been there more than five minutes. Like that's why you want that one. We got a longer break. Yeah. Don't have a clue. So I hear Tiger and Moonwalk. That's That's what I'm I think Tiger, we got a pretty unanous unanimous vote. I If the moonwalk, all in favor of the moonwalk. I I [Music] There we go. Tiger moonwalk. I don't really care. I won't be in them. So, you never know. Yeah, we may need a Somebody's got to go in there and test it out. We might need make sure it's safe for all the kids. So before it opens then I can go in it. We may need bouncing it. You get the timer like two minutes is tops. SL park board. That's why I'm asking all the hard questions. Yep. There's the sign you're talking about. Yeah, it's there too. So maybe they'll bring us Maybe they only do it if it's like I think you turned a blind eye. Kate doesn't ever give us a sign. Um, any other reports? Any other things we need to know? Any other We got the back filling on the splash pad. Awesome. I want the snow cone machine, too. Once they're all They should finish up on the trail. What's the stockpile for? Stock pile. This the big mound behind it. Yeah. To uh just landscaped. Landscaped. We're going to put landscaping on top of it. Oh, just screen just to screen the uh No. Are we screening from like the sheds? Yeah. So people don't have to look at it if they're looking out that way. That's nice. Better aesthetic view. No, it's good. I did get a question about the Maybe this is more the city, but about the snow fence. My neighbors like, can they keep that up because it keeps the kids in. Is there any plans for this? Not at this time. We're going to go through a season, see how it goes. We'll make decisions next year. I figured I said I we haven't talked about it but she's like I love it. It's Sam because I love it too. My kids don't run out. It keeps them contained. Um stay up until grasses. I think it'll feel a lot different. That's one different thing. But I do think it'll feel a lot different once it's grass because it kind of felt treacherous like before when it just like looked like there was this drop off into the gravel basically into the abyss. I I can speak to mom saying it's nice having an enclosed area sit a little bit longer. She's like she's like she is but my kids just come to me for snacks or a towel. There's only one exit instead of running you know off. Yeah. I'm personally kind of like if they run off the other end and roll down the hill like for me that's good get a little more energy out opinion but like I but I did hear the same comment that it would a fence would be the fence is nice slash would be nice but yeah I think we let it go and see get some more feedback once it's actually gr might keep the hood ons out too we'll just hop you never get it's open on the one side oh Um, if anybody is bored on Saturday, I could use some volunteers for festival. I'm looking at everybody. Make me feel better because I I have to turn my chair. Who is running our table? Are we Yeah. Are we having a table? Cuz I You guys have You guys have a booth. Yep. So, I am precommitted. Works for That's where I am. I'm pre-committed. This is why I was like, "Do we want to add something else in September?" Well, I didn't realize it was pre-committed until Peggy informed me we were pre-committed. Right. See, this is what happens to me, too. Um, because we have actually advertising. You have been. You have been. See, that would be a good place to advertise that we're going to have a grand opening, too. Right. It's just not ready. Now, you've got to know before Saturday. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to know. We're just advertising that a disc golf course is availing. Can you say a potential grand opening? Is that possible? Yeah, we can mention that. Yeah, we're working on it. Be on the lookout. Yeah, maybe notice on Facebook and in the flyer. Possibly September 6th or something so people watch for it. We'll just I'll talk about it verbally because I've got the sign ordered and So, you're running the booth at this weekend? Yes, apparently. Sounds like it. So, what did you need help with? show up for a while. I'm sorry. So, what do you I can't The bike rodeo needs volunteers. I'm sorry. The the Twins Clinic baseball needs volunteers for regation. Twins people there. Um Yes. Well, it's through the Twins Clinic. It's not actual twins players, but it's I feel like we did one time. I don't I swear we were, but it's through the twins clinic. Um and the petal pool also needs volunteers. I did get that text. What is pedal poll? How long does that last? And registration is at 11:15 and the poll is from 12 to 2. There's a lot of kids that do. There will hopefully be a lot of kids that do it. Good. I'm out of town. My boys would My boys would be in the pedal pole if we were here. Stop working. He'll curse. I will discuss it because he already was like, "Do you have to be at that thing on Saturday?" So, okay. Well, if anyone is bored and not out of town, I got lots of lots of jobs for myself. Do you need a board now? Me and Zachary. Do you need a mayor rising board now for next year? No, we're good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Too many cooks. Hands off, right? I want I got I I will take volunteers, but we don't want more cooks in the kitchen. Oh, there's there's six of us. Oh, there. Our ideas are enough. Okay. I thought it was just you and your need to put more into it. Well, Zachary and I will be running around. Tom mans the car show. Gotcha. And then Larry and Sue Gaty who are also on the board and help with the car show. And then David Gungle and Scott Wakefield are in charge of the tractor show. Zachary and I are in charge, me of the rest. I just thought when we went to this League of Minnesota thing, that was like the main takeaway was we went into a course for what these big cities do for their events, Delano, Chan Hass, and Duth. And I was I mean I could see I mean I like Christmas stood out to me like we need to amp that up a little bit. But I mean it could get big and we could do fireworks one year. You know what I mean? Like we can it's a matter of finding volunteers. Like I said, we don't necessarily like the disc golf like them having a tournament. That's wonderful. We will like help advertise, but we also want to be hands off like that for them, right? Um we'll help advertise. We'll, you know, help get the word out. We'll make it be part of the thing, but that's it. Um a 5K has been mentioned. Same with that. advertise with that, but you know, numerous times hands off for us like we do food vendors like everything else is on the six of us. So I my boys after two years the only thing they talk about is the whoever is driving that lawnmower tractor. That is all that'll be here. And my kids like the zoo when they were little, but that was when Zion ran it. I had a little with pony rides. It was called fun in the sun or something back then. That's way before my time. I was gonna say I don't remember that. Yeah. Yeah. Was with the Woodfords and stuff. We were out there. They had the fun in the sun 5K. I think we still have a t-shirt. I do remember the 5K they had. Yeah. Well, Mayor Moxy also did a 5K. There was a few different kind of kids fun run, but they had a little pony ride thing. Yeah, we and they had p a little petting zoo. And so I mean you've got the momentum is what I mean. I can I see how this thing is growing every year that it potentially could put mayor on the map. You could really It is one of the largest car shows for a small Yeah. Yeah. Tom does a great job with the car show. Awesome job. So, car show is pretty cool and I don't even like cars. So, and it's it's I mean I think that's people know train or the lawnmower train um boutique or whatever you want to call it indoor vendor but other than that that was how I got roped into being on the committee. That's how you got roped. We did that I did that political boost that one year. So Oh, yep. So all right with that I will look to uh for a motion to adjurnn. So moved. Second. All in favor say I. I. Motion carries. So moved. I'm up parliamentary procedure tonight. Thank you all.