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City Council Work Session Jan. 21, 2025

Edina City CouncilWednesday, January 22, 2025
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Edina advances two major projects: arts center relocation and pool repairs.

Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement

Funding Options for Aquatic Center Pump Room Project

Arts Center Facility Transition and Rosland Park Future Use

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Votes (2)

Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

No formal vote recorded; work session for information and discussion purposes

Dissent: No dissent recorded. Arts and Culture Commission members and Council expressed strong support for the project direction, with one commission member noting the project is 'neon green' in terms of readiness.

Perry Vetter, Parks and Recreation Director, provided comprehensive update on Arts Center relocation to new Hennepin County Library facility. Key discussion points included: (1) Historical context of Arts Center facility challenges since 1948 construction; (2) Cost-benefit analysis showing collocation reduces project cost from $31.7M standalone to $6.8M over 40 years through shared infrastructure; (3) Detailed second-floor space program featuring pottery studios with 5 electric kilns and outdoor gas/soda kilns, maker spaces, gallery, gift shop, and meeting room; (4) Community engagement efforts including Arts and Culture Commission input and 40+ community member interviews; (5) Timeline targeting Q3 2027 opening; (6) Hennepin County currently in design development phase with construction documents in progress; (7) Future planning for Rosland Park site after Arts Center relocation. Arts and Culture Commission members expressed enthusiasm about expanded visibility, pottery program restoration, and community accessibility. Council members questioned jewelry room omission, changing room provisions, bathroom locations, and future use of existing Arts Center building.

Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

No formal vote recorded; work session for information and discussion purposes. Council directed staff to proceed with CM@Risk RFP release and pursue tax abatement as primary funding mechanism while exploring parallel state bonding and local option sales tax extension options.

Dissent: No formal dissent recorded. Council expressed consensus on urgency and support for tax abatement approach, though some members expressed preference for state bonding or sales tax extension as alternative/supplementary funding sources.

Derek [Facility Manager] and Perry Vetter presented urgent infrastructure needs for Aquatic Center pump room. Key discussion points included: (1) Facility opened in 1958; receives 75,000-85,000 annual visitors (70% non-resident use); (2) 2021 major electrical failure revealed obsolete power supply system incompatible with modern equipment; (3) Current facility constraints: undersized surge tanks violating state pool code, inadequate ventilation causing accelerated rust/decay, cramped space limiting maintenance access, structural repairs completed 2022-2023; (4) Proposed solution: new larger pump room facility with quadrupled surge tank capacity, improved ventilation, and additional deck space; (5) Timeline: CM@Risk RFP to be released in 2-3 weeks; construction targeted for summer/fall 2025 with completion before 2026 season; (6) Estimated project cost: $5 million (hypothetical for analysis purposes); (7) Four funding options presented with analysis of feasibility and timeline implications. Nick Anheim (Financial Consultant) detailed bonding mechanisms and their constraints. Council discussion focused on timing urgency, state bonding possibilities, and tax abatement as preferred funding mechanism. Mayor noted parallel pursuit of state legislative bonding and local option sales tax extension, though initial legislative response was not positive.

Notable Quotes (16)

the history of the art center so most of you know some may not is that uh Lee and Ross Miller built a home um in 1948 and lived there until they sold the property of the city of Ed in 1976 uh shortly thereafter the Art Center was opened within that home

— Perry Vetter, Parks and Recreation Director [2:03-2:08]
Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

the amazing thing about this partnership is because of those shared spaces of what henpen county would bill us is that dollar amount comes down to about $370 a square foot so very advantageous to us

— Perry Vetter, Parks and Recreation Director [8:39-8:51]
Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

instead of a price tag of 31.7 million um over that 40-year period of being a tenant and not an owner um our price is going to be about 6.8 million so um you know about that you know a fifish or so of doing this on our own

— Perry Vetter, Parks and Recreation Director [9:12-9:24]
Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

you're going to mostly come up upstairs right here through a really nice area that this is the main entrance into the um building admin is going to be all located over here with a few offices but when you come up the stairs you'll be greeted by our reception space here if you're taking a class there'll be a screen that then directs you to whichever classroom you're going into if you're not here for a class and you just want to come down and enjoy the gallery space or walk down through here there'll be an area to come in this will all be glass and you can see all the different stuff in the gallery

— Janette Colby, Edina Art Center [19:46-20:37]
Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

the exposure that our art center will get in this location is pretty extraordinary I mean the soud library is not just any Dino Library it's a Richfield Library it's a Bloomington library I mean this the our community really expands in this location and as you can see it's it's so visible in the building like you walk in and you look up and there's the art center

— Arts and Culture Commission Member [33:22-33:40]
Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

but more on that side of things um we did talk about doing a master plan for rosin Park and asking people about how they would want to use you know something in that location um I don't think it's feasible to fix that building

— Council Member [31:32-31:37]
Hennepin County Library and Edina Arts Center Collocation Project Update

in 2021 um we had a major electrical failure out there um and we've highlighted that Transformer because we wanted to talk about some of the um stipulations that came from that failure um when we went through and started to sus through some of the issues that we had there we found out that the type of system and power that is supplied to the Aquatic Center is old and Antiquated so we really had to kind of scramble to find parts and pieces that could go in there

— Derek, Facility Manager [42:49-43:12]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

a surge tank basically is um if you have your pool at Max Capacity the water that's displaced from those bodies going into it has to go somewhere currently ours go into adequately undersized tanks and then whatever doesn't get displaced goes down the drain right straight into you know the city sanitary sewer lines um and then ultimately that water has to be made up right so you can't have a 6inch depth change um so we're constantly putting clean water down the drain and then refilling it again

— Derek, Facility Manager [43:53-44:07]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

maintenance in this building is not easy to do operational challenges come um with a space of this size from the costic nature of the room not being able to ventilated properly that's led to some of this um Decay and and rust and things like that

— Derek, Facility Manager [45:22-45:28]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

every season since I started in 2020 um we've had some type of major catastrophe out there we were able to keep the pool operating but it's taken a lot of Staff time from both the parks and rec department but also the facility tourament um where we're going in there and you know making repairs to electrical systems making repairs to with the pumps uh babysitting is a big thing I I couldn't put a exact dollar amount on it but I would say in the last four years we've probably spent in the excess of50 to $100,000 of just maintenance between staff and um actual equipment costs out there

— Derek, Facility Manager [1:04:10-1:04:27]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

municipalities can borrow for certain types of projects uh Illustrated through the statutes so pardon my voice I'm sorry um you certainly can go out to a referendum the rest of us have been there are still trying to get rid of it fortunately I was willing too loudly I feel fine and you're lost and we lost sorry man forgot it's all right um there a joke in there somewhere feel good sound bad

— Nick Anheim, Financial Consultant [51:07-52:05]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

all three of those options at the top as far as a bond is concerned once you go through the process and authorize them they cost exactly the same they provide the same level of security to the bond holder there's no difference in the interest rate that you would see you can pair them with other projects and funding sources HRA also has the ability to finance facilities facility improvements uh through a public project Revenue Bond the city has used that in the past in certain circumstances that it would be a different form of bond it's a annual appropriation pledge as opposed to IR revical Le Levy and so it does price slightly differently it would be a little bit more expensive in terms of Interest costs and transactional fees

— Nick Anheim, Financial Consultant [52:28-53:11]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

the special law in particular we are limited in the fact that we do have to demonstrate that the actual Enterprise itself Aquatic Center liquor fund and uh those pledged sources have the capacity to be able to pay back that debt so the net revenue that they are generating uh pulled together has to be able to cover the forecast of debt payments in order to actually authorize it

— Nick Anheim, Financial Consultant [54:05-54:27]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

I don't think we've done a tax payment deal here yet have we no the city has not has not used that um tax batment can be used for quite a few different types of projects facilities public infrastructure Economic Development um Eden Prairie did a tax abatement to fund their Aquatic Center

— Council Member [1:02:12-1:02:19]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

couldn't we run two tracks on this the track you're talking about and then couldn't we put something together to go to the legislature to get I mean we had 75% of the people using this are not from Idina it's a regional asset why can't we go and try get some bonding money we can and we are asking we actually met with representative green this afternoon who will introduce a bill for this her initial reaction though was in all likelihood she does not have a strong outlook on it but she will carry it

— Mayor [1:06:14-1:06:28]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

we would then engage them to work on scheduling and hiring some contractors with the hopes that sometime in this summer and this fall we would see some activity out there um to you know actually start constructing the new building as we've put together couldn't we run two tracks on this the track you're talking about and then couldn't we put something together to go to the legislature

— Derek, Facility Manager [1:05:22-1:05:34]
Aquatic Center Pump Room Infrastructure Replacement and Funding Authorization

Ordinances & Resolutions (11)

Letter of Intent (LOI) with Hennepin CountyOther

Agreement establishing partnership terms for Arts Center collocation within new library facility; entered into summer 2024; specifies annual tenant fee of $992,000, 20-year initial lease with two 10-year renewal options

2021 City Council Retreat Spectrum of OptionsPlan

Strategic planning document evaluating six potential Arts Center scenarios including standalone renovation, pottery-only space, commercial zone location, industrial area location, and consortium partnership model

2019 Arts Center Architectural/Building Code StudyPlan

Assessment identifying facility deficiencies including inadequate pottery area, lack of ADA access to mezzanine and basement, and operational constraints

2021-2023 Space Planning and Pottery Forward StudyPlan

Comparative analysis of three Arts Center options: Fire Station 2 remodel ($3M, 5,000 sq ft), new pottery center build ($14.6M, 7,000 sq ft), and full Arts Center build ($31.7M, 40,000 sq ft)

Hennepin County Library Design Development DocumentsPlan

Architectural renderings and site plans for new library facility; includes value engineering modifications; pursuing LEED B3 and SP3230 sustainability standards

Arts Center Second Floor Space ProgramPlan

Detailed layout of 18,000 sq ft Arts Center space including reception, gallery, gift shop, maker space, pottery studios (wheel rooms, hand building station, mix room, spray booth), storage, and outdoor kiln facilities

Aquatic Center Pump Room Matterport 3D AssessmentOther

Virtual facility documentation showing existing pump room conditions, electrical panels, sand filters, discharge pumps, surge tanks, and structural decay

Aquatic Center Infrastructure StudyPlan

Professional assessment identifying electrical system obsolescence, undersized surge tanks, inadequate ventilation, and structural repairs completed in 2022-2023

Construction Manager at Risk (CM@Risk) RFPOther

Procurement method for Aquatic Center pump room project; to be released within 2-3 weeks; contractor will assist with final estimates and subcontractor hiring

Special Law Authority for Recreational FacilitiesOther

Minnesota statute granting City of Edina authority to issue General Obligation Bonds for outdoor and indoor sports/recreational facilities (arena, Aquatic Center, golf course, municipal liquor operation) payable from designated facility revenues

Tax Abatement AuthorityOther

Municipal financing tool allowing dedication of property tax revenues to debt repayment for public benefit projects; not previously used by City of Edina; used by Eden Prairie for Aquatic Center and Minnetonka for fitness facility

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