Welcome to the Lakeville Area Schools regular school board meeting this March 24th, 2026 start time at 6:00 p.m. If we could all rise for the Pledge of Allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, and we'll start with the roll call to my right. Tony Rickenbocker Matt Swanson Carly Anderson Amber Cameron Michael Baumann Kim Baker Brian Thompson And then can we go over here to the left side cabinet members? Brenda Albright, administrative services Michelle Humphrey, executive director of student services Tracy Goold, executive director of teaching and learning And then to my right. Tim Elgren, assistant superintendent of schools Chris Olson, director of communications Tammy Giorgi, director of teaching and learning K-12 Great, thanks everyone. Uh with that, um I will turn it over to Superintendent Baumann for good news. All right, thank you, Madam Chair, and uh sit back. This is a long list of stuff. Uh hopefully you'll enjoy it as much as I enjoy sharing. Um gymnasts from the Lakeville North and Lakeville South gymnastics teams delivered strong performances at the 2026 Class AA State Gymnastics Meet. Three gymnasts qualified for the all-around competition showcasing their consistency across vault, uneven bars, balance beam, and floor exercise. Piper Keith, grade 11, Lakeville South placed sixth. Anna Rupert, uh grade eight, uh Lakeville North High School earned ninth. And Julia Olson, a sophomore at Lakeville South, finished 15th. So, we want to congratulate all our gymnasts who competed at state. >> [applause] >> Also want to offer congratulations to Terry Homan, retired Lakeville North High School gymnastics head coach, on her induction into the Girls Gymnastics Coaches Association Hall of Fame. Homan led Lakeville North as head coach from 2011 to 2022, guiding the team to 13 conference championships, 19 section championships, and 11 state championships. An absolute remarkable leg-legacy that reflects her dedication, her skill, and her passion for the sport. Congratulations, Terry. >> [applause] >> Also congratulations to the student athletes from Lakeville North and Lakeville South wrestling. These wrestling teams competing at the 2026 Class AAA Wrestling State Tournament quarterfinals included Riley Farrar, a senior at Lakeville North, and Tyler Ruff, a junior at Lakeville North, uh represented Panthers and Cougars uh outstanding performances. Thank you and congratulations. >> [applause] >> Uh 12 student athletes from the Lakeville North and Lakeville South boys swim and dive teams competed at the 2026 Class AA boys swimming and diving meet February 26th through the 28th and want to offer our congratulations for their competitiveness as Cougars and Panthers representing Lakeville. Congratulations to those athletes. >> [applause] >> I'll offer congratulations to Blazing Cats Adapted Floor Hockey team on a strong season and their performance at the 2026 Adapted Floor Hockey CI State Tournament on February 28th at Bloomington Jefferson High School. The Cats narrowly missed a spot in the championship game in a close 4-5 semi-final against Mankato and ultimately finished fourth after facing New Prague. The Blazing Cats include student athletes from Lakeville, Farmington, and Burnsville. Congratulations to our Blazing Cat Cats Adapted Floor Hockey team. Good season. >> [applause] >> Also congratulations to the Lakeville boys curling team on their success at the 2026 Minnesota State High School Curling Championships on February 21st through March 1st. That was up at the Bemidji Curling Club. The team took home first place in the Section 4 Tournament. Congratulations to that curling team. >> [applause] >> Also congratulations to the Kenwood Trail Middle, Lakeville North, and Lakeville South High School Science Olympiad teams for competing at the state tournament on February 28th at Bethel University. Kenwood Trail placed fifth in the middle school division while Lakeville North placed 11th and South placed 18th in the high school division. Kenwood Trail highlights included Kenmer Bisik, uh grade seven, and Lincoln Elsmore, uh also grade seven, first place in helicopter. Abby Mislin and Betty Hellier, uh second place in dynamic planet. And Declan Enzelment and Benjamin Szabo, third place rocks and minerals. And then Lakeville North highlights Olivia Morrissey and Jovial Jen, first place forensics. And Yu Shen Chen and Jacob Stoner, second place boom lever. So, congratulations to all of our Olympiad Science Olympiads. >> [applause] >> Congratulations Lakeville South High School boys hockey team on a successful season and advancing to the 2026 Class AA State boys hockey tournament. The Cougars competed in the quarterfinals round against the Moorhead Spuds on March 5th at Grand Casino Arena with a score of 1 to 4. So, congratulations to that team. >> [applause] >> Tough getting into a hockey tournament at the state level. Good job, gents. Congratulations to Lakeville South High School Mock Trial the Mock Trial team on their success at the Trial State Tournament held March 5th and 6th competing against top teams from across the state. The Lakeville South varsity team finished seventh in the state. Individual highlights include 11th grader Cameron Odin being named all-state best witness and senior Annika Fonzamouth earning all-state best attorney. So, congratulations to our Lakeville South High High School Mock Trial team. >> [applause] >> Students from the Lakeville North and Lakeville South DECA teams earned top honors at state level with 13 qualifying to compete at the 2026 International Career Development Conference this April in Atlanta, Georgia. The event brings together thousands of top DECA students from around the world to compete in marketing, finance, hospitality, and management events. To learn more and see the list of qualifiers, visit isd194.org/news. So, go Lakeville DECA students. >> [applause] >> In early March, DIS gets Jocelyn Maine, assistant director of technology, and Maureen Kerrigan, systems admin two, were presented with an award of excellence for the district's outstanding implementation of ClassLink at the annual ClassLink conference in Atlanta, Georgia. The award honors a school district that achieved consistent high daily usage of ClassLink in its first school year. Thank you to uh Ms. Maine and Kerrigan and to uh the additional DIS get team members Matt Danley, Garrett Newthak, McEwen Redefeld, and Zach Shumway for their implementation of ClassLink and to all staff for consistently using their ClassLink launchpad. Thank you and congratulations. >> [applause] >> Lakeville Area Schools has been awarded the Certificate of Excellence in Financial Reporting by the Association of School Business Officials International for the 10th consecutive year. And this certificate is a significant achievement reflecting the district's commitment to high-quality financial reporting and transparency. The district earned the Certificate of Excellence for its exemplary annual comprehensive financial report for the fiscal year ending June 30th, 2025. So, congratulations to our finance team for earning that award. >> [applause] >> And then um to our paraprofessionals. This is paraprofessional appreciation week April 6th through 10th coming up. Here in Lakeville Area Schools, we're very proud to recognize the dedicated paraprofessionals who support our students and our staff each and every day through their patience, their care, and commitment. They provide essential support in classrooms and beyond helping create inclusive, supportive learning environments, and playing a vital role in preparing every student for academic, social, and civic, personal success. Thank you a million times over to all of our paras. >> [applause] >> Okay, we're going to switch gears a little bit. That's that's all the the good news, but I have some even better news because I have a student here this evening to speak to us. So, I'm pleased to have um Hang on. I want to make sure I don't mispronounce names here. Um Jen Basey who I've known for a long time. Thank you, Jen. You're here again. We appreciate you. Communications teacher and the head coach of our speech team at Lakeville North High School. Jen is here with members of the team and will include and share more about their recent work. So, Jen, the stage is yours. Uh I'm here with one of my captains, Kaylyn Wynn, and I'll let her introduce herself in just a second. Um I've been involved as a coach with the team for an embarrassingly [snorts] long time, um 30 years, and been the head coach since the mid-2000s. And it's a team I'm extremely proud of and so happy to be involved with. It's a team of 65 kids. They're it's audition only. I wish we had the capacity and the resources to take on more to do this activity um if we could. Uh but already as it is, we have 17 coaches that are involved with the team. Um and we have a parent booster board that is uh an official 501c3 that raises um somewhere between 20 and 30,000 dollars a year for us to help augment what we get from the district. Um I'm extremely proud of their accomplishments. They've been ranked in the top 20 in the nation for almost 15 years, uh consistently ranked in the top five in the state. And so, we're really proud of that. There's two really really big culminating national tournaments, one in the middle of May and one in the middle of June. Um we've qualified 12 kids and counting to the one in June and 25 and counting to the one in May. So, we're really proud of those accomplishments. Um but I think even more so than the competitive success of these kids, uh it's really a privilege to be involved with kids who are so intellectually curious and creative and kind and hardworking. Um and if you could spare me just a moment to read a couple of unsolicited comments that I got um about students on our team. I had a competitor from another team stop me one time this season after a round of competition. And he said, um "Can I just stop you? I just need to tell you that the students on your team are the kindest and classiest that I know." And they said, "I'm scared of them because they're fierce competitors, but they said, 'I always know that if I enter the room and there's a Lakeville North competitor that I have a friend in the room.'" Which we told our team is exactly where we want them to be. And I had a head coach reach out to us after the national qualifier from another team and wrote to us, "Congratulations, friends. 12 qualifiers is incredible. It was the most of any team there." Um and they said, "I judged a couple in semis and finals yesterday, and they were magnificent performers, but I wanted to tell you that they were absolutely the kindest and most attentive audience members to their fellow contestants. Clearly great speakers and great people. After such long days, this judge certainly noticed it." So, I'm really just proud of the people that they are. And with that, I'll turn it over to Kaylyn. Hi, my name is Kaylyn Wynn, and I'm one of the captains on the Lakeville North speech team. And unfortunately, our two other captains, Mary Leo and Clara Litherland, were unable to attend today. But um the first thing I wanted to do was introduce our word play, which is going to be our showcase that we have every single year, and it's going to be this Thursday night from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. Um but this year, we're doing a slightly different format. So, if you were there for previous years, it's not going to be the same. But we have an act one, which is at 6:00 p.m., and it's going to be in different classrooms. And in each classroom, there's going to be about four to five speakers. And we're going to hear a variety of different performances cuz there's about, I think, 15 different categories in speech. And at 7:00 p.m., we have act two, which will have five featured speakers. Well, five performances, but six featured speakers technically. There's going to be C Fan Barento. She's performing a poi. There's going to be um Mary Leo and Clara Litherland. They're my other two captains, and they're going to do their duo. There's going to be an informative speech done by Harper Jensen. And there's also going to be a humor done by Maisie Moe and my oratory, which is what I'm going to be doing today, well, a two-minute snippet for you guys. And it's essentially a category where I just give a um it's like a persuasive speech. It's basically what you think of when you think of speech. I'm trying to persuade you of something, and I can't tell you what my topic is cuz I'll introduce it when I do it. So, here we go. >> [laughter] >> There's only one thing that I've ever wanted, a new brother, because mine's been infected with chronic iPad Kid Syndrome and literally idolizes anyone or anything he sees on TikTok. When he isn't crashing out over Roblox, he's cracked at rage-baiting me 24/7, caught in 4K yapping about sex seven. >> [laughter] >> Or he's glazing the one and only 24-karat gold Labubu. >> [laughter] >> If you don't understand anything I just said, or you asked yourself, "Okay, but what the hell's a Labubu?" Congratulations, you touch grass. >> [gasps] >> But as much as my little brother drives me to the brink of insanity, he's a 12-year-old whose idolization, as ridiculous as it is, doesn't hurt anyone and is honestly pretty normal for a kid his age. But today, unlike him, our idolization is no longer harmless. As author Kurt Warner states in his 2025 book False Idols, "Idolization was historically the worship of a god. But in society today, this worship has found many other outlets, and idolization is being redefined. Things that once motivated, inspired, or simply brought us joy now completely consume us to the point of full-blown delusional devotion." And this leads to one of the most serious harms. What we idolize becomes synonymous with us. They replace the foundation of our identity, purpose, or connections, leading to what Dr. Philip Cushman characterizes as a nation of empty people desperately trying to fulfill ourselves through idolization. This is especially true for young boys like my brother, who are becoming even more vulnerable to influencers like Andrew Tate, known for his misogynistic views on masculinity and multiple investigations for sex trafficking. As Dr. Marcus Peter notes in his 2025 commentary podcast, "This desperate hunger for identity, meaning, and purpose leads young boys to idols like Tate." And as journalist Lindsey Dodgson reported in 2023, "Boys as young as 11 now idolize and praise him as their god." >> [applause] >> Thank you for that. We appreciate it. And the Is it elocution and the articulation are are great. So, good luck with what's next for you. And Madam Chair, that concludes my good news. Thanks, Superintendent Boman. And yeah, thank you so much, Kaylyn, for that. Do we if we come to Thursday, will we hear the the rest of the all all performance? All right. Awesome. I feel like it's hard to move on from that. I'm thinking deeply already about that two minutes. So, thanks for being here tonight. And thank you, Coach, also for all you do for our students. Um all right, with that, um oh, board communication. Uh so, I just have one thing to share, which hopefully um many here already know about. Uh but on May 12th, uh we will be supporting or we'll be going um to to vote for the growing together referendum. Uh this referendum supports middle school space needs as our student enrollment continues to increase in our district. Uh early voting starts this Friday, March 27th, right here at the school district office. Or you're welcome to use mail-in voting as well. And then, um if you want to vote the day of, there are precinct information on the the school district's website, which is again May 12th. If you want to learn more, there's lots of ways to do that. On the website, there's many FAQs, uh detailed information, uh a podcast, different videos have been made explaining kind of the space needs that we have at the middle school to accommodate um the increase in students. And then, there will also be um another community meeting on Tuesday, April 14th at 5:00 p.m. for the community to come here. I believe it's here. Yep, thank you. In this room to learn more and ask questions about the referendum. So, please engage, ask questions, and get informed before casting your vote. With that, I would like to move to approval of the agenda. Is there a motion to approve? So moved. A second? Second. All right, first by Baker, second by Anderson. Any discussion? Okay, hearing none, all in favor? I. Any opposed? All right, motion passes 6-0. We'll move to public comment now. I'll just read the statement about how public comment works in case people are unfamiliar. So, the board will open up the floor for 30 minutes at each meeting to allow the public to address the board with comments and concerns. To participate in public comment, individuals must have registered in advance using the form provided on the website by noon on the Monday before the scheduled public comment session. There will be no board response during the session. Public comments framed as complaints and or concerns about students and or staff are not appropriate in a public forum due to data privacy laws. These comments should be addressed to the administration outside of a public meeting. Likewise, complaints about school board members should be privately directed to the board chair and or superintendent. No formal action will be taken on a topic presented during public comment. As necessary, the administration will follow up with the appropriate personnel on any concerns that need to be individually addressed. Also, if necessary, the board will follow up during board communications at the next regularly scheduled board meeting. Individual remarks are limited to 3 minutes. The board will provide a signal when the participant has 30 seconds remaining of their time. Please try to keep audience noise to a minimum to allow everyone the opportunity to speak uninterrupted. And with that, I believe we have four speakers tonight, so everyone should have a turn. And I will draw them. The first speaker is Mike Sherrells. Did I pronounce that correctly? All right. >> [clears throat] >> Hello. I guess I didn't I didn't anticipate being the first speaker, but it's all right. I'll start it off. All right. Hello, my name is Mike Sherrells. I live here in Lakeville with my wife, Emily, and our four children, three of which are fortunate enough to be members of the Lakeville South basketball program, girls basketball program. My eldest daughter is actually she's probably home home right now, but she had knee surgery earlier this afternoon. As to why I'm not there, when I discussed my options with her yesterday, she said, "Dad, you have to go and speak." So, here I am. I will return home and care for her a little bit little bit later. But, she injured her knee playing basketball a couple couple weeks ago. Playing in the last basketball tournament of the year. And I would like to note that one of the first people to reach out wasn't there. The first people to reach out were uh Coach Blake Nichols and his girlfriend, Maddie. They were among the first people to reach out and they have followed up probably every three or four days ever since. And it is important that people know that that's the type of people that they are. Um They've continuously called, checked in on her since. They've checked in on her today to make sure that the surgery was gone has gone well. I would imagine that many people here in the audience today, as well as people up and down the program, would have similar stories of the attention paid from Coach Blake Nichols. My previous profession was that of a Big Ten football coach. I coached the University of Minnesota for roughly a decade. My job at that time was to go around the country, around Minnesota, around the country, and find the best best football players I could. Um That brought me into roughly 200 high schools a year recruiting, measuring coaches, measuring players, talking about programs. One thing that comes about when you have that as your profession is that you're able to and you need to becomes necessary to like evaluate the program that these athletes come to. Everybody that I was recruiting was a good athlete. I knew that they could play, but the intangibles become something that sets a student athlete apart, sets a student apart. So, I I feel like I developed a good process for figuring out the type of program that kids were coming from. And one thing that I found across my years of coaching is that the number one predictor of success, as far as I saw it, wasn't talent or anything like that. It's the program that the family also, but the program, the high school program that these players are coming from. Often times, you you see all sorts of different coaches. Um They do a great job, poor job, but they don't communicate. And one thing that Blake Nichols has done is he started from the very bottom. I have third grade twins. I have a seventh grade daughter. They're years away from becoming basketball players. None of them will be Division One players. But, Coach Nichols knows their names. He knows their interests. He follows up and he follows through with those players and he cares about all the players up and down uh up and down. He has started to build that type of program here. And um Thank you. I implore the board to table uh the district requested resignation. Thank you. All right, next speaker is Beth Beckwith. I'm you got it. All right. I have my timer, too, so I can watch. Okay, we'll get it started. >> [laughter] >> I try to be. Okay, my name is Beth Beckwith and I should start with good evening, Madam Chair, Superintendent Baumann, and the school board members. My name is Beth Beckwith. I currently serve as a media specialist at Kenwood Trail Middle School and Christina Huddleston Elementary. I'm here to tonight to talk about facility plans, believe it or not, for our district. And I want to start by saying publicly that yes, we absolutely have a legitimate need to increase instructional space at the middle level now. I've been in the district long enough, 36 years, to remember when Kenwood Trail Middle School was Kenwood Trail Junior High. And I believe our highest enrollment was well over a thousand. I think it might have been 1,100. The hallways were super crowded, as were the classrooms. I would encourage you to stop by any one of our middle schools right now and just see what it's like during a passing time when you have middle schoolers passing and the whole building passes at the same time. Also, visit at different times in different parts of the building because we have pinch points and it will continue to get worse as our enrollments increase. So, public, it is absolutely something we need. Caution zone ahead. Ask the hard question. Consider what is given up, not just gained, when repurposing areas instead of adding on. For instance, the library space at Kenwood Trail gave up space for two smaller classrooms. Upside, more space. Downside, in those two classrooms, you can hear everything that's going on to in the classroom that's adjacent to it. Nothing was done for sound mitigation. And so, it's awfully hard to have a small group classroom next to chaos. And it's it's a I mean, it's okay chaos. It's not bad. Um Several of my media specialists and counterparts have shared a common experience where a small group of district staff and what we assume were architects or interior designers walked through our library spaces, made observations, took notes, and talked with each other. Engaging with the DMS, the librarian, was not part of the conversation or part of the plan. Unfortunately, several of us found out later that decisions were made about changes to our spaces without seeking our input. One of on one of the DO group member visits to the Kenwood library, I happened to approach the group and asked a few questions. Those who know me know I ask questions all the time. One comment stunned me. I was told that long ago that the long-range plan of the district was to decrease the footprint of all the district media centers and libraries. I believe decreasing the size of the library collection was also being considered. This plan concerned me, not because I wanted to protect my space, but because I know the academic and social value of the library and how the space is being used. It's used by classroom teachers. It's used for staff meetings. It's used if teachers need to evacuate a classroom due to a child misbehavior or sickness. So, it's not just a library. So, remember that caution zone. Think about your spaces. Thank you. Great, thank you. Next speaker is Maddie Wolkow. Okay. Good evening, members of the board. My name is Maddie Wolkow and I'm here today because it is so deeply concerning to watch our community lose Mr. Blake Nichols through a process that appears to have been incomplete. Like Mr. Nichols, I'm a former Lakeville South basketball player, captain, and college athlete with deep generational ties to the Lakeville South basketball program and this community. This program helped shape who I am. And because of that, I care deeply about how decisions that impact it are made. I want to begin by sharing that I sent you an email in advance outlining some of my concerns in more detail, and I appreciate your consideration of that message and my comments tonight. In my professional career, I work on high-value federal contracts and collaborate closely with HR and legal teams on a daily basis. I understand what a fair, thorough, and credible process should look like when someone's career and reputation are on the line. Over the past several days, you've received an outpouring of support and concern from this community regarding Mr. Nichols, and it's clear just by looking around this room tonight that those messages were not isolated. This community is paying attention, and that's because this situation matters. What makes this so difficult is not just that we're losing Mr. Nichols. It is that we're losing him through a process that appears to what have has been unbalanced and incomplete. Families and community members who are willing to provide important contact contacts were never interviewed. Parents and coaches asked to meet and provide clarity, and that opportunity was never given. Not because they couldn't be heard, but because they were never asked. Choosing to not include them was not a limitation of policy. It was a limitation of scope, and when the scope is limited, the outcome is, too. And that matters because we're not just talking about someone in a role. We're talking about someone who is deeply invested in this community. Mr. Nichols is a Lakeville South South alum who chose to come back, purchased a home here, and committed himself to this community. He has hosted youth camps, showed up to youth sports and school events, and volunteers at Lakeville communities like the Downtown Lakeville Trick-or-Treat event, and the Holiday on Main one, as well. He has also worked to rebuild alumni connections within the girls basketball program, which has strengthened a sense of pride and legacy. That kind of presence matters, and that kind of investment matters, and it is incredibly difficult to watch someone who has given this much be removed through a process that so many believed did not capture the full picture. In just 2 years, he helped bring energy, connection, and purpose back to this program, while also contributing to strengthening the business program at Lakeville South. So, tonight, this is more This is about more than one position. This is about the standard. Are we comfortable with accepting a process where incomplete fact-finding is enough to make a decision like this? Because if we are, then we are setting a precedent that should concern every family, every student, and every staff member in the district, and I do not believe that that is who we are. So, I respectfully ask the board to table the decision to accept Mr. Nichols' district-requested res- resignation and remove Mr. Nichols from the consent agenda tonight to allow for further review. Because losing someone like Mr. Nichols is hard enough, but losing someone like Mr. Nichols because the process failed to get it right is a loss that this community should not accept. Thank you. Okay, and our final speaker is Joe McCartney. Good evening, Chair and board members. My name is Joe McCartney, and I'm speaking tonight as the father of two daughters in the basketball program, a community member, and a member of the Lakeville South Girls Basketball Association board. I'd like to share my perspective regarding Coach Nichols and the program that he is building. In my experience, Coach Nichols represents the type of educator that school districts work hard to recruit and retain. He's values-driven, consistent, and deeply committed to the student development. His leadership is grounded in his strong personal principles, and he brings those values into the program through his passion, accountability, and genuine focus on developing young people, not just athletes. Beyond the varsity level, Coach Nichols has helped build excitement for the girls basketball program through the use youth levels, as evidenced by the people here. As a youth association board member, I've seen firsthand the positive culture that he's fostered through his passion, through his commitment, and through the accountability and values that he brings. He's generating palpable enthusiasm among the younger players and their families. None of us in this room is perfect, and perfection has never been the standard that we hold our educators or coaches to. What matters is character, intent, and the overall impact on students. And by that standard, Coach Nichols' reputation and record speaks for itself. I want to acknowledge the district's responsibility to take concerns seriously and to carefully handle complex situations. However, fairness and integrity in the process is just as important as the outcome. It is disappointing that many members of our program made efforts to share supportive feedback with members of the administration during this process, and there appears to have been little to no effort to seek out or meaning- meaningfully engage to consider those perspectives. Additionally, family members and student athletes that are most directly affected were not given an opportunity to share their perspectives and experiences. >> [snorts] >> As it stands, this decision feels as though it was made in a vacuum, one that did not adequately seek out or weigh the perspectives of those most impacted. When decisions of this magnitude are made without broader input or independent review, it raises concerns about whether the process was fully vetted and balanced, and it understandably diminishes the confidence in the outcome. Coach Nichols has earned the trust and respect of many families in this community. Look at the support tonight. >> [snorts] >> I trust Blake. I respect Blake, and it's someone I want coaching my two daughters. I have a fourth-grader and a freshman. >> [snorts] >> I respectfully urge the board and the administration to ensure decisions of this nature are guided by a fair, comprehensive, and transparent process. I strongly support Coach Nichols and encourage the district to table this district-requested resignation for further discussion, which will restore confidence and allow the program to move forward in a healthy and positive way. Thank you for your leadership. Great. Thank you to all of our speakers tonight. That concludes the public comment um section of our agenda tonight. Um the next item on the agenda is to review and comment on public hearing. I have been advised um that we should move this to our work session on April 14th because it will um we will we be we will be able to have further discussion on all the things regarding this. Michael, do you have anything to add to that? But it's about our bonds about the bond. Yeah, it's been brought to my attention that uh every board member may not have read the review and comment document, and I want to make sure that you have an opportunity to do that and to uh get uh any feedback, uh further detailed information, and I think the work session's the best opportunity to do that. So, I'd like um to make a motion to um table this for tonight to move to our April 14th meeting for discussion. Is there a second? I'll second. Okay. Second by um First by Cameron, second by Reckenberg. All in favor or any discussion? Yeah, Brian. I'm sorry. This is related to the levy or public hearing? This is related to the bond uh um For the 20 million? Yes. >> Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. All in favor of tabling and moving to April 14th, say I. I. I. Any opposed? All right, motion passes 6-0. Um now we'll move to consideration of approval of the consent agenda. The consent agenda tonight includes board minutes from our January 27th meeting, uh February 24th, and March 10th meetings, employment recommendation, leave requests and resignations, payment of bills and claims, wire transfers and investments, resolution regarding acceptance of gift donations, extended field trips, the resolution for appointing election judges for our May 12th um uh uh election, and uh the '27 to '29 school calendars. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? So moved. Uh first by Anderson, is there a second? I'll second. Second by Swanson. Um any discussion or items that um what someone would like to pull? Okay. Hearing none, um all in favor of approving the consent agenda, say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? I oppose. Okay. Um motion passes 5-1. All right, we'll move to um item number five, district reports and discussion. Uh this um is a placeholder on our agenda every meeting that we have. Um there are no additional reports or discussions um for tonight. They're all um under recommended actions, so we will we'll move to number six. Uh so, with that um uh the [clears throat] first item on this uh under recommended actions is our medical and dental renewal. Um just to update um the board and members of the audience and those that are listening. So, at our um March 10th work session, we had Aaron Casper from uh who's our Lakeville Area Schools consultant with the National Insurance Services, who gave a thorough um presentation about our medical and dental renewal um recommendation, and um after the process, Aaron shared that Blue Cross Blue Shield, who's our current provider, is being recommended um as the insurance medical insurance provider that we continue with, uh with one change being that we would add Crumdale Specialty and Express Scripts as the pharmacy benefit manager uh for the district. Um this particular recommendation projects an approximately $2 million annual savings um by lumping these two um companies together. Um he also highlighted and we discussed um thoroughly that the most recent 12 months of claims uh for our district has been higher than the previous 12 months um both because of um inflationary cost, um but also increased use. And so, uh the district, along with um our consultant, is proposing an aggregate plan increase of 15% to account for increased claims activity um uh on our policies. For dental insurance, um, dental Delta Dental continues to be the recommended insurance provider and a 3% increase is being recommended for board consideration with our dental. Um, and Aaron, um, and the district also highlighted that, um, through through their company, um, National Insurance Services and through the insurance committee, there'll be continued evaluation of various programs designed to manage costs for the district, um, as we as we, um, kind of deal with increasing medical costs in particular and how to balance that, um, with the needs of our with our workforce. So, um, in the board packet is his presentation that he gave at our March 10th meeting and we, um, discussed, um, discussed this recommendation there. Um, so with that, tonight we are here to, um, uh, consider approval of that recommendation. So, with that, is there a motion to approve the medical and dental renewal as presented, um, in our board packet and as discussed at the March 10th meeting. So moved. Uh, first by, um, uh, Baker. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Swanson. Discussion. Brian. Yeah, I'm trying to remember if, uh, at at our last meeting. So, the school district, we are a self-funded and enterprise or organization and so we collect claims, I'm sorry, we collect premiums and then based on our medical expenditures, we we pay it pay it out of our our claims claims account or whatever you want to call it. Um, uh, past couple years we've been historically at $30 million on average kind of claims expense expenditures and then last year uh, it kind of unfortunately, uh, not unfortunately, just it was an outlier year, we think, and it ended up being about $35 million. And so every, uh, every, you know, organization that that's generally self-funded has to have its own little uh, kind of a health insurance savings account. We had a roughly about eight eight and a half million dollars. That $5 million over than what we had anticipated anticipated dropped it down uh, significantly down to about two and a half $3 million left in our savings account. Uh, the presentation that we had two weeks ago suggested that with their, uh, recommended that there would be an increase to the health insurance premiums, uh, by 15%. Is that 15% increase I um, help me if you can clarify. With that increase, are they going to be collecting roughly $35 million? Is is that, uh, throughout the course of the year? Is that what it was going to be? Uh, and so, and I so bear with me as I kind of speak this out loud. If we're only going to collect $35 million and our expenditures are going to be $35 million again, if the outlier continues, then we're not really saving any money in the savings account. And for whatever reason if our expenditures of $35 million is no longer an outlier but becomes the baseline and it ends up being $37 million, now the savings account that we have has now gone gone even more negative. And so, I just want to make sure I understand is the 15% increase to cover what we spent last year or is it to cover what we spent last year plus more to increase the savings account in our in our health savings account? Does that make sense? >> Yep. Okay. Long story. >> Do you want to come up or Great. Thank you. I'm not going to answer that, Brian. Thank you. Madam Chair, members of the school board, um, um, Superintendent Bowman. Um, to answer your question, it is to do both. We are working hard to not only, you know, cover the increase claim increased claims that we saw last year, but also to start to recover the fund. I mean, it's not going to be immediately recovered back to $8 million in 1 year. Um, but the we're looking at that 15% to stop the decrease and to start building it back. That help? Right. Director Thompson. So, so the 15% increase, it's going to, uh, >> [clears throat] >> the goal or the the plan is to receive more than $35 million in, uh, potential claims expenditures and then so that we have a little bit of buffer. I'm just I'm going to make a number up. You're going to try to receive roughly $36 million in claims, uh, or in premiums with the hope that if you happen to if we spend $35 million, we have just a little bit of a extra cushion, uh, but if we go over beyond that, then that's Is that what I is that correct? My understanding? Yeah, I mean, of course, we don't know how many claims we're going to have this year. Every single month we're watching it. We have had one larger, um, month this past year, um, but the rest of the months have been behaving the way that we would expect them to behave. So, I mean, it's all speculation to know I can't give you an exact number where I think we're going to be, but I I believe that the increased, um, revenue that [clears throat] we're going to receive is going to cover the claims that we have this year. Yes. Great. But I can't guarantee you that we're going to just jump back up to $8 million. Director Anderson. I think part of it was we don't exactly know if we're seeing a trend in a certain direction yet or not. So, if we start to see like another big year like we did last year, we're going to have to make another decision next year to cover that. So, I I think was it an anomaly or was it is there a trend that we need to be following and making adjustments accordingly. So, this year feels like we're trying to catch up with what happened, but we're not trying to overcompensate for that because that would obviously increase premiums even more for our teachers. Maybe more than necessary. Yes. And for all staff. Yeah. And staff, sorry. Another question. Director Thompson. >> And then and then if if it if last year was an outlier and we get back to our historical historical uh, spend of roughly $30 million, that extra that the premium was provided would obviously boost our savings account and then there might be potentially a pathway where lower premiums the following year. I mean, assuming if if all things are, you know, if things work out. So, again, when we spend roughly $30 million a year on monthly expenditures for for health insurance, we want to have roughly what, 30%? No. In our savings account. So, that's going to be roughly $9 million in our health insurance savings account. And right now we've got what, two and a half million-ish? About two and a half million. >> Two and a half million. Yeah. We certainly expect recovery is going to take, you know, two, three, four years to get back where we were. And again, we're not saying people can't use health insurance. Like that's that's not the intent. It's just to make sure just if you need it, go use it. That's why we have it. But we are a self-funded organization, so we need to make sure we have the money to be able to afford that and the premium increase is because of the potential outlier and the lower savings account balance that we have within the health insurance category. Great. Any other questions or comments? Okay. With that, there's a first by Baker, second by Swanson. All in favor of approving the medical and dental renewal as proposed, say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? All right. Motion passes 6-0. Um, moving on to letter B, ELA core resource recommendation for grades 9 through 12. So, this this was another topic at our work session 2 weeks ago. Um, at that work session, uh, the board reviewed the standards review and core resource adoption process for the district. Um, and at that presentation, uh, we learned that the English language arts standards-based review process and field testing of resources started in 2024 and that through those, um, two processes of standards and, um, field testing, CommonLit 360 was moved forward as the recommended core resource for grades 9 through 12. >> [snorts] >> Uh, community review for this resource happened, um, during the full month of December, uh, 2025. And then, um, at the January 12th, 2026 meeting, the teaching and learning advisory council, which includes, um, community members, parents, school board members, staff, and students reviewed that recommendation, um, and made, uh, or reviewed the tool and made the recommendation to adopt CommonLit, uh, 360, uh, to move to the school board for approval. Um, and so that's what we discussed, um, that day. And so, um, continuing from from our work session, CommonLit 360 continues to be the recommended, uh, core resource for the board to consider for approval for grades 9 through 12. Uh, so with that, is there a motion to approve, um, got to get the name right, CommonLit 360 as the core resource for grades 9 through 12. So moved. Move uh, first by Baker, is there a second? Second by Rickenbacker. Uh, discussion. Yeah. Director Swanson. I mean, I don't know if Tracy wants to answer this, but I just wanted to make sure, uh, two things which I believe we kind of discussed at the work session. Um, just want to confirm that, uh, this resource does allow for uh, cross-district alignment, um, for these courses at both high schools and then also provides for either common assessment or comparable assessment tracking across both schools so we can track student performance, um, you know, equally or so we can compare it across both schools or any classes that it applies to. Yes. Um, good evening, uh, thanks to Chair Cameron, uh, Superintendent Bowman, and board members. It does, uh, align across district, um, both uh, sides of town teachers will have, uh, all the resources they need. They will also use the resource to help them create common assessments across the district. Okay. Will we have access to that at some point once those are in place? The common assessments? Any community member could have access to review the curriculum and all of those pieces associated with the curriculum. So, you can certainly review that. That's not typically something that we bring to the board for approval. Well, I guess my question was more so on will the board be able to see how our students are performing on the curriculum based on those common assessments? If that's a metric we want to bring forward, we certainly could do that. We will see because that's a lead-up metric to our MCAs. We should be seeing some improvement in our MCAs. Other questions? Okay. With that, there's a first by Director Baker, second by Reichenberger. All in favor of adopting Common Lit 360 as the core resource for grades 9 through 12, say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? Great. Motion passes 6-0. And now we will move on to the LTF bond sale. And I'm going to invite Director Holm. Yep. >> Point of information. Just want to The board is going to continue on with the rest of their business agenda items. And so, for those who have come and and are more than welcome to stay and and listen to the rest of the board agenda topics. But for those that choose to want to move on, they can do so if they like. All right. Thanks, Director Holmgran. I'll turn it over to you. Is that okay? Yes. Okay. Great. Yes, Madam Chair, members of the school board, Superintendent Bowman. We've been talking over the last several months about time to do a bond sale for our LTFM projects. I put on your desk a sale day report so you can see the details. And I've asked Shelby McCoy from Ehlers after to come on up to go through the details of the sale with you this evening. Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Good evening, Madam Chair, members of the board, Superintendent Bowman. Presenting the the sale day results for the $20.6 million LTFM bond. I was here just last month talking about what we anticipated coming into today's sale. I don't think any of us could have anticipated all the events that would cause market fluctuations, but nonetheless, the results were good and there were several bidders in the market today looking for some municipal debt. So, >> [snorts] >> during that time you also received another um a rating commensurate with this this sale. And they affirmed your A1 rating. So, that's what we went into the sale with today. You received seven bids. The winning bidder was or the low bidder, which you award on is 3.5 was 3.5, which was a little bit higher than we anticipated during the pre-sale. However, the interest on it was lower, but the deposit to the construction fund was a little bit lower as well. So, some of that premium bid that we anticipated offsetting the interest rate was did not materialize. But nonetheless, the interest that the taxpayers will see will be less as well. So, a little bit of nuances there with that. The winning bidder, TD Financial out of New York, and you can see the cover bid there. Also out of New York, Jefferies, the high bid at 7.7 3.75, excuse me, was Huntington. The schedule is included there as well in the sale day attachments. And then just a revisit of the long-term capital plan. And you know, just a double-check that we went through today to make sure that we were still going to meet the tax impact that you proposed to voters as part of the middle school projects in the referendum coming up in May. And that all still fits in the capital plan as as you've proposed to voters. So, wanted to make sure that that sits really well. Um And the reading agenda is also attached at the end of the report. They did note a couple of factors that would lead to an upgrade. One being that the fund balance ratio approach 15%. So, you can see the medians are right there a little bit higher than that, but that's one of the metrics that they put out there for an upgrade. So, I will leave it at that. Allow you to answer ask any questions that I can answer. The official action item is the resolution to award the sale tonight to TD. Great. Any questions? Director Thompson? Yeah. So, thank you for being here. Probably less of a quick Well, yeah. More of a question for the board. I take that back. Probably a question for you. Let me I'm looking at the the interest rate. So, when we go out to bid for the $20 and again, this is for us to maintain our capital our capital maintenance projects. And I'm looking at the loan for $20 is what is what we is what we want. It's an 8-year No. How long of a term is this? It's 11. >> 11-year term. And we're going to spend like $8.3 million in interest over that 11-year term, which is seems high. I mean, let me rephrase that. Not high. It's it's probably standard with when you take out a loan of that size for that duration of almost 11 years. Um Is there due to market conditions of where we're at today, do we have to approve this? And I'm just cuz cuz I just don't know. Could we say no? And can we go back, let's say a month later when maybe market conditions might be a bit more favorable? And would that potentially have a lower interest rate to reduce some of the interest payments? I don't know. That was just a question if that's even something like, "Hey, here's your loan amount. Here's your interest payment. Do you want to accept it or not?" And do we have the ability to say no? So, I'll pause here for for that. So, you you do have the ability to say no. That's not going to look favorable to the markets when you take that money when you take this bond out again in a little bit or whenever you you would foresee the market being more favorable. The interest rate the district received was a 3.5%. So, these are tax-exempt rates and that's a very historically low interest rate still. So, while we would have you know, would have liked to see the 3.09, the 3.5 is a considerably good rate overall. You'll also have the ability to refinance a portion of this come and I don't know the exact date here. Um in 2033 for the 2035 maturity. So, in the fall there. And then you would be able to refinance the last two mature three maturities. So, that is upwards of $12 million that you could refinance at that time for savings to the taxpayers. So, we do we did have several internal discussions on whether or not to to hold on this given market conditions, but they weren't disruptive enough to not to sort of time that to pull it and and better time the market. So, they were very consistent overall with what we're seeing today. And given the fact that you would if you don't have the money available and would have to delay projects that you've already incorporated into your into your plan, that may be you know, the the cost of of that may be more disruptive to the overall plan. Great. Director Reichenberger? Yeah. Kind of piggybacking on that. If it were to be pulled and we were to wait at a later time, the rates could still increase, which is a risk that we would have to consider as well. And when we talk about the the markets right now, they are a little chaotic from month to month, year to year. So, I know that with past history of what I've what I've worked at Ehlers, bond bond sales in this range were pretty common. They were this is a feasibly good rate. And looking at the number of bidders that we had, that is all those are all good signs. So, Madam Chair, members of the board, I that's another factor that we considered, too. There was nine bidders signed up this morning. >> [snorts] >> Seven bidder bids actually came in. So, the two dropped that dropped off were not ones that we see repeatedly. So, probably just testing kind of our our sales out there. So, I think that would have been another factor. If one bid came in, we wouldn't have been able to see where the market necessarily was. And and that may weigh in a little bit more. But I think you know, if you were not to award we'd we'd have to do some selling to these these underwriters on the on Lakeville's next issuances. Director Swanson? So, this was the lowest rate of the seven offers that came in? That's correct. >> Okay. That is Madam Chair, that's the parameters that you or put when you intend to sell bids as you will award to the lowest bidder. Further questions or discussion? Okay. With that, is there a motion to approve the bond sale? So moved. First by Reichenberger, second? Second. Second by Baker. Any further discussions? I'm getting a lot of sorry, feedback on my mic. But um Any discussion? Okay. All in favor of approving the sale, say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion passes 6-0. Administrator, thanks for having us and um we appreciate your business. Thank you for facilitating. All right, with that With that um sorry about the feedback, everyone. Um moving on to policy 502, which is search of student lockers, desks, personal possessions, and student persons. Uh as a reminder, um we discussed this um a few meetings ago. Um and and sat with it. Um we're we're going to try to tackle it last meeting, but because of the length of our meeting, we we tabled it to this meeting. Um and so with that, um we can get into discussion, but um uh I think as it's a recommended action, I'd entertain a motion to approve uh the proposed um edited policy, which um to remind everyone, the policy is just edited um basically adding new legal references and cross-references um in order for the policy to comply with um with up-to-date legal standards and um making sure this policy is connected to the relevant other policies that our district has. Is there a motion to approve policy 502? So moved. Uh first by Baker. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Second by Anderson. Uh discussion on the item. Yeah, Director Swanson. Yeah, I know I commented on this the last time we discussed this um and my only you my request to change would be to amend it to add something in the procedures whereby the school after a search has been performed, um you know, we already notice in there that if there's a search of the locker, we notify the students. Um but I would request that there be an addition to notify the parents after a search has been been performed. I mean, as written, um it says even if there's a search of the person, even if there's a strip search of the person the student, there's uh no provision to notify the parents. Well, I think some of our internal policies may provide for that. Uh if the internal policies do, I don't know why uh the school board policy shouldn't as well. Do you want me to make a formal amendment to that? >> if there's if there's support for it, um sure. I'll move to amend uh the policy to add a provision to section four uh to require the notification of parents after a student has been searched um within a reasonable allotment of time. And you could add it to either create it as subsection H. Okay, great. So, there's a um amendment to the motion to um change on page two um adding um under procedures, section four, item H to require notification of um parents or guardians after a search has been performed. Is there a second? I'll second that. Okay, second by um Director Thompson. Uh discussion. Uh Director Anderson. Yeah. Oh, thank you. >> Did you raise your hand? I did, but Okay, but I'll go. Director Thompson. >> Go ahead. Yes. Uh so, here's what I heard. Uh so so we brought this up, I think three meetings ago. Uh lots of good dialogue, and then there was a working session, uh which I unfortunately was not a part of. I was out of town, but I think the working session might have gotten a little sideways around, "Oh, you need to call them before we actually do the search." No, that was not that was not the intent that I had. The intent that I had was that if you're going to search a locker, or if you're going to I'm sorry, if you're going to search my child's locker, or if you're going to search my child's person, or my child's bag, I don't want to find out from my child like four days later. Uh in those kind of instances, to me it feels like I would expect the school district to at least send me an email, or shoot me or give me a call to say, "Hey, we did check your son, we did check your daughter, blah blah blah." Especially if you're going to check the person, I would I would want to know before uh uh before finding out from my from my child when they come home, "Did you know that I got searched, blah blah blah blah blah." Now again, it is not designed, let me rephrase that. I'm not saying it needs to be done to uh to do the search, because if the school district has full authority to do that, and there's going to be emergency scenarios X, Y, Z. But that's no different from if if I get a phone call because my son threw a french fry during lunch, which actually occurred two years ago, I should probably get a phone call if they're going to search my child's body. So, but that's that's the intent. Um Can I You want to go? Can I clarify that real quick? Sure, go ahead, Director Baker. No one here is saying that the district doesn't call a parent after um a student has been searched. That's in our policies and procedures. It's just not written into our um our Point of information. district policy. Point of information. It's right here in their student handbook that it says, "As soon as practical after the search of a student's personal possessions, the school officials will provide notice of the search to the student." And that's it. That's in the handbook. So, I cuz I read it. So, Superintendent Bauman did some investigation after our last discussion um and the even though it's not written, found information on practice that our schools provide. I don't know. Do you Do you recall? I did share with every board member a couple of things. Uh cross-reference between PFDA, what our um handbook says, what our 506 policy uh says that's related to this, um how 504s and IEPs work with regard to this, and also provide you a chart at level three, search contraband, parent notification required, uh parent involvement in investigation after investigation. Um so, I laid it out level one through level five, and also law enforcement and violent history disclosures um on a matrix. Uh and I would just call your attention back to that in all manner. Uh I think we also discussed uh legal counsel recommendation with regard to including uh requirements of procedure in policy. Uh and and so I I I'm sure you're all remembering that and taking that into consideration. Uh I do think that uh within our policies uh and I I'll go back to 506, which is not 502, but we do have another governance policy that touches this, uh as well as our process and procedures, as I've shared with you, that um we ought to follow advice of counsel on this matter, uh and assure the the uh community that we do have uh notification to our parents uh in a variety of scenarios that uh includes this one in particular. Director Anderson. Yeah, I was just going to kind of um you highlighted everything that I felt like we previously discussed in terms of um potential legal complications with this, as well as um I think it is the practice of our principals to make these phone calls. And that that was I was reassured by our principals that that is the process. Um you did receive a phone call about the french fry, so I'm assuming that you get a phone call about I mean, I think I have not received a single email to tell us that a parent has not received a phone call in these kinds of situations. So, I just feel like we're um we have a process in place that's working, and so that's why I would support keeping policy as is. Anything given legal advice. I'll just add that um [clears throat] just to to remind the community that the these policies are being brought forth based on um Minnesota School Board Association audit. Um and so we're just trying to get our policies into compliance with um best standards, and so this question was asked of our legal counsel as Superintendent Bauman um mentioned, and and it was highly recommended that we do not add this into because it would increase the liability for the district, um which could result in in additional lawsuits. Um meanwhile, having the information from our our processes and procedures that Bauman has described, highlighting that parents are notified in these instances, I think help me understand how this works on the ground. But um Director Swanson. Uh yeah, just to be clear, I um and maybe to I don't really even remember how I worded my proposed amendment to the motion, but I'm more concerned with search of the persons the person. Uh there should be no expectation of privacy in your locker. I mean, it's the school's property. But uh as a parent, um and because we do have policies or other internal practices to call parents, I don't I don't know why we wouldn't just put it in the policy itself. So, um that's my two cents. >> [snorts] >> Director Thompson. Yeah, if I if I if I was a parent, and I wanted to go look up what's the policy around searching my student, and I go to 502, that's what I'm going to read. And so, I'm not going to read the 19 other things that it might be in that may that may be or may not be in there. Like as a as a community stakeholder, you're like, "This is what I'm going to This is what I'm going to go see." And so, if we're if we're already going to do it, and we're already doing it, then why don't we just put it in it? I think our the advice of legal counsel is it's good that we're doing it, and we we can continue, but adding it increases again the lia- liability risk toward the district. Uh Director Eikenberger. Yeah, um I kind of share um Director Swanson's um uh comments regarding um searches of the person. That is uh um an aspect of this um and it um it's referenced in section E of the procedures relating to um a strip search and then in uh section D and I'm wondering if um perhaps if the amendments can be can be restated only to apply specifically to those two areas. Um so that's uh it is narrowly tailored to um accommodate those instances. So I believe we first have to vote on the first amendment and then we can make Can we amend an amendment? I don't believe so. No. So we have to vote on the first and then decide if a if a a different amendment is made in the event that's needed. >> Correct. Any other discussion or questions? Director Swanson. Oh no, I thought you're going to write it down. See, okay. Okay, with that um there is a first by Swanson, uh second by Thompson to amend or to make an amendment that would add a letter H under procedures that would require notification of parents after a search and guardians after a search has been performed. Did I get that correct? Okay. All in favor um say I. I. I. So we have Swanson and um Thompson. >> I. And Rickenberger. Okay. Um all opposed say I. I. What? Or no. Or no. No. No. Okay. >> No. All right. Um Baker, Anderson, and Cameron. So motion uh fails. Correct. I would like to move and make an amendment um applying Director Swanson's previous language to sections D and E under the procedures. So your amendment is to add a a sentence to both D and E that would say um parental notifi- parental {slash} guardian notification is required is required. Cuz it would These are about what it's for. Um After. After. Okay. Chair. Director Baker. Um Superintendent Bowman, when you're doing those specific types of searches, isn't that um not really a school district employee that would be entering into that type of a search, but would we use our resource officer? >> [clears throat] >> Can I please finish? Thank you. One clarification. Um yeah, can we get a first and a second first and then go into discussion? Is that okay? Yep. Is that what you're going to Yeah. There's been a motion made. So there's a motion by Rickenberger. Did I get your motion correct? Just want to Okay. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Director Swanson. Okay. Now discussion. Sorry, you can That's okay. Um for those specific types of searches, I'm assuming that it wouldn't be a school district employee, but it would be through our resource officer based on the sensitivity of that and why we'd be doing that type of search. It could be either. Um there are scenarios where you know a school resource officer is not available and the immediacy of the situation requires uh an administrator to do that. So I could see both. Okay. And then in those specific situations though, that would um apply to what you had shared with the board about that would be an an immediate like as soon as you're done with the investigation, then parents would be notified. Correct? Say that one more time. Sorry. Was that to me? No, that's to Superintendent Bowman where he shared about the the matrix that was shared with the >> regard to the matrix, it's required uh reasonable time uh not defined in seconds or minutes or hours. So currently it is required. Just not in the policy. >> That's correct. Yes. >> [clears throat] >> So is there any Director Director Rickenberger. My bad. So if it's already required and we're already doing it, is there any problem with putting it into the policy? Well, I I would just like to say with regard to what counsel advises, once you put it into policy, if there is any point of failure with regard to that, then your liability exposure comes into play. Um you know, is that is that uh enough of a concern for the board members? Policies your your uh purview, of course. Uh we have to execute on that. So um that's what I understand counsel's concern would be with putting it in there. Uh typically uh these policies, again, you know, we went through an audit. That's an attorney audit uh and they made that recommendation. Director Swanson. I mean, I can appreciate our counsel's concern, but in the reality, if if there was an issue, um and I'm counsel for the student or the parent, I'm saying, "Well, look, you're already violating your internal policies, you know, regardless of it regardless of whether or not it's the published school board policy." So again, that's why I'm saying if we have it in our internal policies, we should be doing it already and we shouldn't have a concern about adding it to to 502. Any other questions or comments or discussion? Director [snorts] Rickenberger. Only in the sense that like if under the policy if my kid was strip searched and the parent was and me as a parent wasn't notified, I'd be pretty pissed. Um I'd be very angry um and there would be some problems and I'm sure I would not be the only parent in that situation who would feel that way. All right. Director Thompson. Maybe we table this particular one and then bring in bring in a lawyer just to make sure we're all on the same page. Um again, we we did get the email from them saying they advise against it, but I would like further clarification from them on like why would you not want to let your parent a parent know? Now, here's the problem. I guess the scenario would be okay, let's play this out. They did it. They didn't call they didn't call the parents. What what would happen? You know, uh the the the parent could say, "Hey, you're supposed to notify me, but there's no rules that says you have to notify me within 24 48 hours, within 24 hours, or XYZ." Um uh a search occurs, something unfavorable happens, then and then and then what? We don't we don't get a phone call, child's in a scenario, we find out months later, you know, there's there there's extremes on both sides, but if someone's you know, you know, going through this process, uh I don't know. Maybe maybe we table it, bring in another person, have further dialogue at a working session, and then go from there. First, I think we need to vote on the amendments. Um on the on this amendment. Um any other discussion or comments? I can give you one more. Director Thompson. Is there Is there any interest on my proposal because then that might influence my decision on the vote? So I believe um during policy committee, we did read the legal opinion on this particular matter. Um but we can reshare that if you need like we can get that back again from him. Um I was just going to add that I can appreciate what what you and Matt and others are saying. For me, I think I'm comfortable knowing that our district is notifying parents. As I mentioned, I'm I'm married to someone who has to search students often in a different school district and so I'm very aware at the the care that um our staff and people in these roles give to these situations. So I'm balancing that with approving policy um and following best practices from the school board association, what other districts are doing, and with our legal advice. And so for me, I feel like there's a balance here both happening and I can appreciate that um and I and I want to make that clear that I'm not I'm not saying that parents shouldn't be notified. Um my understanding is that parents are notified in these situations um and um as a school board member, I want to protect students and our role is to um reduce liability for the district whenever possible. So that's that's my personal perspective. Uh Director Thompson. Yes, I I 100% aligned and I I think for me at at the end of the day, it's more of um uh we get notification when our students are late for class. Like literally, you get a tardy. And if I can't get a notification that they're searching my child for >> [clears throat] >> and and we can't put that anywhere in here, even though it may be an operational process, I I I don't know. Uh but 100% I'm I'm not saying things are bad and anything bad is happening, but for me, this is all about parental notification. Uh our kids are here for 8 hours a day, sometimes whatever longer, but uh I think instances like that warrant some sort of notification. That's all. All right. Director Rickenberger. I'm going to call the question on the amendment. Okay, call the question. Um for that we need 2/3 vote, so um all in favor of and is everybody familiar with that? That means we would move to vote. Um so all in favor of um moving to vote, say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? Okay, call the question um is approved. So with that, um we are voting on uh Director Rickenberger's amendment to add a sentence at the end of um D and E under procedures that would add the sentence, uh parent parental/guardian notification is required after the search. Correct? Is that correct? >> Yep. Okay, thank you. Um all in favor of this amendment, say I. I. >> I. I. All right. Um Director Reichenberger, Director Swanson, and Director Thompson. All those opposed, say nay. Nay. Uh Director Anderson, um Director Cameron, and Director Baker. Um motion fails. So, with that, we're back to the original um edited draft. Correct? Okay. Um and that was um Sorry, I'm just keeping track of things here. Um I believe 502 Yeah, yeah, it was 502, but um was it Baker and Anderson who was the first and second? Thank you. Um any further discussion on the policy as presented? I'm going to call the question on this, too. >> Okay. Call the question. Um all those in favor of calling the question, say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? All right, we'll move to vote. Um all in favor of approving uh policy 502, search of student lockers, as um presented um in the redline copy, say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? Nay. >> No. Nay. Uh sorry, I didn't I didn't mean to say nay, Alan. Um 3-3 But 3-3, correct? Were you Did you vote or absentia? >> I voted in favor. Oh, you voted in favor, okay. Um so, in I yeah, yes were Reichenberger, Anderson, um Cameron, and Baker, and nay were Swanson and Thompson. So, 502 um is approved. >> [gasps] >> Okay, moving on to policy 526, um hazing. Um a very similar um situation to 502, where the the edits proposed by the MSBA audit um I'm primarily um adding the cross-references uh that that align with our other school district policies on things such as discipline, harassment, and bullying bullying prevention, um and some additional commas, um but uh for the most part, that is that is the extent of the edits um to this policy. So, is there an approve uh motion to approve policy 526, hazing prohibition? So moved. Second. >> by Anderson, second by Reichenberger. Uh discussion on the item. Uh Director Thompson, sorry. Yes. Um I'm going to need just a few seconds. Let me grab my notes. I had um uh Okay. There was one here that I had thought um definition of hazing. Uh again, it means committing an act against a student dot dot dot dot dot. Um but there wasn't [clears throat] a lot and I shared this at the last meeting about hazing can also occur uh electronically and through a digital digital means, and that's not really captured in this. This is a a very more uh physical in nature. Uh and I know that we probably have a digital policy already that that exists, uh but when when we think about hazing and maybe when I think about hazing, it's I think of more physical uh just because of maybe Uh but now in today's days, it's more digital uh potentially in nature. And so, I just like to make sure that can we update the definition that hazing may occur in person or through electronic or digital means? So, that's I would entertain that if anyone has any interest, but if not, then Do you want to make that amendment? Nope, I'll pause and see if anyone else has any interest on that one. Okay. Uh Director Swanson. Um I [clears throat] wonder if that would just be covered under the bullying policy. You know, hazing is well They're two different things. Yeah, I'm just I'm wondering how you'd see hazing on as electronic means. Is there an expert on that on this question? It's good we're not experts. >> Brenda, do you have anything to add on that? The the bullying policy is 503, and I wouldn't be able to say off the top of my head, but generally speaking, hazing is more specific than bullying, so it's two different um processes and procedures for investigating. Uh I I would keep them separate. If I may, I can uh differentiate hazing and bullying. Uh I uh typically with hazing, you're talking about initiations, belonging, group loyalty. Could that be done on a uh electronic means? Possibly. Tied to group or team club activity is usually where you find hazing. Could be a one-time event. Could be uh a cyclical, repeatable event. Um when you're talking about bullying, you're talking about domination behaviors, intimidation, social harm. Uh can be with any student interaction, not necessarily tied to any particular club or activity. Uh usually repeated and over uh and severe uh single act can also be bullying. So, there's a lot of uh um cross-reference here with regard to the behaviors. Um and I do think that hazing does have a cyber component to it uh in in our contemporary operating environment uh of 2026. So, um you know, in my mind, it would not be a stretch to comment on cyber uh or electronic means. Chair. Director Baker. If you look at the definition, if you look at A4, any activity that intimidates or threatens a student, um that can definitely happen over electronic means or social media. Um any activity that causes or requires a student to perform a task that involves violation, that also can happen electronically. So, I've I would agree with Director Thompson. Director Anderson. Yeah, so I Does it seem like we need to be specific about including that, or is that all en encompassing in terms of various means through which someone might do that? That makes sense. I'm wondering either one of two things. One, Director Thompson, we could think about adding a phrase about in person or I don't think that's the right word, but something along those line, in person or cyber or electronically in in the preamble for A. Or we could add it like as Director Baker said, add the word um including electronic or including cyber in in number four in particular, cuz feels like one through three are more in person. But it says any activity. Right. Including that That to me, that's what I mean is if we start to get really specific, Mhm. the more everything changes in this world, that's going to get dated. So, is it one of those things where the way it is would encompass cyber and any other means by which someone would intimidate or coerce another student? Mhm. Yeah, we do have uh 524, which is bullying and cyberbullying is uh part of uh um appropriate use of electronics and technology. So, that's that's another element to this as well. And I may it may reference it at the end of the document in terms of other policies that uh are in play here. I'm not 100% sure. Yeah, bullying is referenced. Yeah. Director Thompson, what Sorry, were you Did you add more? Sure. Go ahead. >> [clears throat] >> Yeah, I think it is interesting here in section five, school district actions, letter E, it does state that school officials will notify the parents or guardians of students who are targets or victims of hazing and the parents of or guardians of alleged perpetrators of hazing who have been involved in a reported and confirmed hazing incident. Huh. Can we go back to your electronic suggestion? So, in response to Director Anderson, like do you feel like it's encompassed in the definitions when it says any activity, or do you think it'd be helpful to call it out specifically? I think for me is as as again, these policies are also to provide guidance for the district, but also informative uh context for for our communities community stakeholders. And so, when they've got an incident, whether it be in the uh high school handbook or or school handbook uh and and they also want to know what the policies are. Uh you know, I I I'm not saying that we need to make this super super uh you know, in a way where it's not uh for educational purposes, but how do we make it also very clear that this is what it entails and this is what it does not. And if it's excluded, then one can kind of assume, well, it maybe it's not included. So. Director Anderson. >> If we if um section three, number four had any activity by any means, um again, I don't I don't know if that Sometimes I think if we get specific, we're then excluding other things or we're not, you know, by staying broad and general, it's inclusive. And so, um because there are things that kids do to each other that are hazing type things, whether that be through um um, body image or suicidality or those kinds of things that are harmful to students. Um, but that can come from various it can be various means. So, any activity by any means or do we think we need to specifically call out? I mean, I personally think that number four encompasses the broader definition, but I agree with you, Director Anderson, and I think because of the impact of electronic or cyber world, whatever the correct term I'm not a tech person, as you can tell, but whatever the the appropriate term is that is happening more and more is like a vehicle to conduct this and it feels like we are the the model policy is being very specific about the physical things that can happen. So, I'm wondering in like here's [clears throat] a Um, I'd like to make an amendment to the policy to the draft policy to include a sentence after online this one page two line 16 after purpose where it says period and I need a little help here with the verbage. So, um, hazing can happen what what it's not live. Hazing can happen in person it like I'm struggling with what that word is, but I got it. Okay. Cyber hazing. Uh, the phrase I I just have uh, hazing may occur in person or through electronic or digital means. Period. >> Period. Thank you. So, the amendment is to add that sentence hazing can occur in person or in >> electronic or digital means. Is there a second on that amendment? >> it. Um, seconded by Thompson. Um, discussion. Director Anderson. Are there other ways that someone can do that would be my question? So, I know the first couple items focus on physical the physical nature but [snorts] are there other ways that people can commit hazing act that's not in person and not electronic? I'm sure they can do it verbally, so. Like are we getting into a narrow sphere here by doing that? Cuz someone could some something could happen in the cyber world and uh, administrator is going to interpret that within this policy and say this this is an incident of hazing that occurred electronically. It doesn't say can't occur electronically. Director Swanson. I agree. I mean, I think it's it it reads the same both ways. I mean, I think it's open I think the current proposed well, the current the existing language allows for both interpretations as well as adding it. So, I'm fine either way cuz I don't think it changes the effect of it. Any other discussion on the amendment? Okay. Move to vote or were you going to say something, Brian? No. No, I I think I'm good. I mean, the the definition again, this is this is the the scope of the policy. Uh, hazing means committing an act against a student or coercing a student into committing an act that creates a substantial risk of harm to a person in order for the student to be initiated into or affiliated with a student organization or for any other school related purpose. And so, that is the scope of the hazing definition in in this policy. So, all the other stuff that might be going on in the digital space, not our purview at from how but but if it's if it's associated with initiated into or some sort of student organization or other school related purpose, then it would capture that that's where I would see it how this policy then would be applied. Director Swanson. Yeah, that's my understanding. Okay. So, your opinion is that and Director Anderson says that that would be encompassed in this. Okay. All right. Um, all in favor of the amendment to add the sentence related to in person and electronic means, say I. I. I. All right, Director Thompson, um, Director Baker, and Director Reichenberger. Any opposed? No. No. No. Uh, I know it was my own amendment, but I think you can say >> [laughter] >> uh, so voted no. Um, Director Cameron, Director Anderson, and Director Swanson. So, uh, motion fails. So, back to the original motion. Uh, any further discussion on the edited policy? Director Swanson. I had a I had a question just on procedure. Um, and I believe we discussed this, but it's been a while. Um, and I believe additional information was provided. Uh, once a claim has been submitted um, and an investigation is commenced, what is the process um, as to the accused? I know there's a warning that's provided to them before they're questioned. Cuz it the policy is pretty vague. All it says is they have the opportunity to present a defense. Um, but my understanding is if somebody approaches them from the school district that they provide some type of specific like, hey, you don't have to there's like a there's a name for it. I'm blanking on it. >> The Tennison warning. A Tennison warning. Correct. Superintendent Bowman or anyone else, do you ever Yes, there it's Tennison for each of the for anybody who's going to be questioned {slash} interrogated {slash} interviewed. Any further questions or discussion? Okay. Director Thompson. But do kids know what that is? Like do kids actually they get these like this verbatim of do they actually know what and how to comprehend it? This goes back to uh, parental notification or right, Matt? I mean, we I think we talked about this a couple times where it's it get it's read to them and I don't I don't know if my 18-year-old kid [laughter] would know. Maybe maybe not, but I believe I don't remember if it's in this policy or another, um, but there's a similar situation with our school resource officers, right? Or any police if if they can interview kids without um, >> [clears throat] >> parental notification. I think the goal is to to notify parents and that's what the the policy or procedure states but it's not it's not a requirement um, for the police. I think we're we're in line with kind of that. I don't know if there's any other reflection. I I'm sorry, I can't remember the exact instance where that's written, but >> [snorts] >> Director Swanson. Yeah, I'm and I know I've already argued this before at prior meetings. I mean, my preference would be uh, in the event of activity that could be deemed criminal, the student is not questioned outside of the presence of their parent. The minor student, I should say. Um, yeah, I'll I'll just move to I'll make a motion to add that uh, to the proposed policy that um, and and I'll just say as a side and without quoting the language, I think our district I know we've argued this before, but I think our district is and our personnel are smart enough to identify when a situation may rise to the level of criminality. And so, I would move to amend the proposed policy to add a requirement where an accused student is to be investigated by district personnel or an SRO, um, that students that student parent is allowed parent or guardian is allowed to be present for that questioning. Okay, there's a motion. Everybody catch it. I'm not going to repeat Matt's whole motion, but is there a second? Um, I'll second it. All right, seconded by um, Director Reichenberger. Discussion. Director Anderson. Can I just clarify how often this happens in terms of um, how often this comes up where students are interviewed and like what is the general process that happens in the district? Mr. Bowman. I I don't have an answer on frequency in data terms. Um, the I just want to ask a clarifying question. Is it the expectation in the policy that before any questioning occurs and Tennison has been issued that um, a parent has to be present for a uh, interview or inquiry? That's your motion, correct? Yeah, in the event that the um, the hazing is of a level that could be criminal, potentially criminal. I think uh, when if it if it turns into uh, a criminal scenario, what I'm what I'm most concerned with is local and immediate ability for um, um, administration to assess the situation. Um, it is uh, procedurally our uh, administrators uh, will will speak with parents about those situations. Um, but if there's a we can't talk to the student until the parent's present, I think there's some deep concerns about our ability to assess a situation in the immediate context. Um I'm unaware of any abuses, per se. Um but I would think at both of our high schools, in particular, there Well, with regard to hazing, I Do we have a hazing problem in our system? I do not think so. I I'm unaware of that. Uh I would be aware of that. Um So, with regard to frequency, um I think I'm in my eighth year at Lakeville Area Schools. Uh Trying to think if there's been a hazing scenario that has come to my level. And I cannot recall one. I would have to really look in the archives to see if there is one. Um to try to answer that question of frequency. Great. Director Baker, then Swanson. So, I would caution the board for making a policy that goes above and beyond what Minnesota state law is. Um the law does not require um a parent to pre- be present for a student to be questioned in a school investigation. Um I would second what Superintendent Baumann said, and I would be concerned that if there was a level of hazing that had occurred to the to that significant of a level, that delaying the investigation could impact student safety and a situation of that caliber. Director Swanson. Uh you just just to clarify. So, I'm not asking that they delay the investigation, just the question questioning of the alleged perpetrator. And given the infrequency of the incidents, um I would just urge the board to err on the side of protecting students' rights. Any other discussion? Or Director Baker? Those rights go both ways, though. So, we have to protect not only the rights of the perpetrator, but the rights of the students that have been um harmed in this situation, as well. So, like I said, if we have to delay the investigation to wait for a pres- a parent to be present, waiting, then student safety could be impacted. Any other? Director Swanson. I guess I don't understand how it would lead to any potential additional harm. It doesn't mean that the the school district can't take action, you know, if they need to send a kid home or something like that, or separate the kids, but how immediate questioning of one student somehow protects another student? I guess I'm confused as to how that correlates. Director Anderson. If we are talking about hazing happening electronically, like that's another I mean I don't know how quickly parents show up, and I'm sure there's a lot of variability with that, student by student. And so, um I can appreciate how some cases are more urgent, and how this could potentially delay any response that needs to be taken for safety purposes. Director Baker. I would also um consider the fact that in delaying an investigation because we're waiting for a parent to be present in a situation where student safety would be at risk, would also increase our legal liability in that situation. The The same question was asked of our um attorney about adding that provision, and the recommendation was no. Um that it would increase um the liability of the district. Director Thompson. Yeah, hey uh Director Swanson, when you say present, I I I think maybe you maybe folks and myself initially thought maybe in person. Could like Could a Could a parent be on the phone while it's occurring? Would that be Would you view that as kind of a a present state, as well? I mean, I know we're only supposed to have our cell phones during time. And so, there's a high probability that that person might be calling somebody. But if a parent can't be there in person, Director Swanson. Yeah, I mean, I guess my concern ultimately is I mean, we all have rights to not self-incriminate. Um however, if you're 15, 16 years old, you might not be smart enough um to assert those rights. And so, having a parent present, either in person or via the phone, who can tell you stop talking, you know, has some value. Um And again, you know, you we provide in the policy you have the right to defend yourself, but if you're sitting there and being questioned by the SRO or by a teacher, Yeah. And in no way, obviously, am I condoning hazing, but there is, you know, protecting our students from saying stupid things that get themselves in trouble. Director uh Superintendent Baumann, do you have a response to this? Is it okay if we don't? Okay. Director Baker. Could we add words to that that would say like when feasible? So that it does leave the option open. I think for me, a question comes in if What if a parent um is unreachable, which happens? Um then nothing can happen. I guess my I just don't understand under what set of circumstances you would need to question a kid today versus tomorrow. You know, why it couldn't wait 24, 48 hours. That's what I mean. Even that, like I I know of instances in my own family's experience where parents do just do not return phone calls, do not show up. Um and so then, how would that get handled, I guess? But for hazing, like in a hazing incidents, cuz the act has occurred. Right? And so, now we're in the >> And it could continue to incur. Well, again, but you can stop that without questioning the student. How would you stop it? Well, I mean, we'd have to talk about what the specific incident is in order to address it. >> [snorts] >> So, if it's, you know, physical violence from one student to another student, you know, you remove the student from school, or if it's actual physical violence, you'd be arrested. If there's an accusation >> I think my challenge is that um if you cannot talk to a student who is potentially per- perpet- perpet- I can't say the word right now. Perpet- Perpet- Committing the act. Um then and you're and the parents are unreachable, that student would get sent home. The hazing can continue. And there could be potential additional harm done to parties involved. Um and I think this is a fair Based on my experience, this is a reasonable thing to assume. Yeah. Director Swanson. How does the interview stop the hazing if the student wants to continue it, you know? Um just because a teacher talks to me about it doesn't mean I can't continue to do it. If that's If that's what you're saying, the interview of the student is the moment that stops the action, I I don't think there's any correlation to it, really. There has to be some other action. Cuz you can send me home, and if I'm doing it digitally, I'll go home and do it digitally, you know? Director Baker. Call the question. Okay, so we are calling to question approval of the um the amendment. Sorry, the amendment. Correct. By Swanson, and seconded by Ragenberger. Correct. Thank you. Um All in favor? Matt, will you restate it one more time? Or? Yes. >> The The idea. Um [clears throat] it would be I'd move to amend the proposed uh revision of the policy to include under section five of school district action, an additional section G, um which states that uh in the event that the hazing um is to the level of potential criminal conduct, that prior to a student being questioned, uh their parent be notified and and provided the opportunity to be present during the questioning of the student. So, before I get to that vote, there's a call to question vote. So, um do we want to cease discussion and and move to a vote? All in favor of um of that, say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? All right, call the question. Um was approved, so now I'm moving um to consideration of the amendment that Matt just articulated. All in favor of that amendment, say I. I. Director Ragenberger, Swanson, and Thompson. All opposed? Say no. No. No. Uh Director Baker, uh Cameron, and Anderson. So, we're back to the original policy as presented um through the MSBA audit. Any further discussion? Okay. Oh, Director Thompson. >> Yeah. So, So, I I need to clarify. I think I was I I I misspoke. The school district actions were to say, "Hey, um when there is uh a hazing event that has been reported and confirmed, uh then they would notify the parents that such event has occurred." And so, I think I'd like to kind of uh it's kind of again after the fact that um that is being notified. And so, back to Director Swanson's comment, you know, it's the the students it may be in a position where they're talking to a variety of adults, and may not know, you know, whether whatever they say or may not say. And so, I I I think I'd like to uh change letter e where it says school officials will be notified. Can you say what page you're on? >> Oh, I don't know what page it is. What what section? >> Section five, letter e. Okay, thank you. School officials will be notified will notify the parents or guardians of students who are targets or victims of hazing and the parents or guardians of the alleged perpetrator perpetrators of hazing who have been involved in a reported and confirmed hazing incident of the remedial or disciplinary disciplinary action taken to the extent permitted by law. And so I think I'd like I'd like to change it to parents school officials will notify the parents or guardians of students who are targets or victims of hazing when a hazing investigation is initiated and when a reported hazing incident is confirmed. So two notifications. What? Uh, so an amendment, right? Correct? Yes. >> Okay, is there a second? Second. All right, first by Thompson, second by Swanson. Director Anderson, can I clarify? I mean, would this be satisfied by just saying so I I think I hear what you're saying that you want the parent notified whether anything is reported. So if it's not confirmed, you still want the parent notified. Yeah, yeah, when it's initiated and when a reported hazing incident is confirmed. So the way the language is written right now is that we would only inform the parents when we have confirmed a hazing incident has been confirmed. >> What if you just take out and confirmed? So they've been involved in a reporting hazing incident. Yeah. I'm fine with that. Cuz it again it it's again >> Not two time points, it's just one. Correct. But but the intent is to let parents know that your child is involved in an incident before you know, before it it it happens. So. Bef- Before the investigation happens? >> Before the investigation, yes. Like your child has been informed we've we've been informed that your child is has been alleged to be in an incident and we are going to do some sort of investigation on your child. What I don't want to happen is come home and my child says guess what? I was in a meeting for three hours. For what? For XYZ. You know, like I I should know before my child gets home that something like that occurred at school. Superintendent Bomann, similar to the previous policy, what is the practice happening in the schools? The the notification uh because incidents get reported and may not have any substance to them is provided after the incident is confirmed. That's typically what happens. Okay. Okay, other comments or questions? So Brian, will you restate your motion one more time to amend? Uh, I think the motion The the amendment is to change the word uh or re- remove ed, right? It reported. So da da da who have been involved in a reported and confirmed who have been involved in a hazing incident. Wow. Instead initiated. Yeah. I would like I would like so before I make a motion, I think I I my preference would be that we as a district are again doing our best to inform our parents here's what's going on with your kid. And if an extra phone call is warranted before you you begin the investigation great. Or if you begin the investigation and very very shortly thereafter to let them know hey, we're going to an investigation has started. Uh, I think I as a parent would want to know that kind of information. And it's my understanding that is what is happening. So as I mean it's a similar conversation, right? To the previous policy. It's like is it should it be written in the policy where if we mess up one time, we are liable or do we continue our best practices which has not resulted in any complaints or challenges. So that's that's where I'm coming from. Other questions or comments about the amendment? Okay. Moving forward with Director Thompson amendment, all in favor say I. I. You you made a motion amendment, right? Yeah. >> Yeah, and you just said it. Yes, I would approve. Yes. Okay, Thompson, Swanson. Okay, all opposed say nay. Nay. Um, Rickenberger, Anderson, Cameron and [cough and clears throat] Baker um amendment fails. Back to the original um redlined edit [clears throat] from the MSV edit. Any further discussion? >> the question on the on the the hazing policy. Uh, Director Rickenberger calls to question. Um, all in favor say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? >> [cough] >> Okay, we'll move to vote on the the policy as presented in the board packet. All in favor of approving the redlined copy say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? No. Um, motion passes 4-2 with nays from Swanson and Thompson. Did I get that correct, everyone? Okay. Great. All right, moving on to um we do not have any consent agenda discussion items and sorry, I forgot to say at the beginning um we can discuss this at at our work session, but I put this I put the consent agenda discussion down here just to help us triage in the event we have things we want to pull from consent but aren't immediate or if we have a lot of speakers that day to help get that through and then we can return to it or decide to table it if like for example when we tabled these policies. Um, but if if if the board doesn't prefer that, we can discuss a different way to handle it. So that's why it's there. Um, board member reports. Anything to report? Yeah, Director Anderson. Uh, we had a lovely time at the Home and Garden Expo. Several of us were there. I wanted to thank Director Baker for bringing awesome activity that the kids loved. Um, so the sensory bottles were a big hit. And it was just great to see a lot of our students featured there and just our community members present. So thanks for all who attended. And thanks to Kim Olson for getting us prepped for the day. That was really nice. Thank you. >> Other updates? Director Baker. I just want to give a shout-out to the students that attended the Young Entrepreneurs section of the Home and Garden Show. I made several purchases at that location. An ice dyed tie-dyed shirt. I didn't know that was something that you can do, but that was really cool. Also spoke to some students that were making [snorts] their own stickers and just all kinds of creativity going on there and I love to see students sharing their passions. So if you didn't get a chance to check that out, it was it was a great addition and I know that um the Panda Program also has a Young Entrepreneurs section that they have the street fair. So another opportunity coming up. Great. Other updates? Um, I was able to attend the Community Ed Advisory a few weeks ago and the advisory spent bulk of the time looking at other districts program guide to see what what appealed to people, what people liked about ours, what they would change in an effort to improve our marketing for for the Community Ed offering booklets. And then last night I was at the Early Childhood Advisory. That group is just I mean all the all the advisories are great, but in particular this group of with young kids are rock stars. They had a silent auction in the last couple weeks where they raised over $5,000 for their program. So thanks if anybody donated to that and there's some really great prizes I hear like a wine party for 20 20 people as part of the silent auction. Um, and I think the big news over there is as we all know the the program is moving out for the summer to allow for renovations and so there's a lot of effort by the ECFE team and and early childhood to to get the space ready for renovations and the parent advisory is helping with those efforts. So thanks for that. Uh, with that I'll turn over to Superintendent Bomann for his report. Okay, just one item I want to share the advisory council application process opens April 6th through the 24th. So I was just want to highlight that as an opportunity for our Lakeville Area Schools families and students our staff and community members to get more involved and also to provide input and feedback for the district and our schools programs. I know there's lots of interest there. Our district has nine advisory councils covering a variety of essential topics available for participation which include finance teaching and learning, special education and wellness. Um, the application process for Lakeville Area Schools Advisory Council positions for 26-27 school year again opens the 6th through the 24th of April and you can go to ISD194.org to learn more about opportunities if you want to apply. So just want to share that with our Great. Thanks, Michael. All right. Um I'd like to entertain a motion to move to closed meeting pursuant to Minnesota statute 13D.05 subdivision 3A to evaluate the performance of an individual who is subject to the board's authority, which um is Superintendent Bauman. Um so with that is our motion to move to closed session. So moved. Uh first by Reichenberger. Is there a second? Second. Second by Swanson. All in favor say I. I. >> I. Any opposed? All right. We will move to closed session. So thanks everyone. We need to close the close the doors. I think we're just going to stay here.