So with the time limits on this program that uh reimbursement that has to occur before the end of this year. Is that correct?

There really is an element of awkwardness to this in the sense that they need the money. We've seen that in other circumstances, but we don't give them the money until after they do the work and pay somebody with money they we don't even know if they have. So, I mean, it's been kind of I I guess everybody's worked through that little uh temporary bridge problem, right?

Mr. Chair observation. It's also an important fraud control uh aspect of of most most uh governmental grant systems do work like that.

the cafe space that we're in now does didn't have the hood and the ventilation system for us to be able to do the British breakfast. That was the main um crux of it. So, we needed to have this hood installed.

Well, we've had some nice successes with these uh expedited grants up to 24,000. I can't help but think about the uh old crepe crepery on France Avenue that's just seems to have a thriving business and uh helped her with the front door, I think the front windows and the back door and had a grant of a similar nature and so it's nice to be able to help these small businesses prosper in our community and enhance our tax base in the process.

for the Northwest site, the Doran group wants to shift focus a little bit from all ages apartment to 55 plus senior housing. The concern being that on the eastern side of the property, we're already going to see about 450ome new all age apartments. Um the 55 plus category is a little bit different and that's right now that's uh uh it's not overlapping onto what's already happening next door.

right now the property pays about $348,000 each year in taxes. That's a lot. When these four buildings are finished, this site will generate about 3.6 million a year in property taxes. So um again, that that's that's where we where we really focus with these kind of larger scale projects.

the fundamental uh message here is that when when the city of Adina applies tax increment, the financial risk is always structured to rest with the developer, not with the city taxpayer.

It's my understanding that because currently it's 100% commercial that when it becomes at least partially residential that that residential tax will increase the amount of money that goes to the schools regardless of any you know even though the base of what gets paid out to the county, the city and the schools does not change that the mix of that uh because of the shift from commercial to residential means the schools will automatically get more tax revenue. venue from this property by the change of use. Is that correct?

what I'm starting to get concerned about a little bit is we do the east side under the existing plan and now we moved up to the primary commercial corridor and now we've got one proposal for one parcel and no proposal for the other parcel... what goes on that pad you [clears throat] know and then now we've got and I guess we had this before with the master plan uh and and maybe Doran can help us with this when they get up to speak but now along the commercial corridor that has become a real vibrant retail corridor we're going to have the side of an apartment building along France Avenue, not the front

I'm a little incredulous about this. You can't promise the prominade when you don't control this piece of property. And looking at this picture, um, this [clears throat] plan eviscerates the public purpose that's perceived by the public.

I don't think you should be trying to answer these questions. I think what this is very complicated. the conversation for us, the question was financing and we've kind of already answered that we're okay with TIFF for this uh original project. Um, I would venture to say that that is still the case, but it's very complicated and I I think you need to get in a conference room or at a Starbucks someplace with Enclave and figure out um what project you're going to go through the planning commission with because there's lots of moving pieces to it.

I'm pretty disappointed that um you couldn't hold this whole thing together. Um, we were we were an earnest, willing partner with you on a plan that you came that you said you could deliver. And you're not delivering what you said you'd deliver. And I don't care about market conditions. You should have had your financing lined up to do what you said you were going to do.