about a third of the property is occupied by water. And so with that 50ft setback from the edge of the water body um that you know encroaches about 97 ft from the rear of the property which is really not a condition that's uh present on most of these other properties.

It wasn't until 1992 that the 50 foot setback from the water body came into place. Prior to that, it was only 25 ft. Um, so I think if it had been 50 ft at the time, uh, these probably would have been platted a bit differently.

part of this uh addition of the on the main floor is to enhance the living space of a 75year-old home to be more accommodating to modern living. Um, and so it it's going to help them.

The non-conforming setback was allowed to be built in its current position on the lot when it was constructed in 1958 and is not a situation that was created by the current property owner.

the lot line is actually 17 ft off of where the curb is. So therefore, the house is actually an additional 27 ft from the the curb itself.

I just um want to point out that we have maybe not always treated the standard of um existing conditions uh the same. And so I um I think this is a reasonable request, but I'm putting that out for um my fellow commissioners to think about that sometimes we say, 'Oh, um this existed in the house when you bought it, so need to work through it and uh that cost prohibiting uh factors don't play in here.

We've only had this property under contract for about a month. We put it under contract in very, very early October, pretty immediately. Met with Carrie right afterwards to get some feedback preliminary from city staff. He urged us to get a sketch plan together and get it in front of you guys. Um, I understand that there was a Lincoln London small area plan. Um, just completed. A lot of work I think was gone into that. I did some reading over the weekend. Um, it was 95 pages. A lot of good stuff. The big highlight to me was the importance of community engagement in coming at what you guys wanted to see for this particular area.

I myself am an Edina resident. Um, I think that if you live anywhere south of Interlockan or north of the cross town on the west side of a 100, your options for gas and convenience are extremely limited and there are extremely large amount of people that live there.

I don't necessarily see a quick trip. I see a if if it had uses um where the teenagers could come hang out or um people could pick something up for, you know, taking home or um grab a little bite. not necessarily a place that makes food, but um so I the the size of the convenience store and um the types of products it sells doesn't seem like it's necessarily associated with a with a neighborhood or kind of a neighborhood thing that it's more about um the interstate.

I was part of that Lincoln London small area plan. Um spent a lot of time talking to the residents in this room tonight. And yeah, I would agree that this isn't this isn't really what we envisioned for this spot. Um and I think you have a tall ask and also in terms of the zoning change, the variance, the number of variances required, um and just getting community buy in here.

I don't think that this is what's this this type of use in this place is what was envisioned by the small area plan. Um, and I don't think the reasoning to a to a district that's just for gas stations and car washes is what was envisioned by that output. So, personally, I think it's maybe the wrong spot for but not not a bad business, not a bad concept, probably the wrong location. Um, given all the planning work that's gone around this site.

I mean, I could see a convenience store that had like a lot of pop-ups or supported a lot of local places really being popular over in this area because I think you do have to drive far to go to um a grocery store or get something. Um so, I could I could see a use for convenience there.

I think there's a lot of people who live in apartment buildings and things that don't charge their cars at their house. [Regarding electric vehicle chargers]

I think my first comment is just the irony of timing. I've been I've been on the commission for almost 10 years and we've done up a number of small area plans and almost always something comes in like right away and it isn't necessarily ideal from the vision of the small area plan.

I think there are aspects of this project like even though it's not exactly what you picture, I I do I see Quick Trips in general as convenience station stores. And so if you lpped off the north half of this and enhanced it, like I think there's something there that the community really could rally around.

if this convenience store was pushed closer to Lincoln Drive and there was a second entrance there and benches and people were gathering there or you just had a lot more green space and fewer stalls and fewer parking spaces because you don't really need them but you know like that's the kind of thing that exists now and it works and people like it and use it. This doesn't exist and may not work in the city let alone here.

I guess a question for you, Commissioner Felt, is like say again, say there were no gas pumps, you know, and we're just looking at the convenient store. Do you still feel that way about location?

Well, one of the things that um everyone in the apartment complex wanted was someplace to go get beer so they can go back to the pool, right? And not drive down to Eden Prairie or something like that. So, that's where the idea of the convenience store kind of came from. Um, so a place to kind of grab something and hang out, I'd be much more for it. It's it's the 10 pumps that are bothering me.

I mean, I think the existing gas stations in this community are built were built the way they were built because that was what the industry was at the time of their construction. This is what the industry is now. And I don't think there's been a new gas station constructed in it in many many years.

It was 1999. They It's now a holiday station off of Highway 100 and Edina Industrial Boulevard by the Dairy Queen.