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Edina Public Schools: August 9th, 2021 School Board Meeting
Edina City CouncilTuesday, August 10, 2021
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[0:19] all right we're now being live streamed uh lenny and matt so uh good evening tonight is monday
[0:26] august 9th and we do have a quorum so i will call this meeting to order the first order of business is agenda
[0:32] approval we do have one slight change the 2021-2022 return to school plan will now
[0:39] be a discussion item as opposed to a report with that change do i have a motion to
[0:46] approve the agenda for tonight's meeting so moved do i have a second second
[0:53] we'll now vote by roll call to approve tonight's agenda allenberg i
[1:00] fox aye green i jones i michaelson
[1:07] owen uh they need to be taken off mute they can't hear us
[1:18] owen and janie can you hear us
[1:25] no let's do walden friedman and come back all right thank you
[1:35] um
[1:43] do you want to just go with the five yeah we'll go ahead and approve the the agenda is approved um
[1:50] and we'll have without uh janie and owen voting
[1:56] and we're going to wait one second to see if because they obviously need to hear the board meeting voluntarily
[2:04] right um while we're waiting for that just one note of procedure since we have board
[2:09] members attending remotely all votes need to be done via roll call as opposed to
[2:16] by consensus action
[2:26] while we're waiting would you like to review the agenda for everyone watching dr stanley
[2:31] i'd love to do that great so good evening everyone again
[2:37] it's great to be here with you this evening so the big item that we will be discussing this evening is related to the return to
[2:44] school plan uh we also have policy that will be up for discussion
[2:49] and then director tope will be bringing information regarding the bond issue
[2:56] approval so we had the vote for the referendum in may and now we are
[3:02] bringing forward the bond issue approval we will also have leadership and
[3:09] committee updates and then i will provide an update as well
[3:16] thank you dr stanley
[3:22] they're still on mute on the screen
[3:28] he's working on it outstanding okay great
[3:34] erica why don't you call one of them on your phone and then they can hear you through the phone good idea
[3:49] i never thought i would want a zoom meeting back but
[3:55] hi they're having trouble unmuting you on screen
[4:03] okay okay
[4:08] okay
[4:14] i'm gonna um put you on speakerphone next to me so you can hear the speakers at least
[4:26] okay okay does someone else want to call owen so we can at least hear the speakers so we
[4:32] can move forward with the speakers
[4:38] you want me to call owen okay not you okay matt's gonna call owen so he can
[4:43] hear the speakers as well
[4:50] and director tope will you tell them that they can't see or hear anything
[5:09] just take them off speaker okay
[5:16] so we're going to move forward with hearings from members of the audience and pursuant to board policy 206 we ask
[5:22] that you do not duplicate information that has been previously presented if you have a complaint about individual
[5:28] employees board members or students in the district please direct any of these comments to the appropriate site
[5:33] administrator the superintendent or submit them in writing to the board the board typically does not respond to or
[5:39] have discussion on issues presented but questions raised during presentation will receive follow-up as directed by
[5:45] the board and finally i'd like to remind all speakers that your presentations are limited to
[5:50] three minutes when you have 15 seconds left i'll prompt you to wrap up your presentation
[5:56] um so first we have karen prieto is that correct thank you
[6:03] yes come on up there
[6:16] sorry turn the microphone on thank you go ahead you can start over if you want oh okay my name is karen prieto
[6:24] i'm an edina alumni i'm an edina resident and i have a daughter in the edina school system i'm also a nurse
[6:30] practitioner i've been in healthcare for 30 years and i'm here to support the mandatory use of masks in school
[6:40] and here's my viewpoint i know how challenging challenging it's
[6:45] been over the last year with people needing to wear masks you know hibernating fears financial issues
[6:53] and you know the need to try and rearrange our lives around covid
[7:00] but um then once after you know the covid the year of colvid you know there
[7:06] was hope in sight because we had three vaccines and it was really exciting because we thought this is hope for us to get out of this
[7:12] scenario um however to reduce the danger it did require a large
[7:18] portion of the population to get vaccinated and develop an immunity to the disease in order to reduce the
[7:25] spread of covert from person to person to date only 49.6 of the population has
[7:31] been vaccinated and this actually makes the coven virus very happy the goal of this virus is to
[7:37] find a host and one host is the human body the virus has the ability to mutate
[7:43] change and become stronger i feel right now we're at a david and goliath moment
[7:49] as the story goes goliath was bigger and more powerful but since david was smart
[7:56] and had a plan he defeated goliath that is how i feel we're at with the covet variant right now we have proven
[8:02] methods to defeat covid vaccines and masks have proven to be effective
[8:07] i think it is time for all of us to look out for each other and protect our loved ones
[8:12] when colvin 19 was first when it first appeared seemed to be only concerning for the elderly and those who were
[8:18] immunocompromised however with this new variant most of the hospitals and icus are now caring for
[8:26] people in their thirties also children are in pediatric icu beds
[8:31] like the state of texas for example has one of the largest pediatric hospitals in the nation and its pediatric ic beds
[8:37] are completely full they are needing to airlift sick kids to other hospitals
[8:42] and i know most parents will do whatever they can to protect their children so not why not wear a mask and get
[8:48] vaccinated in healthcare we look at the risk versus benefits of treatment yes sometimes the mask gets hot and
[8:55] itchy but it does prevent but if you but if it prevents you and your child from getting
[9:02] sick potentially having long-term consequences from the virus why wouldn't you do it and some of the response i get
[9:10] is you know i have rights sure you do have rights or how can i ask my child to wear a mask
[9:16] all day kids are resilient in order for kids in order for kids um
[9:24] really to have a full life and get back to normalcy we must all follow the best recommendations limit spread of this
[9:30] disease the only way to do this is by wearing a mask and getting vaccinated and that's
[9:35] why i want my school system to support the mass mandate in school thank you very much
[9:44] dr sarah preble
[9:54] good evening members of the school board and superintendent stanley my name is dr sarah preble i'm a parent
[10:00] of three boys two of which are old enough to be enrolled in the edina public schools i come here tonight not to speak as a
[10:06] parent but to speak as a doctor i am an internal medicine hospitalist and i've been leading the coping response at abbott for the last year and
[10:12] a half the last two school years have been unprecedented and i'm sure none of you imagine these types of discussions and
[10:18] decisions were in the job description for a school board member thankfully we have learned a great deal about covid
[10:24] and have k-12 guidelines based in science from the cdc and endorsed by the american academy of pediatrics and the
[10:30] minnesota department of health i ask you to follow these guidelines and not try to adjust them to appease the
[10:36] loud sector of parents who don't want their kids to mask at school we know that mass work but they work
[10:42] best by protecting others not just by protecting the wearer the mdh changed their definition of a close contact this
[10:49] year the exception is for students who are exposed to someone with kovid if both students were
[10:55] correctly wearing a well-fitting mask and other prevention strategies were in place
[11:00] this is a huge win for our students and schools and will absolutely lead to decreased numbers of necessary
[11:06] quarantines for students but it's only helpful if everyone maths and strongly encouraging mass in the
[11:12] high school is a dangerous hole in our layered mitigation plan how are the high school health services
[11:17] staff supposed to determine which student is masked and which student is not for every contact tracing event
[11:24] and when outbreaks do occur in the high school because i do believe they will with this plan the older high school
[11:29] siblings will quickly spread covid to their younger unvaccinated siblings we know the delta variant is much more
[11:35] transmissible than previous strains especially in the household setting contact context
[11:42] another reason to require masking for all is to decrease the prevalence of viral upper respiratory illnesses in the
[11:47] current era of covid a symptomatic student or teacher cannot and should not attend school
[11:52] depending on the number and severity of symptoms the student needs a negative coveted test or resolution of symptoms
[11:58] prior to returning to in-person learning doing everything we can to decrease all illnesses this year will allow for more
[12:04] time in the classroom my takeaway from last week's community thought exchange was this we all have a
[12:10] shared goal of consistent in-person learning in a safe environment i think we need to emphasize consistency
[12:17] and safety consistency is key so we don't have quarantines disrupting in-person
[12:22] education safety is key so that students too young to be eligible for the vaccine aren't
[12:27] put into situations where transmission is likely i strongly urge you to extend required
[12:33] masking for all k-12 eps students teachers and staff so we can achieve our
[12:38] shared goal of consistent in-person learning in a safe environment thank you for your consideration and for
[12:45] the herculean efforts you all have put forth over the past year and a half thank you dr preville
[12:52] really fast i'm going to test uh janie can you hear us through the computer and see us yep yes okay i'm going to hang up
[12:59] on you then okay or you might have already hung up on me oh okay
[13:04] there we go okay thank you dr ann griffis
[13:13] [Music] hi everyone good evening chair ellenberg superintendent stanley members of the
[13:20] board and community my name is ann griffis i'm a parent of two children in the district
[13:26] i'm also a pediatric pulmonologist at children's minnesota
[13:31] my group takes care of quickly ill children for lung diseases as well as icu
[13:36] hospitalizations in minneapolis st paul gillette we take care of kids around the state in the highest volume of
[13:42] critically ill children i was pleased when i saw the recommendation for return to school that
[13:49] the priority was five days in person i was pleased to see universal masking in elementary and middle
[13:56] improvements in ventilation strategies hepa filters ongoing surveillance for symptoms
[14:02] where i see the holes to disrupt a five-day attendance is the high school
[14:10] last year pediatric hospitals closed wards they closed whole floors of the
[14:15] hospital because they had decreased viral infections that's not a bad thing when i have less work that's a good
[14:22] thing kids were healthier masks were a part of that vaccines help masks help social
[14:29] distancing helps when we use words like works we thinks and we think in absolutes
[14:35] everyone thinks that if you mask if you're worried that's helpful it helps partially but what helps most is for the person who doesn't worry the person who
[14:42] doesn't know that they are pre-symptomatic the person that doesn't know that they are contagious
[14:47] universal masking addresses that we're at risk of our immunocompromised patients and our immunocompromised
[14:53] students being at risk i i hear from my families in clinic that they feel they need to send their kids to virtual because
[15:00] they're afraid there won't be universal masking in school and i think that's a shame i think that leaves them behind
[15:06] i appreciate your time you all have worked tirelessly this past year i'm so proud of the efforts between the testing
[15:12] the vaccine what you've done to keep our kids learning i really appreciate that
[15:18] my hope is that we can reconsider what we're doing with the high school and the holes that we may be entering
[15:24] into lastly i would propose and it may be pie in the sky but it is my hope that we
[15:29] would have rapid testing available for students and staff using the binax now testing or other
[15:36] modalities through the state and through the federal government we could offer testing here
[15:41] on campus with some third party support yes due to clia status but that would allow better equity for
[15:47] our families and students and staff who aren't going to spend out of pocket for rapid testing to get right back to class
[15:53] so i think that's something to consider with our mission with equity thank you thank you dr griffiths
[16:00] um leslie bergston it's actually cecily
[16:06] i i apologize that's okay hey guys who's ready for this year
[16:12] okay hi i'm cecily bergston i am the school nurse at normandale elementary school here in edina this is very
[16:18] exciting to come and talk to you guys so hello okay so let's be real you guys that was terrible
[16:24] like right that was horrible and part of what was horrible was that um
[16:30] kids were being sent home all the time my job as a school nurse is to remove health barriers to learning so you know
[16:37] i got like diabetes here and asthma here and this sort of thing here and oh you got a broken leg here that kind of thing
[16:44] when covid hit this is not something that we thought we would ever encounter in schools and being in both worlds
[16:51] healthcare and schools we were hit doubly so our role is to keep kids in school
[16:57] learning five days a week we know this this is best for them i have talked to so many parents you guys like i can't do
[17:03] hybrid anymore she's just melting down i can't do this and like i have a first grader too this
[17:08] year and like that was terrible kindergarten virtual no thank you so in the efforts to keep our kids in
[17:15] school five days a week first we need to prevent as dr griffiths and dr prebble said to reduce the spread if we do not
[17:22] mask our high school students we are creating very large holes in our swiss cheese sandwich of protection of the
[17:29] smaller kids who don't have a choice when we were in session school session
[17:35] last year i did not see spread in school until after spring break when b117
[17:41] happened i saw so much spread and it freaked me out and this was with kids masking
[17:48] all day outside too distancing many kids got sick after one exposure
[17:54] during school and that equaled to many school days missed and i did some
[18:01] quick and dirty data this spring a high school sibling infected or caused
[18:06] their younger siblings to quarantine about 400 missed days from march to the
[18:11] end of the year 400 that is so many days that kids are missing out on school
[18:17] and so to create holes to like just sort of be like it'll be fine it's not going
[18:22] to be secondly as dr griffiths had said i would love to see rapid testing in my
[18:27] health office um dr pebble can you just play along with me here um hi sarah this is cece bergson
[18:34] school nurse at normandale how are you doing today good okay so your third grader has a
[18:40] sniffly nose and a headache you have to come pick them up um you also have to get them tested you also have to go pick
[18:46] up your unvaccinated sixth grader at valley view and you also have to come get your kindergartner none of them can come back until we know that the other
[18:52] child is negative you know it'd be great let me just swap you real fast just 15 minutes
[18:58] okay you're negative we don't have to pull your siblings out that happened a lot and so many parents had so much
[19:04] stress picking up their kids from these individual sites waiting on test results for their symptomatic sibling for the
[19:10] sniffles we have to do it this is the world we live in right now let's make it easy for our parents i
[19:15] hate having to stress our parents out even more my role is to support families in order for kids to learn their best so
[19:23] that being said thank you guys so much see you around
[19:30] thank you pamela balobusca ray
[19:39] hi guys in your fancy new world here [Music]
[19:45] okay [Music]
[19:51] um i'm gonna try not to get choked up but
[19:56] it's probably not gonna happen okay um first dr stanley i'm so glad you're here
[20:03] it's like so exciting so um
[20:08] i'm here to say thank you and i'm gonna try not to get choked up
[20:13] again um our family has had 18 years of learning
[20:18] and growing here at eps when our daughter was a baby
[20:30] we walked through the door at ecfe and figured out that we hit the jackpot
[20:37] i made lifelong friends there when the years have gone by in a blink
[20:43] we're packing her up for college right now um ecfe inspired me to get involved in
[20:50] our schools and i became more and more devoted to our little community over time
[20:55] our teachers and staff were simply the best and i'd go to the ends of the earth for them
[21:02] our family was wrecked by my breast cancer diagnosis in 2019
[21:07] i'm doing great now and i have an excellent prognosis
[21:13] we made it through only to join the entire world in experiencing and fighting a pandemic
[21:19] let's just say that things have been put into perspective i'm feeling pretty lucky to be in front
[21:25] of you right now it's time for some thank yous and a big dose of gratitude
[21:33] so here's a start i want to thank all of you the administration and staff and especially
[21:39] our beloved teachers here are just a few ways you made a difference
[21:45] your decisions protected me from getting sick due to my suppressed immune system
[21:51] eps had already been providing extra support to our family due to my cancer diagnosis and that continued through
[21:58] distance learning which was no small feat
[22:03] our teachers pressed on with incredible dedication and epic amounts of skill
[22:09] they showed extra care for us and always asked how we were doing
[22:15] i seriously bow down to them now our family gets to see eps from a
[22:22] community lens as we move on and here's what i'm impressed by
[22:27] eps followed the strategic plan by working in partnership with community leaders to welcome volunteer expertise
[22:35] in medicine and epidemiology including people in this room right now
[22:41] you partnered with business leaders to bring us test the nest a major accomplishment and something that should
[22:47] be copied across the country the vaccination clinics that eps held
[22:52] were wildly successful providing around sixteen hundred vaccines
[22:58] it's incredible last week dr stanley gave a back to
[23:05] school webinar to include the whole community eps consulting epidemiologist dr nick
[23:11] kelly explained where we're at from a public health viewpoint this is a public
[23:16] health problem it's the lens we need it was in layman's
[23:22] terms and would be a great source to share especially on social media
[23:28] go to the source not the rumors it's on the youtube channel
[23:34] i know we'll have set packs in the future i hope i can be more of a help and less of a critic when that happens
[23:42] there's no one right way to handle a situation that is wreaking havoc across the globe however
[23:48] mask wearing works it's one basic measure we can all take in our schools
[23:53] and across our community i hope to be able to see everybody
[23:59] around town soon and we can all spend time together i'm going to be
[24:04] hanging out in northeast edina working on equity issues i hope to meet you there someday
[24:11] but i just want to sincerely say thank you um might be my last time
[24:17] speaking at the school board meetings and i just care about everybody here so much and
[24:22] you've meant the world to me so thank you thank you [Music]
[24:30] thank you everyone that spoke tonight um we're now going to move on to our consent agenda is there anything anyone
[24:37] would like to remove from the consent agenda do i have a motion to approve the
[24:43] consent agenda so moved is there a second uh we will now vote by roll call to
[24:49] approve the consent agenda allenberg i thought green i jones i michaelson
[25:04] the consent agenda has been approved um now we're going to move on to our discussion items and the first one is
[25:10] the 2021-2022 return to school plan i'm going to turn it over to dr stacy
[25:16] stanley and dr randy smallzel to do a brief overview we did get an
[25:22] overview in our work session so we'll keep this short and then move on to
[25:27] board member questions but one thing erica just added as you mentioned earlier is there was a brief overview in
[25:32] the work session we held all discussion for this meeting so that if anybody thought they missed anything with the
[25:38] technical av issues we had all discussion at the board is happening now yep thank you matt also there's a full
[25:44] report and board book with very detailed explanation
[25:50] thank you thank you chair ellenberg i appreciate that so and thank you to everyone who
[25:55] came um to speak this evening um it is good to be here with you this evening and this is a really tough decision i
[26:02] had shared during the webinar that we are going to do our very best to get this as
[26:08] right as we can knowing that there is no perfect answer in the middle of this
[26:14] pandemic but i am glad to be here this evening to be able to present to you
[26:20] a proposed plan that i the goal of this plan is to have our
[26:25] students in school five days a week in person and as consistently as possible
[26:33] i have also moved to have this plan focus on phases and so this phase would
[26:40] be phase one so it's just from the start of school august 30th to september 30th i am proposing that we
[26:47] come back on september 13th at our board meeting look at updated
[26:53] uh data points look at vaccination rates covet infection rates
[26:59] look at where we're at with if we had to experience quarantine in our schools
[27:06] so the proposal that i have right now is that face mask would be required for early childhood through eighth grade
[27:13] students and staff and at this point the proposal that was put forward is to
[27:19] strongly recommend that 9th through 12th grade students and staff actually wear
[27:25] masks we have a variety of mitigation efforts that are
[27:31] in place that were outlined in the report and i am going to turn it over to
[27:37] dr smazel and turn it back to
[27:42] chair allenberg for any questions that might be in place
[27:49] did you have anything doctor smozel um well i can add just a few highlights
[27:55] from the report as well and then um we'll come back to questions so thank you chair ellenberg superintendent
[28:02] stanley our board members our community members our staff and our students who are
[28:07] listening to this conversation one of our great learnings last year was
[28:12] that the collaboration of staff across the district
[28:17] was able to pull a plan together and implement learning for students and we know that we want to augment that we
[28:25] want to really grow the amount of collaboration that happens with our adults so we have plans around how we
[28:31] continue to grow and deepen that collaboration with our with our adults and with our teachers we plan to
[28:36] implement some of that this fall it's called professional learning communities and there's a little bit in the report about it we can definitely
[28:42] bring more back to the board about that we also know it's really important to assess where our learners are at as they
[28:48] start the school year both in reading and math some of those foundational skills and literacies
[28:53] and so we have plans to do that as they come back we're going to use tools like fastbridge and tools like map
[29:00] to help us with collecting that picture but also our conversations with students we know it's going to be very important
[29:08] to continue to build our relationships with kids to renew those relationships as they have new teachers they have new
[29:13] friends and that'll be definitely a point of emphasis and focus as we come back to this fall plan
[29:20] [Music] last spring we did a survey with families at that toward the end of the school year in the beginning of the
[29:26] summer asking families about what kinds of learning options would you like to see in the fall virtual learning or in
[29:32] face-to-face and predominantly our our families have selected face-to-face learning but we did have some small
[29:39] populations of families that were in particular interested in some elementary grade levels
[29:45] for online learning and so we did plan for that and we are now also asking families
[29:52] again in some of these other grade levels where the interest wasn't there like k and one in grade six what that
[29:57] looks like now in light of what's going on with the delta variant so we have that survey that went out uh
[30:05] today if families have seen that if you haven't or you're not aware of that that did go out today just seeking additional
[30:11] information we do have some online learning classes at the high
[30:17] school that families have registered for as of last year i think we have eight seven different classes in 18 sections
[30:24] of those classes we've been working to refresh and reinforce our mitigation
[30:31] protocols from cleaning to filtration to masking to physical
[30:36] distancing and have discussed those and listed a number of those in the report and
[30:42] we are well prepared and well positioned with technology and how we'll leverage technology this year both with devices
[30:49] with networks with learning management systems we did extensive training with our staff last year around how to manage
[30:56] learning uh through these technology systems and the the benefit of that is that it
[31:01] provides a better experience for our families on the back end and a consistent experience kate k12 we use
[31:07] see saw in k2 and we use schoology in grades three through five
[31:13] we're trying another uh mitigation strategy is to use premiers substitute
[31:18] or reserve teachers at each of our schools so instead of calling up a substitute teacher if a teacher is going
[31:24] to be absent that may have worked in multiple districts we will have what we call
[31:30] premier reserve teachers who will be employed by edina public schools and be assigned to schools so that each of our
[31:36] elementaries will have a number of reserve teachers each of our secondaries will have a number of reserve teachers and they will
[31:42] work in only our district employed by identity public schools and we believe that's a another important mitigation strategy
[31:52] we have some protocols defined in the report about how we handle and plan to handle
[31:58] cases and and how we'll follow the mdh um decision tree in that respect and
[32:03] then i had shared at the work session one of the big differences uh this year that has changed in the
[32:09] guidance is how we handle cases when others around that particular student or staff member are masked and
[32:16] and we now have a change in how we do quarantine so if students around a positive case our mass
[32:23] is long as that is properly worn and fitted as our speakers described earlier
[32:29] then those students are not required to quarantine so our goal is to keep students in school as much as possible
[32:35] we know that we have some events coming up in the community with back to school orientations and we have
[32:41] this get connected day that we offer and so we're just going to ask families and
[32:46] visitors and students to bring their mass to those events so that we can make sure that we're keeping a safe
[32:53] learning environment for students as they come back to school we do have protocols designed around the
[32:59] lunches the first one is just trying to create space between students whether they're
[33:04] in elementary middle school or high school we've had some questions about why not eat in the classroom why eat in the
[33:10] cafeteria and one of the leverage points of the cafeteria is it provides actually larger
[33:16] space than in the classroom so we're trying to keep kids with space between them when they're
[33:21] eating we also will have the ability to monitor who kids are sitting with and so
[33:28] that can help from a contact tracing standpoint if we need to do that and uh so we'll be
[33:35] tracking that and then we're trying to again leverage as many spaces as we can so that
[33:41] kids are spread apart when they're eating we have transportation laid out so that
[33:47] kids are wearing masks when they're transferring on buses and our kids club and wiseguys programs will be offering
[33:54] the same protocols and use of the same protocols that we're using during the day lastly we will have a updated family
[34:00] dashboard that provides communication to families about what is happening what is going on in
[34:06] terms of the covet monitoring the technology that we're using maybe things around athletics and activities
[34:12] faqs etc so with that i'll pause a lot of that information additional details in the report
[34:18] but just want to make sure we have ample time for questions that the board has and we'll invite some colleagues up here to
[34:25] help support those questions as they as they come great thank you dr smallzel and dr
[34:31] stanley so from a question and discussion perspective i thought it might be um
[34:37] easiest and best to have to go around and have each board member
[34:42] give their general and immediate thoughts of the plan and then
[34:47] um provide their specific thoughts on the masking portion as well as their top
[34:53] two or three questions that they have or issues that they would like discussed
[35:00] if we do that at the beginning then we can see where we have consensus where we don't where if there are issues that
[35:07] float to the top that every board member has questions about
[35:13] so again it was your general feedback or thoughts your specific
[35:18] thoughts on the masking in particular then your top two or three questions or issues that you have
[35:24] um janey and owen did you hear that yes that's a good idea okay so i'm just
[35:31] going to start with lenny and then go around the board table and then go over to you um janie and owen um
[35:38] erica can i just jump in and owen i don't know if you're having the same issue but if i speak or if owen speaks
[35:45] there's quite a bit of feedback so i'm just putting that out there because i don't know how else to get hold of josh to let him know that so
[35:51] owen i'm not sure if you're having the same problem i'd hear you well
[35:57] because sarah john could you talk could you run in and tell josh that please
[36:02] we don't hear anything here but we're going to let him know that um okay that makes me feel better okay thank you
[36:10] so lenny so my general feedback is that i do approve in general of the
[36:15] recommendations within the report i do support masking i would say that my key question is
[36:21] given cdc and department of health recommendations for masking k through 12.
[36:27] how why does the report distinguish between high school no masking and
[36:33] k through 8 masking so i'm going to keep mine short and to the point
[36:40] i can respond to that so one of the things that we looked at were uh was the vaccination level of uh
[36:47] students and we don't have the exact staff numbers but the vaccination levels and we're
[36:53] going by the information that was provided at the webinar most recent information
[36:58] from dr kelly and at that point we believe that our
[37:05] 15 through 18 year olds that we had a vaccination rate of over 80 percent
[37:12] we received information today when we were able to specifically look at our
[37:18] students in our schools where our vaccination rate is 70
[37:23] as opposed to the nearly 89 percent and that was what went into making that decision
[37:30] uh initially was that we were closer to we were in the 80 percentages
[37:36] of vaccination rates okay but we're at 73 is what you're
[37:43] saying and that's for fully vaccinated yes and that
[37:49] they just received that information this afternoon wait dr stanley is that fully vaccinated or at least one shot that's
[37:54] at least one vaccination so not necessarily fully vaccinated and
[38:00] so i know you got the information today so does that cause you to rethink the
[38:06] recommendation at the high school level and i know we have till the 17th to
[38:11] decide and certainly information that we're taking under consideration
[38:18] do we know how many are fully vaccinated i don't have that information
[38:24] right now what they were able to pull is students who had had at least one vaccination
[38:33] matt okay i went through the uh thank you for
[38:40] putting together the comprehensive plan i think it's a good one uh overall brought in a lot of considerations uh i
[38:46] know that especially with literacy and the youngest kids were thinking about different ways to intervene if they had
[38:52] more language loss or issues in the kindergarten to second grade levels i know some concerns have arisen not just about in
[38:58] person but also about learning and speaking cues and things that are non-verbal
[39:03] that are important so i know there's a lot of background work that even wasn't included in the plan that's gone into that so i'm appreciative of that from a
[39:10] teaching and learning perspective i've tried you know we all have our own
[39:15] lens we all have our own levels of scientific background i don't deserve a white jacket uh but i've been in
[39:20] healthcare sector for some ways in 20 years and so i do read a lot of the primary
[39:25] information and i think that i fully support the kindergarten eighth grade well the first thing i'll keep in mind for all of this is that
[39:32] there's no permanence to anything in this environment right we've had to change many times not just i spend a lot
[39:38] of my time on the board in the budget arena and not as much in the teaching and learning to be honest so
[39:43] and i have younger kids i don't have kids in middle school or high school yet so i try to listen to what the nurses
[39:48] are saying i know at the elementary level but what the teaching and the nursing staff is saying and what they're experiencing and what the
[39:54] administration is trying to get done so keeping kids in five days a week is the absolute imperative we're all in
[40:00] agreement of that there's been no discussion otherwise i think that we're looking at a 30-day period and so
[40:06] if you're saying k-8 is mandatory masking to begin with and that's very smart i think that
[40:12] uh and dr stanley i was able to get this information earlier just this afternoon and a flyby about some of the new
[40:17] numbers and being closer to 90 being closer to 73 at first for me hit me as well is that
[40:24] statistically significant as a difference or is it not because numerically it's big but i'm not sure
[40:29] it's that big a difference but really thinking through and listening to not just the analogies and metaphors
[40:35] around swiss cheese and other mitigation strategies but the pass down from high school to middle school and elementary
[40:41] of the virus right now it's it is pretty serious what's happening in austin texas is very serious that is with little kids
[40:46] through 12th grade and what's happening in albuquerque where they're flying patients in because icus are filled in the neighboring states is very serious
[40:53] so if our goal is to keep kids in five days a week to have a piece of paper or cloth over
[40:58] their face for the first 30 days and as we said we're going to look september 13th and reevaluating it
[41:04] i thing makes a lot of sense now again i'm not disagreeing with the administration's recommendation i think that it was thoughtful and it was done
[41:10] under certain terms but my suggestion or my lien would be
[41:16] to start out again in phase one as dr stanley put it with a um
[41:21] a masking requirement from kindergarten 12th grade because i think that the risk reward
[41:26] dynamic for 15 to 18 year olds while i do want to empower them to have their own choice and voice
[41:32] is for the betterment of all kindergarten 12th graders so
[41:38] there's there's definitely if you look at the numbers from the feedback from last week and
[41:43] otherwise there's definitely a stronger support for masking versus not for vaccinations versus not but i do believe that every family should have the right
[41:50] to choose at certain levels but my gut myelin at this point in time is to require k through 12 masking and
[41:56] otherwise i'm fully integrating with the plan and i know we do have another week to see whether that's one shot or two shots or what the
[42:02] numbers look like and i know we've talked about dr stanley you've you've wanted to support bringing more vaccination clinics in we discussed that
[42:10] and one other comment too to the earlier discussion about the rapid testing so we
[42:15] did run the test the nest program this last year right and there was a lot of help from
[42:20] the physicians that are in the room as well as community members and it was a challenge to get the funding to do that strategy right
[42:27] so looking at what the state's offering if we can do that we absolutely will and i know that the incident response team
[42:33] is uh there was a dance if he couldn't see that um is the incident response team instant command team is continuing to follow
[42:39] what's happening closely and dr stan has continued to engage them actively so that'll be obviously something that
[42:44] we'll continue to work on in in finance and otherwise to see if there is resource to do that because the goal
[42:50] again is to reduce or eliminate quarantines that are necessary and testing helps and i believe the strongly
[42:56] that it helped in the spring i believe strongly that when you had to take 20 kids and instead send them all
[43:02] home you were able to do the pooling that we did i think that kept kids in school and can't calculate the hours
[43:07] because there's no statistical way to do that other than guesses but testing helps and i think these mitigation strategies on a short-term
[43:13] basis to begin with makes sense so everyone knows i tend to be more long-winded than money but uh generally
[43:20] i think said the same thing in about 5000 more words so thank you thanks spot julie
[43:29] um so you want overall overall feedback of the plan right yup um so i'm going to go
[43:35] through and just give the feedback of things that because i i know masking is one piece of this but there's a lot of
[43:41] other really good things in this plan that i want to address um one is i really like that um this
[43:48] plan lays out that we're going to look at elements of it in september and october so i really appreciate that i
[43:54] think that's really good the other thing is i think under teaching and learning
[44:00] plc i think the learning from 2020 and applying it here and how that will play forward for all of our students and
[44:06] supporting our students i loved seeing that that that is i love the um the community the professional
[44:13] learning community playbook i thought that was that's just really good really strong for um site leadership so i know that's
[44:20] a lot of the principal work so that's awesome the assessment plan i thought was excellent we kind of barely went over
[44:26] that but i love coming into the gate and really assessing where our kids are and where their needs are
[44:32] just i really think it's really laid out it's very clear i believe that
[44:38] this will be a great playbook for teachers and as we move forward in the school year to make up
[44:44] some stuff that could could be missed from obviously missed over the last
[44:49] year just with the situation um the other thing i loved and that i saw
[44:56] in here was the mental health support and i know jeff jorgensen and his team has been
[45:02] working hard on that everyone who's donated to the ed fund and that support that has been a huge
[45:07] effort to get another fte i love seeing that in the panoramic partnership and the survey that came back as a baseline
[45:14] for that i think that's our mental health support for kids and the whole student support is with our
[45:19] strategic plan but also everyone in this community wants to support that coed has taken a hit there
[45:26] the other thing that i saw in here that i thought was fantastic was student voice and i want to give a shout out to
[45:32] katie sonja rhea and meredith who came up with the plan in terms of how to build social connections i thought that
[45:38] was awesome to see and now my questions um so i want to talk about quarantine first
[45:46] before i go into my thoughts on on masking um so i've i've two things
[45:52] one is in the event of a quarantine what is expected
[45:58] from this teachers like how does that work what does that look like so if you have
[46:04] a student who is quarantined for two weeks is that student getting piped into the classroom or is it treated kind of like
[46:12] pre-coveted that if they were home and out they would have the assignments and do it that way i would love some
[46:18] clarification on or if you are still working through that at this different site levels i know it looks very different i would imagine
[46:24] for elementary than it would for middle and for high school but or do we need to provide more support
[46:30] for teachers um or more support for students
[46:35] so that the teachers can be focused on the kids that are in the classroom like what that split is so that's my first
[46:40] question i was looking over it jody
[46:47] i was going to look at jody as well to see if i should answer
[46:54] each building is working with leadership teams on quarantine plans within their buildings and are definitely working to
[47:00] provide opportunities for students to continue the learning while they're at home
[47:06] with that limited stress on the classroom of students that are still engaging in the learning
[47:12] but i would say at this point that teams are still in process and determining what those best plans will be and also
[47:17] taking the learning from last year and what worked with buildings and with teams
[47:25] okay that's helpful i think i think from a feedback standpoint i want to make sure that we're being
[47:30] consistent so a student at normandale and a student at countryside should get similar support whatever that looks like
[47:37] i know that you know there are so many different factors that went into last year and um
[47:43] delivering delivering content and for different reasons some teachers
[47:50] were able to bring their kids in and that could there's a multitude of reasons that that could have happened um but i think the consistency piece
[47:56] for students teachers and our community so everyone just knows this is what it looks like i think is super important so that's
[48:03] great um that you guys are working through that um the other thing with quarantine so
[48:09] i i think this the quarantine protocol chart that was put together was really
[48:14] good i would like to go a little bit more in because
[48:20] there are some things that are missing so for example um if a student
[48:26] doesn't have coveted symptoms but has an exposure what does that look like is that a rapid test in the nurse's
[48:32] office if they were masked they wouldn't have to quarantine but i i
[48:38] think there's just a little bit more to explaining
[48:45] the different scenarios to give more guard rails for our health services staff
[48:50] and the community and this again goes to consistency too right and what can we do
[48:56] as a district to support that so that everybody kind of knows this is this is the deal um
[49:04] i would love to see a little bit more um just because i looked on here and it's you
[49:09] know what if somebody tested for kovid or had covered three months ago right and they're at 100 days
[49:15] out and they're still testing positive do we give any is that a one-on-one case basis so that
[49:21] kind of stuff and i think we need to work through i'm not the expert on that at all but i just know that this is the
[49:27] source of stress for families and for staff and for students for the board for the
[49:32] administrators so i just want to make sure we get this right and we have a really good um really really strong
[49:37] guard rails up so whatever we need to do there um i think for masking um you know
[49:46] looking at the number the original number of looking at 90 of students at
[49:51] the high school being vaccine which is originally what this was based on was to me
[49:56] like wow that is a very high number for a threshold that
[50:02] you could very i very well could see how you would pull mass because we have we have done what we needed to do
[50:09] to really bring down the thread of covid that number going down and not being at
[50:16] that number gives me a moment to pause i think there's a little bit more there's more information that i
[50:22] need before i can make a informed decision one of them is being what is mshl doing what is the minnesota state
[50:29] high school league doing you know they make their own policy decisions
[50:34] the board does not make those decisions so how does that impact you know i don't
[50:40] know what our neighboring schools do that we're going to be playing basketball football all those guys are doing in
[50:46] especially the fall sports looking at phase one i think that actually impacts things um
[50:54] so i don't know what the mshl plans are but that would be something i think we
[50:59] should consider so
[51:05] i can just say right now that um troy stein he was he was in a meeting for minnesota high school sports league
[51:11] last week and they do not have key information for us yet yeah okay
[51:16] and i think that that plays into it we don't know so um and i'm looking over it andy i know
[51:22] i would love to hear your thoughts on it you're the one in the building um but
[51:28] i think i think reality of um high school students wearing the mask
[51:35] and complying is also a challenge especially with vaccination when they've been told
[51:40] vaccination you know if you're vaccinated you have to wear a mask so i think there's going to be at
[51:45] least i think it would be hard to implement that rule and then is it
[51:51] is it worth it to do it then if we have kids that aren't following the rule um i know it's i know it's it's
[51:58] it's there's no um clear path but i would love to hear andy thoughts on
[52:04] come on up andy yeah it's like the price is right i mean you're in the school with the kids and
[52:10] what are your thoughts on this dr stanley jerillenberg members of the
[52:15] board director green thanks for the invitation to come forward um i think when we
[52:20] initially were having this conversation about the high school it was because we i think the incentive was you know if
[52:27] our kids are getting vaccinated in mass when we were looking at the clinic that we did last year that was very popular
[52:34] and and well received and our our kids really wanted to have that opportunity because they were seeing
[52:40] uh the opportunity to avoid quarantine if they had a close contact and they wanted to stay on their sports teams and
[52:45] things like that so when we were seeing those numbers really high i think we were having discussions about
[52:51] the high schools that we wanted to have that carrot for them by doing the right thing and and following those guidelines
[52:57] to be able to get vaccinated they have the opportunity and obviously high school students
[53:02] have the eligibility and the opportunity to get vaccinated where elementary students do not
[53:08] i want to clarify the 73 percent that number that came out today that is the number of students that are fully
[53:14] vaccinated at edina high school of our student population right now i don't have the number of the partial but the
[53:21] 73 percent is fully vaccinated so and we are offering a clinic uh
[53:27] vaccine clinic again on the 26th and get connected day whatever the decision is tonight and i i
[53:32] i want to say our kids um at eden high school are amazing if we tell them that we have a mask mandate they'll do it
[53:39] they'll do it they want to be happy with it but they'll do it but i also think that it's
[53:45] important that we incentivize our students to keep going forward to have the opportunities to have more
[53:50] freedom more sense of normalcy in school have the opportunities to go to those big sporting events and things like that
[53:56] and in mass and so any way we can try to incentivize that whether that's through vaccination or masking or whatever that
[54:01] might be i'm all in favor of doing that thank you that's super helpful
[54:07] so thanks thanks thank you helen
[54:15] well first i want to fully appreciate the work that's gone into this plan and i want to
[54:23] support the efforts to get our children back into the school five days a week
[54:30] this is something that our district has embraced and i want to do everything that i can as a board member to make
[54:37] sure that our kids are in school five days a week by providing a healthy
[54:44] learning environment i agree with the district
[54:49] supporting the model of learning that does not have the teachers teaching both in class and online
[54:55] i fully appreciate the improvements in ventilation including the hepa filters in all classrooms
[55:01] and the focus on using data not only in the creation of a dashboard that monitors covid prevalence in our schools
[55:08] but that will also give us
[55:13] assessments early in the fall so that we know where our resources need to be spent and that we can
[55:20] identify all students and their needs
[55:27] the minnesota department of health the center of disease control in the american academy of pediatrics and the
[55:33] minnesota medical association have all recommended getting our students
[55:38] back in classroom full-time they also recommend requiring that everyone
[55:44] in k-12 wear masks
[55:50] my role and my goal as a board member is to do all i can to ensure our students both short and long-term well-being in
[55:57] the short term that means providing an environment that is as safe as possible
[56:02] using all measures are the recommended measures to mitigate the sped spread of coven 19
[56:09] in the long term in addition to preserving our students and staff's health means getting them back in the
[56:14] classroom so that their in-person education can resume unimpeded
[56:20] therefore i would like to see this document changed to require masks on all k-12 students
[56:27] and all staff so that's the answer to your first
[56:33] question erica the next is my questions
[56:41] so we are aware of the importance of our teachers and they truly are our front line workers
[56:48] i'm concerned about their health and our ability to keep our schools open so i'm wondering
[56:56] if the district has considered requiring staff to either be vaccinated or be tested for covid once a week
[57:07] thanks for that question i was on a webinar with the commissioner of
[57:13] education and that question was posed to her related to the requirement of vaccinations and what she explained is
[57:19] because the vaccines have not been formally approved by the fda they are not at the
[57:28] state level approving it like all like the other immunities are requiring it like the other immunizations that we
[57:34] have for students to be um to be vaccinated i do realize that there
[57:39] are other industries that have moved in that direction and even some higher ed
[57:44] um schools in that direction that is not something that we have discussed for
[57:50] requiring teachers to be vaccinated to move forward
[57:57] as far as the testing we are looking into testing we are working with minnesota
[58:03] department of education um right now what
[58:08] what they've put on the table is is similar to what it was last spring where it was the option to be tested every
[58:15] other week we have not talked about additional testing or the requirement of testing
[58:22] because we need to have a way to monitor whether or not a person was vaccinated
[58:28] and at this point they would have to declare that they are not vaccinated in order
[58:33] for us to move forward with that i'm not saying that would be completely off the table it would definitely be some work
[58:39] that we'd have to do to look at okay appreciate that question yeah thank you for that answer um
[58:46] i would be interested in in my question did not
[58:51] um suggest that i i would require all teachers to be vaccinated but that there
[58:56] would be an option for either being vaccinated or being tested once a
[59:02] week and i would propose that the district look into that in order
[59:07] both for the health of our community and the health of our learning environments
[59:12] but also so that we can make sure that we are able to keep our schools open
[59:20] so um so that would be my one of my other questions my
[59:26] i've always been interested in ventilation and i wanted to hear whether
[59:31] or not um and i've heard that our we have hepa filters in our classrooms but i'm wondering if
[59:38] you could tell me if they are in all rooms for example band rooms or other
[59:45] rooms where students are gathering cafeterias for example
[59:56] i don't know if i can answer all those questions but when i talked to eric
[1:00:02] hamilton about it he had indicated that they were in all classrooms and in the nursing offices i
[1:00:09] don't know if any of our principals are able to
[1:00:23] are they in the cafeteria do we know if they're in cafeteria i'm thinking about where students are
[1:00:30] potentially going to be gathering or and especially gathering without their masks on
[1:00:39] i don't i don't know if they're in the cafeteria but we do have i mean the cafeteria is
[1:00:45] well ventilated through our building ventilation system so i think the idea of hepa filters is to put them into
[1:00:52] the classrooms where students are more concentrated in terms of space i don't know karen if you want to add to that
[1:00:58] and really fast for people that aren't here in the room dr dalqvist of creek valley verified that the hippo filters
[1:01:05] are in all regular classrooms and specialist rooms i just wanted to make sure that people watching online could hear and so
[1:01:12] and band and choir rooms are regular classrooms okay super so and that that really has been a great
[1:01:19] improvement and i know that the district has been working on improving their
[1:01:26] air circulation and other in our all of our facilities
[1:01:33] but speaking of that and i'm just wondering if you could describe or have a elementary school
[1:01:41] principle describe the differences between lunch
[1:01:47] last year and what is being proposed in this document this year
[1:02:01] good evening all karen bergman principal at countryside superintendent stanley and board chair
[1:02:07] allen berg it's nice to be here with you um we actually are randy and i have been
[1:02:12] talking about this quite a bit over the last couple of days just knowing that there's kind of layers of decision
[1:02:17] making that were that we're handling right now some of the discussions that you're
[1:02:23] having tonight will guide us in what are those next questions and answers we're going to be providing
[1:02:28] lunchroom how kids eat where kids eat is one of those that we actually as an elementary
[1:02:35] principal team struggled with quite a bit last year a piece to that comes from the fact that
[1:02:41] each one of our buildings is situated in a little bit different way with our lunchroom
[1:02:48] how many kids can it comfortably fit in what would be a typical time
[1:02:54] how do we schedule that lunchroom what is the classroom situation like
[1:03:00] when we first started doing planning a year ago we were going to be eating in the classrooms and
[1:03:06] i will tell you that our teachers were in full-on panic about that we were we were asking them to be in
[1:03:12] classrooms with up to well in my building 31 students in in some of those
[1:03:17] rooms and we're asking them to supervise students with all of those masks off and they're eating and the room
[1:03:24] is a regular size classroom in their minds and really when you think
[1:03:29] about it the opportunity to use a larger space one that is incredibly well ventilated as is
[1:03:37] our cafeterias and being able to assign student spaces
[1:03:44] places where they would be eating and also being able to spread them out in a considerably larger place
[1:03:51] those kinds of things are the are the decisions or the different questions that we were asking
[1:03:57] each other as far as what it what is your building schedule allow
[1:04:03] at countryside i can tell you that we scheduled our our students for lunch in
[1:04:08] the cafeteria we were able to spread out lunches in a way that i had no more than one great
[1:04:15] level of students in that in that space they were further apart they were
[1:04:20] probably about three or four times further apart than they would be if they were sitting in their classrooms
[1:04:26] this far away from somebody as they were eating those kinds of considerations and our
[1:04:32] ability to have staff in there supporting them not going through the lunch line as
[1:04:39] their plate is being fixed but serving them in the what do they call those
[1:04:46] clam shell containers or in a as a as a bag option those kinds of things allowed us to
[1:04:53] cut down on the possibilities of kids being up and about and and in you know
[1:04:58] different configurations in that cafeteria setting so those were some of the conversations
[1:05:05] that we had in each building and again um it it kind of depended too on what
[1:05:11] was your your specific building's configuration at concord we have five classrooms um in
[1:05:19] each one of those grade level teams their scheduling of their putting students into the cafeteria
[1:05:26] looked different than it did at countryside where i had three sections of each grade level
[1:05:31] during each time so were like i said it's all coming in layers once we know and have the direction uh
[1:05:39] from you on some of those bigger decisions then those next layers will be talked about
[1:05:45] in a way of uh where were we last year and what did that look like and
[1:05:51] how has that particular part of the day changed and how will we move forward moving
[1:05:56] in in that part of the decision from there i i can tell you that our our teachers
[1:06:04] and our staff felt very comfortable knowing that we had that option of using that larger space especially when we
[1:06:11] knew kids would be without a mask for that short period of time does that answer your question yeah it
[1:06:17] really does thank you um i think that that is we have received letters about lunch
[1:06:25] and lunch is that one time when you're in a school building
[1:06:30] without your mask on and um and to
[1:06:35] to be in a room where there are there is mixing of cohorts so you you
[1:06:44] start saying you know what what are those mitigation levels or layers and so already
[1:06:52] you you start going to are we doing cohorting are we
[1:06:57] keeping our masks on and i i just am
[1:07:03] watching the district closely on how they're proposing to manage those types of things i
[1:07:11] personally i've always wondered why we haven't decided to go outside for
[1:07:16] lunch so we do have some classes that will that will do that i know what highlands they're
[1:07:22] they're outside every day all day all day yeah one one of the things too that is a
[1:07:29] consideration is what you know now that we've had kids in this space
[1:07:34] how are we able to um provide cleaning protocols to make sure that we've done
[1:07:40] our very best to make sure that that next group that comes in or that next child who sits at that that place
[1:07:47] is safe while they're there our ability to do that in a more consistent way and to have staff
[1:07:55] concentrated in that lunchroom was really to our benefit in many cases
[1:08:00] in a classroom having our custodial staff or our paraprofessional staff moving from one classroom to the next
[1:08:08] and oh by the way could you guys just hold those kids outside for 10 more minutes because our cleaning schedule got
[1:08:13] got behind and you know all of those all of those um kind of logistics to the day
[1:08:19] um allowed us in that lunchroom a little bit more ability to
[1:08:24] confirm that those things that we know needed to happen were truly happening okay well thank you um
[1:08:31] so in so as i'm processing all of this and i'm watching the head shaking of the um
[1:08:38] specialist what i um what i just wanted to reiterate is that i do think that
[1:08:46] our schools should encourage eating outside whenever possible and make it be like
[1:08:53] the default is if if it can't happen then it's inside that would be my
[1:08:58] recommendation and that's all that i have thank you um before you leave could you clarify
[1:09:03] will students have assigned seating at lunch um yes we did um will they next year have
[1:09:10] assigned seating that's one of the things across all schools yep if um if there were to
[1:09:17] be a positive case or an exposure of some kind it was easy enough for us to go back to the
[1:09:23] classroom teacher and say okay tell me where this student was sitting and you know then who is who is in close
[1:09:30] proximity um one of the other things that that a number of the buildings had done was to
[1:09:37] we've got benches on both sides of the lunch tables we basically put up the benches
[1:09:42] on the one side and everybody from your class faced faced one way and then we had spots
[1:09:49] where where kids could sit so that we were maintaining that distance between them and we were
[1:09:55] maintaining the different distance between where this grow of tables were
[1:10:01] compared to that next row so it it rather than being in the classroom and being so close in proximity we had
[1:10:08] that that ability to kind of measure out how far can we get these kiddos apart and um
[1:10:14] i you might not know the answer to this but at south view and valley view will they have assigned seating i don't
[1:10:20] execute that if you would like us to execute that okay
[1:10:26] i personally would because i think that if you're going to ask students to mask all day
[1:10:32] and then have them mingle all through lunch and not to be able to contact trace it
[1:10:37] just increases the risk of having to send home 75 kids because we
[1:10:44] don't know who they had lunch next grace
[1:10:57] we can get that um out so or that maybe that's something that's looked into after 30 days but that that would be my
[1:11:03] preference erica can i just can i interject on that sorry did i scare you
[1:11:10] just the voice up here um uh the secondary and i think that was probably dr anderson that i heard
[1:11:16] talking but i thought that we at the secondary that we were using the qr code so that the
[1:11:22] kids could scan where they're sitting as opposed to doing a science meeting is that not the case valley view had
[1:11:28] assigned seating i'm not sure about south view but i know valley of you had assigned seating
[1:11:35] okay well i guess it would be a question would be what and at the high school what i thought the high school was qr
[1:11:41] codes too so i appreciate the question this is an example of what principal bergman was talking about in terms of
[1:11:48] the layers that we have to unpack with each decision that we make so last year the high school in southie
[1:11:53] made the decision to do qr codes and after one week we felt like oh this is promising using technology to
[1:12:01] to set us up for effective contact tracing what we found at the end of two weeks however was that
[1:12:07] a it was a management challenge not every child was an expert at accurately
[1:12:12] logging the information per the qr code two it was a management challenge because devices are not allowed build a
[1:12:18] bell at the middle level for example and this led to blurring of the lines of of clarity for kids so devices were out
[1:12:26] longer than they should have been and upon examining those spreadsheets
[1:12:31] not the information we couldn't always rely on how seriously kids took the the
[1:12:37] care and responding to those questions and so we found that just in contact racing it was just as effective if not
[1:12:43] more so to interview the kids at the table who were sitting with as a part of our contact racing while that sounds
[1:12:50] more labor intensive than a technology accelerant like qr codes and actually in practice was just as if not more
[1:12:56] effective so the high school went away from qr codes and just went to contact racing kind of in a
[1:13:03] more labor-intensive way and had we known that the high school had made that decision earlier we probably would have made the same decision
[1:13:09] so balancing that with the social emotional needs of when kids can talk to each other at lunch
[1:13:15] pre-slugging a seating chart led to lots of dissatisfaction from families and
[1:13:21] students if i was seated in a place where i didn't know my colleagues at the table
[1:13:28] and this had quite a profound effect i mean community conversations were going on about this very thing so we'd want to
[1:13:33] take really great care on what we would do for a seating chart and get settled into that it would be
[1:13:38] developed in the first two weeks how we would do that but we can execute that but we're confident we can contact trace
[1:13:45] lunchrooms especially since we're using bigger spaces for lunchrooms again like last year so that's not different from
[1:13:51] last year because it is a safer way to make it more likely to keep kids in
[1:13:57] school i think it's worthwhile to have a discussion about
[1:14:03] i mean i've even thought of things that it's an opt-in for families that want their kids
[1:14:08] seated in an area you can eat outside or come into this so i i think that we need to have further
[1:14:14] discussion on that point you know that is something that we can definitely look at as a matter of fact
[1:14:20] all principles are coming together tomorrow afternoon so we can look at that and
[1:14:25] get into the details and then update that information in preparation for tuesday
[1:14:31] thank you um owen sure
[1:14:36] thank you erica like this format um can you all hear me well
[1:14:42] yes thank you okay good good good uh the first thing i'd like to say is i
[1:14:48] am excited that uh we've got hepa filters uh throughout the district that's going to
[1:14:56] serve the kids health well the teachers health well and increase community confidence
[1:15:02] in our mitigation plans the second thing is i'm excited that
[1:15:08] we've got fast bridge tests coming up in september
[1:15:13] right away to get on top of our literacy assessment the next is in the same vein i am very
[1:15:20] excited that we've got map testing uh scheduled for the fall and so put the
[1:15:25] dipstick in find out where the kids are i hope we can do that in the spring too so um i'm real excited about that
[1:15:32] development the thing that i'm most excited about far and away is the fact that we've got
[1:15:37] our kids coming back five days a week fully uh face-to-face um
[1:15:44] that to put everything in perspective that will matter so much emotionally and
[1:15:50] pedagogically for our kids and i i think that's something to celebrate
[1:15:55] so i really want to emphasize that then continuing on with this i'm glad
[1:16:01] that we have the high school in um
[1:16:06] uh masking optional and let the families decide what the students decide and as dr beaton just
[1:16:13] mentioned a few moments ago that it reinforces vaccination and it rewards vaccination on provacs
[1:16:21] so i'm excited about that you can probably infer that
[1:16:29] i wish that we had masking optional for k through
[1:16:35] eight i think that that promotes more of a natural school environment
[1:16:41] it promotes more of a natural emotional development for the kids
[1:16:50] so i that's why i'm in favor of making it optional and letting the families
[1:16:56] make that risk management assessment decision themselves
[1:17:02] transmission rates have been low for the kids a lot of the adults are are vaccinated
[1:17:09] the teachers the high vaccination rate among the teachers many local school districts are doing
[1:17:15] going optional k through 12. the wall street journal had an article yesterday
[1:17:21] talking about the low hospitalization rates for kids across the country it's 250
[1:17:27] for covet and many of them covet is a comorbidity there's other
[1:17:32] issues involved as well so and beyond that the evidence of masking is not real strong the cdc fauci has
[1:17:40] reversed himself foster home seems to be equivocating on uh cloth masks and bandanas and so
[1:17:48] um the science behind it doesn't really seem real strong
[1:17:53] but so since we have decided as as a district here that we will be masking or
[1:18:01] option a mandatory masking from k through uh eight in that context i'm very glad that we
[1:18:09] have clear face shields for some of the sensitive
[1:18:15] phonemic awareness training for some of the language classes i think that's fantastic uh we
[1:18:21] have a high vaccination rate among the teachers um
[1:18:27] i'm grateful that we are going to be checking in on this at a regular
[1:18:33] interval on a one-month interval and we're going to see what the vaccination rates are like what the
[1:18:40] transmission rates are like what the hospitalization rates are like like and we're going to be meeting in about a
[1:18:45] month to confer about this again so i'm glad that we are not setting this in stone for the rest
[1:18:51] of the fall but we're going to be sensitive to it um i like the fact that we're relaxing
[1:18:57] quarantining standards um it it was onerous on many of the families many of the students last year
[1:19:03] so i'm very glad to see uh that we're moving in that direction
[1:19:09] and i i'm glad that we have a backup for families that may not feel comfortable
[1:19:15] say with um full face with man optional masking in high school
[1:19:22] and that we have our virtual academy that can be a fallback for those families
[1:19:27] so those are my thoughts um and i don't have any questions at this point
[1:19:32] thank you owen janey yeah although the nice thing about going last is um
[1:19:39] you guys actually talked about a couple of things that i was going to ask questions about so thank you um i am
[1:19:44] going to just start with a couple points on the plan that i want to say i more than appreciate all the work that went into this it's very clear the amount of
[1:19:52] time and effort that was put into this and the priority being getting our kids back in school five days a week and
[1:19:58] keeping them there in the classroom so i appreciate that i appreciate the phased approach and as
[1:20:03] matt alluded to that there's really no finality in any decision and that these will be re will be reassessed at regular
[1:20:11] intervals and so i appreciate that i'm going to echo what julie said that i think they're
[1:20:16] i appreciate the intentionality that we have laid out behind assessing what unfinished learning our students have
[1:20:22] and i really look forward to getting that piece started and um
[1:20:27] really working on that i'm sorry there's a barking dog the next piece would be the social
[1:20:33] emotional learning piece that was laid out i think putting together strategies for
[1:20:38] engagement and connectedness for our students is a huge part of getting everybody back and everybody
[1:20:44] in class and in person learning and i very much appreciate that and i look forward to hearing more about how
[1:20:52] about what that looks like at the high school as these kids really haven't had any sort of central
[1:20:59] connectedness point give me one second i'm just going to open the door and let the dog out
[1:21:11] i feel like we're like this close to landing
[1:21:18] i'm really sorry about that um at the exact moment they decided to
[1:21:24] start parking um i would uh like to say and i know it's
[1:21:29] been mentioned before i would like to see how we can utilize testing as a
[1:21:34] bigger piece of the foundation to this plan i know that testing has been mentioned many times in
[1:21:41] all of the recommendations from the cdc and the mdh as being a part of our mitigation strategies and knowing
[1:21:47] that we have some experience where other schools don't and i'm not recommending bringing
[1:21:52] back test the nest with pool testing so i want people to hear that loud and clear but the rapid testing and what
[1:21:58] that can bring to decisions within our school and opportunities for our students to
[1:22:04] continue their learning in school i see great benefit in that so i would really like to have us look into
[1:22:11] beefing that part of the plant up and having it be a stronger part of the foundation of the plan
[1:22:16] um so i guess that kind of leads to um my
[1:22:22] feelings on unmasking hang on now i'm gonna close the window because people decided to talk
[1:22:29] um i've heard what everybody has said at um about the high school and i
[1:22:36] 100 have to keep reminding myself that my priority is having kids in the classroom learning as much as
[1:22:43] possible and eliminating disruptions to their time in the classroom
[1:22:48] that being said i i haven't heard clear enough evidence
[1:22:55] to support an optional masking role i think as a school board member i don't have a
[1:23:03] public health background i don't have a medical background therefore my decisions need to really be based on what i hear
[1:23:10] from those people whose job it is to know this stuff i'm not i i can't look at opinion pieces i have
[1:23:18] to look at what science tells us and what medical studies tell us and those recommendations are clear right now but
[1:23:24] it's k-12 and so i am requesting as i think a couple of the board members have
[1:23:31] that we re-evaluate that not because i want our kids to wear masks i want to say that loud and clear i that is not
[1:23:38] something that would make me happy it doesn't make me happy to wear a mask it doesn't make any of us happy to wear a mask but if that at the end of the day
[1:23:45] keeps the most number of kids in school for the longest amount of time without disruption
[1:23:51] that to me seems like a simple step that we can take and i know our students that's their primary goal is to be in
[1:23:57] school that's their primary goal to not have to miss football games or things like that because of
[1:24:02] exposures or quarantine so i will reiterate my request that that be looked at again is the high school masking
[1:24:10] mandate versus a optional guideline did you have any questions janie
[1:24:17] you know what i um i didn't i will say i had asked a question before about contact tracing
[1:24:23] and i'll circle back and say one of the things i was running especially for our elementary and our middle schoolers who
[1:24:29] are going to be wearing masks if a positive case is identified and say my
[1:24:34] son ends up being a close contact even though he was masked and the child with
[1:24:39] coped was masked i wanted to make sure that we were going to be notifying those contacts even though we weren't going to be quarantining them and i have been
[1:24:46] assured stacey had told me that yes we would be notifying families if they need to take precautions if they need to be
[1:24:51] watching their kids for symptoms or if they have a vulnerable adult in their household too so i did want to mention
[1:24:56] that in case somebody else had that same question but that all of my other questions have been answered so thank you thank you
[1:25:03] you actually don't get to go last i get to go last so just uh just so you know i forgot about that
[1:25:10] erica you forgot about
[1:25:16] so um so again luckily every a lot of people have
[1:25:22] said um things that i was concerned about overall i think the plan is
[1:25:29] very solid i think it's detail-oriented i
[1:25:34] won't go into all the things that i appreciate but really quickly i do appreciate the focus on the testing
[1:25:40] and trying to assess where our students are from an academic perspective i think that's crucial
[1:25:49] i um i guess i'll just launch into from a
[1:25:54] masking perspective i fully support the k through eight i um
[1:25:59] i'm struggling with the high school it's not a matter of uh i
[1:26:05] clearly take covet very seriously i'm struggling with the balance between
[1:26:12] the real public health medical
[1:26:18] benefits of masking with the real mental health issues that are going on at our
[1:26:24] secondary level and the need our students have to have a feeling of normalcy in their life
[1:26:33] i look at our vaccination rates in secondary i look at the coveted rates in our community um
[1:26:40] i personally would rather err on the side at this point of
[1:26:46] knowing i mean all of this could change in two days of having masking at the high school be optional because
[1:26:55] i think that if we see that there are outbreaks or something is
[1:27:00] causing infection students in high school are causing infections to students in the other
[1:27:08] school system to me that's an immediate sign that we need to mask up k to 12 or e to 12.
[1:27:16] um but for me the benefit that we give to these students to even starting out the
[1:27:22] year um quote unquote normal i think is huge
[1:27:28] um again knowing that this is this could change
[1:27:34] at any moment if we see the need to change it i think there's also part of it is the reality of the life of
[1:27:41] a high school student that we can mask them all day at high school they don't mask on their
[1:27:47] own they go and do things on their own they play sports um
[1:27:52] i just this this one i'm just i'll just be honest i'm really struggling with um
[1:27:59] i would like to know how successful our vaccine clinics are that we have at the high school i don't know if there's
[1:28:06] if we have some sort of incentive to back that if we get to a certain threshold at the high school that means that we
[1:28:12] don't have to have masks i don't i don't know
[1:28:18] i just again i i struggle and again no one predicted there would be the delta variant this
[1:28:24] last spring so i know things have changed i just struggle with the fact that
[1:28:29] these kids have done everything that we've asked of them all of these students have done everything we've asked of them they're
[1:28:34] getting the brunt of this horrible situation that they're in and
[1:28:40] um if we could give them uh some side sign of normalcy um
[1:28:46] i'm for that knowing that we might have to switch it at some point
[1:28:52] from a question perspective my main questions which i appreciate the fact ellen asked a couple of them and some
[1:28:58] other people did as well was my other big concern was lunch
[1:29:04] and so that was to me the big hole in the plan for me was
[1:29:11] lunch at the primary level and the middle school level
[1:29:17] and then i agree that i would like to see if there's some way that we can utilize rapid testing
[1:29:25] um i don't know if it's some sort of community partnership but i um i really believe in the health equity
[1:29:31] aspect of it but also the ability for us to not send kids home if they have seasonal
[1:29:38] allergies and we're concerned that they have coveted um so i would like us to look into that
[1:29:43] those are my i think those are those are all of my points
[1:29:49] um yes erica can i ask a follow-up question
[1:29:54] to that yes so i echo a lot of what you said but here's
[1:30:00] where i got hooked up and where i'm struggling and maybe i need clarification with it so at the high
[1:30:07] schools if mary decides not to wear a mask and mary like
[1:30:13] you said is a high school student and is out and about and we can't control
[1:30:19] you know what exposure mary might have and say she comes she contracts cobia if
[1:30:26] she's sitting next to johnny who is wearing a mask who opted to wear a mask and
[1:30:32] she is positive but johnny has decided to wear a mask
[1:30:37] then does johnny have to be quarantined right so it's her choice that's for the optional piece that i'm struggling right
[1:30:44] so so if johnny's not vaccinated because he has an immunocompromised
[1:30:52] system he can't be vaccinated how is that optional for him to then
[1:30:58] have to miss school so that am i missing something in the decision tree that that's
[1:31:04] not how it would work because that's i hear exactly what you're saying but i'm struggling with this piece of it
[1:31:09] from an for people that are immunocompromised or just people that have chosen not to vaccinate in general
[1:31:17] because the way i read the way i read the that was actually the
[1:31:22] i i can't necessarily speak to the decision tree from the perspective of people that are immunocompromised but
[1:31:28] from my perspective that was actually the plus of the decision tree was that there are so
[1:31:34] many students at the high school that are vaccinated that if you are vaccinated you don't have to
[1:31:40] quarantine so even if susie comes to school and has and doesn't isn't
[1:31:45] vaccinated and doesn't wear a mask if if she sits next to stanley who is vaccinated he doesn't
[1:31:53] have to quarantine and so if we're 73
[1:31:59] vaccinated that leaves a population of 20 some percent of students
[1:32:05] and i struggle what i struggle with is that is how do we
[1:32:10] how do we err on the side of the 75 of students that are doing everything we've asked them to do
[1:32:16] and then we have absolutely you know yeah i absolutely agree with you absolutely but i i
[1:32:24] i don't know enough about the decision tree and maybe someone here if there are students that are immunocompromised and they can't get
[1:32:31] vaccinated then i'm sure you're right janie that there are situations where
[1:32:36] if they can't get vaccinated they're wearing a mask but susie isn't wearing a mask that student i assume would have to
[1:32:43] quarantine
[1:32:49] what yeah i should get tattooed on my body i know it's so well now hi so
[1:32:57] at this time the current decision tree that is out from the minnesota department of health from may of this year um doesn't discriminate between
[1:33:04] immuno-compromised or whatever it's vaccinated unvaccinated bottom line um
[1:33:10] and so that's that's where we're at the decision yeah yep thank you yeah yeah
[1:33:16] thank you one more comment yeah absolutely just one more thought
[1:33:22] again i'm playing a doctor on tv but the the one issue that didn't come up at all
[1:33:28] from medical perspective that does worry me that i was waiting to see if anybody raised is
[1:33:34] there is real evidence now that people that are vaccinated are still able to carry and transmit the virus and that's
[1:33:39] new with the delta virus and that hasn't been mentioned tonight so i thought that'd be remiss to not comment on it so
[1:33:45] one of the questions is when you look at an issue and i respect what principal beaton said that if the students are
[1:33:51] asked to do it they'll do it and and i love reward systems that reward people i mean otherwise it's a joke right so if
[1:33:58] we're incentivizing students to get vaccinated they have more freedom and choice we want to follow through with that but the landscape keeps changing
[1:34:05] which is why i think it's smart to do a 30-day phase one and when things are more dangerous than
[1:34:10] not it's better to be more restrictive than not in my personal opinion and just i wanted to raise the idea that
[1:34:17] somebody can be carrying the virus be asymptomatic have gotten vaccinated not
[1:34:23] get to moderate or severe or even critical status and still transmit to others regardless of masking or
[1:34:29] compromising compromise status so because things are moving so much i'd
[1:34:35] much rather see us get a little more data get another month out know what's happening in the high school see what the rates are get the kids in
[1:34:41] five days a week not have the over complicated decision trees and then from there we alleviate some of the stress
[1:34:47] and burden that gets normalcy back but just just wanted to mention that
[1:34:52] factor about the transmissibility even if you're fully vaccinated which does protect you but not others i think that
[1:34:58] is i know we're all processing a lot in real time but that's um that that's a serious factor to consider
[1:35:09] you know i was just going to note that it to me it seems the consensus is k-12 masking
[1:35:14] but that's what the majority of the board is is stating tonight
[1:35:22] stated i would say it's a majority not a consensus so a majority okay a majority
[1:35:33] can i make two comments um one is one thing that we didn't um
[1:35:39] address that and i this is out of my um expertise very far out but the recommendations
[1:35:47] from mdh and cdc and aap right is
[1:35:52] it feels like that was a blanket recommendation for the country right and so i i'm trying to get my head around
[1:35:59] locally what those numbers are and what those thresholds are i don't have the
[1:36:04] answer to that but like that would be something i think we look at we really looked at all that data last year that
[1:36:10] drove a lot of our decision making i think that's the piece that i'm struggling with because
[1:36:16] when you talk about a vaccination rate when you talk about
[1:36:22] our case count right now um in edina in our schools that's where
[1:36:27] i think i'm trying to get my head around so i don't know if there's more information out there in terms of the recommendations on where those
[1:36:34] thresholds are because to me i i think if we are going to incentivize
[1:36:40] which principal beaten talked about if we're going to look ahead if we hit 80 what does that mean you know and the
[1:36:47] state could come out and say if this gets approval that schools are going to have to mandate
[1:36:52] vaccinations that could come out that is not a school board decision just it is not a school board decision it is
[1:36:58] a decision by the state of minnesota for public health and then that would actually
[1:37:04] change the landscape quite um quite much um so i wanted to say that if there was
[1:37:09] any kind of um more information about that i would be interested in and then the second piece too is um i just want
[1:37:15] to say i this has been a really really um tough year and a half to be on the board
[1:37:21] um i didn't mean to get emotional but um
[1:37:26] we are all working our hardest i just want to say that because um
[1:37:33] we have community members we hear from everyone we are listening we are working really hard i don't know why i'm getting
[1:37:39] so emotional probably because i'm dropping my kid off in college in a couple days but
[1:37:44] anyway i just wanted to say that because um i'm thrilled we have a new superintendent this report is fantastic
[1:37:51] it's a fantastic plan we're going to get our kids back so i just wanted to say that did not
[1:37:56] mean for that to happen but that's going to go on youtube now probably
[1:38:03] erica can i talk for a sec sure absolutely um first off i want to
[1:38:08] commend julie for talking about the fact that two things one is
[1:38:15] if the state and mdh mandates that we go to masking then we would have to go to masking the state
[1:38:21] uh is authoritative in that context and the second thing i want to affirm
[1:38:27] with julie said is she was deliberating we were thinking about how
[1:38:33] this um how we as a board make the decision
[1:38:39] about whether to mask or not to mask whether to go full face to face or not that is our decision and i guess i'm
[1:38:46] making a distinction uh with the cdc because i don't think we've actually
[1:38:52] said this the cdc is an advisory council of the federal government and it is
[1:38:58] composed of non-elected officials who do not have binding authority on what we
[1:39:04] do so that really makes the decision sit among the eight of us and i include
[1:39:11] dr stanley in that uh so just for a point of discussion that the the bloc does stop with us and
[1:39:18] so as we go forward with these discussions into the fall um i i want us to continue to deliberate
[1:39:25] us for to think about it uh us to take into account uh things like what um
[1:39:32] dr beaton said about rewarding the students for getting the vats
[1:39:38] and we are the decision makers not the cdc so uh julie i commend you for a number of your
[1:39:45] comments which were deliberative in nature and we make the decisions so just a point of discussion erica thank
[1:39:52] you um thank you owen just to wrap up the discussion um
[1:39:58] as lenny said it sounded like a majority of board members were interested in masking e to 12 um
[1:40:07] that we're interested in looking at lunchtime more deliberatively uh not that you haven't looked been
[1:40:12] looking at the edit deliberatively that was the wrong word that i used um yeah thank you specificity i appreciate
[1:40:19] that um ellen was interested in vaccine vaccines and testing for staff if
[1:40:25] there's any opportunity there and multiple board members had mentioned um are there any ways that we can utilize
[1:40:31] testing for students as um one of our mitigation strategies
[1:40:38] um i think that's a wrap up of well thank you for that i did capture
[1:40:45] all of that information and you know what i want to say is again it is
[1:40:51] it is emotional right it i mean we are talking about i talked to someone the other day and i
[1:40:58] said you know this is 9 000 students um that i feel like i hold on my shoulders
[1:41:05] to make sure that we keep them safe plus 1200 staff members hope i didn't hire some extras in there
[1:41:11] if it isn't 1200 and so i really i appreciate just the thoughtful deliberation again i
[1:41:18] appreciate all of the comments from our community members and the many many many email
[1:41:25] that i have received that the board has received over the past couple of weeks we will take this back and we'll go back
[1:41:32] to the table and we will move forward where everybody will know
[1:41:37] that an updated or enhanced proposed plan will be available
[1:41:44] on thursday in the board packet and then we would move forward uh to bring that
[1:41:49] to the board for action on tuesday august 17th so thank you i appreciate it
[1:41:56] thank you superintendent superintendent stanley we're going to now move on with
[1:42:01] our board meeting and next up for discussion is policy review where we'll be discussing policies 629 and 913.
[1:42:11] um owen are you just are you leading this
[1:42:17] no julian i apologize i couldn't remember i couldn't remember
[1:42:24] that's right thank you julie for stepping in that's right and when you can correct me if i get anything wrong
[1:42:30] owen is the chair of the policy committee and i am stepping in to since owen is we don't know where owen is he
[1:42:36] just is out so um so the two policies that are up for discussion
[1:42:41] tonight are policy 629 and policy 913 i'll start with policy
[1:42:47] 629 which is about student fund raising
[1:42:54] there is nothing necessarily substantial about the changes that were done to policy 629
[1:43:02] we really just struck one of the lines in there about notifying about fundraising
[1:43:08] to the community um because it really lacked purpose um in practice and so that is why and then the second thing is
[1:43:15] we also struck um under 7b we struck a line that was just redundant was already covered within policy
[1:43:21] um and really that most the changes are just making language consistency in terms of um
[1:43:27] in terms of how we talk about activities at the school so which you'll see we're working
[1:43:34] policy through policy to make things a little bit more consistent so does anyone have any
[1:43:39] questions [Applause] okay great
[1:43:45] and then moving on to policy 913 partnerships organizations and parent booster clubs
[1:43:51] this again is a policy nothing substantial really changed in it um it's in good standing
[1:43:57] kind of with how things should roll out and what we've the way that we've
[1:44:03] the way it's been laid out it does work hand in hand with policy 709 which we've talked about kind of
[1:44:09] bringing to the forefront with um for principles and new pto leadership and just making sure that we're
[1:44:14] communicating this policy so not many changes on that one either
[1:44:21] does anyone have any questions ellen yeah i just have one question and i
[1:44:26] i'm looking for director tope but he's not here um ed well
[1:44:32] okay director tushar i um i have a question with respect to
[1:44:37] last year i remember we had changed a policy that um and it was according to state
[1:44:44] law and it had to do with funding of that the school board would be
[1:44:50] responsible for finance for the finances of
[1:44:55] our activity groups that and i'm i'm just do you know which one
[1:45:01] i'm talking about i do know the legislative change you're talking about director jones and what what happened is just what you're saying
[1:45:07] is everything had to come under the auspices of the district and so those this that's separate from this policy
[1:45:13] but that's a great question so um and i understand that that is
[1:45:18] that's separate from this policy but as i read this policy it
[1:45:24] it means that we have no requirement or the we can't make any
[1:45:32] um requirements on these booster clubs in order in as far as auditing or as far
[1:45:41] as so i'm just trying to make sure that we can can
[1:45:46] tie together those two things one if we are going to be responsible for their finances but we
[1:45:53] don't have any um any any other uh
[1:45:59] ability to hold them accountable so and i i would refer to director tope
[1:46:05] if he was here but um this is about the ptos and the booster clubs and that's separate from districts those district
[1:46:11] sponsored activities and so these are separate entities and so this relates to this relays to
[1:46:18] how they're separate and that that change in the legislature had to do
[1:46:24] with there were different types of activities that that students participated in so it
[1:46:29] didn't affect the pto and the booster club component um does that help yes as
[1:46:35] long as it didn't if if they're totally separate and this does not pertain to
[1:46:40] the activities that are mentioned in the legislation then i'm okay with
[1:46:46] this great any more questions
[1:46:53] great okay sorry go ahead jd julie um i know you mentioned policy 709
[1:47:01] is that policy up for the policy committee to review anytime
[1:47:06] soon or when does that one come through great question director shall that is on
[1:47:13] our next round that we'll be reviewing this year oh thank you
[1:47:22] else no that's okay we'll move on to our action items um do
[1:47:28] i have a motion to approve the general obligation school building bonds
[1:47:34] motion to approve second outstanding we have director of business
[1:47:40] services john tope and we also have matt hammer from ellers and associates here to
[1:47:46] present to us thank you good evening chair ellenberg superintendent stanley and members of
[1:47:52] the board on may 11 2021 the edina school district voters approved two questions
[1:47:58] one was for a capital project levy renewal and a 500 000 annual increase
[1:48:04] question two on the ballot was uh improvements at three different schools for parking lot and lighting
[1:48:10] improvements and an addition to the bus garage tonight we're here to present a
[1:48:16] resolution for you to ratify so that we can issue 7 million dollars in school district general obligation
[1:48:24] building bonds we anticipate that the construction will start in the spring of
[1:48:30] 2022 and proceed on from there
[1:48:36] we have a pre-sale report here by ellerson associates and i'm going to turn it over to matt hammer of ellers
[1:48:43] and associates to go over just the very highlighted areas of the pre-sale report
[1:48:49] matt thank you john my name is matthew hammer
[1:48:56] and i won the wrestling match tonight to come over here jody actually had a had a
[1:49:01] birthday today so i'm sitting in for her but i'm also been a part of the team since i started at eller so i appreciate
[1:49:08] the opportunity to be here tonight um i'm not going to go over the the report in detail but i will just touch on
[1:49:16] on the schedule that we have laid out um you guys can read that at your leisure and i can certainly answer any
[1:49:23] questions tonight in regards to that but um we will receive another rating as part
[1:49:28] of this process it should be pretty straightforward um because you guys uh had a rating um as soon as last may so
[1:49:35] we're hoping to to have a streamlined process there um we are going to accept bids on september 8th
[1:49:43] that's what the ratifying resolution is setting the parameter for tonight and then the school board will ratify
[1:49:48] that at their regular meeting on september 13th rates have been staying really nice and
[1:49:54] low and and we're assuming we're going to be able to hit the tax impact estimates that were provided
[1:50:00] as part of the election last may so with that i can answer any
[1:50:05] questions folks have for me tonight um but uh that's all i have
[1:50:12] one one very quick uh question so definitely appreciate doing it on a wednesday middle of the month i know
[1:50:18] we've had that be a practice so we've instituted four years ago and it's gone quite well you guys have helped us beat the estimate each time so that's
[1:50:24] excellent is there any benefit to doing it prior to labor day or prior to the jackson hole meetings getting closer
[1:50:30] um i don't think right now i mean in the tax-exempt market i think we're we've been seeing
[1:50:37] rates stay nice and low and we're assuming that we're we're we're going to be seeing um good bid results um
[1:50:44] when we take bids in september okay
[1:50:50] not challenging us want to ask the question though you think if if there's a readiness you don't
[1:50:55] think august 25th would be better than september 8th it's going to be absolutely dead in the
[1:51:00] market at the end of august from a supply demand perspective so does the preparation need to be that close to the
[1:51:06] 13th i'm asking is we backing it up from the 13th meeting or are we is there a different reason why we're doing it on
[1:51:12] the 8th um we're actually from the standpoint of a timing perspective this is from this
[1:51:18] meeting to when we're going to sell is kind of the time frame we need to get the os and all those things put together
[1:51:24] um so from that perspective we are backing up from the 13th to try to hit that date
[1:51:30] i will also mention the parameter that's set as part of the resolution is 2.3 percent um right now
[1:51:37] our assumption is that we're going to be right around 1.8 percent coming into that sale so we should be beating that
[1:51:43] okay okay that sounds good i just wanted to check on those two thoughts i had all right
[1:51:50] thank you you guys have done a good job for years so i appreciate it thank you i appreciate the opportunity
[1:51:56] ellen i don't have oh sorry i saw your mic was on so i got
[1:52:04] are there any other questions for anyone oh yeah procedurally are we gonna do the same thing we do every time i approve and then it comes back to the board on
[1:52:10] monday and signing that day okay yeah it's set up for a school board officer and and john to accept awards on the
[1:52:15] eighth yep okay all right got it thanks great we will now vote by roll call to
[1:52:21] approve the general obligation um school building bonds ellenberg i fox
[1:52:29] all right green i jones i michaelson
[1:52:34] shaw
[1:52:40] fallen treatment okay the um general obligation
[1:52:46] school building bonds uh description application is approved thank you thank you chair ellen thank you very much
[1:52:54] okay um do i have a motion to approve policies 439 505 and 908 so
[1:53:02] is there a second second i will turn it over i assume to board member green again yes great thank
[1:53:09] you thank you so policy 439 policy 505 and policy 908
[1:53:14] we um discussed at last month's meeting um policy the notable changes are in policy
[1:53:22] 439 feedback from director jones and director wallon friedman
[1:53:27] to add in a definition of employee which was added in to give more clarification
[1:53:33] and also under g4 on 439
[1:53:39] is to reference that same change so that it's more consistent
[1:53:45] so those two changes were made and then policy 505 and policy 908
[1:53:50] the action is to rescind them both based on the acceptance of policy 439 for policy 908 so i don't know if anyone
[1:53:58] has any additional questions or if we caught that we got that feedback right
[1:54:04] okay great we'll now vote by roll call to approve policies 439 505 and 908.
[1:54:13] hallenberg aye fox aye green aye jones aye
[1:54:19] michelson shaw hi walden friedman aye
[1:54:26] the policies are approved um we're gonna move on to board leadership
[1:54:31] and committee updates um i know that board member green had a
[1:54:36] update that she wanted to share i did
[1:54:48] i just wanted to give a quick update um from the edina ed fund that there is an event coming up on tuesday august 17th
[1:54:56] called band together at the high school where there will be community bands playing there's four or
[1:55:02] five and there'll be some food trucks and it's a free event
[1:55:08] donations are welcome and it goes towards the heel together
[1:55:14] mental health campaign that's going on so i just wanted to give a shout out to everyone at the ed fund who working hard
[1:55:19] on doing that i think it's a great way to gather outside safely where we can reconnect with our community so
[1:55:26] that's my community or my committee update
[1:55:32] uh does anyone else have any updates the only update i have is um in case you were trying to watch the um work session
[1:55:39] tonight we had some technical difficulties so it was not streamed
[1:55:44] um for the majority of the time so we apologize for that but you did not miss
[1:55:50] any content dr stanley reviewed the packet and then the full board
[1:55:56] discussion was actually at this meeting tonight so i just wanted to mention that as well as the
[1:56:02] recommendations for back to school plan any changes to that will be coming back to the board on the
[1:56:07] 17th which is next tuesday next tuesday so that um they
[1:56:15] will be posted um at the end of this week i believe um for the community to see and then we will
[1:56:21] meet again on them next tuesday that's all i have anything from you dr
[1:56:26] stanley i just have one update well a couple first of all it's been great to see the
[1:56:33] kids out on the fields and back maybe not great for them and all that heat with practicing but it has been
[1:56:39] really good to be able to see them i appreciate that and then this week i had an opportunity to reconnect with
[1:56:47] a consortium that we are engaged with and it is consortium 2034
[1:56:53] and it is a group of high-performing districts from across the united states
[1:56:58] who come together to think critically and strategically about what we can do to continue to push
[1:57:04] ourselves innovatively to make certain that we are at the forefront and on the cusp of exciting learning that is
[1:57:11] happening and so i'm really excited dr smallsaw and i are able to connect with those leaders in
[1:57:17] late september and i just appreciate knowing that this group is together that is
[1:57:22] pushing us the group is representative from from california from texas from illinois
[1:57:30] just had a great time getting to know them a little bit in a virtual call and i look forward to
[1:57:35] being pushed a little bit more great thank you um with that the meeting
[1:57:41] is adjourned and we'll see each other on the 17th thank you