“if we wanted to have a budget that didn't exceed a certain percentage... my answer is I don't know... maybe it should be less maybe it should be more... I'm rather interested in how do we get to a percentage of a potential levy increase that I would say tracks more along the lines of people's property value increases”

“what Carolyn felt very strongly about at retreat was not wanting that to be... to reduce capital as the way and means... of value choices of how we go about doing that”

“the problem though is... August is when we would see the department budgets... it's not really okay that on August 9th we'll know if we're at 8% 9% 10%... it's almost too late at that point... we're trying to get to that answer sooner”

“I do think that the conversation that we had at the retreat... getting to that rough number that we were kind of able to equate to what's the rough percentage felt like a good step... I also think that August this time around is going to feel a lot different because of this preparation... we have these two options here now of the 1.4 capital improvement plan versus the 2 million capital improvement plan”

“could we get this list to the stack ranked priority that we want to see and then once we see some of these numbers then we can snap the line of what's in what's out”

“we had talked about a staffing study... why is it long term... what if we do drop into a deep recession... do we have any kind of emergency scenario setback... I'm getting increasingly concerned about that... I think we ought to have a rainy day or tornado day scenario”

“I really like it the fact that big users pay more because we're trying to reduce energy consumption... that's my two cents worth at this point”

“I'm trying to rationalize us saying we're trying to reduce the levy which impacts residents and we're going to take this cost out of the levy but we're going to increase the fee that then gets allocated back to the residents... I struggle with that... I would want to see everything that we're taking out of the levy that still has to be allocated somehow... I want my allocation to be less than it was before”

“if we're saying we have we need another we need 2.6 million and we want to reduce the burden on the taxpayers... we could say we're going to spend $2 million less... we're going to roll back the pedestrian the packs fund... we're going to do less conservation and sustainability... that's the rich conversation that we need to be able to have”

“I think you you pointed out we have two questions one is to do the percentage and then the second is to add the street reconstruction million dollars into it... I would be in favor of doing the percentage... and the million dollars... I don't I don't have an opinion at this point”

“why do we like this model... because so why do we like this model now I would say one when we look at the direct impact to the residents it is relatively small and we are already talking about potentially increasing that we do see more of the impact of commercial and industrial so I like that part of it the second part that I like is it gives people more of a lever”

“my assumption is in terms of payment out the door for residential whether it's through tax levy or through franchise fees residents are going to see a more... they're going to see a cut on their bill at the end of the day because now you're shifting it to the commercial... we just have to let us run we just have to say that like we got to put that story together so people can say if it's true”

“the current building does not meet the building code for this type of facility it has to store hazardous chemicals has to meet fire safety standards for operations has to hold large volumes of water and they have to process large volumes of water... we basically have to take the building down and dig a swimming pool for this... there's really not a point to keeping that existing building”

“we asked that question well if we didn't build a plant could we just do it with water storage needs and we learned that we can't... we need both we need updated storage we need some better efficient storage and the treatment plants needed”

“I just hate to tear the building down... I don't know what we do with it but I feel like that skate park is hitting basically roped off behind there it gets no use... if we unwind that three city deal put the water tower back or the water treatment plant back there and hang on to the building for the time being we see if there's a future use for it”

“we don't have any action tonight we just want to see if it was generally supported... there may be future actions on demoing that building which would come back to council and we can have whether or not that's supported at this time or not”

“the threshold question I think for the council would be should we continue to use that money the way we've used it in the past or should we be thinking about turning it back... I've got my own personal feelings about that i like the way you've used it in the past as a security blanket for rainy day fund others may have different opinions”

“we'd like that too to have an understanding of of the council's kind of collective position on that as a policy so that we don't have to so it doesn't have to be in flux every time we have a question about”

“we're not going to hold a task force this year instead what we're going to do is give you guys more time to see the budget proposal in August think about whether or not you want to make any changes... we would just extend those contracts and then do a task force if you wanted us to continue to do this again in the spring”