Good evening everybody and welcome to the Adina City Council meeting. It is Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025. It is uh the week of the Adina Art Fair. So keep that in mind. Everybody that's listening in or in the audience, uh make sure you get down to 50th in France for the Adina Art Fair. One of the great events uh uh in the state of Minnesota. Frankly, I think it's the largest and oldest art fair in the state of Minnesota. It is 7:02 p.m. Uh, Director Benerro, for those in the audience, um, uh, gave you some information that was important to have. We've been doing these meetings on a hybrid basis. People can watch us virtually or they can come to city hall to, uh, talk to the council about matters of concern to them. Tonight, there are no public hearings, but there is community comment, and you can comment on things that are not on the agenda or scheduled for a future public hearing. And you'll have three minutes. You'll get a yellow warning light when you got 30 seconds left and then you should be thinking about wrapping up your comments and try to make sure we treat everybody the same and give them that three minute when you hit the 3m minute marks try to stop your comments or wrap them up. Uh so uh having provided that information I'm going to call the meeting to order. These are the numbers you want to call in if you want to call in for community comment uh from the virtual world. As I mentioned, people are watching in different ways. So, uh, I'm now going to call the meeting to order, and I'm going to ask our clerk, Sharon Ellison, to call the role. Council member Agnu here. Council member Jackson here. Council member Pierce here. Council member Risser here. Mayor Hublin here. Uh, next is the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, folks. Uh, next we have a form of meeting agenda that's been published to the council and to our residents so they knew in advance what we were having our meeting about. Is there anyone on the council or from a staff standpoint that wishes to modify the meeting agenda in any form or fashion? Is there a motion to approve the meeting agenda as published? So moved. A second. Member Jackson moves. member seconds the adoption of the meeting agenda as published. Any further discussion? All those in favor of adopting the meeting agenda as published say I. I. I. Opposed. Carried. The meeting agenda is adopted and then we are now at community comment and we've got some folks in the audience here. We're going to ask them if they want to address the council first and then we'll go to the virtual world after that. And I see some uh folks in the audience who may wish to come up and um again give us your name and your address. And um you'll have three minutes. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you. My name is Nancy Greer. I live at 5225 Grand View Square, unit 216. And I'm here about the crosswalk from Grand View Square to Avador. As people come off of Vernon around the bend, they cannot see that there is somebody in the crosswalk and it's very dangerous. Many of the people in our building no longer use it. They drive to Jerry's instead of walking, which makes them get into their car, drive farther to get where they need to be. They're afraid. I'm afraid. I walk everywhere. We are a onecar family and I don't have it Monday through Friday. And sometimes I need to go to Jerry's to get things. I would like to have either a flashing light as you're rounding the bend, a speed bump, or some sort of signage that people realize that there is somebody in the crosswalk. The majority of the people in that area are 75 plus, and I'm being generous there because they're more like 80 plus. I'm on the younger end of that. Um, it's very, very dangerous and I've almost been hit many times. as I have called to say, I've almost been hit many times. So, I would like to see something done that will protect us. And over a year ago, our HOI president and some of our residents did contact the city about getting a flashing light. And they said it was on order, but that was over a year ago and we have not seen anything or any kind of indication that you are going to take care of us as we walk across the street there. Okay. We know that's a difficult spot, but uh and some of us have have had your voicemails and we thank you for that. Yes. I know we're trying to address that and and uh our city engineer may address that yet this evening. I don't know if you can stick around or not for his comments later, but I will be happy to stick around. Okay. Thank you, Miss Greer. Um Good evening, mayor, council members. Good evening. My name is Rob Sickert. I live at 4311 Cornelia Circle. During the community comment portion of the May 20th city council meeting, I posed the following question. Did the HRA authorize the use of up to $30 million of Adina property taxes to fund a potential tunnel under France? Manager Neil's reply posted to manager's comment on Adina's website stated this and I quote, "The simple answer to this question is no, but a more complete explanation is warranted." End quote. The more complete explanation wasn't needed indeed. And in paragraph number six of Mr. Neil's reply, the eligible uses include a tunnel underpass or similar improvements. Right there in black and white, a tunnel underpass is an eligible use of funds. To me, this makes my point perfectly clear. City funds have been authorized. Mr. Mr. Neil chooses to hide behind nuance and lack of transparency. And even though Mr. Neil chose to post a nineparagraph reply, nowhere did he share that the tunnel underpass would cost some 20 to 30 million taxpayer taxpayer dollars. Even more egregious, the better together a dina page looking for community feedback is also silent on the cost to taxpayers. And for those having trouble finding that web page, you're not alone. It's not listed among the planning and development projects or among the streets and infrastructure projects. Only if you go to better together and use the words pedestrian crossing does the project pop up. Am I surprised that Mr. Neil continues to be less than transparent? Heavens no. Much like the decision process Mr. Neil has orchestrated for the last three budget cycles and again for a decision later tonight. His approach is to deflect, delay, reply but not answer and postpone a decision until the last possible moment. The point where a decision must be made in spite of the lack of critical data and well- constructed analysis. So my question tonight is not for Mr. Neil, but rather my question is for you members of the council. Why does the 20 to30 million price tag, a cost to be paid from residents property tax dollars, continue to be something not worth mentioning on the city's website or in the council chambers? or is it just too embarrassing given Adina's looming 17% property tax increase on top of the $60 million backlog of unfunded city maintenance? Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Zert. Good evening, uh, mayor, council members, any diner residents. I stand before you tonight to address serious concerns about the handling of ordinance name, please. Sandy Carlson, sorry, 4433 Ellsworth Drive. I apologize for that. Um, I stand u uh before you to address serious concerns about the handling of ordinance number 202405 as a process raises questions about transparency, honesty, accountability, and adherence to proper procedure. At the April 16th meeting, a vote on on this ordinance was taken with only three council members present, resulting in two yes votes and one no vote. The ordinance with an altered parking requirement was published in the May 22nd suncurrent. After I emailed the city council and city manager, I was informed that the ordinance requires a majority of the council three votes to pass. How could city staff who should be well-versed in basic governance rules allow this vote to proceed improperly? Who benefits from pushing this ordinance forward without the required votes? Secondly, the April 18th city council meeting was omitted from the second reading. The um the ordinance was omitted from the second reading in that uh agenda without explanation. Why was this critical step skipped? The ordinance had been included in every agenda packet for this project since August of 2024. After I inquired about this omission, the ordinance appeared in the April 16th packet, but it had been altered. So, I don't want to use all my time up here. Yeah. No, you go ahead. Finish your thoughts. Uh, but it had been altered. The required of number required number of parking stalls was changed from 468 to 483. A change which was not disclosed to the three council members present at the meeting. Similar to the situation where we had the five to six story change at the 7200 property. The number 6 468 had been in every copy of the draft ordinance since August of 2024. Most interesting is that this different number, the 483 number was matches what the planning staff quoted me as a city code requirement in March uh March 18th email. The explanation that I received that this change was a mistake strains belief, especially since the ordinance was left off the March agenda for the second reading and the number 483 parking stalls was stated in this email. Not a mere coincidence. This situation echoes a Bohan versus Edina case where failure to follow proper process led to the city losing in court. We cannot afford to repeat that mistake. A public hearing is required for ordinance amendments, yet none was held for the parking stall change. The lack of transparency, the unnotified changes and the improper vote raises serious questions about the integrity of this process. I urge the council to investigate these irregularities. Transparency and adherence to procedure are non-negotiable for maintaining public trust. Let's ensure our city actions reflect the accountability our community deserves. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Carlson. Anyone else wish to address the council this evening? Okay, let's switch over to director Benerro and see if she has anybody waiting online to speak to the council and then we'll go to the city manager for some responses from the prior meeting. I do not have anyone online. All right. Okay. And your responses may involve some of the issues that were raised this evening as well. Yes. Manager Neil. Thank you, your honor. Members of council, uh we had two questions that we uh will respond to tonight from the previous meeting, the May 20th meeting. The first one uh Mr. Zickert repeated tonight, and that is did the HA authorize the use of up to $30 million in the United property taxes to to fund a potential tunnel under France Avenue? And I would again say no. Um just because something is eligible to be paid for with TIFF with TIFF dollars doesn't mean you've authorized it to be done. uh you have when when we are ready to present that if we become ready to present it at some point we will present that to you and ask you for an authorization to for that project but we haven't done that yet. We've had some exploratory um some we've spent some exploratory dollars but you've no you've not authorized uh that project as a council or as an HR. Yeah. Just to be clear then, it's it's a it's a it's a project, a potential project that is a legally eligible cost under tax increment financing, but it's but no funding has been authorized by this council specifically for an underpass or a tunnel under France Avenue. You may do that. We haven't even finished analyzing that project yet. Yes. And it's my understanding um and correct me if I'm wrong that it's the city council that would authorize use of funds and the H would recommend it but that the HA doesn't authorize use of of funds. Is that correct? We've haven't done either one of those in either body. We haven't done either one of them. And in the future were we to do this which is still just an idea it would be the city council not the HA or both. I believe that's right. But we generally seek both of both of H and council just to make sure we've got it covered because there are some instances where the H can approve funding uh but we usually get that doubled double approved by the council and okay thank you for clearing that up. Second question was uh regarding the tree protection ordinance and how it is uh how it treats underbuilt lots. We don't have a definition of underbuilt lots. So when we started our tree protection ordinance, we most of it was was kind of focused on existing existing lots with existing homes on them or buildings on them. Um then we went to the situation out on the Dakota Trail where there was an unbuilt lot and we made some adjustments to the ordinance to reflect that. But this is a new category of or new classification and we haven't got an ordinance uh change yet that's ready to to impact that. Uh there are some discussions going on uh with primarily with staff but also with some consulting assistance uh around uh some some amendments to the tree protection ordinance. We think that is going to begin kind of making its way to the council via EEC and probably the planning commission, I'm going to guess, and ultimately then to the council for a review later this summer. Okay, member. Thank you. I think short of being able to cover all of these edge cases because I know that they'll continue to come up, we had also talked about the possibility of using some type of appeal process or introducing that into the system. Is that something that we could get done sooner than end of summer or do can we if not do that in parallel with reviewing this ordinance? Um, member Agnu, members of council, we haven't talked about that at this at the staff level yet. We've looked at different uh opportunities for that and looked at what other how other communities have handled it yet. Um, I think I would like to sit down with Mr. with the M with our city attorney and some of the staff members that have been involved more involved in that than I am and have that discussion with them. Thank you. I I think that that could be a a quicker way to address some of these issues while we as a city continue to analyze the the specific adjustments that need to be made to the ordinance. Um specifically knowing we want it to go through planning commission. It needs to be reviewed by energy and environment commission. There are so many people at play and I know that we have residents who are kind of in limbo right now. Um, so if we could figure out even like a short-term kind of stop gap where we're able to have that discussion, we're able to facilitate it in a way that still aligns with code and policy, I think that would do a lot for those residents. Member Risser, um, this is back to the tunnel and um, the eligible versus authorized and one of this is tangentially related, but it has to do with overall financing. Um, we have in the public record noted this amount of money and that it could be used for the tunnel. Does that possibly undercut our chances of getting grant money from say federal, county, state? Because, you know, if we've got money, are they, you know, more likely to go, oh, we don't need to finance this? I I can speculate um I member Risser on that and that is one of the things that has uh been helpful to us in gaining access to grant funds especially in the area of sidewalks and trails has been that we have an independent source of money to match those grants. Um many communities don't and so that puts us at an advantage in some programs when we do have some money of our own that we can uh that we can look at and we can pledge to the project. So, I don't I don't know if I can evaluate like especially now there's a lot of flux in the federal funding of of local infrastructure, but that we would certainly look at grants if if we if we do get an authorization vote from the council. Thank you. On the other issue as well, can we address Miss Greers? Well, let me go back first to um um Sandy Carlson's um concerns. I think we've that's something that that we were aware of a couple of weeks ago and you've been working on. I think I don't know if you're prepared to opine on that publicly, but I know you've been talking to city attorney and and Kerry Teague about it who's not here with us tonight. There, Mr. Mayor, members of council, there are me number of issues. Some of those that she shared with us tonight, we have not had a chance to sit down as a group and talk through. Um, we will do that in preparation for the for the meeting on the 17th of June. Yeah. Okay. Member Risser, u I would just like to comment because I was there. I was one of the three and um I knew there were only going to be three of us. I found that out the day of the meeting. I didn't have time to do a deep dive to figure out the ramifications for that when I arrived on the agenda, you know, and I could see online that it said very clearly um favorable vote of majority of council members present to approve except we're noted and there were five items, four of them I supported. Um one of them and this was item 92 was broken up into separate votes and I I voted against each one of those. I didn't know what you know the ramifications of that and I feel like I didn't have a chance to vote in a fully informed way and I am very concerned and rattled by this because I did take an oath of office to support and defend the constitution of the state of Minnesota and to the best of my abilities I can't do that if I don't get accurate information. So, I just wanted to say that. Thank you. Uh, to the point about the pedestrian crosswalk on Eden Avenue that Nancy Greer has has raised, I think. Um, Director Miller, are you going to Didn't you recently speak with Miss Greer or was that something that's yet to happen? No, we met last week. We had a discussion similar to the comments you heard this evening. Um, they did um a group did put in a request to make that crosswalk safer last year. that went through the traffic safety committee and we did approve as a committee a flashing uh advanced flashing light flashing bulb um similar to when someone pushes the button for the crosswalks. We're reaching out to the manufacturer to see what the status is of that. So, it's on order. We It is approved. So, it's coming. In the meantime, I talked to parks this week and they're going to trim the trees that are next to the speedway trees and landscaping that are coming off that wall that impacts some of the sight lineines. So, it'll make it slightly better, but it's not going to do what a advanced flashing light can do. It is a tricky stretch of road with the curvature and kind of the blind spots. And then if you're coming from west to east, you're going downhill. You pick up speed. Somebody's down on the curve trying to go across. I could see where it's uh it's it's a tough spot to try to figure out a way to get pedestrians safely across. So, anything we can do to enhance that safety, I think we should we should think about, including a heard mention uh at least on a temporary basis, maybe a speed hump. So, member Agnu, I'm going to turn to you, too. Yeah, thank you. Um, and I know that when we have some of those curves, even having lights might make it hard. I'm curious, could we also stagger lights, I don't know how many feet, right? 50 ft away from that crosswalk as like notice for people who are at a different level of the curve. That's what was approved. Okay. So, we have the flashers today at the crosswalk and those are the ones that are tough. These are advanced for drivers up the hill and around the curve. Like the flashers are going now. You can see that in advance of entering the crosswalk area. Thank you. Pierce has another side too. Oh, thanks uh Mr. Mayor. So, I won't try to resolve the problem. I trust that that you guys have looked at it and you've come up with a solution that we're waiting to implement. I would though encourage us to do to consider some of those temporary um road treatments so that it can be safe now safer now while we're waiting. Okay. Um and I know we have the ability to be able to do that pretty quickly. Okay. Thank you. Member Agnu started to speak. I thought that she was coming up with an idea which maybe you were thinking about it in this fashion, but you know sometimes when you're on uh like a stretch of US highway uh two-lane and there's a it's controlled by a traffic traffic light, you'll get a warning about 50 yards back, the light starts to flash. It's about to turn red. Is that what we're That's what we're talking about. Yes, that's exactly what we're ordering and I need to find out where we're at with that. So in addition to lights at the crossing that somebody can press a button and they flash like we have on Hazelton Road for example when you're using the the pedestrian walkway there down the prominade. This this will also forewarn drivers going in each direction that there's a pedestrian ahead. Yep. The lights are already at the crosswalk. There's already flashers there. Okay. That was with the Avidor project. Now, we need that advanced warning light that you both re referenced for that crossing. Rejection. Well, I just want to echo Miss Greer's experience. I was at the library and saw someone almost get hit crossing there. So, it's it's frequent and urgent. So, just as urgent as possible. Thanks. Okay. All right. Anything else on comments? All right. Very good. Thanks for being here, folks, and bringing your concerns to us this evening. Um, so we got the consent agenda and um, member Risser wants to remove items 6.3 and 6.7 and uh, is anyone else on the council desires removing an item from from the consent agenda? Excuse me. All right. With the exception of items 6.3 and 6.7, is there a motion to approve the balance of the items on the consent agenda in a single motion? So moved. Second. Member Jackson moves member Pier seconds the adoption of the items on the consent agenda with the exception of items 6.3 and 6.7. Uh any further discussion? All those in favor of adoption of the motion stated say I. I. I. Opposed carried. All the items on the consent agenda adopted with the exception of 6.3 and 6.7. And now we'll turn to 6.3 which is a proposed master services agreement for program management with Tegra Group. And uh member Russer uh you had a concern there or just some information. Just wanted to get further information about that. I had a question from a resident. Um so I did ask manager Neil to summarize what that is about. Uh thank you member Risser, members of council. Uh the Tegra group is a is a group that we have been working with for probably the last 12 to 24 months. They're a project management uh group. We've had really uh good success with integrating their folks with our folks on our on our construction sites, project construction sites. Uh this really is this issue is really related to the uh workload management for our own team, right? So we don't we really try to be careful not to add too much staff uh when we're getting through kind of a bubble in our workload. We trim that bubble off with with consulting partners and that's that's what this is. So, they're going to work with us on projects related to our ice arena project, uh, our various park projects that are in play. They've been working at the fire station project. So, they're a group we have um, a lot of faith in and and have been able to work with pretty well as opposed as opposed to hiring new personnel be full-time employees were using consultants. That's correct. Director Miller, any supplemental comment? Well, I'd say this this sets the rules between the city and Tega Group. You're going to see individual proposals come in front of you when they actually get work. So, this is just setting the parameters of our working conditions and then proposals will come to you for approval as we continue to suggest using this firm in the future. All right. Very good. Director Milner has used this master service agreement concept with uh with engineering consultants for for many years and and we find it is a good organized way to set the terms of engagement with a consultant. Any further questions? member is there somebody on council care to move the adoption of item 6.3 which would be the proposed master services agreement for program management with taggra group so move second member moves member Agnu seconds the adoption of the master services agreement for program management with tear group any further disc further discussion all those in favor of adoption of that master services agreement with tger group say I I opposed carried that uh agreement uh adoption is approved and Um then let's move to 6.7 which was a good one to pull too I think to get a little more discussion about that conversion that we're ongoing uh with some of our heavy equipment and member I'll turn back to you again for 6.7. Well as I look at the air quality alert today um I think this is a good idea to pull this one out. Um, and I was also kind of interested in learning more about the federal funding and the state funding and the, you know, percentages of grants that we got because that is so important to be collaborating with different funding sources. Yep. I can give you that. Yeah. Thank you, Mayor Mayor's Council. The B100 project, we are retrofitting 10 heavy duty diesel fleet trucks to run on bofuel, the B100. So you need a separate thing to spec in the in the winter time to warm up that fuel so it can be used during winter operations because bofuel gets gummy in the winter. So we're converting 10 trucks. Uh we have five grants that we've received. We received grants from the US Department of Agriculture, the Minnesota Commerce Department, State Competitiveness Fund, USDA funding, Department of Energy, the Minnesota Soybean Research and Promotion Council, and the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency. So between those, it is almost a half a million dollars of grant dollars to this project. We'll be the first agency in Minnesota using this. Uh Iowa has one city in it, but we think we're going to be leading this and seeing a lot more people wanting to do these retrofits to lower emissions anywhere from 75 to 90% on those big heavy fleet vehicles, which are impossible to do with EVs at this point. 75 to 90% in terms of reduction of reduction of Y. Good. And and also it says it will improve air quality. So, yep. Yay. Um and we're in the red today. So, ah um thank you. Thank you for the work that went into that. As we walked upstairs this for the work session, somebody told me that we were the fourth worst air quality. I don't know if it was in the world or in the United States today because of the smoke. So, member Risser, you care to move 6.7. So, move second. Motion by member Risser, second by member Pierce to uh approve the request for purchase for the biodiesel B 100 conversion kits for the heavy duty vehicles uh in our public public works department. Uh any further conversation on that? Any further discussion? All those in favor of adoption of that request for purchase or approval of that request for purchase say I. I. I. Opposed carried. All right. Thank you for that. That takes care of all the items on the consent agenda. We're going to turn now to the reports and recommendations portion of the agenda and uh resolution 202543 uh would be one that accepts donations on behalf of the city of Edina from folks. Uh is there motion on that resolution 2025-43? So moved. Second. Member Pierce moves. Member Jackson seconds the adoption of resolution 2025-43 which accepts donations on behalf of the city of Vina. Uh any further discussion? All those in favor of adoption of resolution 2025-43 say I. I. I. Opposed. Carried. 2025-43 is adopted. And uh for this reporting period uh all of those donations are to the Adina Senior Center and some are cash donations and they're inind donations, food donations. Uh the most significant one in the in the in the group from the standpoint of uh a monetary cont contribution uh came from the next door neighbor upstairs, the upstairs neighbor, the friends of the Adidina library, donated $2,000 uh to the senior center. We thank him for that and we thank everybody on the list. Their names will appear on the um uh on the website here as donors to the city of V of Edina. So, thanks for that. Uh, and now we are on to the next item, uh, which is, uh, we're going to get an, uh, just an update here. This is not an action item, but we're going to get an update on that, uh, Rosland Park pedestrian bridge that we've, uh, approved, and I think we welcome Director Milner back, and we may ask him a couple other questions about a couple other projects as well, but let's uh, let's hear about the head bridge. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Mayor, members of council. Um yeah, we felt it was time to give you an update. We've been working on the project. This is our project team. Bolton Mink is doing the engineering. Snow Krylike architects and then we brought on a fabricator Anderson Bridges. So all the graphics and layouts on this presentation are kind of draft at this point, but we're making headways and there's a key some key points that we need to share with the council at this time. Um just to remind people this was the alignment of the bridge looking down on it. So on the south or the lower part of this graphic is in Rosland Park. And on the north that's the alignment of those of the ramp on the north side of Highway 62 next to that neighborhood. And the dash line is that future potential noise wall that MDOT's currently working on. This was the architectural concept that you approved about a year ago uh from Snow Kryle with the cladding on there that unique cladding that we're doing and the unique pillars there. And this is looking from the park heading looking north to the highway. And another graphic of the ramp down in the park with that continuous cladding that comes off the bridge down the ramp and into the park. You're looking to the south now. So why are we talking tonight? So we presented these two options when we met with you recently. Uh the one on the left is that ramp on in the city park without stairs. One on the right is with stairs. So those were the two things we were thinking about. And at the time I said we would see if we can afford to do the stairs based on what we're seeing with the industry at the time. So we've continued to analyze those. This is what it looks like from a architectural standpoint. The one on the left is without and the one on the right is with those stairs. So we've been doing some analysis and some budgeting. And uh just a reminder we have $6 million. It's all state funded project. We don't have any city funds involved. Uh we are cost estimating with a contingency um because you find unknowns, right? We got tariffs. We don't know what that's going to be when we start ordering materials. Soils, we're finding some unusual soils right out the front door here on the interchange project. There's just so many unforeseen. So we always want contingencies until we actually have a contract awarded. Uh with the stairs, we're at $6.5 million. So we're removing the stairs from the project. We also can't afford to bury those power lines that go right over that ramp. So, we're looking at potentially raising up the Excel lines on the top and maybe just burying the communication lines that are on the bottom that are closer to that. So, there's two big things that we would have liked to do. The budget's not allowing it at this standpoint. If we see differences, we still aren't going to bid project till December or January. Maybe we see some different cost estimating or cost differences in the industry and maybe we add it back in at that time. But right now, I'm not confident we can do the stairs or bear those power lines. Are you going to are you going to have those included as bid alternates on the right now? We were not because we weren't even close to the budget. We didn't even see a reason to include them at this time. So unless there's a change in the markets, we don't see that being we don't want to spend the time and effort to design it when it's most likely not going to be because it's costing us money to do the design and stuff. So it's it would cost us money to continue that on a design standpoint and we really don't think it's realistic to include So, go back. Why don't you go back to that uh rendering and ask the council members what they think but um have any particularly strong thoughts about with the stairway without the stairway or doing it as a bid alternate? Because if the price of the bridge came in lower and anticipated at 6 million, you you'd you you'd have some cushion, but not as much as you'd like to do the stairs. Thinking about keeping options open and making an you know a decision further down the line, but maybe that's not possible. member does do the estimates, if I'm remembering correctly, we talked about how the walls were going to be angled, but if they went straight up, that would be cheaper. We've looked at every combination. We've looked at tipping, not tipping. We've looked at angling the cladding. We've looked at a lot of different options. And we're coming up to the stairs. Just no matter what option, that's not enough to make up for the stairs. Okay. So, in my opinion, I think we can afford it. We still got a big discussion with MDOT to allow the cladding over Highway 62. They may say we can't do this over 62 because you don't see too many bridges with this kind of cladding. So, that's a big discussion this summer that okay, we need to get approval. We can come back to you and say MDOT's allowing it or not. If they don't, that's a big savings of not having to clad over the highway. So I think let us get through that mindot approval process and see what they say and then we'll update these estimates and come back again probably in the fall and let you know where we're at. This is a forewarning for us is what you're forning. There's some things we'd like to have. We know we're all having budget discussions right now and we I want to be honest with the council on where we're at. Okay. So then the schedule we're submitting 30% Oh, maybe I'll is there a possibility that we could get because I know Mandot has their standard bridge that you see um pedestrian bridge as you drive with the metal on it and if we had this design but we had the metal standard MDOT fencing, could we get an estimate on how much that would be and maybe get a visual of what that would look like? So it would be sort of a morphing of these two concepts. the what you're talking about is in this that's required behind all this fancy cladding. We're doing a standard bridge with the standard stuff already over the highway. So that's already in the numbers. The cladding is the extra. Okay. So what I'm asking though is could we get an image without the cladding just to see what it looked like or that's what we started with. You remember that? Okay. I gave you a bunch of different examples of all that and I can resend those reports to you. when we get into that form versus function discussion or and function, but I I think there's a real just the design without the cladding. I mean, it's a nice thing that they've come up with. I think I don't know. Um maybe angle the standard MDOT fencing. No, that'd be weird. We're making it probably straight across the highway. The steel bridge is going to be straight and the and these panels will be angled to meet this architectural look. I'm still concerned about MDOT allowing these panels over the highway. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. What's the cost of the cladding again? The increase over the standard bridge. Do you remember? Uh, no. I I don't want to quote something I don't have right in front of me. So, we can find that out and bring that back on the next discussion. But, we're asking Snow Cry like what would happen if it's not clatted here? What would happen if to your scenario your AR aesthetics for your design? I think the the stairs, like I just think that's a beautiful design. So, I would love to have the stairs. Uh but um with within reason, like if we can't afford it, we can't afford it. Uh but if there are ways that we can um alter the project to get that look, um I would I would be in favor of that. Um, and if looking at your slides, you're we're $700,000 at least over budget. Um, if you once you add the power lines and the stairs, so that's a pretty big gap to to close just from a design perspective, I think. And I guess the qu you know, this is the stairs on the park side, which are a little more elaborate. Yeah, we estimated with stairs on both sides. We didn't think we would have stairs on one and not the other, but we could do stairs just on one side, but I don't know what the council has an opinion on that. It's kind of a tighter, narrower stairwell on the other side. I know the residents over there wanted stairs. So, I feel like it's either two stairs or no stairs because I don't think we'd want to do just one side, but we'll continue to look for the cost, potential cost savings, and see all these conversations with MD. Go. All right. Thanks. Member Jackson has a comment, too. Um, yes. spend as little money as you can on this until we hear from Mindot and then we'll know what we have to do have to know but you know we're looking at ways to cut money. I don't want to add I don't want to add money to this project and even planning costs. So that's my personal opinion on this. Yeah, we had to get to a certain level to even submit. So we're doing that we're doing that. No, you're doing a great job and I'm applauding you and and keep up with the cost consciousness. Thank you. We're in a we're in a wonderful spot when looking at both function and form. I think it really something that's a standout marker for Adina for our community as you come into town or you're leaving town really. So just a little bit it's a piece of sculpture really. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for that update. Just a little bit on the schedule here before we close. We're submitting the mindot next week and then we still want to get final approvals this fall with a bid late this year, early January. 2026 construction. We want this thing built. I want them starting early in the spring so it's open partway through the summer next year for all of our various users to be able to use. So Okay. Thank you. And we'll roll right into the next thing that you've got. Oh, member Haggio, excuse me. I assume when we do this construction, we have to take down the existing bridge before the new one comes up. Is that correct? That's correct. Thank you. It'll happen. We'll take it down at night where it can't. It'll be similar a night closure. The bridge will come down. They'll build all the foundations. Then we'll close the highway again and take a big crane, which you're seeing about six of them out here. A crane will just lift that thing in overnight and be placed and ready to go. So, it'll be there'll be no crossing over that time. also have to use other areas to get to that park. As someone who uses this bridge many times a week, I will find alternatives, but I will I'm really excited for it. I I do think it's going to be beautiful and and really add because today you can't push a stroller right up the stairs. Um so I am really excited um for the progress. So thank you. Great. Thank you. Now you're going to roll into a topic that all of us have been hearing about. I think um and all of us have empathy for folks living along the rail line and as we try to figure out what how to create a quiet zone and it's it's got many steps to it and you're here to talk a a little bit about that. Exactly. Yeah. Railroad quiet zone process. So a little bit of history there's 4.2 miles of track. CPC Rail operates in Nina north to south with seven crossings. Uh they operate, they're starting to operate about a year, a year year and a half ago, 24 hours. That's why all the uh concerns and comments are coming because they're operating at night and that's been a change of operations. They're required by federal law to sound that horn at every one of those seven crossings and they have to do it uh at least 15 seconds and up to 20 seconds before the crossings. and they have a pattern of two long blasts, one short and another long. They have to do that every time they do one of the crossings. So, reminder, we have no control over those operations. Residents are asking for relief from those horns at night. We applied for that federal grant. We were not successful and we currently have no budget allocated for a safety/quiet zone study. Our neighbors to the north, St. Louis Park, is doing one or are doing a study. They had done one 20 years ago, so they have a head start. They're just updating a plan. So, the cost for us to do one is much more than what you may see. And if you ask those individuals there, uh it's because they had done a previous study and they're updating it now. So, it would be cheaper than for us to start. Quiet zones 101. Uh the location where the train crews do not routinely, right, a quiet zone is you're not routinely announcing or blowing those horns. They still may blow them. If there's a car, if there's a pedestrian, if there's animals on the track, they're still going to blow the horn. So this is where they would re routinely and most likely stop sounding those horns. It's approved by the Federal Railroad Administration. So that takes a lot of time. Local governments are responsible for all costs to establish these zones. A segment may qualify if alternate crossing improvements are made to mitigate those risks from a lost train horn. So first thing they'd like to do is just close the crossings. Well, that's not typically uh one thing that can be done in most cases. Can you make it a one-way conversion? Do you use the quad gates? Do you do medians? Because even with the gates, cars can drive around the gates. So, you got to put medians. Uh power out indicators. If the lights are out, what happens? Median signs, pavement markings. Zones are based on that risk analysis based on the current and past data of that crossing. That risk analysis determines those mitigation requirements. And that process takes two plus years once a financial plan is developed. So we would work through the whole study, do a plan, come up with stuff. It is still major capital to to do a crossing. If crossings are within a half mile each other, you have to do them both to do the quiet zone. If it's further than a half mile, you can establish individual quiet zones of those seven crossings. So some residents are very concerned. You're getting emails. I'm getting emails. It's a quality of life thing. Um, we also heard some opinions in the opposite that they like to hear the train noise or they don't even hear it and they live right there. So, just make you aware I do get calls both ways because this topic's been out there. Process is lengthy and costly. The study just to get started is 200k. The capital to implement those risk mitigations. I just put question marks. It's it's in the millions when you think about medians and curbs and crossings and power and lights and all that stuff. So happy to enter questions, but that was kind of quiet zone railroad 101 from someone that hasn't done one before. So member, I appreciate your um presentation. I also appreciated the Rosland Park presentation. And if we could get both of these posted online because they weren't in the packet, I think that would be really helpful for residents as well as for council people. Good. Good thought. Yeah, Sharon usually takes those and puts them into the packet and again if I can get it ahead of time then I can reflect on it and um so but thank you. So um my understanding is that we're just about done with that or maybe they are complete completing that 2024 audit uh and looking at fund balance and so we're going to hear about that on the 17th of June. Is that that's correct? and and there may potentially be some funds available to think about things like this. It's it is possible then it'll be we'll seek council action for uh when we accept the audit for how we might deal with the unencumbered fund balance thank you um first I do think that that is something that we should definitely consider as a a council and I know it won't be for another two weeks um but I I do think that this is really important and I know we had applied for that grant but didn't receive it but when you think about the impact impact of being woken up multiple nights a week. Um, granted, maybe not everyone is feeling the impact, but I've received the videos from residents of them taking the recording of the trains passing by their house and it is so impactful to many, many residents. And so, I do want us to do something. And so my reaction to this, well, first appreciate you pulling all of this together because it obviously is really complex and there's a lot of it that's outside of our control, right? And hearing that the soonest we're going to have any relief for these residents is two plus years away is really hard to stomach. And so my question is is there anything else we can do right in the short term? Is it you know working with the railways like and I know that historically that has not been uh necessarily productive. Um, but I guess that's where I'm just asking like what are some of these different ways that we can actually move the needle in the in a shorter amount of time than two years. I don't see it to be honest with you. We've reached out to the railroad. They said, "Yep, that's our operations. We may change it tomorrow. We may not. We may add more trains." Um, I guess I almost compared to this the airport noise. Where did we get movement on that? We went to the federal level and are elected there to make any progress. So that's one option I guess in this man. The rail the railroads have enormous power. Exactly. And influence. I mean they've got the power of eminent domain you know like government as they were set up years ago. It's private track. It's a private business. They're on their own property moving this freight. But nonetheless, I did have a conversation with the president of Twin City and Western. I thought it was them that had changed their patterns, but it's not. It's I think it's CP Rail. Yep. So, they're down in the Sooline building downtown, I think, or they used to be. It used to be they got bought out by Kansas City and now they're headquarters in Kansas City. So, we don't have local representation anymore from Okay. So, there's nobody to go see here locally anymore about about this. So, to me point, yeah, I can uh let's find out who we can talk to in Kansas City. I think we should try to use the bully pulp a little bit and see what happens. Okay. What What else are we going to do? We got to try some things. Yeah. Member Pierce. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Uh so I I agree with um member Agnu. Like it just doesn't feel good to look at, you know, the presentation, which thank you for the train. Bringing good news tonight. Um but no, it's pretty clear in the first slide. we have no control. There's nothing we can do. Um and it just it feels hopeless. Um especially when residents are being impacted. Um and frankly, I just don't think that's a good it's not a good answer. Um, and so in in instances where you're kind of facing reality for what it is, then we got to figure out if we can be more creative and and how we can get some relief. I don't know what what that means. Does that mean we need to do the study? Probably. Uh but it would be helpful to um in lie of going through the full study just taking what we know about um the process and I'll use the example um there's seven um cross what do you call them crossings and you said if they're within a mile and a half of each other then you need two zones like you were talking through some of that um like it would be good for us to at least have a view of what in our city here's what we think we would do um just so we had some kind of sense of um how disruptive it would be to implement those quiet zones. So so without that it's just really difficult to even have the conversation with a a resident. And I'm saying this as someone who when we lived in Hopkins, we were in a town home that was next to the the railroad and our town home shook when the rail the train went by. Um and you know we just had fun with it. I the girls were little and so we would somebody would yell chugga chugga choo choo every time the train came through. Um, but we certainly couldn't have done that for multiple years. That was like eight months for us. So, we made it fun for a little bit. So, it would help to have a little bit more understanding of um the impact to put these quiet zones in place and then doing a little bit more in-depth research to say, hey, what what are some of the options that we have other than just saying it's, you know, we have no control. And then I also understand why they're doing this from a safety perspective as well. So, Um this is causing me to think about a few years ago Shore View was able to I think accomplish the quiet zone strategy and the mayor then uh told me that uh it made a tremendous difference in the community once they were able to designate the quiet zones and uh you know get as part of that bill those safety measures and crossing guards whatever it took. Uh member Jackson, member um yeah I just have a clarification question. you said compared it to the MAC when we had the airplane noise and it's my understanding that even if we get our congressmen and our senators all hyped up and everything it would still just be the bully pulpit that that we don't have the same level of control over the railroads as the um yes as the um Congress would have over the FAA. That's exactly correct. sad to say I I've done this a couple of times in my career in terms of setting up a starting the process to set up a quiet zone. There there is a there is a risk associated with the bully pulpit when you deal with railroads because they are they are really involved and this is their trackage. If they don't want to do it, they can make this go longer for us too. So we we just need to be strategic about it and come to the table the right way and and interact with them in a way that brings them to the table too. Thank you. I want to layer on to what um member Pierce said as well of looking at those seven crossings and coming up maybe with like that next level of strategy because I don't think that all seven we necessarily need to prioritize as being quiet zones. I'm assuming that there are some that are more impactful to residents. So maybe layer in that as one of those point points of view of if we had to start somewhere where the ones that there are really residents right along there. Um that I think would be helpful in continuing this discussion. Uh member um I support what people are saying. I do want to acknowledge director Milner's workload and also you know some of the things that we have kept saying about budget and adding on to it and I just want to ask whether what we're talking about is you know advocating for him to go explore this. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. And now we've got um manager Neil who's going to talk a little bit about um something that we've been discussing and that is a potential agreement with Henipin County to transfer assessing services from the city to Henipin County. Thank you your honor. Members of council, uh we have been working on this uh topic for about half a year in the later half of 2024. there's some council interest in in getting uh in contact with Henipin County to see if there was some possibility of transitioning our our assessing services to the county. Uh the county was interested in that. They they have been working on that as well with the other uh eight cities in Henipin County that have assessing services. Uh in the end uh Maple Grove and Adina were the two cities that decided uh to pursue a transition into the county. Uh so we have done that. We've had multiple uh conversations with uh county administration uh about how this would uh how this would be happen, how this would be done. Uh there is a joint powers agreement for assessing services u is part of this action tonight. Uh the uh joint powers agreement was reviewed by legal counsel from both both well both cities and and the county of course. Uh Hannipin County uh approved this earlier this morning in a committee uh setting and the city of Maple Grove approved the joint powers agreement last night at their council meeting. Uh this this uh proposal if the council approves would begin the process of transitioning those trans those services from the city to the county. Uh we've had an like I said a number of conversations with county staff about how that would be done. there is some interest in county staff about reaching out to our staff uh to offer uh employment to them if if they're interested in doing that. But otherwise uh the idea here is that our we would uh lay off our assessing division employees with one exception. Uh we would uh use those savings to reduce the rate of growth of our property tax levy which is the overall direction that council gave to me for our 2627 uh budget process. We think we can save depending on when this transition occurs somewhere between around $600,000 in 2026 and more than that in 2027. Uh that has the capacity to lower that rate of growth uh by 1 and a half to excuse me 1.25 to 2.25% uh in these two upcoming years. Uh and that would be incorporated into our budget proposal should this proposal go forward tonight. Um we have been uh keeping our assessing staff in informed about this transition. Uh we have a proposal to meet we have a plan to meet with them and talk through the severance process. And there's a small severance benefit that we are uh going to propose to them some additional uh career counseling or career assistance uh work as well as part of this action. And I'm happy to answer any questions the council may have. I think it's good to hear that. You know, I think for all of us, we were concerned about the employees that presently work here and what would happen if, you know, we went about this task of trying to save in the end be around a million dollars a year for them because they've worked here a long time and we appreciated this the job that they've done and the service they provided. So, it's good to hear about some of the things that you're doing in conjunction with the county. If I remember right, you said um at one point in time that for the first cities that were interested in entering into a joint powers agreement with the county on the assessing issue, it's more likely that our employees, in this case Maple Grove and potentially ours, if we approve this uh would be the first to be potentially offered employment by the county. Right. That's correct. Whether they would choose to work for the county or not, that's their choice, of course. But to know that we've tried to make the landing as soft as possible, I think has really been important to all of us. Other comments from council members, member Risser? Uh I believe this came up in our last work session just how the narrative surrounding what this means financially for residents and you can say yes and it will have a significant impact on property tax but that doesn't mean magically the cost just poof disappears and doesn't show up elsewhere and so it'll be redistributed across Henipin County and that will be the situation. I did reach out to a council person from Richfield to just find out more about that and they have been using county assessment services for a really really really long time. Um and so that was kind of interesting to know that but um just want to make that clarification. Yeah. And I I think it's important for residents because we did hear from a couple people about you know don't try to tell me this is making things go away. um our expenses completely disappear. Sure. But we're spreading it. It would be spread across not 55,000 people, right? Or 25,000 households, but spread across managers. Neil, you probably have that data. I do. Um well in hand. You know, right now we spread uh 1.4 million, we'll say, over 20,000 parcels in our community. We're talking by by transitioning this to the county, they will spread 1.4 million. Let's say just for sake of argument that's they can't do it any cheaper, more expensive than us. They would spread 1.4 million over 440,000 parcels. So it's it's a it's really a a big difference in in how that impact is felt by those taxpayers. Member Jackson and thank you. Um, one of the things that when we started this too is we were looking at residents or property taxpayers in Edina were paying for Edina services but also paying for other communities in Henipin County. And so now we will be pulled with those. So we won't be double paying we'll just be single paying for the assessment services. And I thought that was a very persuasive and I just want to say it's never easy to lay people off and and we just really appreciate the hard work and the professionalism and everything that our assessors have done and this is a very difficult decision but I think it's an important one. Right when I take it from you. Yes. Thank you for that member Pierce. Uh thanks Mr. Mayor. So, I had two questions and the first one was um we talked about expected service levels like what can residents expect with this change? Um and so we've had an email that tried to articulate that. But my ask there is that we have some kind of that that be part of the communications plan so people know what to expect. Yes. Um, and then two on the allocation model. I'm still not sure how I get allocated my share of this. If it's just as a homeowner, if it's just embedded in my property taxes from the county or what? So, can you maybe speak to that? Yes, the that answer is yes. That's okay. When you think about how we comp how we compose our comprise our tax levy, it's our it's our general government costs uh and we spread it over the entire tax base. So we don't spread it exactly by parcel because parcels have different value to them. But but that's how you share you you distribute that cost around to the entire tax base and the county does it the exact same way. Okay. So that would be another thing that I would say in the comm's plan. Um, and you kind of hypothetically said it this way, but maybe that is accurate. You said 1.4 million now is spread rather than 25,000 parcels, 400,000. 400,000. Um, and so knowing what the the factor is, if it's 1.4 4 million, right? Just give us the numbers there so that um we can at least visualize that one for the resident is cheaper than the other, right? Um so that would be good to have uh those two things. Um, and then this doesn't mean anything I don't think for this year, but for uh 2025 I am going to be on the board of appeals for the process. Um, and so we go through um orientation in the next week or so. Um, and so at the county level. At the county level. Yeah. Okay. And so um this doesn't impact us at all for 2025. Uh but you know when we do transition um it also would be good for residents to know u maybe the first two years or you know we could just check with uh um and see how we should say that. Okay. But it would be good to know for our residents to know that somebody from Edina is going to be on the board of appeals. Um that that role does cover appeals across the county, not just Edina, right? But still, I think that that would be um uh something good to to mention. Um, and then lastly, I just echo that it's definitely um hard, right, when you're making decisions that uh impact people in this way. And we don't we don't take that lightly at all. Um, and should we vote to move this forward? Um, definitely want to be sure we do what's right by those that have been running this service for us over the the years. Thank you for that. Greg, no. Anything? Nothing of of substance, I think, really to add. Um, I know that this has been a topic and I kind of echo some of the concerns, but I I do still feel comfortable moving forward. Um, decisions are are never easy when we're talking about people. But, um, I am confident that this helps us achieve our goal of reducing the levy. And I I think that we'll learn a lot along the way, too. Thank you, member. In one of our prior meetings, Manager Neil, we talked about the timing of transition and if we had uh maybe and you could address this more articulately than I than I'm expressing it, but uh it seems to me like there's some benefit. The sooner the better. Uh but we also could get caught in a situation where we don't have enough assessors if we need to get some work done in 2025. How do we navigate that? Right. So, we have engaged in a discussion with our city assessor about certain milestone activities and milestone dates that we need to have a certain uh level of staffing to to make those work. Um, if we can't make those work because we've lost staff and we've lost staff already, we've had one uh assessor that has moved on to another assessing uh assessing job. We would expect others to probably do that same same move. I if I would expect that. But if we do get to a staffing level where we can't perform the kind of the basic functions of that office, the agreement we have with the county says they will agree to step in early and uh make that make that agreement effective kind of the operational elements of it effective sooner rather than later. Okay. and and the numbers that you provided that we could see a savings of up to 600,000 plus in 2025 and potentially up to a million I think in 2026 if memory serves me right uh and thereafter um is there is there a timing element to 2025 in other words again the sooner the better is that is that a good thing well I just want to respond to what you just said the projections that are included in the memo are for 26 and 27 so we haven't projected any savings. Um, but for 26, if things go according to according according to plan, uh, and they go all the way to the end to to July 1st of 26, we have a savings that were estimated at around 600,000. If that goes sooner, uh, if we do that transition sooner, we accumulate more savings than than we would if we let it go all the way to uh, July 1st. that prompt any further questions from council members for manager Neil on this issue. Um, well, thanks for all your thoughts on this uh important consideration. It's the first time I've been involved in a conversation about potentially having a big change in a department and and getting something done by the county and uh we all worry about the people that are working for us as everybody has so well expressed. Um, having having had this conversation, is there a motion to approve an agreement with Henipin County to transfer assessing services from the city uh of Edina to Henipin County? Second. I'll second. All right. Member Pierce moves and member Jackson seconds the motion to approve an agreement with Henipin County to transfer assessing services from the city of Adana to Henipin County. Any further discussion along those lines in relative to that approval? All those in favor of the motion as stated, adoption of the motion as stated, say I. I. I. Opposed. Carried. Uh the motion is unanimously uh approved to enter into that agreement with Henipin County to transfer assessing services from the city to Henipin County. And we leave it to staff to work on the timing of all that. So thank you that thanks for everybody. Thanks everybody here for your comments and your input over time on that issue. Um I'm commission correspondents. We I'm sure we haven't had anything come in in the last hour and a half or so. No. And then uh manager comments. Uh thank you your honor. I want to introduce you to uh Karen Miller. Karen is right here. She's an assist she's a summer intern in our administration office. She's an undergraduate student at the University of Kansas. Right. Very good. Well, we've had that KU connection, haven't we? Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Um, and that's it for you. That's all for me. Thank you. That's the report out. Uh, should we start with member Risser? Um, I I do want to um again just briefly talk about what happened on April 16th where we had the vote that was incorrect and there were five items that were listed and the three of us were told that a favorable vote um was all just needed to have the majority of the three of us and there were five items there and I just kind of hold my breath and think What if one of those because other items I think um the Southdale Library and Art Center was one of those items and you know I just we need to be accurately informed about what we're doing. And I also want to say I'm I want to apologize to the residents of Edina because I should have caught this and I was talking to somebody and I started explaining what happened and I said two people voted and she interrupted me right away and said, "Oh, then it failed." And um I feel like I I wish I could go back in time and I could have taken time and I could have understood um what this meant and I didn't do that and but at the same time we need to be able to know what we're looking at, what we're getting and the way it's being interpreted is compliant. So um that is all I have. Thank you. Thank you member Jackson. Well, my absence on April 16th was not planned and this was a surprise to everybody and so I just want to say that um I'm sorry I I had other comments but yeah hold on we'll come back to you. Um, I don't think it has anything to do with who was president. It has to deal with whether a majority vote of the council was required or a majority of vote of the council pres members present was required and and uh and we're going to look at that relative to the ordinance. I don't think there's any infirmity on the resolution itself, but the ordinance I think maybe have to be addressed and we plan to do that, but mistakes can happen, you know, and we can rectify them. So, member Pierce. Yeah. Um, so one of the things that I do appreciate about the work that we do is like the vote does not say who on the council that was present that day, they voted in the affirmative. It says the council did. So whether I was present or not, when I get the call about it, yeah, we we voted for that. Um, and so I think, um, no matter who's present, when we have issues, um, it bothers me and I want to rectify those just as much as anyone else. Uh, but, um, I do I like the fact that we are a council, uh, once we take a decision. Um, so I wasn't planning to say that, but the second comment, which I think this is a good thing. Um the construction around city hall, the replacing the bridge. Um I think that's going well. I think it is. Um I've um um driven up there and parked and then walked to look over at the work that's going on. And a couple of times parents have brought their kids to to just look over and especially when the the bridge was coming down. Um and so I are there a couple of times when lines are backed up when you got to get through the OG roundabout? Sure there are. Uh but for the most part um I'm impressed by how quickly that work is going. Um, and for there to be that many detours, like it seemed like this time around it was fairly I don't want to say intuitive, but it was it was pretty quick. You it was faster this time to just understand the purpose and the flow of the detour. Um, and I I know that partially is um signage, so thanks for that. And then um I know we always think about what's the right way to do these detours. Uh but um I definitely think this one is is going well. And so kudos to any and everybody who is um trying to make this as palatable as possible uh for the length of time that it's going to take. So that's it. No. Thank you. Member Agno. My only comment and I I think you kicked us off with this tonight, mayor, but excited to see some folks at the um Edina Art Fair this weekend. So, just another plug. Um hopefully the air quality improves before then. Um I'm optimistic that it will, but excited to see some of you there. Yeah, it's a great plug. A great plug for the Adana Art Fair. Thank you for doing that. Uh we've got an MLC meeting tomorrow and we happen to be the host city. So, I don't know. I suppose anybody that's on the council that care would care to come out could come out. Manager Neil. I put you in an awkward spot. I guess we we'll probably have enough food. We hope so. For people and it's starts at 11:30 at the Brear uh clubhouse and that of course is that group of uh cities that we belong to, 19 in number uh city managers and mayors meeting. Um, we got a couple people we're going to recognize that are moving on. Uh, Clint Gridley, the city manager in Woodbury, and Diane Miller, the city manager in uh, Egan. And she's taking a job with an organization that you belong to, right? With the International City Management Association in Washington DC. She doesn't have to, she still gets to be Twin Cities based, but she's going to be the essentially the COO of that national organ international organization. And as I think about it, it might be good if some of you showed up because we don't know who's showing up tomorrow because of the legislature. We have invited guests. Uh we have I think for sure we'll have um Sean O'Neal, the senior director of economic development and research at the chamber to talk about economic development strategies in Minnesota and and his observations or that the chamber's observations from their research on how we're doing compared to other states around the country. Um, we got uh we have asked uh and have invited Aaron Campbell, the commissioner for Minnesota management and budget to come and give us a state budget outlook. Uh, and then we also invited the governor. I doubt the governor will be there but is invited. And then we invited Senator Lindseay Port from Burnsville to come and talk to us about a housing update and invited. Don't know if she'll she'll attend or not. So, uh, then we'll get a we'll get a legislative update there as well. And then there's a Southwest LRT meeting tomorrow. Now, that's about 85% complete. I think they're going to start running short trains over segments of the track to do testing fairly soon. The remaining work, I think, is primarily in Minneapolis. Uh, everything else out on the western suburbs is is complete, as I understand it. Uh, and um, yeah, it'll be an interesting year and a half or so until we get to the opening. So, that's about it for me. Um, that caused anybody to think of anything else they wanted to talk about? Okay. And, um, I think it looks like the, uh, city clerk's going to win the overunder. Always wins. Um, is there a motion to adjurnn? So moved. I second. Member Jackson moves. Member Agnu seconds uh the motion to adjourn the meeting of the Adena City Council this 3rd day of June uh 2025. Any further discussion? All those in favor of adjournment say I. I. I. Opposed. Carried. We stand adjourned.