So, we'll call the meeting to order. We'll have a roll call here. Amach >> here. >> Colts >> here. Tilbury >> here. >> Perian >> here. Coots >> here. >> Hinson >> here. He did say here. >> I saw your mouth move. David, >> I'm here. >> There you go. uh you'd like to join me in the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. So with the agenda tonight, do we have any addition additional things for the agenda from anybody? >> None. Seeing uh do I have a motion for approval? >> Uh motion by Buck Holtz. Second. >> Yes. >> Second by Tilbury. All in favor? >> I oppose the same. Okay. Thank you. Nobody's here for open form. So, we can move along to the approval of the minutes. And what you have before you are actually three sets of minutes. Uh going back to uh one meeting in 2023, >> no, two meetings I think in 2023, one in 2024. And uh what ended up happening here is uh these uh charter commission meetings happened right about the time that Jessica Bisey was transitioning out. >> Yep. >> And um uh these reports actually did not get filed. And so uh we need to approve uh the minutes of these three sets. And my my question actually to to you Deb is do these uh minutes need to be approved individually or can they be approved as one? >> You could you can do them individually or you could do them all as one. Um it just depends on any changes that need to be made. >> Why don't we just do them individually? >> I think that's right. >> Just to make sure. >> Okay. So >> I'll move the August 22nd, 2023 minutes. >> Second. >> Okay. Uh, chairman, uh, chairman, this is David Hickinson. Um, there's several errors of misspelling on my name on several of these documents. >> Okay. >> So, before we approve anything, I would like to point those out. Deb does have those. I don't know if she was able to correct them for tonight. If she has, then I have no objection, but I did provide um six instances of my name being misspelled. >> Well, we apologize for that. Yes, they are updated and everybody has an updated copy on the dis tonight. So, what's in front of them is the update with the with the fixes with your name. >> Correct. >> Right. Thank you, Deb. Then I'll withdraw my um corrections since they've already been made. >> There was only one of mine >> two L's. >> And I really care. Yeah, it's not me. No, >> you're you're missing a T on my name and a couple of these on this August 22nd set um on the number three and then the uh number seven >> returnment. >> Well, you had it right on the present. >> Yep. >> So, >> you know, and those were started and I probably should have read through them because I put my name on the bottom of them, but I think Jess started them and then they got drafted and they never got in front of you. So, >> I'm not insulted people spell it wrong all the time. I'm just letting you know. fix. Deb, do you want to go through and correct those spellings that still need to be corrected before we send this >> these copies in? >> Yes, we can. We can do that. >> Okay, good. So, are there there's no comments? There's a motion and a second. All in favor of approval of these minutes from August 22nd, 2020. >> You want to do a roll call? >> Yes. So, I'm sorry. We need to do a roll call vote. Thank Thank you for the correction. So, >> we should uh probably He modified the motion. >> Yeah. With with the corrections of of the of the name spellings >> and I would second that. >> So we'll modify the motion. Buckles will make the motion. Gach will second it with a modification. >> So roll call. Gach. >> Yes. >> Buckles. >> Ier. >> Hi. >> Coots. >> Hi. >> Hawinson. >> Hi. and lo I. So then we have September 26, 2023. Do we have any again comments, changes, additions to these minutes? >> I'll move the uh September 26, 2023 minutes. >> Second. >> Okay. Chuck Holds motion. Uh the mock second again. We need a roll call vote on this. >> Yeah. Do we have any uh spelling issues on this one? >> I see one under number six. The motion >> buckles should have a T in it. >> Yeah, it's on three. >> Oh, yep. >> So >> again, the motion >> motion with those correction >> spelling name corrections. Y >> second. Okay. Okay. Uh, >> hi >> Tilbury. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> And >> hi. >> And lother. I >> thank you. And then uh November 12th meeting. >> I'll move the minutes for November 12th. >> Okay. Do we have any? Again, I think there's some things that need to be corrected >> with any name spelling corrections required. >> I see one. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. Motion. Second. Roll call. >> Hi. >> Hi. Tilbury. >> Hi. >> Aaron. >> Hi. >> Hoots. >> Hi. >> Hinson. >> Hi. >> And Lother. I. Next item on the agenda. Any unfinished business? And does anybody have anything they want to bring up in terms of unfinished business? Okay, moving on to new business. Um, >> this is actually pertaining to >> I can give a little >> Why don't you Why don't you do that? De's going to give a report on why we're actually moving in this direction with the commissioner term update >> with the charter amendments. Yeah. So, staff is recommending three amendments to help get us alignment with what the chair what the current charter practices are right now. And then one item is to come in compliance or be compliant with some Minnesota rules. There's been some changes there. Um so we want to get those updated. Um, so the charter commission can propose these amendments without referendum, but we'll need to make a recommendation to the city council for adoption by ordinance, which will also require public hearing, which is tentatively scheduled for December 11th. Um, in your packets, you had a redline copy of the charter with the recommended changes. >> I do have one quick question. The public hearing, is that with the council or is that >> that's with the council? Yep. Yep. So um so you have a redlinined copy with the recommended change changes to the charter in your packet. Um and one of the items the first item was a change to the number of commission seats. Um in article one of the charter it stated that the Corkran uh charter has seven commission seats. The commission is currently operating with 10 seats. So staff is recommending including the language to the charter to memorial memorialize the number of seats to seven permanently. Um at this point we have six commissioners that are having terms that expire here at the end of the week. Um and we have two that have submitted applications for reappointment which will go off to the chief judge of district court. Um and once the two commissioners are reappointed by the judge, the charter commission would then be left with five active voting members. Um reducing that charter number to seven would help maintain a quorum because right now if we lose our members and we're still set at 10, there will be no quorum. You know, we would never have enough to hold a quorum. So reducing that to seven and then even if we have five voting members after that we would still ensure a quorum and then that would give us time to fill those two extra vacant seats after that. So um so that was the first amendment that we're looking to add. Um you guys have any questions about that? >> Okay. The second amendment is just on term limits. Also in article one of the charter, it stated no commissioner may serve more than two successive terms. So to align with what the charter's actual operations are now and to avoid the inconsistencies going forward, we're proposing adding a section to the charter with language stating that there are no term limits >> because we historically have not been actually following that. >> Correct. >> Yes. Yes. So we'll >> So we're going to change the charter to conform with what we're acting. >> Yeah. >> Also a statute. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then the third um amendment that we're we need to do um this is to come into compliance with the petition compliance with the Minnesota rule 8205 1010. So, we were made aware of a potential update that we should be making to the charter. Um, section 7.3 needs to be updated to include the date of birth to the language to bring the charter into alignment. >> So, for the petitions. Yeah. So, right now it was asking and previously the name um address and now they want birth dates and I guess this is to verify that they are actual voters. So, um that's just bringing that up to um compliance there. So, and those are the three options or the three items before you. We can do a motion and approve them all in one. Um so, tonight I'm recommending considering a motion to approve the charter commission resolution 202501 recommending the three amendments to the corporate city council for adoption. >> So, move second. >> So, but I do have a minor correction. >> Yeah. >> Uh, under 7.03, the petitions language. I'm sure it's just something that was with the red lines, but there should when you struck the and between names and addresses, you need a comma after names. And so, there's two um spots on there for that. So, just wanted to something very minor, but we want it to be correct. >> We will get that in there. And does anybody have any actually comments about >> No, it makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, we have a motion uh on the >> and that's as corrected with the >> as corrected >> uh to approve all three of the amendments uh that are before us to the charter. >> Uh we'll start with Demach. >> Hi. >> Colts. I >> Tilbury. >> Hi >> Darian. >> Hi >> Coots. >> Hi >> Hinson. >> Hi >> Lother. I also uh thank you for that. I'd like to go back to uh actually 78 for a second if we could. Um and just Is is there formality that we need to accept the resignations that have been handed in? Uh is that something that we need to uh >> um well that would be should be um within this item 7B that we're requesting that um they accept the resignations and then the applications for reappoint to be sent to >> Sure. >> judge. So, um, Gerald Tucker is resigning as of the 18th and David, who is joining us tonight, is resigning on the 18th. >> Uh, Daniel has agreed to be reappointed. Uh, Randy, I believe you're resigning on the 18th. Thank you all for being here tonight. It just helped us get this moved forward. Appreciate it. Uh Megan Hibbert is resigning on the 18th. Jonathan, you are being reappointed and then George and my terms uh expire October of next year. >> Yes. We'll have to get our applications in next year after the 1st. >> Yeah. And uh Jim, you are serving until March 17, 2028. >> Yep. >> Okay. So, uh, do I have a motion to accept the resignations of the current commissioners? >> Move it. >> Okay. Buck. Motion. >> Second. >> Second by Demach. >> Again, roll call. >> Hi, >> Buck Holtz. >> I >> Hootz. >> Hi. >> Atinson. >> Hi, >> and Lother. I >> thank you for that. Next on the agenda is our annual report to >> chair. Can I just have one question? >> So that item 7B, it was to accept the resignations and then um accept the applications for reappoint. >> That was that would be by motion. Yeah. >> Yeah. I just want to make sure that's the motion that you're >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. But thank you for clarifying that. Um then the next on the agenda would be our report to the judge annual report and I believe we have a copy of that for you. That would be this. >> Yes, that's it. >> Do we need to read this at all? >> That would be page 52 of your packet. >> I will move the submission of the annual report. Second that >> holds motion. Second. >> Roll call. >> Hi. >> Buckle. >> I >> Hawinson. >> Hi. >> And Lother. I I think we have to set a date for the next meeting and I I I prefer it to be a little bit earlier in the year than later like like in October. I think that works best if there is some kind of issue that comes up. It gives us a little wiggle room to schedule >> that would be better. >> Yeah. Another meeting. >> I agree. I just um so just make sure it's not me week. He is. I'm I'm going to be racing out of here to a football game. >> Sure. >> We were desperate this year. So, >> I understand. I'm just letting you know that. Um, >> are you are the commissioners okay if if Deb actually picks a date in October that doesn't conflict with MEA >> or would you want something at the end of September so it's before your term expires? >> Well, that'd be good. >> Okay, >> let's do that. All right, we can do that >> just in case we don't fill these other vacancies. We want to make sure that we have a quorum >> to be able to do the appointments. >> Be a good idea. >> Yes. >> So, can you send out a notification on that and then we'll put it in our calendars >> tenatively? Yes. The end of September. >> Uh is there anything else for tonight? And just a question as to whether or not any of the uh members of the commission should attend the city council public hearing. >> I think you're free to do that if you would like to. I don't know if it's necessary. >> Probably not necessary. I mean, it's not pretty slam. >> It's not required. I think it should be >> be pretty >> consensus driven, you know, >> and it takes unanimous vote of the council. >> Yes. And that's why we kind of pushed to the um the 11th because I did hear um the second meeting in November. We weren't going to have all all the council members. So >> um Okay. >> And we know that we will hopefully for this December 11th because we're also doing two taxation that night. So >> and you're certainly more than capable of expressing the reasoning. >> Right. I can I'll check my schedule to see if I would be available, but I could probably be available. >> Great. >> I'll probably be in the middle of a bunch of rehearsals, though. So, can it be early on in the agenda of that night? >> It was under consent agenda, I would think. >> Can we put it under consent? It's a public hearing, >> so it' be a first item. because I may have to rent out for some rehearsals. >> You can do the public hearing for that before the truth and taxation. So, >> yeah. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Great. >> Anything else? >> Move to adjourn. >> Thank you. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Second. Okay. >> We'll do a roll call on GA. >> Hi. >> Colts. >> Hi. >> Tilberg. >> Hi. >> Perant. >> Hi. >> Boots. >> Hi. Hawinson. >> Hi. >> And Ler. I