Good morning. Will you please join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you for that and welcome to this uh Carver County Board of Commissioners meeting October 21, 2025. Public comments. Anybody in the room have a public comment? >> Wherever you feel comfortable. >> Good morning, mayor. >> Good morning, commissioners. My name is Courtney Johnson. and I have the extreme privilege of serving as the mayor of the city of Carver. I'm here in an attempt to stop the spread of misinformation about the sanitary sewer capacity in the city of Carver. After several unsuccessful attempts to correct this information with the county board and specifically Commissioner Udman, I've decided to address this issue before you here today. There are at least five occasions that I know of either at public events or public meetings, including most recently two weeks ago in this meeting, where Commissioner Udman has shared a specific concern regarding the city of Carver's ability to provide sanitary sewer capacity for anticipated growth in the city of Carver. For the record, I think as many of you know, the city of Carver joined the Met Council system in 2010, meaning our wastewater is treated at the Metropolitan Council's Blue Lake Wastewater Treatment Plant in Chakapi, no different than almost every community in the metropolitan area, including Chaza, Chanhassen, Victoria, and Wakonia. Following the county board meeting on March 18th of this year, Brent Merrick, Carver city manager, sent an email to Dave Hemsy, Carver County Administrator, with supporting documentation to prove that, and I quote, "Although there are many opportunities and challenges to properly plan and manage growth, thanks to the leadership of past councils, sanitary sewer capacity appears to be in good form to accommodate impending growth." End quote. Last month, I reached out to Deb Barber, the interim chair of the Metropolitan Council and our council representative here in District 4 to get the information straight from the source. The response, which I emailed you last night and placed on each of your places, um, states that the capacity of the Blue Lake Wastewater Resource Recovery Facility is secure and has sufficient capacity to support planned regional development. Just as the city of Carver has extensive plans in place so that we're ready for the anticipated growth of our community, the Metropolitan Council is planning for the region's growth, too. It's their job. A proactive phased improvement plan is already in place to ensure the Met Council will meet the capacity of the region's needs through 2050 and beyond. Wastewater capacity is not a constraint on the development service area. That's a quote that's taken directly from this document. My request and the reason why I'm here today is for the county board to address and hold those accountable when misinformation is spread. The city of Carver's anticipated growth is not dissimilar to other cities in eastern Carver County. However, for reasons that are not clear to me, we seem to be continuously identified by Commissioner Udman, whose district does not include the city of Carver as a source of concern. My fear is that this information related to our sanitary sewer capacity may lead or even worse already has led to a developer passing on the city of Carver with without calling to check in first. I would appreciate your partnership in this endeavor. Thank you all for your time and consideration. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Courtney. >> Anybody else? Yes, come on up. We can have your name and address, where you're living. >> Hi, good day. My name is Lori Ser and my address is 105 Sunny Ridge Drive, Carverman 55315. Oh, >> welcome. >> Thank you. Um, so Mr. Chair and Council Member Lynch, Council Member Fay, Council Member Utterman, and Council Member Anderson. Um, like I said, my name is Lori Ser. So, like, sorry, I'm not I feel like I'm not doing good on the microphone thing here. >> Okay. Um, and also now I have this challenge of I might need my readers. So, I'm also an elected official. So, we had our city council meeting last night. I'm elected official for Carver, the city of Carver. And um last night though, somebody was able to do this like read and then still look above. So I might be trying that soon. >> We call that the Chuck Schumer. >> I'll have to I'll have to look into that. Which is kind of my reason for being here is there's some things that I need to do my homework and look into. But first, I want to address you as a fellow elected official. And that much like your reason for getting together um is when my city council led by our mayor Johnson who just spoke you know collectively as a body we meet to discuss and determine the direction and policy of city or county. Um I live in the commissioner fees area and I've had to learn a lot on just communication. and it's helped. I've been in the council for over 6 years and before that did you know involved with different committees that you could be appointed on and um even just in my introduction today when I said good day like that's something I'm working on at work cuz I'm on a global team so I used to say good morning or like and it bugged me when somebody said good afternoon and my day had just started but that in the role of the leadership we have to think of when we say something, who's ever listening, how are they discerning it? And just really have discernment because if we're saying something like it's a fact, we need to say that. Or if we're saying something like it's an opinion, we need to help our constituents differentiate. So, it was brought to my attention that that's not always comes across. Um, and I think as elected officials, we just need to communicate better on if something's just our opinion or is there something that okay, now I actually have the information, I can speak to it. Such as, um, when I was talking about purpose of our meetings. Um, and then one of your principles, um, growth manage, oh, sorry, the goal is go growth. It's to manage the challenges and opportunities uh resulting from growth and development. And that's the hardest part for me is we don't have a lot of facts on that. We're just using our best judgment. We're collaborating as a collective body. But um when we say things as elected officials, it has a lot more weight. Um so I have more homework to do. Um I'm going to be attending a city meeting tonight where we're having somebody from Beck Council present. And there's some things I need to research before I could speak to um such as if if there was a concern about water capacity, I'm going to get my information and then I'm going to there might be some things where I do have an opinion or you know, but also I'll go and look for more information. If there's something that I have a doubt on, I'm going to go to the source and find out, you know, how do I discern what is possibility a risk because that is just the biggest challenge to plan for growth. Um, those are my comments. So, thank you for giving me the opportunity to share. >> Thank you. >> Good day. >> I don't think you ever used your glasses. >> So, she did. Uh we are uh this is a so this is the topic uh this Carver County board will be kicking off our comprehensive plan uh for 20150 uh next month in November. So we are going to get started on these issues. I'm assuming all the cities and townships in the county will be doing the same. It's a long expensive process. Uh but it'll tell us a lot more about, you know, where we're all going. And so appreciate your comments and uh and u I'm going to be more careful about what I say, Lori. But thank you very much. Anybody else in the room? >> Seeing none, I will take a motion to approve the agenda. >> Mr. Chair, I'll move, but I do want to pull one thing off if we can. Item number 2.6. If we can pull that off separately, I intend to vote no on that. Um, but I wanted to have a conversation about it. That being the amendment to number one to construction contract with Urban Edge. >> Uh, how did that motion go? You're approving the consent agenda minus 2.6. That is the motion. >> Yep. >> Is there a second? Is there a second for that motion? >> Okay. Is there an alternate motion? >> Uh, move approval of the consent. >> Second. >> Okay. Got a motion by Anderson and a second by Lynch to approve. >> It was the other way. >> No, the agenda. Sorry. >> The agenda. >> Just the >> Oh, yes. We need the agenda. Right. I approve the agenda. >> Okay. So, I have Lynch approving and Anderson seconding. Yep. >> Approval of the agenda. >> Mr. Chair, if I may, and I don't want to put you on the spot, Jennifer, but I think it's within the bylaws that anybody can pull anything off for any reason. >> I'm going to defer to administration. >> Uh, Mr. Chair, the the final approval of the agenda is the board's prerogative vote. M. You can approve. You can pull that request that items are pulled. But the ultimate final agenda is the board. So I I'd have to dig back into the rules. That's my recollection. Okay. So I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda. Any further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. I. >> Those opposed I. Motion passes. All right. [Applause] >> Approval of the October 7th, 2025 minutes. >> Move to approve as presented, Mr. Chair. >> Okay. I have >> second. >> I have a motion by Fehee and a second by Lynch to approve the October 7th minutes. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. I. >> I. Those opposed? >> Motion passes. Community announcements. Commissioner Lynch. >> Uh it's a big day for the Watertown uh Mayor girls soccer team. Uh the first time in history they qualified for the state and they uh play today at Farmington High School at 5:30 p.m. and I plan to be in attendance. It's uh uh Tony was just here. His daughter plays as a star on the team. Um, it's uh very exciting for the girls. So, I plan on being there. Unfortunately, uh uh Chaza came out and uh beat Wakonia, but you know, your alma mater in football, but uh that'll cheer you up. But anyway, I plan to be at the uh Farmington today to watch uh the girls play soccer. >> And isn't uh Wakoneia got a football game tomorrow night? >> I think it doesn't everyone >> No, >> tonight. Is that tonight? Tonight. No, they there are buys. >> Oh, okay. >> Jan Hassen has a buy. >> They'll play Saturday. I think the winner of of your game >> and I'm sure you're very happy and I'm sure you're in attendance to see the Golden Gophers beat Nebraska. >> I uh I'm very happy this week. Thank you, Commissioner Behey. >> Mr. Chair, uh just a couple of community announcements. Uh, Carver County, it's 4 day to dabble. You can register by November 1st. Just come and explore what 4 has to offer through a series of free hands-on interactive learning experiences in art, plant science, foods, performing arts, STEM, and more. The day to dabble is Sunday, November 9th at St. Joe Catholic School in Waconia. Uh, registration deadline is November 1st. uh please call extension uh to get registered. And then also we would like you to weigh in on Baylor Park plan which is November 6th and the 13th. Uh Carver Community Parks is hosting two open houses to gather community input on long range plans for Baylor Regional Park. The first one is Thursday, November 6th at Lake Wakonia Regional Park, the Paradise Commons. And then Thursday, November 13th at the Baylor Regional Park Community Room. Uh both of those times are 6:00 to 7:30 and we'll get a chance to review the two concept designs, share feedback, and talk with county staff and the consultants. Familyfriendly activities will be provided for the kids. Your voice will help guide the next chapter for Baylor Regional Park. So don't miss your chance to be part of this conversation. Uh you can go and view the Baylor Regional Park long range website. And then also speaking of football, the Central Raiders play tonight. The playoffs start at Central Field. Uh NYA will be taking on Maple Lake. That's all I have. Mr. Chair, >> good luck. NYA Commissioner Udman. >> Mr. Mr. Chair, uh we all have the privilege of serving on a bunch of committees um and as part of our roles beyond our day-to-day here. One of the ones that I have the privilege of serving on is the legislative priorities committee. So, we've been meeting with our lawmakers, Commissioner Workman and myself stood on that committee and we're with our lobbyist, a number of people as staff and uh at least one lawmaker last week, two weeks ago was it Commissioner Workman? And uh boy uh talk about addressing inconvenient conversations. the lawmaker that was there, he wanted to talk about a lot of things and we did and one of those things that we talked about was I don't remember the number, but it was in the billions of dollars across the state of Minnesota that were deficient on sewer and water capacity. Um, we know that to be true in Cologne, for example, they are not issuing building permits, nor have they for the for the for the foreseeable future. Um, and Cologne started on that challenge 15 years ago, and they still don't have funding. So even if they were to get that thing out of the ground with funding, um it would be another three to five years. So we're looking out 15 to 20 years where there's challenges within our community. So continue to go there. Kind of as an aside, on May 30th, I had a conversation with members of the Met Council here at the government center. Um Michael Sund, Kyle Kovven, Sean James, and Deb Barber. Albeit Deb was not the interim chair of the Met Council at that time. This was under Zelli. and uh the conversations that we had there were materially different than what we're presented today. And so I've asked uh if we could have a work session. I think that's the way to solve things. Um some people do it differently. It's a style issue. I agree um with council member Ser um that communication is key and uh I think that sometimes you got to solve those things with a work session. So I'd ask staff through the regular proceedings of the 2050 comp plan um that we have this conversation. Um the lawmaker that we were with expressed uh concern for two areas on the western side of the county um that are I don't know he used the word dire um but he did say the significant pressures um within water and sewer capacity I believe those were New Germany and Watertown and I know that there's um at least seven areas within Carver County that have expressed the same the appropriate time to talk about it certainly is 2050 not when we just open it up and have a single conversation but in preparation for that we also are well aware 2011 system. That 2011 system um spans a number of commissioner districts. Um and the decisions that are made in any specific district um touch on our own. Um I'll talk to you about going out of jurisdiction. We've talked about it with uh Lyndon was in the room for that legislative priorities. Imagine a world in Carver County where nobody decided to tackle 415 and 212. Not our responsibility at the county. Um but if we hadn't to take lean on that, um where would we be now? And those decisions that were made at the county board while I was been on the board and well before have serviced a lot of these growth communities and they create a lot of conversations. I I know that these will be productive conversations in the future. Um it was interesting to note that our former superintendent, Lisa Sales Adams, is tied to a school district that is considering the closure of of schools. I bring that up uh because sometimes we live in the times where we don't um really think about our decisions today and how they may impact us to 20 or 25 years. And so um it's interesting to see the compression of um uh of of students even in a growth community. Um and we have to be aware of those. I think the future is our children. I think it's the next generation. And as we heard from Micah in the last time, our 65 plus population is growing faster here in Carver County than almost anywhere else in the state. um and it's uh shrinking at the sub18. So we have to be uh uh clear on that. So that's why I share share the things that I attended since our last meeting. Got to go to entrepreneur day at um the Mustard Seed. Beautiful time for hundreds of kids to show their wares and sell things. Um I'd never been to a remote control car camp and there was a gal that her son is very interested in that. She said, "What would it look like if we had an RC camp?" I'm sharing it because I know we're talking about parks today. What would that look like if we had an RC? Um, and I don't know if it belongs in the county parks or not, but I didn't even cross my radar. And the kids were, they didn't even want when it started raining, they didn't want to leave because they were so happy with what was going on. Um, played pickle ball and I was surprised to see the age of the people that were there, all ages of the people there. And then, of course, the kids and I had a chance to ride under the 41 underpass and utilize um, those two things. Next thing I had is I had a chance to go um walk up uh multiple days uh over the last two weeks to the 600 building and um call out to the staff that were significantly inconvenienced by the move. We're trying to clear some people out of that building for various reasons, but to the move over to the 602. So I know the coordination of technology and the moving of stuff and then finding new space. I know that's on a number of employees heads and it's been a distraction. Um but I think that longer term it's probably going to be for the better. So, thank you, Heather, your team for navigating that. Um, I also see that we've had news about um um compromise of SNAP funding and other benefits that are coming our way, other things related to government shutdown. I know that our staff is absorbing some of the weight of that as well. And so, um I've had a number of conversations with both of the food shelves in our area and other not for profofits because I know that they are taking on some of the burden of the things that we're not able to do at government. Commissioner Workman and I had a chance to be with the city of Victoria. It's a scheduled quarterly check-in with our peers there. Very productive conversation. We cover all topics. We get the good humor of uh Commissioner Workman. We tackle a lot of good conversations. We're we're strategic and and looking in the future. So, uh they shared with us the announcement of Athlete Village, which we should all be um um celebrating. I believe um a taxable parcel that will bring 20 to 60 sports fields and perhaps an academy for kids addressing the need for um more economic development on the non-residential side for a balance of mix. And then I also had a chance to tour the TCO building. Um they have one of the largest employee presence in the county um in Waconia and they serve um uh the entire county. Um so I got to take a tour of that and it was it was very impressive. Um, if I go back to City of Victoria, one of the conversations that we had was the growth of their tax base. And I I asked for validation. I said, "Hey, while you're growing, isn't it typical that cities would grow um their tax uh rate would go up for a short period of time while they're funding infrastructure?" And they said, "Not the case in Victoria. Their tax rate is actually going down even though they're putting significant investment in." And I wanted to call out our staff. Um, at one time we had anticipated about $1 million of City of Victoria contribution for the Highway 5 project. um through the work and lobbying and the efforts in DC and other places um their contribution will be $2.1 million. That delta is material when you're a a city the size of Victoria. And so not only is their tax rate going down um they're also uh looking at the future of an incremental $200 million tax base through their efforts in downtown. I think if we uh we look at Victoria, we can elevate them as one of the top areas to look at when you're developing. and they're not doing it by saying yes to everybody that comes in. They have said no to hundreds of developers because they want to do it the way they want to do it. And I appreciate and respect that and I know others uh do as well. Um let's see here. Chaza Commissioner uh Anderson and myself, we pulled together a a quasi work session meeting, too, and we talked about um a number of things that are facing our community. They're hard, inconvenient conversations, and I think we got to resolve on some of them. we'll meet again and we'll continue to a quarterly rhythm and so I appreciated um a a lot of the inputs that were were had there. Um and then I I look forward to the conversations about Baylor. There's a lot of stuff on the parks here and I know that that's a state of flux and transition but appreciate you guys navigating, you know, Marty announcing that he's going to phase out and what the future holds. Again, I know that there's staff that might have some angst with that, but I think that there's good answers that are had and clear communication and uh we'll navigate this period. So, thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Anderson. >> Hi there. Thank you. I won't bore you with all of the um meetings and whatnot that I've attended, but I did want to mention um three things. Um on Saturday, November 1st, the um Chesca Historic Historical Society is having an annual meeting and it um the title is Voices in Chaza Government today and it will be um feature Mayor Taylor Hubard, um Council Member Michaela Hatfield, and Assistant City Administrator Elise Sturban. So that's at 10:00 a.m. at the American Legion Rose. if you want to attend that. Also, on that same day, Chan Hassan is having an open house. I had a the pleasure a couple weeks ago of getting a tour of that new beautiful um city campus uh by by Mayor Lee Ryan. And I would encourage everyone to attend that open house. And also I want to encourage all um community members of district 112 to go ahead and and vote the referendum um vote. Get yourself educated. Plenty of things have come in in the mail. So I would encourage you to vote and that's all I have. >> Thank you very much. I have uh not a whole lot. I Commissioner Erman reminded me of that Victoria meeting and I told him I was having a hard time listening to him because he had a yellow blotch on his shirt. It appeared to be something like a Hawkeye logo or something from Iowa. And uh we do in fact go down to I we go down to Iowa uh this Saturday for a tilt with the Hawkeyes. And uh may everybody play well, not get hurt, but the golfers, of course, we want them to be victorious and so we'll have more about that next week. Uh but that's it. Thank you. Okay. Consent agenda. >> Do I have a motion? >> Move approval, Mr. Chair. >> Mr. >> Hey, got a motion by Lynch and a second by Fehee to approve the consent agenda. I do know that Commissioner Udman has a concern about 2.6. I don't know if we're going to go back to trying to get that, but I will get with Commissioner Udman. Maybe he just has a question. >> Uh, Mr. Chair, if I may, um, I do believe it's within our bylaws that anybody at any time can pull anything off consent. So, I'd again ask that we pull 2.6. >> Um, I don't know that there's too much of a question, but I'd love to hear the context. I think that the flavor for why I'm doing so is uh I think it's lost on some people how tight our budget is this year and how tight it's going to be the next year and how tight it's going to be the following year. And when we have 50 or 60 or $70,000 change orders, um I think they need to go checked and uh that's what the that's what this item is. And uh so again, I'd appeal to the board um to follow our bylaws and pull it off uh for consent and for a separate vote. Otherwise, I'm going to abstain for the vote for consent. >> Okay. Chair Strand. Uh, we do have the language and attorney Myra. Oh my god. >> Jennifer, >> Tishi can uh I went way back in Tener. Uh, Tishi can uh >> would you pull that microphone toward you, David? >> Yeah. >> It is consistent what with what administrator Hemsy indicated that prior to approval of the consent agenda, any member can propose removing an item for further discussion. Um, placement of an alternative item on the final agenda requires formal approval by the county board. So you can propose it, but it needs to be a majority vote. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Sorry, Jennifer. >> Okay. So, I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion on the consent agenda? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Those opposed. >> One obstension. >> Motion passes. Four to one. Okay. Regular session 3.1 resolution of support for suburban transit provider. >> Morning, Mr. Chair. >> Good morning, >> commissioners. >> Thank you. We're here to support our suburban transit providers. As you know, last session there was a few legislative moves to change the way our suburban providers function. So, obviously, that's pretty concerning considering the partnership we have with Southwest Transit and what a great agency they are in serving our public. So with that, Eric Hansen, the CEO of Southwest Transit, asked the board to consider a resolution before you to support the suburban transit providers. Eric being the expert, I would, if I could, Mr. Chair, invite him up here to give you a little background on the issue. >> Excellent. >> Thank you, Lyndon, for your words about Southwest Transit. We appreciate it. We appreciate the partnership with the board, too. I know that we have, you know, met on a number of issues regarding transit. I do want to provide a little bit of context as to why this is coming right now. Um, and um, I've had an I've been kind of we have our own lobbying agenda, of course, and we've been I've been working um, and having kind of direct meetings with a number of dis different legislators. I think I'm up to about eight focusing on the House and Senate Transportation Committees as well as our local legislators. Um, and I' I've had some interesting meetings and initially I um I do think there is a movement to do a couple of things at the state legislature uh this this coming year. Um, one of them um is uh elimination of suburban transit providers, the opt outs as we sometimes refer to them. There are four of us. Um and uh some of it actually to be honest with you and kind of a related issue is kind of what happened at the end of the session last year where the county's uh funding for the regional sales tax was also potentially compromised and I know that the board and a number of people were at the legislature um talking about that. Um, I will tell you that I had heard specifically that uh, Representative Kaggel, who is the DFL co-chair of the House Transportation Committee, had expressed in a public meeting some desire to do both of those things to take money away from the counties as well as eliminate the suburban transit agencies uh, to give to the Met Council. Um I had a meeting with her last week and she indicated to me that yes indeed she is um interested in those two issues in this coming session. Um some of this is also being driven by some other representatives as well. Um and I will tell you that you might say well this sounds like a partisan issue. You know you've got DFL legislators in the central city wanting to support metransit etc. It's unfortunately not quite that simple. Um because I think that one of the risks uh that we run is that what's happening is the same issue that you're facing here in terms of budget issues. This coming session is going to be a discussion about the budget. Last year the amount of allocation for Met Council was reduced uh from general fund legislation. Um, and my belief is that there is some interest potentially even on the Republican side of saying, "Wow, this might be an opportunity to reduce Met Council's allocation from the legislature, and we're going to take that money and fill their hole from the counties and the suburban transit agencies." Um, and so this is a very real threat, I think, in this upcoming session. Um, and I just want to kind of paint a picture, you know, for you about what it might mean for the county if Southwest Transit didn't exist because it's been a long time. It's been more than 40 years, you know, since that was the case. And the concern was that we would not have the same level of service. And my tell you that you won't. You know, right now we cover our entire service area, including Chanhass and Chaza, Victoria, and Carver and a piece of Wakonia with our on demand ride share service, Southwest Prime. Um, I am sure that portions of that of Metro Transit um were in charge would be cut. I can tell you this for a fact that there are communities like Minnetonka and Bloomington that I've had discussions with their elected officials and staff who have expressed concern that they're not receiving that level of service from Metrotransit and have asked us to provide it for them. Um, and so I know there are communities adjacent to us that are interested in these kinds of things and you know Metro doesn't have the same kinds of interest because they're looking at it you know completely differently. just to give you a few numbers um because we're pretty effective uh as as an agency. Uh one of the measures of how people feel about us is that people write us and I will tell you that if you compare the last 12 months uh wrership growth versus the previous 12 months, uh Metro Transit has lost 4% of their total wrership in that time period and we have gained 17%. And we are the most the actually the fastest growing transit agency in the state just in terms of wrership. Our cost of overhead um 22% um of our budget goes towards administrative overhead. Metro transit is 24%. Um, I could, you know, one other measure that's going to be coming out here pretty soon in the regional route analysis is that it costs us $12 a person uh to send people to downtown on our express bus on the same service. Metro Transit, it costs 15. Um, I have no doubt uh that Southwest Transit is an agency that is efficient, provides a good service for the community, and that we would have less um if if uh we were dissolved and folded into Metro Transit. I don't mean this as a way to suggest that, you know, to take shots at necessarily other people, but it's an important uh narrative to to see in terms of what our citizens might be experiencing. uh it'll be less service and it'll be less efficient service. Um so to that end um my board has already passed this. I will tell you that the cities of Janassen, Chesca, Carver and Victoria have already passed uh a similar resolution. Um and um so you would be in good company for sure in terms of the county. Um and um um we do appreciate your support. Um and um you know, please let us know if there's anything we can do on some of these other issues that are also facing the county. Um with potential funding and uh we certainly appreciate your support. Yeah, I'd be happy to answer any questions if you got any. >> Well, thank you, Eric. Always good to hear from you. Anybody have any >> I don't know if that's good, Commissioner said. >> Yeah. Uh well, you know, I uh I guess I'm a little longer in the tooth on this issue than probably my board combined, but uh as I ran for the city council in Chanhassen in 1988. Are you an 86 here? Started in ' 86 or was it 88? >> 86. Yeah. Um, and uh, I can tell you about uh, the battles we have had over the years long before Eric was here. Um, the funding got changed. So, it wasn't as pure here's your property taxes you're collecting and we're going to use it to run our TR. has gotten very convoluted on our funding a little bit, but um there there's been an attack on on our transit system, our opt- out transit system for a long time. Um, and you brought up other communities who want the kind of transit we have, the the nice cushions, the wifi, the the flexibility. Um, we we uh we we sort of been fighting this issue for a long time. When I was in the legislature, I represented the west half of beautiful Shorewood on the shores of Lake Minnotonka and got together with the city manager there and the city took the amount of taxpayer dollars going to transit and divided it by the ridership of Shorewood. The ride was $70 one way. So $140 round trip was the math for the tax collected divided by the rides. They were getting no service in Shorewood, but they were paying the bill. That was sort of the common theme of transit. protect the core, make sure the core worked, but collect the money from the outer ring, but not give them transit service. And I think we're arriving back at that spot again. >> Uh I appreciate the facts. the facts are lean in our our favor and uh to go back to go back to the Shorewood model uh that that the the suburbs pay for mediocre transit service in the inner core I I don't think is a way to go and so uh I'm going to Hopefully this resolution passes unanimously. I'm hoping that we are going to send a strong letter with this resolution to our legislative members who represent Carver County and let them know we we know what's what the plan is and what the monkey business is. I was a member of the regional transit board starting in about 1990 and it took a while but we finally blew it up and a bunch of those good people did come over to our transit system. Len Simich and Dave Jacobson and others and we have long run a great transit system but that thing has been very fat for a long time and um you know on the brink of hopefully pro providing better service to growing Carver growing Victoria hey let's pull back is the wrong wrong answer on transit and so um And who knows where Southwest Light Rail is going. So, we'll have to know more about that. But, uh, I 100% support Southwest Transit and this resolution. And, uh, I hope you will, too, and stay vigilant. So, Commissioner Anderson, >> Chair Workman, and Eric, thanks thanks so much for being here. Um, in addition to this resolution, sending this to our legislative body, will we send this to our Met Council and our Met Council reps? >> Absolutely. >> Commissioner Lynch, >> I would have to say I'm very proud of the partnership we've had with Southwest Transit for a long time. Um, if you have an issue with u the Met Council, I think it's frankly, Eric, that you're too efficient. uh you said all the matrix point to Southwest being very efficient and uh I'd be more than happy to uh support this at any time uh going forward and and not to mention you said all of the cities have already approved it uh which just goes to prove that the level of service that you're providing is topnotch. So >> Mr. Chair Commissioner Fee >> Eric, thank you for being here and providing the background. I'll make a motion to adopt the resolution of support for the suburban transit providers. >> Okay, I have a motion by Commissioner Fee and a second by Commissioner Anderson >> to approve a motion to adopt a resolution of support for suburban transit providers. Any discussion on that? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. I. >> Those opposed. Motion passes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate it. You bet. >> County administrator report. >> Uh Mr. Chair, board members, uh this week is employee appreciation week. the highlight of which is a lunch today and then a recognition and a ceremony afterwards. So, you're all invited to the 11:30 lunch down the EOC and then 1 1 p.m. the rec recognition event will be held including not only years of service but some of our retirees and there's a rumor there's a former commissioner Dler coming back to visit us. So, come on down and uh >> make sure you express express appreciation. >> Good thing it's a rainy day. Yeah, true >> for that farmer. >> He's been out in the field today. Worked out perfectly. That's all I have, Mr. Chair. >> Okay, we are going to move into a close session and Commissioner Lynch has a motion to read for us. >> Um, Mr. Chair, I'd make the motion to enter into close session pursuant to Minnesota statute 13D.05, 05 um sub 3 C 1 through 3 to review confidential appraisal data of real properties at the northeast corner of County Roads 33 and County Road 135 Norwood Young America, Minnesota uh ID number uh property ID number 0203460 0 and a portion of the property on the west side of County Road 135 of intersection section 102 102nd Street and Norwood Young America, Minnesota. Property ID number 020270910. Thank you. Come on, >> Mr. Career and Radio. >> So, that was a motion >> and uh I guess I got a second by Commissioner Udman and I think the room knows why I make that Commissioner Lynch's task. Uh very very sister Cecilia would be very proud. Okay, I have a motion and a second to go into close session hearing. No other discussion. All those in favor say I. I. >> Those opposed. Motion passes. Thank you.