[clears throat] All right. Good evening everybody. Welcome on this snowy evening. I am calling the Monday, December 8th, 2025 planning commission meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. Tonight's meeting is being conducted both in person and online. Members of the public may attend in person or public may also watch this meeting online at burnsvillemn.gov/meings or view us on Comcast channel 16 or 859. The public can also join us on Zoom by going to zoom. us/join. More information is available on our meetings web page and in the agenda. Our first agenda topic tonight is the adoption of the agenda. Commissioners, have we had an opportunity to review the agenda and can I get a motion? >> Motion to accept the agenda. >> All right, we have one >> second. >> All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. All right, moving along. Um, our next agenda topic is to approve the minutes from our November 24th, 2025 [clears throat] meeting. Have you had an opportunity to review the minutes? And can I get a motion? >> I move that we adopt the minutes from our last meeting. >> Beautiful. >> I'll second that. >> All right. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Motion carries. All right. Our third agenda topic tonight is a public hearing of the application of Schmidian Suns for a planned unit development amendment to pave an additional parking stalls, reduce green space, and allow more than 50% of 24 gauge and thicker metal accent material for the garage exterior wall and for a conditional use permit to allow a 32 ft freestanding sign at 3100 Highway 13 West, take it away. >> Thank you. Good afternoon, commissioners. Uh, thank you for being here despite it being so cold and snowy outside. Um, today I'm going to discuss item three, um, the application for Schmidian Suns for a PUD to add more parking stalls and implement a phase site improvement plan and a conditional use permit to allow a 32 foot freestanding sign at 3100 Highway 13 West. The lefth hand image is a zoning map. Um and the right hand image is the aerial image of the subject property. Um the lefth hand image shows that the subject property is zoned GI gen uh gateway industrial heavy and then other other nearby subjects subject or properties to the uh west and north are all similarly zoned. Um, it is also guided as MRQ Minnesota River quadrant in the 2040 comprehensive plan and directly south is the highway 13 west and frontage road north. Some background information on the topic. Um so as part of this PUD request there are two main themes which is to reduce reduce greenhouse or green space and also to provide some flexibilities in terms of building material uh design and uh materials in general. Um the PUD amendment is to provide more surface parking on the southwest portion of the property. Um to reduce greenhouse and building perimeter landscaping. um to wave the three minimum building design criteria for the new garage and exceed the 24 gauge or thicker metal accent material um for the new garage as well. Um there's also a conditional use permit request to allow a 32 ft monument sign on the property. Uh it is proposed to be a four-phased project. The first phase of the project would be the installation of new parking stalls to the southwest portion of the property. The second phase would be the installation of a 22x3 ft tall door at the south elevation of garage A and replace it with an existing adjacent man door and overhead door with a 14 by13t tall overhead door, a new man door. The third phase would be uh 22x3t tall overhead door on the north elevation of garage B and C. And then the fourth phase would be the removal of the existing sheds in the north side of the property and replacing it with a 29,000 foot garage for bus fleet vehicles and then the addition of 19 new uh employee parking stalls in the northwest portion of the property. And um [clears throat] this application is to get appropriate approvals related to the property and increase parking on site um that that the applicant believes is insufficient at this time. Some general background on the subject property. Um the subject property was constructed in 1978 and was originally occupied but not by Menards. Um Menards did relocate to the adjacent property to the east in 2005 and uh Fairchild Equipment purchased the property in 2012. Uh currently the property is a multi-tenant building um with Napa Auto Parts and Discount Home Furniture in addition to Schmidian Sons. Um there have been multiple PUDs on the subject property. Most notably is the one from 2012 in which Fairchild Equipment received a PUD approval um for application dev2-26 um in which they received a PUD approvals to allow outdoor storage. Um they received approval to uh pave six uh pads to display their heavy um equipment. Um, I should preface that Fairchild Equipment was a heavy um equipment uh retailer. So, they sold things like forklifts, um, trailers, ski loaders, those sorts of things. And so, the purpose of that was to display their products on those pads. And as part of a PUD benefit for that request, um they wanted as part of the PUD benefit, um was to convert that existing, uh Southwest parking lot into green space and then have those six parking or those six pads there to display their equipment. Um what Schmidian Suns is requesting is to reinstate that parking that was there um in 2012 and prior to that as well. And here's just an image of the existing uh property. Um this image isn't directly north facing. The north is actually in this image the far uh east side. Um but you can see that there's a significant amount of green space in that uh southwestern corner. So in this case it would be the west side of this image. Um and then there's existing sheds on the north side of the property. So in the image the east side you can see the existing sheds. And then this is the proposed plan in which they would be installing new parking stalls in that south uh parking lot area southwest. And then in their fourth phase, they would be building that new garage um in the rear of the property and the installation of 19 new parking stalls. So as part of the PUD um I briefly discussed that the three or the two main themes was to decrease the green space on site and then also to provide some more flexibility in terms of building design standards. Um I'm going to go into more depth about specifically what they're requesting. Um they're requesting to convert the southwestern portion of green space into a parking lot. So this would decrease the overall amount of green space on the property. Currently the property has 19% green space. um they're requesting to decrease that down to 9%. The ordinance requires a minimum of 25%. Um so it is further reducing that um down to 9%. Um the ordinance also uh requires a 50% building perimeter landscaping that is 6t in width. Um the applicant is requesting to memorialize the existing building to have a 13% um and then for the new garage to be 28%. >> [clears throat] >> Uh the benefits for these um reductions um is that it would provide substantial landscaping and vegetation to be installed along the frontage road. Um so that south property line and then the west property line on Washburn Avenue. Um and then also Schmidian Sons will dedicate a portion of the southwest property as a walkway easement. Um the sidewalk may be uh may be reconstructed with the highway 13 reconstruction project but is not needed for the future project. Um, in terms of building design standards, um, the ordinance specifically states that, um, there's a 50% limit on metal accent materials, so 24 gauge or thicker, um, on the exterior wall of any facade facing a frontage. So, in this case, this would be the new garage um, facing Washurn Avenue. And then, uh, there's also a request to wave the three minimum building design requirements for that new garage as well. Um the PD benefit or the excuse me the reasoning for this is that the new garage is looking very similar to the principal structure by using similar materials. Uh for instance it would be the same uh brown color uh same siding materials pitched roof with ribbed steel. Um and then the new garage is also behind the principal structure. So it is not as visible as the primary structure and there will be significant vegetation planted along Washburn which will provide uh adequate screening and there will also be a fencing um there's existing fencing on site but that will be replaced with similar fencing as well. So that's providing additional screening on site [clears throat] is also in addition to this PUD there's a conditional use permit request. Um, this request is for a 32 square foot monument sign on the property. This will be um proposed to be installed near the south property line. Plans show that it's outside the easement. Um, this may potentially change with the Highway 13 reconstruction project, but um, nonetheless, the applicant is requesting uh, for 32T monument sign, and this is to display all the tenant names that are within that building. Um the ordinance specifically states that for multiple occupancy buildings such as um industrial and commercial and retail uses that are exceeding um 10 acres in size um may request uh either a cup or a PUD um for uh to increase their freestanding sign that it's larger than what's typically allowed um specifically what's outlined in table B of section 1030 uh 15 15 excuse Um that specific section provides details about how large a freestanding sign can be depending on the type of road it is and also the speed that that roadway is allowed to [clears throat] be. So for this specific property um that sign would not be allowed to be more than 20 square ft in size. Um the subject property is uh 11.77 acres in size and has three tenants um and is mainly used for commercial or excuse me industrial and retail purposes. So uh they have an adequate um meet this ordinance in which they can apply for conditional use permit. Um and they are only requesting 12 square feet larger than what is currently permitted in our ordinance. In terms of building materials, um the applicant is going to be doing slight patching and repairing to the existing materials um on the siding during the installation of new overhead doors. Um the new garage is intended to complement the principal structure by using similar materials. Um as mentioned earlier, this would be materials such as brown vertical ribbed steel and brick veneer. Um same pitched roof made of ribbed ribbed steel um windows with aluminum frames and similar color. Um and as mentioned previously, um these reasonings are because it will be behind the principal structure. It will have adequate screening with the vegetation and fencing. Um and it will be matching the general appearance of the principal structure. [clears throat] And here's just an image of what that um garage will look like. Um and here's just also illustrates some of the vegetation that will be planted nearby. In terms of parking, um staff was provided a parking um layout plan um which showed the general access points um and the minimum number the amount of parking stalls in which they would be providing for this uh this project. Um [snorts] staff calculated the minimum number of parking stalls required not just for this specific project but also for the existing tenants on the site as well. and staff calculated that a minimum of 140 parking stalls are required. The applicant is proposing to have 404 parking stalls and that is not including uh fleet or bus parking. This is just for customer and employee parking. Um and specifically with their plan uh currently there is 229 parking stalls in their south parking lot. Um but they are proposing to add or have a total of 385 parking stalls in their south parking lot and then 19 in their north parking lot. Um and the general parking lot plan that they did provide has a a couple different features. In addition, um they have the installation of 60° parking angles and then 45 degree parking angles. Um parallel parking stalls, oneway and two-way drives as well. and all of those staff have reviewed and meets our ordinance requirements. Um, and I'd also like to mention that the access to the south parking lot is not changing. That is remaining the same. Um, and access to the north part of the property for fleet vehicles um or buses will also not be changing. they will still be able to access that by either the far east side of the property near Discount Home Furniture or by accessing um on the west side of the property near on Washburn um through those uh garage doors in the sliding gate. Um except I would like to mention that the new employee parking for those 19 new stalls will be um that will be a one-way uh drive drive-thru area. It will be a 45 degree angle. um for those uh employees to [clears throat] utilize. Um in terms of landscaping, the applicant did provide a landscaping plan um and that does meet our ordinance requirements for um the three uh meeting our three of four minimum landscaping requirements. So, they've met uh the evergreen, ornamental, and deciduous trees um but opted not to um to do the the shrub installation. Um and then much of the plan shows that much of the installation will occur on the south and west portion of the property. Um but this plan that they submitted is also subject to change just due to the highway 13 reconstruction project. Um so staff did make a condition um in the slides and also in your report that specifically calls out this and um memorializes the number of plantings and the general locations of these um of this vegetation. Uh the applicant did provide an interim landscaping plan which is um you can see through this slide here. Um the blue highlighted portion um on the south property line. So in this case would be the the west um [snorts] is indicated to be complete once the highway 13 in Washburn uh recon reconstruction project is complete um and before and during the highway 13 reconstruction project the area will be seated um so there so that that will always be regardless of that there's no plantings there it will always be seated. um planning considerations. So, the parking lot and garage installation um all meet setbacks and do not encroach in the easements. Um [clears throat] despite the additional paving for the parking lot, the overall vegetation will increase on site. Uh landscaping is subject to changes due to the highway 13 project. Uh staff recommends that the planning commission recommend to the city council the approval of the PUD amendment to pave additional parking stalls and for a cup to allow a 32 square foot freestanding sign at 310 Highway 13 West subject to the 13 conditions. Um before I go into the conditions I do want to mention that staff did make some additional changes to those conditions and I have um provided that today uh tonight with you. Um and I'll also go over that with the slides. I have marked those changes in the slide so you can visually note that as well. [snorts] Um the the parts that I have removed will be struck out um and highlighted in red and then parts that I have added are underlined. So the project shall be completed in accordance with the submitted plans and as amended by the conditions of approval. Any significant changes to the plans as determined by the planning staff shall require review and approval by the planning commission and city council. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, planning staff shall approve a final landscaping plan in writing. The allowable signed area for the monument sign cannot exceed 32 square ft. A sign and electron electrical permit are required. The minimum total [clears throat] uh green space on the site shall be no less than 9%. The building perimeter landscaping with 6ft width may no may be no less than 13% for the principal structure and no less than 28% for the future garage. The new bus garage may exceed 50% [clears throat] of metal accent materials of 24 gauge or thicker metal on the exterior wall facing Washurn Avenue. The three minimum building design and material requirements found in city code 10-23-1A I or A1 shall not apply to the future new garage edition. And then I have removed condition number eight. Um and also removed condition nine and replaced it with the applicant acknowledges the planned Minnesota Department of Transportation Highway 13 project also known as the mindot project which may require changes to the approved landscaping plans. The applicant shall incorporate any reasonable landscape plan changes for any work not already installed as needed. The revised landscaping plan shall meet the intent of the landscaping plans on sheet A1C dated November 19th, 2025. The review shall shall include establishing a completion schedule and providing the required security in accordance with the Burnsville City Code prior to the installation of any landscaping. Failure to provide revised plans and security may result in the city holding building permits for future phases of the project. All landscaping must be installed no later than one year after the highway 13 reconstruction project is complete. A letter of credit or cash security in amount not less than 100% of the total estimated landscaped value shall be submitted as directed in condition 8. Landscape financial security shall be held for the first growing season after installation. All areas of the site where practical shall be seated or solded and maintained. The property owner shall mow and maintain all sight boulevards to the curved line of the public streets. All new exterior lighting including pole and wall pack lighting must be downcast and shielded on all faces. Uh a recordable walkway uh easement over the existing D and U easement shall be provided prior to the recording of the conditional use permit. Um with that, I will turn it back to the planning commission. Thank you, Miss Chapman. All right, [clears throat] commissioners, do you have any questions for staff? >> Uh, thank you. Uh, excellent presentation. Um, one of the conditions is that the new bus garage may exceed 50% of metal accent materials. Does that mean 100%. >> Basically, okay. Yeah. >> Um, and I understand the reasoning behind it is are are we setting a a precedent that we may have to deal with later by doing this? I'm just kind of wondering out loud. >> Sure. Um, I'd like to direct this question to staff. >> Yes. Um it is very common practice currently for um for [clears throat] us to allow for the applicant to complement the existing structure if it's the principal structure. Now if they're going to build a new building on site, we would want them to meet the intent of the ordinance, but since the print this is going to be an accessory structure to the principal, we like to see them kind of complement each other. A lot of the vast majority of the structure will be behind will not be completely visible to the public. Only a section of it will be. So the idea is to complement the existing building. >> Well, thinking of it as an accessory structure that that makes a lot of sense. So thank you. >> Yeah. >> Uh two two questions. The the monument sign is that only for Schmidian Sons or will that include the other tenants on the sign as well? That's um for the entire signage and that the the sign plan that they submitted would include the the display of other tenants as well. Okay. >> So it's for as a total. >> Okay. And then I have no idea how long the highway 13 projects going to take. What how how long are we talking for the landscaping? >> Yeah. So, we staff spoke with our city engineer and he told us that it was approximately late 2027 or early 2028, but that is also contingent on funding. Um, and right now they're doing they're have preliminary plans is not solidified at this point. >> And I can add to that, Commissioner Long, too, because I was just looking for that question answer myself. Um, it looks like on Mindot's website, um, it could it would go through fall of 2030. So, we just don't know at this time why the who, what, where, and we don't want to see the applicant put in all this landscaping just to be removed. And that's why we hit the pause button, this application to bring it to this meeting here so we can work out those details with the applicant and our city engineer. >> Thank you, >> Commissioner Anderson. >> For the four phases, how long do they estimate that that will take to complete? >> When we spoke with the applicant, I believe they said 10 years. Commissioners, any additional questions before I open the public hearing. All right, I am going to open this public hearing at 6:52 p.m. Anyone who wishes to speak to this agenda topic can approach the podium and state your name and address for the record. Anyone online? Nope. >> All right. Is the applicant present in the room? Does anyone have any questions for the applicant? All right. With that, I will close the public hearing at 6:53 p.m. And I will turn it over to you, commissioners. Any discussion on this topic? Commissioner Yamilton, >> I'm looking at the frontage road and that southwest corner. Is part of the Highway 13 construction going to impose or change that frontage road and thus change what they want to do in that southwest corner. >> Um, Commissioner, I can answer that one. Kira um is there is uh right now right away um dedicated towards it. However, the trail is expected to move a little bit as part of the project. So, as a condition of approval require additional trail easement corridor, but the impacts are minor to the site. Um I believe the plan right now they're trying to figure out if they're going to do a roundabout or a signal at the intersection and that's where they're at. But they have enough right away at this time to complete the project and it should not impact the site too much, but the trail will move onto their site a little bit and that's why we're kind of hitting the pause button. >> Well, I get I guess the question is is since they're going to be doing some the applicant is going to be doing some work on that southwest corner, are they going to invest and do some of this work? Then all of a sudden the highway 13 projects comes along and they're going to impose on the work that was done. >> Yes. Um commissioner that was a question we did discuss over city engineer and at this time all the plans um that he has seen from MDOT has not incorporated has not impacted the site besides all all of it's in the right away. So that's a discussion item. It could change in the future. However, we're pretty confident that the proposed improvements will not impact the overall parking lot. If it does, it'll be the landscape buffer, but that's something we'll have to keep an eye on as we're moving forward here. Um, like we said, I think our city engineer say the plans are not finalized. They're getting close. So, we should have those here shortly. But it's his understanding that the proposed third um highway 13 improvement should not impact this site and they should be able to do the proposed um additional parking. There may be some impacts on the landscaping and that's why we requested the applicant do an intram plan for landscaping. I know Kira presented that as part of the presentation. So again, we are trying to reduce the impacts financially to the applicant as part of this process as well as they continue to improve their site. >> Commissioner Anderson, >> is the oversized parking lot mainly because of Smitty and Sun's employees? >> It was for a combination of customers and employees. If you if you go out there during the school year, you can see it is significant the amount of parking out there that was required of the bus driving and the visitors on site. So, it is uh it's kind of the plan is changing. Prior to 201, the parking lot was there, then the green space came in at the display pads. Now, we're going back. So, it's kind of a reverse. So, I I assume like the buses stay on the back side or all the fleet vehicles are on the back side. That's strictly just for parking for the employees. Right. >> Okay. Mr. Ellen, >> um if nobody has other comments, I will make a motion. Um so, and thank you to the applicant for making a long-term commitment to our city. We appreciate that. So, uh, I'm going to recommend that, uh, we recommend to the I move that we recommend to the city council approve of the planned unit development amendment to pave additional parking stalls and for a conditional use permit to allow 32 foot freestanding sign located at 3100 Highway 13 West subject to the many conditions uh, that were listed. >> All right, we have a motion. >> Second. >> Seconded. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed. And the motion carries. Our next item on our agenda is the zoning code reorganization and update being presented by our own planning manager, Mike Morosula. >> All right. One second. Good evening, chair and commissioners. Uh, we'll do the fun stuff now. Um, so as I get this open, of course, I have it open downstairs and I don't have it saved. Oh, I do. Good. All right. Crisis averted. All right. So, a little background. In 2021, the um staff kicked off initiative to update the zoning code. Um they worked with a consultant called WSB. Um there was a lot of work that was done. However, due to departmental restructuring, the project was paused in about 2022 2023. Um some code sections date back to the 1980s in there currently and there's outdated formatting and it is not very user friendly and I'll get into that here in a little bit. So, our goals is this proposed amendment. Um, originally the intent here was to do an overhaul rewrite of the zoning code. However, about halfway through the year, we kind of changed that approach because not halfway, earlier this year, we changed it because um we're coming in comprehensive plan season and when you're doing a comprehensive plan, the last thing you want to do is a zoning code rewrite because once you get done for comprehensive plan, you're going to have to redo your zoning code. So what we're proposing now is to do a rewrite and an up not a rewrite update and a reorganization to get it ready for a bigger larger project once the comprehensive plan's adopted. So the goals of this project are to improve organizational flow and consolidation enhance usability that's the primary one modern and plain language where we can do that. Obviously, there's some parts of the code that are very detailed that we're not going to be able to do that this time with, but [clears throat] hopefully on future updates, once the comprehensive plan's updated, um we can go back and do more of that clean uh clean up and plain language updates. And we're going to try to bring the code into compliance with current state laws, or I shouldn't say try, we will. Um so, the first step thing we'll step on or talk about, excuse me, is staff is proposing to reorganize the zoning code for ease of use. Right now we have 31 main chapters in the in the code. We're going to reduce that to 14 chapters um and with subsections. And one big thing we're trying to do is undo the weave. Right now there's a lot of areas in the code where it says go from one section to another section to another section to get your answer. We're going to try to do what I like to call a one-stop shop. Everything's in one section. So if I go to the residential zoning district, everything will be underneath that zoning district. There's no more. There may be some jumping to other sections, but the vast majority of the content will be under that one section. I'll show you an example of that here in a moment. Then we're also proposing delete subsections that are out of date or unnecessary. Um there's a few sections in there right now that are currently reserved for um future reason or there are some sections that just have no information in there. And then we're going to relocate sections of the zoning from the zoning code to other appropriate city code sections. There is a couple areas where um the code talks about rightaway and that should be within the rightaway section of the code, not in the zoning code. There's a couple other areas too that we're going to try to clean up as well or relocate. Then we did rewrite some sections of the code. Um so section 10-1, the introductory provisions, and section 10-2, which is administration and enforcement, or as we like to call it, compliance, those two sections um were completely rewritten by staff. um the language in there currently is outdated. And so when we do these rewrites, we typically look for other cities that has language that we like or use them as like um templates. So in this case here, we use Rosemont, Woodbury, Plymouth, and I think Maple Grove was the fourth one. We kind of use those as our kind of template to kind of morph their language into what we needed to be for the city of Burnsville. And then administration and enforcement and uh compliance. Um the administration part of it, we kind of did a we're doing a rewrite to better explain a conditional use permit, what it does, what the intent is. Um we're also talking about site plan review, what triggers a site plan review, triggers these different approvals. So we did completely rewrite those. Um they've been reviewed by our city attorney. We'll be bringing those before you um at one of the meetings in January. So then we also are updating the definitions and allowed uses to simplify and to show clarity and what's allowed in each district. Cross references will be corrected, reduced and reorganized and formatting numbering will be streamlining streamlined for easier reasonabil readability and navigation. So here's a perfect example of kind of uh current item we have. Let's say I want to do an adult daycare and my property is zone B3. The B3 zoning district allows for uses within the B1, B2, and B3. So, there's a total of over 70 uses allowed in those three districts. So, but the B3 district alone does not allow for adult daycarees. The B2 district doesn't either, but there's over 40 there. You got to go down to the B1 district where adult daycarees are permitted and then back to the B3. We're going to try we're going to try to fix that or we're going to fix that. So the proposal here is here's a perfect example on the screen. The B3 uses 79 of them listed in code. We're going to be going down to about 12 to 15. These we're going to do more broader ranging categories. So for example, instead of calling out pet store, grocery store, candy store, clothing store, retail. So that's just an example. Um pawn shops and other ones would be you know um regulated mis miscellaneous uses um auto repairs auto repair. So there's we're trying to simplify it into these key categories and then for the each of the zoning districts we're proposing to break them down like this. Uh and the example on the screen is the B3 general business district. There'll be a purpose statement which explains the purpose of the district and the intent. Then there'll be a list of the permitted uses, accessory uses, conditional uses, and then your district standards, which is your setbacks and some other items in there. Some districts will have a section um subsection F, which be performance standards specialized for that district. Some of our residential districts have some specialized performance standards in there, and some districts will have that section F in there. um not all of them but um for main vast majority of the districts will look like this. Here's our current proposal um our proposed workflow. So currently um we are in December. Let me turn my little cursor thing here on because that's what I do. Um so we're in December. Um staff's at the point now we're doing presentations the same presentation I gave to the city council back in November. So in January we'll come back before you pi we'll have pi two meetings in January where we will do um we'll provide you with the materials and we'll do um we'll go through the proposed changes and then um starting in March of next year we'll start the comprehensive plan process. Uh we'll be going out for RFP here probably in the March time frame to find a consultant and really kick off that project in the fall of 26 that'll go through um 2028. At the same time, we're going to start working on community visioning. It's another public process what'll feed into the comprehensive plan that'll kick off in June of next year. At the same time, once we get done with the zoning code, um we are proposing to do a subdivision rewrite. When we do the subdivision rewrite, we will we're not proposing to amend our ordinance. We're proposing to do a um find a similar city with an ordinance subdivision ordinance we like and repeal and replace but also fix the subdivision to fit the needs of Burnsville. But the subdivision ordinance at this time we feel it'll take longer to try to amend it. Simper process would be just to find one we like amend amend and repeat and replace and kind of make it Burnsville. Then in 2029, once the comprehensive plan is done, by state statute, cities have nine months to update their zoning code to bring into compliance with um the approved con comprehensive plan. So that's where we'll do more of that heavy lift. Um we'll probably that's when we'll do more of the deep thorough review update at that time. Um I can tell you right now that as part of the 2050 comprehensive plan, there's a typo there. I apologize. be 2050 comprehensive plan, not 2025. Um the 2050 comprehensive plan, there will be changes to zoning districts. That just this is requirements. Right now, we have our system statements that I can tell that we'll have to require modifications of our zoning districts to meet the items within our comprehensive plan. So, our next steps are on the screen. Um we did go to city council on November 10th. Today, I'm giving you kind of an overview. January 12th, we will probably we will go through um a red line and [clears throat] reorganization and then we'll talk about it again on January 26th. Hopefully on the 26th, the goal is to have the draft um definitions done by then for review and approval and final adoption by the plan commission and then city council on February 17th. That is our plan currently and I'm here for any questions. Commissioner, >> uh, uh, thank you for the presentation. Every city's zoning code is different. Isn't that right? That's been my experience. Okay. >> And I appreciate you trying to organize ours and it because it's basically a living document. It we're going to change it. We're going to and then we're going to start amending it and changing it over time and it it's something that evolves. It's a living document. Is that correct? >> That is correct. >> Yeah. So, I will be completely honest. Once we do this, adopt this amendment, we'll probably be right back in there in 27 26 to make some touch little touch-ups. >> Yeah, it's normal part of the process. >> It's just when you do these kind of updates, there's things you miss and you have to go back in there. I know the city used to do an annual like um house cleaning, I think they called it. Um, so that's something we'll probably get in the back end of the practice of doing, but also balancing that knowing that we're going to be doing a major lift here once the comprehensive plans adopted to do more of a rewrite update. This whole framework we're proposing for uh right now is to kind of set up set the stage for that rewrite. We'll have it organized the way we want it in the section. So when we get there, it's already drafted in the format we want. Then we'll get in there and get modify the text at a later date >> and we'll have a consultants that you said we're going you're going to RFP for consultants to help with the 2050 comp plan not necessarily the zoning rewrite. >> That is correct. Right now uh we have not discussed that at staff yet um what we want to do if we need a consultant at later time for the zoning code update. Um but we will be hiring a consultant to assist us with the 2050 comprehensive plan. And some cities I know are already starting that process of looking for consultants. So we want to join that party. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Hamilton. >> So you're looking at other cities, you know, south of the river is part of it to take what kind of works or kind of align with them. Yes. Um, so one thing we'll do, I know Apple Valley, I believe, recently updated their code. Bloomington's constantly updating their code. Um, so what we like to do is we kind of do a comparison of what they're doing on certain items and certain things though we are strictly Burnsville and we'll keep it like that, but we do it's best practice not to recreate the wheel. And so a lot of cities the for the format that we are proposing here is based off of PLUF's code and then Woodbury kind of implemented it and a couple other communities as well. This one-stop shop kind of approach. Um some staff likes tables. Previous staff like tables. I'm not a fan of tables. I rather go to the zoning district here it is not have to go through a table of all these different categories in there. And everyone's different in that approach. And so that's I think [clears throat] a cleaner approach is to have everything listed off there and then simplify it. This is my third one zoning code rewrite. So there always some they're always um interesting typical process like do you consult with the other cities or is it just to grab their documentation and see what fits best with with us? >> That's correct commissioner. Um, generally what we'll do is, um, we'll look at their code and if we have questions, we'll contact them. But generally it's a lot of how right now what we're doing since we're not doing a rewrite is organizational. >> Um, when you get to that more of that rewrite, you kind of find cities that um, when I did this in Cottage Grove, we found a municipality that we liked and we kind of used a lot of their language then more modified it to address our needs. So, it's a lot of it's um, a lot of it's uh, like I said, not recreating the wheel. How do you compare it back against like state codes and things that have changed like to make sure you don't miss something like how do you set up that process? >> That's our friendly attorneys. [laughter] Um we work very closely with them on that to make sure. Right now I can tell you that I'm pretty we got to take a closer look at our variance language and conditional use. I have a feeling that right now in compliance with state statute. So that's where our attorney would come in to make sure that we're meeting all the initial necessary state statutes. Uh at the same time though um it falls on staff. We got to look closely at it and that's why we usually do sections by section. So we'll start off the residential then we'll get the commercial. But once you do a couple of them we kind of you know kind it for us though in the city of Burnsville we do have some unique um uses in the community. We have flood plane. We have other uses that um we have to be more diligent with. So, we'll work closely with our legal counsel on those and a lot of times we'll have them draft the language. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. After those updates, it's update time. Our next planning commission meeting is on December 22nd, 2025. >> I think it's safe to say that we will not be meeting on that one. Originally, we thought we were, but we will be meeting next in J in 2026. Um, we did have a couple items that might have been ready, but we're going to hit the they need a little little more time. Um before that, um at the last city council meeting on November 25th, the council approved the big hit item by a 3-2 vote. They also approved the writer Walton application for a multifamily um apartment building on Old County Road 34 Place. And they also approved, well, I'll show my beginning here. There's three of them. the P or the ADU. >> Oh, the ADU variance. So, um now on next week's agenda, we have three items on that one. We have the front front deck um variance on 26th Avenue. We also have the rainbow tree care intram use permit and the amended PUB final plat pimary plat for >> Keonte >> Kante Grill. Sorry. So, we'll have those three items on the next uh city council agenda. I wasn't prepared for that one. [laughter] >> All right, cool. Any updates from commissioners? Sorry, I should have asked. All right. If nothing else, then can I get a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion to adjurnn. >> I got a second. >> Second. >> All right. All those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. And that's a wrap.