All righty. I'll go ahead and call the meeting to order. Start with a roll call. McKe here. Lantern here. Friedrich present. Uh Baron Camp here. Nicholls also present. Perfect. Like to stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Agenda approval. Looks like we have a couple additions. Uh maybe one 10 uh item 10 being removed. Uh so one one addition uh Mr. Mayor, item 6, charitable gambling application. Uh one update item 8A and item 10 should still be on there. That's a type of move up the agenda. should be on there. Shouldn't be on there. No. Correct. Yeah. Yeah, it was moved. Correct. It's just part of the template. Okay. So, no closed session. Okay. Uh, anything from council? Then I will entertain a motion to approve the agenda as amended. So, move Kim. Second, Nicholls. All those in favor say I. I. I. On to presentations, which we have four of today. We'll start with Pat Meisters uh longevity award for 35 years of service. [Applause] Pat, if we can get you to come upstairs. Mr. Mayor, Pat Meister is our longest tenur employee of the city. Uh his dedication to the city of Corkran and her citizens marked by the exceptional care that Pat brings to each and every project. His success as operation superintendent can be measured by the quality of our roads, our parks, and our infrastructure. As a supervisor, he leads by example, never asking his team to complete any task that he would not do himself. He supports his team and works to create opportunities for individual growth and foster areas of improvement. And today, we celebrate his 35th anniversary with the city of Corkran. [Applause] And before I sit down, I do have, as is our recent tradition, some fun fact when Pat started in 1990. In that year, The Simpsons aired its first season. The Hubble Space Telescope was launched into space on April 24th. Home Alone premiered becoming the highest grossing film film released in 1990 uh earning 285 million in the box office. Mall of America was one year into construction opening in 1992. The Northstars made a run to the Stanley Cup finals losing to the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Twins went on to finish last place in the division one year prior to winning the World Series in 1991 which is still of course the last time Minnesota team has won a championship. It's been a long time. Long time speech. Speaker. Thank you. [Applause] I just wanted to quickly also thank his wife Paula for uh for uh allowing him to serve us so well and always sometimes forgotten. So I want to acknowledge her as well. So thank you. Awesome. Thank you very much. Awesome. All right. Well, then we will move on to the next item which is a presentation from Three Rivers Park District and Marge Beard is here for us. Thank you, Mayor. It's my pleasure to be here. My name is Marge Beard and I'm the Three Rivers Park District Commissioner who represents District One and District One includes almost all the western counties including the So, it's my pleasure to be here tonight to share a little bit about you. I'm sorry it's taking just a second. For whatever reason, TV's gone up. Pat's picture. Pat's picture. Uh, that's what I'm blaming it on. Uh, so, sovereign a second. Our mission is to promote environmental stewardship through recreation and education in a natural resources based park system. So the key there is everything we do is natural resources based. So for example in three rivers park you won't see things like fields tend to be city natural resources. So who is this three rivers district? So we were established in 1957 by the state legislators were actually a standalone local unit of government and we are uh operated by a board of commissioners. We have seven commissioners five commissioners are elected. Two are appointed by county and I serve in one of the elected roles. So three park districtcludes all of Henipin County and that's exactly what it sounds like. It's all of Henipin County with the exception of Minneapolis because Minneapolis actually has their own park. We have a longstanding multi-deade partnership with Scott County. So if you're down in Lake for example park or a couple of other ones down in Sky County you'll see the river signage because we have a long partnership with them and we manage parks under so it's really a good use of government because it takes a lot of that administrative cost and spreads it over a wider effort. So it works very well relationship. So, Three Rivers also operates other facilities owned by other entities. Those typically are golf facilities. So, for example, Glen Lake Golf init our signage is there as well as the Parker Lake driving range in that's actually owned by H County. workous county and we run that on behalf of county partnership with them. We have 25 parks and park reserves 27,000 acres of land and that's about 42 square miles 175 miles of regional trail and regional trails um are those trails that typically are outside our parks. They for the most part connect park to park and they're easily recognizable because they have a 10 foot wide paved trail and it has the distinctive yellow dash line on it. So if you're driving around and see the yellow dash line, you can be pretty sure that that's a three river trail. We also have another 300 miles of trails within our parks and those trails may be paved but um many times they might also be trails. Personally, I'm a hiker. I like the trails on. So I have to find my trails that I like to walk on the parks. And we get 15 million visitors a year. If you think about it, that's really significant. That's more than two times our state's population that visits right here in suburban county. Think about all the people in our area. We're well recognized for our management of natural resources. It's A few things I'd just like to highlight. So, a picture of the water there. We're dedicated to uh trying our best to protect the quality of water. You're going to get a presentation about that coming up. Um we have, for example, we hire almost 100 seasonal aquatic invasive species inspectors that are positioned throughout our park system to inspect watercraft in our lakes to try to keep the spread of those invasive species under control. uh in the top corner that picture of a deer but we do a lot of um we do a lot of science that's one thing a lot of people don't know about tree bers we partner with other agencies a lot of it is University of Minnesota as an example um we are currently working on a multi-year turtle study with them in medicine lake and um we actually take little cameras and attach them to the places and attach them to the turtles. We've been able to trace where they go in life. And the scientists are all excited because they've learned that the turtles go everywhere and up and down, which I guess is important to know that they move up and down the system. Um, and the picture in the bottom right corner, that is our prairie parker. Prohassgers. It's the largest restored praise to It's different than a lot of our other parks. A lot of people call it the horse park. You'll usually find a lot of horses out there and no bikes are allowed in housing and it's almost exclusively dirt trails. So if that's your thing, that's the place to go. You probably know us for recreation. That's really where most people have their entry into any river park. So summer coming up, golf courses open today or open this week. So all our courses are open. Driving In summer we have beaches, swimming beaches, biking, uh paddle, paddling, all the usual um recreation activities you might expect there. And in winter we have what we usually have cross country skiing. This year was a little light. We're lucky that we have two facilities and Grove and Highland Park Reserve in Bloomington where we actually manufacture snow. And we're really thankful for that this year because without that snow, the local high school teams would have had no places to have their races and competitions and practices and just good activities. We also have a downhill ski hill called Mountain Hill High. That's where I learned. [Music] I'll give you some updates on what what big projects we're working on. The biggest project we've been working on for about eight years is the redevelopment of Mississippi Gateway. You may have known that park as uh the Rapids Regional Park, right? That's where Rapids Dam is. And we own Three Rivers. The county side and a number of years ago before I was on the board took a look at it and said this park that's on Mississippi one of the greatest rivers in the world we're really not showcasing that river and the park is really only open in the summer it's not open year we can just do a better job so we embarked on a project to redevelop it and the building you kind of top left that is the gateway center. It will be a visitor center as well as an education center or maybe some of our nature centers will sort of serve that that same purpose. And as you approach the building and look out the back there's a huge deck off the back where you can see the Mississippi River. So we're really trying to showcase that river. And also off that building there is a raised trail I think. raised platforms called the treetops trail and it is the purpose is really to help people experience nature from a different point of view. So in the treetops I'm really looking forward to checking it out myself because it sounded so great. It would be nice to see how it actually turns out. That ribbon cutting will be this summer and I know it's in Brooklyn and I know that's a little bit of a ride from that one's going to be worth checking out when you see the open The other big thing we've been working on is our partnership with um Bloomington. So that started uh we've always had good relationship with Bloomington when we have parks in Bloomington. It really started sort of at the tail end of Bloomington had a golf course that closed during and they they didn't really get it open and trying to figure out how to staff it, how to get that going. expertise and we sat down with them and partnership and we brought on their behalf and then just this last December they actually the land to us so that's our promised things for them but in addition to that you know that that was kind of our first step and that turned out great you know we're the only city that has city parks and the city of Bloomington is park responsible for regional parks from council. You know, it really creates a conflict sometimes with our staff because there's two different skills to run some of these type of things. We have a partnership. So, we actually formed a cooperative agreement just a couple months ago. We will be running the Bloomington regional parks on their behalf. So there are city staff can focus on the Bloomington city parks and it has been confusing down there because the rivers have regional parks there are different shelters for different fees and different rules and all that. So that'll all be smooth. We're really looking forward to people being able to navigate through those beautiful parks. So Corkran has for a long time really um that's in existence that open and you also have I've been here over the past couple years where we worked collaboratively on the Diamond Lake Trail which next trail coming your way when I don't know that's a good question. Trails take sometimes multiple decades to actually trail but we're working very collaboratively with the city and as development happens looking for opportunities for us to acquire either the land or the right and on piece of it together we can then move to actually building the trail. So that that's coming but it's a little while but the other thing we'll be back this year because we did add to our work plan for 2025. I'm not here to announce it yet. We'll do some fanfare when that comes. We're actually going to begin a park search and that is something Rivers has not undertaken in a few decades. So, the staff has spent quite a bit of time looking at other big park districts even outside so we can have some expertise when we come here. We've had on our We do like we do comprehensive plan. We also do a system plan. It's called park system. And we had on that big circle around Corkran and Rogers in the future actually have a park there. So stay tuned. We'll be back later this year to sort of kick off that project. I'm very excited about it. Really cool. Cool. and and you know how to reach me anytime you guys want to sit down with me and Jay or or come to front of council just let me know. Sure there's I'm sure they'll come back again couple of cities so I'm not sure it's going to be usually natural resources and I'll leave it there'llain work on that just make sure people people know that So, uh, moving forward again, we're always looking for partnerships. You heard me talk about Scott County and Hen County and Bloomington. For the past decade or so, we really have done nothing on our own. We really look for partnerships as we move forward on trails and we really look to partner with our cities and we offer our partnership and our expertise to our our cities that we serve. So, I mentioned we have wildlife and plants. So plants, trees, all that. So if your staff comes across challenges and you're really looking for an expert, we're just a phone call away on some of those things. You should look at resources. And with that brings me to the end, but I always come with some fun facts and we have a lot of data that we about your res and how your residents interact with tree and I usually just tell you some information but I I told you I was ask probably I'd say a lot which surprised me too. The number one park that um residents go to is Elm Creek Park. Oh no. Yes. I thought and almost twice as many go to Baker. So I like numbers. So I always find this stuff fascinating. So then I also do the activity and by far head and shoulders the number one is the swim. So that is what is attracting the residents and number one uh by almost half is Baker and Baker the most popular activity is biking um and then golf but it's only 400 visits of golf so there's not a lot of golfers in Portland or at least coming to our our golf course and then the other interesting thing is I thought there was 200 camping visits so we do know that I thought that was a good amount there's at least 200 visits this past summer res this summer. So disappointed that it didn't have the right amp so whatever it is that will be fixed. Um, so Elm Baker and then number three was Lake Rebecca and then Fish Lake and then really well the horses there's not that many left anymore. Thank you very much for listening to me. Thanks for coming out. Thank you. I have comments. Go for it. Thank you, Marge, for coming. Uh, I'm really excited for the Diamond Lake Trail to get developed and I'm excited for the future corridor. I think it's for the Weaver Lake Trail to eventually hopefully come through parts of Corkland. I want to encourage you to site your new park in our fair city. And I would also encourage you to consider something a little bit different than what Three Rivers has done in its other parks. So, I enjoy them all a lot. Um, but I feel like there's a good opportunity to do something a little bit different. A lot of the existing ones are focused on plants, animals, trees, water. I think pork ring gives you an opportunity to look upward in that our our wetlands and our more flat topography create a much bigger sky. And so I think it would be very interesting to combine a a campground with a observatory style campground where maybe you have like a standing stone area that aligns with solstesses and equinoxes. Um you could have constellations aligned with a walking path maybe in a helix down from a hill aligned to different constellations different parts of the year. You could do during the daytime that sky focus could turn to something like drone racing or an model airplane field. So there could be a lot of different complimentary uses that could go with the campground that would give people exposure to lots of different recreational opportunities that don't exist elsewhere in the system. Think so. I'll take that I'll take that. It's a good challenge to open up our minds a little bit. And I would also point out that we're like dead center farthest from all of the existing parks when you look at that map. So that fills a big hole in the system. And Rogers has a regional park. It's true. You could also add along to Jeremy's idea. You could make it a night park so there's no lights. So you have better constellations. We've talked about a dark skies ordinance a few different times. So, we could maybe collaborate on something like that. And maybe like a fire tower uh could be a really cool like a nightscape view of suburban Henipin County from a high elevation and sunrises and sunsets too. Interesting ideas. Very different. My initial go back to our mission and thinking about it. Thank you. I I wanted to say thank you because I do think we enjoy a I I came from Shock where I was the parks and recreation director. So I worked with Three Rivers Scott County a lot and and uh I was really happy to see even though the faces changed the the quality of the relationships are reflected here in terms of the effort at Three Rivers. So working with Kelly Grisman and Jonathan with the planning fantastic people to work with and uh and also we've gotten some some very positive and exciting things. So already with the Diamond Lake Trail that, you know, this summer some of it's going to be constructed in some of our parks. Uh and so I I just wanted to say thank you because I know that's not the case always with those sorts of partnerships even for us as we have other, you know, uh partners. Uh and this is a a great partnership and so I wanted to say thank you for that. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks. See you. And then we will go on to item 4C which is the uh 4M investment strategy and Cy. Good evening council. Appreciate the opportunity to come out again to speak with you. I was out a year ago and we started some conversation and want to follow up from that and talk about talking with staff about um I feel kind of bad I didn't bring any fun fact I did want to share that what we learned is that proposing to say the least in the market um but as J and I talked briefly before the meeting you know the nice thing with public entities in Minnesota um Minnesota statute invest a good thing because it does take a lot of that risk market. So a lot of this noise happening in the market should be focused on public sector. Um just a brief overview I think a lot of you may be familiar with this but just want to reiterate again some interesting information about the fund. Uh we always like to share that is a fund they sponsor a government fund. We were hired by the APMA to administer this program for them back in 2007. So we've been doing that service years. We also were hired as the investment advisor. So we do the fund management of portfolio managed for the fund our advisor office. The focus of the fund always has safety. the highest rating for money programs that we're managing and it continues to grow. We have over 450 participants now in the program throughout the state. Not just cities, we have publicities short and long. Everything we do is statute 18, meaning rules the city has to follow for the investment fund. Since this fund is designed specifically for public funds, we have follow So we look at the different programs that are available in the fund. We've got the 4M plus money market program. Those are the most programs in the form program. Uh they are very liquid dollars and so we have to manage those accordingly and so those are going to be managed with the understanding that cities have to have access to dollars needs. have been performing very well lately market as we came out of the pandemic not a normal market where we saw shortterm rates higher than longterm rates have been a very good place to be for as normal we'll talk about that a little bit we also have a term program which is kind of more intermediate needs it's a fixed rate fixed term so it's structured like a CD in a way but it is a full program you others put into a fixed rate for a certain perm. We have an limited term duration or LTD fund which is another program that's designed for longer and also fix a little bit. So again whether shortterm intermediate long term we have a solution it's really a matter of the city will need a little program. The next page speaks to some of the work we do to help identify where to put these dollars. Um we do a lot of cash flow workies that we serve and we had we just developed this new cash flow program which be tool that participants can go in and review. The idea is we staff in fact will work with city staff to build a projection. And so the idea is to develop this tool that then we can use to really help steer some discussions. We'll work with the city using documents that should be on hand longterm plan that we just received the other day. We look at all this data build this cash flow discussions around analyt What does that look like? Uh the next page again just kind of reiterating what you can invest in. Um statute when we're investing it's US treasuries agencies mal bonds which are as risky as you can get. Um you can invest in commercial paper but we do commercial paper a lot of CD products whe different options there as well. So as we develop the cash flow and look at what types of longer these will be the types. Um so looking at account right now just as a quick update um there's currently in your form account three different um sub accounts if you will. You got the general account which is just general dollars account 8.5 million in that account. There are two sub accounts specifically related to bond proceeds. Any kind of work with bond proceeds segregate those dollars when cities issue bonds are subject to different rules. rules around and so by segregating those you can help us monitoring make sure you're meeting so we got 23.7 I just want speak to this quick. The 2023A bonds, we actually have the expenses and we'll be doing final draws. Uh that has to be completed by the 15th of May. Uh we're we're ready to do that. Uh we've been working on that. I just wanted to that balance is there, but that money's already spent. Really the idea behind our service that we do with the bond management is free service again that the fund offers for one of the couple of the main issues that sometimes have not managing that IRS liability from that time fraility but with the service that we provide if there is a liability We want to make sure the city is so kind of reporting won't be an issue for the city but something like what are the rates on those accounts right now? So go back a couple slides looking at the different investment options. One more those are all in the money marketing kind of 4.25 to 4.3. Okay. Okay. So just a quick update on the markets kind of what um kind of speaking about the Fed. Um as the Fed moves, we will see those money market rates move. Um again with some of this volatility in the last week especially we have seen some of this move a little bit but it's still kind of holding in the same pattern where expectations are for the shortterm rates to continue to come down this year. kind of more of a question on when they might come down right now looking two to three more cuts. So that kind of gives you an idea of what that money market might look like at the end of each year by 25 end of this year as expected. And so this is kind of that shortterm rate. This would imply if this were to happen. Then the next page kind of looks at overall kind of a treasury curve going from short to longterm. Right now this has moved a lot as well. updated as yesterday, but the darkest blue line. You kind of see it high at the short end. There's that little dip and then it starts to slowly go back up. With Fed futures, they're always monitoring what the markets are what might look like in a year. And that dotted line represents what the market think. So again, shortterm rates probably come down. two year rates should remain pretty close to where they are today. Doesn't mean they'll stay like that all year, but a year from now like that. So, as we look at this and kind of look at where dollars are right now, um we think it's a great time to consider looking at that liquidity piece. doesn't make sense to start looking at options a little longer just to take advantage. So the next page wrap it up. So our discussion with staff was around that liquidity piece for money markets as we go through that analysis. What amount makes sense to keep liquid? I know I think some discussion we'll try to that what makes sense there and then as that market normalizes or that continu So that's kind of our discussion and plan as we talk about some of these cash flow building. So with that I will answer questions. Any questions? One of the phrases that we keep talking about as we're talking with Corey is to create a waterfall. Uh that's the phrase that we keep using. So, so, so that we're getting what we need at the right time at the right right place. And that that requires us to be strategic in what we're doing. Uh, and also not to accept too much risk. So, the water's, you know, we got the water when we need it. Uh, but we're but we're we're uh leveraging that to potentially get a higher yield. Uh and um Corey's done a great job of that as I've worked with him in other cities and uh as we talk with Abdo uh who has worked with him with even more cities. Uh this is a great opportunity for us to do that. That also this is already something you know being part of League of Minnesota cities. Uh this isn't at additional cost for us. Uh there there are opportunities that we could work with Corey to potentially increase services but but right now this is within the bundle of services and that's leveraging those capabilities and and as we look at other opportunities, you know, we can explore some of those other services if that's a desire. At the baseline, we aren't taking full advantage of the opportunities that we have before us. Roughly, what additional benefit would you see for us being available? Assuming things are going to go short down% do that kind of ladder that a little bit of those aligning those future investments for a portion of you. Are there any funds not shown here that would make sense to include in this program like this? Yes. So, so we're carrying a pretty large balance at farmers right now. Uh and so that would be an opportunity to look at what are we doing there and do we need to transfer that into 4M um and and part of it has been uh that's how we've been cash flowing a lot of the projects with the water project is the cash out of farmers. That's why we haven't done the draw downs from 4M because we've had the cash on hand in for rather than taking the hand, you know, taking out of one pocket, put in the other pocket. Let's empty the pocket and fill it back up. That's been the the decision. Uh but consequently, we are going to have some funds that it's going to make sense to uh do some longer term considerations. Very good. Any income we get from interest is income we don't need to tax people. So, So, so on the 2023 uh a bond, uh we we did pretty well. Uh and so we don't know exactly what that's going to be, but we have avoided arbitrage by spending it down. So that means that we get to keep the interest rather than have to give it back. Uh and that becomes an opportunity for us to decide what we want to those will be future conversations once we we close out the bond. How do how do we want to handle that interest? Uh and staff definitely has some ideas Anything else? Thank you for coming. Thank you. Thanks, Cy. All righty. And then our last presentation of the day uh from the Elm Creek Wershed. Well, thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council Members. My name is Diane Spectre and I'm representing people. I'm actually an employee of Stanford Consulting Services and we are the contract engineer. Uh we're here I'm here tonight to uh introduce you to the wersheds updated waterershed management plan. This is going to be our fourth plan that's why we call it our fourth generation plan. As part of this introduction, we're going around to each of the seven cities that are members of this joint organization and talking about all the work that the wershed commission and advisory committee has been doing over the past year to start drafting that plan uh in present start presenting to you our thoughts about the activities that we'll be undertaking over the next 10 years. This is the kind of the start of the public input process. So uh what we hope to accomplish today is just introducing you to some of these concepts and how you can learn more and participate more in the process. Uh just a just a very brief overview. I think that most of you are probably familiar with the wershed but it is uh seven cities in northwest county uh is a joint powers organization and uh the all of the the area within the metro area is required to be part of some wershed organization and to manage storm water on the basis of drainage area rather than the basis of water doesn't stop Um basically the kind of the division of labor between what the wershed does and what cities do is the wershed sets policy and standards and kind of overall goals and undertakes a couple of things that it makes sense to do at a a larger scale whereas a lot of the implementation happens actually at the city level. The watershed commission does not undertake capital improvement projects that's specifically reserved for the city. It is governed by a citizens board of commissioners and I know that is always interested in encouraging their residents to participate in that commission volunteer to serve as a commissioner. Uh and then also a technical advisory committee of city staff and Lauren and Kevin. Next slide please. Just a real quick background about how this fits into some of the activities that you undertake. Uh the the wershed plans and wershed management is a separate whole separate thing in the state statutes. But they are it is related to the city's comprehensive plan in that uh after the wershed plan is completed the cities then undertake their own local storm water management plan. Uh cities follow a little bit different storm water management some local plans but they're all accomplishing the same function. How is that city going to implement what's in the water plan and also deal with the issues that are within each individual city that local water then becomes a an appendex to your comprehensive plan and since all the cities in the metro area seem to just finished doing the comprehensive plans but a couple years time doing the comprehensive plan again uh then that becomes part of that comprehensive plan and in your comp plan whe the land use sections or the parks and open space section or anywhere else within that comprehensive plan that might relate to water and land use land cover uh kind of goes back to some of those standards and policies that are outlined in the water. Next slide just uh just a very brief uh review of what the wershed commission does. Uh basically it uh uh these are the five primary activities. The first is reviewing plans for the development and redevelopment uh which is a very important activity in Elm Creek because as you know there's a lot of development going on. In the last 10 years the commission has reviewed 439 projects within this city area for conformance with these development standards that are required uh to limit the increase in water from that new development. undertake monitoring. One of the partnerships with park district is the comm the commission contracts with three rivers to do the monitoring program uh throughout the lakes and streams throughout the wershed. We do have an education and outreach program where uh we actually have uh joined up with three other wershed organizations in this part of the world and uh something called the west metro water alliance or undertake joint education outreach and engagement activities. probably one of the most uh successful one of that is we actually have uh contract teachers on available to go out into classrooms and engage um mainly with fourth graders but also with other grade levels as well as their parents on science nights and things like that. And within the last 10 years we've served 22,000 fourth graders we do have another partnership with Hen County and their their conservation staff to actually go out and engage with the ulture and uh the producers and the animal operators in the waterhed and we'll talk a little bit more about that later and we're also kind of conduit for money. U talking earlier about how how um important it is to partner up between organizations to get grants. The more partners you have the more attractive you are funders. So the water department and other organizations as well has been pretty successful projects. Next slide please. Uh just what's in the water plan. A big chunk of it is just simply an overview of the the conditions within the wershed. just like looking at soils and topography and the current conditions of the water resources within the wershed and the kinds of things that precipitation the kinds of things that might influence what those water resources um can be uh general information about all the different agencies that are that kind of have their fingers in water management within the uh the state of Minnesota. I did once do a program with high school students and somebody asked me, "So, who owns the water?" I said, "That's not a very easy question to answer. There's a lot of different uh depending on what it is that you want to know about that water. There's a lot of different involved, but more importantly, it's an assessment of problems uh current expected problems in the future. Uh and then establishing some policies and goals for managing and addressing those problems and issues. Then the are specific actions that are proposed to take in the coming 10 years. Next, please. So, I'll just kind of jump right into it. I've got two slides uh which talk about some of the identified problems. This is just based on input and review by the wershed commissioners and by the city staff. Um after these two slides, I will pause and I'll ask if you there's anything that's missing here that is important to you that you want to bring to the attention of the water commission. Otherwise, we'll just kind of think about it and submit that information later. The first four of them all have to do with water quality. It's not surprising. Uh there are several lakes and streams in the wershed that don't meet state water quality standards called impaired waters capital I and capital W. Uh right now there are six impaired lakes. are all for excess nutrients and the main streams within the water elder waters and those are typically all for sediment bacteria and the low dissolved oxygen rivers. Um there also some new which have popped up most recently. One of the most concerning is which you will hear a lot about in the coming 10 years implementation creek but more kind of counterintuitively brushed water typically impairments resulting from drainage areas that have lots of streets and highways drainage to the south of Brush doesn't have a lot of what it does have is a lot of agriculture that uses fertilizer and soil amendments that continue. So, one of the things we'll talk about about the activities that we're going to be undertaking in the next 10 years is looking at uh really understanding where that's coming from, the magnitude of the problem and what we can do about it. Just recognizing that there's continues to be erosion channels ditches and that there are agricultural properties that do contribute to that as well. And then on the next slide uh we look at some additional kind of related problems. We have we do have these issues and we have been working on them but we need to increase the pace and the number of opportunities that we have to start reducing those and improving those waters. So what we're looking for is a need to voluntarily adopt BMP or best management practices in the water. It can cover just a wealth of things. It can be storm water, it could be a rain garden, it could be street sweeping, could be education, outreach, just any kind of practice that has uh the opportunity to reduce pollutes or improve water resources. So, how do we get more of those out there on the landscape and kind of related to that is how do we create behavioral change so people decide to undertake those voluntary change the way that they maintain the properties. And then two additional kind of related um issues. One is that there are 439 projects we've used in the past 10 years. Land is continuing to change. It's being converted from agricultural low density, low imperousness to higher impervious, denser development that's creating more runoff land. And how do we deal with that additional runoff and make sure that it's not negatively impacting our lakes and our streams? The ability of those because we're dumping all that ability to actually carry it without flooding down the street. I have a question. Uh Corkran's got a lot of clay y which generates, I would imagine, a fair bit of runoff issues. Uh we talked a little bit at one of our planning sessions about the idea of adopting a top soil requirement as part of new development. Would something like that be helpful? It would. In fact, uh there are several cities that have not only soil amendments but also a requirement that after the final grading is done that and before the s happens that uh developers are required to go in and scarify the soil and loosen it up and then amend it and then place new top soil on top of it and then put the side down so it could improve it. Kevin I got some references for you to we're actually the precipitation uh in the wershed and then actually in the whole US is changing. So kind of a combination of of increased amounts the intensity of the rain is changing uh when we get precipitation is changing. Used to be you know we didn't get much precipitation in the the fall. that would allow some of these uh storage areas to kind of draw down and make room for the snow coming. We're getting a lot of fall raintorms now. So, we've got these changing precipitation patterns that kind of has the potential to exacerbate the impact of all this new surface going up. I'm going to stop right there. There's something that's missing off that list knowing that the wershed does not have any responsibility for drinking water for the deep ground water just to do what we can to make sure that it stays where we were controlling pollutants for for surface waters. We're also controlling ground water. We got water quality issues. We've got a desire and a need to increase the pace of what we're doing to address those water quality issues. We got development that's happening. on it. We can talk more later or if you can um submit comment. Let's move on to the next slide. We have these goals. They're very kind of high level, you know, mom and kind of goals. Protect our water resources. Reduce storm water runoff rates, educate and engage people, deal with this precipitation issue. How are we going to do that? What's the set of actions that we're planning on uh taking to address those achieve those goals? Let's move on to the next slide. Well, first of all, implementation strategies. The first implementation strategy is continue to continue to do what we have been doing, which is undertaking projects where those were helpful and u making room for u persuading uh new projects where we uh were doing studies and things like that to identify new projects uh during the course of this 10 year period. Some of you may remember uh that uh in the past couple of years that the commission has worked with the city and other cities within the area to do what we call assessments like really intensive to identify field doing some more of those targeted areas to say we know we need to do something now let's take a really good hard intense that identify some very specific So we plan on doing some more of that. Um we do have programs that will participate in cost of voluntary projects. One of which is our partnership cost share program. If you're a private property owner, you've got the got an opportunity to undertake an improvement on your property that makes a difference. You don't get enough uses of those funds. And one of the things that we do information to people. If you're a developer and you've got an opportunity on your site, making sure that you're aware that if you volunteer to do something and the same thing with the city has an opportunity to do an improvement particip project improvements in assessments throughout the water. Second part of that is our education and outreach program. So, first of all, just continue our partnerships that we have been doing, reaching out uh and with Henman County, reaching out to producers and animal operators and undertaking some of it, helping them to undertake small practices. The commission's role is to provide potent sites uh with the West Natural Water Alliance for Education Outreach to students and parents. We like the early and making sure that they understand what's going on. One of our classroom educators told a fun story the other day where she went into the classroom last fall, did a presentation lesson to the kids and then this just a couple weeks ago, she went and did a science night at the same school and all the fourth graders came running after saying, "Miss Jay, Miss Jay, I went and I went and my family adopted the storm train in our neighborhood. We're going to be planting a rain garden." And they were so excited about being able to they learned about things and now they're going to do them. They got persuaded to do that. So that's how you change hearts and minds. Uh and then adding more outreach to lake associations to um HOAs is an untapped potential out there that has need for uh associations that could use some guidance and how to um for their turf management and their snow and ice control in ways that are um less impactful to the water resources downstream. So that's that's a that's a target we'll be focusing on is how to help the cities work together with the HOAs within their communities uh and other groups. And then uh one of the big uh activities that we'll be undertaking in the next couple of years is uh earlier this uh last fall uh the Elm Creek wershed partnered up with SH Creek and West Mississippi wershed. in this northwest corner of the county and was able to obtain some grant funds to take a joint management talking earlier about those chloride impairments. We all have impaired impaired waters now going deep into where that where the sources of coming from how much that needs to be reduced. What are some options reducing it and This this idea about the fertilizer and the uh chloride containing soil amendments is one that has not really been closely studied because we've really been focusing on urban sources and on salt. We really haven't looked at the cultural sources. So we're looking forward to partnering up again relying on our our friends at H County Department to help us get a handle on what you know what are some options for those sources are coming from and how can they uh make sure that they're using just the minimum amount that's necessary and not putting out excess amounts of chlorine and then just delivering kind of a common consensus common message that everybody knows that they're all why they're doing this and has have common goals and working question you'll probably hear more about that question you talk about the chloride stuff is that all related the road salt or is there other sources of chloride? mostly grow salt but uh there are other sources waterers contribute salt y um but on the farming side it's like I said people know that there's that fertilizer and soil amendments are a source nobody's really tried to quantify what what that proportion is no I I I'm asking I'm one of our rural residents here and such and and a lot A lot of the farmers have been managing water runoff all their lives and and are doing everything they can to protect and I'm just and but by going through this we may find out that yes it's a source it's not a very big source from the from the farming community type deal that doesn't have a lot of streets it's coming from somewhere oh thank you very much thanks so you'll hear more about that back something during this process have a chat with you about that. Uh but probably the biggest thing and this is we'll kind of start closing out some of the implementation side of this is our climate resilience and sustainability study. We'll probably taking up the bulk of our tenure plan and that's really starting out develop a four phase process to look at this. The first is putting together we call framework just understanding where we're at, gathering information, making sure that we've got u the most the best hydraologic and hydraulic model available to us to start modeling run up from the water. We've got good information about what the expected land use and land cover changes might be over the next 40 50 years. And once we gather that information, we'll start doing the actual climate vulnerability assessment, which is basically running Basically, it's running model scenarios. It says if land use of land cover changes this way, precipitation changes this way. What does that mean for how much water is going to run off the land? how much water the dam's an alternate set of scenar assumptions. What does that mean for the extent of the flood plan? One of the things that we want to identify and use this as an opportunity is to identify future risks and vulnerabilities. Uh when we are designing infrastructure, when we put in developments, we're not doing that for the next 10 years. We're doing it for the next 50 to 100 years. So we need to look further out. We need to look out 50 to 100 years to determine where's the But also where this flood plan is that road over top 50 years you know is this piece of electrical grid infrastructure going to be subject to periodic flooding down the road so that we can start saying okay now that we've identified some potential risks what can we do about the next slide that is you talked about clay soils this is a soils map the color are the soils that are are the most conducive to infiltration. Not a lot of them are the light green and the soils which are second most conducive infiltration. You kind of have to look real hard to find the tan and the darker tan areas are not great. You can see that most of our watered is not particularly conducive to infiltration or what we call it scratching off keeping it from running downream. So what can what can we do? Well, for one thing we can do we can look at maybe there are some strategic light green areas that we can start building in some infiltration uh so that we net out zero increase. So this development might be in this part of the watered but up here we've got some soils which are conducive infiltration. Can we provide more infiltration there just can we build more storage and detention areas in strategic places just hold back water until it makes room or you know are there some spots where maybe all really all you can do is We know that this piece of infrastructure, you know, we should just think about either upgrading it, replacing it or building around it. Or if you got this projection in 50 years, make sure that's noted on your improvement program. That's the whole purpose of going resiliency and sustainability study. It's really looking at what are the potential impacts of that all of this land cover change. It's not intended to negatively impact the ability of developers to develop their land for cities to develop in the way that they want. Just think about what are the what are the un unforeseen and unexpected consequences of doing that and how can we identify as soon as possible how consequences be an interesting study. Finally, the wershed wershed.org website uh we do have a dedicated landing page at management plan. We do have drafts of the planes posted now forum. Uh we're going to be putting out a couple different uh online public opinion surve the next month or so. Uh we encourage you to at your leisure take a scroll through some of these plans. Uh and uh if you've got some questions, jot it down. Uh in next month, uh in May, uh the commission will actually send out the plan to the cities for what's called the informal comment period. So it's just a you really take look at and submit comments that are they're not really off the record but they're not part of the permanent record. You got a question think something that else needs to be addressed or maybe something up the opportunity to do that before we actually get to finalize the plan later on. Following that we'll go through the formal process called the 60day review process. Any comment that we receive uh during that period needs to be recorded. We need to And when we submit the final plan to the Minnesota Board of Water Resources, we have to provide that all comments and questions. This case, we're hoping to have this plan finalized and adopted by the end of year. So, we're closing it. We're moving forward, but we still have plenty of opportunity for then encourage not only yourselves but also your residents and neighbors to review it and submit comments as well. Got a couple of slides just to kind of end things up with how this uh specifically. So we tal I talked earlier about these subwaterershed assessments that we've done over the past several years. Creek headarters. That was the first one we did. The south brush head was the third one we did. The other one was Diamond Creek. Uh right now our our partners at Henipin County based on some of this work that was done these assessments are working with five different land owners to undertake 13 different practices. control basins, manure bunkers, um cover crops, um other types of practices on their agricultural sites. Uh and then we're also working with city parcel just up to the north of city hall on some conservation as well. So that shows that the cost shared uh the commission put in about $275,000 towards those projects,000 property 65,000. So they they put in a 10% contribution through the county and the water commission. Uh and you can see the removal results of you know a good rate of returns to being those are nice numbers for the amount of money that spent in the next slide projects new street sweeper will be adding street sweeper and the commission will be participating in 25% of the cost of that so we've got $100 budgeted for that and I estimated that uh that uh what we call a load reduction the amount of pollutants that would be reduced as part of that is about 60 pounds of total phosphorus per year you see that's about half the amount of those five agricultural projects so that's really good just streeting uh has been demonstrated to be a pretty effective uh practice for improving water quality especially in areas where you just don't have other stuff that you can do so there are other benefits to street sweeping as well. So it's kind of anary benefit but also protects the downream. Uh we do also will be extending that partnership with Hampton County and then uh we do if there are projects that come out of that resiliency study to add that infiltration or storage those are projects that the commission would um contribute% Any questions? So, look for an opinion survey coming out. Be happy to have you participate in that as well. Ask that the cities share that on their websites and their social media [Music] trying to encourage people to give us an idea what's important. Thank you. Thanks for coming out. Thank you very much. Mayor, last thing I just want to recognize again that we have an open commission seat and possibly an alternate as well. So, we're still It's really It's really cool. Keep putting the word out. Yeah. If anyone's interested, please apply. Thanks. All righty. And we will move on to open forum. I believe we have Yes, Terry Layman. Name and address for the record, please. Hi, everyone. Mayor, city council members. My name is Terry. I24. We've been here as of next Monday for four years and we love our lives here. I'm actually speaking of the going Hunter Ridge opening of the road between 116 and our community and I've been out of town for quite some time. Has there been an update on getting this contract honored and this issue put to bed? So, typically we don't do like a back and forth, but I understand what I'm asking is for an update on this. If you could send me information I would appreciate. Sure, we can have someone follow up with you. Thank you so much. Great. Thank you. And then anyone else for open forum. Okay. Then we will move on to consent agenda. Um which consists of 6 A through 6 with the added item. Uh does anyone want to pull anything? Mr. Chair. Yes. Or Mr. Um, yes. Um, 6D, please. 6 D. Okay. Anything else? I would like to pull 6H, please. H. Okay. Anything else? Going once, going twice. Sold. All right. I will uh entertain a motion to approve consent agenda items A through C, E through G, and I through O. I'll make a motion. Have a second. Second. Very good. All those in favor say I. I. I. Okay. Then we'll just go in alphabetical. So, uh, Dean, you pulled D. Just wanted to recognize our our community, our our, uh, staff and stuff does tremendous amount of work. um and the truck uh safety seminar and such. A ton of people donated um dollars, if that's right, Kevin, um to to put that on. Um an unbelievable number of people attended from many, many different cities and such. So, um, thank you public works for putting that together, um, supporting that, doing that and public safety in collaboration with public safety. Yeah, public the public works slafety, everybody in there. Yes. Thank you. Um, Jay for doing that. Um, it it's a huge huge deal and uh, it uh, it means a lot to our community and and surrounding communities of doing that. So, appreciate it very very much you guys. Thank you. Anything else on that one? With that, make a motion to approve 60. Do we have a second? I have a second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Perfect. And then the other item was Jeremy Bold H. Yes. This is the city park remaster. Um, I just want to double check. I had a conversation with staff uh since the packet was published. Do I need to suggest any edits to reflect what we discussed? Okay. So, I I wanted to propose that we consider um there were there was an option for two different silo slide heights and I have a couple of park experts in my house and they were unanimous in opining that it's definitely worth spending 0.02% of the project to get the extra eight feet and go higher. um when you're investing what we are, we may as well um get the maximum value for the overall investment. So I think that small edit uh would be valuable. And then I also suggested that we consider adding a couple of amenities to close some loops within the playground. Uh like a a balance beam area or some kind of a stepping stone area to connect the slide area back to the main structure. So you could have some circuits that people can run. Um maybe adding a hopscotch area just by drawing on the sidewalk between the two bridges could be attractive too. if I could address a couple of those things. Uh so so staff has had an opportunity to talk about one of the things that I I do want to bring up the reason the lower slide was recommended and and I align with you that I prefer the taller slide, but it it does uh impact the there's a fall area and so that that is going to potentially have some engineering impacts because they have to re-evaluate the fall area. That's I I I was corrected in which I was like, well, why wouldn't we go go big or go home, right? Uh and and that was one of the things that they pushed back on. So, I I just wanted to to communicate that that that it was a a safety concern because of the fall area uh um going from 138 to 18 ft. Um and that uh would increase across 20,000 for this slide, but there also might be ancillary costs in terms of having the engineering. Yeah, there will be incillary like significant incillary costs that were not quoted. Um, but from the information we had the what what we were able to gather is it would be significant because of the footings, the additional engineering and we likely would need a larger playground container. So, there's several impacts to the overall design where the 20,000 is just the starting point and we don't we um we don't have a number on the rest of the impacts because But we're also being told to try to meet the overall goals of the project while we're looking at where we can reduce cost. We figured that that was a place where our time probably should look at the 138. Um I do want to say that I think one of the goals for the slide height was specifically to be higher than the slide at French Park and it is. So French Park's 12 and a half and this one would be 13 13t 8 in. So, I do think we're still meeting that overall desire to have a taller slide and have it be a little bit more significant than what's at French Park. Um, but also trying to hit the cost point as well. So, I I wanted to bring it because I was remiss when we spoke. I was like, heck yeah, why won't we go as big as you can go? And and then because I was thinking it was only $20,000 and then having to increase the size of the container in order to to increase the size of the impact zone because comes down, you have to make sure that if they fall, they're going to fall into a safe area. That that's a potential implication that could have significant well or will have significant cost. Um that that wasn't within the $20,000. Okay. I didn't appreciate that. Yeah. Uh so I didn't either when I when I talked to you, I was like, heck yeah, go big or go go home. Uh and and then uh the the other one some of some of the suggestions for example the hot hopscotch uh for our ADA accessibility we have to be mindful of where we put those potential barriers as people you know potentially someone in a wheelchair trying to go through there. Uh we can include a hopscotch area in another area but in the suggested areas it it creates a potential conflict in terms of flow. Um, and so staff was talking about that like, okay, that's a good idea. Where is the best place to implement that idea of hopscotch to add it? Uh, so that we don't create a different kind of problem. Okay. Um, any other comments? Yeah. Um, that Thank you, J. That was mostly what I said. The only other thing I'd add is, um, I understand the desire to close the circuit, but I think the area that you're talking about, the reason why there isn't anything in those areas is because of the fall zones from the other equipment. So we really tightened up the fall zones for everything as much as possible to reduce cost and reduce the container. So some of the to close the loop I think as clean as you'd like it. We're going to create conflicts with the fall zones from the equipment. Okay. Um so I think um the most practical idea if you would like us to look into it would be a painted hopscotch just a different location. Okay. I'll take what I can get. Okay. Can I add one thing? Yeah. Um because this playground is going to be like the playground for the next probably 30 years. I think that it's worth looking at seeing what the cost would be to have a higher slide because it was specifically talked about at a parks and trails meeting that they preferred the higher slide when we we had a discussion about it. So the parks and trail did recommend approval of the slide at 13 most recently. Okay. Um, and then the problem with that is we'll have to redo the site work design with the bigger container which is going to delay the site fit. So, it's there's several subsequent steps that is going to significantly delay the project to the point where we're already running up against potentially not being able to go this year if we don't get the bids out on the on the timeline that we're currently on. So la last conversation about the bids was right now uh if we get bids out construction timeline would be end of September early October which we're just on the front end of of winter conditions and then when you when you're doing construction under winter conditions that significantly increases the cost of construction uh and or we delay until next year and then federal funding is dependent on going this year. So we would lose 500,000 in federal funding if we don't start something. Is that the grant that we just applied for? No, that one already in 2022. Okay. And and we have 20 Well, we only have so much time to to execute. It was a 2023 grant. I misspoke. We have 24 months to execute the grant uh or we lose the funding. Okay. I think it's worth bringing up because we just talked about this in our work session about making sure that we bring it back and and say we're We want to make sure you're satisfied. We we want to make sure that everyone's proud of this project. Um and but I I do want to stress that 13 feet 8 in is going to be taller than some of our regional slides of regional parks. So I do think it's still a very tall slide, right? And and also the the feedback's helpful. Just we want to make sure that you understand what the cost is. So we could go back and reook the slide, but we wouldn't be able to deliver the project before the end of the year and we would potentially lose would it take us that long to to reestimate that one portion? It seems like delaying the project by that much effects. So so it would you know so it's not as simple as what do you think Natalie? It's it's this needs to look which then hits this it's like if you give a mouse a cookie it impacts so many variables you know. So like uh the impact zone, who would think that if you put a balance beam there, you can't have it there because if a kid falls off the slide, they could break their neck on the on the balance beam. Uh who would think that okay, we are increasing it all roughly four feet. Increase the slide by four feet. Well, now you've exceeded the capacity of the container that you've committed to. Yeah. So now you have to buy a different container which means you need to re-engineer the whole site because we've we've designed and engineered a site like this and now if you go outside of that now what our boundaries were uh for impact and wershed and what like all of it it's did council approve the height at 13 and 1/2 ft with the design. So the the the I believe that's what was shown I can't quite remember what was shown on the previous one. I know that we wanted to look into it and as we looked into it that was again we were also trying to offset it with the direction that we wanted to hit our project goals while minimizing costs where it was feasible and this seemed like a a cost that it didn't really seem feasible once we started to add everything up. Um, and so we uh brought that to parks and trails and their recommendation was the 13 feet 8. So council has a big slide. Yeah, it is. I I'm just saying I had a 22footer in my elementary school and I fell off it twice. I don't want that to happen. So I just That was a nice shiny smooth when you slid down. I just It's an awful lot of money I think. So, it's going to be there for the next 30 years, though. I just want us to make sure that we're thinking about this and not just making a decision based off of we need to get this done now because we aren't going to have this and it will get more expensive if we push it another year. It's already disagree with that. It's already getting um I I I' I'd love a tall slide. Go big or go home, too. But there's been a lot of work put into it so far. And yeah, I did two or three feet on a slide. Kid ain't going to know the difference. I do. I'm definitely afraid of heights now, but that's a whole another conversation. My kids would know the difference, too. So, I just want to make sure we're making the right decision as all and thinking it thoroughly through. Fair enough. Um to your other items. I feel like we can look into like the hopscotch and all that stuff without necessarily making that part of Well, I'm kind of hoping to maybe that's just something that we can add. buy some paint and then paint on the sidewalk, right? 18 bucks and we're done. Yeah. Well, that might but I think that we can know that that's a desire and we can look into what makes sense for that. Okay. Was there anything else to add to the slide discussion? Okay. Thank you. Someone want to make a motion? I will move to approve. All those in favor say I. I. Opposed. oppose two. Okay, thank you very much. And then that completes consent and we are on to we don't have any planning business. Um, sorry, learning the granicus thing here. Unfinished business. Uh, 8A, which is a feedback for draft ordinance, uh, 2025 545 regulating pedler, peddlers, solicitors, and transient merchants. Uh, so it's going to be qu it's going to take me a minute because uh, we don't have it dropped into the folder. Uh, so I'm having to go to Granicus. Hot live Granicus. So, uh, just a a moment. No, no, no. It's this is good. We're Yeah, we're we're adjusting our process. And so, um, all the other things like the presentations aren't loaded into Granus. And so, this is a helpful thing. I need to download the, uh, download it beforehand. So, just a second. Yeah, there it show it. unanticipated consequences. Um, so it is page 673 in your packet. I'm trying to make this present for everybody. Sorry. Thanks for your patience. Dan, go ahead. Can you bring it up from there? Well, we maybe we can start. Does council have any areas in it of questions or concerns or feedback? I do. In the comments section, I see a reference to JT. Is that the city attorney? It is. Okay. Why Why are we disclosing privileged comments from the attorney on on a draft document. Uh that was unintentional. The comment shouldn't have shown. So, thank you for bringing that up. Again, this is we're using Granicus for the first time. So, how it dumps into there. I I appreciate that. I didn't that was uh as we're learning how to leverage the system. So, While we're waiting, I had a question on the signage uh example. So the the current signage that's suggested reads peddlers and solicitors prohibited. We don't list out door-to-door advocates, which I think was one of the other categories listed in the ordinance. Is it possible that we can just have someone with a sign that says no solicitors? Is that adequate to allow enforcement of the ordinance or does it need to include multiple different categories of people? I'll submit that uh to our attorney. Yeah. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Um as far as the the signage, I think you can reference um the signage in the code if you want to go with a no solicitors version and just say any placard that says no solicitors shall mean and then explain what you needed to exclude uh in reference to code. I think in general um it's it's pretty typical for no solicitors is to be kind of the the typical type of sign that you would see. Um, and that usually will tell even if they haven't looked at our code, they'll know generally what that means. But what we can do is we can reference whatever the signage verbage is inside the code to capture whichever ones you want to capture. Okay. Thank you. That seems like it would be a good edit. I appreciate that suggestion, Jane. you were bringing that up. Do you have the original document without That's that's what I'm I'm trying to bring up as well. So, um so for for understanding and Nicia was was handling this and I was supposed to get a hold of this before we went into the work session. Delicia is not able to be here and so I didn't have a chance to download it uh between the time that I found out she wasn't going to be here in the work session. And so that's part of the delay is just life happens. So, I thank you for your patience. Uh, and um trying to get there because I know I'm specifically where the happen. So, Mr. Mayor, can I make a suggestion? Yeah. Can we please take a brief recess? maybe take a bathroom break and that will give me an opportunity to find it without wasting your time. Sounds good. Let's see here. Should we reconvene and we at 8:40? I don't know. Right. Let's go for it. Recording starting back up. Okay. Call the meeting back to order. Recording in progress. Lift off. Bring it up on 8A. So, uh, thanks for your patience, Mayor Council. Uh before you is the ordinance uh regulating peddler, solicitors, transit merchants, and door-to-door advocates. Uh staff, this is this has come uh before council several times over the last couple years. Uh the base document comes from a recommendation from League of Minnesota Cities. Uh this last came to you last August. Uh during August, we received some feedback. We've incorporated the feedback that you provided at that time. Uh and it has had legal review. So, uh, we haven't brought it to you since August because through the winter season, we aren't usually concerned about peddlers, solicitors, transient merchants, and door-to-d dooror advocates. Uh, and as we're on the cusp of this season when this becomes a problem for the community and our residents again, we're bringing it to you uh for consideration of adoption. Um and uh we've massaged the language and the intent uh quite a few times over the last I think four years. Uh and we haven't adopted an ordinance yet. Gotcha. Any questions for Thank you for bringing it back. So, is there anything in particular? Uh, having, you know, we sent you the latest versions of it. Uh, and, uh, we believe that it reflects what what council expressed as their desire. Uh, there's been a few slight modifications, but for the most part, uh, this is constructed the way that council directed staff to constructed. I I personally was pleased to see it. Uh, I think it checks most of the boxes. My biggest concern was having something that would actually be enforceable and it it appears like it would be. I my only residual concern was can we make it practical for people to exclude themselves from solicitation. So, I think with the suggestion of the city attorney just prior to the break, maybe an edit to allow no solicitation signs to include all of the categories within the ordinance uh would make it easy for residents to make use of this new tool. Um, can you point me to which part of the ordinance that was in? Uh, just the last part for the placard. Okay. So, uh direction would be update the placard. Um, it's not included in the ordinance that was added afterwards. So, to update the placard to include all categories right now, no. Um, my my concern was I didn't want the placard to be like because there's so many awards in it, it's got to be this huge ugly thing. So what I believe John indicated is we could put into the ordinance text that if someone posts a no solicitor sign it shall be interpreted to include door door to door advocates peddlers transient merchants whatever the categories. Yeah sure u if I may yeah so just well stated council member Nichols I think so we're looking Jay at 120.13 exclusion by placard we would just add some langage that saidum you know conspicuously placed no soliciting sign. You can put it in quotes. Um will indicate the residents uh preference to have you know have none of these. The question for the council would be do you intend that to to include the doortodoor advocates as defined here in so you have your pedlers your solicitors and your transit mer solicitors being broken down to kind of two subcategories right commercial non-commercial. The non-commercial is sort of what we're calling advocate in this draft. Um, so this would be, you know, religious organizations, political organizations, for example. Um, when you each do your door knocking when you campaign, um, arguably this that would say that that you're you're has to be prohibited from doing that because they don't want anybody knocking on the door. So, do you want it to be nobody knocks on the door or nobody knocks on the door selling something? We could have a I would like it to be as simple as possible. Personally, uh I think my neighbors would feel the same way. So, I'm trying not to bring my own door-nocking biases to the discussion. Um I can't imagine someone putting up a no solicitor sign and then also wanting a advocates welcome sign. No, but I I think the way you could do it is you would simply leave doortodoor advocates out of the definition. So you say no solicitor signs means no we don't want to see any peddlers um or well we how as we define it solicitors or trans merchants you know at at my house but you leave off door to door advocates meaning that if someone comes purely with a political religious etc. Maybe my suggestion would be to leave that exemption like you just stated and then we if it becomes a problem in the community, we could always amend it to include that. Okay. Can I have a followup question on that? I I thought that some of those categories were protected by uh federal and state statutes andor the constitution. they are um but it's generally um accepted on a private property rights basis that private property rights can trump a lot of it. So there are concerns and this is some of what we what we talked and I talked about um is you want the the that decision point to come from the resident when if at all possible because it's much it's the strongest coming from them. They can say I don't want you on my property whereas we we're telling a third party don't go on their Maybe I want them to come on my Why are you telling me tell me that? So I that's why um my my what I've encouraged staff on this one to do is to not um attempt to license solicitors um commercial or otherwise. Leave them off. Take your licensing authority, apply it to peers and transit merchants and then have um solicitors. You can register them if you choose. Um, but I would I think the best way to control it is to use the placard system and then just have the placards apply to federal trans. So, anybody that doesn't want someone knock on the door selling something, we'll just we'll post and I'm sorry to throw some monkey wrench into the system. I've got four years. I've got FFA kids coming down my driveway buying or wanting me to buy stuff and I do. I've got schools coming selling their discount cards to my door. Where do they fall into this? They fall under doortodoor advocate exemption. They would be exempt. Currently, the way that the ordinance is written, uh, Girl Scouts, uh, Boy Scouts selling popcorn or Christmas trees, uh, school organizations, sports associations. Cool. I I wanted to make sure that wasn't ending. I'm I'm going to respectfully disagree on that one. I think the way that this draft is written, I think it's tied to whether or not it's a commercial activity. If the Boy Scouts are coming to your door to tell you about their organization, no problem. No, nobody's coming. If they're coming to sell you candy bars or wreaths or things like that, commercial activity, they fit the solicitor definition and I don't think we license those. But anybody that has a placard, so if you have a placard in your front window that says no soliciting, they don't come to your door. If you do, they they can as a solicitor. I'm you want to order any candy bars. The difference, the key difference there really being do they have the candy bars with them or do you get them later? Because if they have them with them, they're a peddler and they're out. They have to be licensed. Yeah. The only thing is the donations to FHA and 4 in well and and that that would probably apply under the exemption for if it's purely just I'm I'm telling you about my organization and there there sometimes some bleed over to a commercial activity but it's really fundraising that's going to generally be we're intending at least that that's going to be carved out of this but where you see how it gets pretty that's why I'm asking the the same organization, you know, public organization or or charitable organization comes forward, but is now selling you something to promote that organization, it's now a commercial activity, probably qualifies, but the residents that don't want that would post and the ones that do not. Got it. Okay. Thank you. Had to ask. Yeah. Question. Girl Scouts with cookies. Same understanding. No dealers. If they've got the cookies with them, they would be a pedal. They could get never wait forever. They could get a license, you know. Well, right. And so which which makes them a solicitor, but under this scenario, they don't they don't have to be registered or even or licensed or even registered. Right. But um they just have to stay away from the homes that have no solicit. Signs would be the Anything else on this? I think that's our feedback. So, a question that staff would have because of the timing of this, would you consider us adopting this recommending the amendments as as made in 120.13? Because of the timeliness of the need. Uh this this allows us to get information uh and then also potentially start enforcement. Otherwise, we can't adopt it until the the heavy window is going to happen in the next as soon as the weather changes. Uh so you're saying what? Adopt the ordinance with the friendly amendment to adjust 120. Can we without a doesn't need a public hearing? Uh no, this wouldn't be part of your your zoning. So it doesn't you can approve it as as J mentioned with the directives to make those changes in public. I will make that motion. Is there a second? Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. Thank you. Thank you. And with that done with her big item uh staff reports. Anything? Uh the only thing that we are going to talk about is the I legislate. Um uh so that information was sent out. Uh if you want to work with Deb in order to get those apps updated, I I recognize that some of those emails may have expired and you may need some help to get those updated, but my understanding is that that will improve the quality of your experience with Franicus uh if you're using I legislate. Um one of the things I forgot to ask beforehand, uh Mr. things is uh so there was a question about the notes that you take if you're using I legislate and um if if you're using this platform uh to review the packet and then also taking notes uh what is the status of those notes are they private notes or do they become public notes because we're using the platform I guess I'd have to get a little uh familiar with the the information on the platform maybe you can share that offline. I I just want to be upfront. I I was asked that question and I didn't know the answer and I don't want to be presumptive. I would say assume that's public for now as if you're using it. Always better to presume that way. Here otherwise. Yeah. Delete. John and Jay are big dummies. Are the notes we take in our existing system public? is the other question. So like if I'm jotting things down in a PDF file, it it really comes down to whether what the medium you're using is determined to be a record of the city. Um so potentially yes. Um if it's if it's a city system that you're using to conduct city business, then theoretically the you take about that city business can also become public. What if I'm downloading the PDF from the city website and putting it in my own app on my own iPad? Um the the ownership of the device won't prevent it from becoming a city record potentially. Um and and actually I think probably when you all at one point or another received your initial training you know probably the admonishment of don't use your your personal cell phone personal computer to do city business when you can because it can subject it to public record uh basis. So if the same thing would apply on it um generally it almost never comes up but you know really want it specifically. So whenever whenever possible you want to compartmentalize um use the um the city equipment the city materials if you're taking notes that for your benefit and aren't really part of just helping them remember something and throw them away after there's no attention to it or anything that's fine. Um but if there is some sort of a program you're using where they are preserved with the document on the the pad that you have been given by the city potentially they are recoverable. Thank you. Anything else? Okay. Council reports. Uh I was just going to mention but it's come up a few times. This is our first Granicus meeting uh and potentially our last Zoom meeting. I think we ran them both this time. So, that's exciting and we'll figure out more of the Granicus features as we go, but been exploring it a little bit and there's some cool stuff in there. Um, housing bill update. Uh, looks like I still need to make some calls and and look into a few things, but I believe a lot of the provisions in those bills we we've been talking about were adopted into a bill yesterday, an omnivous bill that was approved out of committee in the House. However, they were approved with a tweak that made them uh more of a if your city has zoning ordinances that comply with those desired goals of those bills, no parking, no aesthetic mandates, no whatever, then you could score higher on certain uh grants from the state for for house uh housing. Made it incentive based rather than required. That's my understanding so far. I love that. Um, yeah, they don't seem to love it at the committee that it's it's kind of split, but I think that was the only way it was getting through. Um, my next question is going to be um what grants does that apply to? If it's just like uh housing affordability type grant money from the state, that's one thing. if it's all state funding. I don't think it could be that because I feel like that would have to go to pretty much every committee to have jurisdiction on that. Um, but it'd be something to look into. So, I'll keep you guys posted on that. Um, and other than that, uh, I was recently appointed to the, uh, that council's land use advisory committee uh, on the 9th. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. So hopefully that'll bring some value as we're going in 2050 plan and be able to provide any inside knowledge as to what working there and hopefully provide them some feedback from Corpin's perspective as all that work's going on. So that's about it for me any I have I have one other point Mr. Uh, April 16th, our spring load restrictions will be lifted. Perfect. Very good. So, it was just announced this afternoon that that's the date. April 16th. Sounds good. Oh, and one other thing, Jay, I mentioned this to you beforehand. um for cleanup day. I did find out from uh I had dinner with Mayor's group and uh county commissioner Anderson was there and he mentioned that mosquito control has a thing where if you invite them out to your cleanup day, they will take tires for free if you have junk tires around. Um so we can give them a call and see if they can make it to ours. Yeah, free is a good deal. And apparently apparently It's pretty high. It'll take like a lot of tires before they stop taking them from you. So, it's like a high limit. More tires than you should probably have just later. So, and right now, wasn't there a charge for tires? That would be a neat thing to pass on to our residents. Yeah. Apparently, they do it every year to any city that asks. What's that? I said I don't have a publishing newsletter. But if we can get that set up and it is the case that they can make it, maybe we should get it on social media or the website or something just to let people know. So they do bring Yeah, we'll find out if they take it year round when we go through tires. Yeah. Uh I guess yeah, he didn't say, but I know for sure they do on cleanup days. So keep them out of the ditches. Yeah. Yeah. Tires five bucks under 15. 10 under larger than 15. Yep. So freeze them. Freeze a good freeze. be cool if they come. Y just got to make sure if we if they show up then we usually get a trailer if you've been out there. We usually get I've always been out there. Yep. I plan on being there again. So it's a blast. It's a great way to meet. I should be able to make local for the first time. Wear your gloves and wet suit because it will rain. Always has. Just saying. The third time you said that too. I'm really excited to see if it actually does come true that it rans if it does until All righty. Well, with that, anything else? I had a question on the agenda for April 24th. Go for it. in light of our work session requesting for more information in advance. The uh quick trip proposal, I would like that report to include any information that we have available to us on the implications of increasing use of electric vehicles, increasing use of hybrid vehicles, the potential for people to have self-driving cars, no longer owning vehicles. What does that do for the gas stations in town? because we're looking to add one to a pretty prominent corner. Uh in terms of our economic base, we have a lot of autocentric businesses already uh in an industry that's experiencing a lot of change. I just want to have as much certainty as I can as to what the future may hold if things change significantly. Question, where does one find that? Like how would how would staff if you guys think you can do that? That just seems like Natalie's not here. I'm not sure. again I where where we get that projection data uh I I I don't I don't know we I I can ask the question but at at first blush because of the point that that you just made that it's rapidly changing I mean we're watching Tesla's being burned right now so so there's there's a shifting of this of the sentiment uh that that could result in a change in certain policies and so uh I'm not sure that um we have enough information to be sure that the direction that we were moving is going to be the direction that we continue moving at the pace that we were moving. How about if there's anything that you're able to find? That's Yeah, I I'll ask the question. Um would you help me out with this one? Could you email me to make sure that I don't miss some of those details that you had and that way I can make sure that I convey your question accurately. I can do that. All right. And unless there's anything else, I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. So move second Nichols. All those in favor say I. I. or J.