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City Council Listening Session - November 17, 2025

Bloomington City CouncilWednesday, November 19, 2025
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[0:04] Tonight because he's out of town and I'm the acting mayor tonight. [0:10] Thanks to everybody who's here. We have had three people call ahead to register, I'll go over the ground rules, which I don't really know that well, so bear with me, ok? The one that I do remember is don't talk for more than 5 min so. [0:27] Just remember that because I won't catch that. Yeah, we allow each speaker 5 min to speak, make sure you say your name clearly so we have it for the record and then speaking to the microphone. Please sign your name in in the log after you're done. Thank you. And Karen Linquis is the 1st speaker we have listened. [0:48] Good evening, Karen. Good evening. Hello, I'm back after being here a couple of weeks ago, and I'm here with a proposal idea that I've shared with some of you before in an email, so it might ring familiar, but I think it's such a worth worthwhile idea that I hope by planting the seating. [1:08] Again you'll take it up. So the problem that I've identified that I think needs to be solved is plastic bags at the farmer's market. There, I think all of us can agree there's too many plastic bags. We have them, you know, out of going coming out of our ears practically at home and we bring them to recycle. So the question is how to incentivize. [1:28] Is the vendors at the farmer's market to not use plastic bags and to then decrease the overall use of them at the farmer's market. And really there's two ways. You could penalize or incentivize. Penalize saying there's a five cent charge like they do need for a plastic bag. No one likes to be punished, so the better solution is how can we. [1:48] This is where the program comes in. Names could be the Bloomington Green Grocher program or not quite as catchy the verident vendor or like green Groceher more. So this is a program for Bloomington where you offer for the vendors an incentive to use the plastic. [2:08] That the the paper bags are more expensive than plastic, which is why they use them. So, to try to again incentivize, you offer a discount on the cost of renting one of the booths for the summer. That discount would then offset of course the. [2:28] Increased cost of the paper bags, but then they become a member of the Bloomington Green Groceher program. So there could be signs at each of their booths with nice maybe an apron or a t shirt that they get. So all of us as customers, we go and we want to go to those vendors that are more environmentally friendly that are. [2:48] Taking part of it so that the Bloomington residents or the customers feel good about themselves because they're taking part in this. And then you would hope too, that. [2:59] In year two, there would be peer pressure from, you know, the, those who didn't take part of it, part in the program, they would see the people who did that maybe hadn't, you would hope more customers who were going there and it would gen, you know, eventually hopefully soon lead to NO bags plastic. [3:19] Sick bags being used at the farmer's market. The city could also sell, you know, recyclable grocery bags with the, the logo, Bloomington green groceher. I think it'd be an amazing model. I don't know if any farmers markets around the country anywhere, anywhere do a program like this, but I think it could be a. [3:39] A great program for Bloomington to put into place that could be a model for other cities too, to really be a way to just decrease all of the plastic bags that we have that are, we all know are so damaging for the environment. [3:55] So that is my proposal for you. The Bloomington Green Groceher program. Thank you. It takes a while. Thank you. Do you have any questions? [4:15] So, well, thank you. I believe that we have taken notes on that, right? So we'll follow up on that next person is speaking about social media policy. [4:35] Okay evening, council members and city staff. Tonight I'm here with two concerns that go. [4:51] Directly to leadership, professionalism, and boundaries within the city of Bloomington. One, the mayor's endorsement of device of hate driven rhetoric. Mayor Bussy I've seen your public engagement on social media where you liked posts that used an inflammatory language. [5:08] I was calling certain Bloomington residents and candidates megas, racist, and zenophobes. Along with lies and celebrating the so called extreme loss of candidates with different viewpoints. A mayor publicly endorsementing content that demonizes residents is not leadership. It feels division. [5:28] It encourages hostility and it undermines trust in the community. So my question is this, do you believe it's appropriate for the mayor of Bloomington to endorse rhetoric that labels residents fascist or racist? [5:44] Simply because of different viewpoints. I also want to remind the council of a previous situation. About two and a half years ago I reported a city employee for a social media behavior that blurred professional boundaries. At that time city staff told me the employe employee was walking a fine line because of their online engagement. [6:03] Involved in election related materials and city officials. That was the city's own standard. And now Mayor Bussy and Paul Coat, your public actions closely mirror the very behavior the city previously deemed inappropriate for its employees. If it was a fine line then, the standard should be the. [6:23] Name especially for the mayor. Two, repeated and unexplained monitoring of my wife's personal profile. 2nd concern involves repeated views of my wife's private social media profile by public officials and their associates. We have seen visits from Mayor Busy. [6:43] Corey Busy, Commissioner Paul Coat, council member Mua, and other staff connected to city leadership. So I will ask you directly, why are city officials and their affiliates repeatedly reviewing a private citizen's personal profile? [7:01] What exactly are you looking for? What is the motive behind these patterns? When multiple officials and associates take an unusual interest in a resident's spouse, it raises serious concerns about boundaries, professionalism, and what maybe be occurring behind the scenes. [7:21] This behavior is not reflective of leadership moving in a positive, transparent or respectful direction. And NO resident should ever feel monitored or singled out by officials elected to represent them. In closing, I am not here to exaggerate anything. [7:38] I'm here to point out clear patterns and ask for transparency. Why is the mayor engaging with device of haithful rhetoric online? Rhetoric the city itself previously warned its employees not to engage in. Two, and why are city officials and associates repeatedly viewing my wife's. [7:56] Private profile. Bloomington deserves answers openly and on the record. And I want to close by highlighting the city's own stated values. Bloomington minnesota's core message emphasizes creating a thriving and welcoming community. [8:12] Where residents feel safe. Engaged and connected while also promoting a strong economy and a commitment to diversity equity, and inclusion. The city's values for its people, neighborhoods, and businesses, and the government center on safety. [8:31] Cooperation and respect and a shared vision for the future. Tonight my questions simply asks that our leadership reflect those values in action, not only in words. Thank you and my name is Jonathan Minx. [8:51] Thank you Channel. Do you does console have any questions? Thank you. Next speaker is Emila Palmer about CHW C. [9:06] I. Hi, my name is Pamela Palmer. I have a couple of questions. I believe at tonight's meeting council meeting, you guys are gonna be discussing the listening session guidelines, and I have concerns that. [9:26] It says audio recorded only, NO video or live broadcast. [9:32] For the last few months, there has been a video. So why is that being stopped or is this mistyped? You know, so I don't know which it is because it really helps when you guys are giving feedback to the speaker, even I who follow you extensively. [9:52] Whose voice was that? Who said that? It really helps to see who it comes from. So I'd like to have that clarified. I did not get it clarified when I asked about it and just said nothing has changed. Well, then why is it saying audio? So which is it? And ok, excuse me if I'm. [10:11] But when you get the agenda online, it would be, I think it would be handy. If right in there it would say who to contact to make. [10:26] Register yourself Until it gets posted like yesterday or today or Saturday Sunday whenever, then it showed all these other how to participate and all that. But if somebody's trying to sign up on Friday. [10:43] This didn't exist yet about that. It should be the agenda gets posted way ahead. It would just be nice to make a reservation whatever you call it. Just put it in there and the phone number as it is I called. [11:00] The front desk and they transferred me, but, you know, make things easier, and, oh, what does content neutral mean? I guess I've always been curious, process must be content neutral and yeah. [11:20] More accessible and please, please, please keep the video. And my second question is on the community center. [11:29] Has Hennippan County approved the Penn Avenue exit? I can't get a straight answer to that either. [11:45] Last I heard in one of the meetings we had with the 4904 from the state and county is that pain will remain the same as an entrance and exit up from the freeway. However. [12:01] Nicolette will be shut down. No, NO. Oh NO, that that I heard if correct me if I'm wrong, but what I heard is that. [12:19] They had approved one entrance only to the to the community center, not two. As far as I remember, they did say yes in the last conversation but I mean, you know what. [12:39] Denise gets everything and I can't connect with people directly, so that's very frustrating. I don't have a recollection of the exact date that we discussed that, but it was in a public meeting during the console meeting that it that took place, so if you don't mind. [12:59] Whenever I've read minutes or things about it, it always seems like it's proposed. So I mean, we all know what that 86 and pen. [13:25] That's a change, yeah. He used to be very open with me and but now he's like I can't discuss it. So then you wonder what changed. I used to be friends with Brian, so it's just kind of weird how it's like. [13:42] We can't talk about it. So those were my questions, but, thanks. I just, yeah, I, I just hope that the way there is an exit on on pen because Core Newton is getting way too much credit. Thank you. [14:00] Thank you. Alright, thank you. Thank you all for participating. There are NO other speakers who? We got 5 min. Okay, so yes, you're welcome too. [14:16] So, Andy Thole, 54 your resident of Bloomington. I sent the council an email earlier today, so on 31 October, so my wife works out of the house. There was a bad accident on the corner of 83rd of Stevens. [14:36] In car. [14:37] But probably 40 ft from the intersection. The other car, all four airbags move off. We've had probably within the last five months, probably three accidents. Another one happened where a trailer flipped upside down on top of the fire hydrant on the corner. And the last five years, the neighbor's house in the corner I emailed you guys. [14:57] The gas meter in the corner of the house was taken out and it actually took out the structure of the house, you know, so. [15:03] The neighbor is not comfortable with her grandchildren playing in the front yard anymore because of the speeds. And I know you guys have reduced the speed limits, you know, in the city and in the reside residential areas. And so when the cops came upon the scene of the 83rd and Stevens, they basically said I can't believe that the city. [15:21] Allows such intersections to exist, you know, so what we've got is high speed traffic and basically uncontrolled intersections and you've got basically people, they don't know, nobody's really got the right away, if you will, right? So really you should stop at every intersection as you know, but so we've got down the residential. [15:41] Streets is increased speed, and I know we have a nice signed shop at Bloomington, so my ask is that kind of like Richfield kind of when I drive through Richfield, I see a lot of the intersections with stop signs, kind of the north and south side, so that the through streets from like Portland to Nickland. [16:00] You know, people kind of have the right away and they'd have to stop at least at one of the intersections, you know? So it's only a matter of time, and so this happened on 31 October, bad one on a corner, you know, luckily nobody was hurt. Airbags went off and cars are pretty safe these days they fold up nicely. Dom, two weeks later, 11 November, down on Clint. [16:20] Avenue. Same thing, big crash on the on the intersection, you know? There was a bus that collided with a car on our 83rd of the Stephens intersection too, so it was a bus car accident. Now I see buses flying through the intersections too. I'm not gonna lie, like my neighbor has a camera. [16:38] And I could pull some video up, but these buses fly through the intersections too. It's not just cars. You know, we're talking school buses that are flying through these intersections. So I just want to bring it to the councils as attention, you know, I think there's a serious safety concern, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, but I don't know if a counselor can weigh in, but I'm very concerned city manager about Bridgefield has. [16:58] That's a stop signs at the intersection, so. [17:01] It's worming up. Testing, testing. Hello? Okay, so there you go. So just for the public who's listening that 83rd and Stevens is a neighborhood. They're two neighborhoods streets that they're just not marked. They're unmarked. So it's really not clear. And I mean I will say that. [17:21] I, I think I brought this up when I 1st started on council because I do agree that. [17:28] I mean, I do agree that it's not safe. The challenge I think we have in Bloomington is that we have so many of these intersections that, I think it would be really challenging to put in like that many stop signs, but I do think that you bring up a good point. I know every time I drive through neighborhoods, it's eastside, it's we. [17:48] There are many uncontrolled intersections and I mean I know I'm always slowing down because I've almost gotten hit many times. [17:58] So, you know, I think you bring up a really good point and I think it would be challenging, but I would be curious to know like if we were gonna take that approach in Bloomington, like, what would that even take? Like, and how many stop signs would that mean and hopefully the council can look at the cost of of sub science to richfield? [18:15] You actually see these uncontrolled intersections with these stop signs on on people like the the north and south side where the the through the streets are going from Portland to nickeland. And Portland's closed down right now, so a lot of things happening is because Portland's shut down. People are just zinging through our neighborhoods right now. They're cutting, they're cutting over 83rd. [18:35] So they can get on 4904 type deal. So sorry our neighborhoods are becoming their own little four 90 fours they don't hurt. [18:44] So I wanted to just mention something real quick to you, that little history lesson, which I was interested in that too cause I I grew up not too far from there. 84th and 5th as I asked that question of one of the planning managers said, this is crazy. Why do we not have any stop signs anywhere up here? I mean, what, what gets the right of way? [19:02] Well, so I'm like, Well tell me why is the case well they said, well, there was a certain planning manager we had and the philosophy was if you don't put any stop signs out there, it will make people more cautious as they go up on the intersections because they have NO idea what to do. [19:20] And so this was years ago in the sixties or something like that when we were doing that. And so I always thought that was a crazy explanation, but it really explained everything. And so with that philosophy, that was not the philosophy that Richfield or some of the other suburbans areas took, but that was kind of. [19:36] You know, the history behind why, why they do that here and why it's like that. And so just just so just not this right or wrong, I'm not saying we should continue to do that, but that's just that's the history why doesn't the city can just put together some kind of proposal and just kind of let do studies on the intersections because I know it's not an easter or west problem. It's pretty much everywhere. [19:56] That people are driving faster and it's it's there's a lot of fast driving you know in the city, so if you live in the neighborhoods, you kind of notice that the intersections here you're kind of like you're getting your foot over the brake, you're kind of like eaking through and I do that quite a bit and people just fly right in front of me. You don't live in that neighborhood. I come. [20:16] East west, you know, people just fly right down the side streets. It doesn't matter which. Okay, Andrew you have 5 min, sorry. Can I just realized nobody answered my question about video. We. [20:36] We can't give you an answer at the moment, so We'll know deciding tonight not not at the, not at the moment. We'll get back to you on it sounds for tonight. [20:48] There are NO other speakers, we look for a motion to adjourn. Second. [21:08] All those in favor please. [21:23] Thank you. Thank you.