Yes, my sense of cuz I read that same email. It's less um push back or anything on on the uh going out to homes and inspecting them, but there's no criteria for that spelled out. Okay? When I go into a home on any any call, I have a certain set of things I'm looking for. There's no guidance or anything that that we've been given on what an inspection of a home like this would look like. Number one.

So, um part of the just behind this is there is a Ohio House Bill 58 at the state level that is requiring some level of certification with inspections. And so if that passes, that provides a lot of the issues that I believe the health commissioner has.

I think part of it is proactive, too. Not just reactive. I think when when recovery houses are looking at purchasing property or renting property, when they're looking into what is our city policy on this, now they have an answer. Previously, they would look and Well, we just buy that house in Norwood. They don't have any kind of any kind of policies in place. So, I think part of it and what I expect would happen moving forward is if any new ones intended on opening, they're doing their due diligence and seeing that we have a policy in place and that they should follow it. In theory.

It just feels interesting to me. This feels like very reactionary that we have like one or maybe two incidents of someone like making people uncomfortable and now we feel like we need to write citywide legislation protecting one specific area from that behavior. I don't I

certainly with the entire piece was that many pieces of that legislation could be applied to so many different circumstances that is not I'm living at this bus station. You know what I mean? Sleeping at the bus station could be someone who's working third shift. You know, like it all felt very vague and broad. And it seems like it could be more specific than that. And I again, like we're having this conversation in many aspects right now. Do I think that our current police department is going to ticket someone for having their head up against their bag and sleeping while while waiting on their bus? Probably not. But if it's written into our law that you can do that, that is concerning to me.

Yeah, so I got a hold of uh Chief um who was also in the room with uh Lieutenant Carl Fair who's a detective and I think he's the point person underneath Chief, but I had a great conversation with both of them. Um so some background to let us kind of be on the same page about this. The way that it currently goes, when you go into the clerk of courts office, um Melissa will do a background check, but it only covers Hamilton County. So, I feel like that's a false sense of security because I assumed that that background check was a little bit bigger. But the way the current system and ordinance is written is we're only getting Hamilton County uh offenses. So, I think my recommendation and what I also think that um I I don't want to put words in the police department's mouth, but they are willing to do whatever we suggest, but I get the the gist that I walked away with is that we would all be more comfortable excuse me, with a Bureau of Criminal Investigation / FBI check, which would um have a much broader reach to make sure that offenses are are caught.

Yes. So, the um I've got an email from uh, Carl Fair. The police said basically we would provide a list that says, 'These are the places that do this. You go to one of them and then have this pin sent to us. So, you can choose to go downtown. Um, I know somebody who just got their background checked on to work at a daycare and they had to go down to Department or Justice Center. Um, so we would just say go to one of these places, have this sent back to us.'

Well, no, I'd say we kind of hit a wall. Um but I'm I'm interested in trying to find a way around the wall. Um So, the nuisance property update, if just for the background, has been an issue for Norwood. I don't know. It was before I got on council, the previous council had tried to create such a thing. It was fully unenforceable. So, when I got on council 5 years ago, we we tried to fix it. It's still not a really usable piece of legislation.

I try and get through driving most every street in Norwood at least once and in a week to 10 days. Okay, and I try and catch and I do not catch everything. But that in addition to people calling in either SeeClickFix, my office, or however I get get told. But on a uh an instance like like this, um if I see it, I will go, knock on the door, try and run them down, and tell them what the problem is. If I get nowhere cannot, I send first letter. Um and that gets either anywhere from 10 days to 30 days. And if if they comply, that's great. But that's still 10 days with trash in your front yard, okay? Um cuz I give them 10 days because they can choose to uh uh appeal that, and usually the 10 days is is the minimum for us to get scheduled and them appear before our uh meeting sessions. Um then the second after the third letter, then I can take them to court. That's the been the process that I inherited. That's their process that I follow. So, you're talking just for a bunch of of beer cups and cans and litter all over the the the house, that could be 30 to to 90 days, depending on how much time elapses. And that's also going back and and verifying they they haven't cleaned it up and that type of thing. So, that's the process as as we go.

This sounds like a bigger problem than maybe what the six of us can solve today. Um and I think there's some other departments that we probably wanted to include in the discussion. So, I would recommend maybe like a special type of meeting with all of the the administrative offices that are involved in this ordinance to discuss.