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School District 191 Policy Committee - May 20, 2025

Burnsville-Eagan-Savage School DistrictWednesday, May 21, 2025
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devices and we have such varying settings that um or varying um circumstances that occur in our settings. So, I did um contact our legal team there and they gave us some suggested wording around uh especially around how best to to move forward. So, I'll just read it. The school district strongly discourages and disfavors using a device to record or photograph someone without their permission. And then our um our legal team suggested just instead naming specifically where we think it should be prohibited rather than encompassing all spaces like sporting events. So bathrooms, school buses or during instructional time. Um, another suggested um, discussion on our last check-in on this policy was um, section 7 language around responses to violations. So, um, that's those leveled pe uh, pieces really trying to find a way to be clear and directive while also acknowledging that um, our administrative capabilities can kind of vary over time. And then um making sure that we are tying it as connect closely to our student handbook language and capabilities as well. So just bring some other language for consideration on how best to do all those pieces. um trying to give our administrators enough flexibility to respond according to to the different circumstances while also giving them the clarity they need to be consistent as possible. And then finally, um, section 8B that the committee brought up the fact that we had called out school buildings and if that's really helpful or confusing agreed upon review that that's potentially confusing. So, we just struck that from the that section. Um, couple other pieces were just to continue to make a note cuz we're we're continuing to kind of spin two plates here with 524 and then 634. So, just to keep them paced out and then um make sure they're they're referenced with each other um when it goes to first reading. Um few other couple typos. So, walking through those pieces and happy to be on this journey with you all. So, thanks Awesome. Thank you, Dr. Belmont. Committee members, any comments or questions? The one thing I thought of as you were walking through it just now is under the respon section seven, the response to violations, level one, level two, level three, is that basically first offense, second offense, third offense? Typically, um, will there be times where it wouldn't be? I thought it was more the Australian book the different levels. Just wondering if it'd be clear if it is first offense, second offense, third offense. Maybe somebody maybe something could happen where they could go immediately to level three, I guess. But yeah, Director Hume, that's a good point. So, in our student handbook, we have different levels and based on the level and the infraction, we have what could be a response, but then also you can interpret it that it's a first offense, a second offense. Well, that's what I'm wondering. If you bring your phone and do it three times, is that level one, level two, level three? Each of the, you know, first, second, third? I don't know. That's why I'm curious. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I the model I'm not sure what the varying levels of severity is. If you're using your phone, you're using your phone. It's a little different than Yeah. other types of behavioral issues. I think the level it's if they don't adhere to the teacher's instruction, then it goes to the level two. It rises to a level two infraction similar to our student handbook. So it's possible they could have level one and level two in the same day basically if they Yeah. And I think the question for the practitioners both teachers and administrators is how for the policy to be I think the the circumstance that I I don't have clarity on is if like let's say you go into a level one intervention space with a teacher um in October and then it comes again December is it so I'd have to so we don't have a lot of progressive like um sequencing in our handbook. But in practicality, it does happen. Um, you know, we tried this, it didn't work. And so I just how best to leave it to the teacher's discretion with that scenario. I just You're right. If it's 6 months apart, does that mean the second offense 6 months later? Is that automatically? And if they comply, if they put it away, then it doesn't rise to a level two, which is similar to how our seriousness of the infraction is what I mean. I'm kind of thinking of, you know, sorry, having a student in the high school and, you know, let's say the teacher, you know, sees that the cell phone is out and, you know, says, "Put that away." Okay. And, you know, let's say my student doesn't, you know, okay, then that, you know, she notices. All right. in that same day, in that same class period, you have time to take it. I'm taking it until the end of class. I mean, you know, that kind of is that level twoish that an additional intervention like I'm going I'm going to be now in charge of your cell phone for the day, you know, for the rest of the class. Or, you know, I'm thinking, well, okay, what if she continually puts it away when she's caught, but it's happening, you know, she's got it out 3 days out of the week. Sure, she puts it away, but she's still, you know, these different scenarios that how Yeah. where when does it go to that level two, level three in in those? I think the consequences as they're outlined are fine. Okay. But yeah, I'm still very fuzzy on definition of what is a level two and when does it move to a level or level one and when does it move to level two and that sort of thing. Okay. and wanting to make sure that it's enforced consistently for all students also. Yeah. And if different teachers have different different staff members have different interpretations, then Mhm. it's harder to enforce it consistently, I think. And we want to have we want to have it defined clearly enough that there can be consistency, right, with flexibility, which of course is Yeah. Do you have any suggestions for that section to make it clearer? Yeah. Or I could also go back to our administrators who've been working with their BLT and just I haven't asked I don't think we've really vetted out that specific question or if um you know so there's policy if there are regulations that you have that provide additional detail. I don't know how specific we want to get in policy versus leaning on regulations. That might be another alternative. Mhm. But for you for you to and that's fine also. I just think at some point it would need to be more fully fleshed out whether regulation or gets to see what happens when the policy is implemented. They may have some additional changes. So it might come back in October. Exactly. Very possible. Okay. Feels like this is one of those that's always going to be a bit of a work in progress. I think so. Any other questions? Um the one just a a comment or or just something as far as the um in uh section 5, you know, A3 with the um strongly discourages disposer recording somebody else, you know, without permission and and things. Um, I mean, I do like a piece of the wording that had been there as far as the, um, consent of the subjects of the recording, you know, that if you're, you know, if you're just kind of taking a picture and there's some people in the background, I mean, who, who cares, you know, you're taking a selfie and, you know, there's there's people in the background. they're not the subject of it, but of of the picture or the video or something that that you might be doing. But if you're recording someone to eventually try to embarrass them and they're the subject of the video or of the picture or something, you know, that's where I'm thinking, you know, something about the permission of the subject, you know, or the awareness, consent, you know, you know, awareness or consent of of the subject could be really important. you know, just thinking of bullying and just what happens in schools and I agree and at the same time I also think about instances where there might be a fight or some sort of altercation where there wouldn't be permission given but there might be a reason why that might be recorded. Right. Yes. Completely agree with your point about bullying because Yeah. Right. Is there anything in the bullying policy already that would cover that though? harm somebody if they use it to harm someone. Yeah. Yeah. If that's kind of covered there that Yep. Yep. Yeah. And that we do have that cross reference for the bullying. Y [Music] maybe look at the bullying policy and see if there's some if if what we have there is adequate to address your concern, right, Rachel? And if not then we come back. But yeah, definitely sometimes the documentation if it goes to the first meeting you could add that information too. Okay. Yeah. Cuz I know we want to bring this forward. Any other questions or comments? My only comment was just a thought in that same section um 5 A3. Uh, would we want to include locker rooms? I think so. Probably. That's one of those places. Bathrooms, locker rooms, buses, and during instructional time. Mhm. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. All right, let me get back. It does look like we definitely, I think, want to add a cross reference to 514. Mhm. It does say an act of bullying by the individual group prohibited blah blah blah by use of electronic technology and communications. Perfect. So, and it addresses both on and off school. Okay. Yeah, it is. We have 514 in the cross work. Is that already there? Okay. Mhm. Mhm. Of course it is. So, are we comfortable with this coming forward for first reading? Do we want it to come back? I'm comfortable. Like I said, I think if we can at some point get a regulation or something to clarify the the levels, I'm comfortable with it as as as. Okay. So, first reading knowing that regulations will come forward to clarify. Okay. Thank you. Uh next we have uh policies with changes. Uh policy 206, public participation in schoolboard meetings, complaints about persons at schoolboard meetings and data privacy considerations. Um I am bringing this forward um in consultation with Dr. Battle. I'm bringing forward a recommendation to update the listening session registration card to include city of residents. Uh the goal that was already on there was my first Yeah. Um the goal the goal is really to ensure that listening session participants have a relationship with the 191 community while at the same time mitigating concerns speakers might have on sharing their full address. Um additionally acknowledging u knowing that sometimes our broader community shows up to share their perspectives sometimes in large numbers. Uh we would hope that adding the city of residence to the registration card would ease the involvement of staff in vetting speakers. So open it up for discussion. I think it's fine. I would add city and state just in case there's somebody from Wisconsin who's a district employee like they live in Hudson or something. Good point. Yep. That's my only actual suggestion though. But otherwise I think it like I started to say I actually thought we had already done that. So yeah, city add in and state that good. Okay. State. So that will be first reading. Okay. Uh next we have policy 707 transportation of public school students with Dr. Battle. Thank you directors. Um this uh request is tied to my fisc year 26 budget development. If you recall as part of my uh budget um decrease members since we are um still again not having uh the funds that meet inflation from our state budget and projected uh small um reduction in enrollment. Um so my initial thought was to add this um the change the distance for students to receive transportation only secondary students that would align more with state law which is 2 miles. Um and so if you look at section 4 eligibility um the sentence would be revised to say uh upon request of a parent or guardian the district shall provide transportation to and from school at the expense of the school district for all resident secondary students who reside uh 2 miles or more from the school. a little more context. Um the savings uh would be about $136,000. Um but we I needed to really look at who would be impacted. And so if you look at section 4B, it says the school district may discretion also provide transportation to any student to and from school at the expense of the school district for any other purpose deemed appropriate by the school board. Um the board has weighed in um that we should consider tra uh hazardous roadways. And so in our transportation guidelines, we have identified the hazard transportation um streets and highways and they include Interstate 3513, uh Nicholls Road, uh Lynn Avenue between 13 and McCall Drive. And so when we looked at the data of who would be impacted of the change from for secondary for one and a half to two miles we identified 301 students but when we removed the um we applied the hazardous uh provision we have 102 students who will be impacted. So if they uh currently as a rider with a hazard uh that will not change and so um that goes into effect too. And so with that I give you this policy revision for your consideration and discussion questions comments. So maybe this is a chicken and the egg type of question, but we haven't actually approved the change yet. Does it need to be updated in policy before it comes to the board for approval or hence the chicken and the egg? Which comes first, the budget? Policy review committee chairperson and I we have planning meetings and our question and we landed on it should come here first. So ch director al did you want to share? Yeah and the thinking is that it goes in parallel and would not be approved by the would not come forward for for formal action until the second meeting in June. Okay. When the budget would be approved first. So if that recommendation ended up changing when the budget is approved then that this change would not this change would only come forward if the budget as it is currently outlined gets approved. Correct. Okay then I have no further questions. That's a good one though. Any other questions or comments? N okay. Um so this policy is uh first reading as well. Thank you. Thank you Dr. Battle. Uh next uh policy 902R fee schedule with Jason Sers, director of community education and Kyle Henrikson, facilities coordinator. Welcome both. Hello directors. Um, I'm here tonight with my facilities coordinator, Kyle Henrikson, uh, to pro advocate for the proposed changes to regulation 902R and the attached fee schedule. Uh, just as background, Kyle annually assesses and evaluates all rates and fees. He meets quarterly with all Southern Metro facilities coordinators in a larger group because school districts like to keep sort of some consistency amongst them so that we all maintain our competitive advantages. Um, we are advocating for a minor adjustment to regulation 902R to allow for the inclusion of nonprofit groups and non-residents located outside of our school district boundaries. Uh, currently uh we do not have that provision in our fee and rate schedule. We believe that these proposed changes will provide more equitable access and increase accessible rental opportunities for both in district groups and external groups. uh thereby hopefully increasing our competitive uh market share uh and resulting in more facility rentals. And with that uh if you have any questions, we're happy to take them. Awesome. Questions or comments? So, under the secondary schools, I'm noticing. So, is the gym $75 now for a class C and 150 for a class D? And we're talking about reducing it Is that from $75 down to $22 it looks like? Cor correct. Yeah. Our class C users are our adult nonprofits within our school district. Okay. Um trying to get them more access to our buildings by reducing that cost. So for example, there was a in district sort of men's uh basketball club. Okay. It's one of the only ones and you know $75 a time was a a bit rich for them. Um and some of them were even our own staff and so we don't have a lot of those but we think that we would maybe have more especially for in district folks and residents that would maybe want to use our facilities in that manner. Right. So you're kind of thinking about quantity there. Yes. Right. Yeah. Because we just simply don't get very many if any rentals from them anymore because of the fee structure. Sure. and we have sufficient, I guess, space. And I don't know when the men's basketball season is, but they wouldn't conflict with like BAC basketball cuz I know there's always when my kids were playing basketball, always issues with getting the gyms on at 9:30 on a Tuesday night or something. No, no, they would not conflict with BAC. BAC would be scheduled first and then they would come after that BAC schedule has been finalized. Okay. that league played at some really off hours, I'm sure. Yeah. So, do you have any questions? No, that kind of answered my question because I was going to be, you know, talking about, hey, is this, you know, quantity as far as with the pricing and the decreases and sounds like we're not getting enough of those and the really expensive ones like cutting the price will actually generate more revenue likely for the district. Yeah. Specifically for those groups. Yes. Right. Right. Yeah. So my question is anecdotally um and this could be really dated since my kids are now out of the schools but um it seem it seems like our facilities are are actively used and in in in great volume. Um are we concerned about access and wear and tear? I understand there's part with the fields you've addressed, you know, the questions about the wear and tear on the fields and I think that's awesome. Um, but by by reducing fees, are we going to have some sort of negative impact in terms of um in school groups that might want to access facilities and they're already booked? Go ahead. I I know how I would answer that, but look what Kyle deals with this every single day. I don't believe it would. I think it's going to increase access for those groups. Majority of the groups that are using our space now are in district nonprofits. So, we wouldn't be losing any revenue. Uh it's similar. We'd be gaining more quantity outside of our district outside of the times that our in school correct nonprofits might be using it. Yep. I think it'd be more beneficial uh and we'd be able to use more funds to help with those costs. Awesome. Any other questions? No. Okay. So, this will be first reading as well. Thank you both. Thank you. Uh, next policy. Okay. So, moving to policies with no changes. Policy 902, use of school district facilities and equipment. Uh, with Jason Sers. No changes though. There are no changes. We propose no changes to that. Any questions? Aren't the fees at the bottom of this page? Oh, wait a minute. Page 12. We should have Oh, we can't add this to nonprofits till after they pass the other one. Okay. Changes after you pass this one, it'll come back to add the nonprofit groups. That's why you got no changes today, but no changes to data. Chicken and egg. Okay. Our new saying for the night. Okay. Annual review, but then you'll see it again. Yes. So, this will be on consent. Thank you, Jason. Okay. Uh, next we have policy. Clarify that when it comes even on consent, but Yeah. Yes, it'll be coming back the same night. Yep. Yeah, it may come back if we want to add some language about. Well, the actual prices were on that regulation. Yeah. So, once those change, we'll have to update it for that. Okay. Uh so, next we have policy 602.5 uh school cancellations with Dr. Belmont. [Applause] Thank you, Chair Alt. Um the uh 602.5 is a is associated with our school calendar policy and um up for it looks like u a three-year cycle for review. We just ran through our processes and procedures and they all seem to be flowing pretty well and then supported well by this policy. So no changes to recommend at this time. Great. Any questions? All right. Uh, this will be on consent. Thank you. Uh, next we have policy 518, do not attempt resuscitation orders with Amy Petrski. Welcome, Amy. Oh, thank you. Good evening. Um, I'm here to talk about um policy 518, do not um attempt to resuscitate orders. I have reviewed it um talked over with my nursing and also compared it to the MASPA and there's no changes recommended. Okay. Questions or comments? All right. This will be on consent. Thank you. Uh staying with Amy, we have policy 799, animals in the schools. All right. I think that in 2022 we made some pretty extensive changes to this policy. So I've again compared it to MASBA and there's no additional changes for this one. Okay, comments. This will be on consent as well. And let's see, Amy's last policy, policy 427, workload limits for certain special education teachers. All right. Um once again, this has been reviewed um and looked over. Um everything looks to be how it needs to be right now. And so again, I recommend that there are no changes to this policy. Comments or questions? Nope. Nope. All right. On consent. Thank you. Thank you. Uh last policy for the evening. Uh policy 523, policies incorporated by reference with Dr. Battle. Okay. Uh, this policy is up for annual review and I do not have any changes um for 523. Okay. Thank you. Comments. Nope. Nope. All right. This last one is on consent. Thank you. And Sarah, do you have everything that you need? Just to clarify, um, they'll all be for the readings will be for the June 12th meeting. And then there was talk at the 707 I wanted to clarify. Does that need to go to the 26th or was the thought that the second reading wouldn't go through until the 26th? Was that the the busing one? Yeah, I think the the first can be the the f the the it can be the first reading can be the first meeting of June and the second and second would be six would be the second meeting unless we want to just take action all in one night which is possible right that's Wow isn't that big a change to the it's been discussed pretty I mean pretty publicly Yes. Yep. Um I mean hopefully you know within the meeting and the discussion and what's happening here and there that that could help too. And we have the pres the presentation of the budget the first on the 12th which which would pull out any questions that people have about transportation. Yeah. Yeah. So all all in one on the second meeting. I'd rather do it on the second meeting. Okay. Yep. All right. Thank you for asking. All in one on consent. First and final on on consent. Cuz that's the only change. So if we approve it in the budget, right? Yeah. Right. All set, Sarah. Yep. All right. Great. Thank you. Uh we're adjourned. Thank you, Sarah. Exactly 6:15. She told me at the reception she didn't be