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August 19th, 2025, 7:30 a.m. The EDA is now in session. Call to order. Approval of agenda. Do we have a motion for approval of agenda? >> I'll make a motion. >> Do we have a second? >> I'll second motion. >> Either that one, Hayden. >> Yep. >> Uh Dave. Okay. >> All in favor? >> I I >> All opposed. The agenda passes unanimously. Consent agenda for today. Anybody got any questions on that part A through E? >> No. >> Approval of the consent agenda. We need a motion. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I. All opposed. The consent agenda passes unanimously. Open forum. Hayden, tell me there's just somebody watching online or something. >> There is nobody online other than the gentleman who's going to be giving the presentation later. Excellent. Oh, look at that. That looks like this chair. And we'll move on from uh open forum old business. Now, I do have something to say here about number five. Um, we have a meeting with Semstone on the railroad spur and it's coming up at the end of the week. I will be in that meeting. If anybody would like to assistance, John, please feel free to let Yan know that this is who you want to go with. We're going to talk just some basic stuff at the Dayton plant. Somebody wants to join in, jump in, by all means. >> Will there be a representative from the BNSF at there at there? >> I don't believe it is. I think it's just concept high level. Do you want to have one here? Do you not? If that's if that's what I'm thinking. >> Yeah. And then if they've got any idea of a potential timeline, they'd be able to share that with with the city. So, I think it's more of just a factf finding thing about their interest and what level of interest that is. Well, I think it's kind of a blow up the skirt phase to get everything kind of rolling, isn't it? >> Sure. Yeah. >> Yeah. We've been waiting for this in a long time. >> And we know that uh the railroad would just love to put a spur in for them. >> Yeah. We just got to see who's writing checks. I think we got to take Zach's personal fund. >> To sell the big shiny pickup. Got to get a different one. >> I owe you works. Great. >> You buy her little dots and drive around. Okay. Hey, does anybody else want to talk about this here on besides the roads for DD? >> One item I do want to bring up to the um EDA chair and members of the EDA is the EDA budget for 2026. I know there was a request for 100,000 I believe made by the EDA back in June um with budget cuts and things that are going on just overall with the levy. Um, it is proposed to have a $25,000 levy next year just to cover operating expenses for the EDA since the EDA is operating and doing things now and it's important that we make sure we're not taking out of reserves to operate the EDA overall. So, that has been the request in front of council. There'll be further discussion obviously with council level, but just want to make sure that the EDA is aware that there's a $25,000 request for tax levy for next year for your budget. So, that's where we're at right now. I stand for any questions if you have any. >> When does that get approved? Um yeah, so the high level preliminary levy set in September, the final levy set in December. Um basically we can't go up from there. We can re rearrange the furniture essentially. So we can take money out of one fund and put it to the other fund, but we can't raise the overall levy above X number once we set it in September. So >> ask for 100 got 25. Is that that clear? >> That's what I ask for 100 maybe get 25. >> That's where we're at right now. Okay. >> Yes. We all understand. >> Mhm. >> Yes. >> Yes. Anything else on old business? Jump into the new business. Okay, new business it is. Uh, demonstration Placer AI software. Has anybody had a chance to dig into that? Cuz I looked a little bit but I didn't have no access. Yeah. Hayden, what is the main function of this Placer software? So, you guys know. >> Well, um, let me see here if I can pull up. John had uh scheduled this together here and uh Adam from Placer AI is going to give kind of an overview of a presentation on what the potential capabilities are and how something some place like the EDA or even just the city of Dayton in general can utilize Placer to benefit um economic development circumstances within the city. Um a lot of it is uh datadriven uh travel uh statistics about where people are going, where they're coming from. Um and uh understanding really um to me one of the benefits or one of the good things that Placer is able to do is track where residents are traveling to go shopping, where are they going in Maple Grove, where are they going in Champlain? um to try and understand what are those things that could potentially be closer in the city of Dayton to have residents shop here rather than travel to other cities. Um so that's kind of just a really high level and obviously Adam's going to give a better um Adam's going to give a better uh better thing here um over this. So >> is he on with us? Adam, are you there? >> He's on. Yes. Let me turn on the volume here and he will take it away. >> Hey Adam. >> Hey. How's it going? >> We are doing quite well. How about yourself? I'm doing great. Um, I appreciate you all for letting me crash the meeting this morning. Um, I have had a couple conversations with John, but again, my name is Adam. I'm an account executive over this region. I'm super excited to show you guys the Placer platform today. Just a quick question before we jump in. Is anyone familiar with with Placer AI at all? >> Uh, I am. >> Okay. Amazing. Um, I'm thinking for an agenda for today. What I'll do is I'll start off by giving some highle background on Placer. Um who we are, what we do, how we do it, and then we can jump in the platform and I'll share how our current civic customers utilize the platform. Um as well as show you some of the data we can provide for any specific um property or location if that's all right with you guys. >> Yeah, sure. >> Perfect. Sounds good. I'm going to go ahead and just share my screen real quick while I give us some background on Placer. Promise I will not PowerPoint you guys to death. Just want to have um a little visual up in the background here. Can you guys see my screen? All right, >> just fine. >> I'm going to try to make you bigger, Adam. Give me one second here. See if I can make >> a little more decibels, too. >> You want to turn it down or up? >> Up. >> Little more decb. >> Okay, >> there you go. Give Yeah. Give me one second. I don't know how to make this green see how I I might not be able to I don't you >> no I see >> way at the bottom Adam I see I see about a half hour on this presentation you might have to put it to the woods because we got a lot of stuff to cover after you could you make that >> yeah I can I can be super quick you're good Adam thank you very much >> yeah perfect won't take up the whole 30 minutes I promise I'll be quick here but uh place at we're a location analytics company. So what we're doing is utilizing mobile location data in order to provide market intelligence for any physical location in the US. We do that by harnessing data from millions of mobile devices. We then aggregate the data extrapolate out which allow us uh to learn about any place whether that's a retailer, a shopping center, a neighborhood um it could even be a road street or highway. Not only do we tell you how many visits these locations receive, um we also can tell you where the visitors come from, where else they work, um where they like to go. To simplify it down, we're partnering with mobile apps. So, think of a weather app or even a sports betting app as an example. Um once those location services are enabled, we're then able to anonymously analyze these devices in the background 24/7. Um we're not collecting any personable information. um we don't know whose phone it is. We're just studying the latitude and longitude of these devices once they opt into our panel. And through our app partnerships, we've built our own panel of about 30 million mobile devices. Um and we are now the leading data provider for over 4,500 customers. About 1,700 fall into what we call our civic space. Um loads of customers across Minnesota such as the city owner to leave, Livingington, Adena, St. Francis, West St. Paul. Um, a bunch of EDOS's, uh, quite a few chambers and DMOs as well in the area. Um, I know I just threw a lot at you guys. Any questions on Play Store and how we get our data? >> Negative. >> Well, uh, I have one question. How does a person Why would a person download the app and opt in? >> Yeah. So it for example um you know when you have like a weather app on your phone and you just have to have those location services on >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So what we do um we spent before we started selling commercially we spent 7 years um building our panel and um as well as our algorithm but again like we're not collecting any personal information. Um we can't tell whose phone it is at all. Um what we've actually done is we have exclusive onetoone partnerships with these apps. um they only partner with us, we only partner with them. And what we did is we embedded a piece of code um within the app that allows us to just ping the latitude and longitude of that device um 24/7, but again um no privacy or no um personal level information collected. Um we're in full compliance with all the privacy regulations. It actually keeps us future proof as well. >> Okay. Okay. So it's not your app. You're basically coattailing on all these other >> correct. Okay. >> Correct. Yes. We we have these partnerships with uh multiple um mobile apps. It's not our own app. >> Makes sense. Okay. So, when you click the okie dokie, let's say you're on the Corona app and they say we will share with third party vendors. You're a third party vendor >> essentially. Yes. Essentially, >> that's well that's the correct idea of exactly what we're doing there. >> You're you're not asking, you're just you're just joining. So you got you got to turn the app store double double for those opt. So once once they opt in and we just happen to be a partner with that app um we're then able to um analyze that device. >> Understood. >> Cool. Any other questions guys? >> Nope. >> Awesome. Let's jump into the platform. So what we're taking a look at right now is Placer's homepage. Um I like to compare it to Google Maps. We can take a look at any address or property in the search bar and what will populate is data for that specific location, right? It could be a park, a event center, um the downtown district, even a whole city or county as a whole, anywhere you regularly want to see data on. Um it would all appear within this area of the platform. And then I just want to zoom in really quickly or we can go to for example. Let's zoom in on Dayton, shall we? >> Yeah, let's do that really quick. I do have a property loaded up. Me and John were discussing a potential development site that I can >> I don't really care about South Dakota. >> Oh, he's the you guys are >> no activity. Got it. Okay. So, for example, um when I zoom in here, I just want to show you how easy it is to create like a geo fence. So, as I hover over, for example, this bar and grill, um, this blue little box represents what we call a geo fence. Um, we can go in and create a fence around any specific property, and we're actually able to, uh, count foot traffic and visitation. Once a mobile device crosses over this fence, for example, if you wanted data on the fly for any specific location, you can actually just come in here um and create these polygons um these geo fences and capture data on any specific location on the fly. Just like that. And then when I pop open a property report, for example, we're going to use location um John and I discussed um that development site over on Dayton Parkway and uh County Road. Um, what you're going to see here when this loads up is data from the last 12 months in terms of visitation. However, we have historic data. So, we can actually take a look at data all the way back to January of 2018. And it's near real time. So, we only have a 3 to 4 day lag period as well. A bunch of different filters we can take a look at. We can take a look at employees, residents in the area going to the property, a specific day of the week, specific hours, how long they were there. Um, if you want to hone in on the tourists, we can also do that by filtering the home or work distance. Coming down to impressions, this is going to show us that we're seeing um, 1 million visitors, resulting in 6 um.4 million visits to this specific location. Um, which is showing us that people are coming quite often more than once, about six times. And it looks like it's um, up over year three, year two, and um, the past year as well. Coming down to this trend chart right here. This is going to show us all that on a daily um a weekly or a monthly frequency. Um in practice, our current customers use this feature for even estimating tax revenue. Um and then for economic development, it's a great way to like benchmark any properties growth um the traffic there, the success against any competing locations as well. You can even highlight the potential or the benefits of a site um or properties in your city by showing um stall visitation on a trend line as well. As we click into one of these spikes, it's actually going to show us what was going on that day as well. So, we can see what visitation looks like. If there was an event um nearby as well, it would populate here. Um but just great to understand was um you know, there's some sort of outdoor event. Did a new retailer open up nearby that caused an increase in traffic? Um, also in terms of um, grants, one of our customers um, was actually able to take this types of data. Um, they showed the amount of people that were coming from over 90 mi away and um, correlate the sales tax revenue that was generated from these people coming um, over 90 mi away, showing an economic impact of about $52 million for the region. um they were able to secure a grant from the state of Arizona for about $200,000 to continue funding events they were holding at this location as well. Let's jump over to trade area. So now we can um start to understand how many visits a location receives. What this heat map is showing us is down to the census block level of where people are coming from. Um, so the red's indicating the top 20%, blue is the bottom 20%. But as I zoom out here, um, it's going to help us understand, you know, the true market landscape. You know, where you guys are drawing from all the way down in Chicago, uh, North Dakota. Um, but just great to understand what that looks like. We can even filter it by minimum amount of visits if you want to take a look at the regulars coming to this specific location. And then um for economic development um it's also great to just you know show a specific site, show the true expanse of the trade area. You know how far people are willing to willing to come to visit this location. Coming to visitors by origin. Um we break it all down by zip codes. So what we're doing here is we're showing how many um visits are coming from each specific zip code. We can take a look at this on a year-over-year change as well to see where visitation may be increasing or decreasing in a specific zip code. Um, we can also compare this with two different uh two or more retail locations. For example, if you guys were looking to recruit a retailer in um and highlight any leakage or even uh cannibalization in the area where um residents may be leaving to another city to go to a specific retailer. Um great to for marketing as well. Um, marketing teams love this section to essentially understand visit behavior and trends. Um, as well as measuring the impact of any initiatives you do. And then coverage by distance is going to show us how far people are willing to travel to get to a location. So, for example, we can see majority 36% are coming from 10 to 30 m away here. I know I'm kind of flying through this guys. Any questions at the moment? I know I'm throwing a lot at you. >> Who has access to this if we were to purchase it? Yeah. So everyone um for the whole department would actually gain access um to the platform. You guys would have unlimited loginins. >> Define that. >> Yeah. So for example um for is this for just are you in terms of like the economic development department? >> We have seven in front of you right now. Can I all seven of us access this? >> So everyone all of each of you would have your own um login. you have your own personal um email login as well as password um to the to the platform and you'll be able to run as many reports as you'd like. Um with this you will be able to run your reports but I will I will say that you get a dedicated customer success manager as well as myself in the region. So we're able to build out analysises for you um run reports for you if you don't have the time but again you can come in here and pull as many of these as you'd like. >> Next question. >> Yeah. >> Will police and fire have access to this? >> No. So that is the one thing um police and fire we can't give them login um but you're able to of course share reports with them um for example we just have strict guidelines in place where we can give them their own personal login >> I'd be worried that this would become weaponized and if somebody wanted to hold an event in town >> exactly >> oh I'm not laughing dude that's pretty real stuff so if someone want to hold an event in town they had 199 people there >> and all a sudden we got data says different that that would become weaponiz Isn't it? >> Oh, I hear you. I I miss heard that. Yeah. No, that makes sense. So, exactly. Yeah. So, you can share um you know, reports. It's great for events, right? If you rent run events, we have cities um utilizing this data to plan for an event. How many police officers or security guards should they hire for specific events? So, we have cities um and teams doing that on a on a regular basis, but um we can't give police or fire their own login. are are cities using it for analysis of traffic and you know in terms of like I'm thinking infrastructure for roads and different things like that. I mean, is it how how as an example versus having putting the uh rope across the road or whatever and counting how many cars go up and down Dayton River Road or whatever, would this be an alternate and maybe more accurate and you could look at history and there just seems like I don't know if it's that accurate, but there could be a lot more data than throwing a rubber cord across the road and counting traffic like we do. >> Yeah. Method, right? >> For example, um we always know how many people are in that car and then um the cool thing about us is we can tell the whole story, right? So we can tell where they're coming from um you know where else they've been throughout um that day or that year. For example, um what I was going to show you guys next is uh visitor journey. So it's actually going to break down where people were directly before and directly after they visit a location. So again, like in addition to a traffic counter, um, we can we can paint a bigger picture. >> So is there is there a there's got to be some margin cuz not everybody has this. So there's got to be some algorithm in the background that says and that must change over time. So how do you get any type of accuracy if you know you only have a percent of the population? >> That's a great great question. So um, that was going to lead me to my next point. So before we we work with all the big retailers, sports venues like Best Buy, Target, um before they come on board, they really put us through the ring on accuracy. They know exactly how many people are going into their stores. They use door counters. For example, um before we brought Best Buy on, they sent us 30 different locations, um back tested our traffic data with theirs. We came back um between 97 and 98% accurate. Um and again since we built our algorithm um 7 years before selling commercially um we're able to extrapolate the data out and account for the entire US population even though our panel size is only 30 million but um we do really hone ourselves on that accuracy a portion of it coming in between 97 and 98% accurate. Any other questions at the moment? >> Nothing. Go ahead. We got to keep moving. >> Perfect. Yeah. Um I know we are coming on time. So real quick, I just want to share um we do have demographic data. So again, um since we're able to monitor these devices 24/7, 365, we actually know, hey, where do these people live that are visiting since we can study those patterns? Um we have a ton of third party data sets we can layer on our own demographic data. Um for example, we have census. Um but what I wanted to show today was market outlook. Uh me and John talked a little bit about this one as well. Um it's a third party data set that we layer on top of our foot traffic data. What this is showing us is what total demand and total supply looks like in the area. Um so for example um we can click on gas stations. This is going to show us um what that unmet demand looks like and what that supply currently looks like as well. We can see there's a ton of unment demand in the area for gas stations. Um we can even take a look at restaurants. Um do the same thing. Um great to understand um for economic development teams as well like if you were looking to develop a site um our demographics helps them highlight the true potential and match of actual demographics uh to a specific retailer. For example, if you knew what retailer you'd like to place in that site, you can essentially match up the demographics and see if they align and will be a good fit um with that site. Real quick, jumping over to visitor visitor journey. We show exactly where people were before and after they went to that specific location. We can see 5% were at Quick Trip. Another 7% were at Quick Trip right after they hit the location. Um, again, we don't just give you the top five. We actually break this down in 74 different pages. So, we can get really granular. We can filter it by categories. And then coming down to favorite places. Um, what this is showing us is where people also spent time that year. So, in addition to where they were before and after, we can show you where else they spend time that year. Um, we can filter this by any specific category. For example, dining. We can see Raisin Canes is a huge hit. Um, 2.5 m away over in Maple Grove. Um, cool story here. We were working with a city that was looking to attract a McDonald's. They thought it was a best fit amongst their residents through our favorite places. We actually helped them see that Chick-fil-A was a bigger hit. people were willing to drive over 15 miles um to get to Chick-fil-A in a nearby city. It helped um this team go and recruit a Chick-fil-A um as well as fill that vacancy and it's now one of the top performing locations in the region. Um and then last thing I wanted to share with you guys is our void analysis feature. So before we started breaking out into other industries, um we really started out in the commercial real estate space for the first um 4 years, what this uh tool was built for was actually for identifying ideal tenants um to a specific location. So this is essentially a tool that has over 1,700 chains available. It's continuing to expand over time. Um but for example, what this is showing us for the specific site is it looks like a hotel would be a great fit here. Um based on the drive time, nearest location um cannibalization. Um for example, we can click into this Hyatt, come down to the match analysis, and it's going to tell us exactly why this Hyatt is a great fit for this site based on who's going there. We can see the demographics align almost perfectly at 94%. um little to none um cannibalization. The nearest height's over 25 miles away. Um we can even customize the square foot size, which I didn't do cuz I don't know the exact square foot for the site, but for example, um we can put an exact square foot size and it will tell us what we should put there based on that. And then again, just break in all the demographics down here. >> All right, I know we are short on time, guys. That is the quick um you know, highlevel version of Placer. There's a lot more we can do, a lot uh gr more granular we can get. Happy to run more analysis for you guys, but um would love to just hear your feedback, any thoughts you guys have, any overlaying questions at the moment. Um I really appreciate you letting me come on here. >> What's this cost? >> Yeah, so it in terms of cost, um Sean and I did discuss, let me see if I I didn't bring a proposal, but let me see if I can pull it up real quick. We base on population. So, for an economic uh development organization, we'd essentially base the cost on the population you guys are serving >> in the city, so to speak. >> Yes. >> Okay. Well, let's give them a number. >> So, what do we got? 7,000. >> You guys have a number. I can try to pull it up really quick. >> 9,000 11 >> 11 >> annually, >> huh? >> Annually, >> let's go with 11, Adam. 11,000 >> between 10 and 11. >> Okay. So 11,000. So yeah, it would be around um 15 annually. Um but again like you guys get myself and a customer support um manager or customer success manager that's essentially serving as your adviser. They're helping you get ROI out of the data. Um they're able to meet with you weekly, bi-weekly, um really whenever you need any analysis or report or any questions. You're not just calling an 800 number. for their named individual in the region. So, um they're there to make sure the business succeeds as well as provide support um throughout the process. And again, yeah, it is a one-year annual subscription, but if we want to talk like 2 to threeear agreements, um there's ways we can u discuss potential discounts. Um I'm also happy to, you know, get creative um prove out the value here and, you know, if that number um we can always discuss more in depth um with pricing as well. >> Thank you, Adam. Uh I appreciate that. Looks like an excellent tool. However, I'm of the of the feeling that it it could be absolutely powerfully and absolutely abused. So, for for that reason, I I don't know if I would ever support this. Okay? >> And uh I again, as an EDA, I think it's an excellent tool. But you you you can't control this genie in this bottle. And and if this starts getting out where people start using this in different fashions, which would be pretty easy and and where it tells where people live, it tells it's a pretty big brother deal for me. And and I'm I don't even care about the big brother thing, but this one's really Yeah. So again, in terms of for people where they live, we don't we don't know their actual, you know, address. We can't we can't identify any mobile device. Um again we're just showing like the general um latitude and longitudes um of down to the block level right of where these devices um we're studying patterns essentially. So we we can't actually identify um the individual. We don't want to do that either. We don't collect any personal information. We really ignore ourselves. >> I get that and I heard you loud and clear. But I also heard you said when you said uh we can tell you where these people live by a BC ID in their phone. >> So >> essentially down to like the block level is what I was meaning since we can study those patterns um it allows us to lay the data data accurately on like the census block level to capt make sure we're not capturing you know any false um data there. >> Well that that's my opinion you would asked anybody else >> I think we should just talk about it but um >> yeah thanks for the presentation. >> Thank you very much. Yeah, I think it's very interesting. >> Okay, Dave, >> thank you guys so much. Have a great rest of your day. I appreciate the time. >> Thank you. >> I mean, I do agree with you. It's big brother, but I mean everything that everything that's happening out there is big brother. So, it's just whether we want to use this. >> Would we want the city in a position where we could see anything everywhere every time? and and uh from the looks of our council over there, it kind of look on on her face was like uh kind of scary. [Music] >> Uh so >> turn it on. >> I'm not sure where I'm not sure where this uh software came from, but the litigation risks the data the because keep in mind government data is thought of differently than private data. you all are able to access something that's considered government data. Even if it's created by a third party, I don't even know where to go with all of the risks to this city to do something like this. They're impossible to count the ways that that we would be wrapped into costly costly things. Whether that's a data request or litigation, never mind a data breach. We're obligated to notify everybody of a data breach. >> Um I I'm sort of at a loss for what to say because it's just absolutely not an appropriate tool for government. Full stop. >> Okay. But it is it is used. Um we saw this a couple years ago. Mindot came to one of the council meetings and presented on the improvements they were going to make on Highway 10 and the study they'd done and they had data just like this. They were telling us how many people were on 101 um going north on a Friday afternoon, how many of them were going to Home Depot, how many of them were going to Cross Lake and all of that. So that's all that's been out there for years. >> I can see it. >> I understand the concern. It's kind of weird creepy stuff to me. My my concern is the liability to the EDA and then therefore the city based on the program he he talked about. If Mandot had them build some sort of smaller scale thing that simply counts vehicles, obviously that's already been done, you know, with the counting strips and if this is an easier or more efficient way to do that, I'm sure there's a way to ratchet it down and get just much smaller chunks of data, but that's not what he was talking about. Um and so from from what he presented that this presentation that that particular product is absolutely not appropriate for for government. It's just not I mean there's certainly potentially some sort of other ent government governmental entity that could make an argument but from what we're talking about not not appropriate. Although an excellent tool, >> sure for the private market for the private That's a great tool for the private market to do their research to figure out where they should put their store. >> Yeah. >> Whether you want a Chick-fil-A or a McDonald's, >> right? >> We both of them. >> And I'm certainly not promoting this, but he did mention Adena, so you can tell he's not from here, but that they were one of their customers. And I just wonder if it's worth finding out how they're using it or how they're addressing some of these kind of concerns. >> Could it be ratcheted down to a tool that would be acceptable? I don't know. I I get your point. I >> I set the stage. Who has access? We all have access to it. Which would I do? >> We all have passwords. What's to say someone don't want to come in and hey, I want to know how many people were at this thing. Not just car. I just use that as a as an eye roller for you. Okay. wasn't just me. >> And that's the point. Okay, how many were there? Well, you're out of compliance or you're out of this. And if it turns weaponized, which is a flick of a finger for somebody, we're we're we're responsible for that as a as a group. Are we not? >> Well, yeah. I mean, >> everyone, >> there wouldn't be a situation where I would say that that you all would be able to have passwords and access. It would need to be run through city staff. That's a whole another component that does not work for how this body is set up because not any single one of you has the authority to go in there and do that. Right? Collectively as a group, you can have that authority but not individually. I I'm I'm sort of at a loss for words for how to react to this because it is so unbelievably inappropriate for the EDA and this this body. I I don't know where this idea came from and I'm really sorry if if it was one of you and I'm raining on your parade. I apologize for that. But this the the legal implications of this cannot be overexaggerated. >> Well, it looks like they've been very successful in moving forward with their platform. I mean, uh, is the city of Dayton interested in this or is it only been presented to the EDA? Yes. Um, member Anderson, it's it's been it was presented to us about a year and a half ago or so as a staff level of, hey, this is something that came out. Is this something that' be interesting to you? The time we had budget constraints. There was no way we're going to be able to do it last year. Um, and we said, okay, maybe we could essentially punt it a year and see what it looks like and and see what that kind of system is more or less. Um, we thought it was a good tool for us to try to attract different businesses. That's where it was looked at. It wasn't looked at to weaponize people or to try to figure out, you know, what can we jam in this spot. It was more like, hey, we have interest in this location. We have some a land owner that's looking to, you know, move on and they're they're look to us to help them. Essentially, what they look to us to do is how do you what do you want here? What do you have here? So, that would be an idea from city staff level of what can we put there? Um, I'll use the example of the Stenley property down off of 81. Um, they've asked us to help them. What do you want here? It's a mixeduse land use, so it can pretty be much anything. And we said, "We don't know. Whatever you guys want to put there is what we'll just we've talked about town homes, talked about apartment buildings, we talked about industrial buildings there. All of which are applicable in different means. Um, but they look to us to help them and we can't help them any more than they can because we don't know any more information than their yer does." And so this is a tool that we thought about that came about again about that same time that could help us help them move forward with whatever they're looking for. For example, he used the Hyatt as an example. This is a good spot for the Hyatt. I never would have thought to put a Hyatt there ever because it doesn't sound like a good spot to me or it looks like a good spot, but what do I know? I'm just a city admin. So, >> well, there's no doubt this is an excellent tool. >> Yeah, correct. So, that's where it was brought up at city level, but there was just no way to do it. appropriate for say like the our land broker. I can't remember the MCI >> I see for us to suggest that they >> acquire it and use it to help us place things. >> Yeah, that's exactly what we would do is if that was the case. We've had a conversation with AI I A about this overall and they said that they would be willing to do that for us if they have that software. I'm assuming they already do, >> but I don't I don't know that for a fact and we can have them run whatever. I think that would curb some of the comments that Amanda has and concerns about the public data thing because if we're requesting the data, then anybody can request it. So, if we get one thing about what's the best spot for here and they give us a report, that's all public data. So if somebody else wants to have that, which we're happy to give out, it at least limits that area because if everyone's running a different report and then all of a sudden now we have six different reports or 12 different reports or whatever of what can be best in the location or what's needed there. Now we have six or seven different public data requests. We have to save that data for I don't even know how long. Depends on depends on what the record retention schedule is. So if we have somebody else do it to your point um member Bernins is that that would be appropriate for us to say that. I mean that seems like it could make sense. >> That was that was kind of our >> level of anonymity too. If IGA runs it and we're not in that position, >> correct? Then we could say what's best for this location, have them run the data, give us a report back, hand happy to hand it off to the EDA, here you go. Here's the information and then, you know, help us facilitate something so that way you guys are going out in the community and >> and they may use someone different than this place or AI. I mean, it doesn't matter. >> This one is by far the most popular from my understanding. >> And it's not like I'm against this. I'm certainly not against I am pro this all the way. What I'm what I'm against is the fact that if anybody can get it, it can be used in nefarious ways and and and we shouldn't put ourselves in that position as a city cuz there's always just somebody who's going to call us after hours and say, "Hey, run this. I want to see what what goes here." And then you got access to it. And all a sudden you're at that all over the all over the city. >> So I'm uh I like the idea. >> It exists no matter what. Whether you like it or not, it exists. >> It's out of the bag. >> Yeah. I mean, it's not like it's hidden. It's it's there and it's it's crazy to me. But um yeah, I said I think that would be the best option if we had to at this moment. I think it'd be best for us to run it through IIA at at this moment. >> Do we need a motion on this or anything? >> No. >> Okay, let's move on. Everybody else done on this? >> Yep. Yep. Okay, we've got uh Esper close session 805 to pursuant to Minnesota statute 13D05 subsection 3C or 3C3 close session will be conducted to develop consider offers and counter offers to purchase of real estate or real estate property located at 15520 Lndale Lane North Dayton Minnesota P 05120 2222003 Three. We are in close session. >> Motion in a second. >> I need a motion. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> All opposed? >> Motion carries. >> Close out until I get I think we go to the table on this guys. >> Amanda, you said September 15th for the >> All right, we're back in open >> the full meeting is back in session. >> Yeah. >> Okay. As pursuant to the purchase of P 05120220003, we need a motion to purchase. >> I'll make a motion to purchase. >> We have a motion from Scott and we have a second from Sean. All in favor of purchasing this. >> I. >> All opposed. >> Motion carries. Now, we're going to go back into a close session here. Uh do we need a motion for close session? We need a close session for the second part of this equation. I'll make a motion to go into close session. >> Okay. Second. >> I'll second. All in favor? >> All opposed. We are back in close session. >> We are back in session. >> We exit the close session and we are now talking about a solution for staff to move forward with the purchase agreement. Right. and get this on the >> schedule of public hearing >> next schedule and also have the uh meeting the um public meeting public >> Sean's going to make >> public notice I think >> and that's a motion I believe >> Sean >> Sean's going to make the motion >> yeah so yeah I'll make a motion that um we authorize staff to move forward with the purchase agreement on the property and then we can direct staff to proceed with any necessary public hearings that we need to have >> I'll second that motion >> all in favor I >> all opposed. Motion carries. Next item, >> staff and boards update. As soon as the staff updates, Aiden. >> Yeah. EDA chair and members of the EDA. So, we got some good updates for you um this week. So, we did have a um signed lease for the other 500,000 ft of the Q's building by a company called DEX. They are a um cooling system for data centers specific um and they will be doing a lot of assembling in this facility. There'll be some manufacturing but most of it will be assembly from their uh plant in Maple Grove. Um they are asking um we'd like to have a tour of their current facility. Um it is planned at 9:00 this Friday or take that back 9:30 this Friday. If you have interest in that, let me know now or if by email does not matter. We should have time to let them know how many people are going to plan on being there so we could post for public um meetings just to make sure that we know. We don't know how many jobs are yet, but >> send an email. I want to RSVP that. >> Okay. >> I will send out a invite to everybody um on the EDA. Again, I think it's very important to know that now this building is finally 100% filled. This is going to be a great spot. We have no distribution as well which is surprising but cuz that building was designed for distribution but we do not have any distribution which is a fantastic information based on engineering because of the number of vehicles that are going to go in and out of this facility. So congratulations to Dex and um the company parent company is MAS HVAC is the company the the main parent company >> MAS >> MAS >> so Mass Mas HVAC um and again they do cooling systems for data centers um there was a business journal article if you look it up there is a business turtle article in the Minneapolis St. Paul Business Journal. The other item that Yeah, I don't know if it's >> better than a warehouse. >> Yep. Fantastic. Um, >> great. >> I can give one more. I guess a couple more updates. Um, LC Stevens Park, there's been a couple of master plans that were given to the parks commission. Overall, there's been some draft concepts laid out here. Not much more says necessarily for the EDA, but there's been a couple of times when we've had um MSA out to doing um just surveys of the public to see what they're what they like to see. We'll have a concept review back here in September. That's the plan for our commission. So, we have a master plan update for LC Stevens Park. Adopt a park. I think these were mentioned, I don't know, by John in the past about um just different parks that could be adopted. We have a few of them already chosen. If somebody else would have any interest in them from either somebody listening here or anybody in the EDA that knows anyone wants to adopt a park, you most certainly can. There are quite a few still available. >> It's a sign thing. >> Yes. So, you get a sign >> for one. >> Okay. Pick which one you'd like and chair and we can >> talk to Rox get over check or whatever need. Don't we owe you for a uh >> No, not me. >> Flower pot. >> Sure. >> We for flower pot. >> Hayden. >> I'm not sure. I'll have to check with John. >> Yeah. So, let us know which one you want and we'll we'll get you signed up. Get you a sign on there. So, what's the sign? The sign is just adopt a park. >> Yep. Just say that you put your name on your park or whatever. Just more advertising for you. And you could say advertising and then you go out there and pick up the park, you know, once a month or something. Just go pick up litter for a year essentially. Just we don't have typically too much litter, but and our public works crew does a pretty good job, but again, just going there and kind of adopting a park has been >> uh how can we uh >> I want to see you picking up paper. >> Where's the uh where we hold the car show at? What's that one? >> Elsie Stevens. >> Is it on there? Um, that one's been chosen already. >> Oh, >> that's the number one park. Everyone chooses that one. >> It's great. But, um, just, yeah, if you know anybody else in the in the, you know, business world or whatever wants to adopt a park, we're trying to keep parks clean and and good to go. CRS cards, cribage, and coffee. I don't know a lot about this one, but um, our um, event specialist, Elizabeth, has been doing a fantastic job of different programs to have. So, if you have an interest in cards, cribage, and coffee, looks like it's going to be Thursdays from 9 to 11:00. And then the giving garden out front that has been a huge hit. Very start slow to start, but people have been dropping off stuff left and right up there. So there's plants and cucumbers and zucchinis and all kinds of stuff. We've obviously been advertising to make sure that people know what's going on and um look to see what the future will bring with that one. Car show. Um this will be this Friday again and then I believe it's >> having a band. >> Having a band this Friday. It'll be >> had a band last Friday or last show. >> Yep. What band was going to be this week? >> Yeah. put you in the front. It's a band. So, >> is this Steven? >> This is Alie Stevens Park. It's been a great success so far. We've really seen a lot of people come out and do things and 199 people show up every time. So, >> the uh last show was quite incredible. >> Yeah, it was pretty good troopers. >> Give or take 198. Um Dayton Heritage Heritage Day is September 20th this year. We finally got a um confirmation that that is going to happen. That is the same day as Operation Zero at Magnus Veterans Foundation. So, I think there's going to be some coordination between Dayton Heritage Day and Magnus Veterans Foundation. And next EDA meeting September 16th. And I think that's it. I got one more update that's not on here. That's a pretty big thing for the EDA. >> A pretty big one. Um, so Graco >> Graco World Headquarters will be located in Dayton, Minnesota starting in 2027. Um, >> is that in that building that they're in? >> So, they are building a new building. Um, roughly 100,000 square feet, one level. plan is roughly three levels currently. 152 jobs starting off estimated to be 300 jobs by the end of their time that they're here. Obviously anticipated they're here for a long long time. Um world headquarters of Greyco coming to Dayton in 202. >> That is a huge win for us as the city of Dayton. Um it will be located between their two buildings. So if you do it by their facility, it'll be located between their two buildings along French lakes. So essentially overlooking French Lake. Wow. You have any questions, let me know. But where are they coming from? >> Minneapolis. So, they are closing the Northeast Minneapolis site. They are redeveloping that site. I think they're looking to do something. I'm not sure, but um they are moving that whole entire world headquarters to Dayton, Minnesota. So, >> congratulations. >> Congratulations to >> all whoever. Isn't there two buildings in Dayton already that great? So there is one manufacturing facility, one distribution facility. Um it is planned that they're going to build another facility. Not sure what that will be, but there will be another one behind their world headquarters eventually on the other parcel that they do own. Um obviously they have a location in Rogers as well. That's um I think that's a manufacturing facility there. And they also have one in Noka as well. So >> how was their intake? What did Were they welcomed to their city with open arms? >> Yep. Yeah, we had a conversation. It was between Rogers and Dayton overall and we had kind of a what do you would say give us your number that you're able to make it help us work here and um >> they gave us the number that we able to work with what the council had given me and I we made it work. So um some fee forgiveness >> from a kind of economic development perspective. Should we as a city make a big deal about this? You know in terms of you know would that attract other companies if we made more you know bigger announcements to say hey Greyco was headquarters in Dayton Minnesota. Does that get others to think about that kind of stuff? >> Possibly. Um we are working with Graco whatever they need um to kind of help them you know with their process with recruiting and >> I'm just thinking they're okay with it. I mean I shout it from the top of the mountain from a city perspective to get >> this is brand new. So they just released this to list to their employees let them all their employees know last week. So this is very fresh. >> Maybe they need a spur. >> Sure. They'd love to have a spur. I'm sure chair for bringers. >> Yeah, I don't think they're going to need it for their headquarters, but they may need it for their long-term manufacturing. I don't know, but um again, I think it's something we can most certainly work on and try to anytime like right away. But I think if you work with them to think about how could you promote that to not only the citizens of Dayton, but Maple Grove, you know, like the bigger communities to try to attract >> Yep. >> you know, others. I mean, >> and who knows? But, you know, they can still use the Minneapolis address, right? >> No, they're going to move everything to Dayton, >> right? But I mean, for you know, Greyco Corporation, Minneapolis 55327. Sure. >> Oh, no. They wouldn't use Minneapolis. They'll use Dayton. >> They used it. Put >> Well, that that alone puts us on the map. >> Yeah, that I was going to say that. >> Yeah. So, they'll use Dayton, Minnesota. So, that's what I mentioned to them as well. So, we want to make sure we get creative about how we can >> Yeah. Once we hear official cuz obviously there was official posting last time when Grao said they're moving and they said Rogers or Dayton big Minneapolis St. Paul business journal aspect and they didn't know it who they were going to move to. Um I'm going to guess that there'll be another big article that comes out and we can obviously put something together to coordinate with that building is done. I think we should do a big city event ribbon cutting something cool. car show bandos tractor over there. >> We did not. >> What's that? >> Drive your ugly tractor over there. They've got one on the wall in the in the >> lobby. From a parade, >> you have another update. >> Did we have they have a a walk through this? >> I'm dead. >> How come I wasn't invited? >> We have not had a walk through of the distribution facility yet. >> Oh, >> that is not that. >> Just drive the tractor over there. No, it was the Yeah, >> the manufacturing facility. Yeah, >> the manufacturing facility has been a walk through. That was >> largest customers >> three years ago. Three and a half years ago. >> That's excuse. >> No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying this that's what it was. It was like three and a half years. >> No kidding. >> Wow. >> Been there a long time now. >> Mhm. >> Well, I I I think along the same line. I don't know what about Sooner, but certainly when they do their groundbreaking, I mean, >> Yep. >> I assume they'll invite us and and we ought to make a big deal out of that. And everyone was invited to that one when we did the groundbreaking at the first site. Everyone was invited to that one. And I think a few EDA members for that. >> I don't think EDA had any position in that, did they? That was >> Nope. That was an entire council. >> Prea, >> the first one. Oh, quick trip. We did. I remember. >> Yeah, Quick Trip. There'll be another ribbon cutting there. I just want to make sure everyone's aware. We will send this out as well. That one's October 8th. >> Yep. October 8th is a ribbon cutting at the Quick Trip down on Maple Court. I will send that out. >> Stand in for me. I'll be in uh >> I got you show cemetery that all the all the gang gets together and supports them when they come in all the >> I will send that out as well. So the river cutting and then I'll let you know about the tour for MAS HVAC or DAX this Friday. >> All right. So that covers our staff updates. >> Oh, last one I had. Lero has asked if you'd like to have a tour of the town homes as well that he did based on the EDA's approval of the agreement. If you'd like to have a tour of that, let me know and we can try to schedule something this week or early next week. >> Dave and I already went through again. Okay, that's totally fine. >> Yep. Now you're good to go. Thank you very much. >> ED member updates. What do we want to do there? >> Got them all. >> Did we get them all? >> Yeah. Okay. Well, we had staff updates. Now we have ED updates. Pull a pin. All in favor? Motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. That's all in favor. I motion. Have a great day everybody. Thank you. Thanks.