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EDA Meeting 5-20-2025

Dayton City CouncilTuesday, June 10, 2025
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30 EDA is uh in session. Before we get started, I'd like to recognize uh Juan Patray from Caterpillar is no longer going to be on our group. He has taken employment elsewhere, which means he can't be on this group because he is self-employed now. We have uh made a exit letter for him. Yep. which I want to make sure that we want to have a intake and exit letter for anybody who signs and joins this group that we show their appreciation and uh I want to make that an official policy. So, what do you guys think about that? Can I get a Can I get a motion on that? I'll motion that we It just means that they're thanking you for their service, but it's not just a cuff on a thank you. It's a actual piece of paper that they can hang forever on their wall. You okay with that? Yep. I'll second. All in favor? All opposed? Motion passes. Did Did he say he can't hear us? No, he's fine. Yeah. Okay. So, Juan won't be uh visiting us uh anymore at this point. Okay. So, we're going to need approval of agenda. Let's uh have some information on that. You guys like the agenda we got today? I'd like to add some things to it or a thing to it, which would be a uh we want to re add the spur to this because I hear there's some revisited information. Okay. Where would you like to add that? Let's keep that under old business. And then we covered the intake and exit papers for uh all commissioners on this board. Good to go. Approval of agenda. Make a motion. Second. I'll second. All in favor? I opposed. Thank you. Motion carries. Consent agenda. Approve of the minutes of 15, April 15, 25. Has everybody had a chance to get through that? And anything want to change? Look accurate? Yeah, it looks accurate. Approve. Motion to approve. Second. All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries. Consent agenda. Approval of minutes. Now, it wasn't uh Jack our treasur. Jack's the treasure and Juan was our backup treasure. Yeah. Okay. That puts it back on Scott. Well, well, we should probably put it on Super Dave here if you want if you want in. Would you be okay with doing that? Yeah. I mean, as an interim, Jack is still our primary. Oh, that's fine. Yeah, cuz now we had to scramble to find a new guy. Okay. Well, then we want to make sure that you just you're up to speed on our finances. Looks like you have a nice print out of that, too. Were you going to bring something up on that? Yeah. Okay. Well, is treasur support, you go right ahead and we can listen from from there. Sure. Well, I just and I don't know who can uh answer this exactly, but on the the um spending report that that we received, u it shows $9300 roughly of interest year to date and then it shows a negative balance of the same amount. I'm not quite following what that what that's telling us. Um yeah, that's a Zach question. That's going to be a Zach question. Yeah, I'm sure he he'll be here at some point. Yeah. So, we can ask Okay, we can ask we can bring it back up. Yeah, I just like to table for now then. Okay, I understand it. Yeah. Okay. Summary of non-residential inquiries, John. I think it's on you. Um, so we've already approved the consent agenda. Well, after we finish C. Okay. Um, that's true. So, uh, there's a report. We started doing this last month with just kind of inquiries that the staff is receiving for non-residential properties. Um, it's formatted a little differently than I don't have it on the screen than what it was last month, and we'll probably continue to to make tweaks on it until we find a system that works well. Um, as it's noted in the report, um, the user or the caller, whoever is always going to be anonymous until we have a land use application. So, this is just easier for us. Um, we have some people that are sensitive and some that are not. It's easier for us to just say treat everyone the same. Uh, the contacts are colorcoded to try to track what the the uh conversation strings are. So otherwise it's two pages of of uh phone calls and emails that don't make any sense to anyone but staff with it being colorcoded you can kind of see where uh you know the status is of how of what is the frequency of of um conversations that we have. So is this listing every contact then I see some of the same sounding projects on there several times. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the reason for the color coding. So um otherwise it would look like we get you know say 100 different contacts when it's only 10. Mhm. Okay. So any questions? Anybody? I just noticed um quite a few manufacturing facilities listed. I think that's really Yeah. Good. It it is. So, uh, DED and greater MSP is putting out a big push to attract more manufacturing companies to Minnesota. Um, and so when you see on the status where it lists Minnesota deed, that's a project where um, DED has pushed it out to the the different communities and we've responded to um, at least one of them in this case. Um, we receive it it's fairly infrequently, but it kind of comes in waves. So, in um the month of um April, I think there were three pro deed projects we're working on. Um sometimes we get a project that comes in or deed pushes out and like that's not going to fit in Dayton, so we're not going to go after it. Answer your question, Dave. Yeah. Okay. Well, let's have a consent agenda on this. We have approval of the consent agenda. Motion. Make the motion. Second. I'll second. All in favor? I. All opposed. Okay, we have one open forum here today. I think the second one in history of all eight years. Come on up. Not sure if I'm in the right place here. My name is John Williams. I'm at um 13620 North Diamond Lake Road. And this is in regards to the proposed bike path of the development for our front yard. as um we're aware we're our house Oh, I'm sorry. Our house is the most affected by this proposed bike path. Um it's anywhere from 10 to 30 ft as I understand it. It's going to be taken out from the front. My wife and I, we're not opposed to uh any of the city projects. Uh but we are concerned about the existing parking capacity of our house and it was brought to our attention that it might be best that we brought this to this forum here in regards to possible redevelopment of uh existing parking structures not knowing how much of our front yard is going to be taken out. So we don't know if this is H or if this is main council but we had the conversation and he's here just to make sure that we turn this on. regardless of where it ends up in in the city. Yeah. So, the EDA primarily deals with economic development versus trails. I understood that HR because we they want to redevelop this property to change lights and power and front yard and so I just figured if this is an H gig kind of we should be least on task. That's all this is about. Okay. Just open the door. Do does he need to know anything else? Do you guys need to know anything about what this is going on or just now that we have him on the record, he's got his fill out there? So, when is this proposed? Uh, we're not sure. I talked to um several people um Zach Dow and the mayor. He came by the house the other day and he discussed uh monetary compensations. We're actually interested in other forms of compensations um were not necessarily monetary. Uh we understand that uh our house when we bought it we didn't understand that the development was going to happen. So it's changing our thoughts a little bit. Uh few options that we have ahead is u dependent on how much it's going to be taken out. We don't know that yet. Anywhere from 10 to 30 ft is from what we understand. But we're willing to work with the city. We're not opposed to the uh system. is just bring it to this forum and forum might free up u possible options that we have in the future. That's all. Sure. Yeah. Might help. Are you uh east of uh Vixsburg or west of Vixsburg? Vixsburg. North. It's Northwood Northion to connect. Okay. Yeah. And you you had an answer on when it was going to happen, right? Or the proposed. Well, that's all we So, there's a few things here. the the project's under review right now. There's an alternate alignment being explored which would not extend along your property. Um more recently we're hitting troubles with land right acquisitions for the crossing itself which might affect the project also. So not sure if the project's going if it does not sure of the alignment yet. So um if I can get your contact info I'd love to go through the details with you. Um I can maybe get a copy. They'll need that. But um I can go through it in more detail where we're sitting with it and um what we're looking at and the likelihood. Okay, that sounds good. Okay. Anything else? No, that's it. You'll leave that right there if you want. Okay. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Thank you for coming in. Nice to meet you. Anybody online for open forum? Uh if you're interested in speaking during the open forum, please use the raise your hand function on Zoom. That thing on. If you're interested in speaking in the open forum, please use the raise your hand function. [Music] Is anybody on the Okay. Okay, we'll close open forum if there's nothing else. Old business, any updates on there besides adding the spur question back to that list? No additions. Um, flower pots, we've got three that are available. Uh we we pushed this out on uh Facebook and the city web page. Uh we've had a couple that have commented since that's been pushed out. So we still have three flower pots that are available. It's at $125 sponsorship. Didn't we buy those up last time? Didn't we agree to take them all? Um the direction from the EDA was for to push it out to the public before the EDA members. Um when's the deadline? There isn't one. So there's an exception for Dayton Wine and Spirits and Jack is being on the EDA and also having business in Oldtown. So he would be an exception. Okay. Well, if you want to push that forward, let's go ahead and I'll put uh one on there. Okay. Do you want to keep it open to the public before Oh, well, how there's no deadline. So, when do we start? It's up to the EDA. Okay. How about we just fill them up and when they they sell, they sell. Okay. Well, if you're buying it, they're going to sell. Like, they'll be sold. So, do do you want to It's up to the EDA. Okay. What do we want to do, guys? Want to buy them and come as first come, first serve? I mean, I'll I'll buy one at that point where they should They're already planted, so I don't think it matters that much. I mean, the three of us, if he's in, you're in. I'd be in. I mean, uh, let's let it just go till the, uh, June meeting and then, uh, if they're not filled, then let's just pull the trigger. They're already planted right now. So, it doesn't matter when they in place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's all done. So, we'll do it till June. And if not, three of us buy them up. You You okay with that, Sean? Yeah. All right. Let's do that so we can burn that up. Damage ban hug boxes. Any traction on that, Yan? Um, no. We're still limited on the amount of staff time that that we can put into it. So the plan is we would have um an intern from Stantech that would do this. Uh the there's costs associated with it. So uh the recommendation that we have for the EDA or the request is that you forward this to the council and have the council direct staff of whether we should pursue this or not. It's not just Dayton that's having this problem. Drive around Champ and see that. Oh, drive around anywhere. Yeah. I I think that it's a system they're just dumping and it is what it is and then later in life they just maybe they take them out. I don't know. Looks pretty bad though. Look at that. That's insane. But I do believe that our council has given us some teeth in this that if they don't want to play games then they can deal with that. So we do have announced on that if I if I believe so. Yeah, there there were a few options that I think I sent Aiden a while ago about how you can handle any of those. So So we got some tools in our box. Yeah. Okay. Sidewalk in front of uh the question though is I'm looking for direction from the EDA of you know again staff's recommendation is that you have the council uh direct staff to pursue this or not. And do we want council to take this over and keep running with it? And the reason why I say that is it's right away. The issue is a within the rightway ordinance. This isn't necessarily an EDA function. I see. As much as it is a council function. Okay, Scott. Yeah, we can certainly I mean I don't know if we're going to get any further and I don't have a problem with it. Well, I'm going to deal with it either way, but uh it seems to me if we're going to spend money to have Stantech go out and do this inventory, then that should probably come from council funds and so it should be council decision. So, do we need a motion on that you guys with with that or that we're going to set pass it over to make council? Is that what we need, John? Yeah. Yeah, you will. I I would motion that we do that. We're not getting anywhere here in 6 months. Yeah. Nothing. So, let's let's do that. Let's have a motion and we'll transfer transfer our B over to their agenda. All right. I'll second that. All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries. The utility damage boxes and let Sante handle it at the main council level. Is that the direction? Yep. Thank you. Okay. Sidewalk repairs, Oak Village. Uh I see right there they did some cutting on that one to keep it from tripping. Yes, I see in front of Jack's place. That looks pretty rough there. Is this another main council's question? Uh well, yes, but the sidewalk in front of Jack's store is Henipin County. Oh, so again in the staff report, uh when there's a difference in elevation by a quarter inch, um that would be repaired by the city. So the example on the right where we're grinding the sidewalk down because the trees pushing it up. We would continue to do that. Um the city's portion of the sidewalks are planned to be replaced in 2031. That potentially could include the removal of the trees that are causing the problem. So, there's an overall question of does the the is the fix worse than the repair. Um, that's not something that needs to be answered now. That that's a few years off. Um, Henipin County, as far as replacing the sidewalks go, I don't believe that's in a within the next 5 years. So, the sidewalk cracks will stay there until they get worse. I didn't hear a guy till right now. Did you know that? No, it makes sense. It's there right away. So, how does it work when it's pushed that far out, but yet it's a violation? Mhm. You're on the right. Yeah. You said over a quarter inch or gaps that are wider than a half, whatever. I read it in there. Yeah. We just grind this the concrete down. Okay. Well, I'm just trying to avert a trip hazard and that looks like trip hazards. Yep. So, on the left, if someone falls in that pothole there, they're they're calling the county and suing them. on the right, they're going to sue us. That how that lands. Yeah. Well, that seems kind of preemptive. Uh, doesn't it? But no way to fix it besides cut him down uh or replace it. Yeah. Okay. Thoughts on this? Fix it. Kind of what I was thinking. There's no fixing it for us. I wouldn't even talk to the county. If you're going to do it, just do it. I mean, you're talking about a a yard of concrete. So, what is staff looking for from me today at this? Nothing. Okay. I I guess my only question, this has been on the agenda for 3, four months. Do you want to keep it on? Well, let's just get it done. I mean, I would say just go ahead and fix it, but how do we push that button? I send it to the council. You want us to send this up to council as well? I mean, in my opinion, Marty could fix that in in a an hour, one morning, maybe two hours. I I see it as exposure and liability. Yeah. And Jack sees it as a income to his business, which now becomes a function of the EDA. It's now, you know, delighting the area, shall we say? To me, if you wait for the county, you're wasting your time. Mhm. Well, then we'll let it in line with our timing agenda, too. We got we got a parade coming up and if something happens then, I mean, I don't know how long the cracks been there. I'm guessing it's been there for years. Mhm. Okay. So, what do we want to do with this guys? We want to elevate it to the next level or do we want to see how fix it or how how do we proceed with this? I would say we move it up to council and see if they agree with us and if they want to move forward with some sort of fix, right? because they they have the money. Yeah. You know, I'll just mention the these are two examples that that photos that I took. They're not complaints from any of the property owners necessarily. The one on the left is okay. We have sidewalks all over the city. So, it I guess the question is, you know, are we fixing it as residents or business owners complain or are we doing it more proactive and for every sidewalk? I that's a council direction. We should have that discussion at the council. I mean, I lump it into the same approach that we're taking with roads that we are trying to maintain a certain level of condition and I don't know why sidewalks would be any different. I don't think we should have to wait for somebody to fall down or complain about it. We should take care of it. Yeah. To me, the public works should have some sort of a gauge on where's the problem. I'm sure we don't. And it's also, I guess, being proactive and fixing things as we see them versus letting them build up for 5 years and then all a sudden it's a huge expense. Yep. Like you said, Marty could fix something, him and his crew could do something in an afternoon and fix it versus waiting five years until it's a big problem. You looking for a motion here on this? Uh, sure. Okay. I guess we're going to push this up to council level and let them have that discussion so they can get it fixed and make that a motion. I make that motion. However, I I would say that we should be I I don't know there I'm assuming there'll be a council meeting between this meeting and our next CDA meeting. So, if we can get a report back on that as well, maybe on both the items. Okay. You would you would do that next? Yep. All right. Uh, all in favor? There's a needs to be a second. I'll second. Second. All opposed. Motion passes. Legislative bill updates. Who wants to do that? Uh, he Yeah, Mr. President, members of the easy Oh, dude, we can't. I know. Can't hear. All right, I will speak up. Um the uh looking through the uh existing bills that are within the uh legislature for the city of Dayton. Um at this time I have not seen any language included in uh omnibus bills that have been reviewed uh related to these five requests here. Um I know that uh from my understanding they are calling for a special session to wrap up the budget discussions here later this month. Um, and we will keep you posted, but uh at this time there has not been much change between last month's meeting and this month. So yeah, I my sources down there said that uh they have some much b much much stuff to handle first before they start pushing that button. I did make that call and I says, you know, whiskey tango, what's going on here? And he says, well, you can't get it past it if we can't get enough base of dollars. There's not even been talk of the cities getting any money until they get the budget straightened out, but he's still on task trying. That's the official word I heard from one of the guys writing the checks. So, to sum up what you just said, yes, we'll find out tonight, right? Is that tonight the last night? Last night was the last night. I don't know if they called the meeting or the special session for today or not. I don't think they've set a schedule yet for that. Yeah. Okay. Okay, but last night was basically the deadline at 11:59 and they didn't make it. So, that one of those last minute deals they throw it in there. Okay, moving on from the updated bills, new business. Uh, lent property. So, this is a discussion about a lent property concept plans. We have a couple of people, well, two, three people here from Stant. Um, and I'm gonna hand it off to Sarah. Can you can you hear me or do I need to come up there? It'd be easier. You can have more control up here. Please get really loud. Okay. The acoustics, you never know. You never know what the acoustics are going to be like. So, thank you for having me. Um, I'm Sarah Harding with Stantech. Um we were tasked with uh developing some highlevel conceptual ideas for the lent property uh and surrounding area um including the ref refund section which if you can see my cursor is the area in red along with this area that um is privately owned right now. How do I move there? Okay. So, we started with and I'm sharing just a few photos of the view from this parcel. Uh because when we're we started looking at this site, the um it kind of came to fruition that there's a great connection to the water. So, we wanted you to see the um photos here just just to familiarize yourselves with the amenity or the opportunity for an amenity space um because of that shallow connection to the water. Here's a view from Lent across um Roughlands to the river. And for kind of contextual purposes, uh this is the historic village framework plan that you have already seen. Um but um in blue we are looking at or this blue area on my cursor is the property in question. There's the survey. So, where we get into this is um we developed three bubbly kind of diagrams, ideas for what this space could be to really um uh make that connection to the W's edge and the Crow River and take advantage of that. Uh so um we've developed one that's looking more at larger group gatherings, event venue opportunities um where there's open space and unprogrammed access to the water's edge uh but you have an indooroutdoor venue. The second option is looking at um how can we make an a connection to the water but also provide um consumables or um uh needs of folks that are maybe getting on or off the water across the street at the boat ramp. Um get a bite to eat, get some ice. I don't know, some uses like that. Um that might be an outfitter. You might need a you know, things to a rental um or um items like that. But this would be more of a terrace building approach with indooroutdoor uses, deck space um and terraces leading down to the water's edge. With the third option, we call this the flex space catalyst. Um it's a lower um how do I say this? Um a lower capital cost investment. The buildings are flex spaces. They might have roller doors, but they're kind of a elevated um open air pavilion. There's um uh some because of the development in the flood plane. This whole parcel is in the flood plane. Um this would provide that flexibility and less impact to development in a flood plane because the it wouldn't be an insurable structure. Uh but this would give you opportunities to like have um rentals a space being rented out. Uh it could be open air markets or um a whole host of kind of like flexible uses. Doesn't kind of pin you down to say just a restaurant or just um a commercial a strict commercial establishment. And oh that's the wrong wrong way. So, uh, I think that's a high level just throwing some ideas out there for you. Um, I'm open to then comments, questions, discussion. Show me a picture of the one that does not include the property next to it. It would more resemble that. Like you think of the first one. This one. Is that the one? Okay. So, now where G is, that's the previous that's the current owner, correct? That's the G is the Refsland property. Y. Okay. So if if if we don't qualify for state funding, this is kind of a a path. Uh so we've had discussions of of p and we're going to talk more this in close session. All these three concepts include both properties, the EDA's property, the neighboring property. We have any concept plan that does not include the uh the neighboring property? No. No. Shouldn't we have one of those? Yeah, all all these three concepts require parking. If if we're going to just look at the EDA park EDA property, um that changes the function of the of the redevelopment plan where we're probably looking at maybe like an office or some some type of retail, not a public venue like this. Something, you know, something that doesn't generate traffic is what we'd be looking at. Um and I think kind of the my sense from the EDA is to look at something bigger than that. Well, we we couldn't anticipate the uh state funding level either at that point. So, that's why we were pushing on that number. EDA does have money. Okay. I have no other questions. How about you guys? You know, I find the u uh option two uh brewery outfitter. I'm not I'm not sold on the brewery, but I think the outfitter aspect of it goes good with the river and simply because I'm a fisherman. I've been up that river. You You can't get up that river. It this whole area is sort of landlocked by rapids. Now, canoes, kayaks, that would be just fine. And it seems like, you know, if that's a way to go, uh maybe a uh um cooperation with Champlain in their um Mississippi crossings to so that people can come to Dayton, rent a canoe or a kayak, go to Champlain, leave it there, you know, and uh and of course it's a win-win on both sides, you know what what we do up here with, you know, before they start, you know, is is uh is questionable because it isn't a flood point. What do you do in the winter? Well, you wouldn't do anything. I mean, you know, it's a tough sell to somebody here, put up all this this business, and then during the winter, that's what I agree. It's only a basically a 4mon business. So when they've got it highlighted as brewery/outfitter, it would certainly make sense that you'd have something to do in offseason. Yeah. If we could get people to come to Dayton for a brewery that'll show up and March to May if it's in a flood plane, you know, can that be mitigated? So your question to her was just that you were well I was just it kind of fascinated me you know it caught my attention and uh I I will just add that I think the thought process here was that um there's already a boat ramp and launch the outfitter could provide another opportunity for different kinds of um onwater access like canoe kayaks uh but there would be other uses in this space or food or beverages of some sort that um that could um accommodate um not accommodate but yeah accommodate the uses uh that people or needs that people might have when they're getting in and out of the water or they've been on the they've been fishing and they're like I'm hungry let's get some a gra a bite to eat um it's really close uh is there an opportunity to expand that into multi-seasons. Um maybe there's um with um fat tire bikes or rentals of that sort of type of thing in the winter time. I you know it's I there isn't a market analysis done at this point in time to be able to say what could be it's in the wind. It's a moving target. I got it. It's very it's very want to say it's a high level kind of get our ideas flowing. I mean, you could move move this up river, too. I mean, Monaceel, you know, to Dayton. I mean, it could be a whole Mon Monaceel, I believe, does have an outfitter. Um, we are working with the National Park Service on a water trail, uh, just a water trails, so somewhere to bike trail, but it's on the river. Um, that runs, you know, essentially from this point to LC Stevens and in Champlain and farther, you know, I think it goes all the way to Minneapolis. Um, so your point of, you know, having an outfitter here and, you know, stopping whether it's LC Stevens or at the uh Mil Pond in Champlain, I mean that that's another city, another conversation, right? Those are all possibilities. You think about Rockford, you know. Well, we got to keep moving on this. We got a close session. Yeah. Okay. For uh Thank you. Thank you. So, this this is your plan and and we need direction from you. I certainly personally I don't see any reason going after the other property without an idea and um my question would be that currently the piece that's owned now by the state by EDA we can't build nothing on that or as big as the garage. I think what the the not that it can't be built on, it's just that um if you're going for a space or a property that takes advantage of that water access, uh there is probably a draw of need and a need for parking to accommodate that draw. Um I think John you had said that you looked at maybe an insurance kind of a building or structure uh that wouldn't have as much vehicular activity or or um parking need um but that isn't a use that takes advantage of that water access. So this was an alternative to look at. Yes. So, the property the the lend property as it is, the only area that's above the flood plane is the garage, essentially the the upper garage. Um, if we're going to redevelop it, we're going to have to mitigate some of the flood plane. And the question is, how big of a structure would we build and how much of the flood plane do we have to dig out to compensate for that? So, we have the three concept plans. Um, I guess my question from the EDA is what do you want to do with it? Do you want to pursue it more or do you want to I don't know go start over again and look at a commercial use that doesn't generate traffic doesn't need the property. I think we should kind of wait until we see where we land with our with our funding. Now you say we have money in our account to do this. Yes. I don't want to hear any numbers. I just want to know that if we get this money and we actually take over this other piece, when do we start that negotiation? when directed. Okay, let's leave it right here for now until we find out where where funding is coming from. So, there is no direction yet. I want to put this in standby. Okay. And leave it right here for now. You guys agree with that? That's fine. Moving on. Let's go to let's take B 6B, new business forfeited property. I want to put that into my close session with AIG. Okay, attorney. We good with that? Yeah, I understand that AIG will be representing uh the um more like appraisal information and so that is appropriate for the full session. Okay. Mission statement. We're going to move this one. Anybody want to update our mission statement? I've been looking at it and kind of reading it and it's been old toothpaste style version. Just a quick update if we want to go and rewrite something update it uh quick and dirty. I mean we can yeah we can definitely look at it and we want to put suggestions in and then let let us pick it as a group. See which one we like the best. Is that what we want to do? Scott. Sure. I don't have a preference. Okay. I think it's good that that we update it. Kind of adds a little bit of edge to the other. They're seeing the same old thing and then have things change. So, we'll make an update. We'll present something to John and then we'll come back and vote on it. So, do we need a motion for that? Um, no. Cuz you're not do you're not taking any action. I'm sorry. You're not taking any action unless I mean so Tim you have proper proposed language now. Do you want to take action on that that we're going to change it? Yeah. We need action for that if if you want to change the mission statement. Uh I'm okay with changing it. I'm okay with changing now. We need a motion to change. Right. Motion to change as it's written on the as it's proposed. Okay. Okay. I'll second. All in favor? I. All opposed. Motion carries. We get Do we have eyes and nos's? You need four. Oh, okay. So, no. Um, I I took a quick look at it and I just was a little bit uncertain if that if it wasn't talking a little bit out of our scope. Um, I don't have a suggestion on what to change on it though. I didn't look at it that close. That the one I sent in. Yep. Okay. What What would you want to do? You want to leave it alone? Well, I don't think the one that we currently have describes what we do very well at all. It's kind of a general statement around around date. Yeah. The No pressure. Maybe the Yeah, I know this maybe the sentence I'm struggling with a little bit is we prioritize projects that align with infrastructure, land use, and long-term fiscal health. Is that aligned with the city's priorities or is that Mhm. this committee? Cities, I mean, our land use that's you guys set the land use, right? So what what do we mean by infrastructure that there's available infrastructure that well if we have well if we start building roads and we start building pipe in the ground and we start building I mean if if the infrastructure is there we'll build and we'll guide towards that take advantage of it like the railroads were yeah you want to change something you go ahead and switch that out just made the most sense I took all all them put it together and what are we what are we doing today? And we can table it too. We don't have to worry about this this time. Yeah, maybe give me a give me a little bit to let's table for next session. A little bit. Okay, we need a motion to for table. Motion to table. I second the motion. Motion table. Sure. Yes. Second. All in favor? I. All oppose. Staff board updates. What do we have? Uh, this came up the last meeting and and I apologize I wasn't here. Uh, postcard. So, the direction from the EDA was to send out a postcard uh to all addresses. Um, we did put a public a full page uh advertisement in Dayton Communicator. Um, I did want to wait a little bit and not send this out back to back and and then drop the ball on it. I guess my question for the EDA is, do you still want to send this out? So, it's about $1,800. Um, I'll note that depending on what the EDA chooses later in this meeting, uh, you're not going to have money to fund this program. So, I guess my suggestion is to hold off on advertising it, but it's already in the Dayton communicator. Uh, back in I think January or February? January it was. And will it be in the next one? if there's room and you'd like to advertise for it there there's no extra cost with it. I will say from the January um advertisement, we did get two inquiries. Uh one of those was from a business that would qualify but wasn't ready to apply for it. Uh the second was from a home business that wasn't uh qualified. I would say we just run it again in the communicator. That's right. I mean, we should take advantage of the communicator every time it comes out, right? There should be an EDA update and, you know, the citizens should know that there is a economic development authority in Dayton and what our mission statement is and uh and the projects we're working on. I mean, people are hungry for information about Dayton, especially with everything going on. Mhm. Especially Channel 5 News and 11 News. Yeah. We had all that stuff in in the world. So, if anything, now's the time you hit it hard to say, "Okay, here's where we're at." So, you want to just do the communicator for now? For now. I think so. Okay. Communicator. A little comm just a question, John. A few minutes ago, you said EDA had money, now all of a sudden it can't. Yeah. Well, that crossed my mind, too, but I didn't want to call him out on it. Depends on how you want to spend it. So, you know, I used to work with someone that said you can do anything you want, but you can't do everything you want. Yeah. Well, we wouldn't spend it down to the last penny anyway, but Okay, pause. That's fine. Well, I think the communicator, everybody reads it. You get a card from the EDA, you know how many people are going to throw it away as junk mail. Mhm. Or not read it. But this is a specific goes in your hand. We'll just pause it for now. Okay. Uh Dayton White garage sale uh the first weekend in June, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Um what else? Uh moratorum. The council adopted moratorum in I'll say the south portion of Dayton. So this is generally speaking the 13th Avenue industrial park. Um we've got a a concept plan that was reviewed for a large industrial building. a question came up on the street orientation and so the council's direction was to kind of pause development within that area and figure out the road corridors um and as well as the land use. Um so the moratorium goes from April until October. Um there'll be more news on that within the next month or two. Okay, any questions on that? Ready? uh planning commission vacancy for anyone that may be interested. Uh the commission has a vacancy as well as the EDA. Um I'll just make a note that uh Juan's uh resignation will go to the the next council meeting assuming the council accepts it. We'll post it for the EDA vacancy. Generally, we we try to wait for a month before uh filling it or a month before a point. Well, as a legacy, we might have his new replacement to take his spot here too and finish his term. So, we have that option as well, like King Solutions did with uh Yep. Yeah. Okay. So, they that person would have to be appointed though, correct? Yeah, I get you. Okay. Close session. Wouldn't anybody that gets um accepted into that position now be finishing the term? Uh yes. So Juan's term expires in December, but yeah. So it' be a you call it a six-month uh term. Okay. Close session. Ready? Yep. Pursuant to Minnesota State Statute 13D.05 05 subsection 3 C3 close session shall be conducted to develop or consider offers, counter offers, and purchases of sale or resale of personal property located at 18771 Robinson Street. P number 36 221 2341 0020. Close session is now in Our next EDA meeting will be on Tuesday, June 17th, 7:30 a.m. We have a motion to pull the pin. I do have one question just for clarity with what with again with the uh concept plans review. The direction was to just hold off on it, not bring back anything until he gets us some good solid numbers on the secondary use. All right. Do you want uh standby? Do you want another plan for the secondary use? Just an L-shape? Yeah. To Scott point or plan B? I think you should. Okay. What do you guys think about plan B on that? Yes. Okay. You guys I think it makes sense what he's doing, but I I don't want to spend eight grand on it. I think you already spent eight grand. Hey, what do we get for 450? Start negotiating. Uh we should have some high level concept plans for or plans low level low level not very high. Oh no. Well it certainly would give us the option of making decisions plan B. It makes sense. Okay. So yes. Do we have to vote on that? No. No. Just some direction. Yeah. So L only. Yep. Motion to adjurnn. Motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. All in favor? I take some aspirin. We're out of here.