StoryFY 2025 Cost Containment and Budget Reductions

Edina Schools approve budget plan to delay deep cuts two years

The Edina Public Schools Board approved a financial strategy on March 4 to address a $3.62 million budget gap by using borrowed funds to postpone immediate staff reductions, though board members expressed doubt the reprieve will last as long as hoped.

Meeting date: Mar 5, 2024
Published Jun 13, 2026

The board voted unanimously to adopt "Option A1," a plan that uses a capital note—essentially a short-term loan—to bridge an $800,000 shortfall and delay significant budget cuts for approximately two years. The alternative, Option A, would have required immediate staffing reductions across the district.

However, the approval came with considerable skepticism from board leadership. Director Birman, who moved the measure, stated bluntly: "We're hoping that this will get us two more years... I'll tell you right now I don't believe that to be true. I think if we're lucky we'll get 12 months." The core problem, according to Director Woodard, is structural: "Historically and presently the way revenues grow in the state of Minnesota, it lags behind expenditure growth." This means state funding isn't keeping pace with the district's rising costs.

The board also approved the purchase of five lease-return school buses to replace aging vehicles, some over 20 years old, and adopted several policy updates, including changes to graduation requirements for incoming freshmen.

During public comment, parents and community members advocated strongly for preserving specialized services—including nursing care, unified physical education programs, and staff who support deaf and hard-of-hearing students and school psychologists. These services became central to the budget debate, with supporters arguing they are essential to student success and equity.

The meeting also included public protest regarding the suspension of students following pro-Palestinian speech and alleged harassment. The board declined to comment on specific disciplinary actions, citing active litigation with the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights.

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FY 2025 Cost Containment Recommendations

Approved

Dissent: None formally recorded in the vote, though several members expressed severe reservations about future fiscal stability.

Moved by Director Birman [3:46:22] · Seconded by Unknown [3:46:30]

Board members discussed the necessity of buying time to find efficiencies versus the danger of a 'false hope' that might lead to larger cuts later. There was a focus on the structural deficit caused by state funding lagging behind inflation.

Pupil Transportation Vehicle Purchase

Approved

Dissent: None

Moved by Director Huey [3:55:07] · Seconded by Director Birman [3:55:15]

The purchase of five lease-return school buses to replace aging fleet vehicles (some over 20 years old).

Policy Approvals (421, 515, 601, 602, 613)

Approved

Dissent: None

Moved by Unknown [3:54:33] · Seconded by Unknown [3:54:40]

Focus on Policy 613 regarding social studies requirements for incoming freshmen.

We're hoping that this will get us two more years... I'll tell you right now I don't believe that to be true. I think if we're lucky we'll get 12 months.

Director Birman [3:41:00]
FY 2025 Cost Containment Recommendations

Historically and presently the way revenues grow in the state of Minnesota, it lags behind expenditure growth.

Director Woodard [3:37:43]
FY 2025 Cost Containment Recommendations
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[4:26] evening everyone it is March Monday March 4th and we have a quorum so I will call this meeting to order um our first

[4:33] agenda item is approval of our agenda do I have a motion to approve tonight's agenda so moved do I have a second

[4:40] second all those in favor of approving tonight's agenda say I I anyone

[4:45] opposed tonight's agenda is approved um our um Dr Stanley would you please

[4:51] review tonight's agenda for us yes I will so um we are going to acknowledge

[4:57] some individuals who are representing Excellence we're going to hear from the public you have your consent agenda for

[5:04] discussion we have international travel uh our unified transition project search

[5:11] um an update around our cpss efforts uh specifically

[5:16] Dei um for action oh and then we have some policies for Action we have our

[5:23] American Indian resolution we have our FY 2025 cost

[5:29] containment recommendations people Transportation vehicle purchase and

[5:35] policies for approval we will have leadership and committee updates and my

[5:41] updates thank you Dr Stanley um now for excellence in action I'm going to turn

[5:47] it back over to Dr Stanley yes so we just want to acknowledge some individuals there demonstrating

[5:53] excellence in our system this comes from a parent from Southview Middle School

[5:59] she says hi Dr Stanley I want to let you know that our son is truly thriving at

[6:04] Southview middle school he seems to really have found his people the administrators are incredible and we

[6:11] truly feel like we've gotten our son back he's excited to get to school every day and is bouncing off the walls when

[6:17] he comes home particularly Julie cron who is the administrative Dean there is

[6:24] one of the incredible administrators there and anytime we need information records

[6:30] just someone to check in she has made herself available in the spirit of allowing the winds to be as loud as the

[6:37] challenges I want to celebrate the school and Julie thanks for all you're doing in the district Southview Middle

[6:44] School Parent I know let's clap for snaps for

[6:51] J and then this comes from a creek Valley Parent hello I wanted to send a

[6:56] quick note of appreciation my second grade has really enjoyed recess this year he

[7:02] plays football with a with a group of kids and like most elementary kids playing together organizing football can

[7:09] sometimes come with small disagreements and from time to time small disagreements from time to

[7:16] time but uh our child talks about Andre the

[7:23] recess supervisor so Andre works for Community Education he says that Andre helps

[7:29] things run smoothly and that Andre even plays with the kids sometimes our family is grateful for Andre and the work he

[7:36] does each day at Creek Valley please extend our gratitude for his service recess and play is important and Andre

[7:44] is helping to make that happen each day on the playground thanks Creek Valley

[7:51] Parent snaps for Andre and that's what I have this week

[7:58] thank you very much Dr Stanley we're now going to move to hearings for members of the public um and before we get started

[8:05] um I just wanted to welcome people for being here tonight um in order for our community comment agenda items to serve

[8:11] all including the public that is here to speak it import it's important that individuals understand the process

[8:17] tonight and our expectation of those at the podium and in the audience when you

[8:22] signed in and ask to speak you acknowledge an understanding and adherence to board policy 206 which our

[8:28] community comment guidelines pursuant to this policy each speaker has a maximum of 3 minutes to speak when those 3

[8:35] minutes are up you must conclude your remarks if you do not wrap up quickly I will ask you to stop if you continue to

[8:42] speak you will be ruled out of order and potentially asked to leave the boardroom this time is not designated to address

[8:48] items of specific of concern about specific staff or students and personal

[8:53] attacks by anyone at the podium are unacceptable if this happens you will be warned and if you persist you will will

[8:59] no longer be able to continue your remarks any feedback about District employees needs to go to their

[9:05] respective site level leader the superintendent or be submitted to the board in writing we ask that audience

[9:10] members listen attentively but do not interrupt applaud or disrupt the meeting in any way it is important to us that

[9:17] this space continues to be one of order inclusion and respect and we are all responsible for doing our part to

[9:23] maintain that environment while the public comment period during our board meetings is an

[9:29] important function and serves as a vehicle for our board and Community to hear stakeholders concerns our board is

[9:35] also here to accomplish the important work of our district board policy 203 provides guidance for how our board

[9:42] meetings will operate and states that a regular board meetings must end by 10 p.m. as such as announced to the public

[9:49] in January public comment period will be limited to 15 individuals per our

[9:54] updated protocols the school board will give first priority to Edina Public School student students individuals who

[10:00] have children attending the district or individuals who are employed by the district the school board will

[10:06] give second priority to individuals who wish to address a specific item that is on the agenda for that meeting if your

[10:13] form that was not filled out completely you are not eligible to be called to speak all efforts have been made to

[10:20] ensure multiple viewpoints are expressed multiple individuals expressing the same Viewpoint or multiple people from the

[10:26] same organization should consider consolidating their remarks if you are not chosen to speak your voice is not

[10:33] any less important to us so please consider sending us an email at Schoolboard edos schools.org or coming

[10:40] to the next um Regular board meeting finally during the public comment period

[10:45] our role as a board is to listen but this is not the place for the board to resolve any concerns and as such no

[10:51] comments will be made from the board issues will potentially be referred to the superintendent for appropriate

[10:57] followup Thank you very much for your cooperation um our first uh speaker

[11:03] tonight is Michelle

[11:22] shanes sorry microphone on the M hello um as a parent of three students

[11:30] in the D School District I just wanted to express my support for the Specialists Paris special ed and talent

[11:38] development staff that plays such an important role for our students I thank

[11:43] the board for your work and will yield back my time thank you very

[11:50] much our next um speaker is Emily

[11:57] Beerman is Emily Beerman here

[12:02] okay um our next speaker is U mun

[12:19] wasw hello um is this loud enough um I'm here for one simple reason and I think

[12:25] judging by the audience you know why I'm here I'm here to ask staff when are you

[12:30] going to apologize we have showed up to every single meeting I know that we've

[12:35] called and I know that we've emailed and we have yet to seen a single apology for the suspension of students simply

[12:42] practicing their freedom of speech so I am here today to not beat around the bush we are going to keep showing up

[12:49] until you say something you can look at me and you can have condescension but we don't care because we are not going to

[12:55] stop how dare you allow your students to not only be harassed by the staff but be

[13:01] harassed by the students you have refused to investigate your own staff you have refused to say anything how

[13:09] dare you you think you can hide behind this Podium and look down on us but you

[13:14] cannot silence us we are here because I'm not here to

[13:20] convince you to be Pro Palestinian even though this genocide is going on I am here to say that freedom of speech

[13:26] prevails and from the river to the Sea is not hate speech it is not hate speech

[13:32] it is calling for the liberation of my people we should all be standing for Liberation how dare you bring up native

[13:39] lives and the the land that was stolen when you continue to punish those who do

[13:44] not want history to be repeated how dare you what more is it going to take please

[13:50] tell me what do you want our people to do we have showed up we wear our flags

[13:56] and we have banners and we call and we email well guess what you're not listening so just tell me what more do

[14:04] you want that is all I'm asking that is all I'm asking please tell me Erica do

[14:11] you want to tell me Miss Erica Karen Stacy Elliot what do you want from us we have

[14:17] Aina alumni here who have also attended the school and I know for a fact that in

[14:23] your classes you teach about Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr people who stood Against Racism yet here you are

[14:29] doing the opposite of what they stood for how dare you bring up what happened to the natives on this land yet you

[14:36] punish those who simply wanted to speak out for my people that is what we're

[14:41] here for and if you're going to turn me away and read off some lousy rule sheet and

[14:48] some condescending sheet about listen to this and listen to that but don't say this but don't say that well guess what

[14:54] it's very clear that you've all become cowards you've become cowards you've become cowards all of you in this room

[15:00] can sit back when this is done and have a coffee and laugh and say look at that angry Arab girl well I don't care I'm

[15:07] going to say it once and I'll say it again from the river to the Sea Palestine will be

[15:14] [Music]

[15:22] [Applause] free can you please

[15:30] apolog schol you you

[15:35] apologize

[15:48] schiz apolog you better

[15:57] apologize

[16:03] [Music]

[16:27] Rec

[43:47] we were here he knows we're peaceful that's why he ain't doing

[43:55] anything

[45:11] comment do you want to hear my

[45:24] comments

[45:38] hold on look folks this is the thing we are now in active

[45:47] litigation we have an OCR suit we no longer can say anything

[45:56] until we are out of active

[46:02] litigation AC litigation we're going to be here every meeting and you're not going to have your meeting till we get a

[46:08] conclusion just drop the suspension ma'am I called your number I know Stacy sty superintendent I've called you

[46:14] you've not picked up a single voice message I probably called over aund times where was your call back I know it

[46:20] was ignoring all of your staff from Erica to Stacy to John to Jim all of you have been called there's been no public

[46:27] comment so honestly save it just save it yes

[46:32] [Applause] drop so we are about to come out and we are really hoping that you're

[46:40] going to be peaceful drop and you are going that's great okay we are hoping

[46:48] that you're not going to be disruptive and be silent so that we can

[46:55] move forward W with our meeting yeah can on can I say something that's

[47:02] exactly what we did two months I was just telling everyone I sat and again we

[47:08] are in active litigation and we cannot do anything anything as related to any

[47:15] of your demands until we are finished with

[47:21] litigation can can I finish I let let youall talk I let yall talk I'm going to

[47:28] finish thank you we did everything you guys are asking us to do you said hold

[47:33] on you said don't disrupt okay listen I can do you want me to show you my phone logs we all called we emailed I sat at

[47:40] this desk right here and I gave you guys a speech two months ago before the litigation was opened up so don't even

[47:46] give me this that oh it's about litigation because way before y'all had months this been going on since October

[47:51] we've been calling for months we've showed up in this room for months okay we' we have emailed four months she's

[47:59] saying two months but we actually came from November second one second so this excuse that it's about litigation y'all

[48:05] the litigation only got opened up within this last month so that's not even the excuse here and hold on hold on we gave

[48:11] y'all an opportunity all we asked very simple it's right up here erase the

[48:16] suspension from the students discipline the students who assaulted assaulted

[48:21] with metal water bottles as my uncle just said it was I don't care if it's a pro-israel student Pro China Pro Iran

[48:28] whatever it is if I hear that a child had a metal water bottle thrown at their head the very least you could do my mom

[48:35] works in a school my mom works in a school I worked in a school before the very least you can do is check your

[48:40] cameras check your damn cameras that's all we're asking well this is what I will say nope I did allow you to speak

[48:46] no no no I let you finish you didn't let me finish those cameras exist for a reason okay y'all are saying you want a

[48:52] dialogue I'm giving youall dialog right now no we never said that on we didn't say dialogue I said that I was going to

[48:58] make a statement and I made the statement we are in litigation and any information

[49:05] about our students about their records anything that will never be made public

[49:11] that will only that will only go to

[49:16] families and so

[49:24] you

[2:53:44] thank you than you everyone for your patience we are going to re return from Recess um because of the delay in

[2:53:52] returning from recess and our long recess um I would like to um see if

[2:53:59] someone would like to make a motion to amend our agenda to remove our discussion items so moved is there a second second

[2:54:07] all those in favor of amending our agenda to remove our discussion item say I I anyone opposed the motion carries um

[2:54:15] would um is there a motion to extend our board meeting um to 10:30 so moved

[2:54:23] second all those in favor extending of our board meeting till 10:30 say I I anyone opposed the motion carries um we

[2:54:31] are going to continue with our community comments um I would like to call up um

[2:54:36] Ashley cron if she is still here thank you um I would like to call up Victoria

[2:54:47] Linton oh right there never done this before you're all

[2:54:54] stand you can sit thank you um so I'm here because of my daughter Zoe uh Zoe

[2:55:01] is 12 years old she has been in Ed of public schools for um her entire life

[2:55:09] and she's thriving because of it she is like the most amazing child in the world

[2:55:15] and um we even sat through the whole um Palestinian in the the protest to just

[2:55:23] say that um we wanted our three minutes to talk about nursing care and how

[2:55:31] wonderful the schools are how great they've been with soe soe needs 247 care

[2:55:38] it's she needs gtube she has to be cathed

[2:55:45] she is nonverbal she can't feel pain and she thrives and you done in public

[2:55:52] schools she needs those nurses she needs those Paras she needs everyone there

[2:55:59] that the Adina unified program is unbelievable they're so great with her

[2:56:06] they they they I should up at the red carpet event and they said let me just

[2:56:11] take Zoe and I was like who are you I was like one of the students I'm like

[2:56:17] seriously you're going to take my daughter okay go ahead take her and they all love her and so they're all learning

[2:56:23] so much from this population of children who are disabled and so he's thriving

[2:56:29] because of it I couldn't send her anywhere else if I couldn't take care of her myself CU my husband is able to work

[2:56:35] and I get to stay home like I have that luxury I am able to take care of her but

[2:56:40] she needs nursing care and we've got 85 100 kids that are that are in this

[2:56:46] school district and what the you know we went through covid with these people

[2:56:52] these men and women who are helping our children to thrive and stay alive you

[2:56:59] know what they have to go through every day they you know I mean they'll call me in a second Zoe's got 100 degree fever

[2:57:07] I'm like don't mess with me she can come home right now you know why because I

[2:57:12] know my rights I'm like it's an R she gets 100 degree fever she you know and

[2:57:18] she if she's throwing up or if she broke something that's fine but they know you

[2:57:23] know they just call you know because they can't handle the capacity of children that they're dealing with on a

[2:57:30] daily basis in school and Zoe is like the hardest one but we're dealing

[2:57:36] with 8500 students and we want to take away their nursing care no I think

[2:57:43] that's wrong with everything that we've gone through with covid these these people are beloved in our community and

[2:57:51] we need more of that in addition you know keep our Paris there they do so

[2:57:57] much the unified program does so much and I appreciate everyone's time and

[2:58:03] their commitment to our schools and our community um Miss Linton can you wrap up

[2:58:08] your comments thank you thank you very much thank you thank you for coming Zoe

[2:58:13] yes is um Laura lucens here excuse me oh I was calling someone

[2:58:21] else up oh I'm sorry I thought you I'm like no no let me move from

[2:58:26] here you're all good thank you um is uh

[2:58:32] Ben

[2:58:42] wellborne thank you for your time time I really appreciate everyone staying here

[2:58:47] so my name is Ben walbourne I'm a proud graduate from the class of 2020 I have a disability what does that mean it means

[2:58:54] there are some portions of my life where I need guidance to accomplish what most of you could do without help imagine what that feels like

[2:59:01] imagine a fear of entering School daily wondering what would be asked of you and what the other kids think of you who is

[2:59:08] your Advocate who is there to help you navigate challenges I have never let me let my

[2:59:14] dis ability Define who I am I use it as motivation to achieve my goals I am

[2:59:19] successful because I refuse to fail and do not use excuses just because something is hard I will graduate on

[2:59:25] time in May with a bachelor's degree having attended Rock Cher Institute of Technology in New York and the

[2:59:31] University of Minnesota where I currently play trumpet in a marching in pet band I graduate with distinction having

[2:59:37] earned a 3.75 GPA I weighed 1.7 PBS at Birth am heart

[2:59:42] of hearing and am neur diverse why am I successful I had the benefit of be D at step and heart

[2:59:49] hearing professionals they stood in front of me beside me and finally beside me for 10

[2:59:55] years they taught me how to navigate education the world and life in general they supported me they did not let me

[3:00:01] make excusive for myself they taught me how to advocate for myself they taught me how to achieve their value cannot be

[3:00:07] measured at a line on him in a budget you must walk in my shoes to truly understand most of you will never have

[3:00:14] to please do not cut or reduce this program in any way it is why I am

[3:00:20] successful who I am today and what put me on the path to where I will go next I am here today to stand up for the

[3:00:26] students like me who will have the services diminished I am standing up for those who have not yet but will walk

[3:00:31] into a din schools and face of fears I have already conquered when it comes to your budget I ask no more of you than I

[3:00:36] asked of myself do not fail do not make excuses because something is hard use as

[3:00:42] motivation to do what you know to be right vote for option A1 thank

[3:00:47] you thank you um Melanie

[3:00:56] [Music] puser okay hi

[3:01:03] everybody my name is Melanie piter and I am a parent of three children two

[3:01:09] graduates recent graduates and one eighth grader at South View um I'm also a Community member and um also a 30-year

[3:01:17] teacher oh Edie D high school I'm here to just discuss my passion for my job in

[3:01:23] students at Idina High School in particular with Developmental and adapted physical

[3:01:30] education um yay sorry um we recently I just wanted to share

[3:01:37] that I know that you're voting on reductions and um as a physical

[3:01:43] education teacher te and somebody who teaches unified physical education in the district I think it is a critical

[3:01:49] course in developmental adaptive physical education teachers are amazing in our district we currently don't have

[3:01:56] any openings in a job so if we're making Cuts we're actually cutting staff and

[3:02:02] I'm afraid of services being cut for students um we've just celebrated South

[3:02:08] viws unified program last week and I teach three classes of unified PE with

[3:02:13] our adapted physical education teacher and I see amazing things with our students and connections that are

[3:02:21] made me too thank you um I wanted to share at the end of the semester I've

[3:02:28] taught this class for five years and at the end of the semester I give um course um Reflections to students and

[3:02:36] just a couple students Reflections come back to this class has been very impactful for me it's changed my my my

[3:02:43] viewpoint of the world and how I feel unified PE everyone in this course

[3:02:49] comes out better more kind patient and encouraging of each other and another

[3:02:55] student says it built friendships that without this class we would have never had all I'm asking you tonight is to

[3:03:02] really think about when you're making these Cuts we don't have a current opening I believe the programming of our

[3:03:09] district in developmental adapted physical education is amazing and I just want to continue to see our students

[3:03:16] Thrive your job is very difficult I don't envy the decisions you're going to make be making but I just ask you to

[3:03:23] really consider all students and um those connections that are made

[3:03:29] especially in unified PE or adapted physical education sidebar I'm a parent and uh

[3:03:36] the media specialist have been amazing for my students growing up in Idina so thank you to all these people that are

[3:03:42] here tonight and thank you for serving because I know this is an easy job thank you thank you very

[3:03:49] much uh John

[3:03:57] wellborne thank you um not going to do my speech um I filled up your inboxes

[3:04:03] for the last two weeks you know where I stand um the last work session that you

[3:04:09] all had it was very clear to anyone watching that none of you are comfortable with the options on the

[3:04:14] table that you have to decide they are horrific life-changing decisions for students for teachers for yourselves for

[3:04:22] parents all of it and we get it and we see it but I want to give you a thought

[3:04:27] I want you to think about that option A1 is the one option that buys you

[3:04:34] time but what you do with that time is what's important I would like you all to

[3:04:40] select A1 but I would also like like you to pledge tonight that you will form a

[3:04:47] board level committee with students teachers

[3:04:54] administrators parents the union and spend the 24 months that

[3:05:00] you're buying by selecting A1 to study the

[3:05:06] district look for the efficiencies look for the ways to enhance Revenue make make sure that if

[3:05:14] you have to make Cuts they are the right cuts and most importantly what you do

[3:05:21] not have today if you select option A is a plan to mitigate the risk of

[3:05:29] those cuts you don't have a plan and that's scary that you could

[3:05:36] take away Services when all you have is possibilities so buy yourself the time

[3:05:43] but then use the time to figure out the right way to do it and you're going to give yourself 24

[3:05:50] months to do that thank you thank you Mr wellborne um that

[3:05:56] concludes our um respect request to speak tonight um we are going to now

[3:06:02] move on to our consent agenda is there anything anyone would like to remove from the consent agenda uh do I have a motion to approve

[3:06:09] the consent agenda so move is a second second we

[3:06:15] will now vote to approve the consent agenda all those in favor say I I anyone

[3:06:20] opposed um the consent agenda has been approved um as noted earlier we're going

[3:06:25] to um not do our discussion items for tonight um and I forgot to put this as

[3:06:33] part of our motion um but we do not have the Community member here to talk about

[3:06:38] our American Indian education program so that is going to um have to be removed from from the agenda tonight so my

[3:06:44] apologies for forgetting to put this as part of the um of part of what is going to be

[3:06:51] removed from the agenda tonight um we are going to move on to discussing our

[3:06:57] Cost Containment recommendations um normally if people have seen our um board meetings we do a motion to approve

[3:07:04] something and then we discuss it um however because we have [Music]

[3:07:11] um because we have um we don't have a very specific item that we're voting on

[3:07:17] um we are going to have a discussion first and then we're going to make a

[3:07:22] motion um once we have um once board members are able to ask questions and

[3:07:29] seek whatever information they feel they need to make a final decision um when it's clear what direction the majority

[3:07:35] of board is um comfortable voting on then I will ask for a motion for the specific Cost Containment recommendation

[3:07:42] um that we will be voting on um before we move on to um board members um Dr

[3:07:49] Stanley um do you have anything you would like to

[3:07:56] say yes you know I want to say that I realize that the board

[3:08:03] has really tough choices um in front of them tonight and I want the community to

[3:08:10] know as a superintendent and as a Cabinet team we struggled very

[3:08:16] hard looked at everything that we could in

[3:08:22] order to find areas as we developed the administrative

[3:08:28] proposal we sought to have the bulk of the containment as much as we

[3:08:33] could fall within non promatic area programmatic

[3:08:39] areas and we did our best at meeting that and at about 60% of the recommended

[3:08:45] $3.62 million that 60% level is under each

[3:08:53] option that is before you today districts around the state are struggling with budgetary

[3:09:00] restrictions and concerns and today the association for metropolitan school districts or amsd announced that more

[3:09:08] than 70% of the amsd districts have a projected budget short fall for the 24

[3:09:16] 25 school year totaling more than $300 million

[3:09:21] collectively and this includes many of our neighboring districts as

[3:09:28] well this is not intended to be a misery loves company

[3:09:34] introduction it is just intended to continue to help increase an

[3:09:39] understanding of where we are situated at with funding in the greater metro area and in the

[3:09:46] context of the state with finances for school

[3:09:55] districts I'll leave it at that thank you Dr Stanley um director

[3:10:01] Woodard are you going to join

[3:10:10] us and do you have information that you would like to go through before um the board

[3:10:18] discusses good evening Madam chair members of the school board um no further information to add just um a

[3:10:24] little bit of clarity for those who still may be watching um the administration ATS December 11th regular

[3:10:29] meeting um notified the school board that it was facing a about a $3.62 million budget gap for next school year

[3:10:35] which would leave us below the board minimum unassigned fund balance of 6% um despite the fact that the district

[3:10:41] received historic funding at the 2023 legislative session um nearly all of those funds were deployed immediately to

[3:10:48] salaries and benefits for um staff throughout the district this school year causing the gap for next school year and

[3:10:53] each subsequent school year um we engaged our budget reduction reallocation Revenue generation process

[3:10:59] which involved um seven different Community meetings six board meetings um several different surveys um which we

[3:11:05] used to gather feedback and and guide our um recommendations that have been made to the school board three options

[3:11:12] um had been presented we're down to two tonight the district's recommendation remains option A and it has since the

[3:11:18] beginning and now option A1 is also before you for consideration which um rose out of the February 20th work

[3:11:24] session um with that the I guess the recommended action is before you thank

[3:11:30] you director Woodard um the first thing I'll ask board members if is um what questions or clarifying information that

[3:11:37] they need before we move into discussion about um the agenda items so an

[3:11:45] opportunity to ask any additional questions you might have um or if you need any clarification on anything

[3:11:51] before we Dr gabler sure

[3:11:57] um I am still having a little bit

[3:12:02] of ambiguity on some of the specifics on this um some of the items that are still

[3:12:09] well if we look at A1 um and so I'm wondering

[3:12:14] if when we look at A1 if when the remaining

[3:12:22] $150,000 of the student Support Services budget um if I go back to our board

[3:12:29] packet and we see that it

[3:12:34] says uh I believe we learned at our work session last week that um with the 150

[3:12:43] the dhh teacher and the 504 coordinator come off of that list but is is that

[3:12:50] correct uh that's correct I would also like to point out that that 504 coordinator position is currently um

[3:12:55] almost virtually unfilled so okay um when I look at the remaining

[3:13:02] items on the list occupational therapy psychology developmental adaptive

[3:13:07] physical education um can you give me an idea

[3:13:13] of what that will look like because as a board member um we have a strategic plan

[3:13:19] that we're trying to fulfill and if I am voting on Cuts tonight I would like to

[3:13:27] better understand what that looks like in the services that we're providing for

[3:13:33] our students so if if there's any clarity thank you doc director ring yeah so um the0 five school psychologist

[3:13:40] position was one that we were unable to fulfill this year and so we currently do not have anyone working in that role so

[3:13:46] um what that would look like for next year is we would um we currently have a 1.0 school psychologist that is helping

[3:13:52] out at Early Childhood um and we have other people that help out and so what we would do is it would just be 05

[3:13:57] probably non-public .5 Early Childhood so we're getting the work done this year we would continue to get the work done

[3:14:04] without it no one's in that position no one would be let go okay and then we

[3:14:09] have a um a0 five um posting that went up for adaptive fied um this fall we

[3:14:15] were unable to fill that position um and so we had teachers that were working through their prep getting additional

[3:14:21] pay things like that this um we've been able to recently fill that position we hired for a 04 instead of a 0.5 and so

[3:14:29] the 0.1 would just remain unfilled and go towards a budget reduction so that position would be a

[3:14:36] 0.1 a 0.1 yes yep and then um the OT

[3:14:41] position we had been occupational therapist who um took a leave um and

[3:14:47] returned and no longer desired to be full-time and so this person has been working at a08 and does not desire that 02 portion

[3:14:55] of their employment back and they're able to complete their work and so that is the way those positions um would be

[3:15:02] that's what they would look like next year thank you that is really helpful for me to better understand what that

[3:15:08] would look like um so point one for adap ified 02 for OT and 0.5 for

[3:15:18] psychologist that's what's still on the table okay um thank you for that clarification um if I may ask a similar

[3:15:26] question and this would not be for you um the licensed media specialist in option A1 it's a

[3:15:34] 1.5 and in option A it's a 4.5 um Can similar to the question that

[3:15:41] director REM just answered can you explain what that would look

[3:15:51] like director Monas daily are you able to come into the

[3:16:11] boardroom I can I ask a follow-up question to

[3:16:17] director reming sorry Jody that you left but you don't have to come up it's just I don't know in general it's just um how

[3:16:23] does the current Staffing compared to like previous years are we running light

[3:16:30] now or are we at what historic levels have been or um that type of thing to

[3:16:36] the positions the school psychologist occupational th our numbers in special education especially in early childhood

[3:16:43] they're they're historical numbers we do have high numbers in early childhood of students that are being evaluated it's

[3:16:49] been a trend that's been existing ever since Co and so that continues thank

[3:16:58] you thank you for joining us a little winded that seems to be the theme we've

[3:17:04] had a couple winded people speak to us this evening um thank you director monest daily um so one of my questions

[3:17:11] that I had was when it came was looking at the licensed media specialist and in

[3:17:16] option A there is a recommendation to to

[3:17:21] reduce 4.5 full-time Educators correct in option A1 the option is to reduce by 1.5

[3:17:32] FTE can you kind of help me understand kind of what some of the thought process

[3:17:38] is of what that would look like like what does 4.5 look like what does 1.5

[3:17:43] look like um yeah I can do my best I think it's a tough DEC a tough thing to

[3:17:49] Envision right because we've been working through these potential scenarios and what they might look like and it's been pretty fluid um what we do

[3:17:56] know with um 4.5 I think we can presumably say that that would be a shared um situation shared buildings who

[3:18:04] would be at what building that I can't answer at this point or what that exactly look like but if you think 4.5

[3:18:09] that would presumably be shared um if we look at 7.5 um so cutting reducing by 1.5 um if

[3:18:17] I'm being real honest with you I don't know what that would look like um I think what we would need to do if that is the recommendation of the board is to

[3:18:24] sit down and figure out how do we best maximize that support and coverage across the district so that we can

[3:18:29] ensure that students are getting um media programming the best way possible may I ask a clarifying question so

[3:18:37] instead of it being specific to a 1.5 FTE meaning it's actually the people

[3:18:42] if you take the dollar amount that 1.5 represents which is what we're trying to do in terms of the reduction in cost

[3:18:49] could you envision a scenario as you go to figure that out that the actual number of Staff might look different

[3:18:54] than just 1.5 a loss of 1.5 it could be spread over the entire team it could be

[3:19:00] a number of different Avenues rather than it being specifically 1.5 human beings that are

[3:19:06] actually cut from the the the program yeah there are certainly different scenarios that are possible of that what

[3:19:12] we know is that right we're getting to that dollar Mal that equals 7.5 and what

[3:19:17] how do we disperse that across the buildings is something we'd have to sit down and look out yeah I just want to make sure it wasn't arbitrary like we

[3:19:23] weren't arbitrarily saying You must cut 1.5 people it's this is the dollar amount that we're reducing this particular budget item for and then

[3:19:30] figure out through the process how to make how to meet that yeah and I mean it certainly comes with its own challenges

[3:19:36] to figure out what that looks like and you know who wants what what point of a position at that point um and 7.5 is a

[3:19:43] different number than obviously 4.5 so we'd have to spend some time looking at that en visioning that out through the spring great thank

[3:19:50] you and to follow up with that for my understanding um are those discussions

[3:19:57] that take place after this evening are those like to director Birdman's comment

[3:20:02] of 200 thou or what are we now cutting for that 200,000 in the licensed nurse

[3:20:07] or in the media specialist um 17 thank you um would that be a conversation that

[3:20:15] would happen solely at the cabinet Administration level or would that be a

[3:20:22] conversation that we would bring in the media Specialists and have that conversation of like okay

[3:20:29] we've got $200,000 where are some of those cuts and maybe it is 1.5 people but maybe

[3:20:35] it's we're restructuring things for the process uh well so what I

[3:20:42] can say um is if we're going to whatever the cut is at the end of the day or whatever the reduction is at the end of

[3:20:47] the day we will certainly be in conversation with our media specialist for what that looks like to Vision that program moving forward um and to plan

[3:20:54] and prepare for the next school year are there questions or information

[3:21:03] that board members need no like if you have more questions

[3:21:09] you can ask them um so I would ask board members to um

[3:21:15] provide um feedback on um what they are interested in doing from a Cost

[3:21:21] Containment perspective um and so we can come to some sort of consensus or at

[3:21:28] least a um majority of the board can come to a consensus um so then we can um

[3:21:35] reach a specific uh um item that we can vote on um and

[3:21:41] whoever wants to go first can I'm sure no one actually wants to but um I would ask someone um to lead us lead us off

[3:21:48] into a discussion about um their feelings from a Cost Containment

[3:21:57] perspective alphabetical director arum um from my

[3:22:03] standpoint um I I can't support um a at

[3:22:08] this option A at this time I think that I would like to look at A1 as the my preferred um uh option I think that I

[3:22:17] would think that um although I don't like the um Capital note option I know

[3:22:23] it's an option and I feel that that is a reasonable option for us to kind of go and um use that time window that um one

[3:22:30] of the community members said about buying time um it will help us with some of the other additional pieces I feel

[3:22:35] that um there are areas that we can look at in terms of I still am not clear on

[3:22:42] the the allocation of tech Levy versus um versus Media specialty pieces of it

[3:22:49] and what that front-end piece of um services that might be a difference

[3:22:54] between the current media specialist role and and whatnot so I those types of

[3:22:59] things I think are are kind of due process in terms of um the uh potential

[3:23:05] changes and reductions in programming that we had talked about um just now so that's where I feel that that that's

[3:23:11] there I'm a little concerned with the cuts to student support um pieces of it

[3:23:16] just because of the increasing numbers of um special education resources that the district has but um again I I trust

[3:23:23] in the um cabinet Administration that um they would find a a reasonable way to address those situations and feel that

[3:23:30] A1 gives us that time to kind of meet that as well thank you director

[3:23:37] arum did we just go right down the line sure or alphabetical I think you

[3:23:44] anyway um I am also leaning towards a one um

[3:23:51] even though in two years it's possible we are right back here making Cuts

[3:23:57] because that seems to be the annual thing that we do in the world of public

[3:24:02] school financing is as make cuts um I think that the two years that it would

[3:24:09] buy us of having our kids receive these resources and services are

[3:24:16] invaluable um so I would like to have that time to um Advocate um I would really love

[3:24:25] for everyone who sent us emails and we read those emails to share their stories

[3:24:31] with our legislators and our state senators and our federal legislators as well as we talk about the cross subsidy

[3:24:36] and um the nursing issues if you've got a child who needs nursing care to participate in

[3:24:44] a free and appropriate public education then they need to hear about that too um so we

[3:24:49] need a lot more people to get on board with um getting loud for advocating for

[3:24:55] our resources um

[3:25:00] and also use the time to explore we talked about busing as a possible Revenue Source um I would like to think

[3:25:07] that through thoroughly before we um

[3:25:12] would explore any any deeper

[3:25:20] Cuts director caer um thank you I want to thank our

[3:25:29] cabinet members and our um for walking us through this for the last several

[3:25:35] meetings and working with us on this um I know this is not easy for you either

[3:25:41] um um I like my previous two colleagues am uh in favor of A1 I understand the

[3:25:52] state funding I understand the funding needs of our district um I understand the capital

[3:25:58] notes I repeat what director arum said in terms of I need to better understand

[3:26:05] that the capital Levy what we call the tech Levy um I have a person personal

[3:26:11] connection to that one because I was one of the co-chairs of it and I I have I

[3:26:18] feel like I need to better understand how we're funding our um

[3:26:24] media Specialists through that so um I also agree with director Barry that

[3:26:32] we have it is very obvious that this community cares for their schools um we

[3:26:39] have received so many well-crafted emails and um I I hope our teachers have

[3:26:46] received some of those emails because the stories that we've had the opportunity to hear about you and how

[3:26:52] you are shaping lives every day it's really something and so I agree

[3:26:59] with director Barry please don't stop with us we are confined by the money that we receive from the state we need

[3:27:05] you to go keep going further talk to your legislators request that they are

[3:27:11] demand that they are funding at a full level um director Woodard has a graph that he shows often it's on our website

[3:27:18] and it shows the big gap between uh inflation and funding for schools and so

[3:27:24] we are we're going to continue to have this problem if we don't fix public education

[3:27:30] funding um and I think I will stop

[3:27:35] there thank you director gaer um I I um I support option A1 I think

[3:27:45] that it allows us to accomplish what we need to mostly

[3:27:50] from a Cost Containment perspective but allows us time to explore other possibilities from a revenue generation

[3:27:57] perspective it allows us to um evaluate other Cost Containment

[3:28:02] strategies um and other Financial levers that could potentially be available in the future that aren't available to us

[3:28:09] right now um I want to acknowledge our administrators

[3:28:16] um as Karen with do director gaer said this is not easy um and I appreciate

[3:28:21] everything that you guys have done um it's super important work I also want to acknowledge staff that is affected by

[3:28:28] this um it's not pleasant for any any of

[3:28:34] us um I in supporting Awan I think it's

[3:28:40] very very important for the community to understand that if this is approved it

[3:28:46] does not mean that we don't have to make Cuts or do Cost Containment this is

[3:28:51] allowing us more time to do evaluation and still ensure the fiscal Integrity of

[3:28:58] our district and that we're able to keep our fund balance we are still being left with an

[3:29:04] operating um model and operating costs that are more than we can afford um so I

[3:29:12] just want to make the community aware that um this is not a silver bullet to

[3:29:18] [Music] um uh continue with expenses this is

[3:29:23] giving us evaluation time um which is more work on all of us but I think it's

[3:29:30] important work and so I um I I just think I would be remiss if I did not um

[3:29:37] mention that um but um in in conclusion to not being

[3:29:43] long-winded I do um support option

[3:29:50] A1 um well I guess I'm going to be a little bit long-winded if that's okay but if you'll indulge me a little bit um

[3:29:56] what's five more minutes um in option A we are dealing with a revenue problem we

[3:30:02] do not have the revenue to match what we can and want to deliver as a school district we've tried our best over several years to maintain Staffing

[3:30:08] ratios particularly in our school nursing staff and media specialist staff that schools around us have already had to modify in our current sta situation

[3:30:15] our staffing ratios aren't sustainable with our budget I contacted several districts around us to see what their Staffing ratios look like and see what

[3:30:21] the marketpl place looks like many have already made these difficult decisions before us I say that not as a this is a

[3:30:27] good thing forward look we look what we can do um but it's an example of this is the harsh reality of public education in

[3:30:33] 2024 I wish and I know all of us on the board wish we could keep all of our staff our media specialist staff our

[3:30:40] nursing staff ratios completely unchanged and not make any Cuts unfortunately that is the real not the reality before us we have to cut our

[3:30:46] budget and we need to be crystal clear and honest about that the school industry has changed I think media

[3:30:52] Specialists and School nurses are incred incredibly important parts of a positive School culture we have media Specialists

[3:30:57] who stayed through this whole meeting already um these proposed Cuts in no way should diminish or demean the importance

[3:31:03] of your work with our students and our children I've known some of these people in this impacted groups in these impacted groups for decades they're not

[3:31:10] numbers on a spreadsheet to us these are faces that we know people with who we share our memories Educators who have

[3:31:15] helped our children I know we all feel horrible looking at these Cuts but we can't sit here and misrepresent our budget situation I think we owe that to

[3:31:22] you all um looking at A1 I think it's really it's clear to

[3:31:29] note that this method was not recommended by our recommend by our Administration and it's been proposed as a way to give us a path ahead with

[3:31:35] smaller Cuts now potentially to provide us with an on-ramp for two years to discover inefficiencies new revenue

[3:31:40] streams or hope for another round of educational investment from the state legislature if we are unable to find a

[3:31:46] solution in those terms we will return to this table in two years and not only make the same Cuts but potentially much deeper ones I personally do not believe

[3:31:52] we'll be able to solve those those problems in two years going the road of the capital note could very well result in deeper Cuts in two years these Cuts

[3:31:59] we are looking at now already came after a full year of review research and discussion so if we go the A1 route okay

[3:32:06] let's talk about fees revenue and state funding I think it's important to State I don't think we can fee our way out of this

[3:32:11] in A1 there's an $800,000 shortfall we need to cover with the capital note so let's use a recent example as a board we

[3:32:17] briefly discussed uh new transportation fee model in which every child in the district would be charged $350 to ride

[3:32:23] the school bus now some school districts charge families who live a couple blocks away a fee if they want to take a bus

[3:32:28] this model we discussed would charge everyone within two miles away from their school the number floated looked

[3:32:33] very similar to that $800,000 figure but once we kind of carved away it didn't even come close to maybe a quarter of

[3:32:40] what we needed it didn't include students on free introduced lunch it didn't have a family cap it didn't forecast possible opt outs it didn't

[3:32:47] discuss negative outcomes for students and families and last of all it failed to deliver any context to the public school environment that fee structure We

[3:32:53] Believe would be the highest in the state for school for student busing for example minaka Public Schools

[3:32:59] is one of the few around us that charges students they charge $100 per Rider with a $200 family cap if we apply just that

[3:33:04] $100 fee to D to our originally floated number that we're talking about without a family cap without talk taking into

[3:33:09] account those other factors the figure had already dropped to $273,000 it would go down another 20% right off the top if we include our free

[3:33:16] introduced lunch students a family cap and opt outs would surely drop it again this model could cause undue issues in

[3:33:22] terms of equity and school efficiency and like I said it wouldn't fill even a quarter of what we would need and this would be a pretty big new fee that we

[3:33:29] could bring in um in doing that homework I spoke to officials from minono public schools and their most most recent year

[3:33:34] of data and they're a bigger District than us they counted revenue of $240,000 the biggest efficiency in their pay

[3:33:39] model and their words was not even necessarily from the revenue generated it was from not having as many bus routes due to opt outs so if we simplify

[3:33:46] that the efficiency was from cutting buff bus routes it wasn't from revenue it was from cutting now in terms of

[3:33:52] finding we heard a lot about how we could find donations to subsidize programming in our emails and different

[3:33:58] comments and we can't rely on one-time donations for annual salary costs dumping more responsibility on groups

[3:34:04] like The education fund is not only not realistic it's disrespect disrespectful to the incredible donations and the

[3:34:09] impact they already make in our district they donate about half a million dollars already to our district and I know people said the public would be willing

[3:34:15] to donate more but we knowingly had Cuts coming for a year and donations did not increase I bring all this up to say our

[3:34:22] District administration here now and before all of us were here have been looking for efficiencies for more than a

[3:34:27] decade I have been following researching investigating school districts myself and the state legislature for more than 15 years and these are sadly not new

[3:34:34] conversations many of you have had these same conversations as well since we open the door to A1 on the capital note I'm

[3:34:40] willing to ENT entertain that option and I want to be hopeful but only under the clear implication that in two years we

[3:34:45] will likely be making deeper more impactful budget cuts I'm hopeful we can find Solutions but this is history

[3:34:51] repeating itself a bit we are lucky and that we are currently rep represented by state legislatur state legislators who

[3:34:58] understand the value of public school funding and support it with their votes in St Paul unfortunately the legislature has just about as many officials who do

[3:35:04] not feel that way I'm not willing to bet another large jump in state funding in these next two years represent

[3:35:10] referencing director Woodard the graph we need sustained years of consistent funding I'm not willing to bet on a

[3:35:15] revenue Source popping up in two years that the entire Public School industry is not yet discovered I'm dubious that

[3:35:20] we can charge additional fees to our school population that we're already raising this through this round to cover the shortfall particularly when we're

[3:35:27] already asking these same families to donate to their PTO pro programs their Sports and music programs and pay our

[3:35:32] voter approved levies the best option forward in respect to A1 in my humble opinion would be to also at some point

[3:35:38] increase our Capital Le Levy and potentially correct some issues that might have been made last time in terms of making statements about who and what

[3:35:43] could be covered in that Levy which also came up at at certain times I can support A1 but only if we as a board are

[3:35:49] truly honest with our teachers our parents and our greater community that by doing so we will likely have larger cuts down the road I don't want to give

[3:35:55] false hope we can take two more two more years but we just took a year and we ended up here as a district we have been

[3:36:01] having these discussions for more than a decade finding inefficiencies generally means making Staffing Cuts we need to be

[3:36:07] crystal clear about the great potential for future Cuts we owe that at the very least to our staff in that case if we

[3:36:13] recognize these issues before us and the possible impact I can support A1 but thanks for listening and for me epic for

[3:36:19] that long but so thank you for your commentary I guess I'm not necessarily convinced that

[3:36:26] this may means larger cuts it means different cuts and I think that your

[3:36:35] note about the capital Levy those are mechanisms that we

[3:36:41] that's the exact idea of a mechanism to utilize to avoid some of those cuts I

[3:36:47] mean that's a huge thing that we can leverage along with our ability to increase our local

[3:36:54] Levy that need to be explored so I don't think that I actually think it would be

[3:37:01] disingenuous to say doing A1 is a path to larger

[3:37:07] Cuts can respond of course I I would just say that's why we're here well director Woodard each year as our our

[3:37:15] expenses go up correct or is that wrong so every year we keep that same budget

[3:37:22] it's going to keep continuing to go up but if can I ask you if

[3:37:28] we go with A1 would our Cuts conceivably increase if we were unable to find

[3:37:35] Funding Solutions for that $800,000 yeah so director man you're correct uh um the historically and

[3:37:43] presently the way uh revenues grow in the state of Minnesota um it lags behind expenditure growth there's there's no

[3:37:49] other way to to to to to speak about that phenomenon it's ongoing um for

[3:37:55] example one one% increase to salaries and wages in the school district is about $1.2 million a 1% increase on the

[3:38:02] general education form is about $700,000 um so the the two sides of the

[3:38:07] scale are never going to be equal thanks I mean I just want I I'm fine

[3:38:13] with going with they want I just want to be clear to people that in two years I don't want us I don't I don't want

[3:38:19] people to have like a false hope like we saved the day and everything was great um we still have work to do I guess is

[3:38:26] my that for sure Jenner

[3:38:35] Michael well I have to follow Elliot um

[3:38:41] well said and I have um some reservations about

[3:38:49] A1 and that future me may not like present me in the future

[3:38:57] um understanding that the $800,000 that's sitting there today is going to

[3:39:02] grow based on what director wooded was just

[3:39:08] saying and I don't think there 's a magic fix for this it's not an easy

[3:39:15] solution or we'd have one I do think there are

[3:39:20] some possibilities with some of the things that have been mentioned already

[3:39:25] tonight and I would like the opportunity to explore those I'm in support of

[3:39:33] A1 and I do want people to realize that when we talk

[3:39:41] about efficiencies as it's has been said that that is not using different kind of

[3:39:47] copy paper that might be a little cheaper those efficiencies typically are

[3:39:53] positions or other things that are impactful

[3:39:59] so I would like the time and agree that if

[3:40:07] we're going to go down A1 that we need to be thoughtful

[3:40:13] and not sit here for two years and then scramble but have a plan and and really

[3:40:21] look at what are the options and I agree

[3:40:27] revenue from fees and other things just doesn't seem like a

[3:40:33] realistic path to cover everything so I I will support

[3:40:39] A1 thank you director huie director

[3:40:47] Birdman so the lot has been said um all of it pretty spot-on in terms of where

[3:40:53] we sit today um the decisions that are before us where we sit in the structural deficits that are ongoing in public

[3:41:00] education um I think that the plans that are before us are doing their best to

[3:41:07] try to articulate what those challenges are and what our limited choices are given the time that we've had since the

[3:41:13] budget came out from the state in the summer of

[3:41:19] 23 I think that regardless of which way we go we have a fundamental challenge

[3:41:24] before us to figure out how our operating model that we are so proud of

[3:41:31] and has produced such wonderful results and that we have heard from our wonderful staff our wonderful parents of

[3:41:37] students our wonderful parents of former students alumni um as well as our

[3:41:44] Administration um that's what defines our Excellence so we've been able to find a

[3:41:50] way up until now to do that what we're stressing out about is

[3:41:57] we can't maintain it given the financial model that currently funds

[3:42:05] us that's our reality and so I take

[3:42:12] great um energy from the the community and the staff who say that we want to

[3:42:18] come together and figure out how we can find a way to have our model while at

[3:42:23] the same time making our finances actually balance I love it this is the most

[3:42:29] engaged I've seen this community since I joined the board in January of

[3:42:35] 2022 it's really terrible that we are only at this point of engagement when

[3:42:40] it's coming to this type of stuff but as much as we have to stay engaged and just as much as our

[3:42:46] Administration is always engaged on this it requires all of us all the

[3:42:52] stakeholders to remain engaged to figure out how we're going to move forward and

[3:42:57] I believe people are articulated I have all the hundred emails that show people are committed to doing that but actions

[3:43:03] got to prove it we're having to take an action tonight because we have to

[3:43:10] not because we want to but we need the actions of everyone involved to figure out how we're going

[3:43:15] to make that happen and you at least have my commitment that I will be championing that okay we should all be

[3:43:21] willing to put our money where our mouth is so everyone who's written in everyone

[3:43:27] who cares about this it's not what we do tonight it's what we're going to do starting tomorrow and the day after and the month

[3:43:34] after and the nine months after and the 12 months after that matter

[3:43:40] so regardless of whether we turn out to be correct in this decision tonight or whether it turns out wow it didn't play

[3:43:46] out the way Elliott was just saying and we actually didn't quite come up with the goods and we're going to have to even have more considerable Cost

[3:43:54] Containment one thing I would warn everyone I'll go one step further we said two

[3:43:59] years director Woodard mentioned when we talked about the at the special meeting on Thursday we've talked about it before

[3:44:05] we're hoping that this will get us two more years I'll tell you right now I don't believe that to be

[3:44:11] true I think if we're lucky we'll get 12 months we'll get the 25 budget but when

[3:44:16] we get to the 26 budget I don't think you can say with 100% confidence given all the variables

[3:44:23] that are in play that that something else couldn't happen and that's not because of

[3:44:28] mismanagement or inefficiencies or anything like that it's just the factor of how public schools are

[3:44:36] funded and so I want us to be all cognizant of we shouldn't be planing on a two-year plan we need to have a very

[3:44:42] dedicated and engaged process in this next 9 to 12 months so by the time we get here next year when we have to do

[3:44:48] the 26 budget we already have all the ideas and all the priorities in our mind

[3:44:55] that we've mapped out and then we can execute on because what I know what I've read and what I've talked about with my

[3:45:01] colleagues here I talked about with the administration I've talked about on the finance committee does everyone have the

[3:45:06] exact same priorities for you of public schools and this answer is it's not a bad one

[3:45:14] no some people think this is the priority some people think this is the priority some people think this is the

[3:45:20] priority none of them are wrong that's their take on what the priorities are

[3:45:26] our job and the administration's job is to figure out what actually are our priorities and we have to put our money

[3:45:31] where our mouth is so that's where we are tonight so as

[3:45:36] we move forward and make this action happen which is coming here in just a minute minute I'm happy to make the motion to do it is that I need people to

[3:45:44] be grounded in that's what we're dealing with going forward and anyone who walks

[3:45:49] out here tonight or watches this video or reads about this in the suncurrent or maybe never see it in the suncurrent I

[3:45:54] don't know that reality is still here and so I'd ask us to keep that in mind

[3:46:01] so we're fools if we go ahead with A1 and the capital notes and we do not then

[3:46:07] figure out as a collective how we're going to work on our operating model to make it

[3:46:16] work so that's my advice tonight I hope we follow

[3:46:22] that and with that being said unless there's any other comments I would make a motion to approve option A1

[3:46:30] tonight and continue to look at how we build a further process with all

[3:46:35] stakeholders as to how we're going to find our path forward Beyond

[3:46:41] 2025 second um before we go to vote um I

[3:46:48] actually did have a couple more comments my apologies that's okay that's okay um

[3:46:54] so um I wrote them down so I apologies is for the lack of um eye contact um but

[3:47:03] uh personally um I've said this multiple times this is the seventh year in a row

[3:47:08] that um I've had to make budget cuts um

[3:47:16] and personally it's it's not just difficult it can be

[3:47:21] feel very um

[3:47:28] sorry sorry I'm not even an emotional person um it can feel very defeating to

[3:47:34] be faced with these Cuts year after year

[3:47:41] um when you care so much about our district and the people that work

[3:47:46] here and have very few tools to do much about

[3:47:52] it um but if you're watching and you care as much as I do

[3:47:58] which I know most of you do um I would like to urge people

[3:48:05] listening to continue to communicate not just with our legisl but all state legislators and our

[3:48:12] federal legislators to encourage sustainable basic education

[3:48:19] funding um if you're able please consider donating to the Dina education

[3:48:24] fund any DIN give and go the Idina education fund absolutely helps us from

[3:48:30] a budgetary perspective it's been critical in paying for our literacy

[3:48:35] training that many districts are now in a quandry trying to figure figure out how to pay for

[3:48:40] it um so please consider doing that um I'd like

[3:48:47] to ask individuals that work for or know individuals and companies in the area

[3:48:53] and I know there are a lot of you guys um that quality Public Schools

[3:48:58] absolutely benefit your ability to recruit and retain employees and public schools are

[3:49:04] educating your next generation of workers the male clinic just donated $10

[3:49:10] million to Rochester Public Schools to help with their budgetary for shortfall

[3:49:16] help us as a public school system help you um I do before we vote want to leave

[3:49:24] on a positive note um as director Birman alluded to and director gaer I believe

[3:49:29] we've received so many emails over the past few weeks um addressing budget cuts and they

[3:49:37] to me were great remind reminder of how amazing and outstanding our school district is and

[3:49:45] why we want to keep it that way so I want to urge all of our stakeholders and residents to remember

[3:49:52] some of this information when you hear rumors about the quality of Edina Public Schools

[3:50:00] declining and I did get permission before saying this we heard from the lead of music education at St Ola

[3:50:08] College who told us that she encourages her most capable St Olaf music education

[3:50:15] graduates to consider and accept offers to teach in Edina schools because of

[3:50:21] Edina school's reputation for excellence and the district's commitment to music for all students as

[3:50:27] essential onlya we heard from a family who used to live in another Community who has a

[3:50:33] child with a reare rare disease who said his pediatrician told them if it was their child

[3:50:40] he would move to Aina he said that their the level of support they receive in Aina would Aid their child through their

[3:50:46] entire experience from preschool to high school and that it would be unparalleled in the

[3:50:53] state we're one of the few districts in the state that has a licensed media specialist at each

[3:50:59] School these are things when we talk about whole child and a well-rounded

[3:51:06] experience is the definition of Excellence I would re be remissed not to mention we

[3:51:12] have 204 State athletic championships we are the only Middle

[3:51:18] School in the entire state that is a certified Special Olympics Champion school and less people accuse me of not

[3:51:27] caring about our academics we have been rated the best College Prep High School in the state

[3:51:32] for the last 5 years or so that level of holistic Excellence does not come easily so let's celebrate

[3:51:41] what we have today and I again would like to thank everybody that works in

[3:51:47] our district all of our community members our Administration for helping us achieve

[3:51:53] what I consider um Monumental um task of educating um our

[3:52:00] kiddos and doing it in just a phenomenal way um with that being said um I Heard a

[3:52:07] motion to approve Cost Containment A1 all those in favor

[3:52:12] say I I anyone opposed um the co um Cost

[3:52:18] Containment A1 is approved um we're now going to move on

[3:52:24] to our next

[3:52:29] sorry sure we're now going to move on to our next agenda item and we will be

[3:52:36] discussing director Woodard I believe you are up here again we are going going to

[3:52:42] discuss our people Transportation vehicle purpose

[3:52:47] Purchase thank you director gabler members of the school board um as you know the district owns and operates its

[3:52:53] own uh Pupil Transportation Service um particularly regular to and from Transportation um we have 64 different

[3:53:01] buses that we operate ourselves um 51 of those are what we call regular school buses a number of those are um older

[3:53:08] than 50 years of age some are in fact older than 20 years of age we aim for an average um age or a useful life of a

[3:53:14] school bus rather of about 12 years um so we have a number of buses that need to be replaced and need to be replaced

[3:53:20] um within the next um 1 to three years we have a regular cycle of replacement program that started um before my time

[3:53:27] here that we're looking to continue um and that involves purchasing buses on an every other year

[3:53:32] basis um so we'd like to go ahead and purchase five least return Vehicles these are buses that are no more than 3

[3:53:39] years old in great condition um so we'd like to purchase five of those um this current school year um since this action

[3:53:45] is coming so late it's possible that we won't actually receive those buses until after July 1 and so then those would

[3:53:51] become a budget item next school year however the funds that were um deriv from this school Year's enrollment would roll forward to next school year via the

[3:53:58] fund balance um the recommended action is before you thank you director wood

[3:54:04] Woodard I've somewhat regained my composure um are there any questions or comments about the um vehicle

[3:54:10] transportation vehicle per purchase all those in favor of a of

[3:54:16] approving the Pupil Transportation vehicle purpose I'm sorry purchase say I

[3:54:21] I um anyone opposed the Pupil Transportation vehicle purchase is

[3:54:26] approved um do I have a motion to approve policies 421 515 601 602 and

[3:54:33] 613 so moved is there a second second second but can I have a clarification

[3:54:40] absolutely is that this the right time to do that

[3:54:46] yes uh director gabler did did you get that who who um director

[3:54:54] gabler did a motion on the buses did anyone do a second I thought Elliot did did you I thought Elliot did

[3:55:00] too okay we can take should we revote um let's revote just to make sure we have it on on record um is there a motion to

[3:55:07] approve the Pupil Transportation vehicle purchase so moved is there a second

[3:55:15] second all those in favor of approving of approving the Pupil Transportation vehicle per purchase say I I anyone

[3:55:23] opposed the um Pupil Transportation vehicle purchases

[3:55:30] approved okay uh I just wanted to clarify for the board on policy 613

[3:55:35] graduation requirements when this came to our last meeting meeting for discussion there was um particular

[3:55:44] attention drawn to the incoming freshman

[3:55:49] class around their social studies requirements and their elective

[3:55:55] requirements and so Director D St Hubert has uh done a great job of crafting some

[3:56:01] language and if you look at the end of your policy not in the

[3:56:07] appendix my in the pendex sorry mine's not working right now just towards the end towards the end of the policy you'll

[3:56:13] see the clarified language so I just wanted to draw your attention to that because that was a change uh that was

[3:56:18] requested from the board at last month's meeting do board members have any uh

[3:56:26] questions or concerns about that specific

[3:56:35] update are there any questions or concerns about any of the other

[3:56:41] policies okay um all those in favor of approving policies 421 515 601 602 and

[3:56:48] 613 say I I anyone opposed policies 421 515 601 602 and 613 um are approved

[3:56:57] thank you very much um Dr Stanley do we have any leadership

[3:57:03] updates I'm really excited about tomorrow we are going down to the

[3:57:08] capital with every the discussion that we've had to really advocate for additional

[3:57:14] funding um to Advocate oh in just many different ways

[3:57:19] but we have our Lac platform um we have many many kids who are going down with

[3:57:25] us um the voice of kids is really powerful with our legislators that's

[3:57:30] exciting um hey our boys swimming dive

[3:57:35] just took home a championship and so we are super super excited about that

[3:57:42] um gosh our girls didn't even have time to talk about the girls winning a hockey championship before the boys okay

[3:57:50] they're just going to quarterfinals I know that so

[3:57:56] um yeah I think that those are probably the greatest but most importantly is

[3:58:02] advocacy advocacy at the capital call all legislators advocacy at

[3:58:08] the capital because um like I started out by saying 70% of amsd districts have

[3:58:14] a budget shortfall to uh totaling more than $300 million right now um and these are

[3:58:24] our neighbors so Advocate Advocate Advocate thank you Dr Stanley um before

[3:58:31] I motion to adjourn um Tonight is the last board meeting of director Mona sty

[3:58:38] and and I also heard she's here but she can hear she can hear I also heard that

[3:58:45] she likes to celebrate her birthday for multiple weeks so I would like to wish her happy birthday from the board and

[3:58:52] hopefully she could hear us clapping because I think she deserves a round of applause for her

[3:59:04] service um so thank you for your service here and we wish you well at the U um

[3:59:09] and go Gophers um do I have a motion to adjourn the meeting so moved is there a second

[3:59:16] second all those in favor of adjourning say I I anyone opposed um the meeting is

[3:59:22] adjourned thank

[3:59:37] you

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