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October 21st, 2025 Pine Island City Council Regular Meeting

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This will be the pledge of allegiance. Please rise again. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one indivisible with justice for all. All right. So, we're going to be starting tonight's hanging with u our pillars program. And this is something that we uh was started by my predecessor and I was very very excited to continue this because it's the one night of the year that we as a city or as mayor uh am I'm able to go out and recognize people in this community to go above and beyond service uh to our county. And this is something that I've been able to do since 2020. And it's and it's exciting because some a lot of these people they don't do things for any glory. They do it because they want to and they do it because it's the right thing to do this week. And in the past we've recognized businesses and we recognize organizations. We recognize individuals. So tonight we're going to be recognizing some individuals to organizations and uh so we're going to get the ball started. So, I'm hoping um you can join in congratulating these people with me as they join this year's class of pillars of the community. And so, our first um people tonight, they've been active in the Pine community for many years and are recognizable in our volunteer circles. Mike and Nadia have shown what it means to give to the town through their tire tireless work in their church and the nonprofit organizations. Uh notably they are champions in the lions club here in town promoting the organization through their years of service. The lions have tirelessly given to the community of pineon above and beyond. Uh their involvement with the school is also known to many in addition to their years of service with Pineon Lions Club. Mr. Lundy has served on committees with the city along with her time on the city council. Uh Mrs. money can be often times spun with her camera in hand going around the community uh capturing moments of Pine Island history and she does she's also taken on the tradition and I commend her for this uh doing our photo for the fire department and if you know the fire department she uses her teacher skills to get everybody together so we appreciate that and it's a tradition that can be found going all the way back to the 1930s so we appreciate her willingness to help carry that tradition on to them. I say thank you and it's time that you are recognized for your service. 1981 right there. Thank you. All right, this next one, it uh it's been a few years. Um his name has come up and I'm excited to be able to do this, not only because um he's a member of this community, but he's my father as well. For years, he's been active in both his local church and in the city government. Mr. Grant Freeze. My father has served in many capacities at Cornerstone Baptist Church, formerly known as the Pine Baptist Church through many, many years of youth leadership, as well as being a Sunday school teacher in a dean and a treasure. He has led for many years efforts to raise funds for mission projects in Southeast Asia and a lot of those projects were done here in PA and surrounding areas. And he has also been very faithful in visiting our elderly impound where he can be found engaging them whether it's in games and conversations or a lot of laughter and to this day he has stepped up in many times to ensure that someone needing help with errands or visits or resources that they receive the support that they need to thrive. Uh he has served on the city council for several terms and has continued to serve Pine Island on the plan and zoning board. Uh he has also served with the Pineon Area Historical Society ensuring that our local history and identity is preserved for generations to come. Each year uh Miss Freeze has led the annual primary supper for the fire department and that's something that um each year they look forward to letting our local firefighters know that they are appreciated for the work in this community. Our next recipient is Mr. Grant Freeze. [Music] Thank you. >> All right. This next one about Cave. She's been she's been a pillar of this community long before the mayor's office started the pillars of the community awards. Miss Graham Connie Saer has shown community dedication spirit for years beginning back with the participation as a pine cheerleader. Known for her acrobatic abilities and stories do come down. She's also uh she later went on to serve on the Methodist church um with the Methodist church church council leading the decision of the ministry. She was also the face of Sword and Suns plumbing and heating working as a bookkeeper for many many years uh for nearly 65 years actually. To this day she continues as an active member with the Pine Legion Auxiliary. It's an organization that truly drives this community with their work at the Legion. Miss Connie was known for her work with bingo events at Pinehaven Care Center and during Pine Island's annual cheese festival. She could be sing for many years organizing and serving the monthly meals for the Pine Island Chamber of Commerce meetings held at the Legion Hall. And she continues to actively participate as the treasure for the auxiliary. To her we say thank you and for many for her many years of service to Pine and it's finally time she is recognized for her service. Miss Graham, you say it again. So all right, next recipient. He is the youngest recipient of this year's pillars of the community. Uh Mr. Evan Evan Gorson has shown a true spirit of community service. From a young age, this young man has been willing to help our senior members of Pineon. Whether it's through lawn care, assisting them with technology, uh playing games with them, or simply giving them an ear to listen. He has been an active member of the Boy Scouts organization for many years and continues to assist their organization and leader. He's still teaching and being the next generation of scouts. He's been an active member of the Pine Island Fire Department, assisting with projects surrounding the age friendly network. This past year, Evan has helped to lead the efforts to revitalize the independent order of bod fellows here in Pine Island and an organization dedicated to community service and looking out for the most vulnerable in our communities. With his help, I has once again risen to active status with Evan's leadership, and he's always looking out for those in this community that might need a little extra help. for that he has earned this year's one of the pillars of the community awards. Congratulations to Abby War this next one I was I was very very excited to be able to recognize. Uh it's a unique group and it's and it's actually grown in some popularity among area mayors when you talk to them. It's a new group to Pine Island. This student led organization has truly taken off in their efforts to preserve our natural resources in the Pine Island area. In fact, I look forward to the Roots and Shoots Environmental Club's future projects and seeing what they can come up with as an organization. Over the past year, a project that was a hidden gem has started to come out as Pine Island's nature clay trail and is quickly being recognized as a regionally unique area. Pine Island students led by their teacher Megan Shim created a space that inspires outdoor exploration, creativity, and a love for nature. It's a hands-on environment that promotes natural play elements, and it's open to everyone. And I enjoy being able to take my friends, kids down there. It's a very very neat area. Our school district is preparing young leaders and I trip my cap to Miss Shimick and our students in the Roots and Shoots Club by moving our community in the right direction. A true thank you from our city. Roots and Shoots, you're our next recipient. Let me give me this. If you haven't been down there, I highly recommend it. And they got some I'll put a plug in there. They are going to be doing a new project, I believe, and going to be looking for some donations. So, >> always >> That's right. Some Terra toys. I got to find those somewhere. So they are a group of servicemen and women that deserve our utmost appreciation, respect, and gratitude. The Vietnam War was fought from 1955 to 1975, driven by political policy surrounding the theory of the domino effect on communism. With a little over 8.7 million US combat troops involved in the war, the conflict took the lives of around 1.3 million combatants, 58,220 of them US troops. To date, there remains around 1,600 soldiers listed as MIA P. The Vietnam War left a deep impression on the American psyche, especially our troops, which makes this group, our Vietnam veterans groups here in Pine Island, all that more important to support one another and to remind the public that they are still here. They were our soldiers and they give us so much to in service to our country. They are now veterans with many still battling PTSD along with the effects of Asian horns. And we see that here locally. In 1982, the Vietnam War Memorial was erected in Washington DC to commemorate the sacrifice of many during this war. We finally have a memorial started here at home to remind this community of the many residents of our own who served from Pine with some never coming home. This memorial is a direct effort of the members of the Pine Vietnam veterans. and on behalf of this community and as mayor, you have our true thanks. Our next recipient is the Pan Vietnam veterans. As a local leader at the Pal American Legion, Mr. Parr has promoted the efforts and work of the Legion, ensuring that our military veterans are served and remembered. He served as a member of the Army from 1977 to 2009, serving the capacity of the federal law enforcement officer. And at the Pine Island Legion, Mr. Parr has become the gambling manager. He he became the gambling manager in addict on January 1st, 2020. Since his time in Pine Island, Mr. Parr has assisted and volunteered with his sons, the American Legion Burger Feeds, which raised funds for the Legion Hall. Stepping in for events to help set up and tear down the Legion Hall. And if you know the group up there, he has to use his law enforcement skills sometimes to keep them wrangled in. And of times, you can find him stepping in to help with basic daily operations of the Legion barn facilities. and said one of the members of the Legion, Jerry is always willing to help and donate funds to the youth sports programs in the Pine Island area. He has worked with multiple youth sports within the Pine Island to help raise money for their programs and ensure that they receive the the support that they need. And he's always looking out for the betterment of our veterans programs and finding out what they might need for support. And for that, our final pillar of the community tonight is Mr. Jerry Par. So, we had one more specific to give out of something I was excited to uh be able to do as mayor. there. Um, but we have an individual that has worked with the community now going on 20 years and his anniversary is actually this month and he is an absolute bulldog in the legal world and Pine Island is truly truly fortunate to have him serve our community in the capacity that he does. and he was not expecting this tonight, but he is still going to be um presented with a certificate on behalf of the city and a a true thank you for the work he has done. He has helped us through many trials and tribulations and he is always and I can say this from a personal note, he is always looking out for the betterment of this community and protecting Pine Island and its residents. And so we have one more award to give out tonight to Mr. Robert Bose and a thank you on behalf of Pine Island. So come on up. And that concludes our pillars for 2025. So you are more than welcome to stay for council meeting tonight if you'd like. other like take moment to uh escape, you're more than welcome to do that as well. So, we just have to do some rearranging and we'll get down to business. >> Congratulations. Thanks so much. [Music] We didn't have a point or anything. against Move to the consent agenda and we are going to be I'm going to make a request that we can pull item E from the consent agenda and put it under administration. >> Move to move to the administration. >> I'll second that. >> Motion a second to move item E which are request to approve growth security post from incentive down to administration. Motion is second. Delana. >> Hi. >> Holton. >> Hi. >> Burning. >> Hi. >> Brandy. Hi. >> Our consent agenda tonight includes the September 16th, 2025 regular council meeting minutes. October 7th, 2025 council workshop meeting minutes. October 8th, 2025 special council meeting minutes. Request to approve MIDI co-op agreement amendment. Request to approve IA safety proposal. Pine Island American League and Bingo permit request for the pumpkin luminary trail at trailhead park on October 28th and a request to approve county prosecution contract agenda. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion and a second on the consent agenda. Any other discussion? We have the Lamb. >> I Colton. >> Vernon. >> Randy. >> Hi. >> And David is I. And then we are going to move into public input. We have two presenters tonight. Um or do we have any written correspondence? >> We uh the second item on the agenda is actual written correspondence as well. So there's two written correspondence in the packet and then we have uh one individual who has signed the public. >> Okay, Mr. Lannard. >> Yes. All right. We'll call Mr. Lanner right up. >> No. >> Yes, sir. My wife understood while I was waiting for that. I understood I had two minutes. >> Yep. >> Yes, sir. >> I can't talk that fast. >> I wrote the speech and my wife has been absolutely >> welcome back. Thank you. >> We'll give you at 2:30 because the clock's already set at 2:30. >> Okay. >> Thank you. Now, >> good evening everyone. I would like to share my perspective on the proposed pine island skyway dev center project. A major developer has approached our city promising economic benefits that when examined closely seem misleading and incomplete. Our residents have raised genuine concerns. Yet many have been unfairly accused spreading misinformation. It is critical that our city leaders listen to these voices conduct thorough research and learn from similar situations in other communities. Across the United States, over 4,000 data centers are in varying stages of development. Yet, non-disclosure agreements often keep vital information hidden from local citizens. Before signing any contracts, we must demand a transparent and comprehensive cost benefit analysis along with a real impact assessment supported by factual debt. Let us consider the potential consequences. First resource strain. Project Skyway could consume up to 55.7 million gallons of water annually, about half of our city's current usage, and its electricity demand could be a 100 times greater than what we use now. This could require new substations, strain our grid, raise utility costs, and even risk outages. Second, the environmental impact. data centers generate substantial noise and light pollution affecting neighborhoods and wildlife. The city's environmental review is already being challenged in court for not fully addressing these impacts. Third, economic risk. While jobs and increased tax revenue are promised, most positions will be temporary or limited. Long-term benefits may not materialize, especially if local inf infrastructure costs rise. Property values could drop due to increased noise, traffic, or environmental degradation. Fourth, transparency and public trust. When critical information is withheld, it erodess trust and leads to legal challenges. As we are seeing now, have the precedent. Nearby towns have rejected similar proposals due to undesolved concerns. Approving this project without thorough analysis could endanger our small communities. In closing, I urge our leaders to pause and ensure both officials and the public are being fully informed before any decisions are made. Please listen to the president. We deserve to be heard. Thank you. We'll move on to administration which item a we are going to request to approve the archaeological assessment for the trail head park rank. >> Yes. >> Taking this one. >> Yes, Mr. Mayor. Um well this is a the request to use the wig set for the archaeological assessment for um Charlotte Park. This is for the DNR grant that the city um was awarded and so it was looking through the grant contract currently. This is one of the steps that needs to be completed uh for us in the project. This will be an action item. >> Request to approve an archaeological assessment for the childhood park grant. >> I'll second it. >> Have a motion and a second. Any questions? Getting one step closer park there. So good. Delena. >> Hi. >> Hton. >> Hi. >> Vernon. >> Hi. >> Brandy. >> Hi. >> And David Roby. Hi. Which brings us to item B which the request to approve the AT&T first net as a wireless provider. This is some good read. >> Yes. So this is something we've been working for through for a few months and so currently the city is a Verizon wireless or a wireless cell phone provider. Um as many know the Verizon wireless power uh has been continuously going down. Typically, that's not a huge deal except all of our SCADA alarms go to public works cell phones um for our treatment plant. So, if there's anything wrong with the plant, so if the um tower has been going down, then public aren't receiving those alarms um and uh aren't are they don't know that there's an alarm going off at one of the list stations for the treatment plant. And so, um, I had a quite a few conversations with AT&T and we've looked into their FirstNet, uh, which is a, uh, service separate from AT&T that was run through AT&T and essentially it's an awarded contract through, um, the federal government. And this is a service that is only for first responders and critical um, staff. And so, our public works department following that. I've also had conversations with the fire department because we do have uh mobile hotspots and mobile iPads that go in the fire trucks as well. That is on our plan and uh the fire department is in full support to switch as well. In the event of a um any kind of incident around Con Island, the cell phone powers are jamming because of people using them. Uh anyone on the first map network would have to be overrated their cell phone users. And so I do think it is critical for our fire department and public work staff to be on that network. In addition, this would open up uh firefighters to they would have the option on a personal cell phone plan. They would qualify to also be under the first network if they still choose on personal cell non city issued cell. And so the price comparison currently the city pays between 613 613 and $614 each month. Um the quote came in at uh just under $640. So it was a slight increase each month. However, I feel for the service that we'd be getting with FirstNet um would be far superior. Uh first net is is made by first responders for first responders. They also offer um mobile hotspots, mobile units. They have trucks that we can dispatch. If we were to ever to have an emergency management situation, we can dispatch a truck here to ensure that we have all capabilities. >> Does it require any qualification? >> Uh, no. So, we would if if council chooses to switch, uh, they would be on site. So, all staff would qualify for free phones essentially. So, how government plans work is we we have free phones and then, um, we have free upgrades each year. That's how we have it with Verizon as well. And so um AKG staff would be on site to uh see the change over and there would be no additional cost for the initial um >> yeah cell phones. So and for the fire department we are looking um instead so currently through Verizon we have mobile iPads what we're looking to go through um first net are um they're essentially mobile hotspots and but this gives us the capability of they can use it's not limited to just the data enabled iPad um so then we could save money in the future because instead of replacing that enabled iPads we can use different tablets and then we would have mobile hotspots this tape in the >> shop of the 183 provider contract all second motion a second request any other discussion or questions for Elizabeth be nice to make sure we have that access when it's needed there so >> hearing none Delena >> Ion I >> Brandy, >> hi >> David will be I thank you for your work on that pile which will bring us to item C which is going to be um quick update on Grovei there. Sorry. >> Yes. So the reason I asked to take this consent agenda will be to this work session. Uh this is essentially the phase two implementation of um implementing cameras throughout our city facilities in our parks and tracks area. Um we do have an updated vote uh for the chief factory door which needs to be replaced to an industrial door for the security um access to be enabled. There's one quote here from um Gy Builders and then we are expecting another quote from the laundry and so I am asking to approve the quote on whichever quote or approve um the request with whichever quote is last so we haven't yet. So we're still waiting on that. Um, so we wouldn't approve anything until we get that quote and we can go the lowest uh quote for the door. And then there is a summary of the cameras. So there' be one additional camera at the cheese factory, two cameras at the library, two cameras at home park, two cameras at park, and one camera um at the shop. So these are all our high areas of either customer service transaction or We need separate multiples for that. >> No, we can approve it uh with the um as long as that and the sales which are durable. >> Um I'll move the request to approve the phase two for the cameras and the door dependent on motionless. I would like to add that uh this would be coming out of the unrestricted fund 250 and so those are not taxpayer dollars. Those are funds that the city has received through either land transactions or property. Motion a second on the quote including approval for the new door pending lower. Um any other questions when hopefully within the next week? Yeah, hopefully that didn't end. We're very happy to have Jason. >> Okay, perfect. Questions, discussion hearing. None would vote. Delena. >> Hi, Hton. >> Hi, M. >> Hi, >> Brandy. >> Hi. >> And David will be I would be nice. >> All right. So, thank you. We're going to jump into planning commission. We have nothing listed under planning commission. So we'll move on to public works engineering and bring up item a request to approve vessel quotes for the wastewater treatment bar. Are you bringing this one up? >> Anyway, um you read that we had some issues with monitor. So we got these it's kind of a specialized deal. So getting a lot of quotes doesn't work. So um the person basel for the bar screen um that's a total of $27,798.75 approval move on that project. It's kind of hodge podge right now. So, and then the second one is in our bar street from Newfeld on the Redwing for $3,651.30 fix. Um, it got pretty good. Got hung up on ledge though. pretty bad. It needs to be replaced. These guys specialize in that done some work for the floor. So, just look for your approval. Move on with these projects. >> Yeah. >> So, we're going to have so we'll do the bar stream first and then the clarify repair second >> on that one. So, the first one's going to be for that vessel. And what um >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So this would be an unfunded purchase. However, it would come from um reserve funds essentially. So because this is non uh plan maintenance. And so typically for something this large, we would seek two or more quotes. However, because this is a specialized item, um we we don't have to Um I request to approve the so motion a second on the first item which will be the bar screen. Any other questions for Todd and it's pretty straightforward on need so we can keep them running. So >> all right hearing none Elena. >> Hi >> Colton. Hi >> I Brandy. >> Hi >> David will be I and he did introduce us to the for the clarifier repair. So that arm >> present. Any questions on that? Art >> hearing. None. Elena. >> Hi. >> Holton. >> Hi. >> Burns. >> Hi. >> Brandy. >> Thank you. >> All right. I think you're going to be next public hearing street. Good evening. And also I'm just turn back to you. Uh but uh hello my name is Freddy Griffin. I'm a civil engineer with Lisa, city engineer island. And uh so tonight we are holding the public hearing for a possible uh 2026 street project uh that uh that we're proposing. And uh the purpose of tonight's meeting is to run through the project area with you um talk about the uh city's assessment policy and how that uh affects the properties and then to give you an idea of private costs um for uh for the upcoming project and and the possible assessment that would be placed on the on the property. So we have a short presentation here for you. I'll try to get through it quickly. Uh one thing like I mentioned purpose of tonight's meeting of the costs and the implications of the assessments. But um knowing that we have follow room, we want to talk a little bit of the construction um process as well. Uh we'll also be holding some design uh meetings here throughout the uh winter. We'll probably have a couple of them. Uh so those will be a little more informal. We'll get everyone in the in the room. We can point plans and talk a little bit about how we are probably getting affected. So um so we'll just uh run through this here and again when I get through here council will be considering a resolution for um to authorize the plans and specifications we started on the on the project. So that'll be following the public once. So, um, tonight's agenda again, we'll just go through the, uh, project areas. We'll talk a little bit about the schedule, uh, the reconstruction process in general, uh, what you can expect, um, during the construction time frame, and then talk about costs and the assessments, and then we'll be the public hearing where we'll we'll gather them to go to. Uh, so the project areas are have been identified. This is um an ongoing capital improvement program that the city has been uh undertaking. So many of you on Third Street Southwest and First Avenue Southwest that have been surrounded by previous projects, but uh uh these are a couple of the blocks that are our proposed support um to be included in the 26 project. Uh next we have Second Street, Southeast Main Streets and school. Then North Street from Center Street up to second street. So right by Quro and there. And then Willow Circle is the other area that's identified. Now with Main Street and Willow Circle, there are a couple county projects that are upcoming that are planned. Um so that's another reason why these are included. Um community project area. U so county is planning the replacement of county the county 3 bridge here in 26. So it'll be this upcoming summer and um uh this area does not currently have sewer and water service to it. So we look to extend the sewer and water services from 1 Avenue southwest down 8 street and then uh south county 3 against the will circle and then with a street uh county the ocean county um public works is planning a um reconstruction was more of a resurfacing project on main streets where they would have a traffic surf on 11 and so that's why that area is not patched like the other areas but that is um that's planned the 27th. Uh so the thought is for us to uh replace the sewer and water before they get there. Uh we can go to servicing down and then give you finish up the work in uh in 27. Okay. So um uh this the special assessment process is outlined in Minnesota state statute chapter 429 and u and so we follow the process that they they outline there. Uh this is the initial hearing that we'll have on the assessments and then we'll also have a final hearing uh when majority instruction has been completed if the council decides to move forward with the touch. So again we're very early in the process. We have completed the feasibility study. That's where we outlined we identified the project areas and then um put estimated cost to that project and then um an estimated amount of assessments for the properties. So we're uh tonight we're holding the hearing. So we're there council decides to move forward with it and passes the resolution then we'll move be moving on design and then uh looking at possible construction for 26 that'd be finished up in 27 and then the final hearing would be at the end of next year so probably in October of next year and then the project close out uh that following that following year. So, this would be a proposed uh reconstruction project and which would mean that we would replace all of the surfacing items. Uh so, curvy gutter, if you have it, um patunious, pavement, sidewalks, driveways, all of that would be replaced. And we'd also be replacing underground utilities. So, sanitary sewer, water man, storm sewer, and we'd be running new services out uh from the main lines in the street to the right lines. And then we'd be restoring the uh the served areas with turf establishing um seed or like they saw. So those are some details that we we still need to work out to design. Uh so with the reconstruction process um you know we start off with removables uh but before any of that happens the mail boxes would be um put into like a cluster of mailboxes move to the end of the street so they be out the mail various ways. Um so mail delivery will be to a mailbox such as that. Um the garbage is something that has u used to be a little bit of a challenge during the construction projects. Uh but there contractor will identify some areas where you can bring dusters if you're not able to bring them down there or your trash cans and they will um help move those for you as well. Um they will start with a temporary installation of uh water um lines to your house and uh connecting those so that way you have uh for the most part continuous water service uh throughout the duration of the project. Uh there will be some times where we'll have some interruptions and some scheduled water but there will also be some times where it's just expecting something or you may have some interruptions that way. So try to give you as much focus as we can on that. But um um and then they'll start with the underground utilities and they place some of those. Uh that is uh a bit of a process. First they'll come through to dig in the sanitary sewer, water that back up, dig in the water man, cover that back up, and then dig in the storm sewer and then the or services first and then the storm sewer. So they actually dig in the street four different times, which seems like a lot. Um but that is the they get all the elevations in the with all the pipes in the street. So, um and then they'll once they get done with sections of roadway, they'll end up uh taking out the uh excess material and then putting it back down for the road base. uh concrete work will follow together driveways, sidewalks and then the two pavement and seating back. So um we have um this is just kind of a I guess a diagram picture of what the mailbox mailboxes look like. They're only in the group being on the street. Yeah. shelves and trash cans I guess. Um so uh we you know we'll again we'll ask we'll identify some areas for that and then um and then the contractor will will assist as uh the the removal start with tree removals. Now we do try to keep as many trees um on the project as we can and try to um we look at uh elevations that are how close they are to utilities that may get disturbed. If the root systems are going to be disturbed, they it may come down. So um even though it looks like there is a tree that might maybe be behind the sidewalk, it might be right in the line of the utility trench. So you may need to take those those out. So, we'll identify those and and contact you before those come out. But, uh, again, our first attempt is to try to keep those in place. Um, and then the contractors will come in and start removing the surface. That's photo that's on the right. Um, there'll be some elevation changes. This is down by Massage Place down there where we have some uh retaining walls. So um we again design we'll have to work that area out and decide if we're going to be able to keep that retaining wall that's in place or need to replace it. So uh some of those design details like that we'll be talking about at the upcoming weeks. Uh these are some pictures of the temporary water lines getting strong. Um they screen this blue poly line. It's a plastic line that they connect services to. So again, that's the mainly keep your water service project. Um these are some trenches for automated the items is going in. Um you can see they're pretty deep trenches there. Um and then there's some water pipe that's being installed as well. Uh storm sewer and sanitary are shown here. And again quite enough the sanitary is that more product than storm sewer. Uh but each of those again will be dug in separately. Uh service lines will go in. The green pipe on the left is a sanitary line that goes from main line out to the right way. And then water lines are 1 in copper line that gets extended from to the property. the street work um starts happening and so they'll uh compact the subgrade or the the ground aggregate is placed. Uh sometimes they do need to farm that or airate the areas if it's too wet. So um it might look like they're getting close to placing the rock, but then they come back and dig everything up. That's the picture on the left. That just means you're trying to get that area dried up so it be packed and and be a safer base uh for the acre and then concrete work will follow with curve gutter um the sidewalks and then finally the the tumous pavement getting close to the end of construction and then turf. So we tried or not tried we've done both we have seated uh we seated on the last street project prior to that we mostly sad but that is getting very expensive so but there are some advantages of placing sading as well so so we'll kind of look at overall project cost and where they land that make a determination There all are also some gas lines um and power lines that are um sometimes replaced as part of the project. Those are um really not city driven. Those are the separate utility companies are are the ones installing those lines. We try to coordinate with them as much as we can. Um but we have to have the city's contract with them really out of their way before they before they to put their lines in. So, uh, but that's another um another utility that can go in that kind of be disruptive to the project, but there's also a need. So, as far as the assessment policy goes, the city assesses in four different categories um with water, sanitary, urban gutter, and the servicing. The water man and sanitary sewer are uh based on front footage only. And uh when we talk front footage and sideyard footage, uh the front yard footage is always the shorter side and the sideyard is the long side. So if you're a corner block, it doesn't matter how your what your address is, where where you have your driveway access, we always use a short side because those are assessed at a higher rate than side. So it's an advantage to the residents that have the frontage the uh uh the short side. Those are assessed again on the front yard basis and those are at a 7030 split for residential mean the city picks up 70% of the cost of of the water and sewer and the city or and the residents pay 30%. For commercial it's 5050. So that is the uh that's a split for the watering and sanitary for the curb and gutter. If you are if you have herb that's in place right now, it's uh based on um 100% on the front yard and 50% on the side yard. And that's at a 7030 splits as well for uh residential and 50/50 for um if if you don't have gutter like the little work area there um you would pay for 100% of the work cost. That's the basic students assessment policy. The street and surfacing is also based on 100% for the front yard, 50% sideyard, and that's at a 7030 split for residential, 50/50 for commercial. The sidewalk or any paths uh those are paid for 100% by the city and not assessed by the resident. And that's the same as the storm sewer. sewer is fate by the the city. The overall project cost is just a little under 4 million. So this is an estimated amount of 3,981,4460. Of that the city will be paying a little over 3.3 million and the residents would be estimated for around 670,000 of the overall project cost. the for new curb the the estimated cost for residential is about $225 per foot for the front and then half of that is 60 well it's less than half of that because water is only assessed on the front yard ends up being around $65 a foot on the side and you can see the commercial rates are double for replacing curb it's uh close to $200 a foot um that's $198 foot and then sag is 50 And then the commercial is again. So these are estimated months. We'll know once we get into design and get some of the side elements more determined then we'll we'll be able to come up with a better estimate um on the assessments too. Uh quickly the uh the city will determine the terms of the uh payback of the assessments at the final assessment hearing. But typically we've done in that four to five to five and a half% range over 15 years. So I know sometimes meal service isn't the most um viable and so um hopefully each of you received the mail here for the meeting tonight. If you did not uh please let me know. I have a list that will be sent to. So, um just be nice to coordinate a little bit with the the postal service on on meeting. Um again, we'll be get we'll be sending a certified letter for the final assessment, but again sometime in October. Um we'll also have some uh email blasts that go off the city's website information and there different ways that we can uh stay in contact with you throughout the project. U these so the next few slides are just um looking at the condition of some of the u some of the utilities uh that are underneath the street. So uh just to give an idea of why these areas were identified as essential reconstruction project. So the these are sanitary sewer lines um and uh you can see these are old clay lines that have just chunks of nesting. It's all broken up and uh it's very calcified in there as well. So restricts the flow of something to the sewer. Um these are some roping pipe that are that are showing up into that's um obviously not good for a lot of reasons but that can we seep into the uh into the ground but it also creates weak spots and pipe for voids to occur and potential collapse of the sewer. And just some more more pictures of misaligned joints and some logit. [Music] These are some of the manholes in the area where they're just not muted around their properly. Um allows for some inflow and infiltration in the area, especially in the main street area. You know we got a lot a lot of eye issues there where ground water is getting into the sanitary sewer system going to the plants and that is being treated and uh so that's also cost to eliminate this much of that these are a couple storm structures that um where the block is falling in just so this is my contact information here you can always reach in the city if you have any followup questions and I will be here as well if you have any. So with that my presentation turn over there question. Davidson. >> Um, if anybody has questions or comments regarding the project for Craig right now, it's an opportunity for you to ask if you'd like um from the public. Yes, sir. Um, question. It's not about the microphone. Thank you. When I saw the materials, I did not have a question about costs. What I do have a question about is uh the environmental effects on my property in particular. I stand to lose the tree, which shades my lawn and makes life a lot better. I stand loses the portion of my lawn if they move it back 15 feet to put in the sidewalk. and I have insurance that there are streets that were improved that didn't get sideways. I want to know what those exclusions were for and how I so that's what we're talking about for me. I'm concerned about those things. Absolutely. Now that will get out conversations as the projects moving forward. So no feedback and that's what they want to hear. Yeah, street. And that brings me to the CD first street. Absolutely. >> Oh, thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> I do have a question about um the assessments. I live on the little circle and we our culde-sac has been annexed into the city I think since 2004 and we paid city property taxes. I don't feel like we've been a burden to the city other than snow plowing and occasional services, right? We've incurred different expenses with our um well and septic on our own. So I guess my request is that that comes into consideration when you're talking about assessments specifically again selfishly right selfishly on our call this perhaps you have those estimates haven't come to us but I do hope that you consider that Yes, >> I have a concern. Um, we have a city sewer right in our milkyard. It's never been maintained in 15 years that we've lived there. And Brian, you can attest to this. um when it rains hard. I have lakefront property in my backyard and we've been told that this would be taken care of when the streets get taken care of. I want to make sure that we're not charged for this because we didn't put that sewer line in or whatever line it and we uh I don't mind property. But I really get tired of over all the water's out there. >> Are you over on First Avenue over here? Right. >> Yeah. I'm the one that you never talk >> with. That's the one that you never talk back to, right? >> Yes. And then the other thing is we don't want to lose our front yards either. >> Thank you. And if anybody comes up with questions that Craig has his information available as well. So please reach out if you have question. Anybody else? Just a quick question for relighting sanitary sea. Is there a cost savings to relighting? supposed to have been up. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah, that's a good question. We do we do get that from time to time. Um the cost of relighting a sewer like that is comparable to digging it up and replacing it. Um the other thing that we look at is the connection of the service. So for replacing all the services really it's best to expose the sanitary sewer and if you do that then you're getting different holes in the street for it anyway. So the longevity of the need sewer it outs um and the long life cycle cost out um reining sanitary sewer. Um, I had a question about work that we had done on our property in 2019. We had our similar line completely replaced up to the uh the street and would that impact our assessment or Would they have to pull the whole thing up again? Uh would be my question. >> Yeah, we did talk about that >> individually. >> Yeah. And uh while I wouldn't be happy to lose my front lawn to a sidewalk, I'd just like to say for safety reasons, uh we on our street have a lot of children that walk through there. There's a lot of traffic because we're one block from the fourway intersection uh on Main Street and so people turn around there. Uh there are no sidewalks on either side of our street. So um I thought I understood that the ordinance is to have at least one if you on these narrow streets you would want at least one sidewalk if it were improved, but um that would be acceptable. So while I wouldn't want to lose my yard, um I I understand that there would be some to make up So anybody else question is being done with county street 27. So, and does that mean the curb weather will only have to be paid for twice down in that section of the first street down there? How is that going to be done? >> Yeah, we would try to keep as much curb as we could because it's a wider street. So, we would try to keep as much just in that intersection as we could so we didn't have to replace it. Um or the would not have to replace it. So that's not highlighted section then show that we're not we stay as is per se. >> Yep. Yeah. We we would try as much as possible. I mean there might be some overlap in some of the work but um but really what we're we'll do is coordinate with county and kind of show what our project extends are and then see if they can match what we so >> I do know there are a couple extraordinaries that are around the corner. Why not get them on the other side? So that means you're going to have to get into that corner to get them >> redone and you know they're questionable shape as they're sinking and stuff. >> Yeah. And and again some of the design detail but we may portion of it we might just leave it for the year comes back. is my concern is having businesses or residents pay twice from pay we had. So >> I know we plan to coordinate on you know next year and then they moved on. Yeah, >> that's what we section question. >> And are we talking about >> uh we will be publicly good. Okay. >> So we we'll open it up and put out >> contract respons to Close public hearings. >> Motion to close. >> Second. Second. Delena. >> I >> David is I brings us to >> item D which is resolution 2548 ordering the improvement and preparation of the plan for the 2026 street improvement project. >> Mayor just a quick comment. I suspect Craig has said this. I just said listen carefully not but uh this whole process is statuto explained that it's statute 419 so the legislature sort of laid out the way cities go about uh typically financing these kind of improvements the process is a little funny in the sense that tonight you're deciding whether or not you want to move forward project whether you want to go to bid uh see what the project ultimately would cost and uh and make the final plans and and do that so you're ordering the project tonight you'd have to have a separate hearing later on and how much assessment can impose on individual residents. So that's you're not deciding that tonight. The point about the process is that sort of intuitively you'd think that the assessment part is the is the maybe the time when councils have to have a super majority vote, but it's actually tonight. You need a four fifth vote to move forward tonight. Uh and so I I didn't know if that that got or not, but so to move forward, we need four to take that step. Everybody's here. Very good. All right. >> Resolution, right? >> He hearing is closed. >> We'll move resolution 2548 for plans to the improvement project. >> Second. >> Motion a second on 2548. Thank you. By the way, >> um Delena, >> hi >> Colton. >> Hi, >> Bern. >> Hi, >> Brandy. >> Hi, >> David. I Which brings us to item E, which is the request to approve the final pay request for once construction of 2023 improvement project. >> Yeah, council. So, this is the final step. So, they got some cleanup items. Um, again, came back and touched up some of the seating areas. Um and uh also this uh release some of the retaining that was on the project. So the uh amount of the request is $40,576.74 that would start then a one-year warranty on the uh on the project >> and it is noted here that the sidewalk we will spot in spring. >> Yeah. So, there was a section of the sidewalk on that north side of Second Avenue that we noticed some settlement here um earlier this year, later last year. Um it did settle some more and so we just want to have it go through another previous cycle just to make sure that it doesn't settle in. Does that include any cracks like in the general sidewalk if that happened since? >> Um so technically yes it it does. Um we walk the sidewalk um a year after it was placed um just to make sure that we capture anything. No concrete is going to crack over the years if it's bad enough or it's separating and of course they can look at it and um potential. project. >> I'll second that. Motion a second to approve the final page. Any other questions, discussion for Craig book to start another >> um Elena. >> Hi Vernon, >> hi >> Brandy. >> Hi. >> Hi. Thank you. Bob, do we have anything for the legal tonight? >> I do very very briefly, but you can ask me to speak about me saying thank you for this. I didn't get a real chance to say that. This is a total surprise. Um, and I can't believe it's been 20 years. Uh, thanks for pointing that out. I as soon as you said that, I I jotted down in the last 20 years. uh some of the bigger things some of the bigger things that have happened or almost happened. >> Um there have been some things that have been exciting for this community that have always happened. Um and it's fun for me to to think about that. So I really I really do appreciate that. Um and I'll use this to lead into what I just want to report on. I think in that 20 years we've had relatively little litigation and nice city council and your your prior councils have wanted to avoid that. It's it's money out of the taxpayers's pocket when you have litigation um that the city's involved in. So everybody wants to avoid that if that's possible. I think you've been pretty successful in that. Um what I want to report on of course is I think all council is aware and probably most publicly aware there is now a lawsuit related to the project skyway project. Uh and I just want to give you a really quick highlevel uh view on how from city attorney's perspective how that goes. Um that the city uh like the vast majority of cities in Minnesota is insured by the League of Minnesota City Insurance Trust. Uh, as I said, the vast majority of the 860 plus or minus cities in Minnesota are insured through that cooperative organization. Part of the insurance, um, unlike maybe your your some of the insurance policies that we have, part of that insurance is that the league handles litigation, um, defends the city in litigation. Um and so appropriately your staff has appoint has has passed along the lawsuit to part of of their job in ensuring the infinity unit is that they appoint litigation council. Uh and so for like this they would typically not use the city attorney city attorney firm. They want a form of outside counsel a fresh set of eyes as they would say to come in and take a look at that. That has occurred. Uh uh Elizabeth and I have talked to the league about who they would suggest. They've suggested a firm that is actually representing three other cities that have been sued by the same uh plaintiff by the same organization by the the I'm going to get the name wrong by the Minnesota Center for Environmental Advocacy, which is the plaintiff in this case. They have lawsuits against three other cities that are related to um to data centers. And so the firm that's representing those other other cities is familiar with this kind of litigation, familiar with the claims uh that this plaintiff has brought and so it's the appropriate uh we think uh a lawyer law firm to represent the city. So Elizabeth and I have gone ahead and approved that appointment. Just in the last thing about that is I I won't be the litigation council. I'll know what's going on. I'll be able to talk to you occasionally um in the appropriate circumstance about the the litigation, but it will have another lawyer who will be representing the city in that litigation. The uh the the league's um insurance for cities is very very good. Uh it's better than cities could get if you went on out to the open market and trying to find insurance for municipal corporations. Uh and so it's very good. However, there is a deductible. So you do pay a piece of the cost of aviation. So you should be aware that there will be some cost to you to the city to taxpayers um related to litigation. It's relatively a modest amount up to a certain this kind of litigation is very very expensive. Uh and so it's a it's a certain percentage of the litigation cost up to a certain dollar amount. I mean it's $250,000 and then if the litigation goes that your percentage actually goes up a little bit. uh and so you should be aware that there will be some cost um to the to the litigation. So I just want to get that out uh for the benefit of the public and for all of you um to understand sort of how the ground rules will work for that. I'll know again what's going on but I'm not going to do the royal at the momentation. Uh I think mayor that is the only thing I needed to report on uh and I can ask answer your questions. >> Well, thank you. Congratulations on Yeah, that's very kind of you. Thank you so much. Yeah, very cool. >> Yeah. All right, we'll move to Queens. I move us into department updates. Anything on your end, Elizabeth? >> No. crashing away downstairs. So, um my great welcome back >> had a great time in Albert and I appreciate the ability to go there. Um again, that was I went to conference um national conference for small and rural libraries and I got a grant that covered all of that. So, that was lovely to be able to, you know, listen to people. Uh this month, most of my stuff is in my report. I'm just going to highlight three things. Uh, stiff and style is back. So, anyone who likes to do spelling or likes to drink beer or likes to do both or just watch people do both um feel free to come up to South by Southeast. The next two um spelling days will be on November 13th and December 11th. Uh sign up start at 5:30 that evening and spelling will start at 6. Uh otherwise for programming, story time and music and movement is happening on Wednesday mornings. They alternate Wednesdays. I think this tomorrow is going to be a story time and then the following will be a music movement at the all are welcome. Um that's usually centered towards preschool and toddlers. Um but we've got other people who've been there before too and that's kind of fun. So we hope to see other people there as well. Otherwise um talking to everyone here I have an opening on the board coming up after December. So if you want to serve your community, consider uh serving on our library board. We meet every other month. Um and a lot of good things are happening there. So uh thank you very much. We I like to thank Cole Carol Rizzo. She's been on my board for nine years. And so she's reached the end of the third term, which is our term limit, but she's going to continue to serve on the South board, so the regional library board. Um, so we're thankful that she's gonna stick around for that. But yeah, she's uh aged out as they say. >> I like that term. >> Yes. Any questions? >> Well, thank you very much. >> Thank you so much. >> Yes, if I may. um starting on public works park board. So just some exciting things happening to be done with that. We got a grant to replace playground park. Uh the park board has also approved um for the playground equipment at Collins Park to be replaced and we are looking at kind of like an obstacle course ninja course equipment. So just something different that we don't have. So that's exciting. >> Any stuff? >> Oh yes. the doc. So the doc is like 98% >> yes and uh board uh approved the name and we approved the signage. So we just waiting for the signage to come in. >> So sign today. So hopefully by the weekend we will be able to open up we um have approval approvals from the insurance company and everything like that. So everything has good post online. Um, I can't >> All right. >> Good. Fire department busy, sheriff's office, everybody. [Music] And I want to do one more thank you. colors. That was very much appreciated. So, >> I'm sorry, one more. Uh, so for the nurse sanitary sewer district, so I reported last month that uh this the sewer district was able to present to the Senate uh bonding committee. So, it's called the capital investment committee. And so, we just found out as well that we'll be presenting before the House um capital investment committee on November 6. Yes, frustrating some days, but we're working. So, anyway, we'll take a motion to adjourn. Thank you everybody for coming tonight. >> We have a motion and a second. on favor.