We will call to order the Tuesday October 14th, 2025 Park and Recreation Commission. The meeting is made in order at 7 o'clock. 7 o'clock on the dot. Jennifer, please have a roll call. Commissioner by. Present. Commissioner Garazatua. Present. Commissioner Halbert. Here. Mr. Spalding. Here. Commissioner Webb. Here. Commissioner Kane. Here. Mr. Poole. Here. Great. Thank you. If I could please ask for a motion for the approval of today's agenda if there are no amendments to it. We are a move to the room. Second. Abulous. All in favor? Aye. Perfect. Are we having the importance of the matter? I'm sorry. Who's going to be the minutes? Yes. Oh. What? Who are the minutes? I know. But it says we're going to make the product. I'm not. Oh, I must have missed that. Oh, Patty's here. Sorry. So I need approval of the meeting minutes, please. Can I get a motion? Unless there are any amendments or corrections? Motion. Motion. Which group? Motion to approve. Second. Second. All in favor? Aye. Perfect. Thank you. Do we have any special recognitions or presentations this evening? Perfect. And then if here's as though we have no community comments. So we will move on to item number 7.1, our summer view, and special event for the meeting updates. Yeah, but evening chair and commissioners, and the clerk, our recursion advisor is here to provide new rules over the summer of the adopting our youth program and special events. So I like the support. Hi. Welcome. Good evening. Like Tracy said, I'm only the clerk and recreation supervisor here at the city. I oversee some of our youth programs, some family, special events, and then our adaptable to the new inclusion programs. So I was just going to give you a highlight of summer, kind of recap how that went. And then just kind of speak to you about some upcoming programs and events and things that we do. So as you know, we offer a wide range of these programs really starting at age, like eight months and up. So we have like music together classes, gymnastics, soccer, T-ball, Skyhox, all of those kind of little youth sports programs. All the way up through really in my role through age like 14, 15 of their volunteers, and then obviously employees. So they come through, you know, I think 16 of them work with us through college and yeah. So I also first year adaptive and inclusion opportunities. We have some adaptive and inclusion opportunities in house. So we'll do inclusion for like all of our in-house programs like our programs. We've done like the skate, art programming, all of that. But we also partner with Reach for Resources to expand some of our adaptive and inclusion for athletics association. Some in-house adaptive programs we offer our art programs at the senior center, like our presence for the holidays. Let's bring our class. We do adaptive golf and then adaptive water running. So we're at Edinburgh pool. Some programs that we've recently partnered with for Reach for Resources are social seekers. Some creative art therapy at our, you know, senior center and our classroom there and some painting. So that's kind of a gist of our adaptive and inclusion. But then here to recap summer, park programs are a large part of our summer programming. We offer our art programs at multiple parks in the city. Is anyone familiar with the park programs that we offer? Yeah. So we serve ages like that four and five or four and five year olds. And then we have our general park programs which are like six to 12. And then we also have traveling to which are 11 to 14 year olds. And then like I said, we have our volunteer program that kind of gaps that like 14 and 14 year olds before that they're eligible for hire. So some fun, unique participation facts ran the numbers. So we right now have shifted to a model of the last few years of going to the weekly registration. We have kind of been figuring out what works best for our city and residents. And it seems that the weekly model works best. We used to be like registered for the full season. But we're finding that that was actually kind of a little bit more on them and even for families because they maybe only wanted to use one or two weeks but not pay for eight weeks in the summer. So we went to a monthly model. I also felt like that was maybe a little bit more limiting because maybe they wanted to come one week in July but they didn't want to pay for the whole month. So we went to a weekly model last summer was our first year implementing that. And this summer would have been our second year but it I feel like we showed a lot of our numbers have increased and especially what thing that I noticed was being participation. I ran some fun numbers. So I get Pam LaPart. We serve 268 unique participants. So had we gone to that full summer model, we would have never led 268 kids in for the summer. Do you know what I mean? So this way we were able to capture a lot more participants throughout the summer with allowing them to kind of register for the weeks that they want. So we had a country side. We saw 99. We had a mini nature explorers program at Art of Park. So like four or five and six year olds. We saw 81 unique participation. Traveling teams. We had 198 unique participation. And some contact as we led 65 kids into traveling teams each week. So we have a lot of repeat but also it's nice to see that you do get to have multiple participants. So then we have our volunteer program. This year we had 12 volunteers with us. It kind of ebbs and flows. I would say the most we've had is maybe 16 throughout the summer. We just ask that they have a commitment to work at the summer. So it's the program's eight weeks that they can come in to four of the eighties to provide consistency. And then we had about 45 part program leaders. And we had 116 applications. So and we had a ton of returning staff which is great. But it's also exciting to see that kids in the community are wanting to work for us in the parks. So a few new program highlights. We had our first ever pint-sized safety camp take place at Country Side Park. And that was ages four and six. So that was only one Monday through Thursday in the mornings. And then you started to pilot an in-house tee ball and like morning soccer for kids like ages three to five in the mornings. So and we're going to plan to bring both those back next summer and hopefully scale that up. Some successes that we have had a really strong dedicated team of teachers and I would say students in college kids. We have a handful of teachers that come back every summer and work for us which is also a blessing and really nice. A lot of them work in the community too. So we feel that we have consistent and positive parent and caregiver feedback about the programs. I would notice that like we would have let's say 50 kids register for Pamela and then I go rerun roster's Monday morning and all of a sudden we have like 65. So you have like 15 editions over the weekend. So that was kind of fun and exciting to see that like kids obviously enjoyed it the week that they came. So then they would register and come back the next week. And like I said we had study attendance and growth in a lot of our programs throughout the summer. I would say a few challenges that we had are just kind of finding that niche number of like how many programs do it does the community want without having like too many programs. Because I know like we had brought back our program to a Weber part but then when we looked at numbers we had like one week we had five kids and another week we had two. So just kind of balancing out like but then Pamela has 70. You know what I mean? So like how does that you know translate and how can we get back into like some of those other pockets and meet those programs on an exciting. And then yeah same with Norman Dale's another one that we feel like over the years I also think that the neighborhood has maybe changed over a little bit and some older kids are there and not as many younger kids. And then some of our Walnut Ridge morning sessions. So there's just a few programs that we really had to run and I know we had some disappointed residents when we had to cancel those but the numbers just weren't there for us to run this summer. And then some special events that we had we had our neighborhood family's fun night. Has anyone been to a family fun night in your neighborhood? Yeah. So every night. Every night. Every night. So that's a partnership that we do with our community engagement manager and then our police department. And then every summer in July is far smart creation. So we'll do a bunch of different pop-up programs. We'll be at the farmer's market. There's a fishing tournament at Centennial Lakes. There's usually like a special hosted Wednesday night kids concert. And then we've also incorporated some stuff for the free family front is here at Brainarm in July. And then this year we also had our fan jam event the last that was in July which is kind of our like summer park program. And this summer but this year was the end of summer. It was the end of July program that we had. So. And then just some things to look forward to for the fall. We have our hallelujah trick or treat trail which will take place next Friday at Edinburgh park. And then we have our pumpkin smash and bash event which is a partnership with our fair department and organics. And that Saturday morning in November 1st at Countryside. And they are redo like pumpkin bowling and they do like a rolling contest. Has anyone been to that one? No, it's super fun. And then the pumpkins like the top 10 pumpkins that make it the farthest get to go up in the fire truck. And then we have a big bull's eye on the fire truck drop some from like 60 feet in there. And they splash out. It's actually really it's a really fun event. It's love it. And I think last year we probably have about 500 people there. So you need to get rid of your pumpkins. Join us at Countryside Park on November 1st in the morning. We'll have three coffee too. So. And then we have a pop star party that we are hoping to run. We had any cancel last one this spring due to low enrollment. But it's here at the golf course on November 8th. And then another thing that we have coming up is our second annual quality weekend at Centennial Lakes Park. And that will take place the week after Thanksgiving. This year we're going to run it Wednesday through Saturday. It's also in partnership with Eden and Lincoln. So they'll have some fun 21 plus events. But we will have our photos with Santa Thursday night. Friday night there's going to be a 21 plus puzzle competition. And then Saturday morning we have our family day. I don't know if anyone went to it last year. Decked out the whole fuse with the pavilion. It was kind of like the jingle bar by with a bunch of tinsel and lights and different things like that. So really fun event to look forward to. It was kind of newer last minute last year. But something we're bringing back to the other year's events. Okay, that's kind of a gist. Does anyone have any questions? I have a question. We have to cancel a program at one of the parks for lack of participation. Do you offer away from those folks to get into a different program? Yeah, always. Yeah. So like with the park program we would like offer whatever other morning programs. And even if those were full, we would still say, hey, would you contract for your registration into those other programs? Some, it was proximity. So they would cancel a walnut. They didn't want to go to a pan lot because it was just slightly too far. So yeah. And then my other question is, what the weekly moving to the weekly is given the staffing challenge. What are you saying like you have 15 people who are still over the weekend? Is that forcing challenges? Well, that number doesn't, I mean usually we are pretty well staffed and given the fact that we've had a lot of applicants, which is nice too. So I always kind of hire a few extra to kind of be floaters and subs and things like that. Just because you never know if someone else can call them sick or whatever. But I will say, yeah, like I would cap it if I was worried that we're going to get like 30 more registrations. So yeah. But if we're already staffed for like 50 kids, usually we'll hardly have to stay out there. So another time is going to be there. I'm curious for the programs that you've canceled. What sort of strategies do you have for next year to avoid that? Yeah. So like for the Weber one, I heard from a few parents, you know, that they were a little bit upset because they were able to be for not a part construction was done and all of that. They had that program back and I just said thank you also helped spread the word in the community. Just so we can run it, because unfortunately if we spread the wrong program by two participants, you know what I mean. So, and a few of them said yes, we would get the word out. So I don't know what just kind of that word amount, I guess, too. And I think that's, I mean, I don't know how else to really advertise those. I mean, we can look at registrations and do a few more social media pushes and emails and things like that. We also could do like the next door post. But I do think what happens is parents want to go where their kids' groups want to go so we can get some of those groups to also shift over. So like I said, like Pamela would have 60 to 70 and that's not that far. So, I think that's the way we can get ourselves. I want the week registration. I think that's the way we register. Yeah, no. We register and not use it. But weeks we'll use the whole week. And I feel like so many outside, like the size of us, like the school district does weeks. Like all like those outside private vendors, a lot of times those camps are by weeks too. So I feel like it's easier for parents to plan that too. And would you see some programs that we're just filling up really quickly? I felt like the nature camp sold out. Yeah, some of those did have wait lists. And I will say like as far as wait lists go, I always think it up wait lists because one, we can not only look at adding more staff, especially when we have so many haplicans. I feel like we're always like, okay, well then let's just add more staff too. I feel like we still have a lot of people that register in February, but then I don't can't plan. So those do move. And then same with traveling teams. Like I had people that were, I don't know, 23 on the way, but I said they got it. You know what I mean? Because sometimes like you might invite people off the wait list, but then they're like, oh, we're actually going to a family vacation that week. So like you can go down the list, but just because you're 23 doesn't mean that 23 people are going to say yes. So I feel like they do work. Yeah. So. No questions? No questions to comment the Friday, three Friday funds you were a huge hit with my kid in all of her. Oh, good. Yeah. I am fine. Wonderful. Congratulations on a good year. Thank you so much for your report. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. The map will take us to item number 7.2 the eight in the athletic center. We get to update sites. Okay. I'm a graphic general manager. I'm going to park and maybe that. I'm going to provide the pool update in 2025. Yeah. Tracy, good evening. Grace is that I'm getting the grab and the general manager at Edinburgh Park and the Dye and the Quad of Center. Tonight, I'll just give you some highlights from 2025 and our season. I will also talk about some more challenges and what we're looking forward to in 2026. So for starters, we had a safe, fun summer. I'm asking you now the little paper here that will just show you some information, some interesting statistics and things like that. Our season was from June 5th to August 17th. So that was a 73 day season. Later, when we talk about challenges, I'll talk about the weather a little bit because we may have forgotten, but it was really challenging. And then of course, this summer, especially June, when I look back today, together some information. June was really challenging for us at the Quad of Center. As far as staffing goes, we hired up over 130 young people, teenagers and young adults to work at the Quad of Center. And those roles are concessions, admissions, lifeguards, managers, leads. We have some progressions in our guest service side and our lifeguard side. So if some of our staff come back here after a year, they have the opportunity to take on more responsibility and grow. Within their roles, we had 70 lifeguards. And so 24 of those were new. It's 64 will return, which is really a phenomenal retention rate, honestly. And it makes things go a lot smoother. So we also just feel like we had a really solid team of all of our staff and really working to have guest services and lifeguards. Their work areas are very separate, so trying to have them work together. And it's not just e-dienicants, it's kids from a lot of different schools. And that really helps us out. And it helps them grow in their workplace as well. When you look at statistics, you can just see on the paper we handed out that we're looking at the attendance, remember check-in, stay the admissions. Total attendance was down a little bit, but when I talk about the weather, I think that will explain some of that. Season pass sales were down also, and we had some strategies that were working on for that that I'll talk about. And concession revenue was up. And so that has been kind of a trend that we had been seeing last year was a little bit less, but really we added some of the products. With our concessions, it's kind of a constrained area. So we really have to try to be as efficient as we can. We sold 54,185 items out of our two windows in our concession area. And we expanded the menu with UYAs. We offered some sandwich wraps and some other kinds of drinks and some other types of ice cream products that seemed like they were really well received. For other fun, we also hosted three member only after our swimming events, and so that's for season pass holders. In the past, we've done one throughout the season. So this year we thought we could do more, so we did one in June, one in July, one in August. Very fun, very well received. We closed the facility, everyone has to leave, and then we reopened just to season pass holders, and it took a couple hours. We have special gains and contests and prizes and things like that. Throughout the three nights, we think we had about a thousand people that came just to those events over those three nights. And so people would like us to do it more often, actually. So that was a big hit, and then we also had introduced something with this year called the birthday budge. So we do birthday parties at the aquatic center also, and we ordered some special tubes for our tube slide that say Happy Birthday on them. And then when people book a birthday party, everyone in their group gets a wristband, and the birthday person gets to use this special tube, so everyone kind of knows it's their birthday. And kind of like other places where you have a fast-passing, with the wristband, they get to go up two times, not as many times as they want, but once before they eat and once after they eat, they kind of get to go up and skirt the line and get up to the top. So that was a lot of fun for people this year. We learned, it was something new we introduced, and we learned some things after the very first one that we needed to limit the number of times that they could go. And so we heard some other of our patrons had to say about the birthday budge, and so we figured out a way still to make it fun, but we just had to put some parameters on it, so that went out just fine. And then in terms of facility improvements, we had some things where we replaced our, in the zero depth pool, we replaced the guttour grading, which doesn't sound very exciting, but it improved the look of the pool. It also was a safety issue we had in our existing grading. We had some that were getting too far apart, we have little fingers and toes, and that's a problem. So that was really a great improvement for us. Other city staff, city electricians helped us with improving the lighting in the locker room area, which was sorely, sorely needed, and it really was a good improvement for us in there. And then we also replaced the two dining boards. If you haven't been there, we have a low dive and a high dive, and we had a very generous donation from a long, long time patron who loves to come there and dive. And he donated $13,000 so we could purchase the two new dining boards. And so that was really a great thing for us to get that donation and that help. The last two things kind of want to commend the Park Commission because we put two things into place that were suggestions from last year. So one of those was rekindling our relationship with the dining kids club and the summer daycare program. They had not been coming to the dining products, or they'd been going a lot of other places. And so we reached out to them, had a number of meetings to try to figure out what could work for their program, what could work for our program, and it was really successful. And in fact, at the end of the season, we met with them again, and they just said, we're so happy to be back and we want to be able to bring more kids and come on a journey. And so we're still kind of working through that right now, but just on their supervision and their chat rooms are tremendous and it's really easy for us to have them at our facility. So that's really great. And then the second suggestion was about keeping, expanding the hours of concessions. And so we did do that and we stayed open. We used to close concessions in one hour before we closed the facility. And so now we actually stayed open until we closed. And so that I think there were a number of families and people over there that appreciated that as well. So that's kind of our season highlights. For challenges, really, we had kind of two big ones, season pass sales, and if you look at the information I shared, you can see that they have been out there and decline. Just the number of passes selling, I know over the last few years, the trend has been downward. So we're working on some things for next year to have some more offerings for that. What do we attribute that to? It's really hard to say. It could be economy. It could be just more options. It could be a change in demographics. So we're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. We're working on a lot of things. Then just the weather. In June, we had six days that we were closed in June. That's potentially at least $20,000 a day in revenue that we're missing out on. Two days it was 55 degrees and 15 mile an hour winds. Nobody's coming to be a product that had been. It's not safe for our staff either. We really just looked at June, all of the weather. We had air quality. We had storms. We had heat advisories. Then we had the cold days as well. It was just a little bit of everything. It was really hard at conversations with Tracy and Perry. Our team was trying to get in there routine because the weather initially was so up and down. It was really hard to have everybody engaged and focused. Looking ahead to 2026, I will talk about the filter room replacement project a little bit. That is underway at this time. The city council approved that. I'm not sure how much everybody does know about that. It is underway. We have a lot of construction happening there underway. The reason that we needed to do that is that we replaced the filter room a number of reasons. But primarily the search tanks were not in compliance with the Minnesota Department of Health. We were operating fine, but it was just a matter of time before we wouldn't be operating fine. We were trying to be proactive to take care of this. The search tanks that we need would not fit into the 1958 space that we have. That was the need to get all of that area. There was also some structural deterioration in there that needed attention as well. This will replace all of the mechanical equipment as well and the search tanks in there. It will provide a safer, more functional and accessible space. Our chemical delivery happens down there. I'm not sure all of you have been on that road. It's very narrow between the pond right there and the filter room area. They're backing up a large straight truck into that spot. They'll be really happy about that as well. In addition to replacing the filter room in its entirety, there's a few other things that come along with that project. We had one shade structure that was over near the diving boards. It needed to come down and it looked a good life, but it needed to come down. We'll be replacing that with a different shade structure there. There will also be behind the diving board area and directly over the filter room. There would be four new cabanas. Then it would be pieces of spaces that will be rentable, reservable, shade spaces. That is something else that we're still working out the pricing and structure of what that will look like for renting those spaces. The main pool and the zero depth pool are both getting sandblasted and repainted. That will give us a little bit of a sort of a need as well. That will give us a fresh new look. Then the plunge pool, when you come down on the water slides, that's actually plaster. The other pools are concrete that are painted. That's actually plaster. That will get a new plaster coating and it's called Diamond right up in the shot. We're excited about getting this done. It's a tight timeline. There are two ways about it. We're just hoping that everything can stay on track and that we will plan to open on schedule next year. We are right now working on fees and charges for 2026. We're just trying to make it easy for customers to pick up options to pick from that will work for them. It's one thing that isn't working, what else can we do to try to keep them accommodating with that? Looking at a family pass, looking at an August only pass, and seeing your big pass or some options at what kind of thing that we have. We'll look forward to another fun, safe season in 2026. Because of the school schedule, we're extending the season by one week also next year. Because we do catch that a lot. Normally we would close the third weekend, which would be August 16th in 2026, but because of what school starts, we will actually stay open one week longer. May have some modified hours, but we will... Okay. That's my big book. Any questions? Just a quick thought. Phenomenal work, I love the goal, or definitely some of the growing up. Check my kids' debit cards, but that might be a difference in sessions this year. But for the pocket pass and 10 day passes, that owes me this year, right? We started it last year, but very late. We started it from the beginning, and so this was a full year of five and 10 mission passes. Okay, so is that what I think is the difference in the season packages that people are able to purchase, like, the punch cards? But we hear that people really like that, because the thing that's different than a season pass or the multi pass is that you could bring your kids and two favorite kids. It's transferable where a season passes not. Okay. Is there currently a pass that you can flex the number? Like, if you wanted to bring a friend of one of your kids, but you didn't want to be the same friend over time, would you not? Do not. I feel like that's an issue we run into, as we're limited to bringing people to the power pass. It'd be nice if you had a flex pass, like we could just bring any of our kids' friends. I don't know how complicated that makes things bad. Not sure if our system could handle that exactly. And that is one limiting factor we have a little bit, is our software. Sometimes limits the kinds of packages that we can set up. Can you explain how the five pass and the ten pass thing works? Like, you're saying you can bring, like, neighbor kids. Like, how does that all work? It's just like a punch card, so it has a little bit of a reduced price. If I have a mission pass, it's $60, and ten mission passes, $110. So that's a little discount off the day the admission. And so I buy it, and I can bring whoever I want. I can come five times by myself, or you can bring yourself and four friends. And then if you use it up, you can reload it. Okay. Those are not considered season pass. So those are numbers are accepted. Right. Now, just looking at the numbers of the daily admission. They pretty much are pretty consistent throughout the year. Is that each person coming in? Okay. Daily, where it says daily admission, that's paid daily admission. So you don't have any other kind of a pass. You're coming to the window of paying today. Hey, what day? Okay. We had 41,000 people who paid daily admission. Okay. I heard punch-ups. That's right. That is paid. And the member check, and it is the season pass. Okay. How does the price instruction compare to other communities that are similar? Yeah, we've been doing a lot of research on other communities around us, but also out of the area. What are the other, maybe there's some other innovative things people are doing? And so we've been on the high end of pricing. Our daily admission at $14 has been on the high end. Others are catching up to us now. Our season pass prices have been also on the high end. And so we're trying to look at those and say, you know, is there some value add, or is there some other things that the structure that we have without us can be confusing to be honest. And it was confusing to people. So we're trying to move that. How long did admission prices in the past? And since they've been consistent with our year? They have changed. They have changed. The daily admission has been the same for the last two years. And season pass prices also have been the same for the last two years. But prior to that each year, there was a small increase, maybe a 5% increase or something like that. It went along with that. Do you have to be a resident? You got to be a season pass? We have different rates for residents and non-residents. Is the breakdown that are being consistent with primarily buildings? The purchasing of season passes is it's about 80-20 residents to non-residents, 85-15 even. Sure. Just a pretty quick math. The 2022, which is the highest season pass, it's been sold. Versus 2025, which is one of the lowest, right? The member check-ins by a ratio, it is pretty much the same. So it doesn't really affect your revenue because all the studies have been trucker now. So even though we have sold less, the revenue has maintained the same. Based on how many times those season holders have come in to the pool. Just put it back up. Yeah, so you're purchasing the pass and if you come three times over the summer or you come, 40 times over the summer, your price stays the same. We have that revenue. And so there's some people who will come 40 and some people will come 3. That's where attendance on season passes fluctuates. But because we've had an increase in those year over year season pass rates, that's what you're seeing now. Any other questions? Thank you. Great work. One of your congratulations on a good year. Thank you. All right. And we'll go to 7.3, which is our work time initiative 1.5.6 city code update. And I know that we have talked about this last meeting that we will be sending out here to everyone. And I think the information is in our packet and you want to walk us through them? I'd be happy to. It is not as exciting as Amanda and Patty's presentations. They do fabulous work for us. This is not that exciting. So, but there hopefully will be no math on this one. So I wanted to get this out earlier, but this is when I got it from MJ to include in your packet. She and the city management fellow Zoe Johnson have been working on this for all commissions. So this is similar or same with the uniqueness of what your role is. And that's really they want to update the part of the city code where all the boards and commissions. Details, powers, duties lie within city codes. All commissions are going through this. So they have in your packet just kind of a little bit of a timeline key tasks, how the evolution has occurred on their review of the city code duties. And then a little bit of the highlighted changes within that. So if you did look at in your packet page 12, it's the very abbreviated one. That is the new proposed language that they put together. The longer little bit more paragraph style one is the current language that is put in there. And they did just want to highlight some of those changes of what they kind of did in those purpose sections. So if you want, I can just go through what they had put in your packet. Really just a broader framing of the purpose of the commission updated from a narrow focus to a vision of enhancing quality of life to any well being. New language and how parks and recreation strengthens the down a sense of place and belonging. Clarified the role and advocate of advisory and advocacy. Just try to advocate advocate for parks and recreation, not an implement of programming. Inclusive and sustainability added explicit mention of accessibility inclusion and sustainability. That correlates and directly ties back to the city's values. Some human centered language to emphasize connecting residents to nature play and each other. The duties. They actually kind of condensed the list. So they took it from that descriptive paragraph to five numbered lists. Advisory focus emphasize advising the city council rather than managing or operating programs. And remove staff function kind of references developing a recommending specific programs. That is our staff responsibility that does be in. There is some language we can cover in that one as well. And kind of that long term perspective added so the duties highlight the input on planning and ensuring future focus. The one piece is there still is an active piece to recommend recreation and programming. And activities that meet the needs of the community. Just the big change was to make sure that you are not the implementer. Once you want to do that on a volunteer basis we would love to have it. Offset that but we have people who do the implementing. Love the idea of continued the ability to recommend and really kind of provide that feedback on the community. So that duties kind of went from a paragraph standpoint to a bolded list. And then the membership. You know really that kind of highlights who you are as individuals right. Nine regular members to student commissioners. Not many of you know I don't think in my tenure that there's always an Edina community education representative from the school board that's supposed to attend. They're a non voting number. They don't have. Participation requirements by any means. So in all reality they can it would send them the packet every month. But I think they're all for at least almost six years here running. So at least in my tenure they've not attended. Val would attend. Sometimes in the past. But that is a one big change on commission makeup is they're going to be proposing that that position just grow. We do have other ability to network with the school district. Whether it's community ed their athletics department or administration. If things were to arise. But kind of feeling you're the subject matter experts to the residents. That the membership would be limited to you. So here to take comments if you have any direct comments. Again I think they're they're hoping to wrap this up. By the end of the year and then. And then take that back to the city council. So if you had any comments on what they've instilled in the packet I can. Transcribe those and pass those along. So I will start just and I just have a couple of comments that I was thinking in looking at. I think they did a great job and it's clear. It's much more concise and to the point. But one thing I thought on number three just as a comment. Is that recommended recreation programs and activities that means the needs of the community. I thought two things were missing that I think that our commission does is that it is intended that we're collaborative. That we work with the community and with our representation are our work. And bring that forward and that we're also not only are we meeting the needs of that word responding to those needs. So I thought the word responsive might be nice. And then just as a. And then the only other question that I have is in number four. When it says to advise related. It buys on issues related to natural resources while like management preservation of natural areas. Should there be a caveat on that that is within the part of that system. I mean I think that would go without saying but I think for future to say. Maybe we need areas that are not going to be part of that. You don't want to deal with the tree or. I think if you're all concur with that that's that's appropriate because I think we struggle with that. And I assume it's in the park and I so it would go without saying but I think being clear is probably not a bad thing. Would be my two cents. Yeah that's very bad. So basically kind of as it relates to. Parking recreation or park properties or park assets or something of that effect. I think that's a good thing. I think that's a good thing. I think my twenty five cents works. Well it is good because I even think like you know as we've looked at like the climate action plan there's been things that were. Like is that our role or not right to regular advice people on their turf management practices. We can be an educational source but should we as parks department be imposing on private. So can we visit revisit the membership discussion again regarding in particular the school board. The reason I bring that up with what's going on. Would it be helpful to have somebody connected in. Not as a member of this commission because we're dealing directly with the athletics department. So even it came to like Courtney Fields or their Pamela fields where they play varsity sports at we connect directly with the athletics department. So you see a school board member. No. So I've got to collaborate with the community responsive to the community needs. And then for number four as it relates to park property land or assets how we can work. So I'm going to go ahead and spend time. Okay. And will this come back. Yeah. It may. So I can't guarantee it but it may come back. That gets to come up. Done. I'm going to check plus. Yeah. Perfect. That was anything else that's going to point to any of the comments. And we did not have. Work plan discussion on the agenda. So November will have the alternate funding mechanisms. This one's taken care of. The Ramar initiative group. We've got a doodle poll out and we're down to like. Two dates. So I'll talk to Suleiman after. We can connect on his schedule and we'll book a concept review meeting with that initiative. And then we only have our board plan just. Back. Were there any feedback or comment on your presentation last. Okay. Okay. Okay. Chair, remember comments. Do we have any comments, questions? I would like to just for the record. Well, the adaptive open was held here at the end of September. And the course and team did a fabulous job. I understand they'll be back. I know that'll be part of a future report. But they did a great job. We volunteered for that. And it really was wonderful to see. That was a lot. I'm sure that was a lot for the team toward me. And so who else? I know it said inaugural. We're really looking forward to hosting it again. We can make it an annual tradition. It would be fantastic, especially if you know that first year. Getting that word out. Joe did do a presentation of the city council. Prior, just to kind of fulfill some of the last volunteer spots that worked out well. And the golf was amazing. Yes. Yeah. I can't remember all the categories, but you know, you know, loss of limb, amputee, men's women. I think it was like eight different categories. Shmoana Prane, yeah. So it was just Joe and his team did an amazing job with it. Joe, Tommy, Jeff. It was fantastic. Tracy empowering them to do that is also fantastic. So with that, no other comments from our commission? It's not crazy to make a plan. Just a couple in your packet. One is we've kind of talked about this a little bit. Commissioner Garza to piloted it a little bit. Maybe got the incentive going, but beginning in January, the city will have a remote meeting participation policy for boards and commissions. So MJ will be sending that out to you. But in essence, there's just a couple of key points in your packet. You're the seed me. I think the only portion now they're working on is the technology deployment and what that means and how to test that. But really, so that'll be going to, going to practice January 1. She did already. Yeah, if you didn't get it, double check from me. It came home. I think the same day, you sent yours out. 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