e e e whenever you are sir please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance IED alance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all good morning on this morning we don't even need a watered on a day like no water's going anywhere today so take the winter off all right do we have anybody in the audience that wants to make some comments at the microphone on an item not on the agenda you talk about a big tree today okay seeing none the agenda review and adoption would need a motion uh Mr chair I approve the agenda second we got a motion by commissioner Lynch and a second by commissioner fahe to approve the agenda any discussion on that hearing none all those in favor say I I those opposed motion passes the minutes from February 4th 2025 live meeting move approval Mr chair second have a motion by udman and a second by ledge to approve the February 4th 2025 minutes any discussion hearing none all those in favor say I I those opposed motion passes Community announcements my favorite part of the meeting Mr chair if I could you mentioned that it's very cold most of the schools are closed today it's uh um brutally cold but on the other hand it's kind of like life you're always going to have a a couple parts in life where it's going to be really uh not very good but on the other hand by Sunday it's going to be 39 and uh you're going to be see people walking around in t-shirts so we got to get through take the bad to get the good I'd like to one of the good is that a sports update that the Watertown mayor uh mayor Lutheran wrestling team is now in state they're ranked number one course and uh I'd like to congratulate again I know you're a huge gopher fan uh Max MC and Ali from wakia just finished the season undefeated uh to go along with the heavyweight Gable stevon who's uh again techall everyone or pinned everyone he's wrestled so it's uh a lot of fun but anyway just everyone be safe and uh get through these next few days and it's going to be uh U much improved so thank you sir uh you made me uh remind myself that I was going to boycott the Olympics some years ago when they were going to get rid of Roman Greco wrestling from the Olympics which I believe would have been one of the original I think it was one Olympic events and so because of that threat we still have it in the Olympics so thank you commissioner Fahy Mr chair thank you yesterday I was out at Central High School in nor Young America for the Carver County Dairy beef Expo uh just great programs and the various vendors on very interesting topics and sat in a couple of the work sessions with the informed speakers just wanted to put a thank you out there to the Carver County UFM Extension Office uh job well done and just really thank you for the invite and then also on our agenda item 3.2 today mosquito control I don't see Alex here yet um maybe he's on his way but Alex and I will also be presenting at the city of Carver tonight at 5:30 to talk more about mosquitoes when it's 17 below and then last Thursday uh spent the day at the capital with the Transportation Alliance and the Southwest Transportation Alliance we heard from governor wals and also our cover County contingent met then with rep Nash and rep Ree and also rep Harter excuse me it was a very successful day that's all I have sir excellent commissioner udman Mr chair I know we go to a lot of meetings do a lot of stuff some of them are high more high impact than others um I do the 5K every Saturday hopefully down at the uh um courthous and a guy was wearing a t-shirt with a big ripped guy and a big American flag behind him and looked a little like you Tom maybe a little bigger anyway I inquired I said what's the what's the shirt about he says actually uh we lost my son four years ago he was a mental Health employee um worked with the county um on an auxiliary service north of here um and he was self-medicating and um he lost his life four years ago and so he was there to honor him and so we got into some of the conversation I know we all have conversations like this as board members um that touch you and I said how can we keep his memory alive he says U please say something about him and talk about it and um I think that when we were talking um he he found out my role with the board and he says you have obligation to do something he said um you're employees that have been um navigated covid and all the things that go along with it um that have navigated increased cases of mental illness and and mental health um you need to do something in the front of the board and I said the one token thing I can do in the short term is mention it and so he says I'd really like that his name was Shane Potter he was nicknamed the the sheriff and Thor and he gave it his all and uh I just it was just a moment for me to stop and and understand a little bit more fully what our staff does on a on a daily basis what they may be up against and uh appreciate the work that they're doing so I wanted to make that mention publicly um on other uh news um we some of us had a chance to be at the leaders meeting last week it's where um County and City and School District comes together myself uh commissioner Anderson commissioner Workman were all there afterwards gave us a tour of the facility that had been updated I think the first major update since it was built in 1975 is um and they have a little area there was about tech tech and trade and so I had a chance to understand you know with budget cuts looming for the district the seems to be an area where they always cut or have to cut um but to see the kids engaged and the teachers engaged uh it also complements our program that we're doing here it's off the ground now trades 360 and my understanding is 45 kids are are signed up 30 of them from our own District to build camper cabins learn 16 different trades within 16 weeks and have an output so proud of the work that's being done there it's great to see it in partnership with the school districts uh next Tuesday uh greater MSP has invited us all if we want to join um a program they're calling next 25 this is focused on the future of our region for the next 25 years it's held at the Guthrie uh if you haven't gotten the invite or don't have access to it let me know if you want to go and we'll get you signed up I plan to be there um legislative priorities commissioner fee had mentioned um activity at the capital it's been tough a lot of things going on at the federal level and the state level we're trying to keep a prize of that and so weekly we're in conversations with our lobbyists um and we plan to have conversations particularly with some of the lawmakers that are the rubber the rubber vote if you will the areas where we can have impact that are nonpartisan to get things done um had a chance to sit on my first extension meeting uh I I was wowed at what they do I thought they were smaller than what they are and and the breadth of what they do is pretty impressive and expansive and one of the key topics was about eggs and alternatives to eggs and of course it's a Hot Topic any election year can you have chickens in your backyard or can't you and so it was pretty interesting a lot of talented people at that table a couple more things uh had a chance to attend the annual Guardian Angels famous beef and sausage dinner I know commissioner Workman was there a couple past Commissioners Bunch Community leaders bunch of other folks enjoyed it it was a cool day um the gal that her family was responsible for the original recipe was there which that was cool um but the conversation I had there that was that was most um interesting to me was the hes family the hes family has been farming in Carver County for over 50 years they've had cows on their property until last Monday for 50 years in fact it was the first place I ever got a chance to milk a cow we brought out some media they took pictures the whole was there got to capture the moment but the tenderness of the conversation of of Don saying you know we've been in this business for 50 years but farming has changed so much and it was almost that he was uh he was proud of it but knew that the passage of time has happened that gone are the days that you know farming is your primary source of income uh commissioner Fe has commented many many times about how how these uh farming Community has shrunk in size numbers if you will and I think the general set himed down in his family where it's kind of time to to maximize the value of our land and and um see what the future holds so uh so those are the conversations that are going on uh two more things Sports uh kids competing in State basketball on behalf of chasa basketball this weekend but it also gives us the opportunity to go to a lot of different communities this past weekend it was in Blaine to see the growth of that Community I mean brand new buildings brand new roads and uh it's not surprising the reinvestment of that tax revenue into their schools with updates to some of their middle schools and high schools and expansion and so uh keeping my eye on that and a lot of things go with it and then finally I had a chance to participate and hooked on books it's another uh Community favorite that library participates with Community ad in the district to bring authors and a whole bunch of STEM related um interactions and the kids did not want to go because it was cold and they wanted to sleep in they went and they did not want to leave and then when we left because we had to be at a different apartment they were begging to go back and so our family will be part of that I think it's four years in a row that we've been going to that and I think it's just a great program to bring the community together in the winter so thank you thank you commissioner Anderson all right thank you chair Workman so um as a new employee of Carver County I had an opportunity to uh attend new employee orientation which is kicked off by our very own administrator Hemy who does such a nice job with that so I appreciated the opportunity to participate in that as other employees and and kind of um see see what's going on and see that view of it so I appreciated that I also had a VIP tour of the Historical Society I've never felt so important but uh got a personal tour of what happens in Waconia as as well as the Peterson Farm so that was um good good work being done there and preserving our history I appreciated that um and I also got a tour of the First Street Center in Waconia um as the newest member of the mental health advisory committee and you know to commissioner ud's point about mental health we do a lot of good work um at at the first treat Center helping um the residents of Carver County with with mental health issues so I'm impressed with that and on Saturday I went out to Baylor part they're having their luminary walk they did that this Saturday and again on the 22 um it was originally planned to be a CrossCountry ski thing it's a it's a walk now but they have more than just that they had beautiful fire pits set up and you can uh roast marshmallows and color and and I colored and I I um gave a good chuckle to the people who were working there um so if you have an opportunity this next Saturday is going to be better than last Saturday so get out to Baylor park for their luminary walk and um also um Carver County is having is hosting a project um talking about the highway 41 and Highway 10 changes in that road that that affects people in chesa and so that's coming up uh on uh Wednesday from 4:30 to 6:30 at the CCC so if you want to know what that road project is going to look like really encourage you to attend that so that's all I have thank you commissioner you don't know how important 41 in ches is until they close part of it off ah like at the Costco I was at yesterday yeah um speaking of that uh there are no eggs at Costco I was there yesterday heads up um beef and sausage dinner was a wonderful time I I forget how many people I get to reconnect with from going to Guardian Angels myself for eight years I left there with about 15 lbs of the sausage 10 of it not yet cooked so maybe I'll have Commissioners over one by one for breakfast it's a lovely thing uh bring your own eggs please um Pete pemrick our friend passed away up in Chanhassen I was a rotarian with them I still am uh as a reference his daughter Haley Schubert is a city council member in Chanhassen and so um next to the definition of a great American is Pete's face believe me that's it consent agenda do I have a motion for the consent the rather long consent is is it uh the board's wish that I read all of the items on the consent agenda just a verbal nod no I see no okay move approval Mr chair second okay got a motion by Lynch and a second by udman to approve the consent agenda any discussion all those in favor say I I I those opposed motion passes Mr chair if I may um we were having a conversation beforehand U with a little a few staff members too we've been pretty smart at accelerating some of these projects and getting our bids in before the glut of people are putting their bids in so compliments to Lyon and his team I think it's going to save taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars based on the intentional timing of these bids I think you echoed the same thing Hemy so wanted to make that comment thanks all right item 3.1 mini haha Creek Watershed review and Mr Olson is going to do that is that Mrs Olen it is not sure we've ever met hello I will certainly start it off and um and then introduce uh our executive director 15 years ago I was happy serving on the lake Monona Conservation District representing Victoria of the 14 cities around that Lake uh we are the West we touch it on the western side and having been a part of that for many years I was asked by Carver County this actually this commission here to represent Carver uh on the single seat that there is on the Mina Creek Watershed district and I thought to myself how can I bring value to an organization that is a lgu that has flood control responsibility and water quality I also thought how do I bring value to a property owner and how do we bring value to the taxpayer and so with with that kind of a expectation um I learned who the board managers were and we essentially set Direction and we set policy for the organization but it's really the entire staff and the executive director that deliver that execute on that direction and uh I'm going to have James come up shortly but over the years he has restructured the entire organization at the Watershed so that has become very effective he has gone into a unique way of budgeting which was based on business where I came from which was zero based budgeting um he has uh uh created an environment where people with multiple degrees in the area that we are specialists in have come and wanted to work and then he's taken these people with a technical background and made them very effective public speakers and so they can communicate very well now to the cities and to the park boards and to the people that we have these Partnerships with one of those um Partnerships is right here uh with the city of Victoria where we have anou signed by both organizations that look out five and 10 years so that we plan in according so there's a lot of value that is being exercised and perceived um one of the other things is that our attorney once said if you think you're important how many people are willing to write a letter to that effect how many people are going to write a letter detailing why it's important to have you in that position whether that's an individual or the whole organization so what we did is we uh looked at at what people are saying and we thought let's communicate up and down the creek to those people who could have a flood if it starts to rain and why we manage the dam at Grace Bay the way we do and why we do these things and we have communicated to everybody and we get lots of positive feedback we've had two very detailed articles in the star treb over the years now that have shown all the reach that we have and the positive effects for the Twin Cities in addition uh um to that we have had Partnerships now that I mentioned with the park board all the cities in our responsibility as well as the um organizations that we team with and share um the cause for flood control and water quality to that end if you can bring value and if you can identify what it is that's important create it and then you can recognize it at the end you have the award the pat on the back the recognition and we in 2002 were Watershed of the Year awarded by the DNR in 2003 we had the employee of the year who's sitting here in the back of the room tonight s this morning and in 2003 our executive director was named by the Minnesota Association of watersa districts as the finest executive director in the state and so that's where I'm going to introduce right now to talk about our watered that's James whisker nice introduction very nice we supposed to stand for a standing ovation that it feels like that was a surprise for I thought he was talking about Hy over here we could have given that speech yeah thank you very much bill um good morning Commissioners I'm J I'm award-winning James whisker executive director for the mini hot Creek Watershed District I'm very pleased to be here this morning with our partners at Carver County providing an update on our work out in this portion of the geography I was not expecting that kind of introduction and um we'll see if I can deliver I suppose so I'm going to start by providing a light overview of the minw Creek Watershed District who we are and how we approach our work as I know there's at least one new commissioner and commissioner Anderson on the board so can consider this part of your orientation to minihaha Creek as a key partner for the county I'll recap some key work um some of our completed work as well as initiatives that are underway and then we'll finish with a light preview of our 2027 watershed management plan so beginning with our geography which is quite large mini HW Creek is one of the largest urban watersheds in the metro area we cover 178 square miles 29 communities and parts of both hanapin and Carver County and because of that we have a very rich diversity of land use and a density of key and iconic resources like the Six Mile Creek Chain of Lakes which has been the focus for the last 5 to eight years the lake minaka our namesake minihaha Creek The Chain of Lakes in Minneapolis and of course minihaha Falls in terms of vision I've said this before and I'll say it again I think we're quite aligned with Carver County as the district believes that natural systems and the character of the land underpin local identity and the creates a sense of place and so when properly integrated we really view as Bill mentioned that the Watershed work is an essential component of building thriving communities and in this case the sustainable growth for Carver County because land and how we choose to use the land as a community affects the water how much water there is and the levels of pollution in the water and given the fact that the Watershed District doesn't actually own all the land and we don't control all the decisions that are made about the land whether we're working on building projects or shaping policy we're always thinking about how the Watershed Investments our time our money can be catalysts for our partners goals and the built environment and we do that by starting with science and a datadriven understanding of what's happening in the Watershed and then we layer in our partners objectives which might relate to transportation and infrastructure Community Development parks in open space and of course the community to create amazing places in the Watershed that are good for the environment but they're also good for communities and the people that live in them which I think stresses the importance we place on working in Partnership and of course putting focus in areas of high need and high opportunity like Carver County that philosophy has us taking a really tailored approach across the Watershed to the unique needs of Our Community Partners this is one simple example of why we think that's important this map simply shows hard cover the amount of Pavement in the Watershed and right away you can see striking differences in the amount of development and hard cover in our Eastern communities like St Louis Park and Minneapolis versus the upper Watershed in Carver County with Victoria and Laketown Township which means that the strategies that we deploy here must reflect those landscape and Community differences so that tailored work in this geography began in Earnest about eight years ago based on recognition that the 27 square miles highlighted here of land contain important Regional needs with many impaired Waters that drain Downstream to holstead Bay um which requires the single largest water quality improvement of any water body out of our 120 lakes in the district and also that there' be opportunities given the relatively rapid growth that was underway at the time to develop a road map to guide successful project implementation we looked across the 14 Lake interconnected system to understand number one the pollutant load that might be running off of the landscape number two the Legacy phosphorus that might be trapped inside Lake sediments and resuspended and then also common CP populations and their impact as they move through this interconnected system um on water quality and habitat and we Ed that science and then we convened a coalition of Partners to understand their plans and priorities and to make sure our approach reflected local context and the results of that effort was a three-pronged simple strategy that breaks the geography down into Key Management units focused on targeting Wetland Restorations restoration and preservation of the broader landscape and in Lake management to improve water qualities all the way from the headwaters down to to Hallstead Bay since forming this partnership and setting that shared Vision we've been able to leverage and pipeline almost $2 million of outside funding into Carver County um here's a cross-section of projects we've secured almost a quar million dollars to treat 22 acres of land prior to it entering Auburn Lake which directly supported a downtown and infill development in the heart of Victoria we worked with national home builders like Lenard to integrate Wetland Restorations into their housing developments ultimately restoring 20 acres of wetlands on site cheaper than it would have been for them to go to a wetland bank and using the latest science we leveraged almost a million dollars in state funding for one of the largest common carp management efforts in the state and Alum dosing which is seen waserman Lake Trend towards hitting state standards for water quality for the first time in its monitored history and through that partnership with the county in the city we're able to acquire 33 Acres of the last remaining undeveloped land around the lake to deliver The waserman Preserve my clicker come on clicker you can do it there we go which provides public access to our restored wasman Lake we shown here with the picnic shelter Gathering space I think it's the size of these great hero Shop pictures so he bear with me while the computer tries to keep up we've also integrated um nature play which should be coming up here on the screen in just a moment I think there we go and these nature Play Elements really allow um kids in the digital age he was talking to commissioner udman about this on the front end of the meeting in this digital age it's allowing kids to really connect with and immerse in our natural environment you know the grand parent in me says you know somebody could get hurt there yeah those are my kids and one of them did get hurt is it the clicker or is it computer speed oh there we go okay thank you it um and then there's also uh space for people to gather and Foster Community I think um I've heard in the past Commissioners have used this space um with their families and friends in the community and of course I think really really important for this Park which is on the highest point of land overlooking the lake it provides access to the water through the boardwalk to a peninsula of land and just a little bit further Downstream um I will admit it's slightly over the Carver County border but it's part of the work that we're doing in this geography um at the end of 2023 um into 2024 we were really proud to finish our work at the sixmile marsh Prairie uh this restored almost 200 Acres of Prairie and Oak Savannah with a one M nature Loop connected to the Dakota Regional Trail so if you haven't been out here I highly encourage it it's just down the street or just down the trail from gailwood farm and this project celebrates both the agricultural Heritage of the land I heard the Commissioners on the front end the meeting reporting in on the changing Dynamics around farming um with the preservation of the iconic Red Barn that the community knows and loves and also celebrates the return of the Prairie which reduced nutrient loading by hundreds of pounds to holstead Bay and provides amazing viewsheds and opportunities to engage throughout the site so that's a little bit of recent accomplishments I'll turn now to some of the work underway this map's probably familiar to everybody on the commission um and is front of mind for us as well um this is the arum area transportation plan and it contains a series of projects planned to address the transportation needs of chasa Chanhassen and Victoria both today and as they continue to grow in the future and our goal as the Watershed district with all of these projects not being a transportation agency has been to be of service and value as Bill mentioned to ensure regulatory process serves its environmental purpose but also that our involvement helps bring Clarity Focus streamlines process and identifies creative Partnerships in terms of an update on our end I saw a lengthy consent agenda number of agreements related to 41 and 11 and other road projects as part of this plan um the 511 and 11 projects were both recently distributed for public comment by our staff as their application reached a level of completeness these projects presented I think some opportunities for some creative cross-pollination 511 when it originally came to the watersa district was positioned for a variance for flood plane issues however by brokering connections across the different engineering and project teams and with 3ers Park district and the support of County staff flood plane mitigation for the 511 roundabout was provided inside the 11 project and so both both projects fully meet the rules and we've preserved 100-year flood storage in an area that already has flood sensitivities um on a somewhat related note now the project is out for public notice uh we are seeing some engagement from the public um in particular we've received a couple of calls last week from residents up on zumber Lake which have questions about the County Road 11 Culver um for the County Board that is or or maybe isn't tracking the Culvert under 11 which drains upper part of the Watershed zombra Stone and sunny has been redesigned to reduce clogging during High flows while not changing the flood profile in any negative way upstream or Downstream and of course we have the trunk Highway 5 project which given the spatial constraints does involve some Wetland impacts here I'll say despite creative efforts across all of the project teams in partnership with the Watershed to identify local mitigation for Wetlands the federal government the Army Corp has expressed a strong pulse poliy preference for banking unfortunately on a project like this that effectively mines Wetlands outside of the county and those are some of the natural resources that make this a great place to live work and play and that's really because there's no Wetland Banks within the Carver portion of the minihaha Watershed which is something we're explicitly focused on in perhaps an area of future and ongoing collaboration with the county given your long-term Transportation needs and plans in this area between turbid and Lon Lake we're working in partnership with the city of Victoria to hopefully develop a Greenway of restored Wetlands that in can improve water quality they can provide for Planned growth and set the foundation for future pedestrian connections into Carver Park Reserve part of the planning for this work we worked with Victoria inside its comprehensive plan to evaluate range of growth patterns and we found that by regionalizing storm water and not having it be done one subdivision at a time and by restoring Wetlands we not only improved environmental outcomes potentially reduce the lane miles of city street as well as the number of storm water facilities that the city would ultimately take ownership for reducing the long-term onm burden cost to the taxpayers as this area grows and expands and those findings were integrated into the city's plan as the Victoria Chain of Lakes and Greenway policy something that we are now implementing as Bill mentioned under a newly ined memorandum of understanding which outlines our shared priorities for the greenway as well as opportunities to Ally future plans and funds while also coordinating planning zoning and permitting to drive better outcomes but doing that work more efficiently some emerging examples in that area uh include the potential for a 30 plus acre Wetland Bank around turbid Lake we're currently in dialogue with land owners and providing technical support for this potential restoration which receives almost 60% of the drainage or runoff that goes to turbid Lake and thus represents a really significant chance for water quality improvement while also ensuring that there might be local Wetland Banks to support the impacts associated with future growth as we just touched on something I know the county is already thinking about given you work with the Watertown Wetland Bank we're also working to restore 11 acres of wetlands between waserman and Auburn Lakes as part of our March Downstream from waserman Lake to keep improving water quality on our way to halad Bay uh this project which would hydrologically restore this Wetland complex could improve water quality by 70 to 90 pounds it's also planned to rehab portions of Aging trail system for the city shown here on the right and to close our update this morning you've seen a little bit about where we've been some of the projects and the works I I want to finish with a look ahead and briefly profile our 2027 Watershed plan which we hope to start engaging all of our partners on later this year with one key emphasis being the development of an integrated flood mitigation plan that balances both the upstream and downstream Community needs across the Watershed one reason we see that as being important as we look ahead is that we've experienced a lot of volatility in weather over the last decade swinging from Deep drought to extreme wet and we've had those Cycles even within the last three calendar years as an example this chart shows the historic average rainfall Cycles in blue and here we've added monthly time series showing where we exceeded normal rainfall patterns and you look at this and on face value you say well that that seems reasonable that's not too significant that's how averages bear out but when we look at the accumulated departure over that period of time we after the flood of record that large gray bar on the left in 2014 we went on to have the seven wetest years ever recorded the we accumulated an extra 3 feet of surplus water in the Watershed um that extra 36 Ines of rainfall depth decreased all available surface storage as well as raising Regional groundwater levels creating flooding from the ground making the impact of every subsequent small runoff producing event more significant and so this is an example of how beyond the floods that we're used to um the hundred-year floods continuous rain for six to seven years in those sorts of patterns just decreases all the storage and makes us that much more vulnerable to smaller rainfall events creating flooding and uh impacts for events that we're not necessarily used to seeing those rainfall patterns impact institutions this is Methodist Hospital shown here before our project which had impact to loading docks impacting Supply delivery in medical waste out for about 10 days it's impacted public lands which have made the news for a whole host of reasons like the hawaa golf course shown here from 2014 it's taxed our infrastructure and damaged our natural systems as well and for us it's underscored that we're still feeling the effects of land use decisions in parts of our Watershed that were made way before our time this is a snapshot of Minneapolis which shows the filling of over 80% of our area Wetlands which are nature's filters and sponges and one of the reasons that Minneapolis has some of the flood Dynamic and water quality dynamics that it does and at the center of all those impacts are people people who we found like to network on social media looking for answers building Community narratives finding connection and people who then turn to local government and sometimes their legislators looking for answers um answers to questions like why is this happening I've never seen this happen before why is this happening now who responsible is it the Watershed District the DNR Carver County the city and underneath all of that the real question is who's going to pay where's the money going to come from and that's why the first prong of our strategy around this integrated flood mitigation planning revolves around a deeper understanding and leveraging techn ol understanding the water patterns of today and predicting how those might change in the future with changes in both rainfall and changes in land use as infrastructure and land use patterns change so that we can build community resilience the first way we're doing that is with a real-time sensor Network we've deployed across the watershed this provides short-term forecasting for emergency managers it uses National Weather Service forecasts which you're never right um just like any forecast but then we measure the direct rainfall across the district because sometimes it rains 2 in up in Independence and it only rains a quarter inch down here in Carver County and that makes a tremendous difference in the amount of volumes that are moving through the system and then finally we gauge our Lakes wetlands and streams to see what is the actual response on the landscape to those rainfall inputs what that's allowing us to do is not only give realtime short-term forecast so emergency managers can be more Nimble and protect more properties more more efficiently it's allowing us to take that very very large data set of forecasts measured rainfall and gauged response on the landscape and use machine learning to improve the quality of forecasts in the future to be more predictive and provide more time for emergency managers the second area we're building is an understanding of hydrology and predictions not mid or shortterm but for the future um is in long-term scenario planning this has been supported by legislatively funded two-dimensional hydraulic and hydrologic model um it's just a fancy word for taking 29 cities worth of storm sewer data which exists in different data silos and integrating that with land surface elevation groundwater and surface water data and allowing us to think about future rainfall patterns future land use patterns and then determine the location and magnitude of impacts but most importantly what Solutions are going to yield the greatest return turn on investment to protect as many properties as possible for the least amount of investment things like where might we expand flood plane storage around minihaha Creek or other water bodies what city policies could help guide future development patterns based on where groundwater may be High um where it might not be high right now where we can increase conveyance in the grid and storm sewer capacity without having negative Downstream consequences and bringing that back and to close with the differences across the Watershed it can help us think about the paved Eastern portion of the Watershed and the Wetland Rich Western portion of the Watershed in caret County we can understand how flood patterns might change as Carver County develops and urbanizes and how do we retrofit Urban Storage into the urban landscapes in the East but importantly how do we preserve and create and expand Wetland storage Upstream where already exists so with that um concludes our think our annual update of work that we've done in partnership with cver County for the Minot Creek Watershed District you've seen a little bit about how we approach our work some work that we've got under our belt thanks to you all and work that's in pipeline both projects and on the policy planning front so thank you again for your time and I'm happy to take any questions commissioner udman couple questions Juan Bill did you get award this year because it seems like you're you should get one too uh first time we met was uh was when we unveiled werman um and what a wonderful project that was costly uh so hope you get an award there but curious uh how how that's performing the werman and then also um you talked about the planning or in in your example of Minneapolis the lack of planning and the impact that it's had 20 to 30 years in the future we're in the midst of considering what our 2050 comp plant looks like is there anything we should be considering is there anything you guys are consider considering that might be relevant for our discussions in the next year as it relates to 2050 comp plan that's a great question commissioner udman I I think um by all reports uh wasman preserves performing fantastically great it's a a great number of visitors we've just repped our uh 2025 vegetation management contract so the park is going to be getting a new way of investment from The Watershed and some TLC on the planting front which is really um what sets the place apart um in terms of things that we should all be thinking about in the future I think one of the seeds that I wanted to plant today is um one of Carver County's most tremendous natural assets are its Wetlands they're Nature's filters they're your sponges and developing smartly around those Wetlands is what's going to keep Carver County resilient we did a Noah study about 10 years ago comparing and contrasting today's rainfall patterns and future rainfall patterns in eastern portions of the Watershed and Western portions of the Watershed and Victoria and Carver County were shown to be much more res Ilan just based on the land use development patterns that have preserved those Wetlands one of the things that we need to keep an eye on from a policy and planning perspective is as development comes in sometimes peace Mill developers purchase one piece of property they're stubbing out infrastructure that sets the development pattern for the very next parcel but the developers aren't always thinking about the next parcel because they may not have it under option or ownership what we found with the city of Victoria is sometimes that that infrastructure stubbed out right where there's a wetland on the adjacent parcel which forces Wetland impact because the extension of the road needs to run through Wetland now you're sarging um you've got higher costs higher maintenance costs and those are all passed on to the taxpayer and are public costs um just in terms of delivering infrastructure for the next development bigger picture then we're losing Wetlands um there are there have been changes in in federal policy that are trickling down to a state level that impact the county and the Watershed that favor for uh Wetland Banking and which sounds great because you get a larger higher quality Wetland somewhere else that's easier to maintain um but oftentimes those Wetland Banks aren't in the location where the impact is so we're losing the Wetland resources we have in Cary County and maybe we're replacing those in Scott County or in the instance of the Watertown Bank you know you are thinking ahead um you have some of those Bank credits still in car County I think those are two of the the key things is the development patterns do have an impact on the landscape and we should be thinking about if impacts are necessary how can we plan proactively to create Banks and restore wetlands in this uh growing portion of the Cy particularly in the western growth area of Victoria so that we can absorb that growth and not exacerbate flooding and water quality issues because it's why people want to be here is the quality of the the water and the the rich Park system and the open space thanks JP commissioner fee rather James just to that point with Lake Town Township and Six Mile Creek how is that holding up um good question commissioner Fe do you have something specific you'd like me to to drill down on in general no ultimately it ends up flowing further into Six Mile Marsh and so on and if that's the start basically for us in Lake toown Township is right is the creek performing the way it should be doesn't need additional maintenance Etc it's a great question commissioner fee um one of the maps that we showed up here and you might have access to this after the presentation breaks the 27 square miles and the 14 plus Lakes into manageable management units the headwaters of the Six Mile system passes through Three Lakes so it starts in Pearson Lake and then it flows south and east into Marsh Lake and then it comes North into wasman Lake and those Three Lakes really act as one management unit and system Pearson Lake water quality with it being a Headwaters lake has remained quite High there are resident concerns around uh ditched wetlands and you know agricultural uses that we have seen um increased sediment discharge and and nutrient discharge into the north side of Lake but our monitoring of Pearson Lake shows that it remains meeting State Standards it's sort of a an a grade for water quality as is Marsh lake waserman lake we really started there in the Headwater system because it was impaired and it was um a pretty significant distance away from meeting State Standards through the Investments that we've made um two out of the last three years we have seen the lake meet state water quality standards so the work's perhaps not done um two out of three isn't a perfect Trend um but we've made massive improvements in the the quality of werman lake and that's why we're now moving down to Auburn the Auburn Wetland systems but also turbid Lon which is sort of a side Chain turbid Lake is in dependent of Pearson it drains up to Lon Lake and then hits the main stem there so uh we feel like we've done a lot of great work in the headwaters and are progressively moving our way down there are opportunities for um Wetland restoration Wetland Banking and and contining to preserve and improved water quality in that Headwater system but it really requires um partnership with willing land owners um and and as the area develops further west and the infrastructure um moves West into the Western growth area so we have ideas but no immediate plans for those three projects but I would say on the whole we've been making really solid measured progress in removing water bodies from the impaired Waters list and protecting what we have thank you Mr Lynch I'd like to say James you lived up to your billing did a great job it was a great presentation um it was interesting seeing the Minneapolis Maps where you can see that they actually filled in the wetlands and has ramifications down the the down the road it was interesting your hard surface map and I looked at that it looked like Mound basically an island in the middle of Lake minaka it's all hard surface and you get you're blust with two inches of rain and it runs right into the lake with no treatment whatsoever it's interesting that um you're praising all the wetlands and the Retention Ponds and they do a great job of U you know slowing the water into the the cck it's wonderful but the timing of this is really wonderful too because right after you're done we're going to get a presentation by the mosquito control board so interesting great presentation though thank you commissioner um I always found that to be a little bit of a contrast uh building ponds and and then paying for mosquito control um I'm I'm certain that it's the best way to do it um I could sure use a good color copy of that impervious map you had of course um I'm aware of maybe only a small amount of conversations you've had with Minneapolis legislators and the flooding and it would be a good map to show them uh that we're doing doing our part I think they just sort of wanted us to turn the water off in Carver County so that they wouldn't flood that d that drainage ditch they call minihaha Creek um but it sounds like you've got that pretty well under control um I I think so chair Workman Commissioners um we love Carver County we love the partnership we love the work that we've been able to accomplish out here but we are also working in other focal geographies um I think those contrasts are interesting because um it's is different communities and different stages of buildout at different periods of of environmental planning regulation and so there's different problems and that means there's different solutions we did in 2024 Inc uh 20year partnership with the City of Minneapolis Minneapolis Park and Recreation board after many many years of discussion and you know controversy with high surface and groundwaters down in Minneapolis you're right that did generate a lot of attention focus hearings questions and what we've really focused on is telling the story of the work that we've done in the upper Watershed above the lake with Carver County the work that we've done in the urban Greenway in Hopkins St Louis Park and framing the fact that we think that there are are problems and solutions to be delivered in Minneapolis too so we now have a joint steering committee with elected officials from all three agencies The Watershed the city and the park board that serve as a a steering committee to think into the future and and plan and align investment in Water Resources inside the city so we're really working at both ends of of of the Watershed on um similar problems but in completely different Landscapes which keeps the work interesting and fun um the County Road 11 Culver so um I'm not sure if you've had discussions with Mr Holly out there is he one of the people that has contacted you you've made changes I'd love to to see that I I guess that's our Culver right that's correct uh Lynden Rob jent Culvert so maybe maybe we hike out there that's not far uh but it would be interesting to see that is that something that's got Mr Holly on Lake zumbra satisfied because I know he wants a bigger pipe um satisfied might be uh my word yeah a stronger way of putting it I think we in this final stretch for the project I know timelines are really important um ESP particularly with the different funding streams and having projects ready for bid um I think our staff actually this morning had uh while I was here we're having calls with um your engineering teams to discuss how we want to handle uh final points of Engagement with the zumbra association I think Mr Holly's been um great asset for the zumbra HOA we spent many evenings and and days together you and I and him and three R Park district and the DNR and Victoria doing a systemwide flood study that took two years to show that if you over manipulate the 11 Culvert you actually impact people Downstream both inside the park system and some residences that are down on Auburn it would materially change their flood stage so I think the project team's taken a very sensible approach um both to their civil work and within um the state regulatory framework to improve emergency overflow that red reduces clogging and the maintenance burden when there's High flows so that the system can drain without negatively impacting Downstream or Upstream flood stage so an no rise is really the the gold standard when you have existing flooding conditions is what kind of adjustments can we make to the system without increasing the 100-year flood stage and that's really this the standard that the design teams landed on that's permissible while improving things as much as they can um I think Mr Holly's um otherwise occupied with things in his personal life there are a couple of other residents that have reached out and happy to get you their names we're planning on having calls with them this afternoon and tomorrow to determine if um if they are satisfied with the engineering rationale or um alternatively they have the opportunity to request that that permit be heard by our board if they have concerns but at the end of the day the the Culver's been designed um like I said to improve high flow operations with without increasing flood stage and meet State and Watershed District regulations and I think is a sensible design and Mr Holly has to talk about and this would also be a Parks uh Three Rivers parks uh actual removal of that Culvert coming out of zumbra uh where a past farmer may have created a land right a bridge um but actually taking that out and maybe bridging it MH with the trail is that something that's uh in the works it's another great question share workmen Commissioners so um we're talking about culverts there's one in 11 and then as you go Upstream there's one that controls flow leaving zumbra immediately Downstream you have Stone Lake from the North and then Sunny Lake and that's it's those three lakes that go under Highway 11 and the issue um that we've pointed out that I think has been the subject of a lot of study is if you actually increase the size of the opening from zumbra Lake there's backflow conditions the Hydraulics are very interesting and dynamic so water from Stone and sunny will actually move Upstream into Sunny lake or into zumbra Lake if that Culver's expanded and so it actually increases the flood risk profile for residents if we were to if that cul were to be expanded which is what they've you know historically asked for um that Culvert is being looked at I think by three years Park District for replacement on some sort of concurrent basis with Highway 11 we've made sure that the engineering teams had a joint meeting that they're all using the same models and that that works being planned concurrently but the real issue for I think the zumber residents is when those homes originally went in they have basements that are located below the ordinary high water level um which isn't a great spot for a basement and so there's only so many solutions that you can actually Implement without making things worse with the infrastructure that you have and I think the like bringing it back to Highway 11 um the County's done a good job designing that to improve efficiency flow and operations without impacting flood stage and then Three Rivers is working in a coordinated Fashion on the outlet and you were talking about what we call Culvert number one three being under 11 so if that's the we go one convention okay sure so yeah very scientific um but so there won't be a bridge there that pipe is going to stay there to that's doing its job to control the that uh covert number one chair Workman Commissioners is going to be replaced Three Rivers is working on a design for that it will be improved it's deteriorated so that will probably improve conditions for zombra it's being done in a way that similar to 11 will improve high flow conditions and maintenance issues those were concerns from the HOA if you remember um both flow through ditch channels and then both culverts and so think um The Three Rivers Culvert Culvert number one is going to be improved it will be replaced it's not going to be massively expanded in capacity because that will increase the flood risk or negatively affect the flood risk for the the homeowners Upstream so it will improve the flow during high water conditions and it will alleviate some of the clogging issues so that flow is moving but it will not expand so that Hydraulics can push water Upstream into their basements so it's a real Balancing Act it is I've had to learn that it's very very very complicated let's get on our fatty bikes and take a look at it uh do you think the name turbid for a lake is a really popular one and what's going on there how did yeah who named that every time it comes up I'm like who's whose idea was this chair Workman Commissioners I you know there are a number of lakes in the state called turbid um so it's not a good adjective it's not on its own I I think we see the irony too there we have actually our Six Mile planner um Kaylee surmac has gone through the the lake name changing process before in henpen county and you'll uh maybe find it ironic that the County Board has a role in approving Lake name changes so as our work unfolds out there and if we improve water quality maybe we can contemplate a name change just as long as it's not Workman yeah I don't want some dirty leg maybe a bay and a Tonka something but uh Mr whisker you uh you're we get a we get to talk to a lot of smart people as County Commissioners and uh you're one of them who we feel once we talk to you we feel smarter ourselves so thank you so much thank you for the partnership to the car County Commission and your staff we appreciate it thank you olon team Olen all right we're going to move on to item 3.2 we do have the mosquito control folks in here I don't recognize them son 22 years on that and and uh so I don't recognize everybody I hope it's r as excellently as it has in the past oh Mr chair Commissioners thank you my name is Daniel Huff I'm the new executive director for mmcd so I hope that you are correct and that we are run as well or better than we have in the past um Scott County excuse me Carver County we just were at Scott County so forgive my my fumble there um Carver County is represented on the mmcd board by commissioner fahe who was our vice chair this year year and we welcome commissioner Anderson to our board this year um we uh uh I really appreciated the presentation on wetlands and the important role that they um play in ecological function of storing water of reducing floods uh create creating habitat and biodiversity one thing they also do is they do breed mosquitoes and that's where we come in uh to make sure that those wetlands are doing all those wonderful things are also not breeding too many mosquitoes so Alex Carlson is our uh public affairs manager he's going to be talking about what we do how we do it and then uh I'm also joined today by Trevor naaki Trevor is um one of the supervisors at our Jordan facility and Jordan our Jordan facility serves both Carver and Scott counties uh so thank you for the invitation today and I'll turn it over to Alex thank you very much thank you Mr chair and Commissioners again my name is Alex Carlson I'm the public affairs manager I have been here the past couple of years so hopefully you've seen this presentation before I'm sure you're all mosquito experts by now but I'm still going to review some of the most important things to know about mosquitoes um here in Minnesota and then provide some updates on what we saw last year and what we're looking for this coming year and I know when it's a minus 10 degree day mosquitoes and ticks are on top of mine for everybody so uh hopefully this will answer some questions that you might have um so just a review we serve the Seven Counties in the Metro area as a special taxing district so uh we've been around since 1958 and as Dan mentioned um we have 18 County Commissioners that serve on our board representing Carver commissioner Fahy and Commissioners Anderson uh over 2900 square miles and 3 million people live in our service area um and the median home in the Twin Cities pays about $111 per year for all of the mosquito control services um so we think that's a pretty good deal for the services provided which include comprehensive mosquito control uh mosquito born disease and tick born disease suppression and surveillance we really consider ourselves Public Health First so our main goal is the public health mission of controlling mosquitoes and reducing mosquito born disease and tick born disease um we do a lot of public education because we can't be in everywhere all the time so people can help us reduce mosquitoes as well um and then we have started since the late 1980s and we've done a blackfly program as well which are the biting Nats that come out of rivers and streams in Minnesota we have about 52 species of mosquitoes only about half of which bother with people at all so about half the species that we have exclusively feed on birds or frogs or other non-mammals U but we do have about 20 that do feed on people exclusively or preferably um the big thing with mosquitoes keeping with the theme of water is the the standing water becomes mosquito habitat and so we really follow precipitation patterns during the summer um about an inch of rain is enough to trigger what we call a mosquito brood which means a new batch of eggs is hatched and they're going to be coming out of the water um the cycle lasts about a week so when those eggs hatch it's about a week later that we see that big surge in mosquito population from them all coming out of the water so we have a very window to get our materials into the to control those mosquitoes when we think of mos mosquito habitat you probably have seen these images already today but uh looking at those areas that hold permanent water flood water or the man-made habitats that can hold water so this is just part of our public education reminder to people that anything that can hold stagnant water can become mosquito habitat there are certain species that actually have kind of evolved to prefer man-made habitats they like buckets and containers and waste tires and catch basins um and so reducing standing water is a big part of mosquito control when you see our trucks out chances are we're doing Wetland surveillance we spend a lot of our days going out to those various bodies of water and figuring out where the larvae is um so we use our favorite tool it's called the long handled Dipper um so we go out walk into the water a little ways skim the surface where the larvae tends to congregate and try to get a count and bring those samples back U we also do adult surveillance where we're setting up traps or different ways to collect the flying adults and bringing those back to the lab as well uh there we go and our entomology lab in St Paul has several full-time entomologist as well as a seasonal staff that does taxonomy during the summer basically trying to figure out if those larval samples are species that can affect people um and needing to uh control followup and then for the adult samples we're separating them out to see if they're disease vectors um we have a vector ecologist on staff that can actually test on site in St Paul for the presence of West Nile Virus so we can be very proactive when it comes to disease outbreaks if we're finding the mosquitoes and finding them before they're biting people we can really make a big impact and we consider ourselves a laral control agency so when people see our helicopters out what we're doing is we're dropping these dry granules these larval control materials into the water and they have an active ingredient that that's uh toxic to mosquito larvae specifically so it'll disrupt the gut of a mosquito larvae and prevent them from coming out of the water as an adult mosquito um and so whenever you see our helicopters out or our field staff out most of what we're doing is laral control and you can see the grid down there on the bottom um just shows year-over-year we''ve really decreased the number of adult control Acres we're doing and increased the number of larval control Acres were doing and you can see the story kind of uh there is 2021 through 23 were drought years with not a lot of summer rain so the larvel Acres were down and then last year was a very wet year with lots of rain almost every week we had to have helicopters out um so big jump in the mosquito uh control Acres Alex is there any chance to get the old bubble helicopter back commissioner Lynch I think that those are out of commission we we contract our helicopter with Scott's helicopter service and I don't think they're using the bubbles anymore that's what I kind of thought darn it we when we talk about mosquito born diseases our main ones of concern are West Nile Virus which is the most common that we have here in Minnesota um see anywhere from a few to several dozen cases each year mainly affects older adults we have Jamestown Canyon virus found in Spring mosquito species lacrosse is a big one of concern for us because this one tends to affect younger people it can be very harmful to young kids um found in species that like tree holes and waste tires um Triple E your Eastern equine and sephtis it's actually the most deadly mosquito born disease it's very rare there's never been a human case in Minnesota but we still monitor to ensure that we don't see any and then dog heartworm good reminder that your pets are susceptible to mosquitoes as well so anything you can do to give them preventatives is helpful environmental stewardship is very important to us we want to make sure that we're controlling the mosquitoes that are harmful to people and not causing any residual impacts on the environment so we Tak special precautions to make sure that our materials are specific to mosquito larvae um and not going to harm beneficial pollinators or other animals or human health or anything like that and so um we do a lot of our own internal studies and reviews but we also have a technical Advisory Board basically a panel of scientists that reviews our practices annually they actually just met last week and provided recommendations to make sure that we can be as effective and safe going forward so last year the big story was the rain we saw a lot of rain last year a lot of my sons baseball games were cancelled um it was a very rainy summer um and so that led to not as many mosquitoes as we would have expected so we did see an early spring um when it came to just the weather it was uh almost a non-existent winter last year so this time last year we had already found our first deer tick of the year on February 5th of last year um and then we found our first mosquito larvae about a week uh later from now February 26 so last year the big story was an early spring wet summer but that we didn't see the big surgeon mosquitoes the main reason is our two main human nuisance species um they were really impacted by the previous drought years so their numbers were really down low the first uh sampling that we did we didn't find a lot of um there the 80s vexans or the Cattail mosquitoes um we didn't find a lot of those until the end of the summer um there are a fewer instances of West Nile last year that has to do with a lot of the rain West Nile mosquitoes tend to thrive in hot dry conditions um because they like you know when catch basins hold that hot stagnant water they thrive in that versus lot of rain washes those W that water out and prevents them from really taking hold uh and then we saw big surgeon black flies in the spring last year mainly because of the flooding that we saw along the Minnesota River so big Big Spring peak in those biting knats uh and it was tolerable the rest of the summer they declined quickly after that so looking at Carver County specifically you can see some the the areas where things increased uh we saw a lot more laral inspections a pretty big increase in acres of larval treatment in response to the rain that we were getting um declined the amount of adult treatment and you can see just comparing the number of Acres we do significantly more laral treatment um and then other things were down a little bit catch basins and adults treatment the biggest thing there is we had to be so active with our helicopters we just didn't have staff time to do some of those additional things like catch basins and like um some maybe adult control and things like that um we did increase our our tire pickups last year um so we that's a service that we provide which I'll talk more about in a second um and then a big thing um that was a story especially in kind of the chasa Carver area was we saw a huge surge in uh customer inquiries calls and emails coming into to our office uh the most common call we get by far is what we call a mosquito annoyance report somebody calling us to say mosquitoes are bad what can you do to help or black flies are bad um that's by far uh the most common call that we get but we also take calls requesting tire recycling um or just informational calls as well and we track all of those um just looking at the the budget side of things so our budget is distributed among the Seven Counties and each County it's based on the population of that County so we are increasing our budget um next year to uh account for some staffing increasing to kind of help with uh some of the program changes that we're seeing um but for Carver County just the way that things shook out actually the the levy or the the amount specific to Carver count is declining by $9,000 next year um or for the current year for 2025 and again just a reminder the median home pays about $11 per year um so even if it declines you know a little bit it's only a couple cents um likely that they're going to see you when it goes up and down looking ahead to this year so we have some exciting changes coming this year first one is with drones um we've been slowly rolling out drones over the past couple years and trying to learn them uh how we can use them most effectively this year we now have purchased a drone for all six of our field facilities so every uh area will see some drone activity the really benefit of drones is they're good for those small to mediumsized areas that are too small for the helicopter um so in the past staff have had to put on the chest waiters walk walk into the pond use a backpack to try to distribute the materials it takes a lot of time there's risk of injury with trips and falls um and it wasn't even distribution of material so the Drone can be programmed to fly in perfect patterns um so that it it's getting evenly distributed material it's a lot faster for our staff to load and unload um and there there's a trained pilot at each drone assigned to each drone to make sure that you know we're following all the regulations and things like that but it's an exciting New Growth part of our program and hopefully going to help with reducing m overall um we have a new strategic plan coming out we've been working with a company called proudy project um and they've been helping us kind of retool our strategies going forward um focusing on Outreach and Partnerships resources and capacity environmental sustainability and then expanding um our IPM program our goal is to you know provide services to as many residents as possible with the resources that we have um so we're going to really be focusing on that this year increasing our educational Outreach our goal with educational Outreach with public education is General awareness of mmcd um ensuring people are taking their own precautions so wearing bug spray checking for ticks dumping outstanding water um and then also for recruitment most of our staff are seasonal staff um and so it's always a challenge to get the 200 or so people that we need to help us fight the good fight every summer um and then a change this year I mentioned our tire recycling program U we had a struggle last year keeping up with all the tire requests that we were getting especially the small uh requests with only a few tires so this year we're going to be having people bring the tires to us instead of of sending our staff out and so that'll save staff time a lot so we're going to have dedicated drop off days at our facilities so when people call in with tires we're going to tell them where they can bring them so they can bring them um and get them on a specific date instead of those tires sitting out because our staff are busy doing helicopter work or other other things that took precedent this is a question we always get is what are the mosquitoes going to be like this year as people are thinking about you know summer baseball games and camping trips and stuff like that um it's very hard to predict this early uh because it really depends on precipitation if we see a drier year there will be fewer mosquitoes a wet year we'll see more um the long-term weather prediction says Minnesota they don't know uh we're we're we're just in between a a dry pattern to the west and a wet pattern to the east so we don't know yet what we're going to see the one prediction we can make with some accuracy is a species that I referred to the Cattail mosquitoes they actually hatch in the fall over winter as larvae and then they come out the following summer so they're in the water right now last year we did last fall we did our surveillance to figure out where they are um and we saw the highest amount of Cattail mosquito breeding that we've seen in over 10 years um and so we're seeing a predicting a big spike in Cattail mosquitoes this year because of the heavy rain last year um so we're going to do everything we can to get out to those areas where those mosquito larvae are and get our treatments in um but we're definitely going to see an increase in that population the good thing this weather is doing right now this cold weather's doing is it's really helping with those invasive species so last year we saw one of our highest recordings ever of Lone Star tick collections um there's a there species that can spread the red meat allergy you may have seen on the news um they're a species that's not native to Minnesota but we've been finding more and more of them they're really affected by this cold weather and same with some of the the more tropical mosquito species that may come up in a a tire shipment or something like that they'll be here for the summer but their eggs won't be able to overwinter with these cold temperatures so that's the good thing about the negative uh degrees that we're seeing right now resources for residents um our website is an excellent resource where people can go look at some interactive maps and they can pull up their neighborhood um you can learn about helicopter activity you can sign up for alerts we also report um any mosquito collections that we're that we're seeing so people can kind of get a snapshot of the current mosquito picture um this is the maps that I mentioned so you can click around these Maps um you can click on uh area that's outlined in Orange and get about 20 years of data on what mosquitoes were found there what type of site it is What treatments were done and I think it's really interesting you know people think of water and mosquitoes but mosquitoes aren't coming out of you know large ponds or lakes it's those smaller more shallow areas so it might not be the pond at the end of the road that's producing the mosquitoes it's the roadside ditch where they're coming from um but we've got all that data on our website that people can explore and learn more about you can sign up for email alerts uh we we send alerts we're doing any adult treatments or uh when we're our helicopters are going out so we can let you know when we're going to be in the area and then public Outreach I've mentioned this already but a big part of our you know education is ensuring that people are helping out mosquito control so you'll see our m mascot vectoria there she is in the foreground um she makes appearances at events and parades we'll be at the Carver County Fair again this year um and then yeah there's our mosquito float as well so you'll see M our mosquito out and about um when we have additional time this year and with that I'll open up to any questions Commissioners any questions commissioner fahe Mr chair excuse me but Alex I made in our community announcements you and I meeting with the city of Carver tonight at 5:30 and then next week on the 26th we have an open house correct and if anybody wants to come and join that open house that'd be a great time to learn some more I think commissioner Anderson will be there we have a meeting prior to that where's the the open house uh in St Paul okay thank you commissioner Fey so the open house is to unveil our new strategic plan and we're we're in the process of kind of getting final approval on that so that'll be after our commission meeting which usually wraps up around 10 10:30 so around 10:30 is when the open house will begin okay question commissioner Anderson all right so thank you for being here um on a personal note if there was one mosquito left on the planet it would find me I'm that person and I also live on a retaining con so that was a smart move um from my standpoint so a lot of this job is dispelling rumors and one of the rumors is the pellets I heard this recently uh the pellets that are put out by the mosquito control board are poisonous to uh and dangerous to our children and our pets so how do you respond how do I respond to that thank you commissioner Anderson well you could respond the the materials that we specifically chose we chose because there's no harm to people um so and the one of the pictures I've used in the past you saw people handling it our staff can be exposed to it we wouldn't put our staff in danger of being exposed to anything that could harm them so the main ingredient that we use is bti and I encourage people to do research on bti mosquito control um because there's been many studies done about not just the human health impacts on it but any non-target species impact so when we think of uh you know our concern it's bees and butterflies and those pollinators that are you know at risk and in in concern and so we make sure that our products are not harmful to those beneficial pollinators um and none of the products that use are harmful to humans so we're very we take very you know heavy precautions to ensure that that's the case right and and I I I do live in chesa and so I would have been one of those people who um complained about the amount of mosquitos in in chasa and and I heard a lot of that and I felt like the cool person that that knew that this was this was going on um so tell me does our and maybe this is for administrator Hy is their website attached to the Carver County website on the this mosquito cuz that's a kind of cool thing to get um updates on when helicopters are out and and whatnot uh board chair Workman commissioner Anderson likely if not we'll make it happen we put a link out there I'm sure it is but we'll make sure I I was one of those people when I saw the helicopter I'm like I I breathed a side of relief so thank you for the work do can't wait until next week so that' be fun thank you I do know that social media lights up uh with conspiracy level uh when that helicopter is uh flying around and nine times out of 99 times out of a 100 it's it's you guys um but I might throw in a you know an alternate conspiracy every once in a while just so what are you what are you doing in your house you know so Mr Huff um Mr chair and uh Commissioners I wanted to also just add to commissioner Anderson's concern about or the the concern she's heard from the community about the materials as Alex pointed out we very much Target our materials just to mosquitoes so that bacteria that Alex mentioned is a soil bacteria it is naturally found in the soil um and it this is what I've learned recently which I think is just fascinating so most animals have have an acidic digestive system right we have stomach acid well mosquitoes have an alkaline system and these bacteria can only live in the alkaline system of a mosquito gut they can't live in anybody else's gut so for the rest of us it's just one of the many type of bacteria that you know kind of come through us they're exposed to and don't harm us at all unless you're a mosquito um so it's just one of these great really targeted um things that we have uh against mosquitoes so that way it it doesn't impact us at all um which is kind of a a cool I don't know biological chemistry fact that I I just learned since I've been in this job all right well I will I will pass that on um to the conspiracy theorist Phil just a couple questions as it relates to drone um one I've also been asked a few questions that are probably avoidable as to what's that buzzing over head you know we often hear this time of year the lights coming out of Shaka and the UFOs that are landing so perhaps there's a marker of some sort of blue dot or Green Dot or brown dot so if somebody were to see your aircraft they'd say oh if it's there's a brown dot perhaps it's that but question on the aircraft um drones I know we use a lot of drones too increasingly so they're really expensive to own and operate and people need to have a license have we ever looked at partnership to utilize the same drones um because there's a lot of unused capacity or is is it's such a specialized drone technology that we have to have separate drones um Mr chair commission commissioner it's an excellent question and I think about that you know we use we have a lot of equipment that we use in the summer that we do not use the wi um and we're always happy to partner with other governmental units to how we can share those resources our drones are specifically used to you know provide um aerial application of of material so they're often using agricultural settings um and then we just adapt it to Mosquito Control so they are specialized in that way um but if there are ways that we can partner and share our resources we always want to do so I elevate it because there's a Title Wave of uh unfunded State mandates coming our way and we have hard decisions to make in the next year if there's ways for partnership U that don't impact um some of our services and we get the same result next question is it relates to that is are is this are these drone can these drones be used to grab samples versus using human capacity because you said you haven't challenge finding the 200 people they can get into small areas uh I had an interesting um demonstration when I was in Bentonville Arkansas of using a drone for deliveries from Walmart it's coming right so I know the technology is close if not there can we use these drones to collect so we don't have to put people in Harm's Way and and have to navigate the challenges of hiring uh Mr chair Commission not at this time um we're always looking at how do we become more Innovative and how do we use these tools and uh more innovative ways we do not have that capacity right now um fortunately the sampling is not as difficult for staff they can do that right in the edge where treatment you have to treat the entire thing um but it is something I appreciate you're raising the idea and something for us to think about yeah you just dial it in last thing probably unrelated but maybe I see um James is in the back of the room turbid comes from a Latin word which means muddy or full of confusion you probably already knew that but I didn't so I Googled it the word just spoke of Muddy and dirty and wasn't it yes thank you mosquito it's it's yeah mosquito breeding when when I last left uh the mosquito control after after being there for 22 years uh the leg had changed the statute and allowed the organization to be run by a person who was not an entomologist is that you Mr Hub indeed Mr chair I am not an enologist and I don't even play one on TV uh my background is public health um and public administration okay well I think they did a good job uh but yeah we couldn't find entomologists correct uh was the problem it was such a narrow uh thing that uh to be the executive director probably have that public administration experience and being an entomologist was not uh not an easy thing so probably harder than renaming a lake so commissioner L if I could I'd like to just comp great uh presentation uh it's uh a lot of information i' like to thank uh Commissioners F commissioner Anderson for serving on your board there was a time when uh the mosquit control only went on the Eastern side of carber County and then they expanded to the entire carber County and it was uh much I live in the western part and it was uh it was greatly appreciated uh because not only that but you there was a noticeable difference in the amount of mosquitoes so you guys are very effective it's um I see your your cars and your helicopters out and you have the conspiracy theories but you have to be the one form of government where people are normally happy to see you what are you doing oh over here yeah great great to um but on the other hand myself and commissioner fah are going to go to a bunch of tawnship meetings here with the annual meeting so we at the great news to tell them that the Cattail mosquito is going to be very high this spring so we really appreciate that spread the word Mr Mr chair commissioner we're going to do everything we can to get at them before they hatch um speaking of names um you'll notice that the two mosquitoes that bother us the most one species name is vexans because they're vaccin the other is the perturbans because they perturb us all they are dob really um I know that it's been a few years now but the black fly that comes out of the Minnesota River and I think that's something that is very difficult to control I would tell you if you in a golf league uh the conspiracy theories about what to spread on your body so that the black fli stayed away from you I think people were made millionaires uh for for doing nothing uh but uh do we know what that's going to do um so commissioner Mr chair it all depends on the rain one of the reasons they were so bad is when the river floods we can't do treatment because our our permit is to do treatment within the river banks it's also just more dangerous for our staff during flood condition to do treatment the black flies are hey this is great we got more water to repr Us in um but we're really hampered there um but again it it depends on rain for the species that we see both in the Minnesota and the Mississippi you know there's always water there so they're going to grow it really is whether we are able to get in there and control them or if we're flooded out very good good to see you thank you and uh we'll see you next year all right thank you very much thank you see next week okay okay I think I have us a little behind we're going to do a public hearing ccwo watershed management plan amendment to project list so I think I'm going to need a motion open to open a public hearing so we'll move Mr chair second okay I have a motion and a second to open the public hearing for the kver county water management organization watershed management plan amendment to project list any discussion seeing none all those in favor say I I those opposed motion passes Mr Molen morning Mr chair members of the board apparently today's water day I didn't know that when we planned this public hearing ahead of time but uh it's good to see actually uh we are here today to uh look at a plan amendment to our water management organization plan which was adopted in 2020 the County Board is the governing board for the wo as a reminder couple things enter in the public record here uh the Affidavit of publication the updated table uh 5-5 of this the ccwo Water Management plan and the comments received during the public comment period and staff responses to those comments so I'll give you a little background here in what we're amending today and um this may not be as educational as the last two presentations but you are taking action today which is a good thing to see uh background on this um the last the current water management plan was adopted in 2020 um one of the policies in the plan is to update the project list which is this table 55 of the plan on a by anual basis and the list was last updated in 2022 uh the project list is used to plan and budget for the wo Levy which you adopt every year and to submit Grant requests um to the state um which is a a primary source of funding for getting these projects done uh one of the requirements of those Grant requests is that the project be included in the plan so if we only amended this plan every 10 years with a project list it's going to be out to date fairly quick so that's why we do this uh every two years or so background on the the project list itself so we prioritize this list based on uh several things which are included in our plan including benefit to a priority water body we have several water bodies in the plan which are identified as a priority these include you know all the 22 plus Lakes all the wetlands hundreds of miles of creeks and streams that um we try and do some sort of priority on on all those water bodies we look at Project Specific water quality and volume control benefits relationship to State impaired Waters uh the educational benefits of a project partnership opportunities with either cities or land owners and um obviously cost benefit um is the project going to get what we want um done here again this is what we're amending this table 55 um This was um included in your past ET and um available online as well um essentially the table has a project description the subwatershed it's located in the benefited water body what type of project it is the partners that are involved um the time frame we hope to get the project done and then the cost both the total cost and then the estimated uh cost to the W Mo to get that project done um again these are estimates so almost in every case they get refined as we get closer to approving those projects so what changes uh how are these changes determined um we looked at the projects that were completed you'll notice in the table there's a lot of projects that were done we wanted to make sure we um identified those we clarified some of the projects some of them got split into multiple projects or we redefined what the actual project is uh projects that were recommended from feasibility studies when when you adopt W Mo Levy every year sometimes there are Fe feasibility studies included in that that we get State funding for as well to identify is are is an action appropriate around a lake or around a stream and um what those projects actually are we look at City Township input landowner input some new problems that are identified around water bodies and then some staff analysis of those so the summary of changes in this list uh there are 25 new projects added to the list um we did identify 10 that were completed removed a duplicate project um three of them were broken out into more specific ones that show up in that new list and then no change there's currently 50 other projects on the list that will remain um during the life of the plan uh quick list of the types of projects we're looking at I won't go through all these but these are the different um types of things we are going to spend money on and put in the ground um all the way from stream Bank stabilization to Wetland Restorations to um certain storm water practices that would go um um working with cities on uh we've been working on this I want to recognize Kristen Larsson in the room who's pretty much shephered this whole project um timeline through we started on a draft list last summer um brought it through to our advisory committee and Technical advisory committee in the fall um in November the board authorized to release the draft for public comment and we are back here today to consider adoption of this final um list Amendment comments we did receive uh four state agencies commented on the the changes uh mostly those were support um or invitation for collaboration with the state there was a comment to keep the completed projects on the list instead of taking them off um so we did do that um Laketown Township submitted a comment of support and we had one citizen that commented and um offered several um thoughts about how we look at our plan approach um most of those comments are probably more likely better addressed when we do a major update this is considered a minor update um the comments were surrounded how we identify projects as a whole how we look around the whole 300 square mile area and um our response mostly that is that's a those are good things to consider when we do a major Plan update which will come you know essentially this plan's due for a major update by 2030 so we want to take those into consideration at that time uh with that Mr chair and the board we're looking for a motion to adopt a resolution amending the 2020 ccwo Water Management plan project list and I can take questions Mr Bine do I see two or two uh resolutions uh 110 and 102 uh Mr chair members of the board there should just be one resolution attached gra do anybody else see that in their packet at the end sh 110- 225 okay and then behind it you don't see 102 Here Am it would be yes you're you a special packet no he does have it Comm Lynch also has a special packet a I don't have a special pack but I can I can hand this to you you know what this goes back it must be an air sh I can I can clarify looking at this now uh the resolution should be adopting ordinance um I believe 110 right yeah 102 and that maybe shouldn't have been in there yeah I'll double check see how you got your special packet with Lynch chair Vice CH you guys are special it's a conspiracy go right there I'm Christ is in on it obviously CH good more the rumors people okay I don't see uh looks like uh we got drainage people in here but maybe not people that want to talk about this but is anybody in the public uh while we have a public hearing want to speak to this seeing none I would like a motion to close the public hearing so move got a motion by Lynch second by fahe to close the public hearing the ccwo plan changes any discussion commissioner fate Mr chair Paul can we talk a little bit about Venton Lake as that continues to uh we have it on number 21 we have number 23 number 73 just the cost benefit I had the opportunity to to do a canoe trip on Benton Lake and the quality and talking to some of the locals the water quality has really improved on that Lake can you give us a little more update um those improvements uh yeah Mr chair commissioner Fahy stole a lot of efforts on Benton um as you know there's a a quite active group around Benton the the Benton Lake Conservancy group um several land owners that have been involved pushing both us and the city for many years uh Benton Lake's a very it's a big challenge um historically poor water quality that probably goes back decades and decades to both the treatment plant and and egg drainage that have impacted that Lake we have seen improved water quality particularly in mavon um but it's it seems to be also translating into Benton now we've been doing work on carp in Benton Lake for several years trying to not only reduce the carp population but understand where they're breeding how to control them better we have a I think a a cart barrier put in almost 10 years ago now at at the outlet we have a system between Benton and mavon that's trying to um electric guidance system that only keep that keeps the Carp from getting into mavon but also trying to trap those and remove them doing some fish netting for those carp um we've captured thousands of pounds of carp in the last several years looking at doing some transplant of aquatic a native aquatic vegetation and uh potentially fencing those off so we can see all right if in areas where the carp aren't disturbing that bottom sediment can we get some good native vegetation which will help with other fish that are there the Conservancy group has um in the past donated some funds um mostly to uh get a some fish that can overwinter there I think mostly bluegills for fishing opportunities but they also been um adding dollars for an air raater U to keep some of the um oxygen going during the winter as well it complements the aerator we have there so there's a lot going on uh we are seeing some again slow increases in in good water quality in Benton and want to keep working on that but it's it's a complex situation for sure thank you for the update and then Mr chair a couple more questions uh number 12 13 and 14 we talk about the direct discharge incentives and unfortunately there still are direct discharge systems in Carver County and ultimately how many are still left Paul if you have a number and can we get them on board to eliminate all the direct discharge of seage into our water systems we're talking septic systems M commissioner Fay uh yeah Mr chair commissioner fa so we do you know every year we've been working on this with um W mole funding to get rid of these direct discharge systems this will be back in front of the board I believe in April we've got the next subwatershed group coming we're trying to finish up Crow River and then back fill some areas in the other bevans and Carver Creek areas that were missed uh so we'll be back in April to um look for board approval for the next cycle uh quick estimate on how many are left I want to say probably anywhere from 50 to 100 um the reason we don't know exactly is until we reach out to those land owners and and get records of what's on on site um sometimes we don't know until we've actually talked to those land owners but I would say upwards of a hundred that are left thank you and then one last question regarding Eagle Lake and hides Lake we talk about that on number 37 the curly Leaf the pond weed and then all the uh phosphorus that some of the future challenges for Eagle Lake and both of those Lakes are heavily ice fished if you go by either one of those Lakes there's quite a few ice houses out there so the fish are responding to some of the stuff that you guys are doing so great job with that but overall can you give us a little more detail on those two Lakes so um Eagle I'll start with eagle um you guys uh board had a presentation about Baylor Park a few weeks ago and um we're actually coupling with the parks department now in terms of landowner contact we're doing a feasibility study on Eagle Lake to try and assess what are the best ways to improve the water quality there is it um improving the vegetation getting rid of that Curly Leaf pondweed the mil foil that's there is it doing potentially an Alum treatment which is a um uh something that's been done on several area lakes you put this aluminum um product in the water and it it traps the phosphorus and brings it down to the bottom that might be a possibility there um we're looking at inputs to the lake some of the Wetland areas that um have been syncs for phosphorus um absorbing all that fertilizer that comes in is there a way to trap that before it gets in the lake so we're doing that feasibility Stone Eagle working with the land owners there and then hides similarly on the curly Leaf pondweed trying to see if we can get some State dollars to uh remove some of that that tends to be a big source of phosphorus in the May June time frame so if we can get that out early potentially improve the water quality there thank you okay commissioner Lynch um great job nice presentation um you did a you do a really nice job working with the cities and the townships and not only that with the residents tooo because uh if the Kirk sloughs off inside and plugs it up they have they're a wealth of information uh I think with the information that commissioner fahe wanted he wanted specifically where to put his Fish House I caught that too we were all thinking it we we'll find the right staff person to connect okay appreciate that Goodwin commissioner Lynch all right I don't think I have a motion for the resolution ution yet do I you do not for motion um uh for a resolution adopting ordinance one10 d202 amending the Carver County watershed management organization 2020 watershed management plan so moved I would will need a second I got a motion by Anderson and a second by Lynch any discussion on that seeing none all those in favor say I I was opposed motion passes thank you thank you work compreh him Mr chair I would like to make the motion to recess as the County Board and convene as the Carver County ditch Authority okay I have a motion by Lynch and a second by fahe to recess as the County Board and convene as the county ditch Authority any discussion seeing none all those in favor say I I those opposed motion passes findings and orders adopting redetermination of benefits for County ditches 6 9 and 10 one of those is my favorite I forget which one but uh they all are Mr fresman morning Mr chair and Commissioners um uh Carver County is in the process of redetermining all of our ditch systems throughout the county and on February 4th uh the ditch authorities for 69 and 10 held a public hearing um the ditch Authority received comments and then um closed the public hearing and then directed the uh ditch attorney to um create the findings and orders that are in your packet uh reflecting the um recommended redetermination of benefits um and bringing this uh process to an end uh so today at this time we have the um findings and orders for those three um County ditch systems six n and 10 um and the request is for the board to approve those findings um that were created by the uh ditch tney C I'm stand for any questions Mr frishman when was the last time these are updated um that's a good question uh they've been I I believe one of them uh we're not sure has been updated since 19 um early 1900s when it was created uh there was uh one that had some activity in the 50s an improvement project so it's likely was is done then but the records aren't real clear on last time these have been um redetermined so early 1900s and 1950s why are we rushing into this then good question well there is uh uh it really started with the our we have joint ditches um where they uh uh the ditch systems are in two counties and our neighboring County were uh started redetermining their ditches um that impacted uh that are included in cver County uh so we came to the board and decided you know long as those are being done should we do the rest of them and get them all current um and that was the direction of the board to do redetermination of benefits for all of the ditch systems throughout the county thank you okay I see uh couple of residents in the room who might have concerns uh um you want to listen to them briefly otherwise we're ready to approve we forgot the name of the tree s Sally I noticed that was not in the minutes it's a bur right bur I want to say pinoke pins don't get that big do they y of course please state your name and your address maybe your ditch uh Denise Simo [Music] 11025 Highway 25 and uh Young America Township and uh it's ditch number 10 and um in addition to the comments I raised at the last meeting I just wanted to add one thing so I'm not repetitive um mine is not the only residential property along that ditch uh we have neighbors who also are on residential acreage they don't Farm um the ditch along um goes through their yards as well and um it's yards not Fields um it's it's part of their homes as well as ours and uh so I just wanted to point out that um as it's uh being prepared to be cleared out and everything um I just hope that uh the county bears in mind that um this is not just one isolated tree and one yard um there's others and so that's all I got well and to Mr frishman um I'm assuming there's nothing we're officially passing to protect a certain tree or I'm assuming it's the uh the good nature of our the people who are going to be cleaning out a ditch uh eventually because we're not we're not commanding the cleaning out of a ditch here right we're just redetermining benefit um but um other than the public record uh we're going to count on uh on contractors that doing the work to clean out of ditch are going to be polite how do we do that Mr attorney well Mr chairman and board members I mean it really is just coordinating probably through the county and whoever's to be contracting to advise them about the concerns have been brought by the public so who's your county commissioner is that commissioner Lynch or FY Fe I gave her my card okay so he'll be he'll be out there uh I can see that um but yeah I don't think there's going to be anything uh in our resolution to to to deal with that so it is going to take some uh coordination coordination to uh to make sure that that doesn't happen so and if you need another County Commissioner Lynch would be your next bet two of them do you have a good spot on Eagle Lake to fish we got a secret place so does Fe they're very close to hides Lake never fa where are they always biting Lake Costco Lake Costco Lake Costco by the lip you're ready to go okay and you don't have any a comment sir okay something else okay something else Mr chair I'll make a motion to approve the attached findings and orders adopting the redetermination of benefits for County ditches 69 and 10 well said second okay I got a motion by commissioner fahe and a second by commissioner Anderson for uh exactly what commissioner fahe stated any discussion further discussion on that just one question I know that last time we were um together there was a um a question of the cost Associated I'm guessing that that was shared and remedied and figured out by now right um Mr chair and commissioner udman uh that is not the case I'm still working on that uh that's actually next week's next week's project okay but it's in process we know about it we're getting them yeah and um just to clarify so the next the next step in the process now that the redetermination of benefits has been approved for these um uh County ditches we have a couple more joint ditches coming uh then the last step will be to uh accumulate all the costs for uh the viewers for the attorneys for the engineering firms um and then we will come back to the ditch Authority and the det joint ditch Authority and I'll present all those costs that have been incurred over the last two three years doing that and then we'll use this new redetermination of benefits to spread those costs um and then any um and then we'll uh start talking about any projects that need to be done if there's any cleaning be done any clean outs and then we'll use this new redetermination of benefits to um separate out or allocate those costs out as well but that would be a subsequent um meeting where we're going to have the cost associated with the redetermination of benefits thank you Mr Fishman where where would this fit in your autobiography of this Stitch business first chapter I I uh Mr chair I um I kind of anticipated it being a kind of an appendix you know just a little thing but it's kind of growing it's uh and I'm hearing about you know uh Oaks and and learning about things and I still want to see that I'm going to have to find out it brought me to this meeting today where we had a lot of discussion about water and I learned a lot about from the previous um I'm still yeah so very very interesting stuff all right I have a motion and a second on this uh on this Pro this this ends our our role at this point correct uh except for um Coming Back for in a future meeting for um allocating the costs associated with this but we've now done with the redetermination of benefits for County ditch 6 n and 10 County ditch uh 2-3 will be coming back May 20th because the if you recall the ditch Authority um directed The viewers to to uh take a few of the comments and and look and reconsider uh with any uh impacts on the affected land owners so that one's still coming we are looking at March 11th potentially as a ditch meeting um and and bringing back those costs for the redetermination and allocating the cost and for the larger assessments uh the ditch Authority would have the option to spread that out over multiple years assessment so it's not all in one U then there's usually an interest uh associated with that so um all you know still some work to be done but we're we're far from done yeah we're well we're we the redetermination is the big that's obviously that's the big that's been the big project up to this point and then U we have some housekeeping and and um you know allocating costs on that but it should get a little bit easier from here on out all right thank you for all your hard work David thank you okay I got a motion and a second no more discussion all those in favor say I I those opposed motion passes thank you and great to see you guys Mr chair I tried to make a constituent out of him I didn't recognize him with his hat commissioner Lynch I'll make the motion to adjourn as the county ditch Authority and reconvene as the County Board second I have a motion by Lynch and a second by udman to adjourn as the county ditch Authority and reconvene as the County Board any discussion seeing none all those in favor say I I I those opposed motion passes County Administrator report yes Mr chair board members uh I think this was mentioned earlier but tomorrow night there is a 3110 open house that is a big project yes we've heard from uh a few folks in the community that they're as concerned about traffic on that one is maybe five and 82 so we'll be working with uh public work staff is working on game plans to try and mitigate it but it will be painful like all construction projects but you're welcome to attend that that's all I have Mr chair oh am okay thank you uh we are now going to go into a Clos session uh what do I need to read Mr County attorney you need to read the page 118 the action requested motion to enter if you could just read it verbatim which is listed there Mr chairman okay we are going it's a motion yeah yeah motion to enter into closed session oh mo there you go okay motion to enter into close session pursuant to Minnesota statute section 13d do0 live subdivision 3B and 3C to discuss attorney client privileged confidential settlement negotiations related to property ID number numbers 04.00 180210 and 04.00 9900 second okay I guess Workman made that motion yes he did he wasn't just reading uh for his health uh and seconded by commissioner Lynch any discussion on this only that you said 04 and then you said z00 Z that would be a Z4 which none would get me for that yes my apologies I corrected see I I corrected so no discussion on this motion to go into Clos session uh all those in favor say I I I those opposed motion passes all right can we get a five minute we're GNA get a five just a four minute break