[1:17] . >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE TUESDAY APRIL 8TH [1:24] HRA BOARD MEETING. FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE SECOND [1:33] MOTION MADE BY WOOTEN AND SECONDED BY DUBLINER. [1:41] ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR I OPPOSED. NO I'M ACTUALLY NOT VOTING ON [1:49] THIS ONE BECAUSE I WAS NOT HERE. SO IT PASSES 5 TO 0 NEXT IS [1:56] THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. ARE THERE ANY EDITS OR CHANGES [2:04] ? OKAY. OKAY SO WE MADE A MOTION TO [2:10] APPROVE SECOND AND SECOND BY WHO CAME ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? [2:18] I ALL RIGHT. PASSES 520. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ORGANIZATIONAL [2:25] BUSINESS [2:32] . GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS EMILY HORSEBACK. I'M A PLANNER. [2:39] I HAVE BEEN HERE ONCE BEFORE IN DECEMBER AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CO-LIVING ORDINANCE [2:47] WHICH AGAIN NICK JOHNSON AND I WERE HERE IN DECEMBER TO KIND [2:52] OF GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ON A DRAFT ORDINANCE AND NOW WE HAVE A FINAL ORDINANCE. [2:59] SO JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT TIMELINE. THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR [3:06] ALMOST A YEAR NOW SO WE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION A FEW TIMES AND NICK I THINK CAME TO [3:14] THE HRA BOARD LAST SUMMER AND THEN NICK AND I CAME IN DECEMBER AND YOUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. [3:21] WE'VE BEEN TO COUNCIL FOR STUDY SESSIONS AND THEN WHERE WE'RE HEADED IS A FINAL PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL AT THE END [3:26] OF APRIL. LOOK, I KNOW YOU COULD I NEVER [3:39] KNOW IF IT'S JUST LIKE LAGGING AND I'M GOING TO SKIP LIKE FOR SCIENCE OR IF IT'S A [3:49] OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THE WHY WHY CO-LIVING. [3:56] SO FIRST THE CONNECTION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GOALS IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT WHICH [4:01] RELATE TO CO-LIVING AND THAT'S TO PROVIDE A RANGE OF HOUSING CHOICES. [4:07] SO THIS IS PROVIDING HOUSING CHOICES THAT COULD HAVE FLEXIBLE LEASES WITH A 30 DAY [4:14] MINIMUM GOOD FOR STUDENTS SENIORS MOBILE PROFESSIONALS AND ALSO CO-LIVING COULD [4:21] SUPPORT PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS COULD MEET 30% AMI [4:28] LEVELS WHICH IS DEEPLY AFFORDABLE AND WHICH IS THE SECTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING [4:36] THAT BLOOMINGTON HAS STRUGGLED WITH A LITTLE BIT. SO OVERALL IT'S JUST ADDING TO THE SPECTRUM OF HOUSING POSSIBILITIES WHICH IS A [4:42] POSITIVE THING [4:49] . I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE ALL OF WHAT'S IN THE [4:54] ORDINANCE AND IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT A SECTION WE CAN GO THROUGH [5:02] THAT. BUT MOSTLY I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE. MAYBE THANK YOU. [5:12] SO DEFINITIONS WISE WE ARE CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY AND I THINK LAST TIME WE HADN'T DECIDED ON A [5:20] DEFINITION NOW WE DECIDED TO TRY TO BE VERY INCLUSIVE WHERE [5:28] WE ARE ALLOWING SIX OR FEWER ADULTS OR ANY NUMBER OF ADULTS WHO ARE ALL RELATED TO EACH OTHER ALONG WITH ANY MINOR [5:33] CHILDREN IN THEIR CARE. THIS ALLOWS FOR NOT ONLY MORE [5:39] ROOMMATE SITUATIONS WHERE IT CAN BE SIX ADULTS WHO AREN'T RELATED BUT ALSO MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR [5:46] MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILIES. ONE CHANGE THAT WE MADE TO THE CO-LIVING DEVELOPMENT DEFINITION IS THAT THE [5:53] DEFINITION IS NOW CALLING OUT THAT IN ORDER TO BE A CO-LIVING DEVELOPMENT IT NEEDS TO HAVE FIVE OR MORE CO-LIVING UNITS. [5:58] THIS IS TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY HOUSING AND THEN ADDITIONALLY THE [6:03] DEFINITION OF CO-LIVING UNIT CHANGE TO SPECIFY THAT THE KITCHEN WILL BE SHARED AND COOKING FACILITIES SUCH AS [6:09] LIKE A STOVE WILL NOT BE INCLUDED AND EACH LIKE UNIT OR BEDROOM AS FAR AS YOUTH [6:19] STANDARDS GO NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED THERE OTHER THAN WE DID DECIDE TO PUT THE [6:27] REQUIREMENT THAT EACH UNIT WILL BE AT LEAST 70FT AS A MINIMUM AND ADDITIONALLY WE [6:34] MADE THE REQUIREMENT THAT A KITCHEN MUST BE ON THE SAME FLOOR AS A UNIT FOR ACCESSIBILITY PURPOSES. [6:41] AS FAR AS LIKE USE TABLES AND WHERE THINGS ARE PERMITTED OR NOT CO-LIVING DEVELOPMENTS ARE [6:49] ALLOWED WITH THE SAME PERMISSIONS IN THE SAME DISTRICTS THAT MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS ARE ALLOWED [6:55] IN RENTAL CODE AMENDMENTS ARE JUST MATCHING THE ZONING CODE. SO KIND OF ADDING SOME DEFINITIONS IN THERE AND THEN OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE [7:04] AMENDMENTS ARE JUST ALLOWING FOR SOME POTENTIAL FLEXIBILITY WHERE CO-LIVING MAY MEET THE [7:13] REQUIREMENTS AND THEN DELETIONS ARE JUST DELETING SOME OLD DEFINITIONS AND KIND [7:20] OF MOVING THE CO-LIVING UNIT INTO A NEW SECTION. WE'LL. [7:27] SO HOW IS THIS ORDINANCE REMOVING BARRIERS TO HOUSING? I HAVE TOUCHED ON SOME OF THESE THINGS BUT AGAIN CHANGING THE FAMILY DEFINITION [7:35] AND ALLOWS FOR MORE FLEXIBLE LIVING SITUATIONS FOR FAMILIES OR FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT RELATED CREATING A CO-LIVING [7:42] USE WITH STANDARD THAT ARE RESPONSIVE TO UNIQUE CARE [7:48] CHARACTERISTICS OF HOUSING TYPES ARE RECOGNIZING THAT CO-LIVING IS DIFFERENT THAN OTHER HOUSING TYPES. [7:54] WE HAVE IN KIND OF BEEN FLEXIBLE WITH THAT AGAIN ADDING INCENTIVES FOR CO-LIVING WHERE AFFORDABILITY [8:00] REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. AND THEN LASTLY AGAIN ALLOWING [8:06] DIVERSITY AND VARIETY OF HOUSING POSSIBILITIES FOR RESIDENTS. >> SO WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS APPROVAL OF THE [8:15] LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF YOU AND ALSO WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET. [8:20] SO THIS IS A LETTER TO GIVE TO COUNCIL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING [8:25] SHOWING THAT THE HRA BOARD IS IN SUPPORT OF THE CO-LIVING ORDINANCE. [8:32] AND YEAH LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COMMENTS [8:50] ? SARA COHEN THANK YOU CHAIR SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. [8:57] SO YOU MENTIONED THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE THE KITCHEN ON THE SAME FLOOR AS THE LIVING UNITS. [9:04] SO THEN BASICALLY WE WOULD BE SAYING THAT THIS COULDN'T BE LIKE A MULTI STOREY UNLESS THERE WAS A KITCHEN ON BOTH [9:12] FLOORS. CHAIR COMMISSIONER CARTER THAT IS CORRECT. SO I MEAN IT COULD BE HOWEVER MANY STORIES BUT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A KITCHEN ON EACH [9:19] FLOOR. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE THING I WOULD WANT US TO JUST KIND OF MONITOR LIKE DOES THAT [9:24] PROHIBIT LIKE PREVENT UNITS FROM BEING DEVELOPED BECAUSE [9:31] IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO PUT ANOTHER KITCHEN IN WHEN I MEAN I'M JUST IMAGINING LIKE, YOU KNOW A HOUSE THAT COULD BE TURNED INTO A I GUESS IT NEEDS [9:39] TO BE FIVE OR MORE RIGHT BUT A PLACE FOR FIVE INDIVIDUALS AND IF THERE WAS A KITCHEN ON THE [9:45] BOTTOM AND THEN TWO LIVING AND THEN THREE ON TOP, YOU KNOW, LIKE WOULD IT PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM HAPPENING? SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CONCERN. [9:52] AND THEN FOR THE PARKING WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION IS A HALF A SPACE PER ONE CO-LIVING [9:57] UNIT AND THEN IT'S MENTIONED THAT IT IS MORE RESTRICTIVE IN THE NOTES IS THAT CHAIR [10:08] COMMISSIONER CARTER DO YOU MORE RESTRICTIVE COMPARED TO I GUESS LIKE OTHER CITIES WE WERE COMPARED TO LIKE HALF A [10:17] SPACE PER QUALITY? YEAH. THE MORE RESTRICTIVE SIDE OF THE RANGE OF COMMUNITIES RESEARCH YES. YEAH. SO WE TRIED TO TAKE THE [10:23] RESEARCH THAT WE GOT AND THEN KIND OF PUT IT IN A BLOOMINGTON CONTEXT AND ALSO [10:30] WHEN WE WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT THAT NUMBER THE .050.5 I THINK [10:41] TOO RESTRICTIVE OR NOT BEING HIGH ENOUGH. OH YES. [10:49] OKAY. THAT'S KIND OF A COMPROMISE, RIGHT? A LITTLE BIT. AND ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF KIND OF A WAIT AND SEE LIKE KIND [10:57] OF SEEING HOW IT ACTUALLY PLAYS OUT. OKAY. OH GOSH. SORRY. [11:05] THAT'S FROM A DO NOT STORE RUN POTENTIAL SPAM IS CALLING ME AGAIN SO YEAH I GUESS MY [11:11] PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE I MEAN I KNOW PARKING IS THE COST OF PARKING IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND SO YOU KNOW IF WE CAN [11:19] REDUCE LIKE MAKE IT NOT AS RESTRICTIVE I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM A LOT [11:26] OF PLACES RIGHT NOW SO I GUESS FOR NOW I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE FOR A WAIT WITH A WAIT AND SEE [11:31] APPROACH BUT I ANTICIPATE WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO REVISIT IT IN THE FUTURE AND REDUCE [11:37] THAT RESTRICTION. SO THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. WERE YOU DONE OKAY. [11:45] MY QUESTION HAS TO MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE LIVING ENVIRONMENT. THE MAX IS SIX PER FACILITY, [11:52] RIGHT? SIX PER HOUSEHOLD CHAIR COMMISSIONER AND THAT'S FOR [11:58] LIKE SINGLE AND TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS. SO YEAH, CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY WOULD [12:06] ALLOW FOR YOUR CORRECT A MAXIMUM OF SIX UNRELATED PEOPLE. SO MY MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH LIVABILITY AND SPACE SO [12:14] IF THE COOKING OR OR EATING AREA IS GOING TO BE ON THE SAME FLOOR AS IS, HOW IS THE [12:22] LIVING AREAS? HOW MANY BEDROOMS, HOW MANY BATHROOMS WITH THAT MANY PEOPLE? [12:29] MAX A CHAIR COMMISSIONER WOOTEN SO THE REQUIREMENT FOR A KITCHEN ON EVERY LEVEL IS FOR A CO-LIVING DEVELOPMENT SO [12:37] WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR A SINGLE OR TWO FAMILY HOUSE IF THERE'S LIKE SIX PEOPLE LIVING THERE [12:44] WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT LIKE A ROOMMATE SITUATION. IS THAT KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? [12:51] NOT QUITE. OKAY AND MAYBE I DIDN'T ASK IT CORRECTLY SO LET ME CLARIFY THIS WAY HOW MANY BEDROOMS WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE BEING IN A SINGLE FAMILY SITUATION [12:59] WHERE THERE'S SIX PEOPLE IS A MAX GOTCHA CHAIR COMMISSIONER [13:05] WU AND I THINK THAT HAS TO DO MORE WITH LIKE OUR BUILDING CODE STANDARDS AND PERHAPS ALSO OUR RENTAL HOUSING [13:13] STANDARDS. SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER TO THAT BUT I MEAN THERE ARE STANDARDS IN PLACE [13:20] THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY IN THE ZONING CODE BUT THAT HAVE TO DO WITH OCCUPANCY AND YEAH SO [13:28] FOR CLARIFICATION MY UNDERSTANDING IS USUALLY AS TO TWO PERSONS PER ROOM IF IT'S NOT AS OUR SCENARIO WE ARE A [13:36] COUPLE BUT EVEN WITH THAT THREE BEDROOMS MINIMUM HOW MANY BATHROOMS 12I MEAN THE [13:43] THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE ENVIRONMENT NOT BE SO RESTRICTIVE THAT YOU HAVE ONE [13:50] AREA WHERE THERE'S A SPACE FOR COOKING. YOU HAVE SIX PEOPLE TOTAL AND THERE'S NO UP OR DOWN LEVELS [13:58] FOR A LIVING. SO IT CREATES A IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY IN THAT ENVIRONMENT THAN THAN [14:06] WOULD BE NORMALLY COMFORTABLE FOR A FAMILY. MHM. SO THAT'S JUST MY PERSPECTIVE [14:13] . YEAH. CHAIR COMMISSIONER WOOTEN THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. THAT'S A FAIR POINT. I WILL SAY THAT WE DID WORK [14:21] WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIVISION THROUGH THIS SO THEY WERE KIND OF COMFORTABLE WITH [14:26] THIS NUMBER AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DO RENTAL INSPECTIONS NOT SAYING IT'S PERFECT BUT I KNOW THAT I FEEL [14:33] BETTER FOR HEARING FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY OUT IN THE FIELD AND KNOWING THAT [14:40] SOMETIMES THEY DO SEE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS AND THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, WANT US TO KIND OF ALLOW THAT. [14:50] I'LL RESERVE THE THIRD COMMENT. I'M I HAVE IF I'VE READ [14:56] CORRECTLY WHEN IT'S A DEVELOPMENT WILL EACH BEDROOM HAVE ITS OWN BATHROOM IN THE [15:01] COMMON SPACE WILL BE THE KITCHEN AND LIVING AREA OR IS THAT JUST DEPEND ON CHAIR [15:08] THINK YEAH IT DEPENDS SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ITS OWN BATHROOM BUT THE COMMON SPACE WILL BE LIKE THE KITCHEN AND [15:15] IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF LOUNGE SPACE SURE. OKAY. [15:22] YES PLEASE. SO I'M GOING TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT IF THERE'S SIX [15:28] PEOPLE IN A HOUSEHOLD IF IF OP OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS THEMSELVES TWO BATHROOMS AT LEAST AND THE LIVABILITY SPACE [15:41] AND THE SPACE WHERE WE'RE FOOD PREPARED IS THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM WITH A SEPARATION SO [15:52] THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FEEDBACK, COMMENTS. [16:01] OKAY. HEARING NONE. MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE CO-LIVING ORDINANCE SO MOVED [16:12] MOVED BY DOUBLING HER SECOND [16:18] AND SECOND BY WHO CAME ALL IN FAVOR? I I OPPOSED MOTION PASSES 620 [16:35] . DID YOU VOTE? OH, THIS EVENING I'M SORRY YOUR VOTING I THINK YOU THINK [16:41] YOU JUST ALL RIGHT SO THERE'S NO NEW BUSINESS SO THE NEXT IS [16:49] DISCUSSION ITEM IS DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE RENTAL HOMES FOR FUTURE HOME [16:56] BUYERS PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND ADMISSION POLICIES. MAY WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT? [17:04] GOOD EVENING, CHAIR COMMISSIONERS IN A SALVADOR ASSISTANT TEACHER ADMINISTRATOR WE ARE RETURNING TONIGHT WITH A CONVERSATION [17:11] THAT INITIATED EARLIER THIS YEAR REGARDING THE RENTAL HOMES FOR FUTURE HOMEBUYERS PROGRAM. WE'VE COMPLETED A REVIEW [17:19] OF THE MANAGEMENT AND ADMISSION POLICIES FOR THE PROGRAM AND ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS OUR PROPOSED CHANGES AND ALSO SEEK [17:25] FEEDBACK FROM YOU AS WE WORK TO FINALIZE THESE UPDATES. [17:31] I DO WANT TO QUICKLY REVISIT THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM SO THE RENTAL HOMES PROGRAM [17:38] SUPPORTS A PATHWAY TO HOMEOWNERSHIP. IT DOES THIS THROUGH AFFORDABLE RENT AND PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM [17:45] ALSO GET ACCESS TO COACHING AND EDUCATION AND A CORE COMPONENT OF THE PROGRAM IS [17:53] THIS SAVINGS TOWARDS A DOWN PAYMENT THAT IS FACILITATED THROUGH AN ESCROW ACCOUNT FOR EACH HOUSEHOLD. [17:58] WE CURRENTLY HAVE 21 ACTIVE RENTAL HOMES AND BASED ON THE [18:05] BOARD'S DECISION EARLIER THIS YEAR THE CURRENT INCOME LIMIT FOR ELIGIBILITY IS BETWEEN 60 AND 80% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME [18:12] AND RENTS ARE SET AT AFFORDABLE RATE AT 50% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME HOUSEHOLD RENT [18:20] AND ESCROW CONTRIBUTIONS ARE RECALCULATED ANNUALLY AT RECERTIFICATION AND LEASE RENEWAL. [18:28] ALSO I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME FUN UPDATES ALREADY IN 2025 WE'VE HAD ONE HOME PURCHASE FROM THE PROGRAM AND [18:35] TWO OTHER HOUSEHOLDS ARE ACTIVELY EITHER BEEN PRE-APPROVED FOR A MORTGAGE AND LOOKING FOR A HOME ARE [18:40] REALLY CLOSE TO CLOSING ON A HOME SO WE WANTED TO SHARE THAT UPDATE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY IN APRIL AND WE ALSO [18:47] TAKEN FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD ARE GOING TO BE OFFERING ADDITIONAL ONE ON ONE [18:54] COUNSELING FOR ALL CURRENT PARTICIPANTS OF THE PROGRAM THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH CAPPY AND PEOPLE. ANOTHER THING I DID WANT TO [19:02] JUST FOLLOW UP ON TO AND OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WE DID RECEIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AS PART [19:10] OF PROGRAM PARTICIPATION AND WE HAVE INITIATED DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PORT BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS [19:16] OF DEVELOPING A BROADER WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY FOR THE FOR THE CITY WIDE AND [19:22] SO WE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEGUN AND POTENTIALLY CONNECT OUR PARTNERS OR OUR PARTICIPANTS WITH THAT WORK. [19:30] THAT'S ALL AND IT'S VERY EARLY STAGES SO WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. [19:37] BUT IT IS UNDER DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF THE ADMISSION AND [19:45] MANAGEMENT POLICIES THEMSELVES. THERE'S FIVE AREAS WHERE STAFF IS PROPOSING CHANGES AND I'LL [19:52] WALK THROUGH EACH OF THEM NOW ALL FIVE OF THE CHANGES ARE ATTEMPTS TO BALANCE THE FACT THAT THIS IS ENTIRELY A LOCAL [19:58] PROGRAM WHICH MEANS WE HAVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY THAN WE DO FOR OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE ADMINISTERED BY THE HRA BUT [20:06] ALSO A LOT MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS MEETING THE HIGH LEVEL GOALS THAT ARE SET FOR IT. HISTORICALLY WE'VE RELIED ON [20:13] HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS TO KIND OF SET A FOUNDATION AND INFORM THIS PROGRAM. BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE [20:21] THAT FLEXIBILITY AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT LOCAL FLEXIBILITY FOR THIS LOCAL PROGRAM WHEREVER POSSIBLE. [20:31] THE FIRST ONE I'LL GO INTO IS THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSING TO MOVE TO A MORE TRADITIONAL [20:36] LISA MODEL RATHER THAN RELYING ON A WAITING LIST PRIMARILY [20:41] BECAUSE THE SUCCESS RATE WITH OUR WAITING LIST IS INCREDIBLY LOW FOR A FEW REASONS BUT MORE RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN SEEING [20:49] THAT WE ARE JUST NOT GETTING RESPONSES WHEN WE REACH OUT TO [20:54] PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE WAITING LIST THEY'RE ALSO THEIR INCOMES ARE TOO LOW TO BE TO QUALIFY FOR THE PROGRAM OR [21:01] THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CAN MOVE FROM THEIR EXISTING LIKE THEIR CURRENT HOUSING SITUATION WHICH MEANS WE'RE CONTACTING A [21:08] LOT MORE HOUSEHOLDS TO FILL A SINGLE UNIT WHICH JUST ADDS TIME FOR THE LEASE UP PROCESS MOVING TO A MORE TRADITIONAL [21:16] LISA MODEL MEANS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH HOUSEHOLDS WHO ARE IN A LIKE IN A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE READY TO MOVE. [21:23] THEY'RE ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE PROGRAMMATIC COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM AND INTERESTED IN THE HOME OWNERSHIP AND [21:28] HOMEBUYING PROCESS AND THE THE [21:35] WE'RE INCORPORATING A MORE EQUITABLE PROCESS BY USING A [21:43] LOTTERY TO RANDOMLY SELECT FROM ELIGIBLE APPLICATIONS SO THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE WITH THE NEW PROCESS AND WE'RE [21:48] HOPING THIS STREAMLINE ENDS THE LEASE UP SIGNIFICANTLY SIGNIFICANTLY FOR STAFF WHILE [21:55] ALSO ALLOWING US TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE IN HOW WE'RE MARKETING ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS FOR EACH OF OUR [22:00] PROPERTIES WHEREVER WE CAN. >> ALSO WE ARE PROPOSING TO [22:08] ALIGN OUR DEFINITION OF FAMILY THAT'S USED FOR THIS PROGRAM TO THE CITY'S DEFINITION OF FAMILY THAT'S CURRENTLY AS [22:15] YOU JUST HEARD BEING UPDATED THROUGH THE CO-LIVING ORDINANCE. PREVIOUSLY WE WERE USING THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER [22:22] DEFINITION OF FAMILY WHICH CONSIDERS A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT JUST ARE NOT [22:28] RELEVANT TO THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE SERVED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM AND KIND OF HAD A LOT OF ADDITIONAL DETAIL THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY RELEVANT [22:35] FOR THE RENTAL HOMES PROGRAM. SO WE SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALIGN THIS PROGRAM WITH THE CITIES WHERE [22:42] THE CITY IS HEADED WITH THEIR DEFINITION OF FAMILY. >> THE NEXT ONE IS ONGOING [22:49] INCOME LIMIT. SO CURRENTLY THE PROGRAM HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT IF THE HOUSEHOLDS INCOME GOES ABOVE [22:57] OUR INCOME LIMITS THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MOVE. AS STEPH WAS REVIEWING THIS WE THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS [23:05] IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH SOME OF THE UNDERLYING GOALS OF THE PROGRAM WHICH IS FINANCIAL SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND HOMEOWNERSHIP READINESS. [23:12] WE RECOGNIZE THAT AN INCREASED INCOME IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR BUYING A HOME BUT IT'S ONLY ONE OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT [23:17] FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT CONSIDERATION. SO WHILE THEIR INCOME GO UP THEY MAY STILL NEED TIME TO DO [23:24] WORK ON THEIR CREDIT OR COMPLETE THOSE EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS. AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING AT THIS [23:30] TIME TO JUST REMOVE THAT LANGUAGE ENTIRELY. WE ALSO SEE IT AS A BENEFIT IF [23:35] THEIR INCOME GOES UP THAT JUST MEANS THEY'RE ABLE TO SAVE MORE FOR THEIR DOWN PAYMENT ULTIMATELY. SO THAT'S THE THE THINKING BEHIND THAT ONE. [23:43] AND THEN WE ALSO ARE TAKING SOME LANGUAGE FROM HOUSING [23:50] FIRST OUT TO YOU AGAIN BUT JUST TO KIND OF DEFINE SOME TEMPORARY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TEMPORARY AND PERMANENTLY ABSENT FAMILY [23:56] MEMBER AND THIS IS MORE JUST TO PROVIDE CLARITY FOR STAFF [24:02] IS AS TO WHAT INCOME WE WOULD COUNT IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS AND WHAT INCOME WE WOULD NOT COUNT DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE. [24:09] AND THEN THE LAST PROPOSED CHANGES AROUND FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND WE KIND OF SEE THE GOAL OF THIS AS A HOUSING [24:17] STABILITY MECHANISM WITHIN THE PROGRAM. SO IT CREATES AN AVENUE FOR A HOUSEHOLD TO REMAIN IN THE [24:24] UNIT AND PAY THEIR RENT AS THEY NAVIGATE A CHALLENGING FINANCIAL SITUATION FOR THEIR FAMILY. THE ULTIMATELY WOULD BE THAT [24:32] WHEN THE HOUSEHOLD ULTIMATELY LEAVES THE PROGRAM THEY'RE NOT STARTING OFF IN THE NEGATIVE WITH A SIGNIFICANT BALANCE [24:38] OF UNPAID RENT WHEN THEY LEAVE OUR PROGRAM AND TO QUALIFY FOR THIS EXEMPTION THE HOUSEHOLD [24:44] WOULD HAVE TO BE THE HARDSHIP WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED LONG TERM WHICH MEANS IT'S [24:51] LASTING OVER 90 DAYS AND OTHERWISE THE HOUSEHOLD WOULD NEED TO BE ON TRACK FOR MEETING PROGRAM GOALS AND [24:58] THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY'VE EXHAUSTED ALL OTHER FORMS OF EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE IF THEY MEET THOSE THREE [25:05] CRITERIA THEY WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO ACCESS ANY ESCROW SAVINGS THAT THEY HAVE ACCUMULATED TO THAT DATE TO [25:12] COVER ANY BACK RENT POTENTIALLY OR FUTURE RENT FUTURE MONTH'S RENT SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO STAY ON TRACK [25:17] WITH THEIR RENT PAYMENTS. WE ALSO INCORPORATED SOME [25:24] OTHER KIND OF CLARIFYING LANGUAGE MOSTLY DOCUMENTING OUR EXAMINATION APPOINTMENT PROCESS BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT [25:32] PREVIOUSLY INCLUDED IN THE MANUAL AND THEN ADDING A DEFINITION OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY ACTIVITY WHICH IS [25:40] HELPS AGAIN PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE CLARITY AND THEN WE ALIGNED OUR RENT COLLECTION POLICIES WITH CURRENT STATE LAW WE'RE NOW [25:48] GOING TO TRANSITION INTO THE DISCUSSION PORTION. THERE'S A FEW QUESTIONS ON THE [25:55] SCREEN AND THOSE ARE JUST MORE MEANT TO GUIDE THE DISCUSSION BUT REALLY WE'RE SEEKING FEEDBACK ON THOSE PROPOSED CHANGES OR IF THERE'S OTHER [26:03] ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO INCORPORATE. COMMISSIONER WOOTEN I HOPE [26:11] HE'S THE FIRST COMMISSIONER WE SAY OH THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. YEAH I JUST HAD A FEW COMMENTS SO FIRSTLY I AM IN SUPPORT [26:18] OF AND I COMMEND THE IDEA OF CHANGING KIND OF THE INCOME LIMIT ASPECT OF THIS BECAUSE [26:25] YOU KNOW YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO INCENTIVIZE GOOD GOOD DECISIONS, RIGHT? AND PEOPLE HAVING THE ABILITY TO MAKE THOSE GOOD DECISIONS [26:31] AND HAVING A SURPLUS, I COMMEND THAT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA BUT I AM JUST A LITTLE BIT [26:37] CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOTTERY ASPECT. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GUYS WOULD KIND OF WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST HELP SAVE LIKE TIME ADMINISTRATIVE [26:44] TIME BUT IT IS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING BECAUSE YOU KNOW IF SOMEONE KIND OF WENT IN EARLY ON AND WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE [26:52] PROCESS AND DID THE STEPS, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO KIND OF GET IN FIRST. I UNDERSTAND IT'S DIFFICULT [27:00] BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CAN I [27:07] ACTUALLY HELPS OH YEAH. CHAIR COMMISSIONERS I JUST IF I COULD JUST QUICKLY CLARIFY [27:12] SO PREVIOUSLY WE HAD HAD A WAITLIST WHERE SOMEBODY WOULD FORMALLY APPLY AND THEN BE ON [27:18] A VERY LONG TERM WAITLIST. PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE HAD SUCCESS IS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT WAITLIST OPEN SINCE 2018 AND SO THIS PROPOSED [27:26] CHANGE WOULD BE IT'S IT WOULD BE A LIMITED OPENING OF APPLICATIONS. [27:32] SO LIKE TEN DAYS, TWO WEEKS, A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING THE VERY FIRST PERSON WHO COMES IN THE [27:38] DOOR IT WOULD BE LIKE WITHIN THAT LIMITED APPLICATION PERIOD SO YOU'D STILL BE ALLOWING FOLKS WHO ARE YOU [27:45] KNOW, MORE READY BASED ON WE WOULD HAVE LIKE AN INTEREST LIST AS OPPOSED TO A WAITLIST. SO YOU STILL HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE MORE READY AND WHO ARE [27:50] INVESTED AND RESPONDING QUICKLY TO AN OPEN APPLICATION WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO [27:56] THAT OPENING BUT THEN WITHIN THAT IT WOULD JUST WOULDN'T BE THE VERY FIRST PERSON TO BE READY. SO IT DOES ALLOW A LITTLE BIT [28:04] OF SPACE FOR FOLKS TO BASICALLY COLLECT THEIR DOCUMENTS IN AND SUBMIT A FORMAL APPLICATION AND THAT'S WHEN THE LOTTERY WOULD BE [28:09] APPLIED. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT KIND OF A MIX BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT [28:14] OPTIONS WE HAVE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF IN BETWEEN. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR YEAH, [28:20] THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ALSO ADD TO IS BECAUSE WE WOULD BE DOING THIS [28:25] FOR EACH VACANCY THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR THAT SAME HOUSEHOLD TO APPLY MULTIPLE TIMES IN THE SAME YEAR [28:31] DEPENDING ON HOW MANY VACANCIES WE HAVE. SO JUST BECAUSE THEY APPLIED [28:36] IN ONE LOTTERY DOESN'T EXCLUDE THEM FROM APPLYING FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT SAME POTENTIAL TIME PERIOD. SO THAT YES SO I'M ACTUALLY [28:45] GOING TO TAG ON COMMISSIONER HE SAID HIS CONCERN THERE ARE [28:52] PEOPLE WHO SIT ON LOTTERY LISTS FOR A WHILE AND FOR WHATEVER REASON RULES GET CHANGED AND THEY GET PURGED [28:59] OFF AND GET FRUSTRATED AND SO THEY MAY NOT APPLY BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ON FOR SO LONG. [29:06] THAT COUPLED WITH THE FACT OF HOW WE'RE GOING ABOUT DOING THIS MARKETING A WE'RE GOING TO THIS MARKETING THAT'S A [29:13] CONCERN I HAVE FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BUT THOSE ARE TWO FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS THAT THAT KIND OF CONCERN ME. [29:20] THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONER WOODEN I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS FOR MOVING AWAY FROM THE WAITING [29:29] LIST PROCESS IS THAT IT WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THEY WOULD THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING ON THE LIST BY THE TIME THEY [29:34] WERE SELECTED. THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED AND THEY'RE EITHER NO LONGER INTERESTED OR WE CAN'T [29:41] GET A HOLD OF THEM. AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND MOVING TOWARDS LIKE AN APPLICATION [29:47] FOR EACH HOUSE WHEN IT BECOMES VACANT SO THAT IT'S A MORE ACTIVE LIST. [29:54] AND THEN YEAH, I HAD ANOTHER THOUGHT BUT I LOST IT SO GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTIONS AND I CAN SO ALONG THAT LINE [30:02] ALL I SEE THIS IS IS AN UPGRADED VERSION OF THE WAITING LIST. WE BASICALLY ARE PUTTING THE [30:09] WORD OUT WHEN THERE'S A SPACE AVAILABLE PEOPLE BUY A LOTTERY. THEY DON'T GET ON IT. SO THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME [30:17] THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE YOU OUT OF OUT OF THE GAME UNTIL THEY GO TO ANOTHER OPENING. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALL [30:23] THAT DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINALLY WAITING LIST ONLY THAT IT'S A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. [30:29] SO I GUESS I CAN'T SIT HERE AND AVOID THAT ANY MORE DIRECT THAN I HAVE AND AS MY OPINION MAY NOT BE ANYBODY ELSE'S BUT [30:36] THAT'S MINE AND I'VE WORKED IN THIS FIELD AND I'VE SEEN HOW WE LIST DISILLUSIONED FOLKS FROM BEING ACTIVELY ABLE [30:44] TO GET INVOLVED WITH THINGS SO SO YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT MY OPINION WOULD BE ON THAT COMMISSION. [30:54] I ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MARKETING. THAT WAS THE OTHER COMPONENT OF YOUR COMMENT. >> SO WITH EACH WITH EACH [31:02] OPENING WE WOULD IMPLORE AN AFFORDABLE AFFIRMATIVE MARKETING PLAN IS WHAT IT'S [31:10] CALLED AND GENERALLY HOW THAT WORKS IS WE DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHO WE ARE CURRENTLY SERVING WHO HAS APPLIED IN THE PAST AND WHO ARE LIKE COMPARE [31:17] THAT TO THE POPULATION OF THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CITY ARE REPRESENTED WITH THE [31:25] APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING AND THEN DO TARGETED MARKETING AS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S REFLECTED IN IN SUBSEQUENT OPENINGS [31:32] WHETHER IT'S MARKETING BE CULTURALLY SENSITIVE. YES, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES IS TO MAKE [31:37] SURE THAT FOLKS WHO ARE NOT REPRESENTATIVE IN HOMEOWNERSHIP HAVE A CHANCE [31:43] TO TRULY BE INVOLVED AND THAT'S ANOTHER CONCERN OF THIS ,YOU KNOW, NEW UPGRADED TYPE OF MARKETING BUT PROBABLY A [31:51] LITTLE BIT MORE EMOTIONAL THAN THAT TO MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE. YOU MENTIONED A POINT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS WASTED AND [31:59] CONSIDERED TO BE RELEVANT AND I COULD ME OVER THE SLIDE YOU PUT OUT THERE BUT YOU REMEMBER THAT POINT I BELIEVE IT WAS THE THE INCOME LIMITS, THE [32:06] ONGOING INCOME LIMITS AND I DIDN'T MAKE IT I DIDN'T MAKE ANY GOOD NOTE OF THAT. [32:14] OKAY. SO UNDER FINANCIAL HARDSHIP WHAT SUPPORTS FINANCIALLY ARE YOU LOOKING AT PROVIDING FOR FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THAT [32:21] HARDSHIP PERIOD SO THE FINANCIAL HARDSHIP PROVISION WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ACCESS THEIR ESCROW ACCOUNT SO ANY SAVINGS IN THEIR ESCROW [32:29] ACCOUNT TO COVER RENTAL COSTS TO STAY IN THE UNIT GOOD THAT'S GOOD. [32:36] >> I RELINQUISH OKAY I HAVE ACTUALLY A QUESTION ALONG THAT LINE HOW LONG CAN THEY ACCESS [32:44] THEIR ESCROW FOR HARDSHIP? I MEAN AT WHAT POINT DOES IT BECOME THEIR MONEY'S GONE? IS IT A CASE BY CASE BASIS IS [32:52] A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONTHS? YEAH. THANK YOU CHAIR FOR THAT QUESTION. SO THE WAY IT'S OUTLINED CURRENTLY IN THE HARDSHIP [32:59] PROVISION DRAFT IS THAT UNTIL THEY HAVE THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THAT ESCROW ACCOUNT UNTIL EITHER IT'S EXHAUSTED OR THE [33:07] HARDSHIP IS OVER. SO AND THAT OBVIOUSLY WILL VARY FROM SITUATION TO SITUATION AND BECAUSE ESCROW [33:14] ACCOUNTS ARE GOING TO RANGE IN THE AMOUNT THAT'S LEFT, IT WOULD BE I THINK THAT WOULD BE [33:22] MORE OF A CONTROL OF WHEN WHEN THEY WOULD THE HARDSHIP WOULD BE OVER. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I THINK WHO CAME WAS NEXT. [33:32] THANK YOU CHAIR WITH THE ABSENT FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO HOUSEHOLD INCOME, CAN YOU EXPAND A [33:38] LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT? I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH THAT BECAUSE I CAN SEE SOME [33:44] CONFUSION AND SOME I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT MAKING SURE WE'RE DOING YEAH. >> THANK YOU CHAIR [33:49] COMMISSIONER WHO HIM KIND OF WHAT THIS IS STRUCTURED MORE IS IT'S BREAKING DOWN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A [33:56] TEMPORARILY ABSENT FAMILY MEMBER AND A PERMANENTLY ABSENT FAMILY MEMBER. SO A COUPLE EXAMPLES THAT COME UP I THINK WITH THIS PROGRAM [34:04] WOULD BE LIKE A STUDENT. SO A COLLEGE STUDENT WHO ISN'T IN THE UNIT FOR MOST OF THE YEAR BUT DOES STILL CONSIDER [34:11] THIS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE OR WOULD BE IN THE UNIT FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MONTHS OF THE YEAR? [34:19] WHAT WHAT THIS POLICY OUTLINES ESSENTIALLY IS THAT THEY WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED A FAMILY MEMBER FOR THAT FIRST YEAR WHEN THEY'RE GONE. BUT THEN AFTER THAT IF THEY'RE [34:26] STILL OUT OF THE UNIT FOR MOST OF THE YEAR AFTER THAT FIRST YEAR THEY WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A FAMILY MEMBER AND THEN WE WOULDN'T COUNT THEIR [34:32] INCOME. SO BUT IF THEY'RE IF FOR THAT FIRST YEAR WHILE THEY'RE GONE [34:37] THEY WOULD WE WOULD COUNT THEIR INCOME FOR EXAMPLE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE SITUATIONS THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED WITH THE PROGRAM. [34:45] OKAY. AND IS IT OKAY IF I PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO LIKE MY MY CONCERN I [34:52] UNDERSTAND THAT AND I TOTALLY GET THAT. BUT ARE WE ALSO THEN CONSIDERING WHEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS [34:58] HAPPENING THAT THIS PERSON COULD BE A TEMPORARY ABSOLUTE [35:03] OR LIKE A TEMPORARY MEMBER IN THE FACT OF IF THAT'S KIND OF MAYBE WHAT PUSHES THEM OVER FOR THE QUALIFICATION BECAUSE [35:10] IT COULD END UP BECOMING A HARDSHIP IF THAT INCOME WAS BASED TO QUALIFY THEM AND THEN THAT INCOME'S NO LONGER [35:16] AVAILABLE LET'S SAY. SO KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING OUR BASIS [35:22] OF GETTING THAT AT DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS AS WHO COULD BE A TEMPORARY MEMBER AND OR AN ABSENT MEMBER. [35:30] YEAH. THANK YOU CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER WHO? HIM I WOULD SAY YEAH IT'S IT'S KIND OF HARD TO ANTICIPATE THAT ALWAYS RIGHT BECAUSE [35:35] CIRCUMSTANCES CAN CHANGE OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD PRETTY DRASTICALLY. [35:41] BUT ONE THING WE DO TRY TO DO THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS REALLY UNDERSTAND [35:46] WHO'S BRINGING INCOME IN THE HOUSEHOLD LIKE WHAT THAT INCOME LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT CAN IMPACT ONGOING ELIGIBILITY IN THE PROGRAM AS BEST AS WE [35:53] CAN AT INITIAL APPLICATION. SO THANK YOU. COMMISSION DOUBLING HER YEAH. [36:01] CAN YOU MOVE TO THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE. YES THIS 1I1 THERE DEFINITIONS [36:07] FOR CRIMINAL CRIMINAL ACTIVITY SEEMS PRETTY VAGUE AND WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS AND [36:15] DEFINITIONS THAT WERE ADDED? >> YEAH THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONER DELLINGER SO THE DEFINITION THAT WE APPLIED TO [36:23] THIS PROGRAM IS THE SAME ONE WE USED FOR THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER PROGRAM AND SO IT'S IT'S PRETTY HIGH LEVEL I MEAN TO BE HONEST WITH YOU AND IT'S [36:28] SOLELY CONSIDERING A VIOLENT CRIME OR DRUG. [36:35] WHAT'S THE CRIME? YEAH. DRUG OFFENSES SO THAT'S THAT'S GENERALLY IT'S YEAH IT'S A [36:42] VERY HIGH LEVEL IT DOESN'T GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL IF THAT MAKES SENSE AS A VARIANCE. [36:50] HOW LONG IS YOUR PERIOD INVOLVED? SORRY NO IT'S LIKE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS OF OTHERS SO [36:57] THANK YOU. SO THAT IS CAPTURED MORE IN OUR SCREENING CRITERIA AND LESS IN THIS ACTUAL DOCUMENT. [37:02] SO OUR SCREENING CRITERIA FOR THE PROGRAM GOES INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL ABOUT LIKE HOW LONG AN OFFENSE CAN BE LIKE ON [37:09] SOMEONE'S RECORD BEFORE WE ARE AND WHETHER WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT. AS FOR ELIGIBILITY OF THE [37:16] PROGRAM, THAT'S NOT IT DOESN'T WE DON'T GO INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN THIS DOCUMENT IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. [37:24] DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO COMMISSIONER DOUBLING YOUR OKAY. SO SO ARE THE ARE THE LAWS [37:31] THAT ARE USED FOR THAT SET BY THE FED THEN OR IF LIKE IF [37:38] SOMETHING CHANGED IN HUD, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND OUR IN THE [37:43] DEFINITION ITSELF DOESN'T ACTUALLY CITE ANY ANY HUD [37:50] REGULATIONS. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST WE'VE ESSENTIALLY TAKEN THE LANGUAGE FROM THE HUD DEFINITION AND [37:58] APPLIED IT TO THIS PROGRAM SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY LIKE TYING IN THE FUTURE. LIKE IF THAT DEFINITION WERE [38:03] TO CHANGE WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE REQUIRED TO CHANGE IT HERE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARTER [38:09] THANK YOU CHAIR SO THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO PAGE 64 IN OUR PACKET I THINK IN IT'S UNDER [38:16] THE PROGRAM INFORMATION CORRECT? THAT'S THE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT SO IT JUST SAYS NOT ENGAGE IN DRUG RELATED [38:21] CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR VIOLENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INCLUDING CRIMINAL ACTIVITY BY ANY FAMILY MEMBER INCLUDING POSSESSION OR USE OF ILLEGAL [38:29] DRUGS BY RESIDENTS OR VISITORS. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER UNDERNEATH IS THE EDIT SAYS VIOLENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IS THAT WOULD YEAH AND WE'RE [38:36] TALKING ABOUT YEAH THAT'S CORRECT OKAY SO IT IS PRETTY HIGH LEVEL AND IT'S MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS. MM HMM. [38:43] YES. THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONER CARTER THIS IS MORE YES. THE DEFINITION OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AS IT'S INCLUDED [38:48] IN THIS IS MORE REFERRING TO ONGOING RESIDENCY AND LESS ABOUT ELIGIBILITY FOR THE PROGRAM THAT IS THE CORRECT [38:54] SECTION AND REALLY ALL WE'RE ADDING IS DEFINING VIOLENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND THE WAY IT'S DEFINED IS THE TWO THINGS [39:02] I MENTIONED THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTION COMMENTS. [39:10] COMMISSIONER WOOTEN ONE LAST THING FOR ME THE CULTURAL PIECE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION [39:17] LAST YEAR AND WE TALKED ABOUT TARGET YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT FOCUSING ON ENSURING WE INCREASE THE HOMEOWNERSHIP FOR [39:25] CERTAIN GROUPS HAVE NOT BEEN A PART OF THE PROCESS BEFORE AND [39:32] I'VE NOT SEEN THAT LANGUAGE IN HERE. I GUESS I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS STILL [39:37] PART OF OUR MISSION AND AND I ACTUALLY WOULD ASK IF THERE'S [39:43] SOME WAY TO BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE THAT ON PAPER SO THAT WE CAN SEE IT. [39:51] THANK YOU, CHAIR. COMMISSIONER WOOTEN I WILL SAY THAT THE THE SECTION OF THE [39:58] DOCUMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS PROVIDES SOME DETAIL ABOUT THE [40:06] AFFIRMATIVE BARGAININ PROCESS THAT I JUST MENTIONED. SO WE DO HAVE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN BUT I AM HEARING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY [40:13] BUILD THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THAT'S WE CAN TAKE THAT NOTE FOR FEEDBACK. APPRECIATE IT. [40:21] I THINK COMMISSIONER CARTER I THINK YOU CAN WE GO TO THE SLIDE ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS. [40:28] OKAY. SO CURRENTLY I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CURRENTLY WE HAVE A WAITLIST AND NOBODY'S [40:35] BEEN ADDED TO IT SINCE 2018 BECAUSE OF HOW LONG IT'S BEEN ACTUALLY. [40:42] THANK YOU CHAIR THAT WE ACTUALLY CLOSED THIS WAITING LIST IN 2023 SO PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS OPEN ALL THE TIME. [40:50] THE WAY THAT IT WAS MARKETED WAS THE SAME WAY THAT WE MARKETED OUR HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHER WAITING LIST. [40:55] SO IT WHAT WE WERE ENCOUNTERING IS THAT WE WERE GETTING APPLICANTS THAT WERE [41:01] JUST INTERESTED IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND NOT NECESSARILY THE HOMEOWNERSHIP COMPONENT OF THE PROGRAM. I THINK THAT'S ALSO WHY WHAT [41:06] WE'RE SEEING NOW WITH THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT WE'RE SELECTING IS THAT THERE TEND TO BE LOWER INCOME THAN WHAT [41:13] THIS PROGRAM IS TARGETING. SO ALL OF THAT KIND OF LED US [41:18] TO CLOSE THIS WAITING LIST TO GIVE US TIME TO REASSESS THE PROGRAM IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. GOT IT. [41:26] OKAY. I GUESS NOW I MEAN LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS FROM FELLOW [41:31] COMMISSIONERS, I'M MY INITIAL INSTINCT WAS THAT IT MADE SENSE TO DO IT KIND OF MORE [41:37] OF A ON A LOTTERY BASIS AND SOMETIMES IT'S ACTUALLY MORE EQUITABLE BECAUSE WE SEE THIS [41:44] WITH THE CHILD THE THE CAMP PROGRAMS IS LIKE THE PERSON WHO CAN BE ONLINE AT 10 A.M. AND GET THE FIRST SPOT OFTEN I [41:51] MEAN LIKE IT JUST IF IF YOU ARE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU CAN'T DO THAT THEN YOU'RE AT [41:58] THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST OR YOU GET ON THE WAITLIST RIGHT AND AND IT'S NOT FAIR AND SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE LATTER APPROACH BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE [42:06] IT KIND OF IT'S A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD LIKE IF YOU COULDN'T BE THE FIRST ONE TO GET ON THE LIST BECAUSE YOU [42:13] KNOW MAYBE YOU HAVE A JOB WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A COMPUTER AND YOU DON'T GET TO TAKE TIME TO SIT ON AND WAIT AND COMPUTER LITERATE. [42:21] YES. YEP. EXACTLY. UM SO SO I GUESS THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING THAT I LIKED THE LOTTERY APPROACH BUT I DO [42:28] TOTALLY AGREE WITH MARKETING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE MARKETING AND OUTREACH IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES AND THAT [42:36] WE'RE WORKING WITH COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW, SHARING WITH THOSE WHO MIGHT BE ON THE [42:43] VOUCHER PROGRAM IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE JUST YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE [42:50] THOROUGH IN OUR OUR MARKETING APPROACH. SO IT'S REALLY AND THAT WE SHOULD BE ASSESSING THAT TOO [42:55] IF WE'RE NOT GETTING A DIVERSE POOL OF APPLICANTS THEN WE SHOULD BE RE REMAP VISIONING [43:01] WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE SO I THINK OTHERWISE I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT I'M A HUGE FAN [43:10] OF REMOVING THE INCOME LIMIT PIECE. UM YEAH I THINK WE ALL AGREE ON THAT ONE. [43:17] SO UM AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS FOR THE ESCROW ACCOUNT IF PEOPLE ARE DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER [43:24] FINANCIALLY CAN THEY ADD MORE MONEY TO THAT? YES. THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONERS YES. SO TECHNICALLY IT'S THEY'RE [43:31] LIKE THEY CAN SAVE THEY CAN PUT MORE IN THAN WHAT THE CALCULATION IS. I THINK GENERALLY THE THE [43:39] THING WE TRY TO BALANCE TOO IS THEY ONLY GET 2% INTEREST ON THE ESCROW ACCOUNT. [43:44] SO IF THEY'RE ABLE TO PUT THAT MUCH IN IT MAY ACTUALLY BE MORE LUCRATIVE TO PUT IT IN. I YIELD SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND [43:51] THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE WITH HOUSEHOLDS WHEN THAT IS A CIRCUMSTANCE. YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHO [43:58] CAME IN YOU ONE LAST QUESTION THAT I KIND OF GOT BROUGHT UP WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS [44:05] THERE GOING TO BE KIND OF LIKE A TIME LIMIT FOR AN APPLICATION WINDOW AND WHAT KIND OF TIME FRAME ARE WE? [44:10] ARE YOU KIND OF PICTURING AT THIS POINT? >> YEAH. THANK YOU CHAIR COMMISSIONER [44:15] WHO HIM GENERALLY OUR PRACTICE WOULD BE ABOUT A TEN BUSINESS [44:22] DAY WINDOW SO TWO WEEKS FOR APPLICATION PERIOD. I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT AND SUGGEST MAYBE A [44:28] LITTLE BIT LONGER. THE ONLY REASON IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP. IT MAY TAKE SOME PEOPLE A [44:34] LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION AS WELL. I THINK WE'RE YOU KNOW I'M I'M [44:40] ASSUMING WE'RE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, PROPER DOCUMENTATIONS, FAIR DOCUMENTATIONS AND IT COULD BE A LOT OF DOCUMENTATIONS FOR SOME [44:45] PEOPLE AND I ALSO THINK THAT GIVES THEM TIME TO REACH OUT TO STAFF IF THEY HAVE ANY [44:51] CONCERNS AND MORE TIME TO DO THAT. SO I WOULD LEAN MORE TOWARDS A 15 TO 20 DAY YOU KNOW, IN MY [44:58] PERSONAL OPINION I KIND OF LOOK AT IT AS YEAH, I LIKE THREE THREE WEEKS AT LEAST YOU KNOW AND INCLUDE THAT AS [45:06] BUSINESS DAYS BECAUSE YEAH BECAUSE YOU DO I CAN SEE PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS [45:14] AND THEY MIGHT JUST MIGHT TAKE LONGER I JUST THAT THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THANK YOU THAT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER [45:21] WHO CAME ON THAT ON THE TIMELINE EXPANDING IT COMMISSIONER DOUBLING HER I JUST HAD A THOUGHT ABOUT THE LOTTERY. [45:29] IF SOMEBODY IS LIKE READY TO GO AND MORE READY THAN OTHER PEOPLE IS IT POSSIBLE TO LIKE WAIT THEIR APPLICATION SO [45:34] THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO BE CHOOSED BUT NOT 100%? IS THAT A I DON'T KNOW. [45:41] YOU STILL PICK AND CHOOSE. THAT'S IT'S NOT FAIR. YEAH I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE LIKE QUANTITATIVE WAYS [45:47] OF MEASURING AND THAT'S WHERE IT GETS REALLY CHALLENGING I [45:54] THINK COMMISSIONER WOOTEN AND THEN CARTER I DON'T WANT TO BE A DEAD HORSE BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE MARKETING [46:01] PIECE AND THE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE IT'S THIS IS THIS THIS [46:06] IS IT FEELS TO ME A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN RELATIONSHIP TO HOW [46:12] WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH THIS LAST YEAR. SO AND I'VE LOOKED AT IN MY NOTES I'M SURE I'LL FIND IT [46:17] ONCE I GO HOME TONIGHT BUT YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S THE PIECE THAT CONCERNS ME MOST. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARTER [46:24] SORRY, JUST CLARIFYING. SO WHEN PEOPLE APPLY THEY JUST KIND OF GENERALLY PUT THEIR NAME IN AND THEN IF THEY'RE CHOSEN THEN THEY WOULD GO [46:31] THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THEIR APPLICATION PAPERWORK. AND THEN I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP [46:36] QUESTION TO THAT WOULD BE THAT IF THEY DO ALL OF THE APPLICATION MATERIALS AND IT DOESN'T WORK BUT THEY COULD [46:43] COME BACK AT A LATER TIME IF THEY'RE CHOSEN AGAIN AND TO COME BACK AT A LATER DATE, CAN THEY DO THEY HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN OR CAN THEY KIND OF START WHERE THEY LEFT OFF? [46:50] DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION. SO WE WOULD DO WHAT WE KIND OF CALL AN INITIAL [46:56] APPLICATIONS OF YOUR BASIC INFORMATION JUST TO DO AN INITIAL SCREENING FOR ELIGIBILITY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOTTERY IS [47:03] INCLUDES ONLY HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM. SO THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF INITIAL APPLICATION FOR THE [47:11] LOTTERY COMPONENT ONCE THEY'RE SELECTED FROM THE LOTTERY THEN WE WOULD DO THAT MUCH MORE IN DEPTH APPLICATION AND GET VERIFICATION DOCUMENTS FOR ALL [47:18] INCOME AND ASSETS AND THAT KIND OF A THING. SO IF GENERALLY IF LIKE [47:26] ANOTHER APPLICATION IS WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD SO OUR OUR RULE OF THUMB IS 90 DAYS THAT WE CONSIDER THAT INCOME [47:33] STILL ACCURATE AND RELEVANT FOR 90 DAYS. SO IT WOULD KIND OF DEPEND ON WHEN THE APPLICATION THE NEXT APPLICATIONS CYCLE IS WHETHER [47:41] OR NOT WE COULD USE THAT SAME INFORMATION THEY ALREADY SUBMITTED. COMMISSIONER WOULDN'T THAT YOU [47:48] OPEN THAT DOOR IF WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF DISPENSE WITH THE INCOME LEVEL OR AT LEAST [47:56] BROADEN INCOME LEVEL THEN WHY WOULD ANYBODY WHO WAS ABLE TO APPLY NOT BE ELIGIBLE PER SAY [48:03] SO? SORRY. JUST TO CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION SO NOT HAVING A CEILING AT ALL [48:08] FOR THE PROGRAM IN TERMS OF INCOME WELL IS IS A TOP CEILING MAYBE BUT NOT A LAW [48:15] THAT THE GREAT BIG ISSUE THAT I HEARD YOU SAY WAS THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T QUALIFIED FROM A STANDPOINT OF HAVING ENOUGH INCOME. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW, [48:22] BASICALLY KIND OF TAKE AWAY THAT THAT THAT FLOOR, WHY WOULD NO ONE BE OTHER UPPER [48:29] LEVEL? WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE ELIGIBLE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM? I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE TO SET THE RENT AND A [48:34] CERTAIN AMOUNT AND SO WE WANT [48:39] TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEREVER WE'RE SETTING THE RENT IS TIED TO THE INCOMES OF THE HOUSEHOLDS WE'RE SERVING IN THE PROGRAM BECAUSE A [48:45] HOUSEHOLD WITH A LOWER INCOME IT WOULD THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THAT. THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM [48:51] INCLUDING PAYING INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT. SO BECAUSE THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE REQUIRED TO PAY [48:58] BASE RENT AND POTENTIALLY BE COST BURDENED SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THAT BASE RENT IF THEIR INCOME IS IS REALLY LOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE. [49:06] WELL CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS TO JUST TO JUST TO CLARIFY SO THE INITIAL SCREENING WOULD STILL HAVE THAT RANGE OF THE [49:13] 60 TO 80% AMI AND THEN THE CHANGE PROPOSED HERE IS THAT THERE BASICALLY WOULDN'T BE AN ANNUAL RECERTIFICATION THAT THEY'RE STILL WITHIN THAT [49:20] RANGE SO THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO INCREASE THEIR INCOME AT A LATER LATER DATE. BUT THE INITIAL SCREENING WOULD STILL INCLUDE MAKING [49:25] SURE THAT THEY'RE WITHIN THAT THAT RANGE. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IF [49:32] THE LOWER RATE YOU JUST SET IT UP A LITTLE BIT RATE SO IT'S A WAY TO KEEP THEM I GUESS I [49:39] HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT IS I MEAN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN INCOME TO QUALIFY [49:46] FOR A MORTGAGE AND SUCH SO WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE PAYING INTO THIS PROGRAM FOR FIVE YEARS WHO'S NOT GOING TO QUALIFY FOR [49:54] A MORTGAGE. I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT I'M JUST THAT'S MY PRACTICAL [50:01] REALTOR BACKGROUND SAYING THAT ADMINISTRATOR YEAH. >> I MIGHT ALSO JUST NOTE [50:08] THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY ALSO FOR AN INCOME DECREASES BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE RENT IS SET AT [50:15] THAT 50% AMI LEVEL BUT WE'RE ACCEPTING FOLKS AT THE 60 TO 80% SO SOME SMALL DECREASE [50:21] WOULD STILL TECHNICALLY FALL WITHIN THOSE AFFORDABILITY LEVELS. SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT [50:27] OF LEEWAY FOR INCOME DECREASES AS WELL. [50:32] SO THERE ARE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OH WELL WE THINK YOU [50:44] OH YEAH YEAH SORRY ONE LAST QUESTION CHAIR COMMISSIONERS JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE DISCUSSION ON THE LOTTERY SO IT SEEMS LIKE FOLKS ARE [50:50] GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE LAID OUT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE KEEP THAT PERIOD OPEN FOR [50:57] THREE WEEKS. I KNOW THAT THE THE LANGUAGE IN THE MANUAL DOESN'T SPECIFY A PERIOD SO WE WILL TAKE NOTE THAT WHEN WE ADMINISTER WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN FOR THREE WEEKS [51:05] AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THE THE PROPOSED CHANGE STILL GIVES US FLEXIBILITY IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME OR IF [51:12] US TOO MUCH TIME WE CAN STILL BE FLEXIBLE WITHOUT NEEDING A MANUAL CHANGE. [51:18] THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. [51:25] SO THE NEXT ITEM IS ADMINISTRÉ UPDATES. [51:30] >> OKAY CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS MY ONLY UPDATE IS THAT WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK INSTEAD OF IN TWO WEEKS [51:37] AND THAT IS THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE PORT SO WE'LL BE DOING MOSTLY INFORMATIONAL ITEMS AT THAT MEETING. [51:45] IT'S THE ALL THINGS HOUSING REPORT AS WELL AS SOME OTHER MARKET INFORMATION AND THEN THERE WILL BE ONE VOTING ITEM ON IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE [51:53] WHOLE WAS FIRST IMPLEMENTED IT WAS FOLLOWING IN A STUDY AND SO THE THE PASSAGE OF THAT [51:59] ORDINANCE REQUIRED THAT IN FIVE YEARS WE DO ANOTHER UPDATED STUDY. SO WE'LL BE DISCUSSING A [52:06] SELECTING CONSULTANT FOR THAT PROCESS. AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN ITEMS AND THEN FOLLOWING THE JOINT MEETING THERE WILL BE A [52:11] SHORT HRA MEETING TO GET THROUGH A COUPLE OF ITEMS. IT'LL BE MOSTLY ITEMS ON [52:17] CONSENT AND SO IT SHOULD BE A FAIRLY FAIRLY SHORT MEETING FOR THE HRA MEETING DIRECTLY FOLLOWING BUT MAKE SURE NOT TO [52:22] LEAVE WHEN WE RECESSED WITH WITH THE PORT. THANK YOU. [52:29] I JUST DON'T HAVE THE MEETING ON THE 22ND CORRECT. NO MEETING ON THE 22ND. IS THAT 6:00 STILL? YEP. [52:34] YEAH. JUST A QUICK NOTE THAT MAKING [52:41] SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS CHECKING THEIR EMAILS AS THE VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION IS COMING UP SO JUST KIND OF A NOTE TO YOU NEED TO RSVP FOR [52:49] IT SO IT'S I THINK THE 29TH OR SOMETHING. SO JUST KIND OF A REMINDER. THANK YOU. [52:56] ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT IS THE END OF OUR AGENDA WE HAVE MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS [53:04] TUESDAY, APRIL 8TH MEETING OF THE HRA BOARD? SOME MOVED MOVED BY WHO CAME [53:10] SECOND AND SECOND BY SAY ALL IN FAVOR. I ALL RIGHT OPPOSED PASSES [53:18] 620. >> MEETING IS ADJOURNED