Good morning. It's now 10 o'clock and I call this meeting of the senior advisory committee to order. Thank you all for being here. Let's take roll call. Sharon Bellifi. >> Yes. You >> Susan Bill present. >> David Seinfelder. >> Hello. >> Hello. Richard Doyle >> here. >> Alina Pasarelli here. Jennifer Spalding >> here. Kyle Newbar >> present. >> Patrick Jones is not here. >> Patrick. >> Cara Cassidy. >> Well, welcome, welcome, welcome. Uh, the first item on our agenda is petitions, proclamations, suggestions, or complaints. With that, staff, can you provide the committee with a summary of upcoming? will give me one moment to pull up the slide deck here. [laughter] Must be having some >> I'm off to the races. >> There we go. >> There you go. >> Minor technical difficulties this morning. [cough and clears throat] >> All right, we have some fun upcoming events and news for you today. Um, we have our Donuts in Victoria series. I always like to kick start our news and events with that. So, November 19th in just a couple of weeks, we are doing our Alzheimer awareness presentation at the rec center, 9:00 am to 10:00 a.m. as donuts is always at 9:00 a.m. at the rec center, at least so far. Um, this is one of the items that was brought or the topics that was brought by this committee to staff to present on. And as we continue on with our conversation of how do we reach older adults that don't necessarily have access to digital information, this is a really good way that we can reach folks. So, as we think about maybe some topics that we'd want for 2026 and 2027, please let us know because we would be happy to fulfill or fill our calendar with um some different topics and ideas. And then speaking of, we do have some of our 2026 lineup uh scheduled. So, the first one is January 21st. Uh it's going to be about community committees. So, committees like yourself, um senior advisory of course, parks and recck and planning commission. just talking about what each committee does, um, what their purpose is. Um, and then I'm going to be talking to our chair and vice chair, but I'm going to offer this to all of you. If you want to sit on that panel or be part of the conversation, please let me know. We'd love to have any of your guys's um, thoughts for [clears throat] And then the last one, at least the last one I'm going to share here is February 18th, and that's going to be about Victoria Library resources. I know Patrick isn't here, but he has mentioned to us wanting to get on the um the docket so then he can explain extended access and hopefully um tell people how to get access to extended access. If people aren't aware, Victoria, our downstairs library, is the first in Carver County to have this program. So, what extended access is is outside of our library's typical hours. Um you can if you have a card and a code um go to the library on times that it is not open. And I think they do have a time frame. I think you get there at 8:00 a.m. to 1000 p.m. is the time frame that you can be there at, but you can go when there isn't staff at the library as long as you have your specific key card and code. So, something new that's happening here. I know that um they're utilizing this as kind of a a test site and then hopefully expand it to the rest of the county after they see how this works here. So, more information to do. So, I signed up for it. You can sign up on the website um for the extended access and then you schedule a 15-minute meeting at the library and they make sure that your card is set up and you know your PIN and they explain what happens um when you're in there by yourself and you may not be by yourself because parents can bring their kids. Anybody can have extended access who's gone through the training. Um, but it is uh a place with Wi-Fi that you can sit and work, you know, quietly in a library um before or after they open. So, it's really simple >> and that's available now. >> It is for a while. >> That's great. >> I'd also add that I've used it a couple times and it is wonderful. [snorts] >> Okay. >> Good. Mother's going to love this. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yeah, I bet. >> Um, also wanted to highlight Blades of Giving. This is an ice skating event at the Victoria Recreation Center with our partnership with the school district. Um, as you may or may not know, the we do the city owns the Victoria Recreation Center. However, the two sheets of ice that are at the recreation center are actually owned by the school district, but through our relationship and partnership with them, um, we are able to get additional ice time. Um, so we are putting on a blades of giving ice event. You do have to bring your own skates, but it is available for the public if you want to get out there before really gets cold, um, get those ice skates going. Um, it is at 10:00 a.m. to noon on November 22nd, and there is a cost associated with that. So, you can register online or you can pay um, that day. [snorts] And then the last one is Light Up Victoria. This is our annual light up celebration event. So, that is going to be held Thursday, December 4th at 6 or 6 o'clock to 7:30. And it's going to be right here at Bayront Park. So, visits with Santa. We'll light up downtown as the official light up day. Um, we'll have games. There'll be um hot cocoa, apple cider, all the fun winter giving. >> The blades of giving. What is the giving? Is it food or >> just a fun event? >> Oh, okay. It says blades of giving. So, I thought maybe you bring Okay. [snorts] >> And with that, I will pass it over to Cara. >> Good morning. I apologize for running in last minute. Um, we have a new office within the county building and it is exactly a quarter mile away from our old office. So, sometimes I have to walk up to the old office and get stuff and walk back down. [laughter] So, I become a little delayed. But anyway, um, my big report is um, there are a lot of emergency food um, available throughout the county. Um, I brought some flyers like the libraries have uh emergency food bags. Um, I see Alyssa already printed out the need food resources in Carver County. And then um on Thursday there is a drive-thru good food giveaway in Chesca. So these are for uh anyone can can come and get food, but we wanted to make sure that there was food available for people who perhaps have lost their their benefits this month. Um, I just read that all of our winter diseases seem to be uh slow to show up. So, flu is low, colds are the highest thing right now. So, uh, stay healthy. Uh, there's also a little bit of a lack of federal data. So, um, most of that information is coming from, uh, state health departments, local health departments, and, um, reliable sources. And I think that's all I It's good to be here. Good to see everybody. >> Cara, the Thursday food drive. Where is that ina? >> Um, that is at I believe it's the old pickle factory. If you know where that is, it's 2100 Stton a Avenue. S T O U G H T O N Avenue in Chesca. Thursday, November 6th from 4 to 5:00 p.m. >> Do you know on their website, can you sign up to volunteer? Because don't they have drive-thru? And I I did that years ago, but not for a while. >> Yeah, I believe on uh it's Bountiful Basket. >> Okay. >> Uh is who sponsors that uh in collaboration with Carver County and I believe they have a sign up. >> Thank you. >> And cars just drive through. It's really great. You just put stuff in cars and then uh you're there while supplies last or uh it becomes five o'clock >> and we can drop off food as well at the home. Um >> at Bountiful Basket, not at the drive-thru. >> Bountiful. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Uh, and before we move on, committee members, do you have anything to report? Okay, we will move on to our next item, which is approval of the committee meeting minutes. Is there a motion to adopt the meeting minutes of the October 6th committee meeting? >> So move. >> Motion made by Richard Doyle. Second. Second by Jennifer Spalding. All in favor? >> I >> I opposed. [clears throat] Motion carries. Um there's no old business before us, so we can jump right into new business. First item today is the presentation from the community risk reduction specialist and fire inspector Zack Peglo. >> Welcome. >> Good morning. Thank you for having me everyone. >> Um so my name is Zach Peglo. I'm the community risk reduction specialist/fire inspection. Fire inspector, a loaded title, for the Victoria Fire Department. I'm here to tell you a little bit of who we are and what we do for the fire department. Um, I've been with the city for six years on the paid on call fire department side and as a city staff. I started in public works and then this spring I actually moved into this full-time position as fire inspector/ community risk reduction specialist which was a brand new position to the city and fire department. Um so a little bit about the fire department is it was founded in July 7th of 1913. Um they hosted a fundraiser which they sold 16 barrels of ice or excuse me 35 barrels of ice cream and 16 barrels of beer to raise $854 uh to purchase a chemical fire engine. Um back in the 1950s the fire department membership was 57 firefighter firefighters. So it essentially turned into a social club. If you lived in Victoria you were on the fire department. Um, and then just a little statistic here. So, we were at 57 firefighters in the 1950s. In 2012, we dropped down to 21 firefighters. So, currently today, we sit at 31, I believe, which we'll hit on the next slide, but was social club back in the day. And then on the screen here, you see our 1929 fire engine. It was the first motorized fire engine the city ever purchased. We still do have it to date. It does run and it's more of like a parade and event truck now. We don't bring it on actual scenes, but still does run and the community loves seeing it out and about. So, a little bit about the department is we have three full-time staffs. We have a fire chief, a deputy fire chief, and then myself is that community risk reduction specialist, fire inspector, and then we do have 28 paid on call firefighters. >> So, that paid on call is when our pagers go off. I don't have one on me, but pager goes off, they come to the scene or go to the station and then they head to the scene. And then we are slowly starting to transition into a duty crew model. So those duty crew models are where we staff the fire station with three to four people on week nights and Saturdays is currently where we're at. So those three to four people will if a call comes in, they go take that call and the rest of us don't have to come in. So it's a little more of a staffed model where it's people can schedule their time more and then the people that are at their house don't have to come into those calls if it unless it's something big. So um and then just like any traditional fire department we do fire suppression, medical response that is largely what we do as majority is medicals rescue hazmat and then public education is a big part of what we do as well. So go to events like truck rodeo, light of Victoria will be at all those events and then we also do more on that public education. So we do hands-only CPR, first aid classes, we'll go to the schools and teach all sorts of fun stuff like that. kind of going into that fire code and prevention a little bit. Um, last year in 2024, we spent over 500 hours interacting with the community in those outreach um, activities. We also do plan review developments within buildings and new construction um, inspection. So, we go out and inspect new construction for buildings that have fire suppression and [clears throat and snorts] inside of them and then fire alarms and all that kind of fun stuff. So, we'll go and inspect that, make sure it's being built to code, being maintained. And then one other thing, one other big inspection piece we do every spring is liquor license inspections. So, um, to hold a liquor license in the state of Minnesota, you do have to pass an annual annual fire inspection. So once again, we're going out looking at your fire alarms, your fire sprinklers, making sure you don't have locked doors and people can egress the building safely and making sure the building's safe ultimately. So a little bit in 2024, we responded to 410 calls for service. On the screen, it is it's blocked out there, but 70some percent of those calls are medical related, EMS related. So when we talk about like big house fires or a house fire, we only get one or two of those a year on average. We do provide mutual aid to neighboring cities. So that does increase that fire number, but traditionally in Victoria, it's usually only one or two structure fires a year. So you can see there's some other calls. We go hazmats about 8%. Um, good intent call. So that's someone that calls 911 saying, "Hey, fire alarms are going off. there's nothing going on, but they want to get it checked out. So, they're trying to make sure everything's safe. A good intent call. And service calls might be something like a broken water pipe or something in their house. They may think it's a sprinkler or in a building a sprinkler head may have broke, but they want to make sure it's all good and ready to go. Um, one big thing the community and the fire department has going right now is we are in the process of building a new fire station. As I'm sure many of you are aware, a little bit how we got to this place. In 2020, the city adopted a space needs study which this was on that midterm plan in that 5 to sevenyear range. So, we're right at that fiveyear right now. Back in 2023, the city purchased land from Holy Family High School um kind of right underneath the water tower. if you haven't been by is where the building is being constructed. In 2024, we started designing the building with CNH Arch Architects and then this past June, we started construction and we're hoping to be in the building here next summer of 2026. And then the next slide here is a little fly through video. Hopefully, we can get it to work. Sorry, I'm trying to get it to go full screen. Maybe not. So, this is entering the building off of Coachia. So, the water tower would be off to our left right now. >> Holy Family would be to the right. >> Uh, be off to the left. >> To the left. >> Yep. [clears throat] >> So, this would be the front entrance here. One thing we currently do not have is a public front entrance in our fire station. So, the doors are always locked. We don't have a lobby or anything like that. So, this will have that public area that people can come in anytime. [clears throat] So, Holy Family would be kind of towards our back right now. >> Sorry. If anyone has any questions or you want me to pause, feel free apparatus base. And this bell here is actually the original fire bell from the first fire station the city ever had. It was at the first station station behind um Noble Lion when it was there. It's currently at our new fire st or at our current fire station and then it will be moving to our new fire station. And we'll jump inside here shortly. Walking in the front door up in that front lobby area. They'll see that original fire truck like I mentioned before, that 1929, the first motorized firet truck the city ever had will be on display there and then we'll be able to continue to bring it out to events. lobby here. Front desk. classroom slashemergency operations center. So, one thing too is this classroom and there's some conference rooms. The intention is to be able to let those be rented out by community members. So, you could have your neighborhood HOA meeting there, stuff like that. Um, jumping into the like administration side. So, there's some cubicles, desks, and whatnot. Um one thing the building department so the building inspectors and official will be moving to this new building as well. Um how the city is structured is we are a public safety department. So the fire chief is also the public safety director which means the building department falls under him. So all inspectors and officials. So they'll be moving to this building as well. a workout fitness room. Some green space out here. So, if people want to work out or do activities outside, they can. This is kind of a on deck room is what it's called, but more of little administration area for the firefighters. So, they have mailboxes, they can do reports and all that administrative tasks. We [snorts] work our way into the apparatus bays. So there'll be four bays on one side and then there's a center area which will be our decon and training area. So one big thing is firefighters are 106% more likely to um get some form of cancer just because all the carcinogens and bad stuff we deal with when there are fires. You see that toxic black smoke. Yes, we do have state-of-the-art gear and everything possibly get to try and prevent us from getting these cancers and bad things that get into our body. But that whole decon area will allow us to take showers. We don't currently have showers at our fire station today, so it'll be able to allow us to help try and mitigate those problems. And then a kitchen upstairs along with there are bedrooms or dorm rooms. Um, so we currently don't have overnight staffing today. So it will allow someday in the future. We don't know when that will be, but we're building for the future of allowing overnight crews to be there. The goal with this station was try to build it for that 40 50 year mark. So not just for today, but what's going to happen in that 20 30 40 years down the road. So we can have that adaptability and flexibility with the building. Our current building that we are in today was originally built in 1982. So we're at that 40ome year mark. And then in 2006 when they added the water treatment plant, they did some exterior remodels and added on a little extra space. But one of the misconceptions of today with our current fire station is they drive down the road and they see this big beautiful building and it was originally built in 82 and then in 2006 they added on and did a facelift to the exterior but they essentially did not touch anything on the interior. So we still have cabinets from the 1982 area era. They still work but they're showing their age and starting to fall apart. And >> we're also at max capacity. like there's a training room um that's in there that we sometimes use for staff meetings, but when you talk about a fire department, that's 31 folks now. Um we're we're definitely when you have training opportunities, when we're having public events in that space, we're at max capacity and and probably a little bit overflowing max capacities. Um >> when we have >> Go ahead, Z. >> I was just going to say when we have every firefighter in our room with standing in the back so we don't have a seat for everyone. >> And then Zach touched on this the level of carcinogens and challenges that we currently have with the fire station. Um because we don't have space inside outside of our apparatus phase, our gear, like the gear that's supposed to be protecting our firefighters is sitting in the same spot as where our fire trucks are. So all the exhaust, all the fumes, um everything that's being or on those trucks is in right next to within a couple of feet of the gear. So the things that are supposed to be protecting our firefighters aren't necessarily that clean. Um, and they're getting that on their skin because they're wearing that so frequently. So, this new space, Zach mentioned, um, we have a decon area in this new fire station. Fire stations are now built in phases. So, there's a red phase, a yellow orange phase, and then a green space. Um, so where fire trucks come in from a fire and gear comes in from a fire, that's a red space. Um, then you have this decon room, which is then that yellow area. So, that's where the showers will be, any cleaning for the fire gear will be. um the the clean fire gear, locker rooms, and that will be that yellow space. And then anything beyond that, like the staff areas, the new fire trucks, um the EOC, the training rooms, that's all in a green area. And we actually build our HVAC system to make sure that those areas are separated. So, we're not necessarily blowing air from the red area into the green area. Um it's flowing in the opposite direction. >> Did I touch on that correctly? Is that >> question? >> Yeah. Quick quick question. Maybe I'm getting ahead of you, but projections going forward, how long is this building going to last us? How many trucks are we going to add? Like 10 years, 5 years kind of thing. >> Um, the only truck that is on the future dock to add, I think it's not till like 2029 or few years down the road is a ladder truck. Currently, we do not have one, >> but that would be the only one we're planning on adding. And a lot of this is all like development growth driven. So we don't if let's say the city was to jump 20,000 people in the next 10 years we'd like to think this building would be able to sustain that and just all depends on that staffing model. So, if we increase a lot in calls based off development growth, we might be looking at adding more additional staff, whether that's more paid on call, part-time, or full-time. But ultimately, we're looking for this building to hope hopefully last that 40 to 50 year mark. >> And I'd also like to note on location. And I know we've talked about this in the past, but I I think it's important to note that before we determined the location of where this building was going to be. There was extensive studies with the U of M, but also with our own team of where is going to be the best location for this fire station, not for Victoria today, although that is important. Um, but what Victoria is going to look like in 50 years or when our we're fully grown out to make sure that we're hitting our numbers of that 10 to 8 minute radius or less. Um, so this place of this station was taking that under consideration. So when we're growing, you know, towards Pearsons or we're growing into Lake Town, this fire station will still be able to hit those areas. >> Do they ever plan on doing anything with that intersection? Because right now, morning, afternoon, Holy Family traffic, you walk, there are trails back there. That's a dangerous intersection to cross. Do they a yellow light? I'm sure they'll will there be something when [clears throat] trucks come out, but what is is there a plan for that intersection? >> It's a great question. I don't have that answer. I can definitely ask our engineer because that would be a county intersection. It was a county road there. The one important piece and we kind of saw it in the drive in the fly through. Um but the trucks will actually exit directly on to County Road 18. They will not be on Coochia. So, there's going to be an entry point, which we came in at on Coia, and then the the trucks, not the public, will be able to exit um right on County Road 18, >> but the Holy Family traffic and the speed that cars go down that road um and with the trail connections. Anyway, thought I'd ask. >> That's a great question, Sue. Sorry, I was trying to pull up the picture of where the trucks were going to exit, but apparently it's not working. Um, [snorts] any other questions or comments on this new >> Is that where the red doors were on that one side? >> Yep. More on that side. Correct. >> So, there's a side of red doors towards Holy Family. I mean, on that side, then the Holy Family building is like the tennis court. >> Yep. So, the we can pause it kind of in this left. Oh, >> that's okay. >> Yeah. So, directly left would be the Holy Family. If we're looking kind of straight on, 18 would be down. I suppose you guys can't see my mouse, but 18 would be straight. County Road 18 would be straight in front of us on the other side of the building. >> So, the the front of the fire building faces 18. >> It actually faces Holy Family. >> Oh, that's what I was wonder. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Yep. So, we'll pull out of the station, kind of hang a right off to the driveway to get out of the facility. [clears throat] >> So, Holy Family will be to our back right now. The soccer fields would be off to our left. >> You can see this driveway that goes off to the left. That is going out to County Road 18. >> Oh, okay. Those Yeah, those >> you'd be exiting right here and the soccer fields toward back. >> Okay. >> You touched on a little bit staffing wise. Um, what percentage is paid versus volunteer and how with the building are we looking to ramp up in any category? >> Um, as of today, I think we're sitting pretty good. Um, so we have the three full-time staff and then everyone else is paid on call firefighter. Yep. So, we're not technically volunteer anymore, but we're looking at continuing to grow those duty crew shifts and positions as it the city needs it. Okay. >> And we are going to start uh a new duty crew position. So typically or historically our duty crew position has been paid on call slashduty crew. So you can decide on you are still paid on call. So when there's all calls um such as a big event or we don't have duty crew shifts, everyone goes or as many times people can go, you go. >> On a duty crew, you're scheduled like Zach mentioned to be at the fire station. So not everyone else has to go. Um so this new model that we're starting to was just brought to council, I believe, last month. Um, and we're we're offering it internally currently is that it's a duty crew only. So, you can um you're not going to be an all call person. So, when calls come in, you're not doing those all calls. You're only a duty crew person. So, you're only going to be there scheduled whatever those shifts might be to make sure that people are continuously at the fire station, especially during those increased times. So, we know that, and I'm just making this up, like Tuesday at 6 to 8 o'lock >> [clears throat] >> increase year after year after year. Um, we'll schedule duty crews to fit that space because then we know people will be there. >> Now, for duty crews, I don't want to say like just because there are people there. We also know that big fires happen. So, there's a situation where we need more people, they will ring the bell, metaphorical bell, and [laughter] to the fire station. Mhm. >> One big thing I didn't hit on with these duty crews is the duty crews are staffed the station with three to four people versus having to come in from your house, go to the station, then go to the scene. On the paid on call side, I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, but when we're on that paid on call for the all call when people come from their house to the station to the scene, it's somewhere in that 8 minute time frame from when the pager goes off to the get on scene versus when we go down to that duty crew model, we're somewhere in that 4m minute range. So you think when seconds count the lives, we're saving almost four minutes right there >> to put someone on scene, a fire apparatus on scene. So, there are some big benefits to that when we're talking that time frame of getting firefighters on scene. >> And when is construction what's the goal for having this completed? >> Um, >> yeah, we're looking at June of 2026. That's very weather and construction dependent, but that's kind of the goal right now of June of next year. >> Okay. Exciting. >> Yeah, I'll be here fast hopefully. Before we move on, I did have a question. Oh, perfect. Um, no, it's okay. It was going back to some of your data from last year, so it doesn't have to do with the building. If you want, I can hold on that. No, >> you're good. >> Um, I was just was curious, you know, given that we're the senior advisory uh council, the calls for service of the 410. >> Do you have any data on of these, you know, these were, you know, 55 plus or elderly individuals? Just trying to be thoughtful on of these. Is there anything that we as a council could do to try to educate or mitigate some of these, you know, instances from, you know, a senior um was it, you know, a hoarding or they somebody fell or, you know, something that we could try to, you know, think about as a group to try to um proactive and helpful? >> Yeah. Um, so one thing when it comes to our call reporting is we don't put in their age or anything like that. So, we don't have specifically specific data on people's demographics more so, but a lot of it seems to be like just going off my head of more like seasonal. So, in the winter we see a lot more slips, trips, and falls on the ice type of thing. Um, in the summer, like we tend to see more of more so for like kids sporting events, more that heat exhaustion and stuff like that. But I can try and go back through some of our reports [clears throat] and get you some information on ones that might calls or >> sure >> data that might pertain more to that senior aspect. I'd be happy to do that and I can get you that some of that information. >> Great. Yeah, >> appreciate that. >> Anyone else have questions for Zach? >> Got one quick one. Zack, you do your inspections. [clears throat] Do you uh have standards for when people add electric vehicles to their garages and do plugins and so forth? >> No, as of right now there's nothing for that. Um I shouldn't in the residential. No, in the um commercial side or the apartment building. So like at Roars for example or the row building, they have a bunch of electric vehicle chargers in the basement and they have a their fire suppression is a little different down there. It allows it to handle a larger volume of water with the expected EVs being parked there. Um in the residential there is nothing for the fire prevention side as of yet. We are still in the Minnesota 2020 fire code, so we're a little behind the times. It comes out every 5 years, so or four years, excuse me. So, starting next year, we should be enforcing the 2024 code edition. Um, I don't know if there'll be anything in there yet. It hasn't came out, but as of right now, there are no real true rec requirements for electric vehicles >> really. We just had a fire in our neighborhood. Vehicle kind of blew up one night. Yep. >> Damaged houses on both sides of it, but there's no standard for that kind of thing. >> As of right now, no. >> Wow. >> There is an electrical inspection required though when the chargers are installed. >> They do have to get electrical inspection. Yep. Through the state. >> But there's not fire prevention. >> Correct. >> Fired. Okay. Got it. Y. So we this year's fire safety theme, the national theme was tailor around e or um lithium ion batteries. So there are some things you can do like make sure use an approved chargers and not overcharging your device. When we're talking when I'm saying device here, it could be anything from electric vehicle to your phone. I mean this has a lithium ion battery in it. They're everywhere we go. So making sure you're using approved chargers or the original specified charger, the one made for that device, not overcharging your device. A lot of thing what the nation is seeing now is kids are sleep or not larger amount of kids are sleeping with their phones underneath their pillows. that's [clears throat] causing. We want to make sure our phones are out in a space just like so when we're charging it so that the heat it's not building up heat underneath a combustible material like a pillow or blanket. So, there are some tips to trying to make sure we're being safe around these lithium batteries. >> Good tips. >> Talked to my daughters about them. [laughter] >> Yeah. So, we haven't seen anything in the area with being related to phones underneath pillows or blankets, but the nation is seeing it. There is some data behind that. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. >> Any other comments or questions for Zach? Anyone? >> We're going to go through the next couple. >> Yeah, I got a few more slides and then Yeah. So, obviously there's some services we offered. We talked about the fire side, responding to calls and all that. But some other stuff we do outside of that is we do home safety inspections. So, we'll come in and check your smoke detectors. We can change the batteries. We can change your smoke detectors out if you get new ones and want new ones. Um, smoke detectors are recommended at that 10year mark to be replaced. We want batteries to be changed every year. The new thing going into that lithium ion batteries is we're putting lithium batteries in our smoke detectors. >> Oh, Lord. [laughter] >> So, Yeah, that is a new thing. It's a cool technology cuz then that battery is good or they're supposed to be good for that 10 year mark. So, we don't have to worry about going in and changing the batteries or double A or D battery every year or um so that is nice in that aspect, but we are then putting more lithium batteries in our house. I'm not saying lithium batteries are bad. It's just a something new the world is seeing currently in the last couple years. So, we can come in, change your smoke detectors, go through your carbon monoxide detectors, make recommendations, and change them out if needed. Um, blood pressure checks, we do do this free of service. Once again, um, if you come to the fire station between 8:00 a.m. and 400 p.m. Monday through Thursday, we can do that. or if you call us and say, "Hey, I want to see if you can check my blood pressure tomorrow at 6 PM." We can be like, "Yes, we have a duty crew on." And they would be happy to do that. So, we do offer that free to residents. Um, one thing big too is our hands only CPR class. We offer this quarterly, hands only CPR. So, we're not This is not the whole AHA, American Heart Association card that you get. This is just basic CPR on how to do it. and how to save a life. So, you can sign up today on the city's website for the February class. I do not believe the rest of the 2026 schedule has been posted yet, but the 20 the February class for 2026 has been posted. >> I'd like to put a plug in. Just took your last one and it's great class. >> Yeah, it can quite literally save someone's life. So, it's a great task to know. And I just heard I think it was fifth graders are now going through the class in Victoria Elementary. >> Maybe it was sixth grader. >> Well, that's a good idea. >> Yeah, I want to say it was fifth graders. Someone was telling me their kid was going through it. So, >> that's great. >> Yeah. >> Good test to know. >> Maybe it's through the police department. Did did you offer at one time car seat inspection or car seat installation? >> Yeah. So, that is uh through the county. I believe it's >> Cara might Oh, >> yeah. So, yeah, we do car seat inspections. I think typically it's in Chaza or Chanhass and I don't know that we've done one in Victoria. And then coming in 2026, um the Office of Aging, aka me. Uh we're going to do car fit, which is helping people make sure that their car is set up for them to drive it. Mirrors, seats, steering wheel. So, um, I was just thinking Zach and I should connect to see if we can bring one to Victoria. >> Yeah, I love that idea. >> Yeah. >> Excuse me. Did you know that Chan did Carit a number of years ago and it was really successful and basically they used the fire station as an ent. >> Yeah, it it was great. >> Thank you. Yes, that's I heard the history and uh when we relocated our offices, one of the nurses was like, Carrie, you should bring back carpet. I'm like, what is carpet? So, it's coming back. Yep. >> That's a good idea. >> Does the county offer um fall prevention assessments like in home visits? >> They do not. >> Okay, that's interesting. That would have cut down on the calls. But yeah, I I know a lot of my uh senior clients have a lot of trip hazards in their houses, a lot of area rugs and >> things that >> cause damage eventually. So, >> AARP might Okay. There's a local >> Metropolitan Area Agency on Aging. They're not. What are they treat? What are they now? >> The trellis. >> I mean, they do a lot of presentations that come in, but they can't make people remove stuff, but they'll do presentations. >> Right. Right. >> That might be a future topic for donuts as well as So, one of the reasons I brought Zach here is for these extra services offered. These are things that people don't necessarily recognize at the fire department. Right. >> And thank you, Cara, for jumping in on the um car seat and caricked. One of these things we'll want to do is make sure these are added to the senior resource and then find ways for how do we help promote these services throughout the community. Um so things like hearing that slips and falls happen to be one of our higher call rates in the wintertime. What can we do as a committee to broaden people's awareness of resources related to slips and falls whether it's or what can we do for as a city to bring some of those resources here. Um, so just start noodling over that, especially as we kind of transition to the next conversation. And I anticipate we'll probably um have that conversation continue over a couple meetings because it is really important. Um, so just have those in the back of your mind as we're hearing from uh Zach and then we're also going to have someone um presenting next meeting. Um, skip ahead just so that I Oh, I'm not related to this slide. Um, we have the senior community services that are also coming next. So, they'll be presenting on some of the services related to Carver County as well. >> Okay. >> I have a quick question for you. How does somebody schedule um the service of coming in and looking at the smoke detectors and carbon monoxide? Do they just call the fire department? >> Oh, the fire department. Um our contact information is on the city's website or there's business cards up front. Call us, email us, and we can schedule a time to come out and [clears throat] for you. >> Okay, great. >> And these are just some of our main services. So if you guys wanted a neighborhood class on we'll just use slip trips slips trips and falls for example like we can come in and tailor something more for you. So these are just the main things but we can also tailor an activity or event or class whatever it is for that group of people by request. So happy to get out and engage with the public teach and interact with you guys. Love doing it. >> Great. >> Thanks. Yeah, >> thank you. >> That is all I have unless there's some more questions. >> Thank you so much, Zach. >> Yeah. No, >> free to reach out with anything and I'll see if I can find some data on that >> for you. Appreciate it. >> Yeah, even anecdotal. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Well, you're welcome to stay and listen to our next topic because you might have some input for us. >> I actually have another meeting I got to run to at 11. So, >> appreciate the time everyone. Thank you. Thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> We appreciate your time. >> Okay. Our next item is a continued discussion of opportunities to reach residents without digital access. >> Take it away, Alyssa. >> All right. Wonderful. Um, so for those who were here last meeting, you'll remember this. For those who weren't, I just [clears throat] really brief recap on what we talked about. Um, and because I'm looking at the time and we have about 15 minutes left, I'm sure we'll have this on the agenda for next meeting as well as a discussion um because it is just so important for us to talk through these things and really understand how we can better reach our Victoria residents, all of them. >> Um so for those who weren't here and just for a recap, what we talked about is opportunities to reach residents that don't necessarily have those touch points uh through digital means whether it's through our Facebook, our website, um any other social media or email even um because we do a lot of e- newswsletters as well. Um, so we talked about different communication tactics. We talked about ways for opportunities to expand. Um, and then what we didn't necessarily touch on in those priority topics and then also ways to integrate older adults into our digital communications better um to really have better representation of older adults on our social media, on our e newsletters. Like what are those opportunities for us? Um, so just kind of going back, some of the opportunities to connect that we talked about were donuts in Victoria, citizens academy, our parks and wreck brochure, which is printed. Um, we have those city and city partnered events where we bring our new city mobile hall um to different events and people can um talk to staff, ask questions. The fire department with Zach's new position um has been really out and about um at different events trying to connect with residents, share those resources that are available. And physical signs we talked about as being really important whether it's, you know, the ones that we had for ebikes that kids were then using as target practice or um it was talked about as actually having like a formal digital sign that we could use alongside of Highway 5, which we talked about through the Arboritum area transportation plan is a potential possibility for us to have one of those LED signs that we can put events and different resources on. Um we also talked about what what are we missing? Uh a physical newsletter was mentioned. So yes, we have the parks and brochure, but we don't necessarily have that digital newsletter to connect people with other sorts of information that aren't necessarily recreation and parks focused. Uh we talked about utility bills since that is an opportunity or like those are mailed out every month. So, there isn't a lot of space on those. However, since they're mailed, there could be an opportunity to put um some notices on there about, you know, different things that we might find as important as a city. Um there's opportunities for volunteers. We talked about holy family either whether it's handing out flyers or just finding other ways to leverage our volunteer community to help share awareness. We also talked about um having some sort of like kid kid or teenager tech teen class. Um so having older adults meet with teens and teaching them how to use their phones or having question or answering questions on their computers. One of the things that we've already started talking about as staff is related to donuts in Victoria. We're having our uh IT director coming to present to this committee in I believe in January to talk about AR, AI and QR codes because those are really big touch points on technology nowadays and also really scary words for a lot of people um no matter what age you are. Um, but we're also having him present at [clears throat] maybe then we can partner with the library who does do tech classes and instead of having that class at the library, can we do it after donuts right after our IT director's class on AI and um we also talked about uh connections with senior facilities. Last month we had Jed, our parks and recreation director uh share about the new furniture uh that is going to be at the recreation center. So how can we now leverage that uh those areas to then make those community connection points, whether it's just like having an hour for games every week or hour for coffee or whatever those places could be that could be formal but also informal. And then hopefully that generates a spot where people can pick up flyers and they know that resources will be available and they can answer questions at that specific space. Um, we did talk about permanent signage. Um, reliance on faith-based institutions. We know that those are really important. They have bulletins that go out. they know how to connect with older adults or people that are potentially not necessarily able to get information out. Um, so those are just opportunities that we more or less talked about at last meeting. Um, and then we led into, you know, we have a lot of these I'm going to bring it back. Um, we have a lot of these opportunities that we could do, but sometimes it's a question on, you know, what are the priority areas of communication? I'm going to take utility billing as an example. There's a really small space on there. Um, so what information should we on there and how do we direct them places? So, in a situation like utility bills, you open your utility bill and it might say, "Hey, um we have opportunities for and I'm going to pick on the fire department because he was just here. We have opportunities for CPR classes if you're interested." >> You still have to go to the website though. Like that's how we're going to direct people to get information. So, how do we identify what are those priority areas to get on utility bills because there's only 12 uh months in a year to get on those. But then how do we direct people? What is the most And we did talk about at last meeting um and I don't want to forget about this is maybe there's now a phone number that's associated with that. So it's not just go to you know victorin.gov it's go to victoriamn.gov or call and then we'll have our mainline who then that person can [clears throat and cough] help register the right person to answer any other questions or get them in contact with the fire department in that case. Um, so that's kind of where we left it and where we we we understood as a committee where we need to go. Um, one of the opportunities that Kyle brought up was maybe we prioritize them is need, wants, and curious. So, you know, some of those need areas as residents, what do you need to know? Um, since I work in elections, the first one that brings up to my mind is elections, utility bills, um, transportation. Those are the big areas that, you know, as your daily life, how does that impact you? You more or less need to know those areas. Um, what do you want to know? What what are things that are important just for your day-to-day life that is more of an improvement base? Maybe you want to know about our parks. Maybe you want to know about our trails. Um, and then more curious things that don't necessarily impact you on a dayto-day, but are just really good information to know. And that might be something like the new future fire station. That's kind of a fun thing for people to know. It's not necessarily impacting you on a dayto-day. Um, but it's good information for you to have. And maybe I'm wrong on those. Um there's nothing to say that I could be correct on the ones that I just listed in these examples for this committee to talk through. Um but that this list or whatever this list could be will help us as staff to be able to understand okay um we recognize that these are opportunities that we can use um but what information should be plugged into those and which ones make most sense for certain things. So our physical newsletter might be more on a curious level because we have more opportunity to do that. frequently or utility bills where it's more limited. We know those are targeted for more older adult audience. Maybe those are more need to knows or want to know. >> Having not been at the last meeting um with the digital communication you listed, can you go back to your slide about Okay. No digital communication. So, in order for me to find out anything about what's going on in Victoria, I need to either physically go to the recreation center or look at my booklet that came in the mail or go to the city website. I noticed the city doesn't post a whole lot on Facebook. Um, do they? >> We do. We have a pretty active social media account. So, we have three different social media accounts if you're interested. We have the city's main page um which we use for things like um well we'll post like information on city council meetings, planning commission meetings, update people on that general information we'll post. We also have a parks and recreation page that's more specific towards recreation opportunities. Sometimes we'll cross so you'll see on both. Um, and then we also have one that just started, which is for the Victoria Fire Department, and that's related to Zach's position of having that community risk um, officer in place to really help reduce, you know, slip, trips, and falls, fires, whatever those might be. Um, and hopefully bolstering up our social media presence on those to give people more awareness on some of those areas. >> Oops. some of that in order though what communications are set sent out or like today the recreation center is going to be closing early blah blah blah you have to sign up to get on those and do a lot of people know that or how much how many people are utilize some of the services and do you do any eblast like Van Hassen, Chesca, Eden Prairie. Oh, our new booklet is out. You know, you get emails on that or you get digital. These are upcoming events. Um, so and I'm I'm asking because I probably haven't been in touch with everything that's available. So, can you explain that a little more? >> Of course. I think that's a great question, Sue. So, and this is something the committee has also talked about in the past. So, I'm going to tie it kind of back into the conversation. Um, but we have multiple different city digital newsletters that people can sign up for, e newswsletters. Um, you do have to subscribe to those. We are not legally able to scrape from like our utility billing, right? >> Send people information that's not related to utility billing. Um, so you do have to subscribe to those. If you do on our city's website, there's a couple of them. We do have one for each committee. So, if you're interested in parks and w you can sign up just for the parks and recck committee ones, planning commission, just the planning commission ones, senior advisory, just the senior advisory committee on I believe we have, I just sent it out um last week about 133 people that have subscribed to our committee alone [clears throat] to receive when our agendas are. So, that's >> okay. >> Um we also have ones we just have a general one that comes out every two weeks and that one is just on city regular news. So we do a lot related to transportation in the summertime when we had the fiber projects coming along. We'll post that. >> Um >> but they're all different interest based >> are different based um one of the ones that I do know our neighboring communities does do related to digital communication. Again it's not non-digital communication but just in the conversation of broadening our reach totally. Um the city of Chanhasson because I subscribe to these gets a 55 plus digital newsletter. Um so it's ones that are just based on senior resources in the community. So that is an opportunity that we could look at expanding and doing. They do theirs at least once a month. So that's something we know we don't necessarily do. That could be something that this committee discusses. Now I'm going to tailor that back to past conversations with from this committee is we've recognized that you do have to subscribe onto the website for those but Based on this committee's recommendation, we do now have a paper form that events um in our table. So, if people want to subscribe, they don't necessarily want to go through the hassle of going to the city's website and figuring out what buttons they can click. Um we just have a sheet of paper at donuts or at our city booth that will just say, "Okay, here's my email address added on here." And then you can select which one you want to subscribe for, the menu you want to subscribe for, and then staff will take that back and we'll subscribe for you. so that you still receive those. >> Thank you. >> I think we also touched on the fact that parks and w um brochure is going out to all residents that we could potentially have a page dedicated in there to our interests. And I would love to see that dedicated phone number in there along with all the opportunities, right? And so whoever that lovely person is here on staff answer them. Um could just ask them, you know, we have several newsletters that we can um sign you up for on email or can we ask them if they can be mailed to those potentially, right? >> I don't think a lot of people are not have access to digital. I mean, you don't know many people that don't have a cell phone or iPad or computer, >> but it's how to get access to things that would be relevant. The booklet comes out. Was working out or playing pickle ball the other day. This sweater bingo. I read about it like two months ago. Had no idea. I mean, so there's no com and like I said, I'm probably laxed, you know. I read about it, but if I didn't put it on my calendar right away, I don't remember some of the things that are going on where if I get a or you know newsletter kind of every couple weeks or monthly thing that's kind of triggers something to remember that >> I'm thinking along the same lines that Sue is that the way this is worded getting reaching people without digital access. I don't think there's hardly anybody. >> No, I mean that nationwide it looks like I just looked up the pug charitable trust says 10% of people 65 and over here in in Chan or in Victoria it's got to be half that that don't have access because we're not rural. We're pretty healthy community and so forth. I think it'd be better use of our resources to to really focus on communicating digitally. >> Exactly. like more more frequent newsletters. Blast this, blast that. Here's the party. Here's the the uh donuts in Victoria, you know. Can we can you do uh emails to all the residents? Anyway, >> you're not able to >> just just all you have is that that reaches everybody is the billing on their utility bills. >> Yeah. If you have a email address tied to your utility bill, otherwise you have to subscribe right specifically for that case. >> How is that communicated at every donuts with the deputies or I mean any event? I mean, is that communicated rather? I know you have a sheet of paper. Is it talked about >> every once in a while? I know it's um we don't always mention it, but we can make sure that's mentioned. Is there anything the recreation center sees a lot of people? Is there any way to communicate it there when you walk in that building? >> Um or even have some dig is there a digital board there? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They use them for schedules. >> Yeah. So, I think we're missing opportunities that some things that we have that older adults participate in that we don't take advantage of more repetition to get messages out to people and how they can access electronic things. >> Get everybody to sign up for the newsletters. >> Would that be where come having a page in the parks and wreck >> brochure because that does go to everybody and you know really slashy hey 50 community, >> you know, here's all the opportunities to partake in. Call this number. >> Yeah. >> Call this number. Yeah. >> And then maybe after if they sign up, you know, not wait months or welcome, you know, to this digital communication for the 55 and whatever community, you'll be hearing from us, you know, with upcoming events, I don't know, quarterly or whatever as events arise. Um, stay tuned. Is there interest from the committee? Because now I've heard from two and I just want to make sure we have a quorum on this that there would be a if there's interest in starting a 55 plus newsletter, digital newsletter. >> I think we have to think through I I I have an interest, but I think we have to think who's going to be in charge and what are opportunities. Um, I mean, what would we promote now? Donuts with the deputies. I is that and some classes. I'm I know they've got the Golden Circuit Mon or Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. They've got some classes at the rec center that are geared towards more um pe older adults. Although she works you out really hard, but anyway. But what other things are we promote promoting and who who on the city staff is going to take the initiative to listen to feedback and maybe look for what more can happen? >> I think that's a great question and I'm going to answer it for the committee. I you're you're looking at the city staff, >> right? [laughter] >> The answer was gonna say >> I think that would be this is a great committee. So then you know to your your second part of you know one of my questions then for the committee would be you know what goes [laughter] back to this top [clears throat] priorities like what are things this next month that are important. If this is a monthly newsletter I would ask today you know what would we like to see for December as part of that and it could be you know the slips trips and falls. I work with the fire department to bring something up to that. Maybe it is like making sure people are aware of events. So, you know, and this is selfish because I think we want people to to come to all of our events, but light up Victoria or some of those donuts classes that are coming out. Um, it could be, you know, in the summertime we talked about ebikes and trail. So, making sure that those things are brought to the fold. So, I would look to this committee and maybe it would be a standing item. you know, when I talk about my city events that are coming up, it's a question of what do you as a committee, what do you hear from your [clears throat] neighbors? What do you see? Um what are those priority areas for this upcoming month um to include in that one specific communication of digital newsletter? >> And I think, you know, just to I realize we're we're at time and I understand that the percentage is getting lower and lower every year of people without that um from a digital access standpoint, but we're still talking about 600 to a,000 residents that don't have access to digital. So, I think it would be just to carve that out and say we're just going to focus on here. Um, I think there's still that opportunity in addition to digital, but access doesn't have transportation. So, while you might have these events going on now, I don't maybe have digital, I don't have a way to get there. And so, what are those bridges that we can get people to and from? Um, when we think about and probably for next time, maybe it's looking at the needs, wants, foods, right? Is it food, transportation, elections, right? Things [clears throat] that we need to know about. We're coming into a cold season. >> Um I know for a fact that, you know, Holy Family does have uh day of giving, but I've also had brief conversations with some of their um leadership as well and said if somebody raises their hand in the community and says, "Hey, we need our shovel or our our sidewalk shovel, call us. We'll get kids out there." Yes. Right. So, when we're talking about slips and falls, is that something? Right. or yard cleanup, whether it's fall or spring, there's opportunities there. So, starting to prioritize because we can't, you know, boil the ocean, but are there one or two things within each month? And, hey, by the way, we're getting into a colder month. Think about these things. There are resources. Call the police station, call the fire department. Maybe they could be the liaison into >> family this to say, "Hey, there's a there's an individual or a family. they could use some yard cleanup or they're having a hard time shoveling their drive >> to get their vehicle out >> to be able to get to certain things. So, >> I also think we could probably all spend weeks >> researching with the faith-based communities, with the schools, with local contractors even to come up with some community resources that we could start providing to especially some of the elder orphans, right? people who maybe are homebound and just letting them know yard cleanup, small home repairs, you know, things like that, there's someone to call, >> right? And we work with Cara on >> how are you going to reach those people. >> That's why we're talking about people who don't have access to digital and I think just because everyone has a smartphone doesn't mean they know how to use it, right? I have >> to go back to that with the young adulthood holy family helping. I think we have to start there is helping the seniors with their digital devices. >> Sure. >> Really truly because it's like you said, Kyle, how are they going to how can they call or notify, you know, I mean, they can call the fire department to get, you know, help. >> Yeah. >> But where how else can they do this? Well, and I think too, just because they can get email on their phone doesn't mean they can see that. >> Correct. >> Right. That's >> most seniors have some form of macular degeneration, right? And it's hard to read emails from the phone. >> So, >> will the new I know the library has some computers. Will the recreation center have any terminals for the public to access? >> Not public computers. We do provide free Wi-Fi at the recreation center and then as part of the furniture we will have um bar stool that actually have outlets on the wall for people to plug in and play. >> Um I from what I'm hearing from the committee I think this is really good discussion. I know many of you have lives outside of this. So I I definitely don't want to take too much of your time. I'm available for you guys to continue. Um but I do want to to summarize from what I'm hearing from what I'm hearing this is a multiaceted approach. There's you know no chicken versus the egg. there's no one first. It it needs to come from all fronts. So there's a level of education of getting people connected to >> um technology. So those classes are important whether it's working with the library to get those into other areas not just library. Um there's that level of then how do we get people connected to those resources? So the digital communication, how do we make sure people are aware that those resources are available or that communication channel is available? more specifically. Um, and then there's also that level of making sure that we're prioritizing what information needs to go in those as well. So, understanding on our end what information should we be sharing and and this is I think really helpful discussion from us as staff of recognizing like we know that there's these programs we can hand out flyers but what are making sure this is red flags as a need especially when it comes to this time. um and making sure then then we know to [clears throat] promote that in the ways that we we can promote that. Um so it's really that multiaceted approach of really understanding all three to to hopefully help this issue. It's not a a quick fix. It's definitely going to be a challenge, but >> I think we you offer such so many great things and I'm learning as we go and I'm sure everybody else here is. So maybe it's as simple as on a quarterly basis or some cadence a little did you know >> you know something that maybe we've promoted but we need just a refresh. So did you know we can do blood pressure checks? Did you know the city offers somebody to come to your home and do CO2 or you know an inspection for you? Right. Did you know um that we have these resources available and then have a call to action for whether whether it's that or QR code that takes them to the city of Victoria website. Right. and then or a splash page to directly to a 55 plus >> or the food bank or election information, right? So, it's something that maybe is a tagline in the future that we could prioritize what is that month, that quarter, that one or two things, right? To not try to boil the ocean. So, >> agreed. >> Yeah, agreed. Um, with that, does anyone have any other business they'd like to bring up today? >> I don't know if this if this is other business, but um the Chanhass Senior Center is having their open house today for their new building. They had a on Saturday they had the opening for the city hall and it's from 10 till noon today. Um, didn't happen overnight. the senior center, the their senior commission started working in 1992 and it's evolved. Um, so if you have time and want to stop over, it's I mean it's taken a while to get where they are. So it's a beautiful building with a lot of resources and >> near the rec center. >> It's brand new city hall right downtown. Okay. Right in downtown Chanhass. >> So >> lovely. >> Yeah. I just have a few things. Um, December 3rd is our next meeting at 1000 a.m. It is. Um, now I got to check to make sure I put this wrong last time and I got to see if I put the wrong date again. Say this out loud. >> Weird. >> It's December 1st. I did it again. [laughter] December 1st. >> Thought so. I was like looking at my calendar here the whole time like I hope. >> Is that the right one? >> Good catch, by the way. Yeah, >> I was saying it. I was like, gosh, I could have got that before. But it's December 1st, 10:00 a.m. We changed it once before. >> Um the senior community services is going to be touching on some of the services that they provide kind of in that whole entire mantra of trying to understand what's out there so then we can help promote it as much as we can and then um we'll continue to bring back this discussion. Um but we also need to look at our senior resource guide for 2026, make any updates and changes. That should be a really [clears throat] quick item. Yeah, >> I almost brought um a compliment to our committee. Chan Hassen, I think Sharon brought it has >> developed a senior resource guide modeled after ours and they're redoing it once again, but >> ours was kind of the inspiration for for theirs. >> That's great. >> And then I will be sending you an email after this meeting. We have come up with the 2026 meeting calendar. Um, it is still in draft form. Council officially has to approve it in their first meeting in 2026. But I want to get it in your hands because if there's any changes, I can let you know, but there probably won't be or if they are, they're really small. Um, and then it gets into your hands faster and you can block off your dates. Perfect. >> I also think as a matter of just homework, I know we've um been able to meet some of our neighboring um cities senior advisory council members and just share ideas and stuff at the aging and place um gathering. And we've been able to collect a couple of their calendars and newsletters and things like that. Um, we should maybe like go out to like Edina's website and Woodbury's website and just see what they're doing for their senior communities. >> You know, it gives me something on that. When you're looking at communities, you kind of have to compare communities of the same size and amenities. So, to go to a dinina, that's >> Well, I'm just saying model like newsletter ideas, right? if we're going to start creating a senior newsletter specific maybe just see what they're talking about um you know or other communities possibly >> just a thought >> uh just to note that is what we did when we were creating our senior resource right >> in our website it's continuously look at variety of different communities cities that's the one reason that this committee determined that there was no senior resource guide because no one else was doing it so we decided okay we should pick that up and obviously how it's been spread throughout the state. >> Smart. So smart. Okay. Um, any other business from you, Alyssa? Well done. Okay. If there are no more items to come before the body of this meeting, can I ask for a motion to adjurnn? >> I move we adjourn. I second. >> And a second. All in favor? I >> opposed. Motion carries.