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City Council Listening Session - September 9, 2024
Bloomington City CouncilWednesday, September 11, 2024
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[0:01] It's that.
[0:03] I provided the intent of city code for the exterior lighting. Why did staff not include to protect motor vehicle operators? Why did staff not include the language from city code 2013 oh one seven? Exterior lighting lighting plan where.
[0:20] Number four states and accurate site plan indicating location of property lines and all existing and proposed land improvements including button limited to buildings, parking lots, piles, and driveways, streets, walkways, and accessory buildings. Why did staff not include the city code 2013 oh one seven exterior lighting.
[0:40] The States minimum illumination of parking surface of the parking, loading access or other surface areas.
[0:46] Along the property line, why is there NO lighting in the areas where pedestrians are likely to be present such as the sidewalk next to South entrance Park Avenue and the sidewalk from the parking lot on Chicago Avenue? Additionally, there is a sign, there is a parking plan that indicates LP or light pole by the Daryl fruit sign.
[1:06] Why was that not constructed? Also after the last listening session, council and council secretary and email dated Tuesday 27 August 2724I did not receive a reply.
[1:22] Email says 1st to address comments made, and I used youtube's youtube's rough transcriptions, a council member states. So you're dismissing the fact, this is the, this is a reply to my concern about there being seven police reports with my name in him.
[1:42] So the council member says, so you're just missing the fact that they may have actually been responding to things that you were calling the city about at the time because.
[1:50] You call every week about parking violations, noise violations, light violations, not having enough light, right? So they could actually have been responding because you were submitting complaints to the city. My comment, I had not been calling the police. Additionally.
[2:06] I stopped taking pictures after 27 August 2019. When police approached me while I was in my neighbor's drivewally with her permission, police inaccurately informed me that I would be subject to harassed under the harassment statute regardless of my intentions.
[2:22] The statue has written was on constitutional at the time, which I had not violated either and noted in the NAS versus city of Bloomington decision that stated NAS decision to chill her speech was not objectively reasonable for two principal reasons.
[2:39] 1st, her intended conduct is not prescribed by the statute. Additionally, the definition of harass in the word another suggests that harassments must target an individual victim, as such does not extend to the monitoring of a physical space and issue or a random crowd of people.
[2:59] 2 December was the motion for preliminary injection that was filed. 1st report is dated 5 December 2019. And then another council member states because of your reports, they are being diligent all week. She also commented, I would agree with.
[3:16] The council member, most likely they happened because of the length of inquiries, so it was put on the role call to do for the week. My comment, again, I had not been calling the police. Additionally, if they were going to be diligent, they would have at least included extra patrol on Friday.
[3:35] Also, I had quit speaking at city council comment periods after 7 January 2019 as well because the city required that I provide my address verbally and that was not safe. I did not comment again until 18 May 2020 when I requested the council revised the agenda concern.
[3:55] Learning the public hearing for ranked choice voting. Then again on 26 April 2021, not concerning the building, and that was it until the listening sessions began 25 April 2022.
[4:08] Mayor says, I think the bottom line is the police had reason to do this. My comment, and that is what I would like to know, what is the reason? City manager, our police officers are always patrolling neighbors neighborhoods. My comment Yes, they are, but they are not putting names in reports unless there is a reason. And again, what is that reason?
[4:28] I would like to know why my name is on these reports. It is not on the reports for the reasons the council members suggested, so why is my name on the reports? This is an ask.
[4:41] Okay, thanks. Alright thank you alright Michelle. Hey! Just want to say there's NO pin here. So, greetings mr. Mayor counselors and staff.
[5:01] I'm with resort and so we're just I'm just here to introduce the position paper that we've put together. It's a looks like a really huge document, but that's because the fedex guy wanted us to look like hypocrites and he only printed it beside it, right? So.
[5:21] We also emailed it, so you'll have it that way too.
[5:24] So it's laid out, it starts out with, you know, an executive summary which just gives you all the basic information that we want to talk about like ecological restoration, climate change, social equity and access to nature, the negative impacts that we think adding new recreational and.
[5:44] Entities to central Park could bring though not lawyer, we're not concerned there and our vision for enhancing the corridor for education.
[5:53] Then it gets into the nitty gritty details after that for those of you who want to keep reading and find out, just more detail. So that's pretty much it. I'm just here to, to say that we've put this together and.
[6:11] Hope that you read it. And then I guess just I also just wanted to say that, I went to I go to the park and rec meetings park meetings every month and so this last one you maybe don't know.
[6:26] Renee talked about everybody she's spoken with, you know, that they talked to ADA people, they talked to cyclists, they've been talking to a store the nine people, and she said, one of the themes that we're hearing from the community at large is that a shared trail for bikes and pedestrians is least preferred.
[6:46] And so I just want to say it looks like the cyclists and restore the nine have something in common. That's it. Oh, ok, I'll write this. Wow, somebody else sucks. Thank you very much y'all. So any questions? Yeah I would just be curious. This is great. Thank you and I look forward to reading it.
[7:06] How did you guys create this? And are you is it like something that you'll have on your website so people can.
[7:12] Like read it through it and sign on and well, let's see, we created different people contributed to it and is that kind of what you're asking? Yeah, I mean I've been part of a lot of coalition work and I just was just curious different memberships at this point. I mean that takes a lot of work and a lot of a lot of people and so I guess I'm just kind of.
[7:32] Yeah, some of us, worked very, very hard in many hours on that, so, yeah. Thank you.
[7:39] No problem. And yeah, it's a good idea that we that we probably will be putting it on the website. So here I'll gathering our feverance done. Any other questions? Okay. All right. Thank you. All right.
[7:57] Oh, you're. You're welcome. Well, thank you for giving me time to talk. My name is Mary Arjan. I'm going to tell you just a bit about my.
[8:17] Myself two for some credibility. I've been Minnesota Native. I've lived in Bloomington over 50 years. My husband and I have raised two sons here. I worked my way through college, became a Minnesota licensector.
[8:34] K through twelve, art in English. I worked in Minneapolis and Bloomington schools. I also worked at Male Clinic Rochester, that's how I worked my way through school. State of Minnesota Health department.
[8:50] Minnesota Heart Association, my own business MG designs affiliated with Midwest fashion and design consortium, worked retail, model of America, Macy's and Nordstrip.
[9:05] So a broad background. Also, we have been working as a volunteer. I've been a math tutor in Bloomington public and private school elementary schools. I've been in an election judge 13 times. I have been an artist and a leader at Creek Side boutique over ten years.
[9:25] So why am I here? I'm representing the boutique because I get the impression that the boutique is kind of being overlooked and forgotten and I feel very strongly that that should not happen. So a little.
[9:43] History of the boutique. 1st of all, what is the botique? It means small specialty shop, that's all it means. The name is derived from French and French it means shop, and now it's a common English and common English usage boutique.
[10:00] So what, what, what are the reasons to save the botique? 1st of all, foremost, I would say it provides socialization, connecting with others. For the artisants?
[10:15] For the customers, for the volunteers, we might be the only people, some of these, customers talk to, for the whole day. Who knows? We in the botique, the, the boutique, the boutique, contributes to health and wellness.
[10:33] It guards against health, robbing, loneliness, and isolation, which is experienced by so many seniors. Many who have lost their partner, many who are taking care of somebody caregivers.
[10:49] And this creates real health issues can result in premature health issues and even early deaths. The boutique has been in existence for over 40 years since the middle of 1980s. It has more than 20 volunteers that run the boutique.
[11:08] It has about a hundred crafters and artisants who get new ones all the time and some dropping off, and it's a place for them to market their handcrafted creations. Everything must be new handcrafted.
[11:25] Did you know that 25 % of the sales revenue goes to the city of Bloomington? 15 % for the volunteers. Also, did you know, hundreds of dollars are given every year to local charities, such as VIP, Cornerstone and Bridging.
[11:43] This year we already have given $500 and there will be more because this is only September, so even though we've been told all the plans for the health and wellness centered.
[12:02] Creekside are preliminary and nothing is definite, but we have seen, they don't call them schematics, I don't know what they call them, but they look like plans to us and we don't see.
[12:17] Anything there that says boutique, and we strongly object to that. We are extremely concerned that we are going to be left out. So here's something interesting that I found.
[12:36] And I'm sure you all know about this survey that was done in 2022 by the city of Bloomington, July and August of 2022, explaining to the citizens why a .5 % sales tax should be approved in order to help pay for a new Craig Greeksight Community Center.
[12:54] So the city hired Morris Legalman company to conduct a survey of Bloomington residents. The results of the 10 min telephone survey of 400 Bloomington residents showed that 76 % supported building a new community center.
[13:10] And that's where we're at. The survey also showed that 61 % said that the number of aquatic facilities in the city was about right. 9 % of the respondents said there were too many aquatic facilities.
[13:26] Only 21 % that said that there were two few aquatic facilities, and now the plans that I've seen show it's a huge part of the plan. So the show surveys showed that 70 % of Bloomington residents pro.
[13:46] Respondents thought the current availability of aquatic facilities was sufficient. The Morris lethman's survey results showed that there was not a felt need for more aquatic facilities. Cront con contrary to what we are now being told.
[14:03] As to what Bloomington residents want. So there is some disparity there, which I think you all should look at. So if the city was satisfied with the survey results regarding the desire for a new community center, why isn't the city also satisfied with what the same same survey.
[14:23] Showed as to the aquatic facilities and maybe some of you noticed that I did email email this to all of you last Thursday, the very same thing.
[14:39] So, that is, I'm open to questions if anybody has a question for me. Thank you. Thanks for being here today. Council, any questions? Council member Carter and then council member Lawman. This might be just as much a question for city staff, but when I hear you talk about what, what you do at the boutique and.
[14:59] And all that goes into it and the crafters and artisans and I mean it kind of makes me.
[15:04] I probably opening up a can of worms, so I'm really sorry, but I mean, it kind of makes me think like it would even be good for the boutique to be like instead of plaza somewhere to have space because we already have a lot of arts based.
[15:21] Organizations here, so I don't know, like I, whenever I heard you talking about what it was that you did, I just wondered if event Paza would be a really good, like a, even a better fit because of the type of things that you're doing. I mean, I think I see stuff being craft stuff being sold downstairs already, so it's like had I mean.
[15:41] So I I guess more of just an idea and I'm not saying obviously like you said, NO decisions have been made about the new health and wellness center, but I mean we have So there's, it seems like there's space and maybe potential opportunities, and so.
[15:57] We we do need traffic for sure and ideally we would like to be near the entry, and we would like to have a glass storefront. We need at least as much space as we have now, if not more.
[16:14] And it would be a dedicated space, just like the aquatic center and the health thing. That's all dedicated, right? The Childcare Center dedicated space, right? So that's what we're asking for.
[16:31] And you will be seeing us a lot. Thank you. So my questions are along the same lines, but it's more a question for you. How important is it for you to be inside of the the new health and wellness center? That's where we've been.
[16:50] Why shouldn't we be there? That's where we've been. Why should we be kicked out? We're very insulted to tell you the truth. Outstand any additional questions?
[17:07] All right. Thank you. Thanks for being here tonight. All right, thank you. All right. That's the last on our list of folks. Is there anybody else we do have a few minutes here? Is there anybody else like to speak this evening? I guess if there is time. There is time. That's why I asked you earlier. All right.
[17:28] Hi, I'm Robert Coleman. I was wondering there what happened with river view? It, it seemed like from, I think that a lot of people who were really working towards it were very shocked at what Ransee county decided, and from the wording of their statement, it really feels like.
[17:48] They don't want transit at all, and then it really seemed like, you know, a couple hours later, mayor Carter and.
[17:57] The, I don't remember her name, the ward five council member on st. Paul city council was like, oh, we're gonna work for BRT now, but from the statement that Ramsey County put out didn't really sound like they wanted BRT. I mean, they canceled all of the policy committee's future meetings. Why wouldn't they just like if.
[18:17] If the county wanted BRT, why didn't they just say, oh, at the next meeting we're gonna recommend that you guys approve BRT?
[18:25] I, it seems it was very shocking and I don't, we don't understand what happened. Well, in my conversation with, for those of you who don't know, the Ramsey county Commissioner Artego, who is the chair of the quarter policy advisory committee, he's been driving the notion of Riverbury Quarter for.
[18:41] More than a decade, I think a couple of decades now, made the decision that he didn't want, he didn't want Ransey County to commit any more resources forward the review corridor, toward the toward the project. And the where the project was after.
[18:56] Literally ten years that we've been working on. I mean longer. The original study was before 2000? Yes, it was. That's why I said since we've been working on this advisory committee has been working on this, the recommendation he was boiling down to modern street car connecting downtown st. Paul and ultimately the airport in the Mall of America or bus rapid.
[19:16] Transit doing basically the same thing.
[19:18] Studies Glora about travel times, costs, ridership, all, you know, how it would all work and how it would all fit together and commissioner Ortega, I mean he said very specifically, he didn't feel there was the support necessary to move forward and when pushed on that, specifically from the.
[19:38] Met council or the Metropoland airports commission. Yeah, I was thinking it was Mac and and he he without that support.
[19:46] He thought it was not responsible to continue to commit Ramsey County resources and time and energy and so on towards something that he didn't think he had the support for. And, so he just, he, he decided that the best.
[20:02] Path forward at this time was to simply suspend the operations. He also said, I mean if if things changed, he'd fired up again, but at this time, he, he just thought this was the best course of action. Wow. That sucks. Yeah. Really looking forward to that, but.
[20:21] Yep and and and again for those of you who don't know, it is still, it is served by, what's the route is it? 54? The 54 of us, it takes roughly two and a half weeks to get from downtown st. Paul to mall of Americas. Roughly. I've NO for sure. I've been in, I've been on route 54.
[20:41] For where there was a big protest near the XL and every bus was delayed like 30 min. So it's not it's not ideal right now, but it it continues.
[20:51] It has with there is still service, it's not good and efficient service, but there is still service between downtown st. Paul and the, and the airport and the mall. It's just not as ideal as it could be. And, a lot of time and effort and work and blood sweat and tears went into this and it's it was disappointing I I agree with you Robert I mean it was disappointed to hear it also because.
[21:11] I mean like.
[21:12] I, I I've literally been working on it for more than a decade, and I've been on that committee for more than a decade and to see it just stopped abruptly like this was was disappointing. Council member Nelson? Yeah, two quick questions. How long does it take for light rail to go to downtown Minneapolis and then over to st. Paul, how long does that take? Because I thought.
[21:32] Faster than the 54? It's not faster, NO, but I need to know. And 2nd, what are you gonna do with your free time? I I don't know.
[21:43] Yeah, I mean the fact that st. Paul isn't gonna get a direct rail connection to the airport, it sucks on its own. But it will, right? 2035. They have a train coming up to the air. So they plan that they're building a brachel over there. That that is that's the river review quarter, that's just by the.
[22:03] Just pulled the plug out. They're also not building housing in San Hall either, so that's you're not wrong. Thank you. Are there any other questions?
[22:19] Alright, very good. Anything else folks? Alright, NO one coming forward with council. I would look for a motion to adjourn our listening session this evening. Motion in a 2nd, all in favor, please say hi. Opposed motion carries six zero. We are adjourned. We will see you downstairs. Thank you much.
[22:36] As I said, then I realized that I think I forgot the college order, but.