Edina City Council — Transcript

Monday, March 17, 2025Analysis complete

4 Topics in This Document

Front Yard Setback Variance - 4619 Town Circle

Preliminary Rezoning and Mixed-Use Development - 7235 France Avenue

Public Input and Engagement Process

Traffic Study and Roadway Impacts - 7235 France Avenue

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Approved unanimously
Approved unanimously
No vote required; public comment period
Approved unanimously (voice vote: all in favor)
No vote taken; public hearing closed; further deliberation anticipated

I see very little data being used very little evidence it's a lot of we need it we want it let's do it it's not a way to run any organization... we have no data person we don't have any data analytics we don't use data enough in our decision making

David Frankle, Resident [Community Comment Period]Community Comment - Public Input on Non-Agenda Items

there's absolutely no reason the city of Edina should be using Tiff it's had an impact on the Edina Public Schools who are now running a deficit

David Frankle, Resident [Community Comment Period]Community Comment - Public Input on Non-Agenda Items

the topography along the back wall of the structure the South part combined with the larger setback requirements or average of the abutting structures at cul-de-sac presents a practical difficulty

Chris Aer, City Staff [Presentation]Public Hearing and Variance Approval - Front Yard Setback Variance, 4619 Town Circle

the further we push this into the hill the more excavating that has to happen on the backside and the more we impact the trees that are kind of the great big old growth trees that are on the back side of this property because of the steep slope

Dan Dees, Applicant/Architect [Response to Commissioner Question]Public Hearing and Variance Approval - Front Yard Setback Variance, 4619 Town Circle

there's a practical difficulty the steepness of the lot um the existing garage is smaller than average um and I think this is a perfectly good use of the variant setback

Commissioner [Deliberation]Public Hearing and Variance Approval - Front Yard Setback Variance, 4619 Town Circle

the comprehensive plan calls this a community Activity Center maximum density allowed here is up to 150 units an acre... the objective is to maximize pedestrian activity throughout the district with the public realm as the connective tissue that gives the district its unique identity

Carrie T, Community Development Director [Presentation]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

45% of this all of this public all of the area where the the trails the the connection through the site that makes up 45% of this entire site that would all be dedicated for public use

Carrie T, Community Development Director [Presentation]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

we don't want the public to not feel welcomed in this development and not have the feeling that oh I'm walking out of public right of way into a private development maybe I'm welcome here maybe I'm not... the intention is here is that this is a welcoming place for the entire public

Patrick, Enclave Development [Presentation]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

France Avenue is has very heavy traffic um just in like one peak hour of the day it's about 2,000 Vehicles along France Avenue um so if you look at our our peak hour traffic we're only adding about 400 um so really France Avenue can handle quite a bit more

Mallerie, WSB Traffic Engineer [Response to Commissioner Question]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

I have 1,349 off street parking spots in the facility 20% more than Edina recommends or requires and Edina is usually pretty expansive 30% more than the consultant recommends and I'm still parking cars on the middle of this beautiful place and I just can't believe it it has to be that way

Commissioner [Question on Parking]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

the activated Street room is not just a place for people to walk through but for people to interact with the building um and um and a lot of a lot of that street is faced with residences which are private um so I was starting to feel that the street was becoming more private than your prominade was starting to become more private than than public

Commissioner [Question on Pedestrian Activation]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

if you're in that Center prominade and you're looking at the first floor of the West two buildings there is zero uh residential at the first two levels it's actually even above on the Southwest Building so when you're sending sending that Center prominade between the two West buildings it's all commercial office lobby type uses that spill into that area

Patrick, Enclave Development [Response to Pedestrian Activation Question]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

we also need the additional height right again so you're just trying to generate additional Revenue that's what you're saying I mean because what I'm trying to hit on is feedback from the community that that I've seen so far about the height and the concern about the height here

Commissioner [Question on Height and TIF]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

we actually had higher buildings uh both buildings were higher at one point um and we went I think we went back through some of the boards and commissions even a couple times and um this is my anecdotal feedback was that it was mentioned several times that isn't the concern in fact we recommend pushing height uh that's not the main concern that the city has

Patrick, Enclave Development [Response on Height]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

I'm struggling a little bit with the logistics for all the uses um for trash huling drop off pick up move in big trucks fire uh access emergency access... I'm concerned about it bifurcating that prominade the way it I mean I just it feels like a lot in a little space

Commissioner [Question on Logistics]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

it is and it's one of the it's you know Patrick spoke about trying to strike balance between all of this right it's this is trying to find The Sweet Spot between making this about pedestrians first and not about Vehicles everywhere and so as we limit the number of roads in and around this trying to pinch those zones down into where these things happen it it does get limiting of where we can where we can achieve for sure

Christopher Wette, ESG Architecture [Response on Logistics]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

can you raise that pedestrian walkway going east west when it crosses that road in the middle... that is the intention of the design right now

Commissioner [Question on Parking Ratios]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue

admittedly we're looking at the parking here too and wondering if we can ratchet it back a little bit so we're actually going through that process right now to see if we can take out more so I want you to know that we're on the same page if we can reduce more parking we want to

Ben Landauer, Lifestyle Communities [Response on Parking Reduction]Public Hearing and Preliminary Rezoning/PUD - Mixed-Use Development, 7235 France Avenue