I'll call to order the June 17th Cork and Parks and Trails Commission. Uh, roll call. Zberger here, Anderson here, Schmidt here, Walsh here, Naval here, Staylor here. Thank you. Then I'll invite everyone to do the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, so we have the agenda approval. Are there any comments or updates to the agenda that we would like to make? I would note the date is listed as June 19th, but we are here on June 17th. So I guess we have both the additional agenda as well as ours that maybe should get updated to the 17th. Yes, that was the first in both times were on me. I even reprinted it for you here tonight and still got the wrong date. So I'm sorry about that. Um also does it? Yeah. Well, yeah, cuz so what? All right. Stellar. It's wrong in a lot of places. Um, so with that, I'd also like to note uh we did add 7A from a staff level if you were all okay with that. Then that'd be my only amendment. Okay. Motion to approve the agenda as modified. Sure. Yes, I move it. Second. Second. Thank you. All in favor? I. All opposed. All right. Approved. So, on to meeting minutes. Are there any comments or updates to the May 15th meeting minutes? Okay. Looking for a motion to approve the meeting minutes. So, moved. A second. All right. Thank you. All in favor? I opposed. I wasn't here. All right. Good. You were missed. Approved as. So then we have moving on to the open open forum. Opportunity for public comment. We have one person in the audience. Isn't tonight? Okay. Just chill. Just chill. Okay. Sounds good. We'll move on to presentations. No presentations today. And then we move on to item seven, unfinished business. 7A, City Park playground. All right. So, this was added to your packet this afternoon. We found out last week uh from the playground vendor that in order to have the playground installed in 2025, we need to make a decision on the playground. We're running into a bit of a hangup with our DNR outdoor recreation grant that was submitted. Uh the deadline to hear back from the DNR for that is June 30th, which is thankfully at the end of June. Um so they line up, but it does kind of light a little bit of a fire under us to make sure that we're getting your guys' feedback and incorporating that as we're moving forward. Um, additionally, we're planning to go to council on Monday with whatever thoughts you have and including that in the packet. So, tonight is the night and I apologize for the rush, but I'm hoping that we can have a really thoughtful discussion. Um, so with the grant, it may require an installation timeline shift depending on what the requirements are. Um, it it sounds like it's kind of similar to our federal funds with some of the extra bits that you have to do. Um, but we also already did those bits for the federal funding and it sounds like they could kind of transfer over for some of the items. So like the archaeological review or things of that nature that are a little more expensive can hopefully be taken and just reapplied considering it's the same project. Um, if we don't get the grant, the request would then be to just proceed with the design and move forward. uh with the grant. The reason for the timeline shift, like I said, is those added pieces. But if we can get it in this year, we would like to. If it doesn't make sense to install it because it's going in in like late October, then maybe that's a discussion where we go, is it more worth it to wait for install in 26? What do the prices look like? There are a lot of further discussions, but at least if we can get through, what do you want the playground to look like? Are there pieces that you don't like? are there pieces that you do really like? Um then we can address those hurdles and bridges as we get there. So is the assumption we will do the same playground design with or without the grant. It's just a timing impact. Correct. It would help with the external funding and then we can keep some of that park dedication for other projects, other areas. Future pickle ball court. Huh? Future pickle ball courts. Pickle. Uh we did hear from council that they do have a very vested interest in the pickle ball. Sure. Good. Good. And splash pet too a little more expensive. So yes. Good. So uh as discussed so the out the outdoor rec grant if it's not awarded uh we would move forward with purchasing equipment installation surfacing uh and it would not exceed 850,000. Now, if we did receive the grant, um then like I said, further discussions would occur about timelines for those. Uh the play world quote includes a the 5 to 12y old container and the 2 to 5year-old container. The 5 to12 has the barn and silo attached as one cohesive big unit. uh the 14 foot twisty slide, the post stoppers on the bridges with leak and corn shown, two hillside embankment slides, and then there was supposed to be a three-point traverse double climber under the bridge. Uh we're working with the playground vendor on that because they they show a different kind of netting underneath, which still cool. And if that's what you would prefer, we can talk about that. But um I'd also like to show the other al alternative option that we were looking at in the 2 to 5-year-old container. We've got two of those spring loader spring loaders, a horse and a cow. They're very cute, very farm themed. Um we also have some GFRC, which is an acronym for basically concrete uh hay bales in the Tutified area. They're just like steps that look more themed to the area. And we can get into that a little bit more. We did remove the zipline as discussed both by I think parks and trails and the council just kind of a maintenance nightmare. You guys haven't seen a lot of kids. It doesn't get a lot of use at one time. It's usually just one person going on it and it doesn't serve a huge group. Um so this would include equipment installation and the engineered wood fiber surface at porting place. Uh and like I said not anticipated to exceed it 850,000. the quote that we received today. Um, for reference, that's why it had to all get turned up this afternoon because you're still waiting to get some of the information. So, the quote we received today, we're looking at about 799,000. So, just shy of 800,000. That gives a little bit of wiggle room, but also allows for future project money. Because we guessed that 850 was saw that 850, right? Uh, I think we were looking at trying to It depends on who we is the greater we. I get the two meetings confused between parks and trails and count or commission. It was in the 800s for sure. If you're talking about the playground overall, it was ranging from like 757 to 850 if you recall cuz we had with the zipline I think was a version with the zipline reduced swings. Yeah, there were a few different options with it. Um, so these are the site plans. These are not as fun, but they do provide a little bit of an overview of what the container looks like for the 5 to 12 as well as the 2 to 4. Like I said, it's not pretty. This is where we get into the pretty pictures, right? So, we've got six belt swings, an ADA swing, and a top swing. We have quite a few slides. Um, if you notice, so this is that tall slide that we have. There is also one on the other side as well. So, there's two of them. Uh, this is with, like I said, the barn and the silo connected, uh, which was a cost savings as well. We've got the tower slide at 13.75 ft approximately, still higher than French. Uh we've got a better view of some of those corn toppers and the wheat toppers. You can see them right in here. Um and then down here is the little net net hangout area which we will have a better visual of that here in a little bit. Uh we still have both of the bridges with the looping design. Um these are those concrete hay bales that I'm talking about. So they are shown both in the 2 to5 or actually they were going to be shown in the 2 to 5 but we could not sub out these yellow blocks that are in front of the tractor for these. So instead these are shown in the 5 to 12. So okay so they're not in the little the 2 to five. They're not in the 2 to five but this is shown in the 5 to 12. This is one of like the steps to get into the place. I think we had concerns in the younger area with concrete. Yeah with the concrete. Uh two embankment slides. So, this one has Where's my mouse? This green one has kind of those bumpy ridges. The request was textured. Uh, it was really roller slide, but we said, "Oo, that's going to be a maintenance nightmare with the wood chips in the rolls." So, these are the two embankment slides. Um, this is them kind of from above what they would look like and how you would kind of enter them in between. Can you go Sorry, you can go back. Go back. One more. One more. So between them is just more of the port and place. Yeah. Um so then in the two to five area, we've got that tractor. We've got the quote unquote hay bales, if you will. Um this unity swing, the spring load riders. Um and then a couple more embankment slides. These are kind of the the yellow blocks I was talking about where we were trying to replace it with the hay bales, but they just don't work. So, that is what it is. Um, and then within the tot area, we've got this walkth through. They can hang out in these tires on both sides. There's a driving feature. Um, they can climb on these. And as we discussed um the two to five area while technically for two to five is usually seen more with the one to three category and they grow out of it very quickly. So that was one of the topics of discussion from um with the tractor. Like I said we were going to try and add these. Unfortunately I got news this afternoon after the slide was already put in here that we can't. So they are being added instead to the two to five area. Um, and then the hay bale cube climb climbers were one of the other additions. Getting into some of the nittygritty though. Um, you've seen a similar slide before with a lot of these bubbles on the right side. These are some of the panels, the graphics, the interactive pieces that are incorporated within the playground itself. And these are some more. And then in the 2 to 5year-old area, same idea, but these are some of the additional features. So the unity stepppers, a climber, they're a little more toned down, a little safer probably. So uh we went through what the quote includes. At this point, staff is requesting that the commission review the current design, provide any feedback related to layout, features, equipment preferences. If there's things that you guys go, no one's going to play with this. Okay, let's look at alternative options. And if it's panels, I did pull up some panels because I know the request was to bring the book. I don't have the book. It's all online now. So, we can try and look at a few if that's the option. Otherwise, if the panels that are presented are the ones that you guys like, we can run with that. Um, and I can absolutely go back and we can go back to some of those panels because I don't think I included it in there. That was what when I say I was preparing the slideshow pretty much until 5:00. Sorry. Um, it can look live. We can look live. That's uh otherwise a recommendation to council proceeding with the playground with any alterations that you guys would like to see made. This is going to be one of those recommendation ones. So, um I can go back though if you guys want to dig through some of these a little bit more. Would that be helpful? Or was there anything that stood out to folks? Things that you like, things that you don't like. Let's start with the layout. I think if there's any comments on I know we had adjusted to the this combination with the bridges in between. I think just agreeing that that's layout's going to be a little hard to shift too much. I mean if there's big adjustments because then we have to shift the container and then that will require sidework alterations more than likely. So probably push it out kind of. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, then we're I mean, if there's anything really serious I mean, you know, it fills the space well and it looks appealing from all angles. I I think it's well thought out layout. So, and you said there's quite a few slides, but even Wildflower has three on the big and that's quite a bit smaller than this. So, seems reasonable with how many Kids hopefully are playing on this at the same time. Yeah, cuz what do we got here? We got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I'm counting eight minimum in just the 5 to 12 and then I guess one in office, but there are smaller ones within the bigger area as well if kids do want to It's nice because this almost provides a phased approach for like growth. They can go two to five and then they can go into more of the uh barn side of things and that would be a little smaller and then they even grow into like the silo. Mhm. Like they're growing in our little farm playground. The only thing I noticed, and maybe it's just missing, there's not a lot of seating for like adult. I know we're putting benches around this, but even in their shot, they had a guy just sitting at the top of the hill. So potentially seeing if I would want to make sure there's enough seating around this with our bench plant. If there's if we are Yeah, there was one thing that to me looks like should make sure we're considering is seating. And the playground vendors might not necessarily show what we have planned, but that's a good point and I can check with Kathy. But even that spot that they had the guy sitting looks like a good spot cuz we're going to want to sit there. Does it make sense to put something intentional there? Cuz at one point we had like um stones. Yeah. that you can sit on. It be a natural thing to sit on, but we don't really have that anymore. Could you plop a hay bale there? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Or just a few of them just for just kind of sporadically. I will say benches might be cheaper. Expensive. Yeah, the hay bells are about n grand. I I think there is benches on the right on the other side of the trail like under the trees. But well, I'll I'll definitely bring that up just like this. Seating in general, making sure that we're accommodating parents. Mhm. Seating and shading are top priorities post wildflower installation. Mhm. Did you say there was a better picture that showed that netting thing in between those two bridges? Yes. Oh. Oh, towards the end. Okay. Okay. I think that's not the right But that's not It's not the right feature. Give me one second. Oh, okay. It's just that it is I can show you the one that we were looking at. In the back, but uh that was a request from specific donors. Correct. Yeah. And I was more just wondering now I can see it in this image. And I thought it might go it was like a netting up to the edge of the where those that was more so bars are butision I can see now it's like yeah that people climb down to it from the that was the vision and I don't know where it got lost in translation. So we're working through that. We just haven't had a response yet. I'm trying to My internet's going real slow. Pull up. Yeah, I can see that from here though. like just a net climber or something. Yeah. I thought it kind of would go up to the edge of this so that and it would be like a whole thing to climb. Yeah. Versus just sit. Yeah. Those are always a fan favorite. The big pyramid rope net things. Yeah, there's one maple girl couple. My internet is telling me it's broken. So, give me just a second. I think Yeah, I mean I think we're good. I think it's good to look at this one. I'm a little worried that people would like try to jump into it if it's something like this. Like from either that edge or the angle it's at, you're kind of But is there a place to jump from? Yeah, the railing. There's a lot of I say I did go to French Park the other day and I saw kids climbing on the top of the structure. That's called parental guidance. Uhhuh. No, but this is like a 40 foot high structure. Yeah, that's different. Are there placards placards or signs that parental guidance regarding that? I mean just as out of like from a liability standpoint. play at your own risk. There's these big yellow circles like on the slide in these pictures. I think that's as on the big slides. Yes, that's usually how they get up there. That's a good idea. I would love to show you guys this, but this that Well, no, that's the one that they showed. We have a different one that we're trying to use, but Okay. You can you describe it? Like where would you what you what are you trying to get them to do? All right. So, do you want to try? I want to be um Okay, let's let's play. Jessica's going to describe this for you. So he did it under here. It was con keep it was connected on either sides of the poles like on both ridges underneath and it's kind of like a twisty net. So one side goes one way and then the other side goes the other and kids can climb all over it. And the idea was that they'd be able to get onto the bridge and down to the ground from the bridge. Mhm. Bullet bridge. Mhm. So we are working with them on that. So like this like where the netting would continue up to connect to there and kind of but then it's got like two kind of twisty ones that look like this. I realize this is a really good description. No, let me help. Especially the twisty part. And why would they climb on that? Huh? I say and why would they climb on that? Somebody explained to me with children. Sounds like we would take out you take out the railing right in the middle. Part of the railing. Take out the railing. Okay. So, they are going up. Then it would be intentional. All right. That was okay. Versus climbing. Makes sense now. Not over the railing. really worse time on it. Okay. So, there will be a gap. It would make that middle section like I see it'd be nice to have something there that they can Do you like this option? Is Is that No, too lame. A little boring. The the with the net underneath. I I I just kind of failed to see what anybody would do with it, but then I'm not too old. Yeah. I like like what you're saying. I feel like this a picture would entice people to jump over the railing onto that, right? Seems more of a landing stage dive kind of thing. Yeah. Okay. Encourages it to climb instead to jump. But we like nets just not this net. If it allows to climb up to the bridge, got to be best. We don't have any other nets either. It's just shouldn't be a big I wouldn't think. Jessica, do your pictures work up there? I think you those worked right. What? These pictures? Yes. Can you shoot uh the one after where the guy's sitting up here where we need a bench? Mine are not necessarily. Yep. Okay. Keep going. Um, keep going. It's kind of with the net and all that kind of stuff. Maybe back there. Go back. How high up is that? I mean, that's right. That's pretty high up. Should that railing not go all the way across? Uh I mean, is the kid not going to go shimmy through there? And to be fair, there's openings in a lot of places where they would climb down anyways. So, as long as there's a feature there to help support them and get down, I wouldn't leave an opening just with like the netting that's shown tonight because that would be encouraging them to jump, right? And it's not a vertical. It's It's like a slant. You're saying this though? This right. This would have to climb down fences right there. Whatever. That it is. Are you Are you talking these two? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, those would remain. Yeah. But I was saying the gap how steep is it going down this specifically? Yeah. Oh, I mean, we can look into it. I would assume the playground vendor was you know, if it's there with the bar, yes, they can still go over and stuff, but a 2-year-old might not walk right through. But that's that's down to the slope. That's the same slope as roughly as the slide except it's a port in place. You're not going to slide, right? Yeah. There's not much room here at the edge of the board in place. Yeah. Somehow it could go and it's in between there. So they could go on, but it does slant kind. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. Or they maybe they don't want them going over the regular fence like this like the bridge. I mean it's closed and it meets the safety standards. Uh this one might be this is a pretty good view I think of the embankment. Oh looking at it from a different angle. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh okay. There's some slope to it. Yeah. If they walk up boing, you know. Yeah. They'll be walking both up and down. And then they would do the same thing or be able to right outside of this too. They'll roll down Yeah. But the net itself would go all the way through that end, right? Throw stuff. So I I mean I know the Elm Creek Park has angles like Yeah. about that steep and it's uh cuz it's is that rubbery place. Yeah. though contraction somewhat forgiving at least when I fell on it practice fall you were testing it it was for this very moment yes can I ask a quick question please if you go up to the Oh man we don't even have the dy in here it's it's tucked over there well it's not on I can turn it It doesn't have batteries. Doesn't have batteries. I see. Survival of the fittest. I mean, it probably has batteries, but I was told anytime it's on once, it dies. I was going to say on the video that much very well. Probably because it's never on testing. Oh, batteries. Please state your name and address. I will. Katherine DVA, 6747 Old Stirbridge Drive. in corporate. Um, I have a question about the silo. Is is the slide entrance from the silo as high as you can get inside that silo or can they climb higher or can they climb higher? What you saying within the silo? That is a good question. And my only concern with that is that that is a big blank hideyhole for kids to push and shove and bully up there where you don't have any line of sight. You know, those windows provide something. Um, but if you can climb higher within the silo, then I'd be kind of concerned that you can't see what's really going on up there. And then the other thing I was going to say about kids getting on top of equipment, the way they're going to get try and get on top is to go outside that tunnel slide. You know, climb up on top of that tunnel slide. Um, but if they can't, if there's no good way to get up to the top of the silo from the outside, they they won't be able to get there. I don't think they'll be able to get there. So, I don't think from the way it looks, they bring their own climate, which they might I mean, transparently, I think they're going to find a way either way. And they did put I mean, it'll be harder to do with this one than it was. Yes. Like they put this on there and you Oh, just kidding. Oh, how about now? That yellow disc. Yeah, that disc. I think the intention of that is supposed to stop kids from climbing. How many kids do you know that will climb right over that thing? Freeze it up. So, you see what my concern is? If they can get all the way to the top of the inside of the silo, you don't have any way to see from the outside in there. And I think that's a double-edged sword really. Like sometimes kids want the little area to like go and hang out and you're going to have parents who feel both sides of it. So it's ultimately up to what you guys feel is best. I don't just speaking from experience of like, you know, 20ome years of playground supervision. No, that's I mean I think it's a good point of not being able to find your kid. if you're where is my kid and if they're up there it's a little harder for a parent to get all the way up there. Um, so that's a good point. Just, you know, adding adding a window or two or two up there. A window would if you can get up there would help that. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's Yeah, if there's get up in there then. Yeah. Then it's Yeah. If they're just straight walls, up in there, I don't think it's just a big open space easily. It depends if there's another platform level or not. That's the question. And if there is another platform level, is this and open. And if there is, that sounds really warm. Anyways, I don't need ventilation. I don't I doubt there's I will talk to see if what's in there. Yes. Uh if you can go higher. It sounds like maybe window is not. Yeah. I mean, it it is tough to tell from the images how exactly one enters that to begin with. There's a ladder underneath, but So, you can go in a few different ways. You can go up through here and it kind of goes up. You can go in from the from the bridges and then you go up. I guess the the going up part is there is it a ladder? Is it a is it stairs inside? I want a better one of in Well, if it was a real silo and have a flip and then we hang a chain on it and you can just swing elevate yourself down like the real farmers do. Can we fill it with grain? And we can't teach our farmers around here. I mean, there must be a ladder on the inside. Looks like it's scary. I think it I want to say I don't think there's no We have to go back to our probably other presentation. It looks like it's a ladder inside, but it's just a little tough to tell. I wish I could. Well, this is just a sketch, too. need to look at the technical drawing. This is I mean we have the technical drawings too short. Well, we have the over like just the top from the top. So, it's like can we get the technicals from a side view that I think is what I'm going to ask for. Okay. So, here's what I've got so far. Uh the bridge netting thing, we want to upgrade that to something better than what's shown here. Uh the gap between the bars for the bridges here. I'm just going to start pulling up pictures so that I can actually reference these. Um looking at the gap that is right here and seeing if we can find an alternative to that. I think there's gaps on the end too at one of them. They look pretty big to me. Where? On each side of the railing. Oh, it might have maybe your my picture's better like in uh right in here between like the other railing and the Oh, sorry. I keep realizing my mouse is not on the right screen for you guys. Right here. I They look like there was kind of pretty big gaps there, too. Okay. So, yeah. But, you know, and maybe they know with the slope and the safety that it's all and so this being presented, it meets the safety standards for fall zones and everything. So, the playground vendor has deemed it non non-concerning, but if you guys are concerned by it, then we can address it. Mhm. We can ask, I guess, and the gap is there, but there's also just a a two bar railing. Yeah. It's not really It's not really going to hold. No, but you got a little kid running the bar would stop him. Okay. You know what I mean? Where the gap probably wouldn't Yeah. We just cuz some of them are like little that might be more of an eyesore is kind of what I'm trying to avoid. Or cross it. I And that's what I think I'm going to look into, but I just don't have the answers. Um what? So, are you making a net or something that is usable rather than a cliff? But yeah, well, I think that was part of the issue. They couldn't connect the net to there because that would be an issue whereas if it was lower. Yeah. So, I'll work with them on a better net option and fixing the gaps. Um, looking at the silo, figuring out how are kids getting up there? Can they get up to the top? And if they can, can we add some windows? Something so parents can see their kids and no one's fighting in the top of the silo. Um, anything else I'm missing? This might be a What? What's the floor of that silo made out of? Do you know? Is it solid? Is it Yeah. Well, I'm just thinking is it going to hold water if it rains? No, cuz it should have drainage holes to go through just like this one. Yeah. There we go. Okay. Yeah. No, we're just going to make a makeshift wall. Well, splash. That's There's the splash. It's just rainy, dude. It's a twofer on that same one we were looking at. And this one. This one, sweetheart. Um, this one. And maybe it's just the Keep going more slide. Uh, there. There. Back. That one. It might be just me, but I think those two slides are kind of a funny color. The the taupe ones. Yeah. I mean, wouldn't yellow or something fit better? A little brighter or something? Yeah. I don't know. It's just me. They just consensus. They just seem kind of colors are an easy shift. That's what I figured. Uh, are we looking then the dark green from that? You got colors here on the bottom. I think not adding another color. I would pick something that already exists, right? Like that that hunter green or that dark green on the right. Put those on the Yeah. And I wouldn't have a problem. Well, I just said yellow just because I didn't see the color key there to tell you the truth. Like this color. But um instead even adding say they were yellow. You know, the kids are going, "Well, I'm going to go down the green slide. I'm going to go down the yellow slide." You know how kids are saying I'm going to go back down the beige slide or the brown stone. We haven't gotten that far yet. Well, what's yellow? The tropical yellow or the other yellow? In the same regard though, then if we change it to green, we're going to have all green slides. And which green slide are they going down? Mhm. Right. And that's why I just said yellow out of the blue when I saw added another color. No, yellow would be good. just yeah that is just um it does look like there's a couple of yellow options down here. I mean if yellow is the option then I mean there's yellow in the corn over on the end and there's kind of yellow with the all the railings are yellow and in the you know there's blue on the roof. There you go. I think that's metal when I asked them that's what it wasn't like a silver color. Oh she metal. No I am a little structure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right. This one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Okay. So, yeah, cuz I thought it was blue as well, and I went, why is there just one blue piece? That looks funny. It's tropical yellow. I think you made it. Tropical yellow. We're liking regular yellow. Well, what? Yeah, whatever goes with I mean, you know, the hay bells are kind of yellow. The railing's yellow over here. There's a kind of a yellow ladder there. Are the railings yellow? Like that same yellow. Yeah, ask them. The same as what's those are. So if you look in the bottom right corner of the pictures, a lot of them will have like posting component roto mold plastic two-color plastic. So they have other options than just those. Those are just the ones that we're utilizing. So you're telling those railings on there are they're that beige. It's hard to tell from the printed. It's a beige yellow. Beige yellow. Yeah. I think it's hard to tell from printed what that color will be. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the slides do match and we just aren't seeing it, you know? I don't know. Like your printer can print different, but I think it's hard to We could ask them to provide some like real world pictures of other something out there. We could, but we also need to make a decision by the end of the month. So, in order to get the color samples back, get it out to the commission, get a consensus, we'd be looking at Well, how about this? And this is just throwing something out there. Pick a a backup color and then it that the commission likes. If these come out that they're not like this or actually a color that looks a little more appealing and it's just the picture is not showing up well, we'll change them to the back. Do they look different on the screen than they do on your pictures? I don't see that color in one of the options. What color? Is that brownstone or is that brown? Then yes, it I like yellow. What's the tropical yellow? Where's Where is that in this? I don't know if they have any. It might be those See the panels under the silo? That might be like there's like colored panels. Tropical yellow might actually be like this. Oh, sorry. Still on the wrong screen. Like this one. Gotcha. Yeah, because well in the big kid picture, whatever the these railings in here look yellow. They are beige. And the only reason I know that is cuz it's going to be one of the posting components. And I can see on my screen that the colors are matching the colors on the bottom. Oh, are they? Are they? Yeah. So, what I'm seeing on my screen is what's showing up there. And I think those colors are more accurate than what is being presented on the big screen. Oh, wow. Yeah, yours is way different. So, like that brown slide, that's the same color as the one that was. And is it brown? Yes. It's like a tan. It's It's pretty much beige. Yeah, it is brown stone. Brown stone. Okay. Very different on hers. Better. Does it look nice? In a better way. Yes. How it looks on here is how it looks on mine. Oh, like on the TV is how it looks on the screen. Oh, good. So, I think yeah, the printer to be fair, we did run out of yellow toner as I was printing these two. Now, she says after all the if they would I mean, they probably have recommendations for what would fit. I'm fine with that current one or I guess yellow's fine. It would probably be too much green if you go dark green. It's like I would agree. Um, but I think yellow tan either one and also darker colors will get hot hotter. Yeah, I mean it it does match one of the embankment slides. It does pull in more color from throughout the rest of the playground. Mhm. Yeah, I think it should be different than this yellow or yellow. Oh, sure. Yes. Well, okay. because they're right next to each other. Maybe we just change one color. I think they're too much. Yeah, just have them random. But like, doesn't this green side look like it has yellow on it? Yellow stripe. Looks tan. It looks like it has yellow on it. But I don't know if it actually does have yellow. Well, yeah. Like a tanner shade of money, you know. Yellow. It's more yellow when you look at it. I'm watch Oh, you know what? That's probably the other side. It's more of a color cuz there's a second slab that comes down cuz I'm looking at this one. But I don't know if that's the sun now. It sounds like or most people are okay with the yellow. Yellow or tropical yellow. Matt, whatever. I think good old yellow. Yellow. Good old yellow. It'll fade. Brown yellow. Give it 10 years. Well, then wouldn't you want to start with the tropical? tropical yellow. Yeah. So don't look faded to the regular yellow. Okay. So what I've gotten, we want seating near the playground, which I forgot to mention on the first go through. Uh netting under the bridges, trade it out. Bridge gap. Fix those. Uh blind spots in the silo. Figure that out. Open it up a little bit. Only if there's a second level. Only if there's a second level, right? Otherwise, it's windows to nothing. Um, and then the brownstone slides are turning into yellow slides. Yeah, it's good. Could that switch the one that's coming down the hill too then? Correct. I think would you like it there? Why? This one? Yeah. Yeah. As well. Okay. That's my opinion. Sorry. Yeah. We agree with you this time. Can we look at the panels or are we not able to We can look the panels. Are there certain ones that you want to trade out? We just haven't seen them at all. You can just sit here for a second. Are these the ones that are currently on there somewhere? Like all of them? Okay. Are those are those activity panels? There's things to do on for the most part. So, um, this one's got like moving pieces where you can kind of solve a puzzle. Okay. Uh, these are just custom panels that fit the theme. Yeah. Uh, steering wheel panels. Okay. Spots for children to sit. Uh, this one I had to look into it. You look through it and it's transparent, but it changes the colors of things. So, even if they don't like the yellow slide, they can choose a different color. Balcony with telescope. inclined cliff cliffhanger which is basically just rock climbing. Um the tower climber there the skinny one that kids can sometimes go down. Uh this musical one another twisted climber which actually I think got removed with the um net. Um, and then a hypn hypnotized panel where you spin it and then it um, and then a bells. You hit them and it makes noise. Uh, we've got a bridge, some slides. I'm not sure what this one is. A bell puzzle panel. Um, another climber. This is your ADA bucket seat. Uh, Sorry, I have bars in the way of mine. A prism pass. That one I'm also not entirely sure on. Uh the babble talk on tube so you can talk to other people. Those get those are the best even. I think those are pretty cool as an adult. Um more sound making panels. Kids seem to like the things that make the noise. Uh and then a ball maze so it can kind of navigate through the maze. Uh, and then I'll just describe the last set that are in the two to five and then we can go through any ones that you guys are thinking you want to chat through. So, we've got the climbing squares. Like I said, those could not be transferred out for the concrete, which is fine anyways. Uh, tunnels, again, steering wheel panel, tube slide, your spring riders, uh, silo climbers, some stepping stones. So, those are located to get onto the tractor. um the unity swing and then the quote unquote hay bales. Do we want to start with the two to five since it's a little smaller? How do we feel about these? I think they're great. Yeah, it makes sense for the two to five in my opinion. I like the steering wheel inside the tractor. And so where it says two, I want to say one is in the tractor and then one is in the main structure as well. Keep the manual shifter alive. Mhm. Where are those stepping stones that look like ladybugs to me? They are located Don't they say lady? Right here. Oh, like steppers. So they can be used to step onto I just didn't see them in the picture that's all. But maybe you can kind of see it. Oh, they're yellow. Barely raising. Okay, maybe they're yellow. Good with yellow. Do we want a different color? Not ladybug. No, that's fine. See? All right. So then back to some of these. Um, I'm assuming we're keeping the bridge the slides. Do we bell puzzle panel? If it's what I think it is, I think like slide puzzle pieces around. We don't know the alternatives to tell you. Yes or no? That part. And now my I have good news cuz I don't I like all of them. It wasn't like ones. The musical ones are the best. Like up at the kids get you your kids doing musicals. Yeah. Oh yeah. Like at that Maple Grove um right by the library there a lot of xylophones and stuff. My kids just love banging on those things. I need like a cowbell like Yeah. Need more cowbell. That's a good idea. Especially right. Oh yeah. Here looks like a like some bedding. It's just in. That's that under there. That is the item. A little less cool. A little more exciting. Um less of a hammock, more of a climbing wall. Yes. Uh and then as far as panels go, so this is that rainbow one that I had talked about. Oh, good. Okay. Uh these are some shifting sands options. There's like one at Wildflower like that. Sorry, these might each need to load. Uh, this one you can like move around. Is that in the little kids area? That one. I don't think this one was included. No. Okay. Um, accounting one. Abocus. Oh, and I just accounting 101. Uh, this one's just the sensory. You basically just touch it. Uh, there's different textures to it. Shifting Sands again, a construction insert. Not really the farm theme, but it's got stuff. Pretty good. Um, again, there's that steering wheel. Love three of those. Two. Well, they had two in the little kids area, one in I think they were just saying little maze. A little maze. This one seemed to fit the theme better than some of the other ones. Um, a nature hunt, a wy, some shapes and colors and numbers. I don't love this idea. It encourages people to draw on the playground equipment, but I'm also not going to keep things from him. I was thinking about that family. You're probably right, especially given what happened at Yes, I recently took some vandalism off the park. So, magic eraser does wonders. Uh those are the better of the options that I found in my digging. So, if there are any of those that really you're passionate about, I like that maze panel. I did, too. Yeah. Back it up this one or go through it one more time. I have to be slow. Yeah, I like that. Do you want me to go through each? So, you already have this one. So, I'm gonna X out of this. Yay or nay? Doesn't look like it does a lot. Does that middle part spin? It looks like there's ball bearings in it. Probably fall. Sure. I like it. We'll keep it for now on options in case you guys want to I'm just saying like if you're going to trade stuff out, do we want to narrow down what we would write it out for? Right. This one I don't mind this one for like little little but the colors are off. Keeping in mind we already I mean this is if you want to replace the things. I mean if you're good with the steering wheel that's in there. I'd rather do the steering wheel. Okay. Um but we don't love it for 5 to 12 or we do. No. Okay. Everyone gave not necessary gave up look. So uh counting that couple kids ready for college. I'm getting the consensus of no with the exception of one who seems moderately interested. Uh tactile. I like that. Yeah. You like tactile? Uh, shifting sands again. It's the same. Yeah, I'm just going to ask those uh construction. It's not totally in the same vibe, but quite what it does. All of the uh the two to sixyear-old boys in the neighborhood love trucks and anything to do with construction. I mean, I So, I'm I'm partial to that. This one looks like you move something around inside. like you barbarians from maneuver metal balls into dump dump trucks diggers and builders. It's kind of cool. Okay, so we like that one. Is there different colors on the bottom? It looks like Yes. Those three. Well, and I don't think it's limited to those colors. Um well, the red, the yellow and red's an approved. The yellow and red is approved. Yeah. Or match if it's like green and yellow. I What? I like that one. I don't know what I would replace. Um, we already have that. Uh, we liked the maze. Nature hunt. I struggle with this one because I don't think you're going to be finding a bear paw or maybe even a turtle. I played it forever. It's off theme. That one. Yeah. It's up there. Uh, yes or no to the nature hunt. Whimsy wheel. Two to five. What does that do? I think they just move. It's whimsy and it's just whimsical. Uh, spinning wheels and sliding knobs. Yeah. Well, it's great. We have some stuff. There's enough that makes great noise. I'm hearing no uh slide and learn. I'm not hearing a lot of passion. It's kind of cool. I don't get it. Match the color the hue. It promotes color number and shape recognition. Yeah, you fight over it. It's better than accounting, but but not much. Maybe it's cuter. It's cuter. Let's see. Let's go back to then. What are you looking to possibly replace? How many did we look at there? Three that we kind of said yes to. Three or four that you would consider? Um, maybe the hypn the hypnotic wheel. The which one? The hypnotizing one. The bottom right. Bottom. Pale yellow. You don't know what it does. It's just a Oh, that's youized by it. You're not going to play with it. Um, okay. So that one we like the musical panel, the rainbow panel, the slide solve. Um, bell puzzle. Bell puzzle panel. Oh, we already have that ball maze rotating thing. The bottom left. Which one? One of the things we picked was the bottom left one, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. The I mean, sand thing. The bell. Personally, I think the bell puzzle would be one you could replace with the U construction. Which one's the bell puzzle? The next one over on the top. Oh, there. Yeah. So, we want to replace the hypnotized one and the bell puzzle panel. And let me get on this again. Um, it sounds like the construction insert was the big one. Mhm. And then Yeah. This one. Mhm. Find the way home. Mhm. All right. What else do you have for me as far as the playground is concerned? Question on where those speaker tubes are located. We got two. No, the ones where the top. Yeah, I don't think they don't see any. Yeah, I don't know if they put those in. Unless they're underneath. What's it called? The actual bubble talk tube, I think, is what it see on. There you go. That's the other thing. I think the babel one was the one with the two that could talk together. That's the one. Oh, yeah. That's what Yeah, I'm sorry. I thought there was a Oh, I thought you were talking about the one with the bells on the pole. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah, the ones that you talking to for the babble on. There's one um if you're looking at the two um bridges and the netting in between on the right hand side of the right. Oh, sure. Okay. Thank you. Top and then the other end is in between the two slides or which two slides? Um uh yeah. Yep. Okay. Yep. I see that. And then top left. Top left. Oh, scroll. There you go. Very very top left cuz we view. Oh, I see the other one right here. Yeah. Here. Yep. Okay. And down here. That's cool. Do you have a preference? This is pretty cool, but you can't really see it directly on a site. Too easy. No. Mayor McKe is going to be at this playground daily. Mhm. and not because of his son. Once we get the pickle ball cards, I might Yeah, I'll be here with Logan as soon as I can stop watching Frozen and everything. All right. Was there anything on the two to five like playground that we didn't really or we were all good with that? Oh, no. We did kind of go through that. The hay bales and the It doesn't say so, but there is the steering wheel somewhere in here. Yes. Um, you can kind of see it on the tractor. where you'd expect it to be. Hopefully, this one right here. There's two of them. I believe Are there two of them or is that just Maybe there are. Hang on. See, I'm more of a person. There's a window. Two window walls. Maybe there's not a steering wheel in there. I don't know where you going to put it though. It does not say it on here. I wonder if it's built into the tractor structure and that's why because it is a custom tractor. Is there one in the cab? Is that what it was? I think so, but I can double check that. I don't know that we necessarily need two in the other structure. No. If there's two in the other structure, I recommend Yeah. cutting one of those out and replacing it. In which other structure? If there's two in the five to 12 and none in the uh 2 to five. Yeah. Looks like one and one at that point, right? I mean, yeah, I think steering wheel or two in the tractor. Okay. That's what it looks like, right? Yeah. It just doesn't So, I think that's part of like it's a custom, right? Those are built in and not the panel that we saw. Two is good though, believe it or not, cuz you got two kids. Well, I want to drive. I want, you know what I mean? You don't have one take from the other one. Uhhuh. Especially in that age range is I'm starting to get that, you know. I They always want what the other one has. Oh, yeah. They're like the steering wheels in the back. Okay. Is there any other feedback you need from No. Um I I I said earlier I'd need a motion, but honestly, I I don't I think you guys have provided enough direction. Okay. Mhm. And you know, it's it's quite spectacular. I think it's just it's just really really nice. It looks like a a massive upgrade over here. Yeah. Yeah. Get her gear going. Not that the playground that's there now isn't great. No, it's good. And we love it. It's just to see better days. Of course. We all have. All right. Well, then I'm good if you guys are good. Good. Yeah, thank you. Okay, we'll move on to new business. We have city park now renaming. Yes. So, a topic of discussion that has been brought up is renaming city park. Um, I don't know about you guys, but I do not have a consistent um there's not a lot of consistency with what people call it. I've heard city park, community park, dinosaur park, uh basically any name you can think of to describe that park and a lot of times it's not city park. So trying to hone in and make sure that we have a cohesive name for the park um is important especially as we're upgrading it. So, the thought was looking for thoughts on with the playground featuring a farm design and the timing being right for a possible renaming, including brand cohesion as we're updating the signs that are going to be at the park. Um, and those inconsistent references. The thought was Heritage Park as a naming option. Um, it matches the guidance that you guys had given previously. Maybe not you, Commissioner Walsh. She might not have been here. For uh park naming, it met all of the qualifications that were pre- discussed. So, the avoiding individuals names, reflecting the history in the setting, um and then it's easy for community adoption. It's kind of I'm looking for you guys to make a recommendation to council. Um they have heard the name Heritage Park. Uh, Mayor McKe actually brought it up to me last week while I was presenting about City Park. So, running it by the commission, getting thoughts. The first thing that popped in my mind was harvest. Me, too. I like that. Harvest. Um, my thoughts on Heritage Park is I think there is one in Plymouth, not too far. There is. It's a small neighborhood park. There is a heritage and a harvest park both in We are original. Well, we had city park for a long time. That's a good point. So, I think when I think about it, I also it's a place that we're going to have the Diamond Lake Trail go through. So, it would be really good to have a name that are going to kind of attract people or be very easy to reference. And I worry like Heritage Park is a little I don't know specific. I think the parks that we like to go to or know there's like Teddy Bear Park in Duth which like very clear there's a bunch of teddy bears teddy bear park and so I my preference would be a name that kind of people could say oh I'm going to go to that park and I know right what we're talking about whether it's like farm themed or like was joking oh like corn cob park something like just like on the nose that it's really easy to say. So I'm I don't like dislike heritage, but I don't think it like would be something I'd go through Diamond Lake Trail to remember. That was What part was that? I think part of the other reason we were leaning towards heritage was some of the stuff we might do uh maybe in the in the structure itself and the building with maybe putting up some old plat maps and old trying to tie it into the history of Corkran. Um so that's where initially came up with Heritage Park. No, you do. Does might be embarrassed to say it. Does Corkran have like a motto or a tagline or a saying? anything on our hidden gem waiting to be discovered like a mission statement or like anything we can pull a word from a something that we've already put a lot of thought into regarding Corker just a thought to tie it not so much from the tagline I don't think which isn't really incorporated on stuff more no because it was I don't think it was never really adopted. I think it just kind of happened. Okay. Um trying to think from the mission statement. So we stand out. I have some I some thoughts. Um and and I something stirring around me and maybe it's because I'm a city guy. Um, I just it just raised some flags. I'm not sure we want it to say what we want it to say. And we certainly do have a history of agriculture. Our heritage is that, but when you just say heritage, which heritage are we talking about in this day and age? If you're one of the new South Asian families and we say heritage, does that mean that I'm not welcome here? Your heritage is not We haven't had South Asian families here before. Well, what does what does that mean that we're talking about then the heritage or the same with the with with the new with any of the other newer groups that come into town? We want them to feel welcome and I don't think it it does that just on its own. Um, the other thing is is that our heritage, our history of Corkran is really sketchy. I mean, we've got about a page. the interview that you did with some of the old-timers is really helpful, but we that has not been developed here in Corkran in any real way. Um, you know, you know, I think it's it's a nice point that if you go back and look at the maps, City Park was was a volunteer effort back in the 1970s and that's that's pretty spectacular, you know, but but I bet we we've now doubled the number of people in Corkran who know that volunteer park. Yeah. Um, you know, I will say, uh, speaking kind of generally or a little more broad, um, when I first moved to Corkran, trying to find some of the history of just the area was is it's not an easy task. It's not an easy task. Um, and most of it's done by the church. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, food for thought. But, um, no, I I I agree. I think um Heritage Park on its own, sure. Maybe it's a little boring. It is. It is boring. The theme of the park on its own, totally fine, right? It makes sense. I think combining the two, you sort of insinuate that that is that those are, you know, tied together for better or worse. Um so you're saying personally, I think Heritage Park maybe is a little broad of a name. It's pretty bland. Did you have some ideas? Well, you know, I what I what I would I mean I would be I would be happier with with with to name our new structure to call it Heritage Hall at City Park or Heritage Hall at whatever the name of the park is. And then in there we can have the pictures. We can have whatever whatever parts of Corkr history we want to show. That could even even rotate. I don't know if the is the you know although that calls for a new committee of cork rights to to come up with those new new things you know but but uh but certainly to have that be part of where Corkran's history is located where it's place where everybody goes you're there for an event or for to vote or whatever have some some good displays on the on the on the wall to to do that um names for that park I you know I I don't know it it does feel like Heritage City Park is a kind of a 1970s thing because that's when we built it. Heritage Park is a 1980s thing. Um, so is it something that would be worth opening it up um for suggestion more broadly like a survey or Yeah, I'd be a little hesitant about that. My two cents just knowing uh when we have and when other entities have done online surveys a lot of times you get parky mc park face as and then it makes it hard and then it makes it harder to decide too because you have so many options. There are a lot of creative people out there. Can I throw another one out there? Sure. Pasture park. Pasture. Yeah. I like something in that vein. Pasture park or and the reason I say that so heritage and harvest have both I've heard them right pasture you're maybe incorporating like it's open fields so you're addressing like the athletic side of it. Um, it's still got that farmsque theme, but if you guys are saying heritage isn't quite meeting what is the heritage or if to Commissioner Anderson's point, maybe it's heritage hall. I mean, either way, I mean, whatever you decide that I have no true preference in what you decide to name this beautiful facility, but the time the time popped up that looking at naming it or renaming it, it's the appropriate time. What does that look like? What are people's thoughts? And heritage is the one that Mhm. kind of came out from the shorts. I I I do tend to agree with the heritage like Heritage Hall if it had the the history there sounds really cool, but the park itself, you know, perhaps uh pickle pasture park, right? You know, pickle ball pasture. Your idea, my idea. Every time we get pickle balls over pickle pasture park, it rolls right off the top. I think I think we have a a real suggestion. Farming field or farming fields because you have because there's more to this park than just there is farm and field especially when it's all far and appreciate the suggestion. So, this is supposed to move forward next on Monday. The name, huh? Like a recommendation from you guys. Can't the name wait a little longer? I can put that in the report that the commission would prefer to think and I can tell you council's response is going to be, can it? I don't know. The council response will be what will be can it wait? I don't know. Well, the scient for quite a while, right? Depends on who you ask. Okay. I would say I think we have some time if we would like to look at it. Okay. But it sounds like it was I don't know. I don't there there's no part of this project that needs to have the name fixed, doesn't I think part of the reason we were looking at it was like if we're doing the donations for the park, which we're trying to get it up and running, we were looking at possibly doing stickers as like a hey, thanks for donating. Here's a sticker to show that you did. And so part of that was going to be I donated to the name. Could that be a way of drawing in maybe a larger singular donation and potentially offering up the name of the park to move away from that policy wise. Um I would be surprised if we had someone come in who wanted to pay enough sure candidly seven figures. In the past, we brought up and and kind of thinking forward though of other parks like we've thought of tying together, right? We have the wildflower and then what's the there's just the it's not considered the memorial garden. Okay. Yeah. It's still just the wild flower. So, and then I think and it's not wild. I think you're call you bringing up last time. Yes. Yep. Is that prairie part? But like tying the names together. Yeah. And so does the new park up with the boardwalk. Yes. There's no other neighborhood park and it that needs open space park and an open space park. Yeah. Which one has the boardwalk? The one in Bellweather neighborhood park. So I guess just thinking is there an interesting open space together the amenity center to the open space park which then connects to the neighborhood park. Okay. So kind of a doing geography. That's good. Yeah. Don't ask me what direction. North south though I like prairie prairie park other than like something pasture and prairie prairie pasture park oh you think that aliteration's always I just I'm just picturing like I said I picture that person riding their bike up that diamond lake trail and I want to have a simple memorable name that's like pickle that's the pickle Pickle Park. We're all going to be We know it's going to be the Domino Park. The do Yeah. No, probably. So, the the creek that runs on the north side, that's that's not named, is it? Uh, county ditch number county ditch seven. That would be a natural. Is that what you're looking at for that? I don't know. I mean, that's county ditch seven park. That's the That's the That's the other feature of the park. Creekide or something? Well, that sounds like Maple Grove. Sure. Sounds like Bloomington to me. They had a good community center. But um so recommendation from parks and trails is to give us a little continue brainstorming. We'll come back. It'll come by July. It's kind of fun. It'll be a middle of the night thing. And just I'd say it's fair to say we don't think Heritage Park meets the fair. Yeah. I like Heritage at all for the building. That's good. I like that. Mhm. Okay. You're not hurting my feelings. If that's why you guys feel like you guys keep looking at me like I'm going to cry. Maybe we can send you a whole bunch of name item next. I mean, it could be weird. It could be whatever and then we can No, no, no. And maybe come up with something. That's part of the brainstorm. You're not going to hurt anyone's feelings. We're going to throw out ideas. Hopefully, no one gets upset. Like Pickle Prairie Park. Yeah, but then maybe maybe that makes All right, cool. I Okay, never mind. I had one other authority. You're the vice chair. We'll get going. We'll go on to new business without a garden club request. 8B. Yes. So, if you haven't seen it yet, the garden club shed is up. It's beautiful. It's on the north side of the building. Check it out. They've got a wheelbarrow. They've got some other things in there. However, they would like to ask for a few more things because now they have somewhere to put these things. So, they would like a garden tel, a garden knife, an action hoe, a bypass pruner, a bypass ler, a mulch fork, and two sturdy buckets for a total cost of approximately $240. And the mulch. The mulch fork. Sturdy buckets. No janky bucket. Um I I'm asking for up to 300 to allow me some give and take to find things that will last for them that will be quality. Didn't we do a policy that lets them up spend up to Yes, but it needs parks and trails approval. Ah, gotcha. Up to $5,000 before we have to go to council and get approval from them. kind of surprised the mulch fork is that expensive. It was a specific kind of mulch fork. Like the one I sent was not the one that they wanted and I was like, "Okay, I don't know anything about mulch forks." Do we have any comments or I'll make a motion for 300. Are you hand tools? Mhm. 300. Isn't that what you were hoping for? Mhm. Yeah. I second that. Any more than that? Nope. I think that should be good. All in favor? I. All opposed. Approved. So, Susan Nelson is the one who has been taking over the garden club. Nice. And Susan is she is a she's Yes, she is. and she is extraordinarily knowledgeable on on na and the natural life in this place. She writes uh blogs and columns and and and stuff on plant plant life and along with being a very nice person and so so garden club is is busier than they've been. They're actually doing some things. They are doing a lot of things and planning a lot of trips. And how's recruit been? Uh, we got we got a new person. So, it's it's it's pretty slow. But is there an age limit? No. Well, old enough. I mean, on the low end, my daughter, you know, if you can, would she come with supervision? Oh, yeah. You know, 15. There's I thought you meant you. She probably doesn't want to pick this for long, you know. No, but you can have her come for bring your kid to garden club. Yeah. and and if we're working out there, go visit. Just figure she'll get bored before the rest of us, you know, be ready to be ready to leave early. Your patience. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Um, Commissioner Park, I did have I did have this, too. Uh, this, if you're curious, is the mulch fork in question. Sure. So, 124, not a full 130. I rounded. Yeah. Tax. I I can vouch for the Menard's bucket. I do have that bucket. It's a good bucket. Yeah. Is Is it Is it solid bucket? Is it Is it not quite as good as the Home Depot bucket, but cheaper? It's a lower profile. Get 11% back. Yeah, exactly. Does that go back to the garden club? The 11% or does that go to the park? You know, really it should Oh, I I don't know. That's very cool. Start seeing rebates in our dedication. They're only good for the accounting people love that one. Okay, so we have that closes out new business. We'll move on to nine reports and information. We have planning project update for information. Per usual, if you have questions about that, I am going to pass the buck on that to the council member that is here. If you have any questions, I I didn't come with anything really prepared cuz I kind of came on a whim, but if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them. My only question was on the one that is just south of the city park. I think that's 13. the old uh Corkran Farms business park. The it got run into something else. That's one that has our regional trail going through it. So, I saw I saw what they had proposed at the city council meeting and my feedback would be they're leaving a little sliver of trail for our regional trail. I think the vision for that with three rivers was like we want 50 foot wide swaths through the as this trail. We want a lot of space dedicated for it. So, I don't know. was just something to consider with that development. I think that there's a it's a really good opportunity to connect that city park to south which is where all that the whole trail goes. So I think that is if it comes to development a pretty important piece for our our diamond lake project. Yeah, I agree. It's it's a really big connecting piece that get a lot more access to the park and helps. We'll have some of the northern section of that built sooner than later get close to north the south in Corkran on the Diamond Lake in the foreseeable future. Um, with that, I think the issue there probably is if it's something like what was proposed at that concept plan we saw last week that was just barely meeting I think it was at 2.99 density instead of three.5 pretty soon for minimum density. Um, and that's if we were to approve and then that council were to approve a comp plan change from the industrial that was already that site was approved as an industrial site before. Um, so I don't know if there's a ton of room to find on either configuration on that, but I I I get what you're saying and would love that. Um, but definitely something to try to keep in mind if there's a way to either shift around a little bit or get creative with some open space. And I don't know how it works if like diamond or if the reverse reimburse like how that process works for that type of It's a reimbursement. Okay. Is that I'm apologize. Is that the larkin road going one here? Yeah. Yes. Thank you. I'm just verifying it was in the right spot. So I don't know if you Yeah, we don't have to. But they had like a little trail going around the whole east side. Just like what looked like just neighborhood size trail for our what would be Diamond Lake. It's a minimum uh 10 foot wide trail for the Diamond Lake trail, right? Yes. For the trail. Yeah. As opposed to city trail 8 ft. Yeah. But then they want like a 50 foot like I said they want like a 50 foot as you're building this a big corridor. It wouldn't be what we're doing. They did note though that they understand there are pieces that they're not going to be able to do that with. Um I do think they get some benefit from the park too right after that. Yeah, I was going to say it didn't and they are doing a search corridor for East West pretty soon. Um and I've been advocating for a while that just on their kind of fat line that they've done and we're looking in this area for an east west trail. It almost intersects at the park. I've been advocating for a while that they shifted that down. They could actually intersect two regional trails at the park. Um, and that would be a pretty big open amenity for them that maybe makes up for the lack of space and some of the segments. So, yeah, I get the restriction. I just want to voice the Yeah, I think it's a we'll have few opportunities to like make that trail a full virtual trail. Yep. Absolutely. And I anticipate we'll see probably another concept plan from that site before we see anything in terms of a uh going forward with the official steps for preliminary reasoning compound change. It need that site has about as many hoops to jump through as possible changes that they want. So it'll be back in front of council at least in planning commission a few times and possibly and you guys for at least one. I just have more of a commissioner training type question. So this is active planning projects. uh what justifies it no longer active like when does it fall off of this update? Um as a same more for developments. So like when do they no longer become active? I guess I don't know that we've had like a strict you talking about like on the back here. So yeah, just like Well, like there's like Woodland Hills is one that's currently under development. Mhm. Um but but they're they would probably no longer be giving updates here of that development because it's already gone through the planning process, right? So it's like when it's approved then maybe it fully approved. Does it fall off of here? Honestly, Dwight's the one that puts this together and it's moreformational than anything else. A lot of the times the things that are on here don't actually pertain to parks and trails even. Um so I can ask him. I would assume that once it's approved or or denied. Um that that's when it would get removed. Um denial for sure. I think um maybe Hills isn't on here. Well, sometimes there's um you know, like in take Ravenia for example, and it took years. We just finally got the final phases in in the last couple years, and they're still not finished closing out many phases. So there's still sometimes updates in that regard and work on trails and work on miscellaneous things that's still going on in the 10-year-old development that you wouldn't anticipate. So sometimes things like that might stay on. Um, but we can certainly talk to Dwight and staff and see if there's some tweaks that would make it easier to I guess I'm more Yeah, I was just more just curious of those developments that are currently underway like Tivera or Woodland Hills like is there anywhere to get updates on those developments if things change in those? So, that's kind of all I was thinking of, but thanks. Yeah. Any other questions? Okay, on to parks, recreation, and trails update 9B. Hey. Hi. Hello. Me again. Uh, so May 22nd, I was actually not in attendance. Natalie did this presentation because it was more related to the planning side of things, but city council approved the site plan and the variance for the city park remaster. If you recall the variance, I I know if you guys even heard about that. Um, basically the building is right smack dab on the line of the two parcels. And so the variance is normally you need a setback from the boundary. Well, we own both pieces of property. So that and then uh I think there was some vegetation requirements um that were not omitted but like flexed a little bit so that the Diamond Lake Regional Trail could still have the meander and being mindful of the neighbors and vegetation that is necessary. Um other than that, City Park bid results they went to council last week on Thursday. Um, we requested feedback on the bids that were received to provide a better understanding of what alternates the council was really looking for in there. Um, bid results came back really good. I would say really good. Uh, they came back under budget or under the estimate estimated amount with alternates. Um, during the meeting last week, council was pushing to move forward with the everything except for pedestrian lighting. So it was the pin wheelel paths, the Diamond Lake Regional Trail, the boardwalk within the regional trail, the parking lot. You talked about parking a full parking lot pave and then there's irrigation. Irrigation. Thank you. Oh, you got it right there. Very convenient. Uh, additionally, the building bids came back favorable as well. Uh, 2.2 2 was the number instead of 2.8 which was what our estimate was and that included both alternates. So the alternates for that was the eastern side of the building the overhang and then um the partition to separate the two rooms. So things are looking good up. We are getting there. So, next week, well, Monday of next week, um I am going to be returning to council to request approval of the bids and acceptance and moving forward with the project. So, who who the council says yes on Monday. When does digging and grading start over there? Mid July. Mid July. We've talked to the contractors just to see like what if this goes through like what timeline are you looking at? and they want to go rock and roll with it. Cool. Totally before I put it back on the screen. Uh, otherwise, garden club, park planning, special events, Diamond Lake Regional Trail, City Park. Those have been my focuses. Same as normal. What's new? Good question. Um, what is new park? And that's what we react to. See how I did that? Can we go into the program coordinator. Sure. That closes out 9B. We go 9C. Program coordinator update. Hey everybody, I'm Parker Taber. I'm the new program coordinator here at the city of Corkran. Uh I'm a senior at the University of Wisconsin Lacrosse. Um I've lived in the community ever since I was born. I live right on the other side of uh the city park Corkin Trail. So known this place for a while. Um, so some things I've been working on, as you guys probably know, some games have been rained out for basically every league that we run in baseball. So trying to reschedule those games. Um, this week I collected some equipment from the coaches for season end. Um, the last equipment collection will be on Thursday from Machine Pitch. Um, and then coordinated a little bit with Jamberee and area teams. So handover and Rockford were most of the teams I think in the jamboree and then kind of oversaw some season wrap-up stuff. And then on to night to unite. Uh Josh, our cso here and I have been going out requesting donations. We pretty much just finished that today. I have to call one place and then we're pretty much done with the inerson stuff for that. In addition to that, I created the new nightite bingo card. um as you see on the slide here. Um and so that'll be at our night to unite for all the kids to enjoy and kind of fill out. You guys can play. True. True. And bring your own dabber, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then I also created a neighborhood uh party invitation template and a block party tips and tricks document that we posted to the Corkran web page. Um so people who need to access that can. Um, and then worked with a planning team to finalize plans for the event. And then other stuff I've been working on is finalized articles highlighting recreational programming and park rentals that are going to be included in the summer newsletter. And then create a potential map for Bark in the Park here at city hall. So that kind of includes like a rest station, water station, a photo opportunity out by the garden there, and then kind of like a tennis ball event where they can kind of play fetch and different stuff like that. Um, and then I also brainstorm potential ideas for future event park programming after the park renovation is done and updated flyers on the bulletin board at the park. Good job. Thanks. So, tell me about the J. Jambbury is a new new to me. No, you've done it three years. I mean, yeah, we've done it for a few years. It used to be more of an end of the season tournament. Okay. Uh then we turned it into more of a roundroin just free play. More more fun, less less stress. You know how that's works, right? So, what are you studying in school? Uh, communications with a minor in leadership development. Minor in minor leadership development. Leadership development. Very good. Very nice. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Nice to have you here. Yeah. So, does that mean you have Well, you have every resident of Corkin is your boss, of course. But then there's also Jessica. Is Seth also your your boss? No, it's just you. Oh, boy. Okay, that's enough on vacation, which is why he's not here today. He won't be back. Okay, good. Parker didn't replace Seth. Don't worry, guys. We still get both of them. Awesome. All right. So, then we have our subcommittee miscellaneous reports. 108 garden club report. I you know, we there are some activities being planned uh going off site stuff and there we're battling I've not been very active, but I know they're battling thistles in the uh in the garden. So, would you like me to give an update? I got an email today. Oh, good. Um, they are doing a Kelly and Kelly nursery visit on the 22nd. If anyone is interested, they are doing the 2025 Henipin County Master Gardener Learning Garden Tour. Uh, Saturday, July 12th, August 15th or 16th, so Country Days weekend. Uh, Natural Shore Technologies Nursery and Independence. They're going to be going out there and looking at what they got. Then they're also looking at exploring Girtton and Inberg Grove Heights and Tangle Town Gardens in Minneapolis. So if anyone is interested in either joining the garden club or learning more about these events, please feel free to reach out to me and I will connect you with Susan. Thank you. Anything else? Garden Club. No. Okay. And then we have the Tundi Park dedication fund update. Commissioner Nigo, I'm sorry. I know it's not in here. I was going to say, was it in there? I I included the numbers. So, we're looking at how our finance side of things is set up and if we're doing it in the best way to reflect the information that we're trying to reflect. Um, so our finance team is working through that. Needless to say, they didn't want me finagling the Excel spreadsheet anymore. That's uh so we're looking at how to have it reflect the information that we're trying to reflect without having me finagle the report every single month. And we're looking at a new process. So here is the amount that's available in the park dedication fund and the memorial garden fund. And if you have any questions about transactions, I'm happy to share them with you. Um, the main outgoing transactions have been to City Park because we're using the funds for paying the consultants. Other than that, we've gotten a few um park dedication funds from developments. So, we're holding pretty steady and we're at four 5.7. We shouldn't have to use it all for this park project due to the external funding that we have. So, and I think we're still I know Jay mentioned it a while ago about a potential update to the calculation for parks education, but we haven't discussed it. Yes. I think that's still on in the works. Um that I think Jay's working on with this experience. I think Natalie Natalie too like the amount it is Natalie and I were working on that a few months ago before we brought it to you guys. Um, other questions? Okay, sounds good. So, then we have other business announcements. The one thing I didn't bring up before I had a topic. I have been thinking about the park and I was wondering if we can say no, but I thought it was to me it might be meaningful to have like a small dinosaur somewhere hidden in that park. as part of the heritage as far as like the donation process. So, I just thought that would be something we want to consider as part of our design where just like kind of an Easter egg just anywhere. So, it doesn't have to be like in the playground container. It can be like Yep. Yeah. I was thinking part of the playground somehow. The Domino's mural. There you go. The Domino's giant where I don't think that's what he was thinking. Got exactly what I meant. No, you're not though. You take the old playground and you slap it up on the engineer. Yeah. And then you get your dinosaur. It's blown into that heritage. I don't know that we've had any submissions for it. You have You've been in contact with the family though. Okay. And how is Remind me how that's gone? Good. Good. Um they're very interested in still pursuing the donation. Uh they did start their own website a little while back so they do have some funds already available. Um they were also looking at doing like a personal donation from their own funds. Um and I've been meeting with them. That's kind of where the netting topic came into play. Are their hearts still set on the dinosaur? No. That's why I thought it might be meaningful to have like a small I thought to I don't think they'd be opposed to it but they they made it clear that they don't need it. Okay. It it doesn't have to be the dinosaur. We cleared the the farm theme with them and if they would still be interested and they were like, "Yeah." Okay. Okay. Okay. Question. I I do like the idea of a dinosaur though. If you can tell me where you want to put it. Unless it's supposed to be a secret so that people can find it. Is that why you don't want to say it? Huh? Hidden dinosaur park. Yeah. It could be just a little hidden hidden dinosaur park. That's That's the theme is there's a It's It's all It's all But there is a hidden dinosaur. Hidden dinosaur. Does that pond have a name? No. Ditch pond. Ditch. Creek overflow pond. I do think the creek has a name though to be honest. Uh I think it's part of like Rush Creek, isn't it? Or it's one of the forks of Rush Creek. Probably is an unnamed tributary of Rush Creek. It's going to grab me. Okay. What's the name of the lake in the west? Like Jubert? Yeah, Jubert. The only lake we have. Zero public. A little bit of Cooper. A little bit of lake. Yeah. But that's why we are like the third biggest city by land area in the state of Minnesota. We don't have any lakes. Cattail park. Look at their map. Down in the lake. Yeah. condition. Any other business announcements people want to Okay, then I'll look for a motion to close the meeting. Motion to adjurnn. Second. All in favor? I opposed. All right. Thank you.