[0:52] I call to order the March 6 2025

[0:55] Planning Commission meeting please join

[0:57] me in the flag pledge

[1:18] Miss Erikson will you please do a roll

[1:21] call of

[1:22] members Z here Tinsley here marovic here

[1:27] Zimmer here in here

[1:30] all right agenda item number three

[1:32] approval of minutes um approval of the

[1:35] February 20th 2025 Planning Commission

[1:37] meeting minutes any

[1:39] changes right and the meeting minutes

[1:41] will

[1:43] stand Tina any

[1:46] announcements the only thing is the um

[1:48] two items on the agenda um if they move

[1:51] forward um tonight they'll be on the

[1:53] March 17th Council

[1:55] agenda all right thank you and agenda

[1:59] item number five the spirit of Brandon

[2:01] Farms 25th

[2:05] edition

[2:07] um do I have to read thing so

[2:11] sorry no chair um we're just looking for

[2:13] a motion to table this item until the

[2:16] March 20th Planning Commission meeting

[2:18] at request of the applicant okay Madame

[2:21] chair yes I make a motion to table the

[2:24] spirit of branch and farm 25th edition

[2:26] preliminary PL PUD development stage

[2:29] plan an amendment to the spirit of

[2:31] branched Farm planned unit development

[2:33] to the March 20th to 2025 Planning

[2:37] Commission

[2:38] meeting second I have a motion and a

[2:41] second will you please do a roll call

[2:43] Vote or roll

[2:46] call Kinsley

[2:49] I I Zimmer I Han I susek

[2:55] I all right agenda item number six this

[2:59] is a public hearing to consider the

[3:00] application of isg Inc on behalf of opan

[3:04] for the preliminary plot of nine

[3:06] commercial lots to be known as

[3:08] Marketplace at Cedar and a conditional

[3:10] use permit to allow a lot without public

[3:13] Street Frontage and this is a public

[3:16] hearing so anyone wishing to speak on

[3:17] this item please make sure that you sign

[3:19] up in the back of the room and then here

[3:22] we have heat to give us a brief overview

[3:26] of the project

[3:32] good evening Pete Carbono uh op

[3:33] Investment Company I'm here with our

[3:37] engineer with isg um to answer any

[3:39] questions about the project or any

[3:40] technical questions about the plat as

[3:41] well okay thank

[3:50] you good evening Madam chair members of

[3:52] the Planning Commission my name is Dan

[3:54] lick I'm the city's planning consultant

[3:56] with the planning company uh working

[3:58] with uh community development director

[4:00] goodroad and planning manager Jensen on

[4:02] this application along with other City

[4:04] staff uh this is the marketplace at

[4:07] Cedar uh preliminary plat as the uh

[4:10] chair read uh there's also the

[4:11] conditional use permit uh for a lot

[4:13] without public Street Frontage and then

[4:15] as you'll see on the plat they're using

[4:17] shared internal access to access

[4:19] adjacent uh public streets property is

[4:22] located at the southeast corner of 179th

[4:26] Street County Road 9 and Cedar Avenue

[4:28] County Road 23

[4:30] adjacent to the property to the north is

[4:32] the crossroads commercial development uh

[4:34] to the east is the Cordelia Town Homes

[4:37] to the South is the Edison at avalene

[4:39] Avan Lee multiple family development as

[4:42] well as the parking ride facility and to

[4:44] the west across Cedar avenu is the

[4:46] central maintenance facility the city's

[4:49] 2018 or excuse me 2040 comprehensive

[4:52] plan guides the property for corridor

[4:54] mixed use development uh this land use

[4:56] was designated to provide for a

[4:58] combination of commercial retail service

[5:01] and office type uses together with

[5:03] multiple family housing in a compact

[5:05] Urban form that supports uh future

[5:08] Transit service along the Cedar Avenue

[5:10] Corridor uh so there's unique

[5:12] performance standards that go with this

[5:14] development as well as uh a range of

[5:17] uses Allowed by uh the zoning ordinance

[5:20] and corresponding to the land use

[5:21] designation the property is zoned uh

[5:24] mixed use Cedar Avenue Corridor 2

[5:28] District what's for the Planning

[5:30] Commission at this point is a

[5:31] preliminary plat subdividing the

[5:33] property uh into nine commercial Lots as

[5:36] well as uh four out lots for excuse me

[5:39] five out Lots three of which are for

[5:42] storm water purposes and then two out

[5:44] lots for future development uh the

[5:46] commercial Lots being platted all comply

[5:48] with the requirements of the M2 District

[5:50] in terms of minimum lot area and width

[5:52] uh the exception being Lot 8 does not

[5:54] have Frontage to a public Street as

[5:56] required by the zoning ordinance uh

[5:58] that's allowed to occur by conditional

[6:00] use permit the main thing the city is

[6:02] looking for there is that there's

[6:04] adequate uh provision put in place

[6:06] through Ingress egress easements and

[6:08] shared access uh to allow that lot to be

[6:11] accessed from uh the adjacent public

[6:13] streets this is a common arrangement in

[6:15] this type of commercial development and

[6:17] certainly uh appropriate for uh the form

[6:20] of development sought within the M2

[6:21] zoning District each of the Lots has the

[6:24] ability to accommodate a principal use

[6:25] in compliance with required setbacks uh

[6:28] the plat also provides for dedication of

[6:30] RightWay uh for future expansion of

[6:33] Cedar Avenue along the west side uh as

[6:35] well as internal RightWay for gland Shaw

[6:38] Avenue within the plat itself uh the

[6:40] plat provides for uh review by Dakota

[6:44] County as part of the County Road system

[6:46] adjacent to the property and you have

[6:48] their approval letter included as part

[6:50] of the report this evening plat provides

[6:52] for dedication of easements at the

[6:54] perimeter of each lot as well as over

[6:56] any storm water facilities or internal

[6:58] utilities that serve each of the Lots

[7:00] with sanitary sewer and water service as

[7:03] I mentioned there are the five outlots

[7:05] three of which uh storm water basins

[7:07] Outlets a b and c uh A and B will be

[7:11] privately maintained uh by the developer

[7:14] as through documents establishing cross

[7:18] ownership and maintenance of those uh

[7:20] outlot c will be deeded to the city as

[7:22] it handles runoff from the public

[7:24] streets uh outlots C or D and E are for

[7:28] again for future development likely

[7:30] multiple family housing or uh commercial

[7:33] development as allowed within the M2

[7:35] zoning District park dedication

[7:37] requirements apply to subdivision of the

[7:39] property those are established within

[7:40] the subdivision ordinance basically look

[7:43] at the uh 2015 Parks uh trails and open

[7:46] space plan and determine if there's a

[7:48] need for public park land in the area

[7:50] none is guided for this property so the

[7:52] developer will satisfy those

[7:54] requirements by payment of a cash fee in

[7:56] Le of land uh that is uh completed at

[7:58] the time of fin plat

[8:00] approval so the developers provided a

[8:03] site plan illustrating uh the potential

[8:05] buildout of each of the Lots within the

[8:07] development uh the uses that are shown

[8:10] are illustrative at this point and would

[8:12] be subject to Future application for

[8:13] site plan review as well as potential

[8:16] conditional use permit applications what

[8:18] they are showing does comply with the

[8:20] uses allowed within the M2 zoning

[8:22] District uh We've highlighted the shared

[8:24] internal private driveway that has

[8:26] access off of 179th Street and the North

[8:29] leg of this intersection of glanda

[8:31] Avenue uh to provide access to each of

[8:33] the Lots within the development that

[8:35] would also be overlaid by Ingress egress

[8:38] easement uh providing for shared

[8:40] maintenance and ownership of that and

[8:42] allowing access to each of the Lots uh

[8:44] within the development one of the

[8:46] cornerstones of the M2 district is uh

[8:48] provision of pedestrian access again

[8:50] reflecting that more compact Urban form

[8:52] that sought there are existing Trails

[8:55] adjacent to the property on the west

[8:56] north and east sides of the development

[8:59] there will be sidewalk on at least one

[9:01] side of gland Shaw Avenue uh accessing

[9:03] the property and then the site plan

[9:05] illustrates sidewalks connecting to

[9:07] those public ways to each of the

[9:09] principal buildings uh those will be

[9:11] reviewed those internal connections will

[9:13] be reviewed as each site plan progresses

[9:15] forward uh to ensure that those

[9:17] connections are made uh signage within

[9:19] the M2 district is limited uh each

[9:22] individual use is not allowed a

[9:24] freestanding sign again reflecting the

[9:26] desired development character they are

[9:28] allowed one

[9:29] freestanding uh area identification sign

[9:32] that can identify the entire development

[9:34] and specific uses within that and that's

[9:36] shown on the site plan they are showing

[9:39] initial Landscaping that would be

[9:40] required as part of the screening

[9:42] requirements of the zoning ordinance for

[9:44] development of the uses on the West Side

[9:47] uh or excuse me east side of the

[9:48] development uh to screen the uses across

[9:51] placea your way uh from uh the

[9:54] commercial activity within the site uh

[9:57] positive that that's being installed now

[9:58] because it will give it a chance to

[10:00] become established and uh form a more

[10:03] effective screening going forward as

[10:05] each of the sites are developed then I

[10:08] again talked about the uh storm water

[10:10] basins that will be subject to a storm

[10:12] water maintenance agreement as part of

[10:14] the final plat

[10:15] application engineering provided a

[10:18] memorandum uh outlining in their review

[10:20] of the application including utilities

[10:22] grading and drainage erosion control

[10:24] wetlands and overall storm water

[10:26] management uh they're also noted a

[10:28] specialist assessment related to uh

[10:30] Glacier way that needs to be satisfied

[10:32] as a condition of final plat approval as

[10:34] well engineering is recommending

[10:36] approval of the request City staff's

[10:39] overall recommendation for the

[10:40] applications is that the uses and the

[10:42] subdivision of the property is

[10:44] consistent with the recommendations of

[10:45] the comprehensive plan for future land

[10:47] use the plat complies with the

[10:49] requirements of the zoning ordinance and

[10:50] subdivision ordinance and we've also

[10:52] prepared findings a fact for

[10:54] consideration by the Planning Commission

[10:56] related to the conditional use permit

[10:58] our recommendation for approval is

[10:59] subject to the 15 conditions we outlined

[11:01] in the planning report from February

[11:05] 26 thank

[11:07] you this is a public hearing so anyone

[11:10] wishing to speak on this agenda item can

[11:12] please come

[11:24] forward my name is Diane Cunningham and

[11:26] I'm a resident of the Cordelia and this

[11:29] plan is right across from me so I'm a

[11:31] little concerned about what it's going

[11:33] to be um can you outlay or tell us what

[11:38] kind of commercial buildings would be in

[11:40] this

[11:42] site yeah we'll take all of your

[11:45] questions and then once the public

[11:46] hearing is closed then they'll answer

[11:48] okay and then the second uh question

[11:50] would be um would all what is the access

[11:54] to I'm trying to follow everything that

[11:56] was said but what is the access going to

[11:59] be be to this development I you know

[12:01] there's a lot of traffic already on

[12:03] Glacier so I'm just concerned about that

[12:07] those are my two questions okay thank

[12:20] you uh Madam chair seeing no other folks

[12:23] coming forward I would move to close the

[12:25] public hearing second I have a motion

[12:28] and a second all those in favor of

[12:30] closing the public hearing please

[12:31] signify by saying I I I Clos all right

[12:35] the public hearing is now closed um so

[12:38] the first question if you could share

[12:40] potentially with what will be in the

[12:46] development thank you um we're working

[12:48] with CBRE as our Brokers on this so

[12:51] they're uh looking across you know the

[12:53] country for users that want to come to

[12:55] the space right now um we are working

[12:57] with um a bank a grocer um a coffee a

[13:02] dental use um an oil change and a car

[13:06] wash and a daycare um and there's still

[13:08] room for uh two more users at the site

[13:11] as

[13:12] well and with regards to the traffic um

[13:15] we are completing and will be submitting

[13:18] um the required traffic study by

[13:20] County okay um could we bring up the

[13:24] where it shows the access to the

[13:27] location

[13:30] could we ask Mr was it carbona could you

[13:33] give that list again it was rather quick

[13:35] I want to make sure uh we had a all had

[13:38] a chance to write them

[13:40] down absolutely uh apologies for talking

[13:43] fast um we're working with a A Bank a

[13:46] coffee shop a dental user um a quick

[13:50] service restaurant a oil change a car

[13:53] wash a daycare and a grocer

[14:00] also one other quick question why you

[14:01] there those are all single story correct

[14:07] correct thank you madam chair so the

[14:11] site has two accesses to public streets

[14:14] uh the first being is a right in off

[14:16] 179th Street uh so people will not be

[14:19] able to exit the site to 179th street

[14:22] it's very similar to the Argon Village

[14:24] access near Wendy's um the plat also

[14:27] provides for construction of glanda way

[14:30] um off of Glacier way which leads into

[14:34] the second access to this development so

[14:37] all the traffic exiting the development

[14:39] needs to go south on glanda or east on

[14:43] glanda out to Glacier way to be able to

[14:45] access Glacier way has been constructed

[14:48] as a minor or as a collector street it's

[14:50] intended to accommodate traffic both

[14:52] from the adjacent residential uses as

[14:54] well as this U mixed use development

[14:57] going forward

[15:00] thank

[15:03] you uh fellow Commissioners any

[15:07] questions Adam chair I just have an

[15:10] additional question so if you are

[15:12] traveling

[15:14] westbound on the North side there you

[15:16] cannot take a left into there then right

[15:20] correct okay thank

[15:25] you I do have one question I'm not sure

[15:29] sure if it was said quite loud enough

[15:31] but um are they all on story buildings

[15:35] each of these buildings is likely to be

[15:36] one

[15:38] story obviously that'll be something

[15:40] that's presented at the time uh each

[15:43] site is identified as a

[15:46] user do we have any drive-throughs where

[15:48] we have to stack them up with two lanes

[15:51] potentially the uh uses in the center

[15:54] the two Quick Serve restaurants that are

[15:55] shown uh those would obviously require

[15:58] conditional use permits and would be

[16:00] back before the Planning

[16:08] Commission any other comments or

[16:15] questions think we're ready for a motion

[16:17] then uh Madam chair I'd make a motion to

[16:20] recommend to city council approval of

[16:21] the marketplace at Cedar preliminary

[16:24] plat and conditional use permit to allow

[16:28] a lotch without out public Street

[16:29] Frontage subject to the 15 stipulations

[16:32] listed in the February 26 2025 planning

[16:36] report second all right I have a motion

[16:39] in a second will you please take a roll

[16:43] call morovich I Zimmer I an i zuuk i

[16:49] Tinsley

[16:50] I all right uh best of luck on your

[16:54] project thank you uh agenda item number

[16:57] seven city of bill this is a public

[16:59] hearing to consider amendments to Title

[17:01] 11 chapter 23 zoning signs and signs of

[17:05] the city code Madam chair um so this

[17:09] item comes to the Planning Commission as

[17:11] a response and followup to a variance

[17:14] application that you previously

[17:15] considered for uh allowing additional

[17:18] sign wall signage for a medical clinic

[17:20] uh the Planning Commission generally

[17:22] didn't wasn't supportive of the variance

[17:24] approach um obviously when you're

[17:26] looking at the criteria for variance

[17:28] needing to related to natural conditions

[17:30] of the property it's difficult to find

[17:33] justification to approve a variance in

[17:34] that situation however what the Planning

[17:37] Commission was supportive of was looking

[17:39] at um alternatives to the current

[17:41] language within the ordinance now sign

[17:44] ordinances are adopted basically for two

[17:46] purposes uh mainly to eliminate visual

[17:50] pollution

[17:52] example um second and the purpose for

[17:55] that is to avoid visual distraction for

[17:58] motorists on adjacent roadways and

[18:01] enhance business identification make it

[18:03] easy to find what you're looking for uh

[18:06] might be hard to find that muffler shop

[18:08] on that street there um otherwise the

[18:10] other thing it does is provide for

[18:12] visual Aesthetics uh desired by the

[18:14] community so when we're looking at the

[18:16] number of wall sign or the wall sign

[18:18] regulations in the current zoning

[18:19] ordinance there's two areas of

[18:22] Regulation that we're focused on

[18:23] possible amending uh first is the number

[18:26] of signs allowed uh currently the zoning

[18:29] allows you one wall sign or two if you

[18:31] have a corner through lot and second the

[18:33] location where those signs are zoning

[18:35] ordinance currently says the sign needs

[18:37] to face a public Street um so are there

[18:40] options to look at that staying within

[18:42] the intent of the ordinance to U make

[18:45] modification give flexibility to

[18:47] businesses looking to uh locate within

[18:50] uh Lakeville and identify themselves um

[18:53] and then move forward with that now

[18:56] obviously what you have in your packet

[18:57] is a lot more more language than just

[19:00] that uh we kind of took a step back from

[19:02] this entire section and tried to write

[19:04] it uh more clearly so that it's easier

[19:07] to find information and easier for

[19:09] people to uh understand just looking at

[19:11] it online versus needing to contact City

[19:14] staff so as I said the current uh

[19:16] allowances are for interior Lots one

[19:18] sign facing the public street corner or

[19:21] through Lots get two signs uh then

[19:23] there's limits by District so uh as the

[19:26] intensity of the district moves higher

[19:29] the more signage is allowed uh over time

[19:31] the city also made a number of

[19:33] amendments to the sign ordinance

[19:34] regulations to accommodate more signage

[19:37] for larger users like grocery stores or

[19:40] industrial buildings of certain sizes um

[19:42] we basically carried that language

[19:44] forward um or the allowances forward in

[19:47] the same form same area U but tried to

[19:50] streamline the language somewhat so what

[19:53] we're proposing here is to not limit the

[19:56] number of signs basically allow the same

[19:58] area and let the business decide how

[20:00] best they need to allocate that for

[20:02] their purposes uh also to allow

[20:04] flexibility that these signs could be

[20:06] located on any wall that they choose

[20:08] provided it doesn't face a residential

[20:09] district I think if you drive down

[20:11] Kenwood Trail you can see how certain

[20:14] businesses as you're driving the

[20:15] corridor if they had a side facing sign

[20:18] they'd be as visible as the front-facing

[20:20] sign so this gives a little additional

[20:23] flexibility looking at the Midwest ENT

[20:25] example uh that you previously looked at

[20:28] the zoning ordinance would allow

[20:30] currently the two signs in green the

[20:32] address sign and the central

[20:33] identification sign and none of the

[20:36] additional uh signs that were proposed

[20:38] to help identify what other professions

[20:41] are in that same Clinic uh to provide

[20:43] greater identification to potential

[20:46] users the ordinance as proposed would

[20:48] allow the signs as originally proposed

[20:51] by the business uh again they would also

[20:54] because this is a corner lot be allowed

[20:56] to sign or signs on the east side of

[20:58] their building as well U but for

[21:01] Illustrated purposes this accomplishes

[21:03] the same outcome as the variants would

[21:05] have but applies that same flexibility

[21:07] broadly across all commercial and

[21:10] Industrial zoning districts within the

[21:12] city so City staff is recommending

[21:15] approval of the ordinance as presented

[21:17] uh we're improving uh business

[21:19] identification uh benefiting those uh

[21:21] Property Owners within the city

[21:23] providing greater flexibility in

[21:25] applying the ordinance to these

[21:27] properties we're still maintaining Ming

[21:28] the same limit on the total area of

[21:30] signs within the city so we feel that's

[21:33] consistent with the intent of the sign

[21:35] regulations to uh avoid visual

[21:37] distraction and maintain Community

[21:38] Aesthetics and again uh the intent to

[21:41] make the ordinance easier for people to

[21:43] use uh for their signage uh purposes so

[21:47] again the recommendation is for approval

[21:49] of the application or

[21:51] amendments thank

[21:53] you and this is a public hearing so

[21:55] anyone wishing to speak on this agenda

[21:57] item can please come forward

[22:07] Madam chair yes I make a motion to close

[22:09] the public

[22:10] hearing second I have a motion in a

[22:13] second all those in favor of closing the

[22:14] public hearing please signify by saying

[22:16] I I all opposed all right the public

[22:19] hearing is now

[22:22] closed um oh

[22:25] Commissioners questions comments my only

[22:28] question Madam chair uh when we talked

[22:31] about it so you're saying that signage

[22:33] for the the Midwest EMT the

[22:36] example if we didn't allow all those

[22:39] extra signs would their Midwest ENT sign

[22:42] be able to be

[22:43] bigger more font okay all right just

[22:46] wanted to be clear yeah Madam chair they

[22:49] would have been allowed 150 square feet

[22:51] of sign yeah thank you I remember when

[22:54] they were here they had kind of said

[22:55] they could take all of them and put it

[22:57] in one big one but do appreciate the the

[23:00] change to it because I think

[23:02] aesthetically like this is much better

[23:04] than if they would have like put it all

[23:05] in one giant

[23:07] sign so I think I think it's

[23:10] great then Mr like as far as you know

[23:14] not limiting having an unlimited number

[23:16] of signs is really limited by the space

[23:19] correct Perfect The Madam chair the um

[23:23] user will have to balance how small they

[23:26] can make the signs by the number number

[23:28] so it's again gives them the flexibility

[23:31] to

[23:33] determine thank

[23:42] you madam chair I make a motion to

[23:46] recommend to the city council approval

[23:48] of the proposed amendment to section 11

[23:52] 23-9 of the zoning ordinance of the city

[23:56] code second I have a motion in a second

[23:59] you please take a roll

[24:02] call simmer i m hi hi Kinsley or

[24:11] roage all right that is our last agenda

[24:14] item so with that the meeting is aded

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