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The Tuesday, May 20th, 2025 meeting ofthe Eden Prairie City Council is now called to order. Please rise for thepledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of theUnited States of America and to theublic stands one nation under God, indivisiblewith liberty and justice for all. Well, welcome to this second meeting inthe month of May. Starting in June for our summer months, we'll have onemeeting a month for June, July, and August. Just to let you know if youenjoy so much this evening that you want to come back. just check our schedulebecause usually it's first and third Tuesday but um summer months it'll besomewhere usually we split the difference in the middle ofthat. It's customary at this time of the meeting in the beginning for me to readan open podium invitation to our residents. Open podium is an opportunityfor Eden Prairie residents to address the city council on issues related toEden Prairie city government prior to each council meeting. These councilmeetings, as I said, typically occur the first and the third Tuesday of eachmonth. The open podiums occur from 6:30 to 6:55 here in the council chamber. Ifyou wish to speak at open podium, please do contact the city manager's office at 952-9498412 by noon of the meeting datewith your name, your phone number, and subject matter so we can be betterprepared for you. Open podium is not recorded or televised. If you havequestions about open podium, please do contact the city manager's office. Mr.GTO, it's always um a pleasure these evenings where we have positivity withawards and presentations. So, it's no different this evening. I'll turn itover to you. It is Mayor uh council members. Thank you. Uh we have a few uhhuman rights awards uh this evening. our human rights and diversity commission umhas as they've had for the last several years on their work plan um to recognizean Eden Prairie individual, nonprofit, organization, business or youth um fortheir inspiring efforts to promote human rights and diversity in um the city ofEden Prairie. So, this is a very exciting night. It's always great to seepeople um award you know given these awards and to have others out here tosupport them. So I am turning things over to the chair of our human rightsand diversity commission uh the honorable Greg Leaper and he will walkus through the awards and I believe he will be introducing um the liaison toour commission and other members of the commission to also uh bestow the awardson um some well-deserved recipients. All right, thank you Mr. get and uh citycouncil members, city staff and and guests. Uh as was mentioned, I'm GregLeaper, the chair of the human rights and diversity commission, and alongsideme is Pa Jang, our staff liaison, and um who's just phenomenal without which noneof this would be possible tonight. It's my honor to um introduce the awards anduh they're based on the the Eden Prairie Manifesto that that reaches back to uhformer mayor Dr. Gene El Harris. And the manifesto continues the development of amulticultural community which will not tolerate acts of harassment andintolerance and instead helps us to establish, communicate and encouragescommun community standards that respect diversity, promote acceptance andrespect for individuals in an atmosphere of caring for others. So in celebrationof that manifesto, the human rights award recognizes an Eden Prairieindividual, nonprofit organization, business, andor young person forinspiring efforts to promote human rights and diversity and to create thissort of inclusive community spirit through their actions, throughactivities and programs. And so this year, as we have for I believe over 20years now, the Human Rights and Diversity Commission has selected anindividual, a nonprofit organization, and a youth recipient for the 2025award. So Podge and I will now hand it off to our human rights and diversitycommissioners to come to the podium and introduce our 2025 human rights awardrecipients. Hi, I'm Dan Albertton Hazreg. I'm on theHuman Rights and Diversity Commission. Um, I'm presenting the award for MissionAnimal Hospital today. Uh, founded in 2014, Mission Animal Hospital has beenin Eden Prairie since 2015, operating as the only nonprofit full-ervice animalhospital in the United States. And as one of the largest hospitals inMinnesota, Mission Animal Hospital serves nearly 25,000 pets pet visitseach year and helps over 6,500 families. Mission Animal Hospitalupholds the values of the Eden Prairie Manifesto through their dedication toprioritize their services to lowincome individuals and families who may facefinancial barriers in providing the needs of their pets. Mission AnimalHospital uses a reduced fee model to make these services accessible and hasalso been innovative in accessibility by providing on-site mental health care andreferral services for clients. Currently, Mission Animal Hospital isexpanding translation services for non-English-speaking clients as a partof their compassion in every language program. Mission Animal Hospitalcontinues to create an impact on our community and we are honored torecognize them here tonight. [Applause][Music] I thought you're supposed to be up highwhen you're photographing people over [Laughter]seven. Thank you. Hello, my name is Savannah Reese and Iam a member of the Human Rights and Diversity Commission. Uh today I havethe honor of presenting this this individual award to Rachel Casper.Rachel Casper is the director of children and family ministries at EdenPrairie United Methodist Church. Rachel upholds the values of the Eden Prairiemanifesto through her dedication to creating an inclusive and supportiveenvironment to all. Rachel has spearheaded the church's autismministry, which has resulted in a dedicated sensory friendly space adaptedto worship resources such as headphones, sensory walls, and specializedspecialized toys, and most notably organizing a free week-long adaptiveBible camp, which attracts families statewide. Rachel's dedication to autismawareness has led her to proactively identify and dismantle barriers toresource access for children with autism and have allowed her to directly assessindividual disparities to ensure equitable participation and access toprogramming. Through her work, Rachel has fostered inclusiveness forindividuals with diverse identities, especially from those especially thosefrom marginalized communities and has created a safe, accepting space forthose who often feel excluded. Rachel's impact on our community is immeasurableand we are honored to recognize her here tonight.[Applause] Hello, my name is Shelanda Barry. I amon the human rights and diversity commission here in Eden Prairie. Today Iwill be presenting the youth award for Naimm Umar.Naimm Umar opposed the values of the Eden Prairie Manifesto through hisdedication to stepping up as a leader to drive progress on creating a safe andequitable space for all, especially through sports. Naim started a nonprofitsoccer organization that eliminates the financial barrier and givesunderprivileged kids the opportunity to play a sport they love. Whatbegan what began as a grassroot effort has now grown into a full-fledgedprogram with over 30 kids. Naim works to actively identify and remove barriersthat prevent youth from accessing organized sports such as financialhardships, transportation equipment, and access to safe training environments. Bybeing dedicated to equity, Naim created a donationf funed model that eliminatesparticipation fees, provides uniforms, gear, and coaching at no cost. Naimm isa dedicated leader and engages with families and the community to build aculturally inclusive and supportive environment for the youth. Through hiswork, Naim has fostered an environment where every youth feels seen, valued,and included regardless of their background, identity, or ability. Naimis a shining example of a young person that strives to build a strongercommunity. We look forward to seeing where this path takes him.[Applause] [Applause] The others counted, but I think thisone's likeSee, we have [Applause] He looks like he's Thank you. um PA, our um Eden PrairieCity staff liazison person and Greg Leaper, the chair of the human rightsand diversity commission. And I'm going to uh just for a moment, you all walkingout, go out into the um atrium, but then turn and look at me because I'm going tosay something relating to all of you. Um I'm going to venture slightly into um soI won't say dangerous, I just did, but interesting space.Um certainly nationally DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion has come under alittle bit of a I think a misguided but attack. Um I know from working at UnitedHealth Group for 11 years and teaching courses on DEIuh that from I'm preaching to the choir her but diversity is simply recognitionthat we're all different. We're all uniquely different. Equity is just theuh willingness of everyone to treat everyone fairly. Everyone should havethat fair shot. And then inclusion, inclusivity is just how do people feelin terms of the diversity and equity policies? Do they feel that they'rebeing recognized as individuals and treated fairly? I don't see anythingwrong with DEI. I I'm assuming many people, especially on the HRDC, uh feellikewise. So, I'm proud to be in a city that acknowledges the uniqueness of eachof us and tries to treat each of us fairly and worries and cares about whatindividuals are feeling as to whether they are indeed being treated fairly andacknowledged and recognized. So, thank you um Human Rights and DiversityCommission for what you do. Um, congratulations again to our winners uhthis year and um thank you to the people of En Prairie for at least um those whotalk to me believing in what we do as a city and that it still is important toacknowledge diversity, equity, and inclusion. Thankyou. All right, with that, um Mr. Gro, I believe we're ready to move on to theagenda. I just want to make sure Mayor Yes. Okay. Um council um we need to havea motion to approve the agenda. Are there any items you wish to add to thatmeeting um council member reports or anything otherwise I'll entertain amotion? A move to approve the agenda. Second. Uh any further discussion? Allthose in favor say I. I opposed. All right. Moving on to the minutes. We havetwo meetings that we're approving minutes on back from May 6th. ourworkshop and our council meeting held that night. Council, any um lines oritems or thoughts in there if you read through them that you'd like to edit orcorrect comment on? If not, is there a motion to approve both of those meetingminutes? Move to approve the following city council minutes. The city councilworkshop held Tuesday, May 6th, 2025. The city council meeting held Tuesday,May 6, 2020, 2025. Is there a second? Second. Any further discussion? Allthose in favor say I. I. I. Oppos. All right. Consent calendar. These are theitems that are important, but nonetheless um don't necessarily needfurther discussion unless you want there to be. So, we clump them together intoone large uh motion. council, any of the items A through E that you want to learnmore about or vote on separately? If not, is there a motion to approve itemsA through E on the consent calendar? Move to approve items A through E E onthe consent calendar. Is there a second? Second. Further discussion. All those infavor say I. I oppose. Mr. Gretcho, we do um have um a public um well, it is aresolution to vacate, so it's public hearing. So, um I'll turn it back toyou. Thank you, Mayor. It is public hearing. You you see these on a somewhatregular basis. Uh vacating uh drainage and utility easement. Um in this case,this is particular to one property on Boulder Point Road. Um it's the vacatinguh drainage and utility easement that the city is not necessary for the cityto have that entire easement. It allows the homeowner to construct a pool. Um,also following the vacation, the city is requesting um, following that there willbe a conservation easement over a portion of lot one. So, um, as I said,it's a resolution vacating a existing drainage and utility easement and thenapproving a new conservation easement. Um, if I can just ask real quick, what'sthe purpose of um, the conservation easement approval? because that is kindof a a newer item in terms of typical uh drainage easements. Yes. And I think Mr.Ellis could weigh in, but it's my understanding that um with the originalconstruction of the development of the property, there should have been aconstru conservation easement at the original plat and that did not occur.So, we are coming back at this time and putting the conservation easement inthat should have been there originally. Yeah, and that's correct. I'll justsimply add there's also a wetland back there that the conservation easement isgoing over. So, so kind of begs the question, sorry to take this digressingdown another rabbit hole, but um how did it get missed or why do these thingshappen often? Yeah, I you know I don't know what year this would have beenfiled or when the plat would have way before your time. I'm sure this haspoint was probably 92 34 or something. I think there was a time in ourdevelopment where there was a lot of growth going on and there was a lot ofum there was just a lot of development and so keeping track of all the tottingthe eyes, crossing of the tees, sometimes things were missed. My firstfew years council meetings went till 12:00 midnight often and we would have 7to 8 to nine public hearings on development projects. So I fullyunderstand just curious about that. Thankyou. All right, council. Any questions before we open it up to um the public?So, this is a public hearing. Anyone wishing to address the council thisevening on this resolution to vacate part of lock one block one Boulder Ridgeuh addition drainage and utility easements. It's fairly housekeepingpreuncter, but if anyone would like to speak, they certainlycan. All right, seeing none, council, um go ahead and maybe um close the publichearing. make um somebody moved the resolution. Then if you still hadquestions or comments, you could make them. Somebody want to make the motion.I'll move to close the public hearing and adopt a resolution vacating thedrainage and utility easements. Is there a second? Second. Council, any otherdiscussion before we vote? Again, fairly housekeeping. All those in favor say I.I opposed. All right. Passes unanimous. Um Mr. Mr. Gro, back to ordinances andresolutions. Back to you. Um, mayor, payment of claims. You did that. Youcaught it. You caught it yourself. You caught it. You caught it. I know aboutthree council members already. I saw you moving forward. So, yes, we do havepayment of claims, which um in the classic old days, it was uh the all thelist of checks that the city cut, you know, to all of our vendors, whatever.Um it's pages and pages long, but it's very important that we takeresponsibility for those. That's why it's going to be a roll call vote. So,council, any payment of claims items, if you happen to your eye caught it whenyou skimmed through the pages of the expenditures, anything you want toquestion? If not, then is there a motion to approve payment of claims? Move toapprove the payment of claim as submitted. Is there a second? Second.Further discussion. Roll call. Council member Fyberg. I. Council member Nion.I. Council member Nelson. I. Council member Tumi. Hi, Mayor Casease. I Allright. Now, Mr. Gro, we uh do have an item under ordinances and resolutions.We do, Mayor. We have a few um we've been saving up some updates for thismeeting. We thought with a pretty quick meeting, we'd bring some ordinancerevisions to you. Um nonpublic hearing required ordinance revisions. So thefirst the first one is related to disposal of um abandoned vehicles,unclaimed, found and surplus property. So we uh we have uh city code thatspells out uh pretty clearly and you can see it in the packet procedures andprocesses for how we dispose of equipment and property and um surplusitems that we have. And you may um note there's time frames for certain items,how long we must hold items before we can dispose them, processes for sale andauction and advertisement. Um one thing that we have done um for as long as weknow is each and every single item that we dispose of uh we place and listseparately on a council agenda. So you may have noticed over the years whetherit was loose change, a computer part, um any item whatsoever, it was a separateresolution that you would approve before you would um declare that surplusequipment. Um through going through this ordinance, we have found that there'snothing in state statute that requires you to do that. Um we're not aware ofother cities that are doing that on a routine basis. it's something thatyou've done for a while. So, we thought we could simply um streamline thisprocess and update the code. So, you don't need to have a resolution and listevery single item that you would dispose of, but knowing as you can see in thecode that there is a process to get rid of these minor items. And obviously, youknow, through purchasing and contract that you do obviously have a say in umyou know, any major purchases or um disposing of any major items.So, just curious here. I I totally agree that we don't need to be um part ofevery small um computer that you know gets sold offor something. But just from a knowledge basis, if a resident were to ask us,hey, I hear that the city's auctioning off something and we had no knowledge ofit. Is there a way to keep us informed without adding extra work to you or anystaff or do people keep someone keep track of that throughout the year by theend of the year? You know, we got rid of these 337 items. I mean, is there a wayfor us to keep knowledgeable on that? I think there absolutely because westill have to follow processes and keep records on how everything is disposedof. So, there could easily be a report generated and and counselor, you youspeak up here, too. I'm not personally looking for like here's the long list of37 pages of I'm thinking more categories. So, oh, we have we do selloff now and then excess computers or we sell cars or uh we sell a firetruck now.You know, that kind of if there's categories, I think that's what I'mlooking for. I don't know if you all just to keep me informed in case aresident asked. Is that council member Nuran? I have different question onceyou Okay, I think I think this is that okay on that one. just if they now andthen give us categories of what kinds of things they um Well, how often do thingsget auctioned off? I don't think the auctions are all thatcommon. I think I mean I'm thinking in terms of police auctions and publicworks auctions. I two times a year maybe bicycles are not um bicycles aresomething that I think you're disposed of. maybe more frequently. It's not acommon occurrence. Are you differentiating the auction verse if wejust um do we do we give them away or would we be selling like the bicycles tosome you know wholesale vendor? I depends on the u the value of the bikeor operable such but yeah I think there's a provision that kind of junkbicycles are just disposed of. So I think if we got an ebike for examplethat's worth something that somebody doesn't claim then I I think that wouldfall I hope Lisa correct me if I'm wrong but into I would just want to know thecategories in my head. So we do take these kinds of items to auction. We didthat twice a year. These kinds of items we actually were able to sell. thesekinds of items we got rid of just so and and and here's and I don't even need toknow all the items by any means just the categories of you know types of thingsthat the city throughout a year gets rid of and maybe that's once a year Rickmaybe up in December or you just let us know um I don't want to cause work foranyone just keeping track is it better to put thatup on the website so it's public also know that so we don't haveanything special that add more work. I mean, we could certainly do that. Ithink I don't know how many people are looking at the packet to see what wethrow away. Um, but I'm sure there's a way to do that. Imean, it's not it's not a matter I mean, we want to be transparent. So, access tosome of these things that we're I mean, would they have an ability to purchaseor to bid on? And so, absolutely. So if you look inthe co so this this ordinance is about you not having to approve by every umresolution the action to do the the work. It can be done administratively.So then when you actually look at the ordinance you could see that we list forsale in the paper or in different categories what's for sale or what'sgoing to auction or what's been. So we have processes to do that publicly. Um,and so some of that we could absolutely make it available somewhere on thewebsite. I'd have to and statute does allow the electronic sale of property.You know, you can use an online auction and I think public works uses that quitea bit. So you can even send the link or have the link available if people areinterested in that. Okay. So, so my background in cyber security I wasthinking is this extent to serversPCs and is any data sitting in there that Rick that chose PC got old and ifthat somebody get a hold of it and if you haven't wiped out is there a processor something that we need to worry about am I bringing up something totally newstuff I would I think I think it is all over that we oftentimes with thecomputer equipment there's an organization called PCs for people thatyou donate all that and if it's salvageable they'll refurbish it youknow and I I I don't know if they wipe the data or we wipe the data or Aliciamight know the answer to that I'm sure it's clean PG nobody gets rid of acomputer anymore doesn't totally scrub it because nowadays everything hasmemory that is taken care of but as you know like every single piece of computerequipment is listed in those resolutions that go in the packet but it is wipedOkay, thank you. That was okay. Um, thank you for that conversation. We doneed a motion then on each of these. Um, so this first one, if somebody wouldlike to make the motion, you if you still have questions or comments, youcan still make them after the motion. Somebody would make the motion and we'llget a second. I'll move to approve the first reading of an ordinance amendingcity code section 2.86 86 relating to disposal of abandoned motor vehicles andunclaimed found in surplus property. Is there a second? Second. Second. Anyfurther discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Opposed. Okay. Mr. Gro. B.All right. B is um straight up. It is simply renumbering and housekeeping andreflecting what is in state statute as it relates to the state fire code andthe state building code. So when the fire code was last amended in 2020,several sections re renumbered and our ordinance updates the numbers in statecode to reflect city code. In the same case when the building code wasreumbered in uh 2007, our city code was not updated to um reflect currentstatutory references. So we're just making the proper references andmatching everything up. There is no um substantial change to anything ineither. Sounds good. Pretty straightforward. Council, any questions?If not, motion. Move to approve the first reading of an ordinance amendingcity code section 9.05 relating to the Minnesota StateFire Code and section 10.01 relating to Minnesota StateBuilding Code. Is there a second? Second. Further discussion. All those infavor say I. Oppos. Mr. Gos C. Okay. Mayor and Council, the third and lastone relates to um section 537 and section540, peddlers and gambling. So, kind of two separate things um but in one codeamendment, one motion. I'm going to cover peddlers first. So the city andthis is kind of through the police department regulates peddlers andsolicitors and all peddlers and solicitors in the city need to obtain apermit. So typically when the city does backgrounding and does permitting thosewho have a bad business reputation are not eligible for a permit and there'senforcement action that occurs. What we're trying to strengthen in ourordinance is um we have mechanisms where we can streng strengthen the provisionin our code that the person can be ineligible for a peddler's permit notonly if they have individually have a bad business reputation. So when we'relooking at the background of an individual, but also if the company or abusiness has a bad reputation, um we can kind of broaden our enforcement actionover um over prov not g dealing with possibly not giving them a permit. So, Iguess maybe an example would be you might have maybe not an issue with anindividual, but you have an issue with a business. And we're looking at theindividuals because we're issuing individual permits. Um, but we're somesometimes put in a bind that um the problem is with the business and we wantto be able to look back at the business that we're having an issue with and beable to look at both the individual and the business. That's the Can we takethat separate just for a second? Vote one on the whole thing, but just forquestions. So, just a question comes to mind. So, bad business reputation. UmI'm I'm and maybe the chief would actually want to come up and just chatfor a moment about this possibly, but but sounds potentially subjective unlessthere was and so maybe maybe Maggie wants to speak. I I can speak to that.And we actually changed the code several years ago to make it objective. So badbusiness reputation is specific to an enforcement action or sustained findingfrom the state attorney general's office, another regulatory body, asimilar body from another state. So it's not just we decide they have or you knowwe know that problems in shock you know some sort of sustained finding. So it itis as objective as we can make it. Understood. Thank you. I appreciatethat. That's the only question I had other okay to move on to gambling. Okay.Mr. Gro. All right. Thank you. Um so in gambling uh couple updates. So, as youknow, because we've dealt with this a few different times because we went anumber of years without issuing um lawful gambling permits in the city andrecently we've we've issued um quite a few as it relates to pull tabs. Um so acouple updates that we would like to make um would be one um those eligibleand I think this follows our practice and what you would want um to beeligible for a premise permit in Eden Prairie and we haven't had anybody askfor this yet but we want to um cover what we would what would be ourpreferred alter uh preferred uh route would be that an organization wouldbasically be Eden Prairie based that it would hold their meetings in the cityand at least onethird of their members reside in the city. So, it's kind ofkeeping the operations in Eden Prairie. And then, um secondly, um as you know,and you can always change this if you want, um we limit the number of permits,premise permits for lawful gambling in Eden Prairie to six. we have four andthen one additional per 10,000 residents um in excess of 40,000 people. So whenwe get to 70,000 we could have seven 80,000 we could have eight but currentlywe have um six. And so um the idea here would be to avoid one organizationgetting all permits. We thought that we would limit one organization to fourbecause there could be another organization that could come along atanother time wanting to do lawful uh gaming at some point in time and we maywant to have the opportunity to provide them um the option. Again, analternative could be if you want to give somebody six, you could do that. Youcould choose not to do this or you could um lift the cap if you want. We don'thave anybody um with four right now. We have someone um with three, but um therecould that could occur at a at a future date. So, we're talking like full tabsongoing. Um uh like at Champs, there's there's thethe counter there. Um so, we're not talking about the one the or thenonprofit that comes for that one time bingo game or something. We are notmarried. Those are somewhat unlimited there. There are rules related to kindof time, place, and number that you could have together in a year. Um, sothere's a whole set of rules for that, but so unlimited is not the right word,but um there could be many of those. This is a premise permit. This is uhregular ongoing all the time at a set location on a regular basis. That iscorrect. And if electronic pull tabs get approved in the state for widespreaduse, will that will this pick that up? I don't I I think so. I mean, it itdepends on what the state rules say about these types of organization andwhat sort of lawful gambling they they would do, but I I would imagine so. Iwould think so. Yeah. Interesting. Council member Ryan. Yeah, I like thefour permit per than every you know one person can all of it. I think it's kindof fairness so they can compete. So six rightsix total. Is there any flexibility uh and subjectivity that if only oneorganization in the whole city was interested and they came and they wantedsix locations and then the next year another organization came forward thenwe pull back and take do we do that or or are we simply saying no no no no morethan four so then the two spots remain open even though no there's no eventhough there so so what I would say mayor is the earlier option I would notdo I would never pull back Because once they get established in a location tosay, "Oh, somebody else came in. You got to close down." That makes sense. What Iwould do is I would just expand. If you if you want to give someone more, youyou would say, "Hey, we've got six. Tough luck." If a whole new nonprofitcame in or you go beyond six. Okay. Um you could also say you could put this inplace and then if someone gets beyond four, you could say, "Okay, let's go tofive or you could say five and seven." You can change this at any time. Rightnow, we only have four that are active. Yeah. And that's all one organization.That's correct. Okay. Well, they have all No, you have you have five. You havefour. Um, you also have the the Eden Prairie AM Rotary has a a premise permitfor bingo at Fat Pants. Oh, okay. council. Any other uh questions aboutthis? Uh go ahead then. And uh we're making amotion that covers both uh the peddler um changes or to the ordinance andgambling. So mayor, I'm sorry to interrupt real quick too because therequest if if you're okay with this, this is the only ordinance we'rebringing for first and second reading because I think we're expecting a lot ofpeddler permit applications and we don't meet again until mid June. So, wethought if you unanimously approve this, then upon publication, this can go intoeffect and then we can um this is more so for the peddlers permit. Then we canget this through without waiting till June. The other ordinances will need asecond reading. Okay. Um I guess we could wait to find out at vote time, butif you are uncomfortable voting for this, if you'd be comfortable sharingthat now, that would be great, too. And then we can have that conversation aboutwhat that looks like if we do have to wait, which is I mean it's not exceptfor what Mr. GTO just shared. It's not the end of the world, I suppose, if wehad to wait and then we pass second reading with only four votes at the nextmeeting. Um so maybe I'll just go ahead and let the chips fall where they willand we'll take the vote unless there's more um discussion and you can stillhave it after the motion is made. So if somebody would make the motion, we'llget a second. So go you right there it talks about first and second reading. Somove to approve the first and second reading of the ordinance amending citycode section 5.37 relating to peddlers and section5.40 relating to gambling and adopt a resolution approving a summary ordinancefor publication. Is there a second? Second. Further discussion. All those infavor say I. I oppose. Maggie Roberts rules of order question here. If thathad fa if that had failed right there, um so we only get four one. So it passesbut it the first and second fails. Would then I as the chair of this um body umtake another motion separate to pass the first reading of it. Yeah, that I'm justcurious when you clumped because I typically that's not well and maybe itis clumped together, but that that threw me for a moment. If it didn't pass andyet we voted 41 in favor of it, we would go back y and bring the first reading ofit and pass that 41 and then have second reading it. Okay. Y perfect. Thank you.Just a Robert's rules of order clarification. So, um Mr. Gretch andcouncil, I believe that's all to come before the city council this evening.All right, with that council, anything? So, with that, if there's a motion toadjourn the city council meeting, I'll move to adjourn the council meeting. Isthere a second? Second. All those in favor say I. Oppose. This meeting isadjourned.