[0:00] that's great yeah sorry about that my uh I had an event at my son's school which always takes priority oh yeah but I was [0:07] asleep it was like three hour event and I'm like an hour event is about the thank you so [0:15] much that's part ofg [0:22] child this is the of end of summer jackets one of these light ones you know [0:29] [Music] [0:38] I know I know I'm trying to be more proactive to like letting people I mean obviously when you guys did it in 2008 [0:45] i' never earlier [0:56] version people to think about whether they were blocking Bianca glad you're representing with the shirt [1:05] oh T are done so I know time time for you to shine again that [1:11] part yep they can come to come support our game you know I will [1:20] be after he going back down to the L yeah of course recording folks so um we [1:27] got quite a bit of work to do hour and a half or so uh this is the city council [1:33] work session for the city wean the city council and we are in the community room it is Tuesday October 1st 2024 5:116 [1:41] p.m. and I'm going to call the meeting order and ask Sharon Allison or Kirk to call the role for the council council [1:47] member Jackson here council member Pierce here council member rer here mayor hlin here council member ad is [1:55] absent all right very good um Scott you were going to introduce I think some [2:01] topics here we're going to address proposed commission work plans in sequence and you told me at noon when [2:07] met Ilan Omar you were going to be the timer I did friendly timer friendly [2:12] timer okay goad so this is the first step in in a process that we've used here in ad for about 10 years where we [2:21] we try to we do our best to intersect with with what the council and what [2:26] boards and commissions want to do in the community uh we frequent ly uh have this [2:31] this Dynamic where boards and commissions will say what do you what do you want us to work on and Council will [2:37] say well what do you all want to work on and we and we don't you know we spend a lot of time trying to figure our way out [2:43] of that but but what we've done uh to deal with that in the past and again [2:48] tonight is we've asked boards and commissions to have some put some time into uh thinking about what they would [2:54] like to accomplish in the upcoming year and to bring that to you tonight unmitigated uh by by City staff review [3:01] right we want boards and commissions to have that fresh opportunity to tell you directly what it is they want to do we [3:08] will we speaking as staff will have a chance later in November to come back and say uh that you know judge the kind [3:16] of the feasibility advisability of of the different kinds of initiatives that we're talking about but we really want [3:21] you to hear and see from them directly first so we have a we have a a lineup tonight it's going to start with hrrc [3:29] and I'm going to turn it over to Mr Thomas Brooks Thomas yeah uh thanks [3:34] Scott uh mayor and Council I will be very brief um so our chair of the HRC [3:42] Daisy kifa is here as well as commissioner Dawkins um and they're going to actually present the updates to [3:48] you but also want to recognize our vice chair [3:54] um uh Vice chair Rogers is here as well and then commissioner Stone um is here as well [4:00] RC um and they are going to be be providing [4:05] you with maybe a different update than you've seen in recent years um but I [4:11] actually want to touch on um sort of one thing in particular that you are going to hear probably multiple times [4:17] throughout both of their updates and that is the equity strategic action plan um so from the um RAC and Equity task [4:25] force uh work that happened um in the city's recent history um big piece of [4:30] that was developing um a larger Equity strategic action plan very similar to [4:35] what you're already familiar with with like the climate action plan um so there have been some delays in getting that [4:42] plan created just with my position being bacon and um having to redirect resources in other directions but uh we [4:49] are ready and poised to start developing that work plan um in January of next [4:55] year or early next year um that is going to be a pretty sort of intensive process um to of um [5:03] looking at you know pass uh pass reports pass data recent data and then of course [5:10] um partner feedback throughout that entire process um and so one of those work plan items is really for the [5:16] commission to be kind of closely aligned with staff's work to develop that plan [5:22] um so I'll leave it there um I'll just say more information is to come on that Equity strategic action plan we are [5:29] looking to to work with a consultant that specializes in um I would say a [5:35] very unique product for um local government in the nonprofit space um [5:41] that I am like 100% confident that will be able to execute here in Adina so excited to bring that to you and you'll [5:47] see more information uh for approval coming up at the meeting on [5:52] 10:15 um so with that said um I'll turn it over to uh chair kipa all right uh [5:59] hello uh uh my name is Daisy Khalifa I'm a commissioner on the human rights and relations commission and um I'm here to [6:06] just uh present what our our 2025 work plan is and and to talk about um some [6:12] shifts that we are proposing that we make and I wanted to give a quick recap um about the city of Adina and its [6:19] history in human rights and relations and and then just get into and then Bianca commissioner Dawkins will talk [6:25] about facets of the 2025 proposed work plan so uh to to begin the city of Adina [6:32] has a 50 plus year history of working to support the human rights of all [6:37] community members um and so before we get into the work plan items we just wanted to [6:43] recognize the achievements of our current and past human rights Commissioners in bringing the city to [6:49] where we are today a quick recap um The Journey began the human rights journey [6:55] in ad began with an ad hoc human rights commit committee and it became the Human [7:00] Rights Commission in 1968 uh primarily consisting of a local [7:05] um elected leaders uh in 2004 the committee was renamed the human rights [7:11] and relations commission um in 2016 um the following societal concerns [7:19] about racial disparities and some um problems going on uh that were very [7:26] apparent um the city created the race and a race and Equity task force which [7:32] over the over the year over two years came up with 21 recommendations to improve city programs [7:39] services and policy um and this led to the creation of the job that Thomas occupies the [7:45] equity and inclusion manager to provide leadership and coordination of race and Equity [7:52] recommendations so as of now today um as [7:57] you can see here the city staff uh Works to continue uh to work toward embedding equity and inclusion into the [8:03] decision-making processes and Implement Equity as one of five guiding values for [8:09] decision making that are Equity engagement sustainability health and [8:15] stewardship and they work toward leveraging data and input to prioritize [8:21] and develop the first Equity strategic action plan in 2025 some of the accomplishments in the [8:29] past past uh years um nearly 10 years um [8:34] were involved public policy advocacy the vote no campaign the domestic partner [8:41] registry ongoing Proclamation support race and Equity task force [8:47] participation bias complaint resolution processes uh the event and annual event [8:53] sharing values and sharing communities which is happening in another two weeks [8:58] uh here um and we have done that every year uh the Tom o award and another [9:06] event days of remembrance which takes place in May um the today the C the human rights [9:14] and relations commission have centered the importance of diversity Equity inclusion and basic [9:22] human rights in A din um through building staff capacity [9:27] and Community supportive equity and inclusion the city has a strong foundation for future Strategic Equity [9:34] initiatives there are questions that we've been considering as a commission and um this is because in the [9:41] past few years we're we're kind of looking at how our events have been received and how our work is progressing [9:48] and so we have asked what the role is of the commission and how has the scope and [9:54] purpose of the commission changed is the current commission structure best for engaging community [10:01] members in an intentional and inclusive way for the hrrc and then and how do we improve the [10:08] engagement experience for current and future community members how do we create a stronger and more time and more [10:14] timely relationships between staff and the community and these questions have led [10:21] us to have present a very revised uh 2025 work plan and Bianca [10:28] will be talking about that and it consists of two overarching work plan [10:34] items and one as Thomas mentioned is to assist the city's staff um with the [10:40] development of the equity strategic action plan in 2025 and be very [10:45] instrumental in helping and supporting him and the next is uh research and [10:51] discussion of the role of commun of community in City decision making uh [10:56] inclusive of intentional engagement and the future role and scope of the [11:01] commission and to that end Bianca will talk a little bit more about these two [11:07] items and where we see the commission going as of next year yeah well [11:14] absolutely thank you so much for that commissioner Stacy um and so I'll be talking about the ass that's what it [11:20] says the ass and so really um I'm here to really talk about how we can deepen [11:26] our impact and also really support the sustain ility of the inclusion efforts for the city um primarily the role that [11:34] Thomas is sitting in and so we see that being something that's really pivotal to our community I'm personally excited [11:40] about it as a DI practitioner knowing that we have this role now that's actually going to be permanent and [11:46] somebody we can come to and call on um in our city and so as we thought about and before even Thomas got into his role [11:52] when we heard about the Dei manager coming on board we were really excited but we also were really curious about [11:58] how we're going to make impact within our role um as a committee a commission and so we started to have a lot of [12:05] conversation very healthy conversations um which I really appreciate because we all we thought about like how does this [12:12] one challenge our own power as a commission but how do we leverage this idea of a task force to ensure that our [12:19] city is actually invested in Dei in a way that's actually forward moving and [12:25] so for us some of the things I'll just read some of these corns that we talked about um that Daisy um had mentioned was [12:31] Community engagement that's important for us a lot of us on the commission have um a lot of network and we feel [12:37] like we've been underutilized and so that's something that we really want to make sure that we're able to bring to [12:43] the table is what are our personally lived experiences and how do we leverage those within this um commission to [12:49] really further the city's what what we're doing what we're trying to do in terms of um inclusion efforts personally [12:56] um as I've been think in the city for for four years um and the awards are [13:02] great time away um is great but I think that as we continue to think about what the future is I think we can be really [13:08] deepening how we engage with the community how we uplift people and for me I think the way that we're going with [13:14] the task force actually gives us more power um to actually be able to be [13:19] Consultants to other potential commissions to say how can we take a Dei lends to what we're thinking about when [13:25] it comes to planning sustainability environment efforts and so I think that this is something that's going to allow [13:31] us to be able to have a greater lens when it comes to inclusion um one thing we also talked about was proposing um [13:39] more of a focus on assisting the city staff with the development of the equity strategic action plan which I think is [13:45] really powerful and as I actually reflected over the weekend on it I was like that's actually something I could [13:51] say to my kids that I actually was able to impact and so thinking about that strategy is really important um and as [13:58] we know when it comes to Dei work and sometimes we call it di work um it's important that we have a strategy that [14:05] we can actually quantify and talk about how is actually changing our city and I know everybody looks like their love [14:11] data in this room so I think it's important that we have numbers and data that drives like our story and tells [14:17] what we're trying to do in this city um and I also love that we talk about [14:22] creating a more flexibility for us I know me I work across four teams and so thinking about [14:29] how I can be more flexible and strategic even in my role and how I show up for the city it's really important and also [14:35] bringing additional voices and perspectives to how we do our work um what did I miss uh talking about days of [14:42] remembrance I think for me we've done a great job there but I think we've also [14:48] haven't done that platform of good service right I think sometimes we're looking at certain days um that could be [14:55] somber to communities I don't know if we're actually re-traumatizing people and so so for me it's important that we [15:01] follow the direction of MJ of Thomas and really see how we can support and uplift and sustain their roles um but that's [15:08] all I have I think um I've covered all of the talking points and I think we're I think that the one well well the most [15:15] important thing is that we're asking here to transform somewhat or shift [15:20] shift a little bit the our uh um the way we are organized as a commission and [15:27] that we um were asking Council to consider moving members into the commission members currently into an ad [15:34] hoc equity and engagement task force um in effective as soon as POS in 2025 in [15:43] order to Foster deeper discussion on community engagement and future direction of the [15:48] commission um I think it will allow us a great deal of flexibility to have uh [15:54] more uh frequent and perhaps deeper and and more uh you know uh consistent [16:00] discussions about things that we'd like to see accomplished um and and so I think the [16:07] significant ask the the the thing that we're underlining here [16:12] is becoming a task force Vice a commission and to see you know how that [16:19] um might pan out but we believe that it will allow a nicer a more open [16:24] relationship and open up Channels with between us as a task force and City staff and actually make that an easier [16:32] way of of working together in order to work on esap for example which is a [16:37] central part of what we would do next year and and also in terms of planning events working with [16:43] Communications doing things where we could be directly involved and and there wouldn't wouldn't feel like there were [16:50] timelines and firewalls and delays and so this this um we think that the transparency that you know we could [16:57] enjoy would be a very positive thing particularly for this commission for [17:02] human rights and relations going forward we're we're not dissolving our commission right I like to think of it [17:08] as taking a vacation from our home and really trying to be more intentional about how we're building and so as we [17:14] you may have heard strategic a lot and deepening and that's what we're really grounding ourselves on and those [17:20] principles for what we do because our commission for us like we all bring our passion to the table and this is [17:26] something that we want to do for our people and so we take our roles and both I mean we'll be honestly wearing two [17:32] hats in this and so we're committing to that and as um commissioner Khalifa mentioned like we're just wanting to [17:39] commit to commit to being more strategic and be able to make sure our work is [17:44] providing impact for the [17:49] city we have a little how we doing on time we do we I have well well the memo that [17:58] you wrote that you addressed that this sort of encompasses I don't know if that's been read or understood or how y [18:04] they were Prov so that is the October 1 Memo from MJ certainly outlined the [18:10] situation and gave some background um and and you know contains that ask that [18:16] is you know um might seem significant but really I think it's a way of utilizing this Commission in a way where [18:23] we're just tied more tied in a bit more with Thomas' efforts and with the city's [18:30] efforts uh in uh equity and and in uh any kind of activities and events that [18:36] we stage going forward yeah I'm up two minds on this so [18:42] commissioner Dawkins I'm glad you mentioned that the commission is not going because we your plan is very wonderful [18:50] and I I want to prace by saying that and super exciting but it's also premised on a stable [18:56] world and if we we have an election coming up and if [19:01] it goes one way we're going to have immigrant populations we're going to have um lgbq plus people who are going [19:11] to be at risk and so I I I you're going off the energy that we've been feeding [19:17] you and and the talents that you guys have but I I just want to make sure that we understand that we could be seeing uh [19:25] immigrant populations especially Hispanic immigrant populations very frightened um in in the months to come [19:32] and that may derail a lot of this um at least in my mind it would because you [19:37] know the idea of being shipped to a country you've never lived in um is is pretty terrifying so I just want to put [19:45] that in in terms of a context of the world that we live in um but assuming [19:50] it's a it remains to be a safe safe and stable World um without anything [19:55] disastrous coming um I think this is super exciting it really goes to the [20:01] heart of what's been uh issue for me at least is like how do we engage the [20:07] community how do we use the talents of a people we put on the especially the hrrc in particular and I love that the energy [20:15] and the direction that you're taking let's let's just open it up and and see where we go and and see how we can use our talent so I I love that but I do do [20:22] want to caution that you know Tom oi was um uh Japanese and he was in en cment [20:29] and that world doesn't seem so far away suddenly so that's when I see his name that that echoed with me so I just [20:36] wanted to say that one part but thank you for the hard work this is really exciting yeah no I appreciate that point [20:41] of view too I think part of our role we talked about it on the commission is like also kind of helping mitigate some [20:48] of those like false narratives because it's not all bad right and I think if we can come to a a holistic approach like [20:56] there are going to be things that we are not going to off always be able to control but we're trying to move forward [21:02] in it and I there's more good Dei happening than not and so um just [21:07] helping kind of help shape those narratives of how our city is seeing too and right now it's not very inclusive [21:13] and so I think just thinking about a more approach that we can help with the city even if it's Communications around [21:19] things I think are important so and also I think from an execution standpoint the hrrc has felt as if I mean perhaps and [21:27] Tomo is a great example because in in one sense it seems a little bit hung up [21:32] and it is not getting the exposure it should be should could have and as with us as a task force perhaps we would be [21:40] able to work faster and in a more timely way to communicate it in you know sort [21:45] of hand inand with the communications people here we could do the leg work but [21:50] there are certain things that feel like they've move a little more slowly and they aren't conveyed properly and and [21:56] they they they thin out and they sort of go away and we don't uh in terms of attendance to events or whatever that [22:02] that would be so there's something about that sort of day-to-day that is appealing in terms of how we work but [22:09] still I understand appreciate the commission construct and what you're you're saying so I [22:16] um the first one I've talked about that quite a bit [22:22] we do need to have more inclusive community engagement um and so I think that [22:29] warrants a lot of effort to figure out how do we do that and how do we do it in [22:35] a sustainable way um so I I love that [22:40] the um Equity strategic action plan I don't actually know what that is and so [22:47] what I would say for that it's great anytime you see strategic action in a [22:54] plan right that's those are the right words words um and so I would just say I don't know [23:02] what the process is if we move forward with that but as a council we need to [23:08] engage in helping frame all right then what are we actually going to do within [23:15] that task force um and so I think we have to commit to leaning in to help [23:20] shape that so that you guys have the direction um that you need so that you [23:25] can achieve the outcomes um then the last thing I'd say is the rent Equity [23:31] task force we came up with a a bunch of ideas recommendations and I think most [23:39] of those have been implemented but kind of underlying all of that is this [23:45] concept that at some point you do have to have a community and a city staff [23:52] kind of embrace these Concepts and they have to become part of the fabric of how [23:58] how we live work and play as a community um and so part of this action plan I [24:06] want kind of this principled idea that we want to as often as we can or as [24:12] quickly as we can going through the process get to a point where we don't [24:17] need kind of this oversight to make sure that the community has opportunities and [24:24] activities to engage this oversight to make sure the city staff is being [24:31] inclusive um we have to at some point get to a state where all of these things [24:39] are just infused in how we like I said um work and play and live and so that's [24:46] what I'm hoping that we'll be able to get to as part of the process of the Strategic action plan well hopefully the [24:53] equity strategic action plan it it is it seems like it is in intended to be the [24:59] overarching guide uh guidelines for you know sort of a a a document that is [25:06] extremely important with a lot you know carries a fair amount of gravity in terms of how the city moves forward with [25:13] its program so so you did that Dei work back in 2016 and 2018 as part of the was [25:20] and Equity task force the task force was how many were there a couple dozen no no [25:28] a dozen probably a dozen there weren't 24 people on the task force not on the [25:34] task force itself but throughout the different team you had big events yeah oh yeah you had team events what it was [25:39] a a group of nine nine and then how did what was the interaction between the [25:45] hrrc and the task for members of the HRC [25:50] served in capacity throughout the race and Equity task force one person was on the task force a couple were on working [25:56] groups and some participated in here but it wasn't just composed of no [26:04] people from hrrc no that's where we found James and and just everything we did was [26:11] open too so yeah anybody can come I'm just trying to figure out what why [26:18] Depart from hrrc and have a task force I still going quite [26:25] understand the logic of it but that's why I'm trying to use this as a parallel [26:31] well the one thing I would say I I don't know if this is true or not but this is the way I internalized it the uh task [26:40] force like I mentioned it was all open and so whatever was on the agenda for [26:46] that night we would have people that would show up for part of it and we had [26:52] Consultants too we had a consultant as well um I never felt like a commission [26:58] was open to that extent maybe legally it is but I don't think people engage with [27:05] it that way that's valid that is almost that's [27:11] precisely what we're suggesting I believe in the M also said that there weren't like term limits so some of the [27:17] people who had termed off the hrrc were still willing to serve and this would give them the opportunity yes you could [27:23] retain that institutional knowledge um for the sake of time um what the big ass that um is really those two work plan [27:30] ideas and is this the right direction to have a group of individuals work on that structure and model we can come back at [27:36] a later date and really dig a little bit more into like why why would this make better sense um but it but if we get [27:42] that General feedback that like Council feels like these are the right things to focus on in 2025 that at least gives us [27:47] enough to move forward you're not actually approving these tonight you're just you're reviewing them yeah I I think it's [27:54] important for us to have a a good understanding of the scope of the task force and I would hope that it would be [28:01] very broad um so I just want to get that out I think before I think before the [28:08] council set this cope work yeah we work yet formed up and then I'm assuming that [28:15] just a quick process question that when the task force Dei task force finish [28:21] their rais Equity task force you went to hrrc and they adopted [28:27] and then we then the Council adoped they did not the right to council the task force was not accountable to the [28:33] commission they were a a city council task force okay yep okay thanks for [28:42] that Community Health commission if the yeah HRC is going to [28:48] take off if the chairs of the other commissions can come to the table we can pull up chairs from the perimeter as well [29:03] and at the very last slide I do have the ordering kind of the timing we're going to stick to that six to seven minutes [29:09] and Scott's going to help us with some timing I like [29:16] this it like yeah fine [29:23] okay all right I'm going to keep my information brief because you've definitely seen um this slide on the [29:29] Citywide process where um our commission work plans are in annual process we are looking at um making some adjustments to [29:35] the process which again we'll bring back to you later but currently this is um an annual process for us uh today so the [29:43] chairs are going to present their work plan proposals I've asked them to um spend less time on the things they do on a yearly basis spend more time on the [29:49] things that might need more clarity Council your job is to ask questions make sure that you're understanding the scope and what the commission is asking [29:56] or proposing um there are are Liaisons that are available for questions if needed on November 6 Scott alluded to [30:02] this that we're going to come back and present some um recommendations for those work plan proposals staff liaison [30:08] again will be back for um questions and then really that's the opportunity for um city council to provide feedback um [30:14] for staff to develop the final recommendations here is our presentation order tonight and we're just five [30:20] minutes behind so I think we'll be okay um but we're going to kick it off with the Community Health commission Mary abela I'm the chair of [30:28] Community Health commission happy to see you all again um I'm going to uh do something a little bit different and go [30:34] right to what's on our parking lot because it relates to what you were just discussing under the Human Rights [30:39] Commission um and so uh we had quite a bit of discussion on our commission [30:44] related to uh focus on Declaration of racism as a public health emergency and [30:50] because of our City's work on the equity strategic action plan that you just heard about we have uh met with staff [30:58] recently in September and so we're placing that on our parking lot and we'll be working together on that and so [31:05] I want you to rest assured that that is uh was quite a focus of our conversation [31:10] but we thought that uh we're all part of a system here in the city that would makes more sense that we would work [31:15] together on uh with that whole initiative so uh that's how that uh is [31:22] um at so it's not gone away uh because we've had that on our work plan actually for um um a year or two here then going [31:30] to our uh couple of items that we have in our work plan and we have four the first one is our initiative that we [31:36] would recommend is a study in the report related to uh mental health and our connections with our school systems in [31:43] students and how to share that information uh the commission is concerned about how we have you know the [31:49] school districts are a separate district and we are a city so we really want to uh look at and understand how that works [31:56] and how we can support our students mental health and so uh we would look at [32:01] other um cities that kind of thing and so this would be a study and Report the [32:07] second area that we have relates to social connectedness as you know uh as coming [32:12] off of the pandemic and we uh uh were very pleased this last year uh to have [32:19] hosted a uh an event uh where we were working across uh the cities uh within [32:25] Bloomington and Richfield uh with a group when we had an event here in Idina [32:30] uh related to Social connectedness and multigen generational events and so we [32:36] want to continue with that momentum and to look at ways that we could study and report on how to fund and execute those [32:44] uh we are um we're pretty excited about what happened with that uh event and it [32:49] was something that very much tied into the last topic you were just hearing about as well as multigenerational and [32:55] as as a reminder the city of Edina has has a significantly uh a large population of [33:01] people that are older in our city and who live in their homes in comparison to other local jurisdictions in our area [33:09] the third one that we're talking about doing which is another studying report I'm kind of like a a positive and you [33:15] know Healthcare really affects all of us and in all kinds of different ways but to really look at uh how Edina is a [33:23] healthy place to work and so what we want to do is to be able to identify those [33:28] and uh uh not to necessarily fix something but to highlight why is Zina a [33:34] healthy place and we think that we have that information within our current resources that we would take a couple of [33:40] interviews um such as you know um how far does every home any Dino from a park for example and we would like to see [33:47] some ways to kind of highlight that as a healthy place to live or that kind of thing so we were um so that was that's [33:54] the uh notion behind that and uh and so that was uh that was that we think that [34:01] there's a lot of things that we're already doing here we can just uh uh kind of pull it up on our list and [34:06] obviously learn something in the fourth area on a more serious note relates to [34:11] our ongoing work uh with opioid the opio settlement uh fund stakeholder work group we currently have a couple of us [34:18] that are serving on the um multi City uh uh stakeholders work group that are [34:24] working on that was a little bit of a uh delayed over there in terms of uh exercising those funds because of some [34:30] staff transitions within the uh city of Bloomington that have gotten propped up [34:35] and uh they're moving forward in terms of an RFP in more detail uh in terms of [34:42] uh getting that that initiative and we want to continue to be part of that and to serve on that opioid stakeholder work [34:50] group that's it and uh be happy to take notes and listen and bring that back to [34:56] our commission on your ideas questions or comments from Council Members so having interviewed the [35:02] student Commissioners and Kate did too oh yeah thank you for listening to them [35:07] and and looking at the mental health of students I the number of kids we interviewed in and like over the last [35:13] three years for student Commissioners who said I'm really worried about mental health at the kids at the high school um [35:20] and so that was really important one thing I would um what popped out at me when I looked at that initiative is the [35:27] word student and I know that you'd be working with the schools but I would like from a city perspective to think of [35:33] teenagers or young people or children because we serve all kids not just the [35:40] ones who are in a particular school system um and whether they're homeschooled whether they're in [35:46] Richfield schools or Edina schools or private schools um I want to make sure that we have that lens of of all the [35:52] kids and then coupling that with number four um when the sheriff came to speak [35:58] to us and I believe maybe you were here that night when she she came to speak she said it's very important for adults [36:04] in kids' lives to talk about opioids and the threat of fanol so I hope that that [36:09] is part of I know it's about mental health but um I can't stress that enough that kids need to hear adults say this [36:17] is dangerous um and so I'm just going to say that every time we talk about students in health in Edina because I'm [36:23] very worried about a kid overdosing um that would be just [36:31] thank you thank [36:38] you thanks to Jeff for all his support all you Parks and Recreation all [36:45] right thank you very much I'm Jamie P Vice chair of the Parks and Recreation Commission um we've got five items on [36:52] our work plan to talk about tonight two of them are continuations so I'll just go very very briefly to respectful of [36:59] everyone's time over those one is to review and comment on the Brar Arena implementation and obviously that's an [37:05] ongoing component um so we will continue to support that um our deliverers will be that in a review and comment as we [37:12] move forward obviously engaging stakeholders and focus groups as necessary uh number two is review and [37:18] compare Park shelter building amenities and functions again a continuation um we made some progress this year our [37:25] commissioners working on this um part particular one but we need more time to continue moving forward and this is a a [37:32] really critical um component that we're looking at how to build some consistency and making sure that we're maximizing [37:39] all of our resources to build the best products for uh those parks and communities this again is a report and [37:45] study um number three is new um and this is really something that we're looking [37:52] at proactively um it was very exciting we have a lot of the new initiatives our commissioners are very excited to move [37:57] forward with these but this is proactive and helping parks and recre look at their strategic plan every 10 years they [38:04] do a a review of that and present something new so this is getting ready for that 2026 and using our skills and [38:11] the commissioner skills and the support of the department to start building out what makes sense for that that is a [38:17] study and report number four is really a new but a [38:22] continuation we did in 2023 bring forth uh feas ility for alternative funding [38:30] strategies um and we're not satisfied that we're done with that work in the commission we think that in looking at [38:36] Cost structures and looking at the parks and wrecks and some of the things that may need resources um we think that [38:43] there's a lot of again we talked about the Aging Community even in Idina that there's opportunities for alternative [38:49] funding and figuring things that work within the other commissions and what makes sense there so we'd like to [38:54] continue that on and we'd like to bring this to a review and make a recommendation back to the council as [39:00] how to look at those alternative structure funding structures and actually have something that may be [39:05] implementable off of that um and then our last one is really kind of looking [39:11] at the commute the climate action plan priorities a lot of those we are um in [39:17] in the Parks and wreck required to build those into the work that we're doing but we'd like to do some research on [39:23] external agencies some Innovative things that are happening in other communities and how we can bring that back to our [39:30] park and recre system and this is a study and report and we'll do that through the city's sustainability [39:35] manager as our starting point and then build off of that um and that is a very [39:42] fast overview so I'm happy to take notes and if there's anything that I can answer I would be happy to do you have [39:49] any examples of for the last one um what kind [39:54] of projects other agen are doing that well we're going to we're going to start [40:00] looking into that but I do know of some communities we did start kind of brushing on the edge of that um where [40:08] maybe it's solar panels on shelters or I mean there's different ways to start building things in to our park and [40:14] wrecks that aren't necessarily part of like with the Brar project we required to do certain things with Wetland I mean [40:21] there are certainly obviously sustainable efforts that are required and that we promote but how can we take [40:27] that to the next level and that's what this is about and seeing what's trending really Nationwide not just in other [40:32] communities locally so so a couple of things one is um for [40:39] the funding piece there's a um web site that I get emails from 880 cities I [40:46] don't know if you've heard of that it's if you design parks for 8ye olds to 80y [40:52] olds um everybody has a good time and um and I I will for that to um to Parry and [40:59] get that um but that might be if you're looking at how to get funding if you say you're 80 years old you enjoy the parks [41:05] you know so that might be a strategic thing to think about um and I'll I'll [41:10] mention this with the energy environment commission too the Met council is requiring um cities to have a um [41:17] environmental chapter and one of the things that they're focusing on that's new is the idea of continuous Green [41:23] Space and so how Parks our city parks can can be implemented to sort of have [41:29] that feeling of continuous Green Space and so when you're looking at the Strategic stuff maybe just keep that as [41:35] a lens um when you're thinking oh we can kind of get that feeling of connection here so the butterflies can go or you [41:42] know whatever or just the cool air so but thank you that's exciting when I think about local option [41:49] sales tax in the 70 plus million that you have to spend that we have to spend [41:54] as a city talk a little bit about grear sure we know we know that you're under your work is underway there and you're [42:00] monitoring that carefully and then we just cut a ribbon on the new mountain biking trail couple weeks ago and people [42:07] seem to giving that R reviews uh but then there's Fred Richards and we [42:12] haven't heard much in here about Fred Richards and wondering what's the status [42:17] over there and where are you in the selection process for consultants and [42:22] and planning and all those other things that we think are important over there I'm going to call for a Lifeline there [42:30] so thank you may the level setting we did just complete the 30% design review for PR [42:37] Park so we're moving that into conceptual design into detailed design as right now and then we'll bring that [42:43] back as be sort selecting vendors and products and things of that nature but um that's actually a 2024 plan so we [42:50] feel pretty good about where we are with the commission on a review and comment phase of that to move into the detailed [42:55] design at this point so they help we go through the park commission first before we see it or you [43:01] coming right to us uh it went to the park commission for review and comment and then to you for review 30 30% design [43:08] went yeah we've seen that out in the public so the next review the next thing [43:15] we'll be bringing back to the the council for kind of that final [43:20] authorization whichever threshold we have to meet and everything at Courtney [43:25] Fields is proceed Al I take it from a baseball standpoint okay one thing um I think [43:33] there's an opportunity with the climate action plan and the parks to create [43:39] space where people can learn about things that could be beneficial and I am [43:45] focused on Turf and grass and part of it's because my Street's being torn up but uh there is the alternative to grass [43:53] that people can request and it would be so great if there was a place you know [43:58] like out at the Arboretum sometimes you can see different types of Shrubbery and whatnot but if we could see different [44:06] types of ground cover with you know signage that this requires less mowing [44:11] less water um I was talking to a neighbor who has turf grass and he tends [44:17] to want to keep that but you know when we were talking about well it's on the edge of you know right by the road you [44:24] might want to have a clover be friendly mix that is easier to maintain hardier [44:30] all that uh you know and his question was well how does that go does it spread what does it look like you know and so [44:35] just being able to see that could [44:45] be keep moving all right hello I'm Laura wesland [44:52] I'm chair of the arts and culture commission I'm here tonight with Elena zaran our vice chair and we'll present [44:58] our 2025 work plan for you we have five initiatives um several of these continue [45:04] initiatives that we've been working on this year we have several long-term projects that have great momentum that [45:10] we'll be continuing um working on next year um so with that one of the ones [45:17] that would roll over from 2024 to 2025 would be the Arts Center collocation at [45:22] Southdale Library um the arts and culture commission will continue to bring forward Community perspective for [45:29] the art center acting as the sounding board for future programming and operation of the new facilities so [45:36] that's a reviewing comment that's quite a piece of work how you get to engage in there yeah it's [45:42] exciting our second initiative is the Edina Art grant program um this was a [45:48] program we launched for the first time um this year in 2024 and um we will um continue that um [45:56] next year um this past year we provided um grants um micro grants for emerging [46:02] artists to participate in the agina art fair as well as funding for public art [46:07] performances um and events so we will have the application program for that [46:12] this spring and have the second round the second year of our Edina Art grant program um the third um initiative is um [46:21] our engagement review um an opportunity be opportunity to be involved in public [46:27] art projects in the city Um this can take a variety of forms depending on um [46:34] what the art projects are um but we our commission is here and available um to [46:40] work with the city on public art um for example at Brar or Fred Richards or 50th [46:47] in France if there are public art opportunities there um Grand View possibly the new fire station so our [46:55] commission is here and available to work with the city in whatever ways appropriate um for these different [47:02] projects and then our fourth initiative which is uh participation in community [47:08] events uh we've had a lot of visibility at um some public events including the [47:13] Fallen to the Arts Festival at Centennial Lakes as well as the Fourth of July parade so we want to kind of [47:20] continue that initiative as well in the next year and our final initiative repeats a [47:28] very successful um initiative we had in 2023 um this is um creating five new [47:35] utility box art wraps for the city um we had um five utility art box wraps in [47:43] 2023 um we had 160 applications um for this and it was um a great success and [47:51] so we will do this again um in 2025 as well um during the the past year as we [47:58] all know Edina stands for every day I need art so we have stickers that we've [48:04] been handing out at our public events and we will do so tonight as well so [48:09] thank you so I have a question about the um wraps how long do they [48:16] last oh I'm going to go to my lifeline um Laura we had WS that were put on in [48:24] um want to say 2011 are up but they say that they can last between seven and 17 [48:31] years to be WRA it also depends on the lifetime of the utility box so if the [48:38] city has to replace it thens will go so it's not we don't have to replace [48:44] it annually okay excellent what's the art center being used for [48:50] now programming is the first floor Art Center so um two different classrooms [48:56] are being used for programming so we do have programs there's two programs running tonight most evenings there's [49:03] programming or programs happening um Saturday there'll be over 100 people there for the art lab so we are [49:11] utilizing that first Flo the artm still doing clay work and no ceramic [49:21] ceram any other questions okay all right we're going to move to energy and environment [49:27] commission all righty uh Cory luuk chair of the energy and environment commission we've got six work plan items for this [49:34] year two that were requested by the city um first and foremost our first item is [49:39] related to the midpoint of the climate action plan um so quick update there we [49:44] have our greenhouse gas inventory wrapping right now with our consultant Phill Blue Dot um eec is supposed to get [49:51] an update from Ted with pill blue dot in the November December time frame and they're going to be working with uh our [49:58] commission and then ultimately with Council to help prioritize and recommend which items in the climate action plan [50:03] we want to go after uh in the coming years I would say transparently there are a lot of things that we've [50:09] accomplished and then I think some that are going to be a little bit Haier that we're going to want to go after in the second half of this and we'll want to [50:14] work with uh Council to prioritize those and figure out which ones we want to um go after in the near term versus save [50:21] for the end um the second item here is a catch all for a lot of the annual initiatives that we have in place right [50:27] now things like our green business outreach program where we recognize green businesses uh a tree recognition [50:33] campaign that happens to be open right now we have 12 trees that have been nominated in the city um we do an [50:39] electric vehicle showcase which I'll put a quick plugin we have this Saturday at City Hall so if you know any uh people [50:46] that want to learn about electric vehicles um we'll have some there and have some dealerships showing them as [50:51] well um and then a lot of the stuff that we do with our student Commissioners chamber rotary Etc [50:57] around the climate action plan um is part of that our third item on the list [51:03] is with regards to extreme heat and resiliency hubs so a lot of cities have [51:08] uh cold weather related plans in place um Minnesota historically has not been a place that has needed extreme heat [51:15] policies and that is unfortunately changing um so seven of the items in the climate action plan are related to [51:21] extreme heat our commission would like to study and report on uh different [51:26] things that met Council henen County our climate action plan industry experts are recommending that we could do as a city [51:32] to uh help address heat emergencies um and so we'd like to [51:38] explore that further come back to council with some recommendations the fourth item is around food insecurity uh and local food [51:47] production um hard to believe in a city like Adina but I think there's a number of people that are falling into food [51:54] insecurity buckets um as well as the fact that we have no food pantries in the city of udina and so um we have some [52:00] passionate commission members that would like to explore this further make some recommendations to the city around um [52:06] things we could do to potentially increase local food production as well as access um number of things that other [52:13] cities have done we haven't done much in this area this is an entire uh section of our climate action plan that's [52:19] probably had the least amount of progress against it so um we finally have some good ideas as a commission on [52:25] how to go after it and uh would want to take those steps in the the next year um fifth item is with regards to [52:32] multifam Organics policies so um Organics adoption is kind of um flat [52:39] Line's not the right term plateaued uh plateaued at a residential um single [52:45] family dwelling perspective uh we want to go after multif family Organics policies now and figure out if uh there [52:51] are levers we can pull from a policy perspective with the city uh ordinances whatever to to um try to require and [52:58] mandate that within a lot of our uh larger housing complexes uh and then the sixth one I [53:04] think was a city code update that was requested from Council any [53:11] questions um what's what's the [53:16] link to security assessment for the climate action [53:22] plan Mar so how would you explain it yeah we have a in our climate action [53:27] plan we're guessing into one of the first steps as security assessment just to understand um opportunities for folks [53:35] who are facing in security where are those support services are they within our community or are they having to travel outside of our community oh so oh [53:42] sorry 100% with you on the need for it just why is it placed in the climate [53:49] action plan it's within the section of the climate action plan that has identified local food as an important [53:54] climate action strategy so f we did it just seems out of place to be it came [53:59] from the pale blue dot analysis as a common item that shows up in other cities climate action plans yeah uh but [54:06] I mean would you tie it to transportation to get to food you know transportation and um you know it's all [54:13] interconnected right so extreme weather events Transportation limitations it's [54:19] all kind of tied together so yeah as Cory mentioned you know it's within the climate action plan as recommended by [54:24] the the consultant a few years that was our reaction when we first saw the climate action PL about how does it fit [54:30] within energy environment but um we can we can certainly ask pill blue dot more [54:35] about tactics and how to tie that in and stuff yeah just curious is this feeding [54:41] off one of your work items last year was to identify places where there could be Community Gardens and everything you'll [54:48] you'll be growing off of that y [54:53] okay yeah Marissa are you having any uh ongoing [54:58] conversations with those staff Folks at climate mirors we've had a little bit of [55:04] dialogue with them from time to time depending on the topic that comes up on a regular basis are you having any [55:10] interaction with them looking at what they're working at relative to what we might want to be working or working [55:16] there's definitely you know connection with that group as well as a lot of other um aggregat so there's um the [55:22] community energy Network there's City Climate Coalition I think [55:27] see um as well as yeah the US climate Mayers who are advising and kind of guiding I think there's the Minnesota [55:34] climate action framework kind of Bon's climate action plan and the Metropolitan Council now all have a climate action plan so that kind of ties to the the [55:41] first work plan item Cory explain you know going from those sources and folks who identify the policies programs to be [55:47] working on and be able to bring that into action were working on some things that were helpful to you in this [55:53] ambitious work plan that you have has so many elements to it that are pretty comprehensive might be helpful yeah [55:59] there's really great resources as well as us resource yeah and we're pretty well connected in with commissions from [56:05] other suburbs around here as well uh we had St Louis Park at our last commission meeting and so we're trying to [56:11] cross-pollinate and get other ideas from other commissions then we certainly uh recognize that the the latest update [56:18] from pale blue dot might lead to additional climate action plan items being added to it that weren't thought of a couple years ago um so we're we're [56:26] constantly looking for those new ideas I really appreciate that your [56:31] completion date is quarter 1 and Quarter Two for the food security assessment [56:37] study and I look forward to seeing what you find [56:44] out anything else okay okay thanks thank Cory sounds good yeah appreciate the [56:51] time tonight uh my name is Chris Brown I'm the vice chair for the Transportation Commission [56:56] and so we'll be going through the five workpoint items that we have tonight uh number one we're excited to roll up our [57:02] sleeves with staff on the upcoming safe and equable Mobility action plan so we'll have one commissioner representing [57:09] um our commission on the working group and then also expect to have some opportunities to review and comment uh [57:15] that planning process along the way um and working on making sure that's a successful document and guiding plan in [57:21] the future so we're looking forward to that um building off of what other [57:27] commissions are doing being more active in the community providing more opportunities to talk to us as a Transportation Commission and learn more [57:32] of what of what Edina is doing in this realm we are proposing for our second work plan item to host two community [57:39] events um we have quite a bit of detail in here on you know leveraging existing community events obviously as much as [57:46] possible providing educational opportunities on the commission um active um uh planning efforts within the [57:53] city most importantly the bicycle and pedestrian master plan which our commission is very passionate about um [57:58] and also just providing other educational opportunities on things like um ebikes or eco-friendly commuting or [58:04] other um applicable topics that we find um are frequently mentioned in community comment or that we see you know in the [58:10] news or in discussions with community members Etc so we're looking forward to getting out the community and being more [58:16] active in this Transportation space with our um fellow edans and then for work [58:22] plan item number three um again there's a lot of passion around the um pestan [58:28] bcle master plan and so we're looking forward on doing some national research [58:34] and um identifying through a study and Report some opportunities to ensure that [58:39] um a community supported and quantitatively driven planning process can be implemented to the full powers [58:45] that be um to ensure that there's a you know holistic and complete Network um and so we really want to see how other [58:52] communities are incorporating these planning efforts in their existing processes such as roadway reconstruction [58:58] and Rehabilitation projects which are obviously kind of the key components of implementing this plan's vision and [59:04] understanding those opportunities to make a more streamline streamlined and successful process um for work plan item number [59:11] four this is ongoing from last year so we are excited to continue partnering with the Planning Commission on their [59:17] parking initiative and providing some um opportunities to comment um on uh [59:22] components of that initiative as it moves forward through uh 2020 5 here and [59:27] then the last workpl item um same with ECS is a a required code update that we'll just be supporting as staff [59:35] needs any questions or appreciate any feedback I've got some feedback for your [59:41] or certain be opportunities [Music] but uh this morning um the staff person [59:49] from the med Council came over that uh is the liaison for the transportation Advisory board that I chare my Council [59:57] so she had me signed 75 letters that sent out notifications to cities and [1:00:02] counties that they were there was a total of $250 million going out in Grants there's $25 million in this new [1:00:09] active Transportation F and so I'm just thinking about opportunities there in [1:00:15] that active Transportation Arena because there were there was probably 17 18 million [1:00:21] that went out on that in a pilot program this morning M and I think we'd applied but we were wer we weren't selected I [1:00:27] don't know staff person thought we might have applied St to school Yeah Yeahs we've [1:00:34] applied a couple times and haven't been successful so it's just it's just it's an opportunity that's there and we're [1:00:40] going to get our own money too I think city under over 50,000 gets a share of [1:00:45] that but there's a amount of money going to the region as well M so that's one thing to be aware of and then I don't [1:00:53] this is just a concept that's emerging at the US Conference of Mayors we'll be [1:00:58] talking tomorrow online with the national league of cities and the [1:01:03] counties about uh how Transportation Systems have [1:01:08] changed in a post uh pandemic world where there's more uh ordering retail uh [1:01:15] online plus more local movements of those goods uh more remote work so it's [1:01:21] remote remote work and remote retail and it's putting enormous pressure on some communities local roadway systems where [1:01:28] they particularly the ones that have these big Amazon distribution centers so as we get to the point in 2026 where [1:01:35] there's going to be uh the cycle of reauthorization on the federal level we're going to try to push this concept [1:01:42] of Greater localism that that the money shouldn't just go down the way it [1:01:47] typically goes to the state dos and then on dribble on down to the Metropolitan region or greater Minnesota and then on [1:01:54] down to uh you know the vet Council for use of those funds in the vet Fallen [1:02:00] area but there should be a separate category for local uh funding and so we [1:02:05] need to start thinking about that what would be the arguments we could Advance as to why we should we should be [1:02:11] encouraging Congress to think about diverting some of this money from traditional Pathways and channels into a [1:02:19] into a greater localism Channel where we can it's it would be almost like cdbg [1:02:25] money for Transportation I think so could you guys to maybe think about that [1:02:30] or put that in the parking lot sure yeah we'd be happy to yeah some like funding strategies [1:02:35] yeah so I've got a couple of things one is um the Edina morning side Rotary Club [1:02:41] is has a new event every year it's called Edina rides and um we put it on [1:02:49] cold may it was May the first weekend of May um but but that'd be a good event to partner with Y um um we had a [1:02:58] discussion two City Council meetings ago about people concerned over electric [1:03:03] bikes and how fast they're going and I think that we thought that see what kind of policies are out I don't see that [1:03:09] mentioned in your work plan but I um we've accelerated that because of just the concern so City attorney is working [1:03:16] on an ordinance okay right now should be coming to you probably at your next meeting okay but just to put that in um [1:03:22] and then today I met a guy who lives in naturally UR occurring affordable housing and he said I have a Tesla I [1:03:29] can't charge it here it's very difficult so any ways that we can um you know I [1:03:35] don't know if the the funds that we have for upgrading Noah properties could include um putting Chargers in or [1:03:43] anything or any ways that we can uh work with that but just to know that these older buildings don't have chargers for [1:03:49] electric vehicles and kind of looking to the future if there's we did touch on a little bit of that charging [1:03:55] infrastructure with that parking um initiative with Planning Commission and so I think that could be an opportunity to interv that in great but yeah thank [1:04:03] you duly noted there are companies now that are wanting to come in and visit with us about building out systems for [1:04:09] the whole city so I don't know if that could fall into both your camps yeah [1:04:14] money as soon as staff screens them and vs them targets charges are now up and [1:04:22] running here in town in town you can we went over charged my daughter's car went [1:04:27] to Target for 20 minutes 30 minutes and boom it was done if it was level two or [1:04:33] level three I'm not sure but it went from it's pretty fast cool how many are [1:04:44] there all right anything else thank you [1:04:50] than Jimmy you're up all right Jimmy done Planning Commission chair de facto [1:04:58] spokesperson uh shout out to the rest of the commission I feel like we have an awesome cast of people doing great work [1:05:06] awesome awesome help from City staff and that's our our first item it's [1:05:12] always on here it's our bimonthly meetings the reviewing land use application requires a tremendous amount [1:05:19] of staff support and most of our time number two is uh [1:05:26] a Monumental task that's just going to kind of carry on probably for the next five years until [1:05:32] the uh comprehensive Plan update and that's updating the city zoning ordinance so last year part of well part [1:05:39] of this year's work plan was a zoning audit and throughout that we we have a [1:05:47] few specific items that Commissioners have been interested in the last year and this year that we're going to kind [1:05:53] of wrap into that we have three Commissioners that are going to lead that that's going to require a lot of [1:05:59] lot of time a lot of effort that's most of the stuff honestly uh we have a continuation of [1:06:06] the Lincoln London der small area plan we have a review of the greater Southdale [1:06:14] District design experience guidelines the reason for this is we seem to see a [1:06:20] lot of proposals to vary from what that requires of develop [1:06:26] redevelopers um we also to be fair haven't seen a lot of it actually built [1:06:32] out to these standards uh so it'll be a good at least educational exercise for [1:06:39] the rest of the commission we'll bring in the former consultant MC Johnson who helped put together the design [1:06:46] experience guidelines and start walking through that should we make some changes to it or [1:06:52] not lastly we have evaluating the use and efficacy of traffic studies this is [1:06:58] a fun one uh as you know on these land use applications traffic studies are [1:07:06] large documents full of a lot of data are they really telling us what we need to know is there something else um and [1:07:14] this is this is also more of an educational opportunity for the rest of the Planning Commission we see bringing [1:07:20] in a consultant just number one and one of our work sessions just learning about [1:07:26] what really goes into this and then seeing if there are gaps and um are are [1:07:32] they just used to give the green light or hold back a project is there something else we can look [1:07:38] into with the design of nearby streets and Roads and [1:07:44] interconnectedness um we also see what we do touch everyone else's things and vice versa so um as we look into the at [1:07:52] least the zoning ordinance updates will likely be touching base with other [1:07:59] commissions uh parking lot items the district plan for the kill [1:08:05] area just don't want to lose sight of that so we're just going to keep that officially in the parking lot also the [1:08:11] development review process last year we tried to simplify it by removing potentially one of the public hearings [1:08:19] um but part of that discussion provided some other opportunities to provide [1:08:25] better engagement and the city went ahead and kind of did some of those so [1:08:31] we we want to always kind of keep an eye toward how can we improve the process um [1:08:36] whether it's policy or engagement that's it happy to sit for [1:08:42] any questions will we get to see the zoning [1:08:47] audit absolutely not yeah yes when will we get to [1:08:56] what is the we're anticipating the next couple of weeks so we're planning on [1:09:01] like a joint for session with Planning Commission and city council to go through it yeah and this other question [1:09:10] okay you gave me the answer you did um and I've been thinking a lot about this [1:09:15] and it also kind of ties into race and Equity but and I know we don't have to [1:09:22] issue rfps for design um um work but [1:09:28] what if we raised the bar a little higher so that we did have to issue an [1:09:33] RFP and you know I see the logic of reaching out to MC Johnson because he created that but would it make sense to [1:09:41] issue an RFP and have other people be able to respond to it and offer their [1:09:48] opinions so just kind of putting that out there yeah we should we shouldn't use Nick John what you we should [1:09:55] shouldn't use Mick Johnson so whatever process we need to use to find the right [1:10:01] person it's smart for us to have another eye set of eyes on that uh rather than [1:10:08] just using mix so I didn't interpret that you were only going to use me two [1:10:13] part things first is just educational get everyone up to date on kind of the context to it because people have been [1:10:20] guessing as to why first level's 20 feet for example so that makes sense yeah [1:10:26] have are there going to be more people to mck Johnson giving that perspective yeah that's fine [1:10:32] yeah Fisher and who were yeah residents and and part of the group yeah we'd [1:10:38] welcome probably anyone the back local residents with their I I want to push [1:10:44] back we do keep falling back on a handful of people um Michael Fisher [1:10:49] Michael Schroeder MC Johnson and you know if we are going to be more open and [1:10:55] inclusive um and provide opportunities you know in a more Equitable way I think [1:11:00] issuing an RFP would be a better way to go for that I think we're talking about two different things well we're talking [1:11:06] about General process here we were talking about was the backgrounding okay the backgrounding on [1:11:13] where how we got to where we are and then the next phase is what you're talking about I think potenti Chang [1:11:18] potentially who could help us from this point forward after they understand what [1:11:25] that's what I'm saying yeah okay oh I just need to think about that a little [1:11:30] bit so there's nobody it's a very limited group of people for the backgrounding right okay there's a dozen [1:11:37] people on that yeah that was meant to be more informal not necessarily hiring [1:11:43] someone yeah maybe not a hire for that wasn't the intent okay but if the question is help us understand what was [1:11:49] the intent behind the plan you need to ask the people who did the plan right so that that totally sense I'm saying [1:11:56] moving forward as you have that insight and you're thinking about what needs to be different we should have consider [1:12:04] having another set 10 four thank you and there are a lot of those out there yeah and so to piggyback on the talk [1:12:12] about the Southdale guidelines I would like to see a survey of the different planning Commissioners who have tried to [1:12:19] interpret that and asked them to get their level of comfort with the complexity of doing it um you know it's [1:12:27] one thing in abstract to say this is a really cool plan and everything but for people whove actually had to then make [1:12:34] decisions based on it I'd like to get their feedback saying this is just too much or it's really exciting or and I [1:12:41] you can come up with various questions it doesn't have to just be all touchy feely like that but to get their um [1:12:48] their impression of how it actually works um I'd be interesting would you start that over again I'm trying to try [1:12:54] because I think important what you said I just want to make sure I understand it so I'm just going to use an individual [1:12:59] and I would say you know like Jerry Strauss Jerry Strauss was on the Planning Commission for a long time and [1:13:05] what questions would we want to ask Jerry and other you know Joanne plan [1:13:11] commission as well as present on when you went to apply this plan how hard was it the design [1:13:18] experience the design experience guidelines how hard was it what part did what did you rely on to do that did you [1:13:24] feel feel like you were out at Sea and and I'm not the right person to put [1:13:29] these questions together but I think what we're asking planning Commissioners to do is very complex work and um and I [1:13:37] want them to feel that they're comfortable doing it and that it's um [1:13:42] and they feel confident doing it because I know their brains are good enough you know everybody's brains are good enough but have we set up a system that's so [1:13:48] complex it doesn't really work is what I'm trying to get at um and maybe the answer is oh my gosh not too complex at [1:13:56] all this is great and I love it but I think we need to know that from the people who had to to work with [1:14:05] it can ask [1:14:12] well that was that do I have time to answer yeah you [1:14:17] so I don't know this isn't specifically um for planning but I'm not sure where [1:14:24] this would go but we talked about um this concept of kind of diving into [1:14:32] affordable housing what does it mean how are we going after it and one of the things we [1:14:40] talked about was how could or should our zoning change to enable maybe medium [1:14:47] density on the West Side those kinds of things um we talked about having a town [1:14:54] hall bunch of things we've talked about I don't see any of that in the plans and [1:15:01] so my question is more broadly so you don't have to answer today um I'm kind [1:15:07] of looking at MJ and Scott like where where should that be like how do we go [1:15:12] after that so that's one and then the second one when you read through the [1:15:17] plans everybody did budget differently so arts and commission or maybe it was [1:15:23] hhrc had $55,000 in there because they were planning an event so you'll see [1:15:29] those I think those make sense most of the other ones said no budget except [1:15:36] staff yeah and so none of this stuff is free and so my [1:15:41] challenges when we come into Council and we do these work sessions often times [1:15:46] the feedback you're getting from us in my opinion is unencumbered by [1:15:52] expense and I don't think that's good if it goes to the next level that way so [1:15:59] for this point sure right casting that whyde what do we think should be in [1:16:04] there maybe we don't necessarily think about what it costs um but the when we [1:16:11] come back we need to understand the total cost which has to include staff so [1:16:17] we could we shouldn't just say well staff completes that so no budget required cuz that's yeah and and that's [1:16:25] really the difference between what's happening at this level and what happens at the next stop we encumber you all [1:16:31] kinds of ways right looking at staff looking at feasibility uh looking at Cost looking at coordination among other [1:16:38] departments all of that that's what staff brings to the to the next stage yeah okay to the point that Julie was making [1:16:46] about c a little bit broader n you know don't forget about guys like that Chuck [1:16:51] morone strong talents guy who's based up in [1:17:00] to Curry we had them on maybe a couple you [1:17:05] know another guy car [1:17:12] Jo joei thanks [1:17:19] for very exciting stuff thank you guys thank you [1:17:25] one more great okay we got representing Heritage preservation [1:17:32] commission we have three standing items the first is reviewing certificate of cess requests of course most of those [1:17:39] are in the country club District notably we D have new Bridges making onto our list and we'll bubble up again um that's [1:17:46] pretty straightforward second item rarely comes to commission level and that's if anyone's interested in becoming a Heritage Property staff [1:17:53] handles those in inquiries largely we have an annual Heritage preservation [1:17:59] award to have some education and Outreach number four this year is leaning into our new century home [1:18:05] program Outreach we are asking for $350 please we'd like to buy some yard signs [1:18:11] to help increase visibility with homeowner agreement we would take the new enrol le and put a yard sign [1:18:18] directing people to the city website to learn a little more council member Jackson I want to thank you for your [1:18:24] question last time which prompted me to say do we put everything that owners are [1:18:30] applying to on the website we're looking into that so that all the stories are told so thanks for that earlier question [1:18:36] um we will continue to meet with Community groups to spread the word there um so that's Sentry homes our [1:18:42] final item is contingent on the decision at tonight's council meeting pending [1:18:48] changes to ordinance and changes to the country club plan of treatment our [1:18:53] commission would focus he heavily on education and making sure the community [1:19:00] understands those changes and that they're implemented well um we left our [1:19:06] parking lot intentionally open we have a lot of new Commissioners we have new consultants and so TR we focus on [1:19:11] education and consistency comments [1:19:17] feedback let me add to your parking lot potentially sure if we're doing a race [1:19:23] action plan I think we need to ask about the historic preservation of the country club District that came up in the public [1:19:30] hearing yeah I think that's an issue that should just at least be on the parking lot um how how that whole [1:19:37] historic thing fits in with our racial action plan and I don't know the answer but I think it should thank you we'll [1:19:42] gladly add that and I'll note that the neighborhood Dove heavily into just [1:19:47] Deeds mapping Prejudice community and have materials and so be easy to fold in [1:19:53] and continue that education thank you good I was thinking about as you were [1:19:59] talking that um house had set empty for so many years over there on I think it [1:20:04] was on bridge in brale now they yes they've Advanced it it looks like it's [1:20:09] almost done after two three years of they find they found somebody who could [1:20:15] buy it and afford to rehab it with the plan of treatment that you provided [1:20:21] but along the way from the time construction starts until it's finished [1:20:27] are you part of that process from a commission standpoint are any of your members going in there and looking at [1:20:32] the work in progress or is that all City staff related All City staff although I will put a plug in I do think there's [1:20:39] value in having Country Club neighborhood residents on the commission because then when people are walking [1:20:44] their dog they can notice something and alert staff and ask the appropriate questions but it is truly a staff um [1:20:52] area or if you know Community concern comes to us um but beyond that staff manages and [1:20:58] rarely does it escalate there where we're asking staff and coordinating is that fair car seems like there be some [1:21:04] value in periodically taking a staff member through the site and so you could report back to the commission as to you [1:21:10] know here's the phase they're at or I don't know taking a staff member or having commission do some commission [1:21:17] member go into the property with with a staff member I'll gladly add that to the [1:21:22] parking lot I think that is sort of you know yeah and thank you for that especially for major projects right [1:21:29] where there's multi-year engagement thank you okay thank you everybody thank you [1:21:36] thanks very much a lot of great work going on appreciate the work you all are doing [1:21:44] and your also our [1:21:53] volunteer i f we the journey