I don't know that it necessar needs to be clarified in the minutes themselves, but um it came back up because there's a question of the 10 what do we mean by 10% overage? And I think where I kind of landed was both of like both if a if a single line item changes by 10% or if the total changes by 10% it should come back. Not one or the other. if I if either of them that was kind of what was in my head but I don't think that was a formal motion at any point really I think it was just feed it was feedback right it was the feedback to staff what should you do and it was like well if anything changes more than 10% but I don't remember if that was actually formally in the motion

Uh, three I and J. There are no dollar amounts associated with those two improvements, I guess I'd call it. Now, I did get Jay sent to me earlier today or second I talked about that, but Paul didn't have any numbers associated with his.

The uh it also reads in there that the interest from that 1.875 will be split between DCM and the city...To me that seemed a little bit odd. Once it's paid, I don't see why it and it has been paid already. So, I don't see why we're splitting that interest.

Something that kind of bothered me a little bit recently, the uh handling of the flock situation. Um, I'll go through the whole spiel. Council voted to pause these this program on the 26th of of uh August. And from what I can see, flock was not notified until like the 17th or 18th of September. In the meantime, they put up cameras, which probably shouldn't have been put up, but uh in any rate, it caused a a big stir. Everything everybody in this building doesn't doesn't look good for this. And communication was really lacking in this deal.

Um, I had a resident reach out. Uh, she had a concern about someone possibly violating our codes. And in the past, I would have directed her to Hayden. Um, and knowing Hayden would get her to whoever whether either would handle it himself or direct to their proper person. And I realized I wasn't sure what to tell them. So, in this moment, if if a resident reaches out and says, 'I I have a concern about a code violation. Who should I direct them to?'

The MPCA is accepting grant applications for projects that will expand participation in Minnesota's organic recycling system. The six $6 million grant funded by the US EPA aims to reduce the amount of food and other organics going into landfills, which I know we're heading toward this year. Um, I won't read the whole thing, but the grants will fund programs focus on organics collection, organics recycling, outreach, and education. Minimum grant will be no less than 100,000, and the maximum individual grant will not exceed 1.5 million. um grant applications are due by November 25th.

We will not actually physically assess for about 30 days, but this public hearing has to go in front of the council to approve... We have numerous people come in the last absolute last day to pay. Are there um are there for someone who c who wants to pay but can't like they're they're having financial challenges? Yep. Are there grant programs that they could apply for that the city could direct them to for like assistance or support?

reach out and we're happy to help if we can. Um, again, the worst that you can hear is we can't do anything unfortunately and you got to pay your bill or it's going to go to your taxes. So, yeah, again, reach out if you have questions. We can do our best to provide resources. But once it's um referred to the the property taxes, it it doesn't work that way. Then that ship has sailed.

Yeah. I guess we go kind of go through this every year. And do we make an effort to contact some of these people? I mean, there's some really low dollar amounts in there also. Every one of them.

Uh it seemed Marty it unusually high for fuel and diesel. $9500 worth of gasoline. $4,500 worth of diesel. Yep. Why? Prices are just going up. We're not using any more than that. It's just the price of the the product coming in. Really grass is growing.

Um I had a question if we are tracking the spending that we're doing for that rental property. Um when we because when we approved it, the idea was we weren't doing this to make money as a city, but we also weren't going to lose money as a city. And I'm I just I'm assuming that's being tracked and okay, coores, the answer is yes. Um we did have the um renter prepay a large amount for the rest of the year. So um right now it looks like we're really high. Currently that'll obviously break out over time, but we are not making money on that process currently. We're also not supposed to be losing.

A lot of additional information was put in this time around like the electric like what the um the lights like where everything was going. It was just a lot clearer to see this was going here, this was going here, this was going here. So, I just wanted to say thank you. I appreciated that. Um, and it made it easier for me to to know where everything was going. So, I appreciate the additional information in that.

We have heard some feedback from our employees and staff that we are struggling to keep the policies in place when we have multiple policies that are being signed. So we just combined the communication policy, vehicle use policy into one policy so that they're only signing one of them.

One of them that did come up just today or say yesterday with Amy and I were talking, we would like to add some language that is not currently in this personal policy and not in the items that you see related to Microsoft Teams status. So, we are looking to add some language. Yes. So what that means is that currently employees can set their times to offline and then we don't know if they're available, unavailable and it doesn't help with communication amongst staff members. And so we are looking to have that added in the personal policy that you have to leave that as a open item so that we know if you're away, if you're in a in a meeting, if you're available, if we can communicate back and forth easier as we continue to move forward.

Some history on my choice is uh to fill this open seat. In 2020, I was a third choice in the election for a uh for the election that I lost and later appointed that same year. Um because I was a third choice with the residents in the election. Uh this combined with um the fact that I was on council for 4 years after or before this I believe is is uh the reasoning why I was appointed.

Um, and I came out with a a top four that were all very close together. Um, Keith Grover, Sean Heler, Rhonda Spa, and Mark Triola all um came out of that process very high and very close together. Um, and those four stood out to me. I would I would gladly work with any of those four. Um, my the one that did come out a little bit on top because of just the amount of feedback I got from residents was Keith Grover.

I mean I think I I the feedback I got was primarily from residents was primarily I mean almost overwhelmingly for Keith and the other comments that I did get were specifically not Shan Luther for and you don't think that was a You don't think that was a stage planned effort? Okay. But that's the point of campaigning, right?

I value the residents feedback but that was not an election. No. Right. It was posted on Facebook. We got a good response of of emails and you know in terms of that being the conclusion that doesn't do it for me. We have to I mean we have to dive deeper than that. That's one piece of the puzzle. Right.

I am fine with HKGI. I think they're doing exactly what we're looking for. I'm against helping any AI company um, steal the the intellectual property of other people um, and then pass it off as their own. And I would not want to be party to helping that in any way, shape, or form. So, I have no interest in working with them um in this whatsoever. So, I don't care if it's free. I I'm not not into stealing other people's intellectual property and pretending that it's going to somehow save us anything and then also get a shitty um AI slop turned back at us.

It was more or less a Okay, here's a process and if it's free, try it out and see what the you can kind of bounce the two off each other. You know what I mean? Again, that was the process behind it. It's financially zero dollars and it gets you a ballpark idea to make sure HKGI and out in left field or right field you're kind of got a I'm going to call it a baseline set I guess. I don't know exactly.

Um, the [snorts] applicant received an interim use permit for home business and home extended business in 2018. Um, that IEP had a 5-year expiration as do most IEPs for home extended businesses. Uh, the property owner did not realize that. The city did not follow up. Um, so that IEP expired in 2023.

Um cuz I know I did notice in the when I was looking at the the planning commission recommendations, right? One of the concerns is like is this setting a precedent for other? And I think for me, I'm okay with it for a couple of reasons. One, the remote location. It's not a through street. um they've had zero complaints and that to me makes a huge difference. It's also all internal. Like all of the story is just inside a structure and I think that to me like it's a neat tidy like it just looks very professional. It looks clean. There have never been any complaints. There's no tra you know there's no additional traffic. Um and everything is inside.

Well, I was going to say this is one of the ways we keep large lots alive because it wouldn't take much for this property owner to to, you know, when the developer comes knocking to say, 'Yeah.' Um, so if that's I mean, to me, that's our goal and that's one of the things that I think we should be doing is finding ways for these these people to keep their land, to keep them viable.

The request by the applicant is to reszone the property from B3 general business to I1 light industrial. The city has a high level of discretion in approving a reszoning. Uh the map on the screen is the current zoning map. The red is B3. The light blue is industrial or light industrial. And that purple with the dots is business park. Uh so you can see this is surrounded by business park uh general com or B3 and I1. Um something to consider with a resoning is conformity with the comprehensive plan. Uh this property is guided industrial in the 2040 comprehensive plan and so are the surrounding properties. Uh because this resoning request conforms with the um comprehensive plan staff does recommend approval of the request.

they will connect to city water immediately from what I understand. But they will not connect to city sewer because of the length of pipe is needed to get there. But they will be required to when it becomes available.

Isn't Isn't this going to be tabled? This is going to be tabled because of the compre comprehensive plan issue. So we'll yeah mayor and council. So we can um do two items based on the review from the city attorney. Um what I'm going to suggest is either um approve with conditions related on conditioning of the comp plan amendment. Um or you can table the item related to this. Um the reason for that is because this the comp plan amendment has not been yet approved and seen by the city council because it was noted during the planning commission meeting that it would come to the 29th of October meeting.

The only thing that I do want to make sure that we mentioned um for the water and the sewer fund, we are starting to allocate our staff where they're working at. So we before we used to allocate them to just all the departments because it was it was whoever can work on it great. Um we are now starting to have specialized staff in certain departments. So we are seeing more and more of those changes and shifts within um staff um who may not do um nearly anything within the public works department beyond water and sewer type work.

We have a retirement next year that we are planning on. The individual has a significant number of years of um service to the city of Dayton which we are going to greatly greatly miss. It is not Marty. [laughter] Um but that individual has been here a number of years or almost 30 I think pretty close. And so because of that we would like to hire somebody for a six-month time frame before overlapping so that when that person leaves with doesn't just walk out all the door with all the knowledge with all the knowledge.

On the flip side, I'm going to actually now with the mayor, if we know we have huge water projects coming, Yep. we don't necessarily want to go uh we don't want to have to hit them with a 15% rate increase from one year to the next when we could have done maybe a five like dialed, you know, boiled it slower instead of just turning the gas on all of a sudden one year. Is that kind of what you're thinking or?

The applicant is requesting a zoning map amendment from A1 agriculture to light industrial, a preliminary plat and approval of the final platin development agreement. Site plan approval, conditional use permit for a building larger than 300,000 square ft, and a variance to allow a 45- ft front building setback on the south where 57t 8 in is required.

The packet kind of portrays the the lot as the culprit for why we need this variance. Um my rebuttal to that would be um if the building was smaller, you wouldn't need the bu the variance. Correct. Uh that would be correct. If the building was smaller, it would uh impact our ability to operate uh in the way that we've uh optimized I'm a stickler for uh setbacks just they're there for a reason and uh I have a little bit of an issue with that.

Uh estimated weight of the crossing the uh the device that we haul with plus uh the the product itself would be around uh 25,000 30,000 lbs. It's a lot more than I thought it would be.

U if that crossing is not approved, there is no deal. And I don't mean to sound too blunt, but there is no deal. Uh forget it needs that crossing. Otherwise, basically every site in the community is if once these go onto a truck, they can bring bring them anywhere basically.

So, um I would also like to see the hours pinned down a little bit. Um is one thing for long-term. So, I'm thinking so where I grew up, I grew up by a train uh track. So, but trains went through at a set time. Like we you knew when the trains were going to come. Um, and so and the trains took a lot longer than 90 seconds. Um, that's for sure. So, you knew when those trains were coming and you planned your drive accordingly. If it gets to that point, would it be possible maybe not necessarily to do overnight, but at least have a like this is the time so people can potentially plan.

I'm in the process currently of putting together the first quarter of next year for the duty crew schedule and going through that process. Um we have one firefighter um that's on leave that's part-time. Um he was lucky enough to get a full-time position um with another organization um still wanting to maintain his position here as well. Um and then I received another phone call from another part-time member that's also um been an existing member of the organization for some time um saying that he has some scheduling issues as well.

Again, I have an issue with this, Gary. Um, we've had this duty crew thing going for four months now. In that time, we've got no no reports other than the report you just supplied me this morning. This thing was dropped on us this morning. Um, and [clears throat] I tend to disagree with it. It's kind of an ongoing process where all of a sudden surprises come up. I would like to see some sort of report other than uh and I did not look at the uh call back times that you sent me. Sure. I don't even know what's on that. I haven't even opened it yet. This packet today was massive and yesterday and today were the study days. Um I personally would would rather table this thing and get a better look at it.

I'm going to comment with Scott that re was really looking for and I think uh Chief Astrip told us a couple meetings ago that that we would see some kind of report on how things are progressing with the with the duty crew and you know that the information you sent this afternoon I did take a quick look at the at those graphs but it just feels like this is kind of routine business and we shouldn't it shouldn't come to this way. This is, you know, we're challenged uh lately, well, not just lately, for the last 5 years, um with getting through a large volume of information in a couple of days. And this one to me, I think I would like to see a presentation from you or someone in the department about how the whole duty crew model is going. We This was a big change for us operationally and uh I would like to have a better comfort level with how it's working.