Edina City Council — Transcript

Wednesday, October 9, 2024

Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment and Tax Increment Financing (TIF) Analysis

Project Feasibility Without Tax Increment Financing

Tax Increment Financing Mechanism and Public Benefit Analysis

Comprehensive Plan Affordability and Strategic Investment Priorities

Timeline Pressures and Financing Constraints

Votes (4)

Approval of Meeting Agenda with Item Reordering

Unanimous approval

Dissent: None

Moved by Commissioner Jackson [3:13] · Seconded by Commissioner Pierce [3:13]

Staff recommended switching agenda items 8.1 and 8.2 to improve sequential flow. The motion passed unanimously without discussion.

Community Comment Period

No action required

No members of the public called in during the designated community comment period. The chair waited one minute past the scheduled time to allow for potential online callers before proceeding.

Consent Agenda Adoption

Unanimous approval

Dissent: None

Moved by Commissioner Jackson [5:36] · Seconded by Commissioner Pierce [5:36]

No commissioners requested removal of items from the consent agenda. All items were adopted in a single motion without discussion.

Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

Deferred to next meeting (two weeks); no vote taken

Dissent: No formal dissent; however, Commissioner Pierce and Commissioner Agu raised substantive concerns about the feasibility of the comprehensive plan and the appropriateness of TIF as the financing mechanism, suggesting the city should evaluate alternative investment strategies and establish policy-level targets for TIF usage.

Economic Development Manager Bill Nondorf introduced the $300 million mixed-use redevelopment project at 7235 France Avenue. Developer Patrick Brahma presented a detailed one-page analysis addressing three key questions: (1) What happens to the approved project without TIF? (2) What would the project look like without TIF? (3) What is the dollar value of the differences? Brahma identified four major cost drivers: affordable housing ($6-16 million), land use strategy complexity ($13-20 million), public realm and street improvements ($500K-$1M annually), and sustainability policy compliance ($1.7 million). The total TIF note would be approximately $23 million (7.7% of the $300 million project), compared to the 10% benchmark used in prior projects like Maison Green. Commissioner Jackson questioned the relationship between the approved project and the Maison Green precedent, noting that project used a $5 million TIF note plus sufficient cash flow for public improvements. Commissioner Pierce framed the discussion as a broader policy question about whether the city can afford its comprehensive plan and whether TIF is the optimal financing mechanism versus alternatives like bonds or grants. He emphasized that all policy choices (affordable housing, sustainability, underpass accommodation) have costs that should be transparent in decision-making. Commissioner Agu raised concerns about the site remaining undeveloped and questioned whether the comprehensive plan itself needs revision if it creates financial gaps. The discussion revealed that the proposed underpass connection across France Avenue significantly influenced site design, requiring extra corridors, structural reinforcement, and an east-west pedestrian connection—all cost drivers that would be eliminated in a simplified two-building scenario. Brahma emphasized that without TIF or other assistance, the project would not proceed and that Enclave would need to request variances to city policies, which conflicts with the company's core value of following city vision. Financial advisor Nick An Hut explained the TIF mechanism: it captures new tax value created by development, freezes the tax rate at district establishment, and allows future levy increases above the frozen rate to flow to the general fund. He noted that the city uses only 75% of the increment, leaving 25% for other purposes. Commissioner Jackson requested a comparison of tax revenue from a hypothetical scenario (doubling the current property value through renovation) versus the park maintenance fee ($86,000 annually) proposed as part of the TIF deal. The HRA deferred final action on the TIF District Resolution to allow two weeks for further analysis, contract finalization, and consideration of alternative financing mechanisms.

Notable Quotes (13)

The developer Patrick Brahma with Enclave companies is here with us this morning and here he's prepared to respond to several questions that have been posed to him over the last couple weeks about his proposals.

Bill Nondorf, Economic Development Manager [6:40-6:52]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

The direct answer is the this project that was approved on 9917 wouldn't work there is there is a financial gap... if anybody hasn't heard it this project wouldn't move forward uh we're not in a position financially to make it work without Tiff as approved.

Patrick Brahma, Enclave Companies [19:34-19:52]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

We've attempted to be transparent that we knew a financial gap existed on the project and that that this discussion would be needed and that assistance would be needed at some level... we've tried to be transparent that that would be the case on this project from the very beginning.

Patrick Brahma [20:05-20:50]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

We're going through this question because we're being asked uh this is not we're not requesting changes these changes we're not opposing these changes uh we are aware and we're made aware and are conscious of the city's policies that they have in place sustainability policies affordability policies comprehensive plan small District plans... a core value for Enclave is that we we don't want to be the developer that's going into the communities and to ask for exceptions to all the rules.

Patrick Brahma [21:08-21:28]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

Everything is connected and so when I read through what you have here there's a couple of things that stand out to me... the project that we have in front of us right it's a it's a beautiful project right when you step back and you think about the vision in that space um I think it's a beautiful project um but I do think our processes kind of lead us toward an outcome fairly early on in the process.

Commissioner Pierce [44:09-44:52]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

This project would not occur but for Tiff like we talk about Tiff Tiff Tiff Tiff and what we really should be saying is right the city needs to make an investment in this project well what are the options for that well tip is one of those right we also look at Grants right we could do bonds we there's lots of things we could do.

Commissioner Pierce [45:14-45:51]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

You could argue with your land use strategy points as a city we perhaps we can't really afford our comp plan because there's a gap there all right well if that's true then what do we need to do as a city um to make sure that the things that we have in there we can achieve maybe we can achieve them in a longer period of time maybe we can structure projects differently.

Commissioner Pierce [47:17-48:00]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

We're also looking at a um a proposed tax lever increase of 133% now we're doing some work on that... if we do this project or a project and we use Tiff we definitely create more tax capacity but it sits in the district for whatever the time frame we set for that that tax District so if we're in a position where we need additional Revenue could it be better for us to have a project that can be done in two years without Tiff maybe it's not 300 50 um million in tax capacity maybe it's 150 but that 150 goes directly to the general fund once that project is complete.

Commissioner Pierce [49:07-50:34]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

I do think that um commissioner pierce the way you framed it up of do we need to change what it is that we're looking for our comprehensive plan like does our comprehensive plan need to change if we want to set a specific threshold or cap or goal of what Tiff is for a city.

Commissioner Agu [54:01-54:41]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

If if assuming no assistance at all we would have never worked on this project it's if we knew it wouldn't be a possibility for that discussion period that I we don't think a project works here that meets because the only way for us to make it work would be for me for us to ask for a bunch of variances that's that's the honest I mean that's we would have to ask for several variances and waivers to policies.

Patrick Brahma [57:14-58:29]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

We're using a kind of a passive investment strategy in this we're deferring the benefit that's created to the tax base in order to obtain all of these amenities that we want in this project and at the end of the day it's going to come back onto the tax base eventually and add to the pie of the ex existing taxpayers um but not for the period while the Tiff district is established.

Nick An Hut, ERS and Associates [11:09-11:35]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

What I think it was about $10 million in Tiff donut 50th in France right yeah the the Tiff uh at 50th was a $10 million Tiff note and so every as I recall every 6 months now they're paying $600,000 worth of taxes and based on them doing all the work now they're getting reimbursed 90% of that probably goes back to the developer to reimburse them for the money they expended until the $10 million is satisfied plus interest.

Chair Huband [1:07:05-1:07:33]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

Our deadline is January 10th um so we're trying to back into that and and U to be candid it's getting very tight and so um we're closely monitoring that And discussing that with Macy's... we're under a time crunch right now um as far as uh debt and Equity uh the the Full Construction lending the full final debt and Equity that's something that will come into play before construction starts.

Patrick Brahma [1:02:50-1:03:12]
Macy's Furniture Site Redevelopment: TIF Analysis and Project Feasibility Discussion

Ordinances & Resolutions (7)

Southdale District GuidelinesPlan

Land use and design guidelines governing the Macy's site redevelopment; influence project complexity and cost structure

Comprehensive PlanPlan

City-wide planning document establishing sustainability policies, affordable housing requirements, and mixed-use development standards; central to discussion of project feasibility

Sustainability PolicyPlan

City policy requiring design modeling, commissioning, and energy efficiency measures; estimated cost impact of $1.7 million on the project

Affordable Housing PolicyPlan

City requirement for 10% affordability at 50% AMI for 30 years; estimated rent loss impact of $6-16 million (net present value)

Term Sheet (July 2024)Other

Preliminary TIF financing framework outlining general parameters for project support; basis for ongoing contract negotiations

Redevelopment Agreements (Three Separate Contracts)Other

Proposed contracts for three distinct project parcels; approximately 600 pages total; still in negotiation; expected completion early November 2024

TIF District ResolutionResolution

Proposed action to establish tax increment financing district; deferred pending further analysis and contract finalization

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