CompletedCity Council Work Session Jan. 21, 2025

City Council Work Session Jan. 21, 2025

Date: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 4:42 PMActual: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 4:42 PM

1. Call to Order 2. Roll Call 3. Meeting Topics 3.1. Update on Edina Art Center Colocation at Southdale Library 3.2. Aquatic Center Pump Room 4. Adjournment   Where to Watch: Meetings of the Edina City Council are typically held 7 p.m. the first and third Tuesdays of the month in Edina City Hall, 4801 W. 50th St. The Council holds other special meetings from time to time. Meetings of the Edina City Council are shown live on Edina TV and the City’s website. They are rebroadcast on Edina TV at 3 a.m. and 11 a.m. Sundays and Wednesdays, and 7 p.m. Tuesdays and Saturdays until the Council’s next meeting. Edina TV is available to Comcast subscribers (https://www.xfinity.com/) on Channel 813 (high definition) and Channel 16 (standard definition).   Listen Online: Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6Xz19PKI4KRbV1CBjOKDHz?si=f8c977f118ad426f) Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/edina-city-council-meetings/id1760404514) YouTube  (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlz4oOYMFxF-E7lwoGL2RHd38IO2fLVM2) Amazon Music (https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/36681e98-f083-4c32-9ba4-085727009b8f/edina-city-council) Pandora (https://www.pandora.com/podcast/edina-city-council/PC:1001090290) To learn more about the Edina City Council, visit EdinaMN.gov/citycouncil.  

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[0:00] let me know when you're okay all right well good evening everybody it is the [0:06] city council work session for the city of VI city council it is January 21 2025 got a couple of interesting topics [0:13] I think one more fascinating than the other and I'm not talking about the Aquatic Center pump [0:19] room I'm talking about the library and uh that's when we're taking [0:25] up first which is appropriate so we'll save the pump room for the uh last five minutes or [0:32] so okay um anyway we're going to turn it [0:37] over to per veter our park and rec director who's going to help with an update but first let's go around the [0:43] room and introduce ourselves we need to do roll call too so um you want to do roll call uh I'm [0:49] calling the meeting in order counc herec [0:55] herec here here here and then let start back with you again chair and introduce [1:01] yourself please and speaker har vet Parks and Recreation director Scott Neil the city manager Kate AG Council James [1:08] Pierce councel J hin councel carollyn Jackson councel Julie rer councel Ari [1:14] lens assistant city manager Laura wesland arts and culture commission Jen Faith arts and culture commission an [1:21] Marie curtain arts and culture commission Alana Zaron arts and culture [1:26] commission Ryan Browning IT director L fon Edina Art Center Janette Colby Edina [1:32] Art Center I am Jennifer benad I'm the communications director I'm Nick Anheim [1:38] I'm a Financial Consultant for the [1:44] city D facility manager Li Johnson City Manager hello uh Tracy Peterson [1:49] assistant director of recreation facilities Hotel Finance director thank you all right Perry back [1:56] to you right thank you mayor members of the council this evening we're going to talk give you update on hopen County Library project and also the D Art [2:03] Center collocation within that um I always joke that if it's been longer [2:08] than 30 days we need to remind you so um just a brief bit of history on how we kind of got to this point uh the history [2:15] of the art center so most of you know some may not is that uh Lee and Ross [2:20] Miller built a home um in 1948 and lived there until they sold the property of [2:25] the city of Ed in 1976 uh shortly thereafter the Art Center was opened within that home uh [2:32] 1990 and 1997 uh two expansions were conducted and then ever since 2007 um we've been [2:40] in a study uh study and report on the edana Arts Center with uh several [2:45] planning efforts uh none of them have moved forward uh in I'll kind of skip ahead but um we'll [2:53] kind of get back to some of these uh more recent dates here in a second um [2:59] the city council uh retreat in 2021 we kind of talked to you about a spectrum [3:05] of options uh for the arch Center and we really looked at it kind of in uh six [3:11] kind of spaces that we could move forward in um all had positives all had some drawbacks uh the first was just art [3:18] as a program and that's currentl…

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Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project

Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement

Funding Options for Aquatic Center Pump Room Project

Arts Center Facility Transition and Rosland Park Future Use

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No formal vote recorded; work session for information and discussion purposes
No formal vote recorded; work session for information and discussion purposes. Council directed staff to proceed with CM@Risk RFP release and pursue tax abatement as primary funding mechanism while exploring parallel state bonding and local option sales tax extension options.

the history of the art center so most of you know some may not is that uh Lee and Ross Miller built a home um in 1948 and lived there until they sold the property of the city of Ed in 1976 uh shortly thereafter the Art Center was opened within that home

Perry Vetter, Parks and Recreation Director [2:03-2:08]Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

the amazing thing about this partnership is because of those shared spaces of what henpen county would bill us is that dollar amount comes down to about $370 a square foot so very advantageous to us

Perry Vetter, Parks and Recreation Director [8:39-8:51]Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

instead of a price tag of 31.7 million um over that 40-year period of being a tenant and not an owner um our price is going to be about 6.8 million so um you know about that you know a fifish or so of doing this on our own

Perry Vetter, Parks and Recreation Director [9:12-9:24]Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

you're going to mostly come up upstairs right here through a really nice area that this is the main entrance into the um building admin is going to be all located over here with a few offices but when you come up the stairs you'll be greeted by our reception space here if you're taking a class there'll be a screen that then directs you to whichever classroom you're going into if you're not here for a class and you just want to come down and enjoy the gallery space or walk down through here there'll be an area to come in this will all be glass and you can see all the different stuff in the gallery

Janette Colby, Edina Art Center [19:46-20:37]Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

the exposure that our art center will get in this location is pretty extraordinary I mean the soud library is not just any Dino Library it's a Richfield Library it's a Bloomington library I mean this the our community really expands in this location and as you can see it's it's so visible in the building like you walk in and you look up and there's the art center

Arts and Culture Commission Member [33:22-33:40]Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

but more on that side of things um we did talk about doing a master plan for rosin Park and asking people about how they would want to use you know something in that location um I don't think it's feasible to fix that building

Council Member [31:32-31:37]Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

in 2021 um we had a major electrical failure out there um and we've highlighted that Transformer because we wanted to talk about some of the um stipulations that came from that failure um when we went through and started to sus through some of the issues that we had there we found out that the type of system and power that is supplied to the Aquatic Center is old and Antiquated so we really had to kind of scramble to find parts and pieces that could go in there

Derek, Facility Manager [42:49-43:12]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

a surge tank basically is um if you have your pool at Max Capacity the water that's displaced from those bodies going into it has to go somewhere currently ours go into adequately undersized tanks and then whatever doesn't get displaced goes down the drain right straight into you know the city sanitary sewer lines um and then ultimately that water has to be made up right so you can't have a 6inch depth change um so we're constantly putting clean water down the drain and then refilling it again

Derek, Facility Manager [43:53-44:07]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

maintenance in this building is not easy to do operational challenges come um with a space of this size from the costic nature of the room not being able to ventilated properly that's led to some of this um Decay and and rust and things like that

Derek, Facility Manager [45:22-45:28]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

every season since I started in 2020 um we've had some type of major catastrophe out there we were able to keep the pool operating but it's taken a lot of Staff time from both the parks and rec department but also the facility tourament um where we're going in there and you know making repairs to electrical systems making repairs to with the pumps uh babysitting is a big thing I I couldn't put a exact dollar amount on it but I would say in the last four years we've probably spent in the excess of50 to $100,000 of just maintenance between staff and um actual equipment costs out there

Derek, Facility Manager [1:04:10-1:04:27]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

municipalities can borrow for certain types of projects uh Illustrated through the statutes so pardon my voice I'm sorry um you certainly can go out to a referendum the rest of us have been there are still trying to get rid of it fortunately I was willing too loudly I feel fine and you're lost and we lost sorry man forgot it's all right um there a joke in there somewhere feel good sound bad

Nick Anheim, Financial Consultant [51:07-52:05]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

all three of those options at the top as far as a bond is concerned once you go through the process and authorize them they cost exactly the same they provide the same level of security to the bond holder there's no difference in the interest rate that you would see you can pair them with other projects and funding sources HRA also has the ability to finance facilities facility improvements uh through a public project Revenue Bond the city has used that in the past in certain circumstances that it would be a different form of bond it's a annual appropriation pledge as opposed to IR revical Le Levy and so it does price slightly differently it would be a little bit more expensive in terms of Interest costs and transactional fees

Nick Anheim, Financial Consultant [52:28-53:11]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

the special law in particular we are limited in the fact that we do have to demonstrate that the actual Enterprise itself Aquatic Center liquor fund and uh those pledged sources have the capacity to be able to pay back that debt so the net revenue that they are generating uh pulled together has to be able to cover the forecast of debt payments in order to actually authorize it

Nick Anheim, Financial Consultant [54:05-54:27]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

I don't think we've done a tax payment deal here yet have we no the city has not has not used that um tax batment can be used for quite a few different types of projects facilities public infrastructure Economic Development um Eden Prairie did a tax abatement to fund their Aquatic Center

Council Member [1:02:12-1:02:19]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

couldn't we run two tracks on this the track you're talking about and then couldn't we put something together to go to the legislature to get I mean we had 75% of the people using this are not from Idina it's a regional asset why can't we go and try get some bonding money we can and we are asking we actually met with representative green this afternoon who will introduce a bill for this her initial reaction though was in all likelihood she does not have a strong outlook on it but she will carry it

Mayor [1:06:14-1:06:28]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

we would then engage them to work on scheduling and hiring some contractors with the hopes that sometime in this summer and this fall we would see some activity out there um to you know actually start constructing the new building as we've put together couldn't we run two tracks on this the track you're talking about and then couldn't we put something together to go to the legislature

Derek, Facility Manager [1:05:22-1:05:34]Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

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