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2025.10.21 Pine Island City Council

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This will be the pledge of allegiance. Please rise again. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which stands one indivisible and justice for all. All right. So, we're going to be starting tonight's hang with u our pillars program. And this is something that we uh was started by my predecessor and I was very very excited to continue this because it's the one night of the year that we as a city or as mayor uh am I'm able to go out and recognize people in this community to go above and beyond service uh to our county. And this is something that I've been able to do since 2020. And it's and it's exciting because some a lot of these people they don't do things for any glory. They do it because they want to and they do it because it's the right thing to do. And in the past we've recognized businesses and we've recognized organizations. We've recognized individuals. So tonight we're going to be recognizing some individuals to organizations and uh so we're going to get the ball started. So, I'm hoping um you can join in congratulating these people with me as they join this year's class of pillars of the community. And so, our first um people tonight, they've been active in the Pine community for many years and are recognizable in our volunteer circles. Mike and Ny have shown what it means to give to the town through their tireless work in their church and the nonprofit organizations. Uh notably, they are champions in the Lions Club here in town. promoting the organization through their years of service. The lines have tirelessly given to the community of Pineon above and beyond. Uh their involvement with the school is also known to many. In addition to their years of service of Pine Lions Club, Mr. Lundy has served on committees with the city along with her time on the city council. Uh Mrs. Lundy can be oftentimes spawn with her camera in hand going around the community uh capturing moments of Prime Island history and she does. She's also taken on the tradition and I commend her for this of uh doing our greatest photo for the fire department. And if you know the fire department, she uses her teacher skills to get everybody together. So, we appreciate that. And it's a tradition that can be found going all the way back to the 1930s. So, we appreciate her willingness to help carry that tradition on. To them, we say thank you and it's time that you are recognized for your service. Mikey Nine Lundy. a photo right there. Thank you. All right, this next one, it uh it's been a few years. Um his name has come up and I'm excited to be able to do this not only because um he's a member of this community, but he's my father as well. For years, he's been active in both his local church and in his city government. Mr. Grant Freeze. My father has served in many capacities at Cornerstone Baptist Church, formerly known as the Pine Baptist Church through many, many years of youth leadership as well as being a Sunday school teacher in a Dayton and a treasure. He has led for many years efforts to raise funds for mission projects in Southeast Asia and a lot of those projects were done here in PA and surrounding areas. And he has also been very faithful visiting our elderly in Pion where he can be found engaging them whether it's in games and conversations or a lot of laughter and to this day he has stepped up in many times to ensure that someone needing help with errands or visits or resources that they receive the support that they need to thrive. Uh he has served on the city council for several terms and has continued to serve Pine Island and zoning board. Uh he has also served with the Pineon Area Historical Society ensuring that our local history and identity is preserved for generations to come. Each year uh Miss Freeze has led the annual primary supper for the fire department and that's something that um each year they look forward to letting our local firefighters know that they are appreciated for the work in this community. Our next recipient is Mr. Grant Freeze. Thank you. >> All right. This next one I belave. She's been she's been a pillar of this community long before the mayor's office started the pillars of the community awards. Miss Graham Connie Saer has shown community dedication spirit for years beginning back with her participation as a Pine Island School cheerleader known for her acrobatic abilities and stories do come down. She's also she later went on to serve on the Methodist church um with the Methodist church church council leading the decision of the ministry. She was also the face of Sword and Suns plumbing and heating working as a bookkeeper for many many years uh for nearly 65 years actually to this day. She continues as an active member with the Pine Legion Auxiliary. It's an organization that truly drives this community with their work at the Legion. Miss Connie was known for her work with bingo events at Pinehaven Care Center and during Pine Island's annual cheese festival. She could be sing for many years organizing and serving the monthly meals for the Pine Island Chamber of Commerce meetings held at the Legion Hall. And she continues to actively participate as the treasure for the auxiliary. To her we say thank you and for many for her many years of service to Pine and it's finally time she is recognized for her service. You say it's the answer. >> So our next recipient, he is the youngest recipient of this year's pillars of the community. Mr. Evan Evan Gorson has shown a true spirit of community service. From a young age, this young man has been willing to help our senior members of Pineon. Whether it's through lawn care, assisting them with technology, uh playing games with them, or simply giving them an ear to listen, they've been an active member of the Boy Scouts organization for many years and continues to assist their organization and leader. He's still teaching and leading the next generation of scouts. He's been an active member of the Pine Island Fire Department, assisting with projects surrounding the age friendly network. This past year, Evan has helped to lead the efforts to revitalize the independent order of bod fellows here in Pine Island and an organization dedicated to community service and looking out for the most vulnerable in our communities. With his help, I has once again risen to active status with his leadership and he's always looking out for those in this community that might need a little extra help. for that he has earned this year's one of the pillars of the community awards. Congratulations Abby War this next one I was I was very very excited to be able to recognize. Uh it's a unique group and it's and it's actually grown in some popularity among area mayors when you talk to them. It's a new group to Pine Island. This student led organization has truly taken off in their efforts to preserve our natural resources in the Pine Island area. In fact, I look forward to the roots and shoots environmental club's future projects and seeing what they can come up with as an organization. Over the past year, a project that was a hidden gem has started to come out as Pine Island's nature clay trail and is quickly being recognized as a regionally unique area. Pine Island students led by their teacher Megan Shim created a space that inspires outdoor exploration, creativity, and a love for nature. It's a hands-on environment that promotes natural play elements, and it's open to everyone. And I enjoy being able to take my friends, kids down there. It's a very very neat area. Our school district is preparing young leaders and I trip my captain to Miss Shimac and our students in the roots and shoots club moving our community in the right direction. A true thank you from our city. Roots and Shoots, you're our next recipient. Let me give you this picture. If you haven't been down there, I highly recommend it. And they got some I'll put a plug in there. They are going to be doing a new project, I believe, and going to be looking for some donations. So, >> always >> That's right. Some Terra toys. I got to find those somewhere. So, they are a group of servicemen and women that deserve our utmost appreciation, respect, and gratitude. The Vietnam War was fought from 1955 to 1975, driven by political policy surrounding the theory of the domino effect on communism. With a little over 8.7 million US combat troops involved in the war, the conflict took the lives of around 1.3 million combatants, 58,220 of them US troops. Today, there remains around 1,600 soldiers listed as MIA P. The Vietnam War left a deep impression on the American psyche, especially our troops, which makes this group, our Vietnam veterans group here in Pine Island, all that more important to support one another and to remind the public that they are still here. They were our soldiers and they give us so much to in service to our country. They are now veterans with many still battling PTSD along with the effects of Asian horns and we see that here locally. In 1982, the Vietnam War Memorial was erected in Washington DC to commemorate the sacrifice of many during this war. We finally have a memorial started here at home to remind this community of the many residents of our own who served from Pine with some never coming home. This memorial is a direct effort of the members of the Pine Vietnam veterans and on behalf of this community and as mayor, you have our true thanks. Our next recipient is the pound Vietnam vet. As a local leader at the Pale American Legion, Mr. Parr has promoted the efforts and work of the Legion, ensuring that our military veterans are served and remembered. He served as a member of the Army from 1977 to 2009, serving the capacity of the federal law enforcement officer. And at the Pine Island Legion, Mr. Par has become the gambling manager. He he became the gambling manager at on January 1st, 2020. Since his time in Pine Island, Mr. Parr has assisted and volunteered with his sons, the American Legion Burger Feeds, which raised funds for the Legion Hall. Stepping in for events to help set up and tear down the Legion Hall. And if you know the group up there, he has to use his law enforcement skills sometimes to keep them wrangled in. And of times you can find him stepping in to help with basic daily operations of the Legion barn facilities and said one of the members of the Legion. Jerry is always willing to help and donate funds to the youth sports programs in the Pine Island area. He has worked with multiple youth sports within the Pine Island to help raise money for their programs and ensure that they receive the the support that they need. and he's always looking out for the betterment of our veterans programs and finding out what they might need for support. And for that, our final pillar of the community tonight, Mr. Jerry Par. So, we had one more certific something I was excited to uh be able to do as mayor. Um, but we have an individual that has worked with the community now for going on 20 years and his anniversary is actually this month and he is an absolute bulldog in the legal world and Pine Island is truly truly fortunate to have him serve our community in the capacity that he does. And he was not expecting this tonight, but he is still going to be um presented with a certificate on behalf of the city and a a true thank you for the work he had done. and he has helped us through many trials and tribulations and he is always and I can say this from a personal note he is always looking out for the betterment of this community and protecting Pine Island and its residents and so we have one more award to give out tonight to Mr. Robert Bos and a thank you on behalf of Pine Island. So come on up. And that concludes our pillars for 2025. So you are more than welcome to stay for council meeting tonight if you'd like. Otherwise, if you'd like to take moment to uh escape, you're more than welcome to do that as well. So we just have to do some rearranging and we'll get down to business. Congratulations. Thanks so much. We didn't have a point. get the radio. We'll move on to the consent agenda and we are going to be I'm going to make a request that we can pull item E from the consent agenda and put it under administration >> to move to the administration. I'll second that. >> Motion a second to move item E which are request to approve gross security quotes from consent down to administration. Motion a second. Dana >> I believe. >> Our consent agenda tonight includes the September 16th, 2025 regular council meeting minutes, October 7th, 2025 council workshop meeting minutes. October 8th, 2025 special council meeting minutes. Request to approve Mandai co-op agreement amendment request to approve IA safety proposal Pine Island American League and Bingo permit. Request for the pumpkin luminary trail at trailhead park on October 28th and a request to approve county prosecution contract. >> I'll second. >> We have a motion and a second on the consent agenda. Any other discussion? Gamb. >> Hi. >> Colton. >> Hi. >> Vernon. >> Hi. >> Randy. >> Hi. >> And David is I. And then we are going to move into public input. We have two presenters tonight. Um or do we have any written correspondence? >> We uh the second item on the agenda is actual written correspondence as well. So there's two written correspondents in the packet and then we have uh one individual who has signed public. >> Okay. Mr. Lannard. >> Yes. >> All right. We'll call Mr. landing right up. >> No. Yes, sir. My wife understood while I was waiting for that. I understood I had two minutes of >> Yep. Yes, sir. I can't talk that fast. >> Oh, I wrote the speech and my wife has been >> welcome back. Thank you. >> We'll give you at 2:30 because the clock's already set for 2:30. >> Okay. Thank you. Now, >> good evening everyone. I would like to share my perspective on the proposed pine island skyway center project. A major developer has approached our city promising economic benefits that when examined closely seem misleading and incomplete. Our residents have raised genuine concerns. Yet many have been unfairly accused spreading misinformation. It is critical that our city leaders listen to these voices, conduct thorough research, and learn from similar situations in other communities. >> [clears throat] >> Across the United States, over 4,000 data centers are in varying stages of development. Yet, non-disclosure agreements often keep vital information hidden from local citizens. Before signing any contracts, we must demand a transparent and comprehensive cost benefit analysis along with a real impact assessment supported by factual debt. Let us consider the potential consequences. First resource strain. Project Skyway could consume up to 55.7 million gallons of water annually, about half of our city's current usage, and its electricity demand could be 100 times greater than what we use now. This could require new substations, strain our grid, raise utility costs, and even risk outages. Second, the environmental impact. Data centers generate substantial noise and life motion affecting neighborhoods and wildlife. The city's environmental review is already being challenged in court for not fully addressing these impacts. Third, economic risk. While jobs and increased tax revenue are promised, most positions will be temporary or limited. Long-term benefits may not materialize, especially if local inf infrastructure costs rise. Property values could drop due to increased noise, traffic or environmental degradation. Fourth, transparency and public trust. When critical information is withheld, it erodess trust and leads to legal challenges as we are seeing now have the precedent. Nearby towns have rejected similar proposals due to unresolved concerns. Approving this project without thorough analysis would endanger our small communities. In closing, I urge our leaders to pause and ensure both officials and the public are being fully informed before any decisions are made. Please listen to the evidence. We we deserve to be heard. Thank you. We'll move on to administration which item eight we are going to request to approve the archaeological assessment for the trail head park rank. >> Yes. >> Taking on this one. >> Yes. I can um well this is a request to use the wid set for the archaeological assessment for um This is for the DNR grant that the city um was awarded and so it was looking through the grant contract currently. This is one of the steps that needs to be completed uh for us to enter into the contract. >> This will be an action item >> request to approve assessment park grant. I'll second it. Have a motion and second. Any questions? Getting one step closer. getting park there. So good. Delena, >> hi >> Hton. >> Hi >> Vernon. >> Hi >> Brandy. >> Hi. >> And David Roby. >> I which brings us to item B which request to approve the AT&T first net as a wireless bite. Some good read. >> Yes. So this is something we've been working for through for a few months. And so currently the city uses a Verizon wireless or a wireless cell phone provider um as many know the Verizon wireless power uh has been continuously going down typically that's not a huge deal except all of our SCADA alarms go to public works cell phones um for our treatment plant. So if there's anything wrong with the bank, so if the um tower has been going down, then public works aren't receiving those alarms um and uh aren't are they don't know that there's an alarm going off at one of the list stations for the treatment plan. And so um I had quite a few conversations with AT&T and we've looked into their first net uh which is a uh service separate from AT&T that was run through AT&T and essentially it's an awarded contract through um the federal government and this is a service that is only for first responders and critical um staff and so our public works department will fall under that. I've also had conversations with the fire department because we do have uh mobile hotspots and mobile iPads that go in the fire trucks as well. that is on our plan and uh the fire department is in full support to switch as well in the event of a um any kind of incident around K Island. The cell phone powers are the jam because of people using them. Uh anyone on the first map network would have priority over regular cell phone users. And so I do think it is critical for our fire department and public work staff to be on that network. In addition, this would open up uh firefighters to they would have the option on a personal cell phone plan. They would qualify to also be under the first network if they still choose personal um non city issued cell. And so the price comparison currently the city pays between 613 615 and $614 each month. Um the quote came in at uh just under $640. So it was a slight increase each month. However, I feel for the service that we'd be getting with FirstNet um would be far superior. Uh first is is made by first responders for first responders. They also offer um mobile hotspots, mobile units. They have trucks that we can dispatch. If we were to ever to have an emergency management situation, we can dispatch a truck here to ensure that we have mobile capabilities. Does it require any qualification? >> Uh no. So we would if if council chooses to switch uh they would be on site. So all staff would qualify for free phones essentially. So how governmental plans work is we we have free phones and then um we have free upgrades each year. That's how we have it with Verizon as well. And so um AKG staff would be on site to uh see the change over and be no additional cost for the initial um >> yeah cell phones. So and for the fire department we are looking um instead so currently through Verizon we have mobile iPads what we're looking to go through um first net are um they're essentially mobile hotspots and but this gives us the capability of they can use it's not limited to just the data and iPad um so then we could save money in the future because instead of replacing that iPads we can use different tablets and then we would have mobile that basically input there contract. >> A motion a second request. Any other discussion or questions for Elizabeth be nice to make sure we have that access when it's needed there. So >> hearing none >> I Vernon >> I Brandy >> Hi >> David will be I thank you for your work on that file which will bring us to item C which is going to be um quick update on Siri sorry >> yes so the reason I asked to take this consent agenda we discuss this work session uh this is essentially the phase two implementation of um implementing cameras throughout our city facilities in our parks and tracks area. Um we do have an updated quote uh for the chief factory door which needs to be replaced doing industrial doors for the security um access to be enabled. There's one quote here from um GP Builders and then we are expecting another quote from the laundry and so I am asking to approve the on whichever quote or approve um the request with whichever quote is last and so we haven't received yet. So we're still waiting on that. Um so we wouldn't approve anything until we get that quote and we can go the lowest uh quote for the door and then there is a summary of the cameras. So there' be one additional camera at the cheese factory, two cameras at the library, two cameras at home park, two cameras at park and one camera at the professional. So these are all our high areas of either customer service transaction for >> separate that. >> No, we can approve it uh with the um as long as that income sales are. Um, I'll move the request to approve the phase two for the cameras and the door dependent on motion from the net. >> I would like to add that uh this would be coming out of the unrestricted fund 250. And so those are not taxpayer dollars. Those are funds that the city has received through either land transactions. Motion a second on the quote including approval for the new door pending which any other questions hopefully within the next week. >> [clears throat] >> Yeah, hopefully by the end of the week we're hoping to have Jason. >> Okay, perfect. Question discussion hearing none would vote. Delena >> Hton burn. >> Hi >> Brandy. >> Hi >> and David will be this nice. All right. So thank you. We're going to jump into planning commission. We have nothing listed under planning commission. So we'll move on to public works and engineering. She's going to bring up item A, a request to approve vessel quotes for the waste water treatment bar. Are you bringing this one up? >> Anyway, um you read that we had some issues with fire. So we got these it's kind of a specialized deal. So getting a lot of folks doesn't work. So um the person basel for the bar screen um that's a total of $27,78.75 approval move on that project. It's kind of hodge podge right now. So, and then the second one is in our bar street from New Red Wing for $3,651.30 fix. Um, it got pretty good. We got hel on ledge though pretty bad. It needs to be replaced. These guys specialize in that some work. So just look for your approval move on these projects. >> Yeah. >> So we're going to split the council. We'll do the fire stream first and then the clarify repair second. So the first one's going to be for that vesicle >> and what? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So this would be an unfunded purchase. However, it would come from um reserve funds essentially. So because this is non uh plum maintenance and so typically for something this large we would seek two or more quotes. However, because this is a specialized item um we we don't have to approach to approve the quote and bar motion a second on the first item which will be the bar screen. Any other questions? It's pretty straightforward on these needs. So we keep them running. So >> all right hearing none. Delena. >> Hi >> Colton. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Randy. >> David will be I and he did introduce us to the need for the verifier repair. So that aren motion a second. Any questions on that art? Hearing none. Elena. >> Hi. >> Holton. >> Hi. >> Burns. >> Hi. >> Brandy. Thank you. >> All right. I think you're going to be next public hearing 2026. Good evening. And also I'm just gonna turn around turn back to you. Uh but uh hello my name is Freddy Gman. I'm a civil engineer with the own city of Jer Island. And uh so tonight we are holding the public hearing for a possible 2026 street project uh that uh that we're proposing. And uh the purpose of tonight's meeting is to run through the project area with you. Um talk about the uh city's assessment policy and how that uh affects the properties and then to give you an idea of private costs um for the upcoming project and and the possible assessment that will be placed on the on the property. So we have a short presentation here for you. I'll try to get through it quickly. Uh one thing like I mentioned purpose of tonight's meetings uh more of the costs and the implications of the assessments but u knowing that we have follow room we want to talk a little bit of the construction um process as well. Uh we'll also be holding some design uh meetings here throughout the uh winter. We'll probably have a couple of them. Uh so those will be a little more informal. Hopefully get everyone in the in the room we get plans and talk a little bit about how we probably so um so we'll just uh run through this here and again council will be considering a resolution for um to authorize the plans and specifications to be started on the on the project. So that'll be following the public once able. So um tonight's agenda again we'll just go through the project areas. We'll talk a little bit about the schedule uh the reconstruction process in general uh what you can expect um during the construction time frame and then talk about cost and the assessments and then we'll be the public hearing where we'll we'll gather. Uh so the project areas are have been identified. This is um an ongoing capital improvement program that the city has been uh undertaking. So many of you on Third Street Southwest and First Avenue Southwest have been surrounded by previous projects. But uh uh these are a couple of the blocks that are are proposed for um to be included in the 26 project. Uh next we have Second Street Southeast Main Street and school. Then north main street from center street up to second street. So right by tro and circle there and then will circle southwest is the other area that's identified. Now with main streets and willow circle there are a couple county projects that are upcoming that are planned. Um so that's another reason why these are included. Um community project area. So county is planning replacement of county the county 3 bridge here in 26. So it'll be this upcoming summer and um uh this area does not currently have sewer and water service to it. So we look to extend the sewer and water services from 1 Avenue southwest down 8 street and then uh south county 3 against little circle and then with a street u the county um public works is planning a um reconstruction well is more of a resurfacing project on main streets where they would have a traffic surf along home 11 and so that's why that area is not patched like the other areas That is um that's planned the 27th. Uh so the thought is for us to uh replace the sewer and water before they get there. Uh we can go to surfacing down and then we can finish up the work in uh in 27. Okay. So um uh this the special assessment process is outlined in Minnesota state statute chapter 429 and u and so we follow the process that they they outline there. Uh this is the initial hearing that we'll have on the assessments and then we'll also have a final theory uh when majority instruction has been completed if the council decides to move forward to touch it. So again, we're very early in the process. We have completed the feasibility study. That's where we outlined, we identified the project areas and then um put estimated cost to that project and then um an estimated amount of assessments for the properties. So we're uh tonight we're holding the hearing. So we're there council decides to move forward with it and pass the resolution. be moving into design and then uh looking at possible construction for 26 that'll be finished up in 27 and then the final hearing will be at the end of next year. So probably in October of next year and then the project close out uh that following that following year. So this would be a proposed uh reconstruction project and which would mean that we would replace all of the surfacing items. Uh so curvy gutter if you have it um patunas pavement sidewalks driveways all of that would be replaced and we'd also be replacing underground utilities. So sanitary sewer, water man, storm sewer and we'd be running new services out uh from the main lines in the street to the right lines. And then we'd be restoring the uh disturbed areas with turf establishing um seed or like itself. So those are some details that we still need to work out to design. Uh so with the reconstruction process um you know we started with removables but before any of that happens the mail boxes would be um put into like a cluster of mailboxes move to the end of the street. So the various ways. Um so mail delivery will be to mailbox such as that. Um and then the garbage is something that used to be a little bit of a challenge construction projects. Uh but their contractor will identify scenarios where you can bring dusters if you're not able to bring them down there or your trash cans and they will help move those for you as well. Um they will start with a temporary installation of uh water um lines to your house and uh connecting those so that way you have uh for the most part continuous water service uh throughout the duration of the project. Uh there will be some times where we'll have some interruptions and some schedule will also be some times where it's just contracting something or you may have some interruptions that way. try to give you as much bonus as you can on that. But um um and then they'll start with the underground utilities and they replace one of those. Uh that is uh a bit of a process. First they'll come through to dig in the sanitary sewer, water that back up, dig in the water man, cover that back up, and then dig in the storm sewer and then or services first and then the storm sewer. So they actually dig in the street four different times, which seems like a lot. Um but that is the they can get all the elevations in the with all the pipes in the street. So, um and then they'll once they get done with sections of roadway, they'll end up uh taking out the u excess material and then putting paper back down for the road. Uh concrete work will follow together driveways, sidewalks, and then the pavement and seating that. Um we have um this is just kind of what a I guess a diagram picture of what the mailbox mailboxes look like they're in the group being on the street. Yeah. Trash cans I guess. So uh we you know we'll again we'll ask we'll identify some areas for that and then um the contractor will will assist as their uh the removal start with tree removals. Now we do try to keep as many trees um on the project as we can and try to u we look at uh elevations that are how close they are to utilities that may get disturbed. If the root systems are going to be disturbed they it may come down. So, um, even [clears throat] though it looks like there is a tree that might maybe may be behind the sidewalk, it might be right in the line of utility trench. So, we may take those those out. So, we'll identify those and and contact those come out. But, uh, the first attempt is to try to keep those in place. Um, and then they'll contractors will come in and start removing the surface. That's on the right. Um there'll be some elevation changes. This is down by Massage Place down there where we have some u retaining walls. So um we begin design we'll have to work that area out and decide if we're going to be able to keep that retaining wall that's in place or need to replace it. So uh some of those design details like that we'll be talking about as at the upcoming weeks. U these are some pictures of the temporary water lines getting strong. Um they stream this blue poly line. It's a plastic line um that they connect services to. So again that's the mainly keep your water service project. Um these are some trenches for me that it is going in. Um you can see they're pretty deep trenches there. Um [clears throat] and then there's some water pipe that's being installed as well. Uh storm sewer and sanitary are shown here. And again at quite depth the sanitary is at more than storm sewer. Uh but each of those will be dug in separately. Service lines will go in. Uh the green pipe on the left is a sanitary line that goes from main line of rightway and then water lines are a 1 in copper line that gets extended from the property. The street work um starts happening and so they'll uh compact the subgrade or uh the uh the ground aggregate is placed. Uh sometimes they do need to farm that or airate the areas if it's too wet. So um it might look like they're getting close to placing the rock but they come back and dig everything up. That's the picture on the left. That just means they're trying to get that area dried up so it be and be a safer base uh for the acre. And then concrete work will follow with curb gutter um the sidewalks and then finally the tunis pavement will get close to the end of construction and then turf. So we tried or not. We've done both. We have seated uh we seated on the last street project prior to that mostly side but that is getting very expensive. So but there are some advantages of placing receing as well. So so we'll kind of look at overall project costs and where they land that make a determination. There are are also some gas lines um and power lines that are sometimes replaced as part of the project. Those are um really not city driven. Those are the separate utility companies are are the ones selling those lines. We try to coordinate with them as much as we can. Um but we have to have the city's contract really out of their way before they before they can come in put their lines in. So u but that's another utility that can go in that kind of be disrupted to the project, but uh there's also a need. So, as far as the assessment policy goes, the city assesses in four different categories um with water, sanitary, urban gutter, and the servicing. The water made and sanitary sewer are u based on front footage only. And uh when we talk front footage and sideyard footage, uh the front yard footage is always the shorter side and the sideyard is the long side. So if you're a corner lot, it doesn't matter how your what your address is where where you have your Broadway access. We always use a short side because those are assessed at a higher rate than side. So it's an advantage to the residents to have the frontage the uh the short side. Those are test again on the front yard basis and those are at a 7030 split for residential mean the city picks up 70% of the cost of of the water and sewer and the city or and the residents pay 30%. For commercial it's 50/50. So that is the that's a split for the water and sanitary for the curb and gutter. If you are if you have herb that's in place right now, it's uh based on 100% on the front yard and 50% on the sideyard. And that's at a 70 splits as well for residential and 50/50 for um if if you don't have like the little work area there um you would pay for 100% of the cost. That's based on the students assessment. The street and surface aid is also based on the 1% for the front yard, 50% sideyard, and that's at a 7030 split for residential, 50/50 for commercial. The sidewalk or any paths, those are 100% by the city and not assessed by the resident. And that's the same with the storm sewer. is by the the city. The overall project cost is just a little under 4 million. So this is an estimated amount of 3,981,4460. Of that the city will be be paying a little over 3.3 million and the residents would be estimated around 670,000 of the overall project cost. the for new curb the the estimated cost for residential is about $225 per foot for the front and then half of that is 60 well it's less than half of that because water assessed on the front yard ends up being around $65 a foot on the side and you can see that more shorts there are double for replacing curb it's close to $200 a foot um that's $198 foot and then side is 51 And then the commercial is again. [clears throat] So these are estimated months. We'll know once we get into design, we get some of the side elements more determined then we'll we'll be able to come up with a better estimate. Um on the assessments too uh quickly the uh the city will determine the terms of the uh payback of the assessments at the final assessment period. Um, but typically we've done in that four to five to five and a half% range over 15 years. So I know sometimes [clears throat] mail service isn't the most um viable and so um hopefully each of you received the mail for tonight. If you did not uh please let me know. have a list that will be sent to. So, um just be nice to coordinate a little bit with the the postal service on on um again we'll be get we'll be sending a certified letter for the final assessment but again that will be sometime in October. Um, we'll also have some uh email blasts that go all the city's website information and different ways that we can uh stay in contact with the projects. U these so the next few slides are just um looking at the condition of some of the u some of the utilities uh that are underneath the street. So uh just to give you an idea of why these are identified as central reconstruction project. So the these are sanitary sewer lines. Um and uh you can see these are old clay lines that have just chunks of nesting. It's all broken up and uh it's very calcified in there as well. So restricts the flow of subwar. Um these are some [clears throat] broken pipe that are that are showing up into that's um obviously not good for a lot of reasons but I can leak the seat into the uh into the ground but it also creates weak spots and pipe for voids to occur and potential collapse of the sewer. And just some more more pictures of misaligned joints and some logit. These are some of the manholes in the area where they're just not muted around there properly. Um allows for some inflow and infiltration in the area especially in the main street area. You know we got a lot lot of issues there where ground water is getting into the sanitary sewer system going to the plants and that is being treated and uh so that's also the cost trying to eliminate this much these are a couple swarm structures that um where the block is falling in just so this is my contact information here you can always reach out the city if you have any followup questions and I will be here as well if you have any with that my presentation over there Andy David. >> Hi. >> Um, if anybody has questions or comments regarding the project for Craig right now, it's an opportunity for you to ask if you'd like um from the public. Yes, sir. question. It's not about how much right off the microphone. Thank you. When I saw the materials, I did not have a question about cost. What I do have a question about is uh the environmental effects on my property in particular. I stand to lose the tree which shades my lawn and makes life a lot better. I stand to lose a good portion of my lawn if they move it back 15 ft to put in the sidewalk. And I have insurance that there are streets that were improved that didn't get sidewalks. I want to know what those exclusions were for and how I So that's what we're talking about for me. I'm concerned about those things. >> Absolutely. Now that will get out conversation as the projects move forward. So that's all the feedback and that's what they want to hear. Yeah, we're street and that brings me to the CD for society for street seating was horrible. >> Absolutely. >> Oh, thank you, sir. >> How are you? >> Thank you. Thank you. >> I do have a question about um the assessments. I live on the whole circle and we are both has been annexed into the city. I think since 2004 and we paid city property taxes. I don't feel like we've been a burden to the city other than snow plowing and the occasional services. Right. We've incurred different expenses with our um wellness septic on our home. So I guess my request is that that comes into consideration when you're talking about assessments specifically again selfishly, right? selfishly on our call this and perhaps you have those estimates have come to us but I do hope that you consider that >> yes I have a concern um we have a city sewer right in our backyard it's never maintain in 15 years that we've lived there. And Brandon, you can attest to this. Um, when it rains hard, I have Lake property in my backyard. And we've been told that this would be taken care of when the streets get taken care of. I want to make sure that we're not charged for this because we didn't put that sewer line in or whatever line you bring on, whatever it is. and and we uh I don't mind lake front property, >> but I really get tired of rain. All the water's out there. >> Are you over on First Avenue over here? >> Yeah, I'm the one that you never talk >> with the one that you never talk back to, right? >> Yes. And then the other thing is we don't want to lose our front yards or Thank you. >> And if anybody comes up with questions that Craig has his information available as well, so please reach out if you have question here. Anybody else? Just a quick question for any Is there a cost savings to relighting as opposed to having to dig up? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Yeah, that's a good question. We do we do get that from time to time. U the cost of reviving a sewer like that is comparable to digging it up and replacing it. Um the other thing that we look at is the connection of the service. So for replacing all the services really it's best to expose the sanitary sewer and if you do that then you're getting different goals in the street for it anyway. So the longevity of the sewer outweighs um and the long life cycle cost out um relying sanitary sewer. So Um, I had a question about work that we had done on our property in 2019. We had our SE line completely replaced up to the uh the street and would that impact our assessment or would they have to pull the whole thing up again? That would be my question. >> Yeah, we can talk about that >> individually. >> Yeah. And uh while I wouldn't be happy to lose my front lung to your sidewalk, I just like to say for safety reasons, uh we on our street have a lot of children that walk through there. There's a lot of traffic because we're one block from the fourway intersection uh on Main Street and so people turn around there. Uh there are no sidewalks on either side of our street. So, um I thought I understood that the ordinance is to have at least one if you on these narrow streets you would want at least one sidewalk if it were improved, but um that would be acceptable. So, while I wouldn't want to lose my yard, um I I understand that there would be some to make up. So, Anybody else? >> I know your interior is being done with county street push out till 27. So, does that mean the curb and gutter will only have to be paid for twice down in that section of the first street there? How is that going to be done? >> Yeah, we would try to keep as much curve as we could because it's a wider street. So, we probably keep as much just in that intersection as we could so we didn't have to replace it. Um, or the would not have to replace it. >> So, that's non highlighted section then. whether or not we stay as is per se. >> Yep. Yep. We we try as much as possible. There might be some overlap in some of the work, but um but really what we're we'll do is coordinate with county and kind of show what our project extends are and then see if they can match price. So it doesn't I do know there are a couple of storm drains that are around the corner probably on the other side. >> So that means you're going to have to get into that corner to get them >> redone and you know they're questionable. because they're sinking and stuff. >> Yeah. And again some of the design detail but we may portion of it we might something like that just for the year comes back my concern just having businesses or residents pay twice this year we had so >> I know we planned for you know next county then they moved on >> right so Yeah, that's what >> are we talking about? >> Um, it will be publicly good. >> Okay. >> So, we'll open it up and put out contractor responsible cont. Hearing motion second >> I burn I >> Randy >> David is I brings us to item D which is resolution 2548 ordering the improvement and preparation of plan for the 2026 street improvement project >> mayor just a quick comment I suspect Craig has said this I said listen carefully enough but uh this whole process stat explained that it's statute 419. So the legislature has sort of laid out the way cities go about typically financing these kind of improvements. The process is a little funny in the sense that tonight you're deciding whether or not they want to move forward project where they want to go to bid uh see what the project ultimately would cost and uh and make the final plans and and do that. So you're ordering the project tonight. You'd have to have a separate hearing later on what on how much assessment can cause on individual residents. So that's you're not deciding that tonight. The point about the process is sort of intuitively you'd think that the assessment part is the maybe the time when councils have to have a super majority vote, but it's actually tonight we need a fourth vote to move forward tonight. Uh and so I I didn't know if that that got entered or not, but so move forward. We need we need four to take the next step. But he's here. All right. >> Right. >> Hearing is closed. >> We'll move resolution 2548 for plans for the 20th project. >> Second motion second on 2548. Thank you. By the way, >> um Delena, >> hi. >> Holton. >> Hi. >> Vernon. >> Hi. Brandy >> I >> David is which brings us to item E which is the request to approve the final pay request for the construction of the 2023 street improvement project. >> Yeah council so this is the final step. So they had some clean up items again came back and touched up some of the seating areas um and uh also this release some of the utility that was on the project. So the uh amount of the request is $4,576.74 that would start then a one year warranty on the uh on the project >> and it is noted here that the sidewalk we will have one spot in the spring. >> Yeah. So, there was a section of the sidewalk on that north side of Second Avenue that we noticed some settlement here um earlier this year, later last year. Um it did settle some more and so we just want to go through another previous cycle just to make sure that it doesn't settle in. Does that include any cracks like in the general sidewalk? >> Um so technically yes it it does. Um we walk the sidewalk um a year after it was placed. Um just to make sure that we no concrete isn't going to crack over the years if it's bad enough where it's separating and then of course they can look at it and potential problem. I'll second that. Motion a second to approve the final page. Any other questioning, discussion for Craig product? >> Um Elena. >> Hi Vernon, >> hi >> Brandy. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Thank you. Do we have anything for legal tonight? >> I do very very briefly, but you can't ask me to speak. He's saying thank you for this. I didn't get a real chance to say that. This is a total surprise. Um, and I can't believe it's been 20 years. Uh, thanks for pointing that out. I as soon as you said that I I jotted down in the last 20 years some of the bigger things some of the bigger things that have happened or almost happened. >> Um there have been some things that have been exciting for this community that have always happened. Um and it's fun for me to to think about that. So I really I really do appreciate that. Um and I'll use this to lead into what I just want to report on. I think in that 20 years we've had relatively little litigation and nice out city council and your your prior councils have wanted to avoid that. It's it's out of the taxpayers's pocket and have litigation um that the city's involved in. So everybody wants to avoid that if that's possible. I think you've been pretty successful in that. Um what I want to report on of course is I think all council is aware and probably most public is aware there is now a lawsuit related to the project skyway project. Uh and I just want to give you a really quick highlevel uh view on how from city attorney's perspective how that goes. Um that the city uh like the vast majority of cities in Minnesota is insured by the League of Minnesota City Insurance Trust. Uh as I said, the vast majority of the 860 plus or minus cities of Minnesota are insured through that cooperative organization. Part of the insurance um unlike maybe your your some of the insurance policies that we have, part of that insurance is that the league handles litigation um defends the city in litigation. Um and so appropriately your staff is appoint has has passed along the lawsuit to part of of their job in ensuring the infinity was that they appoint litigation council. Uh and so for mix like this, they would typically not use the city attorney, city attorney firm. They want all form of outside counsel, a fresh set of eyes, as they would say, uh to come in and take a look at that. That has occurred. Uh Elizabeth and I have talked to the about who they would suggest. They've suggested the firm that is actually representing three other cities that have been sued by the same uh plaintiff by the same organization by the I'm going to get the name wrong but by the Minnesota Center for Environmental Advocacy which is the PL in this case they have lawsuits against three other cities that are related to um to data centers. And so the firm that's representing those other other cities is familiar with this kind of litigation, familiar with the claims uh that this plaintiff has brought. And so it's the appropriate uh we think uh a lawyer to law firm to represent the city. So Elizabeth and I have gone ahead and approved that appointment. Just the last thing about that is I I won't be the litigation council. I know what's going on. I'll be able to talk to you occasionally um in the appropriate circumstance about the the litigation, but we'll have another lawyer who will be representing the city in that litigation. the uh the the league's um insurance for cities is very very good. Uh it's better than cities to get if you went out onto the open market and trying to find insurance for municipal corporations. Uh and so it's very good. However, there is a deductible. So you do pay a piece of the cost of litigation and so you should be aware that there will be some cost to you to the city to the taxpayers um related to litigation. It's relatively a modest amount up to a certain this kind of ation is very very expensive. Uh and so it's a it's a certain percentage of the litigation cost up to a certain dollar amount. I think it's $250,000 and then if the litigation goes over that your percentage actually goes up a little bit. Uh and so you should be aware that there will be some cost to the to the litigation. So I just want to get that out uh for the benefit of the public and for all of you to understand sort of how the ground rules will work for that. I'll know again what's going on, but I'm not going to do the worstation. Uh I think mayor, that is the only thing I needed to report on. Uh and I can ask answer your questions. >> Thank you. Congratulations on this. >> Yeah, that's very kind of you. Thank you so much. Yeah, very cool. >> All right, we'll move to claims. Second motion second David's I move us into department updates anything on your end Elizabeth >> keep cracking away downstairs so um welcome back >> had a great time in Albert and I appreciate the ability role there. Um, again, that was I went to conference um, national conference for small and rural libraries and I got a grant that covered all of that. So, that was lovely to be able to do something that people uh, this month most of my stuff is in my report. I'm just going to highlight three things. Uh, style is back. So, anyone who likes to do spelling or likes to drink beer or likes to do both or just watch people do both um feel free to come up to Sakai Southeast. The next two um spelling days will be on November 13th and December 11th. Uh sign up start at 5:30 that evening and spelling will start at 6. Uh otherwise for programming story time and music and movement is happening on Wednesday mornings. They alternate Wednesdays. I think this tomorrow is going to be a story time and then the following will be music and movement in the all are welcome. Um that's usually centered towards preschool and toddlers. Um but we've got other people who've been there before too and that's kind of fun. So we hope to see other people there as well. Otherwise um talking to everyone here I have an opening on the board coming up in after December. So if you want to serve your community, consider uh serving on our library board. We meet every other month. Um and a lot of good things are happening there. So uh thank you very much. We I like to thank Cole Carol Rizzo. She's been on the board for nine years and so she's reached the end of her third tour, which is our true limit, but she's going to continue to serve on the SLO board. So, the Rachel Mer report. Um, so we're thankful that she's going to stick around for that. But yeah, she's uh aged out as they say. >> I like that term. >> Yes. Any questions? >> Well, thank you very much. >> Thank you so much. Works for the word. Yes, mayor if I may. Um, jumping on public park board. So, there's some exciting things happening be that we got a grant to replace playground park. Uh, the park board has also approved um for the playground equipment at Collins Park to be replaced and we are looking at kind of like an obstacle course ninja course for equipment. So, just something different that we don't have. So, that's exciting. updates. So, >> Oh, yes. And the dog park. So, the dog park is like 98%. >> Yes. And uh the park uh approved the name and we approved the signage. So, we just waiting for the signage to come in. >> Oh, sign came in today. So, hopefully by the weekend we will be able to open up. We um have approval approvals from the company and everything like that. So, everything Um I can't >> fire department sheriff's office and I want to do one more thank you for the pillars that was very much appreciated. So I have one more uh so for the north sanwer district so I reported last month that uh this the sewer district was able to present to the senate uh bonding bill committee so it's called the capital investment committee and so we just found out as well that we'll be presenting before the house um capital investment committee on November 6. Yes. >> Frustrating some days, but we're working. So, we'll take a motion to adjourn. Thank you everybody tonight. We have a motion and a second. All in favor? I. Thank you everybody.