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City of Corcoran City Council Meeting May 8, 2025

Corcoran City CouncilTuesday, June 17, 2025
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Go ahead and call the meeting to order. We'll start with a roll call. McKe here. Lantern here. Friedrich present. Baronamp here. Nicholls presently here. Perfect. All righty. Join me in the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Agenda approval. Looks like there's a few items 6M, 7 A, and 12A that were added. Anything else from staff? Uh, that's all, Mr. Mayor. Anything from council? Okay. Uh, can I get a motion to approve the agenda as amended? I move to approve the agenda as amended. Do I have a second? Second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Agenda is approved. Okay. Uh uh presentations. I believe we have uh more of a recognition. Do we have a I was just going to read the resolution, Mr. Mayor. Okay. And I don't think I have a copy of that. I've got it. We're all set. Uh so public works. Yep. So, uh in recognition of National Public Works Week, which is coming up next week, uh we have a resolution. Uh you see the photo there from our cleanup day last Saturday. Uh teamwork makes the dream work and we have a great team. So whereas the city of Corkran finds it important to recognize the work of the city's public works department and whereas the national public works week is May 18th through 24th 20125 and whereas as part of national public works week efforts are recognized within the city's public works department staff and include public works director, operations superintendent, operations manager, operations crew leader, operations maintenance workers, utility superintendent, utility crew leader, developmental superintendent, administrative assistant, and our part-time seasonal workers. And whereas the city recognizes the efforts made enacting the city's vision and goals while providing, responding, collaborating, and improving services to residents of Corkran, including maintenance of utility and street infrastructure, storm water systems, parks and amenities, equipment in our fleet, facilities, and dedicated community service. And whereas the city recognizes the public works department in emergency management services. And whereas the city of Corkran recognizes the time, energy, and dedication provided by our city's public works department. Now therefore, be it resolved by the city of Corkran, the city council hereby honors our public works staff and recognizes National Public Works Week. Thank you. Thank you to everyone public works and who made it out to clean up. That was a good event. Yeah, you and I another fun event. Blast. Yeah. And it didn't rain. And it didn't. Oh my god. It was the prettiest day we ever had. Um, so we were up by 40. We had 121 people take advantage of that service that's provided, which was up 40 from last year. And, uh, it was it was a smooth operation. There was one couple that did either four or five runs. I don't know. Yep. They didn't make it back for the fifth. They did not make Didn't make it back. That was still a pretty impressive haul they had. And nothing nothing odd. No. As far as nothing couldn't be thrown out. It came. No, we took care of everything. It's cool. Thank And if I may, thank public works for that and staff for coming. That was great. That was really cool seeing everybody there. Everybody smiling. It was really, really neat. So, very cool. Teamwork makes the dream work. Good deal. All righty. Moving on to open forum. Uh we have opportunity tonight for anyone who wants to speak on an item that is not on tonight's agenda. Jay can walk us through the details. I don't know if we have any comment cards. Uh so we have one comment card. So I' invite anyone who wants to to uh provide me a comment card prior to going up. Please walk up to the microphone, state your name, your address, and speak to the dis to the council. The council will listen to what you have to say. We do not act on it at this time. and uh limit your comments to five minutes. I have one card and it's Miss Francine Woodford. If you can just give us your name and address when you have the record, that'd be great. My name is asking for help and well I found something and I don't know how to go about it contract my 20 years doesn't end until December 31st 39 that says that they the owners of Maple Hill agree to not do any regen here but basically the rent increase that they just recently effective was a 42% increase of what our current Um, and I just I found this information and I just I'm so excited I found it, but I don't know what to do with it. So, I'm asking for your help because I know a lot of people are not able to afford the increase and I just think that I just think that somebody needs to be holding these investors and their um represent is accountable for the for the stuff that they're doing to the residents who live there long time. I've lived there six years. Um and I just I kept digging and I knew there was something like there's got to be something. So um back in 2017 there was a grant called manufactured home park preservation pilot equity grant project right a 20page agreement here between the metropolitan household finance agency that um outlines everything the responsibilities of everyone. It also has in exchange for the grant the owner of state agreed to not make any unreasonable rent increases and maintain affordability. Um and their affordability definition is defined as 30% of the area's median income which I I don't know all the details of how that stuff gets worked out but I do know that based on this they should only have been able to raise their rent about $24 and they So, I don't like I said, I just don't know what to do with it. I don't know. I' I've been in contact with like Homeline and whatnot, and they don't even they're like that's outside of our area of expertise. So, this is the next this is my next step. I just got this yesterday. Could you get after get this to staff and staff to make it count? Perfect. And if you could make a copy for council, that'd be great. I mean, I can give you this copy. I just staff can make it so that way we can all get get our hands on it. Um, so yeah, the compliance period is a 20 year compiance period. I requested this data way back when I first came here and asked you guys for help. Um, and I just don't know what to do with this and I I know that something can be done. I just don't know how to go about it. So, I'm asking for your help. That's my main purpose of coming here. Congratulations on the great find the holy grail of it. I just don't know what to do with it now. I'm like I this awesome information but what do I do? I don't know. So So next steps for you. Uh Natalie Davis is our community development director is going out there if you want to meet her in the back. She'll talk with you about next steps. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks Natalie. Is there anyone else for open forum today? I've received no other cards. Then we will move on to consent agenda which consists of items 6 through 6 M. M is the last item that was added which was the one that was read before I believe. Does anyone want to pull anything? I'd like to pull 6F. 6F. I don't understand. That's for an agenda. Um, anything else? Anyone else? No. Okay. Then I will entertain a motion to approve consent agenda items A through E and G through M. So move care. Second, Nicholls. All those in favor say I. I. I. Everyone. I forgot to say I That's what I I thought I didn't hear your voice, but perfect. Five up. Um Michelle, you pulled seven F. Perfect. So I just I guess um Whoopsie. I feel like this item because it's an added position um should have further council discussion um versus being a consent agenda, which is why I pulled it. So, um, in in reviewing the staff report, I I can understand and see, um, the reasoning behind it, but I also feel like this wasn't technically a budgeted position. Um, and I can see that it's a budget neutral position, but I still feel like because it's not included in this year's budget, we should be proactive and know that we need that role, but put the role into our next budget year and save money versus um extending that position then into the next year because you would have it in this year and then it continues forward. And I don't know which budget year it's it's slated for. I didn't have a chance to review the org chart. So, thank you for sending that. Um, so could you say that you your thought was maybe pushing it out? Yeah. Well, I'm just going to read kind of the thoughts that I wrote down. Um, I feel that it has not been previously approved or reviewed by council in a previous packet and because it's a new position, I feel that council should should be able to see that and have a discussion about it versus it being a consent agenda item. Um, I feel that that limits the transparency of that in that budget and I think it's important for us to just have a discussion about it. Um, from an from an operational and a budgetary standpoint, um, I believe it's important to consider staffing equity across all the departments. And I feel like we've been trying to be really proactive in making sure with our comp and class study that we have the appropriate positions that we need. And we just did an organizational restructure last June, I believe it was. Um, and I just want to make sure that we remain mindful of how we're allocating our taxpayer dollars, even if it's a budget neutral role or position and just have a discussion about it is is what I really want us to do. Um, I support the police department completely. I support all of our staff as a whole. I just I guess I'm questioning the immediate need for reintroducing the lieutenant role when we don't have an open position yet of someone who is going to be retiring. We don't know when that what that what that scope might look like. So I feel like this the staffing that we have right now um for the number of officers that we have is a good ratio. And I I would say that if we could consider including this in a future budget so it isn't just something that we're adding. I would feel better about that from a council member's perspective and just what we are doing with our budget. Okay. Anyone else? on that for me like like it's written in the in the in the thing here and the number of conversations and stuff. It's something that I've uh I was hoping to see kind of a succession plan opportunities for internal development without going outside the organization and stuff. So, it made sense to me and I I didn't think anything about pulling it, but appreciate that you did, Michelle. But it just it is it is something that I've been saying for a long time. I'd rather I'd rather hire within, promote within, develop within than to hire an outside more outside people. And and I I'm not excited about losing any more of our officers. I believe I believe all of them are satisfied with but just a stepping stone the development process a development opportunity internally. So this makes sense to me. So I that's why I didn't bring it up. So it's it's I I had no objection going on uh on consent but you brought you bring up a good point. It's always fun to pull off consent for discussion. Never a problem with that. Yep. Yeah. I think to me it makes sense in the climate that we're in with officers being courted um to avoid loss of a very in demand function that's been hard for us to acquire and hard for us to keep especially given that we're in a position of being last in negotiating contracts within our sort of peer group. Um I feel like something that we can do within what we had budgeted to give somebody one less reason to want to move and we can get we have a lot of less experienced officers who could benefit from having more one-on-one mentorship time that I think we can create with this kind of a role that we couldn't under the current structure. So, I I totally, you know, admire and respect the idea of let's try to curb our enthusiasm and do things in the budgeted fashion year to year. Um, but I think that this change is affordable and it creates more opportunities than risks. So, I'm still okay with doing it in mid year. Okay. Mr. Mayor, could I cover? Sure. Could you please bring it up? Uh so so first of all I do do want to address the idea of transparency for those who are in the audience. There is no intention or desire to not be transparent. The fact that it's budget neutral is part of the reason why we put it on consent. Uh and operationally for for everyone's benefit here what we have going on. Our police department does a fantastic job. But but to the point that was made we are routinely fighting with other departments to retain our staff. Uh so uh the word poach I think is appropriate. uh we've lost three officers within the last 24 months uh two other departments and one of the reasons that they site is opportunities for advancement. Another reason that they site is in terms of their professional development. They feel sometimes like they're left alone. And so in order to address those I I have had the benefit um I do ride alongs with all of our police officers and I do one-on- ones in order to get their perspective of what's happening within the department. And I heard two concerns that are written in the staff report that's up here. One, what is the long-term plan uh for our deputy? So, our deputy is not retiring right now. Uh but what really brought it to the forefront for me was I was at the state police chief's conference here about a month ago and this and the police chief from the city of Crystal had an opportunity come up and so she was not planning on retiring but she gave them four months notice in order to seize an opportunity. So that's one great good opportunity. And then there's also opportunities that are less desirable. Health issues, life changes. So one life one life experience away, you know, for her was a positive experience from retiring. So, our deputy could retire right now if he wanted to. Uh he's he said that he he's going to give us some more runway and we're grateful for that. But what I noticed with Crystal as I talked with their outgoing police chief is they had a secession plan. And so their deputy internal opportunity for growth, their deputy is now stepping up to be their chief. Their lieutenant is stepping up to be their deputy. It provides continuity of service. It provides opportunity for growth within the department. Everybody within that department's super happy about that. That's what got me thinking and that's when I went to our police chief and I said, "Hey, we need to have a model like this." And then I went back to the conversations that I've been having in my ride along with our police officers. We have fantastic new officers, but some of them don't have as much time on task as as some others do. and they would benefit from the experience of our sergeants being able to show up on call with them. But because of the administrative demand, our sergeants are sometimes stuck doing admin duties in the department trying to finish those reports, trying to do those training plans. And so this seemed like a strategic opportunity and seizing the opportunity to address heal two birds with one stone. This frees up our sergeants so that they can spend more time with our junior officers on the road. And I heard unanimously from our department, from our patrols, that's a desire they have as they're being courted by other departments. If we can help them feel more secure here, that they're getting cared for by their seniors, that's advantageous to us in order to retain those officers. And it also helps us develop a secession plan for our deputy. Then we come back to the budget question. How can we afford to do this? We did have an officer retire in February. We went forward to try and recruit for that. uh we had candidates come forward. We went through the process and um we want to make sure that we hire the right fit. We had qualified officers that weren't the right fit. And so we have had a vacancy in that position because we chose to not hire the wrong person for our department. As a result, we've had cost savings. With the cost savings from that as well as from some other areas and patrols through this year, we can bring someone on board in July and it's not going to cost us. We've got that covered. We've got the expense for it covered to the point for 2026. This would become a 2026 budget issue because it wasn't a projected. I we had no no projected need for a lieutenant. This need came out of an awareness of what's happening in the market and what's happening in our department and trying to respond strategically to the opportunity to make sure that we keep good people and we provide opportunities for them to advance and right now we can afford it. That that's the reason why I brought this request forward and the reason it was on consent was because it wasn't going to cost us anything at this point. Thank you. Any other discussion on it? Yeah, I just want to say I I appreciate the concerns that were raised by my colleague here, but uh with that uh I would like to make a motion to approve uh agenda item 6F as written. Okay, we have a motion. Do we have a second? A second. Thank you. Any further discussion? Did you have your hand up? I'm just scratching my head. So you don't want to do that much more. All those in favor say I. I. I opposed. All righty. I stopped scratching my head before I got on to planning. Uh so we have a added item 7A which is the Domino's mural survey and it's kind of some data andformational. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, this is mostlyformational just an update on uh the Domino's mural project. Um a couple months ago council directed staff to um open a survey to the public to generate some ideas for uh for the prompt for the drawing contest that will be had for the the Domino's mural. Um and uh that survey wrapped up earlier this week, I believe on Sunday night, and and we got a total of 33 responses and we feel that we have a pretty strong idea of what the community wants to see on the mural. So, um, we've taken those responses and generated a prompt and now we're ready to go forward with the drawing contests and, um, just looking for council to direct us to open that contest up and we can start that on on Monday. Cool. Any questions? Real quick question and I'm sorry, but I I can't remember. I think we all came up with that participation and such related to that. Just to clarity, the the cooler on the west side I'm going to say of Domino's is a mural on both sides of that cooler or is it wrapped around the whole thing? It would be on it would be on two sides. Um as the towards the ballpark towards the highway 50. Uh yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then the the short side the back side of the cooler is blocked by the trash enclosure. So I just I I just I'm I'm The whole thing it's looks wonderful. I mean everything that it's come together it's great. The lights are on at night. They are not polluting. They are not irritating. It it is just all coming together and it'd really be neat to top it off with something like this. So thank you Dwight. Everybody that's worked on this very very much. It's it's a cool thing. So um if nobody has any other comments I' I'd make a motion to direct staff to make this happen. Make a second. How's that? A motion and a second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Okay. On to 7B. Uh, which is the continuation of the quick shift discussions. Um, and Jay, did we have a card? Uh, so we have two comment cards, Mr. Mayor. Uh, the first uh person up would be Mr. James Rash, if I'm present pronouncing that correctly. Go ahead. public comment. Got if you give us your name and address for the record, that' be great. Good evening. My name is James Ra and my address is 1911. I live here. First of all, Mr. Mayor and council members, thank you so much for allowing me to speak to you. I am not a gifted speaker so please bear with me. Um I come humbly before you as a concerned citizen and I think I represent members of weatherw speaking on behalf of the community of gro across the street proposed site. I've listed um about seven items and prepared some additional This is what I'm going to talk Thank you. Thank you sir. I can share. I can share one. Hopefully you got you may. I got one. Thank you. Just real quick too, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, if I may, folks, I'd really like it if you could listen to the person talking. Sidebar conversations and stuff are very distracting. It gets cranky up here. I I want to be able to hear everything and I want you to be able to hear everything also. So, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you for that. My first concern is of one of problem and water. The lawn irrigation for the bell weather and several other nearby communities comes from holding ponds that could be affected by runoff of gas spillage and car wash chemicals. If contamination is sufficiently high, all irrigated could be killed off. Aqua contamination would likely impact water quality for water treatment plants both located nearby. My question is why should we challenge mother nature nature air pollution and health issues exposure to benzene is a serious health issue. I don't know how many people actually aware of that but benzene is a significant hazardous Gasoline light pollution is a big word that I didn't understand but basically it means light shining on neighbors but it's in evening hours after some lighting of commercial property is or should be prohib that's my opinion but it's shared by many residential owners I'm asking that you Please respectful of Cork and Maple Grove residents. A second poor choice I would have would be that hours of operation be restricted to minimize that. The ongoing concern also is that of traffic safety. Quick trip is a major traffic generator. This would increase veicular traffic and would cause in my opinion the additional additional accidents and injury to passengers and pedestrians. Um I didn't know this fact when I did a little research. Fire and explosion danger is a hazard for any gas station and according to a 2020 20 National Fire Protection. They have a title there. Um 2020 National Fire Protection Association report. From 2014 to 2018, local fire departments responded to an estimated average of 4,150 fires in or on service gas station property per year. These fires cause an average of three civilian deaths, 43 civilian fire injuries, and $30 million in direct annual property damage. That's a statistic on record. Third point I wish to make is that crime and safety will become concern. Convenience store holdups account for 6% of all robberies in the nation. Convenience store employees suffer from high rates of workplace homicide. second only because I think that's next point I think is relative terribly important. Another gas station simply is not necessary. We're overwhelmed already with In the immediate facility area gas is decreasing in the meantime projected to drop by greater than 35% over the next 5 years. Why are we over gas stations when the decline is one second sir if I could make a motion to extend uh gentleman's time by another couple minutes. Second. All those in favor say I. I. Thank you. The reasons for the declining gas are obvious gas engines, increase use of gas vehicles, increase use of electrical vehicles. Um, as I stated earlier, there are sufficiently or maybe too many operating gas stations already in the nearby area. Quip itself has a third one proposed. There's a second one under construction at Parkway and there's one already at I believe there's a marathon station just a few miles southwest. It seems to me that any other type of retail business makes more sense. My wife and I moved here from Madison, Wisconsin. We're infinitely familiar with footrip. They run a good business. I wish they didn't pump gas. I wish that they didn't have extended hours. I wish them good will. But I wish they would go anywhere. that small proposing what I'm council members for listening to me passionately from the heart and I just hope that serious consideration is given I'm Understanding correctly a previous review of this, three of the four voters didn't seem interested in passing it, but then spoke against it and then decided to vote to pass it for further consideration. I don't understand. I don't understand the need for this location. Thank you, Mor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We have another uh one other Mr. Mayor. Uh Miss Stephanie St. Clair. Hello, council members and Mr. Mayor. I'm Stephanie St. 9745 El North and I am one of the neighbors that was notified about the building because we will be affected by it. And on our April 24th meeting that you had, there was a petition with 125 neighbors from Delini neighborhood that was submitted into your packet of opposing the quick trip, but it wasn't mentioned at your meeting April 24th. So, I'm here to reiterate a little bit about what that was. Of the 125 neighbors, we have been in our homes and have had County Road 101 get and busier over the years with the traffic on 101 and another entrance if Quick were to build. We would have more susceptibility to traffic accidents and it if the congestion and it's just not safe another thing is our property values will decrease. Nobody likes that. I know that Quick Trip U mentioned that that would what they proposed or projected was 700 vehicles a day at that location. We can't handle 700 cars going in and out. And those would be more like 6:00 a.m. till 900 p.m. maybe, but that is still if you go down 101 anytime during the day, you will see that that is just not right. The other thing was um it was mentioned that Quick Trip was put on hold because of COVID for that location. But in the meantime, in 2023, just 2.5 miles away, as I measured it, is the quick trip that's on County Road 81. And just two miles away from the sign from that quick trip that's on Dayton Road to your Quick Trip proposed area on the 9700 block of County Road 101. It's just two miles. So, we have two quick trips already within two and a half miles. So, my proposal is please deny this building. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Okay. No other cards, Mr. Mayor. Okay. Then we will go ahead and close up the public comment portion and go on to council discussion or staff presentation. Mor I don't a very long staff presentation. I'll just reiterate that this is a continuation of the discussion we had just a couple weeks ago. Um staff did provide um revised resolutions in the packet and then there were a few small clarifications made in uh resolutions that are now on the dislined. Um so I would say we want to be working off what is on the dis tonight rather than what is on the packet. Um everything except the variance resolution had changes. Um and then also prepared because we have to make a decision tonight. May 14th is the review deadline. So we do need a final decision. With that in mind, staff did prepare a denial resolution. Uh also had some slight changes. So again, we want to be working off of what is on the dis. Um and then regardless as a staff recommendation, the planning commission's recommendation was to recommend approval of the project. Regardless of whether the cup and site plan get approved, the preliminary plat should be approved tonight. It does meet all the standards. Uh and there is a condition in the preliminary plat resolution that the one issue of the building setback either a variance must be granted and approved or they would have to provide a plan that shows the building complying with setbacks. So they'd be able to make a decision from there, but we should uh approve the preliminary plat even if you deny the rest of the project is 2025 24. Correct. Yes. So I'm available for questions. The Mama G's project team is here. Um and we go from there. Okay. Any questions for Natalie or not for the applicant? Oh, I'm sorry. There was one clarification I wanted to make. At the last meeting, I said the variance step back for the building would be 19.8 ft. um that is incorrect with the changes that would be required if this were to move forward. The variance would actually allow for a 29.8 foot setback from the county road. Uh the plans right now show 19.8 ft, but uh the plans would need to be revised to show a 55 foot rideway instead of 65 ft with a 10 foot trail easement. So that's it gives them an additional 10 ft uh from potential pavement. So that was one clarification. Thank you. Any questions for Natalie? See the cog's turn. See if anything pops up. If not, anything for the applicant? There he is. Okay. I got nothing. Nothing. Council discussion. I'm I'm one that had asked a tremendous number of questions and such and my my uh my questions were satisfied and such. Um to the neighbors and and the folks that are wondering why why the votes and stuff and why I did what I did, this is a permitted use in commercial property, if I'm correct, C2 C2, excuse me, commercial two. Um, so it's it's uh one of those things to say no to it. It creates all kinds of issues, folks. Um, everything that can happen in the properties to the south of Bellweather and to the east of Bellweather. Um, this is what this has been planned for 30 years, 40 years. The comp plan is something that the cities have to do. um it has not changed a lot and such and I've been told that everybody that purchased Belleather property and everybody in that general vicinity was part of the purchase agreement and understood what the comp plans were. Okay. I I was respectful for all y'all. It was in the packets that at closing those kind of things. And I've asked I've asked to see it and I've seen the closing packets and stuff. So it in my mind it shouldn't be a surprise and I've used this example numerous times. If you build next to a golf course your house is going to get hit by a golf ball. This is something obviously very different but it is not going to be staying as a plowed field or anything. It is part of the comp plan of this city. previous council members, mayors, residents have done this comp plan and such. So, that's where I'm going with this stuff. I would love to be able to tell somebody if you don't want it to change, and I've done this in the past, buy it and we'll find a farmer to farm it and stuff, but I don't think anybody can afford it, folks. Um, that that that land owner has the right. This is part of that comp plan and those kind of things. So, apologize for anything anybody that's been misled or anything else, but I I I was part of putting Delany in when I lived in Maple Grove. Folks, I've been through this. All of the neighbors around Delany, all farmlands, all residents with with 10 acres or more didn't want Delaney to go in. Um, I was part of Maple Grove when it was 34,000 people. I left Maple Grove and it was 61,000 people and I got active shortly after I got in and understood the processes and all of those things and it that happened. It is very hard for cities to say nope, we're not doing it when a lot of our regulations and a lot of our direction comes from the Met Council. Okay. Um the Met Council tells us we have to have a plan. We have a plan. We have it all the way out to 2040. The next plan is in process to be talked about starting next year for the 2050 plan. So it is one of those things that happens and yes people don't appreciate, don't like, don't think it makes sense and such. We've spent a tremendous amount of time talking about many properties and such. Even even Bellweather and Amberly and all of those things. Boy, by golly, none of those people that live on the 510 acres around them wanted this to happen. But again, the farmer had a right to sell. They sold. Everything was set up in Bellweather um the way it is with tremendous opposition. But it was one of those things that it was followed. The process was followed and such. So that's where I'm at and I'm I'd love to hear what everybody else is saying thinking up here, please. Thank you. Anyone else? I'll go next. Okay. I'll give the opposite view. Um, you always do. I I often do. What are you What are you drinking tonight? Anything possible? Not Not really. No. So, I'll start by saying that a motor fuel station is not a permitted use. It's a conditional use in all the districts where it appears in our zoning code. And a conditional use requires council to assess separate characteristics and criteria beyond what would be the case if there was a permitted use applied. So if this were a bank application or a bakery application or a restaurant or a grocery store, those are true permitted uses as long as they meet code, there's no room for us to disagree with approval. For a conditional use, we have to assess separate characteristics. And it is entirely possible that if council decides that it doesn't meet those criteria, the next thing that comes in would also be opposed by the residents and neighbors. If this was an Aldi, if this was a um pick a chain that people don't appreciate having close to them, there there are limited realms of discretion that we have available to us. Motorfuel stations is one where we have to assess those criteria. At our last meeting, we had a lot of residents and in emails and in person express concerns about noise pollution, hours of operation, crime and safety. So, we considered all of those things and we said, "Well, we're concerned about those things, too. We'd like to table this for a meeting to give the applicant a chance to address some of those concerns." Um, parking was another really big one that kind of got set to the side in terms of not necessarily the quick trips parking, but what is the implication on the surrounding area if that is currently used for parking an existing business is no longer available for that business. And those things have been put into a draft. resolution for denial. So council needs to weigh does it make more sense for us to approve this application because you know can we get to a point where it makes sense to accept the trade-offs that this would represent for the city or does it make more sense to deny knowing that the next thing that comes in we may have less discretion on and and may like less than we would like this. And so I'll I'll set the table for the rest of the council with that. We we have the absolute authority to say no based on findings of fact that are entirely reasonable and staff has put those together for us. We have to decide if we as a body concur with that interpretation or if we want to approve instead. But it's this is a subjective call for council to make in its role in this process. It's not a must. And I will just add that in the resolutions there a lot of the added conditions that you were talking about to try to get to a potential place that we were comfortable with are included there. Um I don't know if everyone's had a chance to read through to make sure. I wanted to confirm I did see the draft approval resolution included limitations on hours operation for the car wash, but I I didn't notice limitations on the core like gas pump functionality in the beat and store part. Is that there as well? Don't believe there were no limitations. There was not a direction for council to limit unless I missed it. I didn't I thought the limitations was just for the car wash. We we asked we nobody asked for it as part of a resolution. We asked if it was an option, but Okay. Sorry, I misremembered it then. I thought the mayor made a motion, but if it was just for the car wash, then the car wash. I see a I remember the applicant said there are quick trips that do have limitations based on city requirements. And I think in light of the residential character of the neighborhood, it would make sense to limit in the same way here. Um that might also help to deal with some of the public safety concerns about you know, robberies and safety of the people working at the location. Mr. Mayor, if I could, I believe the quick trips in the area that aren't 24 hours, they typically, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but believe it is 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. just verify that themselves probably Okay. I think that's what I generally saw when I took a look at Are there other convenience stores in town? There is crossroads. Is he in a B2 zone? If you can come up to the microphone, please. It is in a C1 zone. Well, it's yeah, it's it's similar in that it's also a conditional use in the C1. So C1's just supposed to be a little bit more neighborhood, whereas C2 is meant to serve more motorists, kind of a slightly larger region than the neighborhoods um scale of commercial. But yeah, so it's I would say they're fairly similar. The standards are fairly similar for a gas station. And I do believe Crossroads does close the indoor operations. You can still use pumps after the hour or so. That's in a CUV. That's his decision. I don't know. That's his decision. So, if it's not mandated, not him, I would not expect it to be placed onto us. I would say council does have authority to limit the hours of operation if desired. I don't think we do. You have anything else you council? Any questions for the applicant or there were conditions in the site plan for showing acceptable parking for mom and cheese assuming that we had approved what would the enforcement mechanism be like if if they came through and didn't have that what would be the next step what would occur if they didn't have what I'm sorry what you said if they weren't able to find the required number parking spaces and weren't willing to make the other changes that would be required in that. They would have to come back with a variance or a site plan amendment further. We would have to basically bring it back to council if they there was no way for them to meet the parking. The other option is they would need to reduce volleyball courts um in the recreational space to be able to provide the requisite parking for their use. So there's a couple different ways options. Yeah. But if they didn't do that, what does that do to quick check? So if they don't do their part uh and I don't have a compliant plan then quickrip can't move ahead. So those are linked together in that way then you have something else on that or just clarification I'm processing I'll make a motion to amend the approval resolution to add which one is for the hours of operation at 2525 to edit 2525 to include hours operation of 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. for clarifying question for the convenience store not the pumps not the sumps so it's an I just want a point of clarification so Jeremy can you restate that again sorry I'd like to make a motion to amend that resolution to include an hours of operation limitation of 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. on the convenience store. I would second that. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Yeah, further discussion. No. Was there limitations related to the car wash? Also, that's already where was it? That's what I'm ask. I wish I could read 540 pages and then 200. There it is. Okay. That was my question. I Mr. Mayor scan too quickly. Um did we talk about lighting? Yes. So the lighting uh we have talked about the lighting plan complies with our candle ordinance. Uh and they there is a limit. Okay. Sorry. They have to be looming at the property line and they do have a plan that complies. There is a condition in here that also says the fuel canopy lights must be dimmed. So that that is being met and that is something that we can measure. I think we'd have to potentially buy a tool to do that, but that is something that can be effectively measured by staff if there was concerns. Additionally, the screening that we're adding to the site as a condition would also help with some of the lighting. If we want to discuss that or another topic further, we can do that after. Is there any other discussion on the motion? Yeah. Briefly, um the motion on table being to just amend the draft understand it to add the hours of operation. It would be appropriate just to make sure that interest of creating a robust record on this that we are memorializing the reasons for for those hours and and under which provisions of the C Okay. I think it's it's rooted in public safety and the concerns around potential for creation of crime opportunities that and that would be public safety, health, morals and comfort would be the link. Okay. Is that sufficient? Thank you. All right. Any other discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed? Nay. That was two 23 I believe so that passes that be added to the resolution that passes three to two camp. Um, any other items? I think that's added quite a bit to try to mitigate the impact. Want to make a motion. If there's any other questions, feel free to want to make a motion um for approval or potentially denial. Free to do so. I'll go ahead and make a motion to approve resolution 202524 approving the preliminary plan 202526 approving the CVP and uh this might a little bit updated 202543 approving the site plan for quick mama G's I believe the variances were included in 26 um correct I think you um So the resolution 202525 is the CU I think you said 26 and then resol resolution 202526 is the variances which approves two denies one which is the regarding the utility connection for Mama G and then um and then correct 202543 is the site plan and site plan amendment. Okay. So, making my numbers match with what Natalie said because those are correct. That'll be my motion. You have a second. I second that. Yes. Second. Any further discussion? I have a discussion question. Maybe a series of questions. So, I asked previously what happens if we don't get a compliant plan for actually issuing permits and so on. What if we get a compliant plan but it's not followed? What happens then? And and I heard that concern and that's part of the edits that you see today. Um just to clarify, I think the we technically already have this authority but we just clarified for the sake of no confusion later on. So for the site plan 43 page 23 we I'm sorry page six I added paragraph 23 which says further the following conditions must be met prior to issuance of a certificate of occupancy for clip mama's must restore the area between the building and the right ofway along county road 101 and any other areas that were previously used for parking drive aisles for driveways, typo, I'll fix that, that are no longer used to be used for parking to a vegetated state per their landscaping plan. Uh, paragraph B says, "Mom G's must install all required parking and or related site improvements in compliance with their site plan amendment." Now, what happens if they don't follow through? We've also required that QuickRip obtain a right of entry agreement, which basically allow if Mama G doesn't perform, Quick Trip as the party to the development contract and the party that would provide us with financial security. They could theoretically perform this work. If they don't do it, the city will ultimately be able to pull on the letter of credit and complete this work. Okay. Did I answer your question? Yes. Thank you. Any other questions? We have the motion in a second. I think someone Oh, we can't um really take public u the letter credit would be part of the development contract and that would be quick trips since they are the applicant and the developer else. Um, all those in favor say I. I I I opposed. I'll abstain. Michelle I 401 that is approved with all and with that we can give if anyone is wanting to leave certainly not offended. If you want to stay more than welcome to we head on to item uh 8A which is unfinished business. Do I have that correct? Yes, Mr. Mayor. Uh, this is the Chisum Trail hearing in street improvements. Gotcha. Thanks very much. If you can wait just for a minute. Yep. I will. Thank you. Thanks. [Music] Would you like us to do a quick project presentation and Open the public. Be great. [Applause] All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council. Uh, I just have a few quick slides to go through here. We'll kind of go through the location of where this work would be done, the anticipated improvements, the assessments, and then the funding sources and project costs. Next slide. So, Chism Trail identified here and then the red uh line kind of outines the properties that would be affected by this. Next slide, please. A feasibility study was done uh back in April and the anticipated improvements identified in the feasibility study were a full depth reclamation which is grinding up the existing pavement using that with underlying gravel and making a new base for the road and then placing new pavement um on top of that new base. There would be drain tile installed as well to help drain the new roadway and kind of keep the longevity of that roadway in place and then spot drainage improvements throughout the area that have been identified in that visibility study. Next slide please. The assessments for this were identified uh as a rehabilitation and that is shown here in the table of $9,000. But per the assessment policy there um there's historically been a eligible free overlay for certain areas within the city and that has been identified as $4,500. So if you take the 9,000 and subtract the credit of $4,500, the assessment per property would be $4,500. Um the uh the assessments are also there's a term that those assessments can be paid over. Um staff recommends utilizing the last bond that's kind of identified there on the last bullet. It's 1% of the current bond market interest rate. So 3.41% 1% above that would be 4.41% of the interest rate and then we would recommend a term of 10 years to pay that back. Next slide please. Uh the funding sources here have been identified. The estimated total project cost would be the 421. Local funds would be the 340,72560. And then the assessments would cover $81,000. And then I've just identified the different uh general the different budget or budget pools that those would come from. So the 2025 general budget would be $250,000 for the maintenance line item and then the pavement management fund would cover $90,72560. Um, next slide please. That is really all I have. Um, because this is an improvement hearing, I believe we have the opportunity to hear from resur. Perfect. Thank you very much. And With that, I will go ahead and open the public hearing. And so if anyone just would like to come up um and speak now is your time. Sure. Come on up. I'll set up 9820. But in the last meeting which I attended via teams that we were to be given a choice and a vote on how what we wanted to have happen here. Am I clear here that it's gone from a free overlay to now a full road replacement and with assessments that are assigned to it? Is that is that the direction that they're going or or do we still have an opportunity to to sway this in some what we typically do if we have questions we'll have staff kind of make some notes and then make sure we get everything and then we try to address your questions at the end of of the public comment. Perfect. Thank you. Anyone else? Mayor, just for formality, if you could just take a vote on opening the public hearing formally for this matter. Um, just for the record. Yep. Okay. And then uh we'll do the same. I move to open the public hearing. I second. All those in favor say I. I. I. And do we have she got to say it again? We can we can take the gentleman's comments as a part of the public record. That's certainly fine. I just insert it there in case anybody who's waiting for. Perfect. And then if there's no one else, I will make a motion to go ahead and close the public hearing. Second. All those in favor say I. I. Okay. Um staff, do we have any answer to the kind of the specifics of how the project. Yeah, I think we did host a neighborhood meeting. It was January, so we talked about different types of projects, right? So, if it's an overlay project, there essentially wouldn't be an assessment. We would we would use the the free overlay would become an overlay project. We talked about that meeting that based on the site conditions and some of the characteristics of the pavement. We had some concerns and hesitation to just go go basically put another two inches on top of that pavement because with the cracks that you have, it'll propagate up and we'll lose some value there. But we didn't know until we went through a feasibility report. But if it did go beyond an overlay that there was a potential assessment that would need to be considered. And then the third thing that we evaluated in the feasibility was to you know basically rebuild the full section. So there was kind of three different projects that were outlined and there was different and that um we did you know have the conversation about there would be future times to speak on the project uh which tonight is is the first formal time um and what tonight does really caps the assessment so tonight's decision if council were to move forward is that this assessment is capped at 4500 that would be the max assessment we could do uh as we move through the project in theory there would be or there would be another opportunity to speak at the assessment hearing but In theory, we could lower the assessments if there was some justification. If that would be totally council's opinion on choice on that matter, but you know, tonight's just cing that kind of setting expectations. Next step would be to design the project, bid it, get real information, then decide whether to move forward with the assessments and or the project. So there's kind of the vote is like of your opinion on do you support an assessment to do a larger project. I think with staff's attention to your question of do we have a choice tonight is to say do I support getting assessed more project in in staff's opinion this project would provide more value to the city long term the soils had modeled soils which really indicated high levels of groundwater uh and so adding the drain tile so just putting pavement over it will you know make a more strategic investment so um the outcomes of feasibility show that we get the most value uh by doing a full depth depth reclamation. But that you know per our assessment policy means we we should consider assessments based on the assessment policy. But again tonight is your chance to say do I like this project or not or your first step to do that for council to listen. Does that answer your question? Can I ask an additional question? Briefly. Sure. Briefly. So today I noticed marking all the utilities. So, does that mean this project is going forward regardless of why? No, there's several steps that would have to go has to come back to us several times for different purposes. We haven't even designed the project. So, I'm not sure who I mean, we could have had a drain tile repair. I'm not sure who called that. We'd have to check. It could even been a private person that marked the utilities, but Okay. Yeah. I don't know. We haven't been authorized to go. I'd have to follow up with the team. I'm not aware of that. Um, tonight's the night where we approve the project to design. We can follow up on that. I'm not aware of that. Yellow. If you can come up to the microphone, please. We don't buy. We respect your input an awful lot. Appreciate it. Um this is something with um my address is 98 trail. Uh when the came out today uh he came to my yard and I asked him what are you doing and he said um they are going to be putting in a new road and just come out and identify where he did by the road. Yeah. you actually can do my yard. I can never I could follow up on that. Um the project is not moving forward. Honestly, I'm not going to be able to answer that. We wouldn't have plans to to go off of to do that on that. We haven't designed it yet. So, it'd be really premature. So, I can certainly follow up on that, but that there's the in the scope is to actually, you know, if they move forward is to start that design. So, if they pre if they prematured it, which is a hypothetical, you know, we'll address that. And it have just been a what they're describing as a go for one locate. So you call and locate it about it was about it was about six trucks that Yeah. So when you call in a locate all the small utility providers have to go out and measure it. So like if you were a resident I want to plant a tree based on the description they have to mark it. So it could have been an email that triggered that you know so if that happened we'll address it but it you know that the project hasn't been approved. If that was premature we'll address it. But tonight commercial and I do have to say I I I have absolutely nothing to hide in my property, but I wish they would have told me that they were going to be coming up to do this. So, you know, I have a have a German Shepherd that's with me all the time. They came walking around the corner. I didn't know if somebody was going to be on my property and and what happen if that dog defended me? I'm going to get sued by. So, I appreciate it. If it's going to move forward like that in the future that somebody contacts us and lets us know when they plan on being in the neighborhood. Yeah. And there would be additional notice. Yes. Yes. So, again, we can't control a small utility provider locates because that's who went on your property, but if it sounds like that potentially we have to follow up on something, but yes, the intent is to communicate and that would have been a premature call in if that's the case. So, we'll look into that. I you know I don't think resources may spend it other than an hour to submit that and we'll make sure that we don't pay for that if that was the case but I don't want to presume I mean I trust the data here it sounds like it was associated with the project at that scale and we'll have to address it so I apologize for that but again we have no control over the locator so we can tell you they're coming but I can't stop the locates a private company that does that but you know I guess I apologize but it's good to have that data because we need to know your eyes on the ground a lot of times so please let know if you have those questions. Um, that's what we're here for. So, please use that contact information and and and to go back to the question that you had. You said you'd have multiple opportunities to come and talk about it. This is the first and there will be multiple other opportunities as it goes through the process. This is just the first hearing, the first step. And technically the public hearing is closed, but if you have one. Hi, my name is Randy Chis. Um I was under the same impression as hal was that there wasn't really any decisions made that we would get an opportunity to vote on this when they went from gravel to pavement that was the case. In fact the whole neighborhood had to to decide whether did they want us to try to regravel it or or put pavement in at this cost. It seems like it's a totally different deal here. Um, and by the way, I' I've been there for 41 years. Um, the group that came out today and marked everything again was a group called Spot. But, um, I talked to I went and talked to the guy and I said, "What's going on? Are you getting this ready for some the road work and stuff?" says, "Yeah, I guess they're going to do some some drilling waring." And I'm going like, "Uh, I believe they already did that, but I was there." So, there there's a lot of confusion about what's going on uh in the whole operation. Uh, one us being informed and then, uh, the other one, uh, why are you having somebody come out and pay for for that? It's obvious the pavement that make these guys to do that and it's and the work's already been done. They drilled holes all the way up and down the street what was underneath the pavement and the supposedly help. I'm I'm just not confident in Yeah, mayor. I I think just for framing purposes, um just to be clear that so this is the improvement hearing, right? Council's making a decision about whether or not the project should go forward. I would direct the council's attention to primary to point one of the resolution, which talks about whether the project is necessary, cost effective, and feasible. You have a feasibility report that was in your packet. Um, you've heard from city engineer and staff about it. And the the determination and the reason for the public hearing is to take that input on whether to go forward with the project. There would be a hearing later on on the amount of assessments, as Kevin mentioned, they can go down, but not up. Yep. Um, but this is the hearing to decide whether the project should go forward and that would be when we have a if this first one uh was approved, this first decision point uh when we have a design and and a budget for it. So, right, if it's way under budget, oh, that makes sense. If it's way five times over what we thought, then okay, we got Right. And and so so part of the reason that the assessments become that issue is because it's part of the way the project is funded to determine that helping to determine feasibility for it and this is authorizing that next step of the preparation plans for Excellent. Thank you. Any questions for Kevin or general? Yeah, Mr. Mayor, if I can again, Kevin, you have no idea what's going on with locators, borings, whatever. And I I completely believe our our residents and stuff. So, if if there's something a miss, you'll be able to let them know. Yes, I can follow up. I'll be able to figure this out by tomorrow if we can send a message out. My questions before that came up and again thank you all for asking. Chism trail was put in when was it How's that for a good question? I'm asking him not not not public. I can I can send that out to 40. Really? Yeah. Was it sooner than that? It was almost 30 years ago. Okay. Okay. I can get the data. No, that's okay. I don't I don't need sidebars or anything, folks. 30 years. My next question goes with that. Why so long to determine the free overlay? I thought that's supposed to be done relatively soon after that. Fortunate that it hasn't been done, but something again, folks, I'm having a conversation. We've listened. I'm trying to get someplace that supports what we're trying to do and ask questions for you guys. So, I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, but why is such a delay on that overlay? Just whatever. And then why why what is the I haven't driven down Chisum for probably three months. It's close to me and such, but I haven't driven down that road because there hasn't been anything um going on. Is there is it deteriorating? Is there frost heaves? Is there all kinds of problems? What What's happening, Kevin? So, I'll try to do your first one answer. I know I was rattling fast. Yeah. So, uh the frankest, bluntest answer is we don't have a CIP that addresses road maintenance in the city. Thank you. We never I've been here eight years. We still don't really have much. When I started it was we put $75,000 to a road in Corkran and we have 70 miles and we're gaining two miles a year. We have we have never addressed that issue. Uh so it's really due to lack of investment over 40 years, 50 years. There's some roads that have held up better and some that have held up worse. And it's really due to the type of soils. Right. This neighborhood at this point with the high water, you know, water is the road's enemy. So if you're in areas with high water, your road's not going to last as long. And 40 years ago, they just graded the road and plow, you know, pay bill for it. They didn't really take account for that. However, sometimes it was new development, sometimes it was city, but it can't really go back 40 years and change that. So, yeah, when the council, this is before my time, so post 10 years, the council was looking at doing this. It's a long historical conversation of how do you pay for paving roads? How do you pay for fixing roads? And so in our formal assessment policy, there is a section that clearly says these roads have never received a maintenance project, a significant one other than, you know, when you talk maintenance projects, there's crack filling, there's seal codes, those are, you know, there's the reclamite that we do, those are kind of lower level maintenance projects. The first kind of more significant one that we consider assessments on is an overlay. So that's kind of where you cross the threshold assessment policy. So So we have working list in our formally adopted policy. We didn't include it here. We included it in like I think the January February meeting so we can resend that back out. But there's a there's a paragraph that lists every road in Corpin that never got an overlay. And so our approach without a CIP is we we we drive around work off of that list. We've been increasing the budget. So we're up to 250,000 that we put towards, you know, trying to address these overlays. And we every year drive around staff and we try to put, you know, get to the worst streets worst or decide where we can put that best value play. Um, so that's really the program that we have. It's pretty informal. Uh, but that's where we are as a community. So like like to Corkran Trail was Trail I think it's three years ago trail was identified. They were a free overlay that was a horseshoe that had the two ends I believe had uh No, the inside was The hand part of the horseshoe was paved. The two outsides were gravel. We did a similar project. We're mimicking that here. Applause woods was half paved and whatnot over, you know, by North. So, we had some awkward things. Those were previous identified as needing to be addressed more. So, this Chism Trail is one of the, you know, one of the it's next up in the line. Is it We're probably three, four years away from ending. Is it beat up pretty bad? It's I mean it's passable but it needs a maintenance treatment right. So and then the biggest difference between this is the type of cracking. So because of the model soils because of the high groundwater the cracking is different. So it's an engineering assessment on best value. We can put an overlay on this road. Typic we hope to get you know 15 years out of an overlay. I I don't think we get 15 years out of an overlay on this road based on the existing conditions. And usually usually cities roads are maintained every 20 years. So, so 15 I'm coming from a city that had a pretty rob I came from shock. They had a very robust pavement plan. Uh you're you're typically doing seal coat uh a lot of other lower level about the 15year mark is when you when you do what what we are talking about. So the free overlay and and then now so we're at the 30-year mark. So, one of the things that I do want to say is the cost that it would have for a free overlay, uh, that's being factored into the assessed cost. And so, you're not missing out on the benefit of a free overlay. Uh, I I just want to emphasize that because we recognize because of our maintenance plan, we weren't able to do it at the 15-year mark. Yeah. And and we are working to address that. As Kevin said, we're improving our CIP plan. But so there is a credit that is happening here for the free overlay. And if we were to do an overlay, you're going to have a problem. We're not going to get So we want to be good stewards of your dollars, of your time and energy, and of this city's tax dollars. And so the significant portion of this project is going to make a better road for those that live on it. And so credit for the free overlay and then a not to exceed value for what it costs to get this better road because of the modeled soils that's necessary to not just do an overlay. It would be kind of like, you know, if you have a bad roof, you you can you can fix spots on it, but if you recognize that it's time to replace the roof, it's most beneficial to the homeowner and most beneficial to the project to replace the roof at the time rather than just spot change. And again, the the process over in Corkin Trail was exactly what you're talking about. This is the first meeting of a number and such. It would be essentially the same style road, no curb gutter, just put a correct base down and pave it and then finish up the ditches and repair culverts and everything that happened over in Corkran Trails and such. Yeah. A little less storm water in this project. Corkran Trail had some flooding. There was it was a whole different drainage improvements are, you know, we're recommending they stay in the roadway bed because that's we enter this as a street project, not a drainage project. We're doing everything we can within the confines of the rideway. You know, the residents provided some feedback there and so we're focusing on the things we can do with the road um and opportunities for resident feed like this is to to set the not to exceed amount for the assessments. And then there's other conversations, other considerations that that could change that amount. It can only go down. It can't go up from this point. But this makes sure that the project that needs to happen gets approved and then now it's a matter of figuring out how do we deliver on the project. Can I second question if you still have it? I think I focus there. The second question or you satisfied it. Uh how old is the road and why the delay and the overlay were my two questions. So you you nailed it. We're we're growing up and we're doing what we were supposed to be doing a while back. And uh again the the the confusion all of these things everybody's I'll say it air is on fire because they were out marking it and somebody said they're replacing the road and we did not initiate that. So we'll we'll issue a message that says the road proven has not moved forward and you know we'll find out what happened if we explain apologize for that. Um but yeah the project has not officially moved forward. We're probably if the project were to move forward, it would be like after Labor Day because of the timelines we have. We probably have 30 days of design. We have to go for bid 30 days. Then we have to come back have you know we'll probably tie the bid award to the assessment hearing because of the assessments are a lot lower than the value of the project. So we would recommend that you that decision go hand in hand before you move forward the project and then we have to do contracts. So this project, you know, probably would take two weeks once they start, but it's a September, early October project if everything moves on the path. So this is the beginning. We could provide that update to everyone here. We we had a great turnout at the meeting in January. It it's kind of awkward because you gear up everybody and then there's this big gap as we go through the 429 process. Um we've tried we've tried to have a open line of communication. Um appreciate everyone's feedback. Like I said before, if you guys see something that's weird, let us know. Uh we can we can disseminate that information and that that would be abnormal to be state, you know, marking the whole neighborhood. So we have to follow up to see what happens. And then there's the one gentleman on the end there, his comments and such. It was a team meeting. We're still hold the team meetings for it was a public meeting. There was a couple people that we had both. We did joint for flexibility. So they were still able to do online. There was a significant amount of people in that room that was full and there was some people calling in and some people on team. Cool that we were still using. It's still a useful tool. So outstanding. Thank you guys for saying something. Appreciate it. Council's opinion on if we do uh proceed here um with the numbers that I think has been generally our historical precedent um and is the staff recommendation of the 10-year option and the 4 for one% interest rate. That makes sense. Yeah. And just to be clear that uh that it was based up the 3.41 off of the 2025A bond that was a couple months ago. So that's the most recent. So for the audience's understanding, uh we just did really well in terms of improving our stature with our financial operations. So we got a significantly lower rate. market rate at the time was about 6.7 and because we're doing well we got 3.41 And so, uh, the policy is that it's only 1% over what we get on a bond. And so, I just want to say because we're doing good, it it's beneficial. The interest rates can be better. And I should note that the property owners would have, if it moved forward, choice, they would have the ability to pay it off without the 10 years. Those are just the two options. Prepaid, you prepay the assessment in full or spread it out over 10 years at that proposed rate. And again, that gets adopted at the at the assessment. Not tonight. We're just capping those and setting expectations for the next conversation. Okay. Any other questions or discussion? I'll entertain a motion. I was just going to say one of my least favorite days as a homeowner was the day Maple Grove sent me a note they were going to redo my road. So, I it's never a good time to have to shell out money for a capital improvement project. Uh, and I I take it very seriously. We don't want to do more than is necessary. We don't want to have people spend more than is necessary. If you look at the overall breakdown, it looks like it's a pretty good deal in terms of how much the city is bearing. Um, and we'll we'll do our best to make sure it's as low as it can be for you. With that, I will entertain a motion to approve uh resolution 202540 ordering the Chisum Trail Improvement Project as presented and authorized staff to proceed with plans and specifications. So, moved. Second. All right. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. And with that, see if we had new business in close session on there, but don't believe that those were autopop populated again. Maybe. Perfect. Easy enough to cross off. Uh any staff reports? Uh other than um Chief Godalk will be serving as uh acting city administrator in my absence beginning the 22nd of May. Uh and our uh public works director and our assistant city administrator will also be out. So um in that window of time, just ask for your grace. We'll be operating within staff and I will be swimming with the fishes in the Bahamas. I'm super stoked about it. Uh taking care of our veterans and first responders on a on a voyage of healing now. So, how long you been doing that, Jay? Again, I've been doing it for six years. So, for for your understanding, uh I'm I'm on a on a part of an organization called Deep Sea Valkyries. We take disabled veterans and first responders on scuba trips as an alternative therapy to help them navigate PTSD. Uh and so I will be out to sea with 15 veterans and first responders for a little over a week, diving three to four times a day. And then we teach them how to navigate the challenges post traumatic stress disorder and the impact of moral injury. And I'm happy to say the reason this started, we started 10 years ago uh was to try and combat uh suicide amongst first responders and veterans. And of our participants over the last 10 years, we've been successful in in preventing any of them from moving forward with that. And in contrast, seen a lot of thriving moving away from substance abuse, moving away from self harm. Uh and I've done two weddings for guys that have recovered from those. So, we're super stoked recently, right? Was that the one I did? I did one in March down in Florida. Uh positive story about that one. It was somebody who has uh attempted suicide twice previously, was recovering from addiction, and uh they was a participant about four years ago, turned their life around, and is uh just living living a different life. So, it's the best thing I get to do. Uh, no disrespect to our community, but if I could do that full-time, I would do that full-time. Uh, but I can do it full time because I love my wife and my wife doesn't want me to be at sea uh for all that time. She gives me permission to go down there and do it. If you haven't seen the pictures in Jay's office to the public or to council, set up a meeting with Jay and I'm sure you'd be happy to show you. They're pretty cool. And I'm wearing my happy scuba diving tie tonight as I'm thinking about going. Very cool. Appreciate it, Jay. Thank you for doing that. have a great trip. Thanks. All righty. Uh, council reports. I just had one brief thing and I believe it was added to the agenda here on um, basically just wanting to get approval from council uh, for me and Jay to author a letter to send in to the legislature slashgovernor. Um there's a lot kind of in there of the attachments um from the letter we got from the county and the meeting we had with uh Commissioner Anderson and and someone from his staff. basically boils down to asking the legislature and governor whe as they're in the middle of the complex budget negotiations which are extra complex this year to not try to shift any um service costs that the state has been funding to local property tax owners as a general uh general kind of restrictive rule uh or that's what we're asking for and a number of cities have been asking Um, and we'd be sending that in shortly because there's about two weeks left in the session if they end on time. Um, and it's it the more you dive into it, it can get a little political, but I think the baseline item of, hey, don't pass this off to local property tax owners can be kind of universal. And that's that's kind of the the angle we've taken the letter. That's true. I attended the session on Saturday that he hosted and it looked like first year impact and the worst case scenario was like $100 to the typical corporate household and property tax but it escalates yearon year. So by year four or five it would be an extra $400 to $500 and and I believe that's just for the health and human services of their budget. Yeah. So Mr. Mayor, I'd rather you and Jay write the letter than me. So, I would I would appreciate your Can I Can I get a I would make that motion. I'll second that. Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. And with that, we have our city council schedule in the If I could add one thing, I had the privilege to be MC for the Lions at Hope Church. Yes. on Tuesday for 18 of our young adults graduating from high school. And uh while it is a nervous thing of mine of speaking in front of people, especially something like that, I think I did okay. Jay was there. He can contest. Thank you for Thank you for going out. It was uh our volunteers in the Lions are unbelievable. Um, my public service announcement to anybody listening and anybody here, Alliance need more volunteers. Um, a a big thing that came out of it and and I I looked at all 18 applications and such that were approved and and such and the biggest thing that sticks out to me is our future is very very bright. um they all had to submit three years of transcripts for their education and what they've done the last three years. And out of all those three years, out of 18 kids, young adults, there was only one C. Out of all of those transcripts, the rest were I think I calculated out 78% were A's and 23% 22% if I can do the math in my head were B's, but otherwise just one C. And these kids are going from um growing their faith in in in the religion side of things to doctors, nurses, engineers. um oneperson firearm and gunsmith training two-year type deal to be that resource and such. So, I'm extremely proud of those young adults living in Corkran and such. I'm I'm honored to be asked to do that for the Lions. Um some great parents there, um siblings and such. So, let you all know we need volunteers. Thanks very much. If I could piggy back off that for just a second, Mr. Mayor. So, in terms of the Lion's impact on the community, one of the things I want everybody who's watching to understand is uh one outstanding data point uh about 1100 scholarship recipients since 1989 in the community totaling over $660,000 uh just for Corkran kids. Every kid in Corkran that applies gets something. So that that's remarkable. I I I'm I was a lion in in Shakapei. Uh we had one scholarship recipient and to see that every Corkran kid who applies gets a scholarship and the dollar amount since 1989 where you know 660 that's incredible and that's just a testament to the Lion's work that they're doing to take care of the community. Uh but also to council member Bearing Camp's point, they need action figures to help them. Uh because there's there's some folks that just where they're at in the stage of life and with their health, they can't continue to do this heavy lifting. And also to put they have nine events this year. If you're got your calendars out, May 31st is the first tractor this year. June 15th, I think, is a Henipin County Fair. Um July 11th through the 13th is the Hamill Rodeo. Anybody? Nobody's writing this down. Come on. Tell me some signs. August August uh 11th and 12th, I think, is country days. Country days. I'm just about done. And then uh another tractor pull shortly after that. And then it finishes off with the demolition derby in uh beginning of September. So, if you can't volunteer, please go and spend a few dollars for ticket. And I know there is beverages and other good food there. So, how's that for my public service announcement for this evening? I just wanted to add thank you for for going and doing that. And Jay, thank you for attending. I was supposed to go and had a unfortunate family emergency, so I wasn't able to make it, but wanted to apologize to the lines for for short notice, having to cancel on them, and hopefully I can make it there next year. But and then Another volunteer for our community is the hope church is where it happened for them to open their doors and share share their church for those kind of events and such, but we we we live in a really cool really cool city. So, thank you guys. So, I know I'm not supposed to talk. I'll let you. But thank you for the the newsletter has a lot of good useful information. every month and it's got all your events in there. Do all you guys read it? Go ahead. Not everybody reads it. They throw it away and then call and ask what's going on. It could be it could be online if you want to save some money. It is online. It is. We make it very much available as as yeah as available to everyone as possible. But all of it is all of it is up to date as much as possible. There are some things that have already happened, but the timing and such, but thank you for that input. And staff, I'm sure, appreciates that very, very much. So, cool. And we just have our city council schedule in there. Uh, only addition, Mr. Mayor. Uh, we added July 24th work session after the last work. So, that's the only change to the schedule. And with that, question, sorry. Can we change it to 5:30 p.m.? I would suggest that based on today's discussion, I'm concerned that we're going to get done in time for the council meeting because we we were really tight. Uh so I'll but I'll take direction from council. Were you late too? Just about and I didn't get to eat dinner. I was late. So what we we we could add dinner to the agenda if that's helpful. That would be a good idea. So we we can do that to make sure that you have brain food. You don't want to see me when I'm angry cuz yeah, we might need that whole time. I mean angry. You don't want to see me when I'm angry. I I like the hangry deal. So, and with that, I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. I'll second. I'll make the motion. Michelle will second it. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. We're journed.